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Everytime I start worrying about Google taking over the world I open up Google Buzz. What a mess. Hope there are major changes soon.
Dan Hsiao, Burcu Dogan, Dean "Karnatos" Michaud and 25 other people liked this
agreed very disappointed with buzz
- Thomas Power
Josh Wills from Google has said they are working on filters. A much needed feature.
- Kol Tregaskes
They should have never released it in my opinion. I hope I never have to switch from Twitter.
- Amar Shah
I think it's great that Google have released it and allowed some feedback between users and the Buzz Team, who are listening to users and working on solutions. Some major changes are needed but already they are paying attention - when some filters are introduced Buzz will be far more useful and will be a potent weapon in Google's arsenal.
- Chris Loft
Always the critic. :)
- Sean Oliver
Google Buzz remains poor. Poor software does not hold attention.
- Thomas Power
@CanDoCanBe I fixed the mess it caused in gmail by writing some filters. That actually helped me a lot by making gmail more productive.
Alexander Süßmann and Roberto Bonini liked this
@Scoble All your posts on Friendfeed are having the last comment entry as http://www.e-castig.com/index... - lazartibor. Looks like another spam service trying to gain from your popular content.
- Amar Shah
With Hours Before a Final Vote, Momentum for Reform Continues to Grow - http://my.barackobama.com/page...
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May the force be with you...
- Amar Shah
I love it when people with 699 followers, like @MWEB1, say that no one uses FriendFeed. Totally wrong.
David Cook, travispuk, Susan Beebe and 20 other people liked this
There are certainly a lot of people using FriendFeed but compared to Facebook as suspect it's 'low'. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
The funny thing is that I got a reaction here first.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Hehe, proves a point? ;-0
- Kol Tregaskes
Robert : Just ignore him. I think he is new chick in a town
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Just having some fun!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
:-)
- Kol Tregaskes
While I'm here, I liked to article about 'unproductive' email and Google Wave btw, Robert.
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks. I will answer your points in the morning.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert et al, Friendfeed sucks ass because none of my friends use it. Simple as that. Personally I love ff and think that its model is worth copying by fb and others. But I realized this week when non-nerds asked me to download Ping (which surprisingly I never heard of), that it doesn't matter how good the business model is or user exp is, but adoption rate matters. FB serves a great...
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- Ben Nash
50,000 nobodies here. Have a good one!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I've got over 1000 followers on Twitter, and I use FriendFeed. A lot. Even though only 230 or so subscribe to me on FF...
- Dennis Jernberg
50,000 who? huh? I don't know any of them? My point is you can't defend low adoption rates. You can't!
- Ben Nash
Ben have you tried inviting your friends and showing them why you like it?
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Of course I have, but non-nerds don't get it. I have more friends than nerds. :)
- Ben Nash
FYI I'm a nerd
- Ben Nash
I have to agree with Ben. I love Friendfeed but none of my friends; even after repeatedly trying to get them interested, consistently use FF. However, that hasn't stopped me from using FF as it is still a lot more flexible, resourceful than FB and Twitter.
- Amar Shah
I had only one friend on FriendFeed before I joined (and he doesn't use it much) now I have nearly 3,000 subscribers and a whole bunch of new friends. It takes time but you can make new friends here. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I've got a similar amount of followers on Twitter but I suspect a lot of them are bots and interaction with them is minute compared to FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
Different platform serves different purpose. Like FF for real time chat, facebook for friends etc. And different people like different platform. its just a matter of choice.
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
And I'm still confused about fb's purchase of ff. I sadly think that ff will go away before my non-nerd friends understand it.
- Ben Nash
oh and Scoble your belittling of someone with "only" 699 followers only shows how arrogant a nerd can become. See ya on another network someday. Hopefully I'll have enough followers to make you appreciate little old me.
- Ben Nash
Ben: it is arrogant for you two to say a service has no users when the opposite is true. You are NOT credible on this issue and if saying so is arrogant than fine.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Adoption rates! Simple as that. That's my credibility/argument. And I never said that there are no users on ff, just not my non-nerd friends. THEY ARE IMPORTANT. and I keep getting a ff server error message. huh is this the typical experience of a ff conversation? server errors
- Ben Nash
FF is only used by uber-geeks, simple as, "normobs" still vastly prefer sticking to Facebook and Twitter, most of my contacts are "real people", so FF gives me nothing extra.
- mark w webster
thanks mark
- Ben Nash
Mark: So why are you here ?
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Mark: you are wrong. Look at my 50,000 followers here. They are not all geeks.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
As I've already stated I love ff. BUT IT SUCKS that none of my non-nerd real world friends are on here
- Ben Nash
because i clicked your link, and hey presto, it brought me here :)
- mark w webster
BREAKING NEWS: Friendfeed is only used ny Robert Scoble. No one else matters.
- Ben Nash
Oh and how did I find you two? On Twitter which only has 40 million users out of seven billion people.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ben: you just called 50,000 people nobodies.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ben: and you call +me+ arrogant?!? You are something else.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Well Robert, you called 699 people nobodies first :)
- mark w webster
No I didn't liar.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I never belittled anyone
- Ben Nash
You just belittled 50,000 people!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
WOW
- Ben Nash
Wow right.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ah, my theory always proves rights, New chicks and here habit to contradict anything get attraction toward them. [BREAK NEW] Ben, It will not increase your twitter followers
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
try to remain civil Robert, you have a large following
- mark w webster
You just called them nobodies so leave civility out of this
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ah! Robert is right! :P Leave....
- Mohammad Abdurraafay
of course he is
- Ben Nash
Yes, Robert is right
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
he's infallable, bit like the pope :)
- mark w webster
I don't know why I argue with people who say untrue things and have no credibilty to boot.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
But it is more fun than changing diapers
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
+1 Robert
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
very true Robert, congrats on that personal note, and as you say, have a nice day.
- mark w webster
? does 50,000 followers = credibility
- Ben Nash
No. Not saying things that are wrong like what Mark said is how you gain credibility. Followers show up after that.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ben & Robert, neither of you called anyone nobodies, Ben just offhandedly trashed us by saying FF sucks ass and we're the only ones who use it. The service was still growing when the acquisition happened, and you have to remember all services start small, FF is 1/2-1/4 the size of Twitter 2 years in but that doesn't mean it couldn't have grown out. Twitter wasn't widely accepted originally either, it was all geeks and nerds.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I'm only saying I wish more friends used ff. I LOVE FF
- Ben Nash
I'd also disagree it's nerds only here, there are lots of non-tech types on FF, they make the place more interesting.
- Kol Tregaskes
And thanks to all this kerfuffle, my twitter followership is rocketing up, cheers Robert :)
- mark w webster
Jimminy: I have gotten 10% of my followers AFTER Facebook bought FriendFeed!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Mark: that happens anytime I link to anyone. Why? Spammers.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, sure I saw the surge also, but alot of people walked away from the community as well, whether it be partially or completely. One of those people was you, I'm glad to see you defending it of course.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
So Robert, does that mean: more followers = credibility = more spammers ?
- Ben Nash
Twitter has a LOT of spammers. Theydont show up here.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
so credibility is only achievable on ff?
- Ben Nash
I just started following Mark, I'm no spammer.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
I never walked away. I have been here every day.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ben: you have no credibilty here either.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
And i'm grateful Willem, also to the rest of you who contributed here :)
- mark w webster
Why does this remind me of a 'behind the scenes' view of some Miss election?
- Morgaine LeFaye
Willem of course some out of 100,000 will follow if I link to someone new.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, I know you didn't walk away, I'm kind of tired been since Friday, and it's 5:30, and it came out wrong. But you aren't here as often, though I have seen you coming back more often than right after the acquisition.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
I dont seek, or give credibility Robert, my comment was born out of MY experience, your's is different, i'm happy to respect that.
- mark w webster
If nothing else, FF is also a decent twitter client ;)
- Alexandros Georgiadis
HAHAHAHAHA, what did i do? this is crazy, I only pointed out that I have no non-nerd friends on ff and I wish that wasn't the case. I also stated that you are arrogant for equating followers with credibility. I didn't ask for a credibility rating.
