"I just deleted my account with Flickr because they censored my protest-art (shown here). They claimed I was harassing and abusing other members by having it posted. My protest-art has the words "Summertownsun sucks". I put this artwork up in protest of Summertownsun complaining that i was infringing on their copyrighted work. They said I was posting images that they own. So flickr removed the images. But the images are actually in the public domain. So I protested Summertownsun's actions by creating a piece of artwork and posting it on Flickr. Then Flickr, in all its controlling, tightwad glory, removed that image too, and sent me an email which said, ""
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
Flickr seem to take stuff down if there is a protest, rather than review the situation and see whether it needs to be taken down or not. It seems like a case of the person at Flickr who's job it is to review this stuff is lazy, and isn't doing their job properly.
- Chris Nixon
For one moment there I thought you had deleted your account but then saw the quotes.
- Rob Brammeld
yeah, this didn't happen to me, but I posted the same image as dazzlecat so we'll see if they try and censor me next. http://thomashawk.com/2009...
- Thomas Hawk
Usual problem. If they are seen to use brains and check the content. Rather than just act in dmcas they risk safe harbour.
- Phill Price
Phill, even there the answer is simple, mark the photo private. Send the user a note. Give them an opportunity to counter, look at the evidence and make a decision. At least in the second instance though it seems like the photo is not the issue from Flickr's message but that they feel that saying a company sucks = harassment.
- Thomas Hawk
...does anyone know if there has been a specific change in TOS from before the infrastructure changes at yahoo? or are they just going buck wild?
- Carlos Ayala
You're right TH - it's something they've done before with unsafe stuff so I don't see why not
- Phill Price
Flickr is OUTTA CONTROL... damn! They really are managed by a bunch of "Yahoo!s"
- Susan Beebe
I hate Flickr mainly because you have to pay after a certain amount of pictures. It should be free like Photobucket!
- Steven
from twhirl
@phefland there is no more nice place -- Flickr is the nasty but virtually free... and if you pay, it won't help you avoid any nasty action on you :)
- Отборнейший бред
It might not be about the sucks comment, but possibly more the 'Rat Bastards' one. I still don't agree with the censoring, just not sure it is about the sucks comment.
- travispuk
maybe Travis. I guess I think that Flickr also ought to allow the phrase "rat bastard," and other similar terms.
- Thomas Hawk
My biggest gripe about their censoring is that it is pick and choose for them. They will gladly allow a popular member to break the TOS, but kill off others that might not be so popular... in their eyes. Sheharazade (??) is a perfect example. Saying that some of her pictures were not her own was a joke when they clearly allow more popular... read more 'public' members... to have photos by other photographers in their stream. Moving goal posts comes to mind.
- travispuk
I hope Flickr is listening... I just got a pro account, mainly because it works with everything (as mentioned above). Have folks tried Picassa?
- Jason (bossin cats)
I've been putting off buying a Flickr Pro account because for me I haven't really noticed the benefits of being on it. The more of this that goes on, the less I want to give them my money.
- Kenton
Does the Flickr policy mention image content standards?
- Douglas Hopkins
This is part of the problem Douglas, Flickr's standards are very vague and not applied uniformly. A while back Stewart Butterfield said that an image of mine ought to be deleted because posting screengrabs "was not what flickr was about." And yet at the time I pointed out that Cal Henderson's (who works for flickr) account was full of WOW screengrabs. Inconsistencies abound with Flickr's censorship. If they are going to enforce content policies they ought to be universal.
- Thomas Hawk
Similary a few weeks ago Flickr without warning deleted Shéhérazade's account because they said she had photos in her stream not taken by her (she was the model in the photos and said she had permission) yet Flickr's Community Manager Heather Champ has photos in her stream not taken by her. Double standards and uneven application of censorship sucks.
- Thomas Hawk
Interesting sidenote. CoolIris (PicLens) completely bypasses the sign in requirement for 'borderline' content.
- Charlie Anzman
what do you mean Charlie? Are you saying that you can see restricted 18+ content with CoolIris without logging into Flickr?
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas - my first thought was you deleted your account. /Restarting heart now.
- Russellreno
nah, I don't think I'd ever delete my own account and I'd be devastated if Flickr ever did.
- Thomas Hawk
It would be nice to have filters on FriendFeed. For instance, it would be nice to be able to hide any post containing the word "Obama" without having to hide someone's other stuff. Or the ability to hide any entry containing the word "ubuntu", etc.
Gary, you can turn off updates from friends of friends. If you see it, click on "Hide", "More hide options" and you can find the option there, as "Hide ALL stuff from friends-of-friends".
- Louis Gray
I just want the ability to create subsets of friends without doing it in an RSS reader.
- Ryan Brenizer
I'm big on filtering too. FF doesn't have as much noise as GReader, but filters would be nice.
- Mike Reynolds
Holy cow, yes. I would *love* to be able to filter out all the political posts...
- Matthew Freeman
from Alert Thingy
Actually, Friendfeed should highlight all entries containing 'ubuntu' imho. ;)
- roel
It would be nice to work the other way and bump up stories containing a keyword of your choice. Kind of like track, Would be useful to follow discussion on your company
- Jamie
Sounds like a perfect job for a Greasemonkey script.
- TranceMist
There is an urgent need to PRIORITIZE (recommend) new/unread Friendfeed items by personal relevance/importance. Is anyone working on this? In its current incarnation, Friendfeed is an unwieldy mess and time waster compared to Google Reader.
- Sean McBride
I think some of this was the idea behind "rooms" where someone could, say, create an "obama" room and everyone (how do they find out?) would join up and then only post obama stuff to that room and not in the general feed. Then it'd be up to you to join that room or not. Then it also filters accordingly, too.
- lilbyrdie
but don't things that you post in a room still show up to everyone following you?
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas, only if your followers also belong to that room.
- Mark Trapp
ahhhhh, ok, that's what I wasn't getting. That makes more sense now. Thanks Mark.
- Thomas Hawk
Or just use a client to apply the filters. Anyone know of one?
- Roberto Bonini
Step By Step Directions...1) Click 'Hide' on a Friend of a Friend entry. 2) Click 'See options for hiding other items like this'. 3) Select the option you want and select 'Hide Entries'.
- Charlie Owen
sounds like a job for the greasemonkey filter script...via feedalizr
- Ben Reierson
Personally I like the friend of a friend feature - gives more variety. Just so long as you have a limited number of friends and/or subscribe to Scoble and his 10000 friends.
- Roberto Bonini
FILTERSSSSz!! and tags so I can SORT and categorize my own feed stuff! Need to be able to organize the slew of stuff I see in my feed...grows daily! wow!
- Susan Beebe
TH, see my latest comment on my original FF post about this.
- Raoul Pop
thanks Raoul, just added the clarification from Bret Taylor as an update.
- Thomas Hawk
It would be nice if they let you selectively hide Flickr uploads vs. Flickr faves instead of someone's entire flickr account. I might be very interested in what someone uploads but not what they fave and vice versa.
- Thomas Hawk