- Ben Nash
Ben: when you say there aren't users here or that I am the only one it not only is wrong but it demonstrates you just don't know what you are talking about.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Ben: there is a reason I have lots of friends. I tend to be arrogantly right.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
And sorry numbers of followers DOES confir credibilty when discussing usage patterns.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
WOW dude, wow. you are so arrogant. Unbelievable really. And you are not getting my very simple point? Keep digging your grave with your high and mighty jabs, you'll need a deep one for that ego.
- Ben Nash
Robert: Try linking to me @wim66 I'd like to see how many followers that would bring me and how many spammers.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
kinda shot yourself in the foot there Robert, what i write on various forums and sites i control gets read by a million members every day, if you want to play the numbers game.
- mark w webster
And to the rest of the world, please keep in mind that even Glen Beck has more that 50,000 fans. And that doesn't mean he's credible.
- Ben Nash
ROBERT = SPAM i guess
- Ben Nash
I could get a lot of followers by following a lot of people myself. Does that make me more credible?
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Mark: I don't believe your numbers. If you had them they would follow you to Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- Ben Nash
I think Robert is drunk at 2:37am
- Ben Nash
I wish.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Changed three diapers since this thread started.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I dont push social media anywhere i go, in the UK were a bit behind you in that respect, it's true.
- mark w webster
And what about your children's? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Mark: another thing you got wrong. UK is home to some of the best Twitter developers and biggest Twitter community. The guy who built TweetDeck is from UK.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
See this is how you earn credibility: by know what you are talking about.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Twitter's CEO told me that London has a larger usage base than SF.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I can believe that.
- Kol Tregaskes
SF population is only 800k
- Ben Nash
Ben: percentage wise too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
But hen define London. Central or Greater London?
- Kol Tregaskes
And one of Twitter's investors comes from UK too.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, seriously stop the fights. Mark only said that UK was "behind" on the social media front. I think most of the world will agree on that. Your 50,000 person following, and CEO talks don't change a thing.
- Ben Nash
As for ego it takes a huge ego to tell someone else their ego is out of control so welcome to the club.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Of course your right Robert, but in all these matters were always a few steps behind you guys, well, i gotta go to Asda (Wallmart) so i'll bid you guy's goodnight :)
- mark w webster
Seeya!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, you started it with your belittling of 699 followers, good night
- Ben Nash
And I'm quite happy with my 283 followers. Very happy. 50,000 mean nothing to me.
- Ben Nash
Ben: no you are wrong again. This is really a pattern with you.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
k
- Ben Nash
Mark started this by calling 50,000 followers "miniscule." since he only has 700 that is wrong.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
k
- Ben Nash
The End. Goodnite ladies (Ben and mark)
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
My challenge to anyone who says followers don't mean anything: delete your account then.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Told ya Robert they are just new chick in a town, just craving for attention
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
You'd hope that more followers means more interaction so that can't be meaningless. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Sunny: yeah.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I'm not new to ff or twitter, but increasing followers is not my goal. It doesn't have to be.
- Ben Nash
Ben: I am going to block you so you won't have another follower. Geesh.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
k
- Ben Nash
like i said, not a goal
- Ben Nash
For a guy who tries to keep the world safe from my ego you sure talk a lot.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
? huh ?
- Ben Nash
Surely any social network is as good as what you make it. If your friends are not on it you are not influential enough. I am not influential enough but that is my fault.
- Matt G
Exactly. You are good at dishing it out but bad at looking in the mirror.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Matt: you're my friend and I follow you.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Robert: Some wise man once said: "You are defined by the people you follow, not the other way around" :)
- Jemm
Robert, just go back and read my original reply. I think my points still stand. Good night everyone.
- Ben Nash
Thanks Robert. :)
- Matt G
Ben and your original reply DID NOT demonstrate an even basic understanding of why Mark was wrong. We weren't talking about your friends. Thanks for playing.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Jemm: I follow you so that guy must have been right!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
:-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
@Robert: He usually is ;)
- Jemm
as compared to twitter...it should have been an upgrade of twitter but people love twitter for it's simplicity
- testbeta
The main point: Friendfeed is still flatlining on Compete.com, as is Feedly. Sometimes the best software out there is just too far ahead of its time for the unwashed masses to appreciate.
- Sean McBride
(Sean. feedly is actually growing fine. The reason you are not seeing that growth on compete.com is that feedly is an extension and all the pages are produced in real-time directly from the extension).
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Maybe it depends on what kind of friends you desire. Are your friends sheep who only use something after the fad hits the media? Or are they intelligent folks who prefer to communicate with other thinkers?
- Gail Gardner
Edwin -- thanks for the correction.
- Sean McBride
RT @vishiiii Thackery should also talk to TOI about changing Bombay Times to Mumbai Times...sab ko barabar insaaf milni chaiye
Bombay High Court to Mumbai High Court, Bombay Scottish International School to Mumbai Scottish International School, Bombay Hospital to Mumbai Hospital and on and on and on....
- Amar Shah
I've decided what to do for my next 30 day challenge. It's a geeky one, but I'm super-excited. :)
Martin Rix (Mrrix32), Vadim Spivak, Amar Shah and 5 other people liked this
What is it?
- Paul Buchheit
Don't use your mouse for 30 days? Rely on keyboard shortcuts alone? That would be a cool learning experience!
- Tony Ruscoe
I'm going to shoot for no Microsoft operating systems for 30 days. My laptop is normally WinXP and my main home computer is WinXP (with an Ubuntu machine as sidekick), so it will be a switch.
- Matt Cutts
Matt, that's evil considering Win7 is launching this month. LOL
- Chris Arkwright
or BeOS!
- imabonehead
Does it include no Microsoft Office programs usage for those 30 days, as well?
- Amar Shah
How I read Tweets http://m.kyte.tv/ch...
Morten Blaabjerg, Robert G. Male, Chris Spizzirri and 87 other people liked this
Brilliant. I'm filtering/searching twitter messages through notify.me
- Orli Yakuel
This is a great kyte cast. Is that the right word for it? I'm always trying to figure out the best way to utilize these social sites to proper filter out the garbage for the nuggets.
- Daniel Norton
To learn how to use Friendfeed effectively, where do you suggest starting? Watching your video here and interested in leveraging its capabilities so would like to know a good way to get my feet wet here.
- Lyn Graft
Excellent live video...thanks!
- Keith Neisler
You should do a similar one on just Friendfeed, try to get more people over here :)
- Simon Wicks
Robert that was great. Thanks for doing the video! Can you do one on Friendfeed like Simon asked? I think that would be very helpful! :)
- Daynah
Thanks for sharing - good segment. Now I just need more time in the day! Can you do any split screen interviews like the Peter Himmelman show a few weeks ago?
- Lyn Graft
That was awesome live video you did.
- Amar Shah
Thanks for the live video! Inspiring me to spend more time working out FriendFeed.
- Jalada
Lyn: I did a separate video on how to use friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Robert Scoble
I like tweetdeck a lot but I can't live without navigation w/keyboard and the two-fingers horiz scroll so they really need to get this for me to definitely switch!
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from twhirl
I missed the Friendfeed one, thanks for the link again Robert
- Simon Wicks
Check out the Unofficial Guides to FriendFeed included in the post at http://www.growmap.com/friendf....
- Gail Gardner
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It was really helpful
- Pelle Sjoqvist
from twhirl
Excellent video Robert.
- Jim Connolly
I second the request for a friendfeed video as well. Oh, and good video Robert
- Peter Efland
Thanks Robert. I always learn something about using FriendFeed or Twitter more effectively from you.
- Tom Landini
I'm behind a terribly unstable and slow 2G connection. Anyone care to summarize the video?
- Jan Ignatius
brilliant
- Thomas Power
This is really helpful. Sco. I like the "media snack" term. And "attention thief." Would like to see your GTD vid when you do it. And less so your google reader one. Search.twiiter.com. And generally how you drink valuable memes from the firehose is helpful. Is there a "channel" of these vids from you? "Feedly.com" I couldn't parse the verbal- google grabbed it based on sound.
- moon_shadow70
I'm finding kyte interface a bit annoying cause I paused and walked away and can't just reload to where I was!!!! (is it me?) Arg, I may redo the first 15+ minutes.
- moon_shadow70
It would be helpful to have your "must follow" list in non-verbal format that was too fast.And Kyte's rewind is way too inexact to keep rewinding it. Thanks. :-)
- moon_shadow70
Has this changed in recent times? I heard on the gilmore gang that 90% of your friends are on FF, so is twitter still as prominent?
- Chris Lloyd
Chris Twitter is becoming less important.
- Robert Scoble
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Cathy http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Micah
Try Windows Search 4.0. Seems pretty good - http://www.microsoft.com/windows...
- Amar Shah
Thanks :)
- PaperDoll
Search in tinyapps.org
- TrafficBug
Here is a 26 page forum thread that discusses your exact question: http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums...
- April
Skittles has changed its entire homepage to a Twitter search - brave! http://skittles.com/ #skittles
Daniel Rowley, Perfect Porridge, Chris Brakebill and 18 other people liked this
Wow, indeed very brave. Will others follow?
- Samuel Driessen
but what does it do for you? You gonna buy skittles cause they're linked up with twit? But thanks, Scoble for sharing :)
- chaz2b
incredibly brave of them!
- Alexander Kucera
I don't understand how this is useful to anyone? Seeing twitter messages for "Skittles" gets boring soon and that floating navigation menu over the twitter UI is quite annoying and distracting. First thing I wanted to do on that page is kill that floating window but it can't be done.
- Amar Shah
Amar, they also link to YouTube, Flickr and Wikipedia on their subpages. It's a great way to show people what Skittles is all about without big PR. It only shows what is out there concerning Skittles. I think that's a great way to use external content for self-promotion. (The only thing is the legality of it all. Does anyone have an opinion on this?)
- Alexander Kucera
econsultancy.com did a similar thing for a day and gained 1000's of new followers for the econsultancy twitter account.
- Mark Edmondson
Bold, maybe this sort of thing is part of the business model twitter had in mind?
- Chris Brakebill
List of things that don't make much sense. Would like to hear your opinion on this here.
#1 US giving aid in millions to countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan when it herself is in dire economic situation. Billions of dollars of debt and in midst of worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.
- Amar Shah
#2 “Why call national level American Football, NBA, and Baseball team winners as world champions, when all those games involve no international teams”
- Amar Shah
# 3 How does giving money to people who are already in debt to spend more makes financial and logical sense? If something doesn't make sense financially at micro level then how does it tend to be the right thing to do at macro level?
- Amar Shah
#4 Why do so many successful companies expect that throwing millions of dollars on marketing activities such as advertising can save a poor quality product and that it can change the customer impression of the product? Product quality should always speak for itself.
- Amar Shah
#5 Why would Firefox and IE NOT release their browsers with Ad Blocker set as default to make the browsing experience better (without those annoying ads)?
- Amar Shah
How Gmail destroyed Outlook. - By Farhad Manjoo - Slate Magazine - http://www.slate.com/id...
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"As of this week, Gmail has reached perfection." Now maybe they can take it out of Beta :)
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
I thought Beta was part of the product name, Paul. :-)
- Louis Gray
That's the only logical explanation.
- Paul Buchheit
No, Gmail's not in beta. Google is. That's why the logo clearly reads "Gmail(TM) by Google BETA"
- Kevin Fox
Boo. :)
- Randy Holloway
from twhirl
We have Google Apps at work, but my boss is a Microsoft guru and LOVES Outlook. I LOVE Gmail, so I've resisted most of his attempts to get me to pop Gmail down to Outlook. It's a battle every day. :)
- Jandy
I use the Mail.app in Mac, but everything stays on the server.
- Aaron Hood
Mail.app <3
- "Joey"
Not sure I understand this debate. I use Mail.app to access my Google hosted mail via IMAP. Best of both worlds and Google in no way "destroys" my use of Mail.app. I presume Outlook could do the same.
- Nick in Manila
I love Gmail, but they still need better integration with other apps/platforms. For example, Google contacts needs to sync directly (and for free) with iPhone/iTunes, salesforce.com, etc.
- Peter Ghosh
@Kevin - They're going to rename the company to Google BETA, Inc soon? ;)
- Tyson Key
Sorry, I meant Google Calendar, not contacts . . .
- Peter Ghosh
Gmail is a great consumer webmail, but in no way "destroys" Outlook. How does Gmail allow me to book conference rooms, or recall errant emails, or follow SOX retention policies? Both have their place and are leaders in their own area, but one does not supplant the other.
- Ryan
Great writeup on Gmail.
- Mike Reynolds
gold master gmail!
- MG Siegler
one huge reason why Microsoft HATES Google, outlook is just one of the major pay for software offerings by MS that are being eroded in market share due to Google
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
Comparing GMail to Outlook is like comparing Apples to Fruit Salad. :) They're not the same, even if they overlap on a few features.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
I would guess that Gmail is likely destroying Hotmail -- Outlook not so much. Still reason for Microsoft to be pissed at Google though.
- Brian Sullivan
@psghosh, GCalendar has started syncing with iCal for some time now - check google's help for this: http://www.google.com/support...
- Peter Fedin
Creative Destruction - good news for the public!
- GlennIsaac
If you're not using Exchange, sure, gmail's a killer.
- Mr. Gunn
Well done article.
- Micah
I turned my tom(at)thomashawk.com email address over to gmail and I have to say that the reduction in spam is nothing short of remarkable. Every now and then I check the spam file and feel bad because real email gets trapped in there, but by and large it's awesome.
- Thomas Hawk
Feels like I'm preaching to the choir here but have been using gmail in one form or another since almost the beginning. After spending years using mac mail to consolidate accounts went full gmail a few months ago because it just works better and the extras are great. Don't see how anybody can top it. The only other one I've tried which shows some potential is zenbe.com.
- Mike Elliott
Agreed
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Gmail rocks! Once you start using it there's no going back. Two niggles though: Multiple signatures and blind group mailings, please!
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
Gmail seems great at first - but recently, I have seen several messages disappear from my Inbox while I watch. Sometimes they reappear next time I check - sometimes not. Searching for reports of Gmail eating messages turns up a disturbingly high number of hits. Destroys Outlook? Maybe. Destroys messages? Yes. Not good enough, even for a free service! What use is 7 Gb of space - when it isn't 7 Gb of *reliable* space?
- James
from twhirl
so gmail finally has complete windows compatible keyboard macros, syncs my to my mobile phones, I can do my mailings with them, has an integrated crm system, and more? great. </sarcasm> (and I say this as an avid gmail user ...)
- Nicole Simon
Switched to Gmail from Outlook and never looked back.
- Roberto Bonini
didn't Bucheit invent Gmail according to Louis G? The opening shot in the downfall of Microsoft...?
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
He was on the team, yes - and did the prototype for the Gmail Ads, i belive. Don't be modest Paul.
- Roberto Bonini
As much as I love gmail (I've got several accounts), I couldn't use it an office environment yet. Want to covert an email to an appointment or task just drag it to the calendar or task list in Outlook. Outlook also has search folders so I can set up folders for emails I got today. I know there are GreaseMonkey extensions to support search folders but Gmail's date searching is just crummy.
- Andy Davies
I wish people would stop killing the aps I use...I hate that.
- John D Reasor
Dukeswharf: POP/IMAP> Thunderbird> Enigmail (PGP) = offline+security+no ads (but no "new" features)
- coldbrew
Nice. I still have more trust in self-administered PKI; is that naive? Are they using asymmetric or symmetric crypto?
- coldbrew
Outlook destroyed Outlook the way MS destroys it's other products (and I have been an Outlook fan since '97): it became bloated and slow.
- Peter Ghosh
I'll still use thunderbird since I have to centralize many different mail accounts (and want them to be clearly separated), but I must admit that Gmail made a good point here :-)
- stanjourdan
Jourdan: Do you use PGP? We should have a key-signing party room on FF. Maybe I'll make one now...
- coldbrew
Gmail is far from destroying Outlook. I still have to use Outlook for plenty of things. It is just a different tool. Feature by feature Google is way way behind Outlook.
- Patrick Allmond
Gmail is the small business solution. Major corporations are way too private to be communicating outside the Outlook box. Yet Outlook has been shown in the past to have vulnerabilities. Security is less of an issue with smaller databases. Suits prefer the worn path, the grey rut.
- Phil Boiarski
Sorry, I meant gmail's encryption. I don't think it has any PKI option. does it?
- coldbrew
I don't understand that argument, Mark. By the same logic, Google couldn't be anything more than a niche search provider because nobody would trust a search engine that everyone uses.
- Kevin Fox
"When Outlook fails on one computer, only one computer and one user is affected." Right, because a software vulnerability in Outlook is programmed and rolled out on a per customer basis.
- virtually
There's just no way I'll use email software that uses the one-message-per-row paradigm again. The productivity gains from Conversations are just enormous.
- jakebf
@mark: that's entirely true, if kind of a moot point based on the probability. If visa went down tomorrow, nobody would be able to pay for much of anything. If Comcast went down, most of us would have no internet connection. It's clearly your prerogative to run all your own software infrastructure, but I'd rather have the convenience of web based software.
- Joel Webber
A lot of commentators are discussing chalk and cheese. Outlook is an email CLIENT / Application. GMail is another Client / Application. How you use each one is entirely up to each user. Most non-technical people think of Gmail as something they access via their browsers, whereas Outlook is a Microsoft Application that runs on their PC. Not entirely true. you can access GMail servers using any client (Outlook/Thunderbird).
- Chris Wright
from twhirl
Gmail+Gcal is an Outlook killer, no doubt about it. The day Gcal started sending SMS to my mobile with the reminders it also killed my old Palm Treo.
- Jordi Soler
What Gmail does is make using Email for the normal non techie person easy. The reality is most home users do not use the power of Ouitlook. The issue with Gmail is good lick syncing a pda or smart phone to it it works well for the calendar but not for contacts. Also Gmail does not give you an e asy way to store messages in tact offliine. Outlook has a PST file for offline storage and backup.
- Rob Cairns
As has been touched on in this thread. Gmail and Outlook are largely orthogonal. Outlook is a client. Gmail is a mail provider with a client. You can use Outlook with Gmail or another mail provider, but either way if that provider goes belly-up you're going to stop getting your mail for a bit. If you're concerned about your mail archives being hosted with someone else, then you should keep a local copy using a POP client, no matter what mail provider you happen to put your trust in.
- Kevin Fox
I went from using internal gmail at google to using Outlook at my new job, and while I think there are good things and bad things about the two platforms, I miss the speed and portability of gmail, but I like some the task/calendar features in Outlook. If I had my druthers, I'd use gmail.
- Ginger Makela Riker
"Gmail+Gcal is an Outlook killer, no doubt about it." Afraid not, Jordi, because GMail Contacts is a big ol' steaming cup of FAIL. When Google gets their act together on Contacts, then Outlook will be threatened.
- John Craft
Outlook is a platform for working with "items"... countless times I have dropped into the built-in macro language to do things with my email, tasks, appointments, contacts, etc., that I could never do with a webmail application like Gmail. I wish I could stop using it, because I'll admit it's a hog on resources, but there is no alternative that will do EXACTLY what I want to do like Outlook will with my custom scripts in it. :)
- Kenneth LeFebvre
GMail via a web browser is just using IMAP to access/control the mail on the mail server. You can set up Outlook/Thunderbird to access GMail using IMAP. It would be more accurate to say that using the GMail web interface has reduced the number of people using other client applications for accessing their email.
- Chris Wright
Why are people comparing apples with oranges here? Client vs service? Thunderbird may beat Outlook, but not Gmail itself. I do recognize the web client is good, but is not nearly as flexible as a standalone. Plus, as has been mentioned by others, I need multiple account processing. Gmail fails at this. Gmail will remain my service of choice in the end. Tbird at home, Outlook at work.
- Vince DeGeorge
@Vince, GMail does support multiple accounts, see http://mail.google.com/support...
- Shakeel Mahate
@Enver: One example is automatically filling out my weekly timesheet from my calendar. Another example is automatically searching our company's online directory to grab mugshots for all my contacts, so I have their pictures to help me remember who's who... :) This is why I say Outlook is a *platform*. It seems to me that it would be an extraordinary amount of work to use something like Greasemonkey to actually add significant new functionality into Gmail, rather than just enhancing the user experience.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
BTW, I'm not knocking Gmail. I actually use it to host my own email domain... I'm just making the case that it's not an apples-to-apples comparison to put Gmail and Outlook in the same category.
- Kenneth LeFebvre
Hotmail offline access has been available for over a year now with Windows Live Mail client. Can't make out why the same feature for Gmail is that exciting. They are not the first one to enable this feature. Zoho and Hotmail has been having these for a long time.
- Amar Shah
Gmail rocks... hate when some old relatives still write to my hotmail and I gotta go in there to get it, just because microsoft won't allow automatic forward to gmail.
- Peter Efland
I'm getting very annoyed by my iPhone. The browser crashes all the time, it drops calls a lot, and the SMS "app" takes 5 seconds to launch. I really hope the Palm Pre is good. Any news on when it will be out?
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Have you considered the G1?
- imabonehead
Did the 2.2.1 update not help? Let's hope the Pre isn't killed by Apple's legal dept....
- Jonathon
wow 5 sec to launch SMS?! hmm that's not good. Sometimes I have had to remove the last app / update on my iPhone when it bugs out, perform a hard reboot (hold down home key /power key together) then reboot... all is GOOD. I've had to do this about 3-4 times. Some apps just never load right...sucks - affects iPhone too much.
- Susan Beebe
did you load the latest v2.2 firmware? supposed to fix both browser crashing and some known dropped call problems.
- Tim Connors
I already rebooted my iPhone once today because the phone part stopped working entirely. I think the sms app is so slow because I have a lot of messages, and of course there's no way to "bulk delete" them (that I know of, at least). I'm not sure what version I have. The last 2.2 update changed Safari from crashing on every 3rd page to crashing on every 10th page, which was a big improvement.
- Paul Buchheit
It's so loud and so annoying and it never wears a shirt! ;)
- April Buchheit
Paul, the G1 browser hasn't crashed for me yet, and I've had the phone for about 3 months :)
- Tudor Bosman
That's amazing Tudor. I wonder why Apple can't fix Safari? Is it not the same codebase? (webkit) Does the G1 work on AT&T, or would I have to switch to t-mobile to try it?
- Paul Buchheit
Echo you Paul. Dropped calls - iPhone is better when not in 3G mode, which kills the speed benefit. Browser crash - yup, drives me insane, happens too often. But I'll stick with it, still digging it a lot for its other features.
- Hutch Carpenter
That's because AT&Ts 3G really isn't, and where it is, isn't quite reliable. There's a reason Verizon and AT&T were both ordered to stop saying they had the biggest and/or fasted 3G system. That honor goes to Sprint.
- Anika
I can't load more than 8 pages in Safari - period....instant FAIL. must close pages first...lame
- Susan Beebe
Try turning off 3G - I have found that the EDGE mode causes much fewer crashes and you even get much better battery life.
- Arvind Sundararajan
Thanks Arvind. I'm installing 2.2.1 now (I didn't usually sync so I didn't know about the latest update). If I'm still having problems, I'll try turning off 3G and see if that helps.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul, the G1 works fine on AT&T, but you don't get 3G (something about frequency bands). You can totally swap a SIM to give it a whirl. I won't claim it's an irritation-free experience, but I also have not seen the browser crash.
- ⓞnor
Maybe I should try that ⓞnor. Any Googlers out there have a spare Christmas gift that I could borrow for a while?
- Paul Buchheit
AGREED. And the reception is piss poor. Come on Apple!
- Alex Wilhelm
AT&T dropped my calls pretty often in the past year or two, and I had a simple non-smart phone. G1 on T-Mobile has been a better experience so far (3 months in).
- Seth
FWIW, the SMS app loads a lot slower when you have tons of SMSes in it. Sadly there *still* doesn't seem to be a way to batch-delete SMS messages. Ugh.
- Kevin Fox
I have no problems with my G1 and t-mobile service. Have it for 3 months also.
- imabonehead
My iPhone stop responding at random times. It gets in a hang state for a few minutes. Sometimes putting the phone charges gets it out from the hang state. Very weird. A lot of times even trying to do a force shut down wouldn't work. I hate it when that happens but I still don't see myself going with any other phone, because when it works, it's simply awesome and there is nothing close to it.
- Amar Shah
Paul: My G1 is SIM-locked so I have to use T-Mobile. You can play with my phone at work tomorrow (there's good coverage in the office, except in the bathrooms :) ) to see if you'd like it. Also, as you witnessed on Sunday night, Jeanette's phone fell on the sidewalk and she stepped on it afterwards, and it still works great (with only minor cosmetic damage).
- Tudor Bosman
Jailbreak, get the MySMS app; it still takes 5 secs to open (~150 messages), but it stays open in the background and you can bulk delete. Also, why does anyone need to open more than 4 safari pages? It's a small gadget with limited memory.
- Mohamed J
I think that, aside from the SUPER annoying browser crashes, that most of the problems are due to AT&T's unbelievably shifty network. I have no doubt they're doing things that cause the iPhone to get all confused and hang.
- jakebf
Like Paul, I can't understand. I have dozens of friends with none of these problems. Maybe ATT is bad in your area. My iPhone never crashes. I get a little wary of such anecdotes but good luck with the Pre (if it makes it.) or the G1. I'd go to my Apple store and raise a fuss. They may be able to help.
- Phil Boiarski
the same sh*t with my iphone. sometimes I want to throw it at wall
- Dmitry Skavish
My iPhone runs like a swizz, well, phone. I never have any problems (apart from the browser, which 2.2.1 seems to have improived). Stick with it. Software can always be improved.
- Roberto Bonini
@paul - I'll loan you an unlocked G1 for a few weeks next time i see you. Would be interested in your thoughts on android after using it for a stretch.
- DeWitt Clinton
I love my iPhone. My wife loves her iPhone. I guess we are the family of weirdos :)
- andrei_c
Paul - i have never deleted a message in three months. i keep every message i get. SMS works fine
- Roberto Bonini
for me, the latest software update helped a lot. my biggest gripe is that my iphone 3g has miserable coverage along the 101 unless i turn off 3g. other gripe - if you have a lot of contacts, composing an sms or email takes forever as it scans your list looking for matching recipients.
- Charles Hudson
the latest update is supposed to help with browser crashes...so far so good here, but then again, I haven't yet tried the ever-crashing greader yet
- Sarah Perez
When I post in 2 different messages on 2 different topics into a room then they are bundled together, which makes it hard to read those as 2 separate topics. They should be separated from each other?
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This is when I have entered 2 different posts around the same time.
- Amar Shah
Amar, so are these posts completely different or do they have a link which is the same? Normally a different post is separately but if FF finds something similar, normally the link, then it hides the oldest one in related entries. Other people might see this find if they are not subscribed to the room (and thus might not one of your posts)?
- Kol Tregaskes
Yes, these are my 2 posts that were completely different ones and both did not have a link in them. It just happen to be posted in a time frame close to each other. However, they were 2 distinct posts. Let me see if I can attach a screenshot.
- Amar Shah
This usually happens if you have several posts from the same service in a close time span that haven't been liked or comment. Happens a lot to GReader items, for instance. Three will show and there will be a link "6 more" or whatever.
- FFing Enigma
1. Ensure that they at least have 12th grade education. Bachelors level will be ideal.
- Amar Shah
2. Bring in transparency in the decision making process around various issues they are dealing with as representatives of common janta
- Amar Shah
3. When they are up for re-election, their achievements and lowlights from their previous terms should be broadcast for general public awareness
- Amar Shah
Any others?
- Amar Shah
I just recorded my first ScreenToaster screencast, you guys! Easily, my favorite Web App of the year. Watch here: http://www.screentoaster.com/watch...
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You have the cutest voice ever! Mine is all dudish. =(
- Shevonne
Record one, Shevonne!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
After hearing your cute voice?......ummmm ok....
- Shevonne
you do have a very cute voice, it has to be said
- Zee.
ScreenToaster RULES, seriously. (thanks, you guys... Shevonne - who cares, just do it!)
- Mona Nomura
from IM
just brilliant!
- Niki Costantini
And it's FREE!!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
That's pretty cool.
- Lindsay
Nice - wonder if there are any iPhone screencasting apps in the works ...
- Patrick Jordan
All I want is Qik
- Mona Nomura
from IM
How long did it take you to get the account from ScreenToaster after requesting an account? It seems invite-only at this point. Can't wait to try it out.
- Amar Shah
Like... five minutes. :) *edit, I lied. It was more like 30.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Oh Wow....Looks like you have to be popular for SreenToaster to approve the account right away :-)
- Amar Shah
Nono, it was the timing. I signed up around 10am est. :)
- Mona Nomura
hey Mona how ya doing? How was breakfast..have anything nice?
- Jason
I will do it after I take the kids rollerblading.
- Shevonne
Hello Jason, I am well. I am super busy researching the history of bacon.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Just found this on Youbedotube, hope this helps towards this quest http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
- Jason
is your voice???
- George Borges
I registered to receive a beta invite.
- Shevonne
You should get it soon - unless they're super busy. WOOHOO!
- Mona Nomura
I hope mine comes soon, it's just what I need for a client demo
- Sally Church
Thanks for the heads up. I'm signing up for Screentoaster beta account.
- Alan Le
Indeed: http://www.screentoaster.com/watch... and http://img.skitch.com/2008123... They're working on YouTube and other site pushing too!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Whoa that's really awesome! :D Signing up for the beta now!
- Brandon
Mona, hey did you do yours on a Mac or Windows?
- Sally Church
I'm a Mac but it's Windows, Mac, and Linux compatible.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
Just tried it. ScreenToaster is great. So easy to use.
- Richard Crocker
Get that voice on TV somehow. I think I could use that for work too.... I like. How did you find out about it?
- Amani
very cool!
- andy brudtkuhl
And the best part is, it's free! A content mining tutorial up, in case you want to know where I find my stuff - I haven't been posting my funny pictures and such since other people have taken over that genre. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Thank you for putting up the ScreenToaster screencast Mona and you do have a nice voice.
- Robert Miller
What do you mean "a content mining tutorial up"?
- Amani
Thanks Robert :) Amani - people ask me all the time where I find my 'stuff', so I did a screencast of how I find things to post :)
- Mona Nomura
from IM
I wanted to try it tonight, but it was super slow :( I think word is spreading
- Bwana ☠
Mona, how do we find your content mining tutorial -- I did not see it on the side bar of this screencast and figured I would ask. :)
- Robert Miller
Wow, that´s a great service!
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
OK, I will relook at it and see if it makes even more sense. Good work.
- Amani
Indian real estate buyers tempted by dream home opportunity - http://www.offplanpropertyexchange.com/news...
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"The survey also showed how much people expect to spend on a home, with about 52 per cent saying they could spend between Rs 10 and 30 lakh."
- ravi karandeekar
from Bookmarklet
The survey doesn't seem to include Pune residents. What do you think on where do Pune real estate buyers stand on this?
- Amar Shah
Internet Explorer 8 is 6,000x better than IE6, but it still bugs me. Google Chrome is the future. Here's why:
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1. Google Chrome is way faster.
- Robert Scoble
2. Google Chrome is a rethink. IE8 is a bug fix.
- Robert Scoble
3. Google Chrome has one box. IE 8 has two.
- Robert Scoble
4. Google Chrome works better with Google Reader and other AJAX sites.
- Robert Scoble
5. IE8 has too many menus and icons. Gives a real cluttered feel.
- Robert Scoble
IE's been a glorified bug fix since MS relabeled it from Mosaic, Robert - no secret there. :) I'm loving Chrome.
- teleken
WebKit is a really good rendering engine. I've always secretly wished IE8 would use WebKit as their rendering engine and scrap IE rendering, and somehow incorporate ActiveX and all of the IE features into it, since WebKit is open-source, not tied to a specific competitor (as opposed to Gecko and Firefox) and is fast and stable. – Have to agree about Google Chrome as well. It's a great browser. As much as I love Safari, I wish Chrome would come to Mac sooner :)
- Mark Bao
6. Google Chrome's search integration is magic. Start typing something and it figures out what you want. IE8 waits for you to finish, then brings up a boring web page.
- Robert Scoble
Any others?
- Robert Scoble
When it finally works on a Mac, perhaps I'll believe you ;)
- Jeff
If it didn't bug someone it wouldn't still be Internet Explorer.
- Josh Sharp
Google Chrome and FLASH don't get along!
- paul mooney
Now I just wish Chrome worked better with Flash, or Flash worked better with Chrome.
- Dennis Jackson
Google Chrome is focused on internet. IE seems to mix to much other junk in
- Mike Scott
By the way, I wrote this whole item in IE8 running on Windows 7. If you are still going to use IE, please do get IE8. It is much better than previous versions.
- Robert Scoble
Not a big fan of IE or Chrome... I'll stick with FireFox.
- Steven Sanders
Google Chrome is slick...but I still like the simplicity of FireFox.
- Charlie Flowers
I love Google Chrome, I just wish the addon's started rolling out.
- Michael Fidler
Because the browser is a commodity... Connecting (correction - Deep Integration) with Google's cloud based services is the secret sauce.
- Brian Roy
Charlie: simplicity of Firefox? You've gotta be kidding, right? I love Firefox because of its complexity! (Plugins keep me there a lot of the time).
- Robert Scoble
I still need to play with Chrome in order to form an educated opinion. I'm just too hung up on Firefox still. :P
- Korey
Timely thread. I literally installed Google Chrome on my home computer within the last half hour (hey, I'm slow at these things - I'm not trendy). Just poking around a bit now, liking the speed. StumbleUpon support is an issue, but I'm reading up on it and other stuff. Just read Sarah Perez's post on privacy.
- Ontario Emperor
I h ave never been a fan of ActiveX. The fact that several websites still rely on it versus better technologies irks me and I refuse to use them.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Paul: Google Chrome gets along fine with Flash here. What are you experiencing?
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, I have to admit, IE8 is a pretty good browser, relatively speaking (relative to IE7 and IE6.) Renders my pages a ton better than previous versions.
- Mark Bao
Flash slows down Chrome for me pretty significantly, sometimes to where it's not even usable. Maybe it's just my computer.
- Dennis Jackson
How is IE6 a basis for comparison to anything anymore? Totally agree about Chrome.
- Bob Starr
loved chrome until I found out it wasn't compatible with my Roboform. I'm lazy and not too security conscious.
- BEX
Amen on the 'IE mixing other junk in' thought. I hate typing a hostname into it & it tries to hit a UNC or whatever the heck it's doing...
- Steven Byrnes
Chrome has a whole list of niggling problems and has had since day one -- they just never seem to get fixed. I like the speed and simplicity but Chrome will become the next IE unless Google starts paying attention to detail.
- Brian Sullivan
Chrome lets you create 'desktop applications' that don't get lost in all of those tabs and don't waste space with the address bar!
- Jon Issler
I use Chrome from time to time, but it just feels wrong when I do, I think I'll be sticking with Firefox.
- Randy
I am with Vaibhav on "webkit is the future as well"
- Peter Finn
Val: Privacy is dead. I really don't care.
- Robert Scoble
Chrome's biggest shortcomings right now are password security and the lack of plugins/extensions... Have to give Firefox a nod for having those two nailed!
- Jon Issler
I think Chrome is Google's paid service platform... http://www.johnworthington.me/...
- Johnny
Google Chrome is like FireFox back when it was Phoenix: Sleek, sexy and satisfying. Beta 2 adds autocomplete, profiles and a Greasemonkey style scripting.
- John Rubier
@Dennis check your fans. If your on a laptop the fans and/or exhaust may be blocked with dust. that happened to me on my laptop, any flash video slowed my laptop down. realized one day (after reinstalling windows and still having the problem) that my fans had a lot of dust. used compressed air to clean them out, problem solved. happy laptop!
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
One thing I know I liked about Chrome: The web-comic! http://tiny.cc/9Ck9L
- Korey
I'm amazed at how many flash/chrome issues there are. Ive never had any?
- Mike Scott
I still see that firefox is the future! unless google chrome will be a 100% organic software http://snipr.com/9u3ld
- Mark Guadalupe
I love firefox and plug-ins, but does Chrome need plug-ins? I thought their deal was to run current and next-gen online applications better, which will likely preclude the need for the plug-ins we firefox users can't live without now.
- Bill Garrett
Robert, I really like Chrome too. The universal address/search/history bar is the future of browsing. There are only a small % of sites that do not work with Chrome... usually old school corporations, such as ones that I have to pay bills online at. Grr. Works 99.8% of the time for me otherwise.
- Brian
I just installed the Windows 7 beta. I fired up IE 8 and it didn't correctly render a nonprofit's Web site I administer as a volunteer (www.spauldingcenter.org). IE 8 didn't correctly render some of the CSS. I installed Chrome and Chrome got it right. IE 8 is obviously not yet ready for release.
- Rod Bauer
from twhirl
I love Chrome and it is my default browser now. In fact all my flash problems in Firefox and IE went away in Chrome (video paused many times during playback, audio kept going). They are both memory hoars. Maybe a problem with too much Flash on websites? The lack of plugin support is very troubling.
- Chris Mayer
I'm keen for getting mac version of chrome too, though its going to be interesting to see how they're gonna handle interface
- Mike Scott
from IM
Re: 6. The search bar autofill? Err FF has that too for recently visited sites. If you get an Add-On it'll do the potential sites too.
- Adam
Google Chrome may be nice, but there was an "Epic Fail" on my system when Chrome decided that it was the default browser (out of four browsers) and would not directly allow me to un-check the Default-Browser checkbox. It was quickly removed.
- Robert Miller
Love Chrome. Use it whenever I can. It does have problems with some sites, and I'm always having problems with flash crashing in it.
- cjmart
Kind of ironic that Chrome and Firefox and both performing much better for me under Windows 7. The beta Chrome release is really sweet.
- Charlie Anzman
@Pat: I use live mesh to sync my bookmarks between machines all the time. Add your favorites folder to mesh and you are good to go. Mesh for mac is available too.
- Chris Johnson
Google Chrome doesn't know what's RSS!!! FAIL
- carrotmadman6
I feel like people are debating the relative merits of tn3270 emulators...
- Brian Roy
I like the speed/lightness of Chrome, however i dont think it will be big anytime soon with anyone other than techies. Doesnt run many addins/plugins etc... Unlikely any enterprise will adopt it either. Its a great reference app.
- Chris Johnson
Chrome certainly is clean and renders fast, but until the experience can be customized via extensions like Firefox, there is no one way I can make it my primary. I just loaded Win. 7 on my laptop and the only thing I ported over from any of my other machines was my FEBE.
- George Rogers
Important point for me is that Chrome opens more of the monitor for the content on the page, not for toolbars that i do not need while browsing a page. no loss of functionality without the toolbar.
- Jeff DiStanlo
I wonder how many people even know what tn3270 is used for :) I know I do all too well.
- Patrick Allmond
+++ on this. FoxMarks is awesome. Just wish FoxMarks had an iPhone browser sync also :(
- Patrick Allmond
Any Flock 2.0 users here? If Chrome comes out for the Mac, I may take a look as well - but Firefox/Flock has been great for me for now.
- Erich Miller
@Robert: Maybe simplicity wasn't the right word..."ease of use" might be a better term. I think that FF's layout is not as radically different from the browsers I grew up with (IE & Netscape), as Chrome seems to be...maybe that's why I find it simpler to use. Having said that, Chrome is by no means complex, just not as intuitive as FF. As you mentioned, the plug-ins add to the ease of use. It seems you can get a FireFox plug-in for anything.
- Charlie Flowers
BTW, have you tried FF's AutoPager plug-in. That thing is amazing! It "automatically loads the next page of a site inline when you reach the end of the current page for infinite scrolling of content"...it's perfect for things like Twitter, Google, and yes it works for FriendFeed too. :D
- Charlie Flowers
I'm using Flock 2.0 on both Mac and Windows. I've uninstalled Chrome -- didn't care for it much since Flock does everything I need it to.
- Victor Solanoy
:hits the Googles to figure out what the Flock you guys are talking about:
- teleken
IE8 (and Firefox) offer a lot of tools to supplement your browsing experience. Chrome just gets out of the way. I'm not sure one or the other is a fundamentally superior approach.
- Toph Tucker
Installed Flock for all of 5 minutes. Sticking with Chrome, thanks.
- teleken
ctrl+t takes forever on IE8, and for what? A blank tab. I like Chrome's approach
- Andrew Smith
Firefox's is simple and extendable. Firefox' strength comes from its pluggability and ease of developing new plugins. Chrome needs to beat that.
- Angsuman Chakraborty
Chrome needs to support Linux before it can even think of replacing Firefox. Chromium port of Chrome on Linux isn't very stable.
- Angsuman Chakraborty
firefox plugins are the new activeX. there's too much functionality i use for me to shift *now*. i *do* like chrome, though.
- moogs
I like moving tabs into new windows, but does crashes alot w/ Flash
- Da
7. If one tab crashes, all the other tabs are unaffected. Let's see ANY other browser do that.
- Nathan Chase
i think i'll stick with firefox. so much more you can do with it..
- Terry O'Fee
Chrome is fast (unlike IE), has a very minimal UI (also unlike IE), and you can move tabs to other windows. I have never been able to get Firefox to open new tabs next to the tab they're opened from, instead of at the far right, plus I don't really care about extensions. Plus, I've never had any issues with Flash. The only problem is that my school email won't work in Chrome (but that's minor). Chrome wins for me.
- imperator3733
from twhirl
Robert - how is the performance of IE8 compared to Chrome and Firefox? Personally, I'd be using Chrome if I had my add-ons and greasemonkey scripts. I love Chrome's mult-tasking / memory management - very nice
- Susan Beebe
@Imperator, Firefox's UI can be slimmed down, and you can fix the tab issue with Tab Mix Plus. Also, Firefox 3.1 is faster than Chrome.
- Tanath
how bout: Chrome is CSS compliant? IE8 isn't, I know this by experience
- Duncan Riley
@Nathan -- as far as I know, IE8 separated tabs into different processes first....
- Toph Tucker
I think FriendFeed should put a comment button at the bottom of the comments... that said, Opera is the fastest, but it has a few shortcomings. I use FireFox or Chrome depending on what PC I'm at. Some sites only work in IE.
- Gus
Google Chrome uses your screen real estate more efficiently
- Aad 't Hart
Chrome focuses on the web and not on the browser and that's what a browser's supposed to do.
- Rohit
May be when there are basic extensions available for Chrome then it will be fair to compare with Firefox. For now, I don't see Chrome that useful, even though it's clean, a bit faster and provides more screen space. After a couple of days of using Chrome, I switched to Firefox as I felt less productive without the powerful extensions in Firefox.
- Amar Shah
When Chrome has an extension like Better GReader, TabMixPlus, and NoScript, then I'll switch, but FF has everything I need with the extensions. NoScript is about the ONLY addon I absolutely need to use for security of my computer.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
You can install extensions on the Chromium Builds! Go for it!
- Will Higgins™
love chrome as much as the next guy, but it does crash sometimes over simplest things, like downloading sth from gmail or greader. & it's not just one tab that goes - it all goes & only one comes back, either gmail or greader...
- siggimus
Chrome also crashes when importing Firefox Bookmarks, which makes it awkward to switch. But yeah, I would still use Firefox over IE 8.
- Todd Brunner
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my mother understands the search-thingy-box in chrome.
- Svensonsan
@scobleizer I think this would have made a good blog post. Would have been easier to read you view points. The discussion could then have happened on friendfeed. Too many comments to read properly
- Sidharth Dassani
Chrome and WebKit are the future - just hope there's still room for Firefox. Remember how Firefox became Firefox?
- Mona Nomura
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I agree. Chrome focuses on opening fast, which is critical for impatient people like me. Firefox and IE are way too slow.
- Richard Crocker
WebKit can do CSS3 gradients, and I have only seen it in WordPress for creating actual images with gradients. Chrome is the future indeed! Extensions? heh, I use javascript bookmarklets to do my bidding! Chromes bookmark manager is more powerful than I expected. Passwords can be imported from FF but there is no backup option yet.
- Web20Critic
If chrome crashes, report it! Make a note of what you were doing and blog it, microshare it, post it on the chromium blog etc. This way all of us can help make it work for us! Nice thread for tech support, Mr Scoble!
- Web20Critic
7. Because Chrome has a new and improved version every week/month/quarter (depending upon the distribution channel) whereas IE version comes once in 3 years.
- Varun Mahajan
Robert: How did you get IE8 on Windows 7??? The installer refused to run when i tried.
- Roberto Bonini
Roberto: it came with Windows 7. Or so I thought. I already had it loaded on this machine before I upgraded.
- Robert Scoble
can anyone tell me how to add Fast Company site to my iGoogle
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- Amar Shah
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- Sagar Shah
FriendFeed currently supports 59 other services right now. What services are next on the list?
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if I could have anobii... ;-)
- Marco Castellani
I'm hoping that the ones listed at http://coldacid.net/blog... show up soon.
- Chris Charabaruk
Is the new Windows Live service in the FF queue?
- Amar Shah
Do you mean the Windows Live status message in Live Messenger and Live Profile? It'd be interesting if it is.
- Chris Charabaruk
Yes, the new Live status message that can be added to home.live.com and Live Messenger.
- Amar Shah
It would be nice to have the action links (comment, like, more) at the bottom of the thread (also, or instead of at the top), since having it at the top results in a lot of scrolling/wheel-work on longer threads.
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Hells yes!
- Chris Charabaruk
+1
- Amar Shah
That was the first suggestion I made here when I first joined. I wouldn't think this would be difficult to implement and it would be a great improvement in usability.
- Gail Gardner
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Best FF post of the day. I think I will buy a picture frame for it.
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Robert, I'm going to frame this and mail it to you to autograph it.
- Mike Fruchter
They're playing and kidding that's all. Robert "learned" blogging from Dave. And they're friends not follower-followed.
- directeur
Do limited edition prints. :)
- Roberto Bonini
That's "places" then. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Roberto - Finally, a plausible game plan to monetize friendfeed.com/scobleizer
- Mitch
I'm not looking for a place that's *free* of Scoble, just less enslaved.
- Dave Winer
Dave, just unfollow and your chains will be free.
- Michael Krigsman
Yep. Signed for a 30%markup on unsigned ones. :). Not quite an iFart, but close.
- Roberto Bonini
Michael, don't talk to me like I'm an idiot -- I don't like it when people do that.
- Dave Winer
+1 Dave! I'm not even subscribed to you Sir, but I have so much respect for you!
- directeur
Dave, apologies if it came off that way--definitely not my intention.
- Michael Krigsman
Cooooooool. Anyway -- I have unfollowed Scoble. On Twitter that pretty much works, but here -- This is ScobleFeed, The First Church of Scoble is not an overstatement.
- Dave Winer
It actually makes alot of sense what you are saying dave. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I said that in regards to your church of scoble post dave. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Dave: you crack me up. I remember when people talked that way about you and you didn't like it.
- Robert Scoble
So much labia to gluteal activity now days. Just gotta love the power puckerers!
- James D Kirk
Scoble: I'm not going to take the bait on that -- I have unfollowed you, that's a neutral statement, it's not meant to hurt your feelings, or otherwise. That's the way this goes. No one is forced to follow. But, you really do get in my face more than I want. I meant everything I said in today's piece. And it's not aimed at you, or supposed to make you feel bad. This is the problem. Everything here is about you, according to you. I don't like it. I'm not asking you to change anything.
- Dave Winer
But if you want to NOT be the topic of conversation in every which way including ways you don't like, then you should change the way you do things. I'm not going to tiptoe around your ego, esp when you insert it all kinds of places where it doesn't belong.
- Dave Winer
BTW, I didn't like the way you were dealing with me last spring, so I changed my behavior, I never asked you to change.
- Dave Winer
According to Scoble, it's not who follows you, but who you follow. By definition he won't give a crap if someone unfollows him. Just my guess. Robert Scoble in no way has paid for this comment. ;)
- James D Kirk
James +1. I am not holding a gun to anyone's head here. Enslaved? That is a harsh word.
- Robert Scoble
Damn it Scoble. Give me a "-1" immediately, else the whiners of the world will consider that comment an endorsement! :P
- James D Kirk
I always found it interesting the tendency for one person to reduce another person's interest, or agreement with someone else, to brainwashing or mass delusion merely because they disagree with it. If you listen to Robert Scoble or you talk about what he says, you clearly are brainwashed and are a devout member of the Church of Scoble?
- Mark Trapp
Dave, I just blocked you with these reasons. 1. He feels that too much of friendfeed is enslaved to me. So, I freed him from my bonds. 2. He wants a place to post without interruption from me, so I gave it to him because now I won't see his friendfeed posts and be tempted to reply to them. 3. He once told me he blocks anyone who says that they are unfollowing him to "save them the...
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- Fast Company
Actually I said no one needs to suffer. You're totally within your rights to block me and I wish you the best! It still won't solve my problem, because the ScobleSphere is bigger than Scoble. :-(
- Dave Winer
@Robert: MySpace I'll buy but I'm thinking you just meant you don't use Live.com for search...because you do, in fact, have a Live.com profile! It's right here: http://is.gd/eo9b - and you already have 41 people in your network! You work fast! :-)
- Sarah Perez
Sarah: yeah. But I don't use it much. I have a myspace page too.
- Robert Scoble
I don't know this may seem way out there, but you all might want to actually you know, read the piece. It actually says that Scoble is right and the other guys are wrong. Funny how one might actually miss that you know, if you know you didn't you know read the you know actual piece. http://bit.ly/P0CR
- Dave Winer
shedali: actually I am a social media fungus. I am everywhere Dave Winer doesn't want me to be. But glad we can get back to something more interesting like whether Steve Jobs is still making cool product or not.
- Robert Scoble
Jobs? Is he still alive? I thought I heard he died and was turned in yogurt.
- Jack&Cleo
Jack: that just proves that you can break news by both eating yogurt and friendfeeding, doesn't it?
- Robert Scoble
@Robert - sure, we all have abandoned MySpace pages :) but the home.live.com thing is still kinda new soooo....anyway, it's cool that you set it up with your Twitter info 'cause I can see the tweets from my network in my Live Messenger window...that's handy
- Sarah Perez
@Sarah - I agree the new home.live.com is very cool....
- Amar Shah
Dave: people read the post. The issue is that the most interesting portion of the post was in the first paragraph, where you launched into a diatribe about how much you can't stand Scoble being everywhere. It didn't relate to the rest of your post, but you chose to put it out there anyway. You really don't get to control what portions of what you put out in public people react to.
- Mark Trapp
Dave: I'll bet most of the folks repsponding here probably did read your post, and are just responding the first seemingly unrelated "#" where you wish you didn't see so much of Robert, rather than the rest of it where you weigh in on the Arrington/Calacanis v Scoble kerfuffle.
- Ken Sheppardson
I haven't seen Scoble show up in the "Really Gay Room" yet. Maybe Dave would feel more comfortable hanging out there.. ;-)
- Jeff P. Henderson
This is a great list of great blog posts. I could tweet all day from it but you can pick what you like http://adjix.com/i5s7
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They should have. I had read this news first on your blog last week.
- Amar Shah
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Here are the reasons people are giving me why friendfeed sucks:
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1. Tim O'Reilly said that he liked the news aggregation, but gets too distracted by the comments and likes. You can't hide those.
- Robert Scoble
2. Ross Mayfield said he gets overwhelmed. I figured out that friend-of-a-friend feature is bringing way too much into his view. If he follows just one person, me, he sees hundreds of items every week.
- Robert Scoble
Too much Gmail thinking in FF. They vastly improved e individual utility, but lost the ability to scale beyond a single use case
- ming yeow
3. Other people tell me that they don't know how to use it, the UI has too many choices. On further pulling what they really wanted was the "best of day" feature but it is hard to find and not very useful unless you've been very careful on following people.
- Robert Scoble
I find way more things to like about FF than I do with Twitter.
- Jeff P. Henderson
4. Other people tell me that they want more help in figuring out who people are before they follow them. They have a point. I just visited some people's pages and I have no idea who they are, or what kinds of things they are passionate about.
- Robert Scoble
I like it but I don't use it as much because I get overwhelmed by noise friend-of-a-friend introduces a lot of people that just don't fit in with what I want to see. I don't think I would care if I was seeing a lot of relevant information to me.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
If I could figure out how to feed Twitter's @replies into FF I'd be all about it.
- LA Snark
5. Other people tell me they want to do just see items that have lots of likes. I don't know how to do that for them.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter has first mover advantage. I have too many relationships in Twitter that are not on FriendFeed. No easy way for me to sync Twitter followed/followers with FriendFeed and use it as a Twitter client. Then I'd like clean way to dedupe the Twitter stream out of FriendFeed to see the special stuff in FriendFeed. Its not enough to just hide Tweets without likes/comments.
- Elliott Ng
It isn't about if it sucks or not, it just isn't for everyone, just like twitter. Twitter is simpler, I can use twitterific on my mac & iPhone. Actually, this does suck. Everytime I hit return to try and add a space, it posts the comment. Beyond 140 characters, you do need white space to be able to read text on a computer screen.
- Steve Rhodes
I like FF because it is configurable. You can see as much or as little as you want and you have full control (or almost full control). The other major plus with FF is that it is threaded so you can have actual conversations.
- Jeff P. Henderson
6. Other people tell me they want to see a strict reverse chronological view and that I can't figure out how to do that for them either.
- Robert Scoble
If I had to stack rank, this would be my #1 tool. Ahead of Twitter, Facebook, strands, and anything else similar
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
7. Ross Mayfield wanted an easy "share this item on my blog" feature. I know how to do that (use the "More" menu, copy the permalink, etc) but that's too geeky and not as nice as Facebook's "share" feature.
- Robert Scoble
7. I like how twitter reminds me of birds: cheep cheep
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
Twitter, like email and Google reader, has a nice "author"/"headline" format that is easy to scan...FriendFeed visually makes you work harder to extract meaning from the stream.
- Elliott Ng
Fascinating. I can be as negative as or more than anyone else, but I don't associate FF with sucking.
- a runcible MiniMage
ming: there are lots of people who tell me they try friendfeed and don't get the point of it and leave. If friendfeed solves some of these pain points in 2009 it will make evangelism of the service a lot easier.
- Robert Scoble
Format of the FriendFeed stream is not efficient...seems like a lot of scrolling to get infomation...less easy to scan, show/hide, tag, etc. than Google Reader.
- Elliott Ng
Not everyone is going to get every thing. I suppose, though, that it's significant when it's LOTS of people.
- a runcible MiniMage
Is the learning curve for the UI and information flow really overwhelming for the tech-savvy group it's aimed at? I doubt it. That said it's not a perfect product, and I can see how some people may want their aggregation without a social media aspect.
- Mo Kargas
I think #4 has merit. You can somewhat tell what people like by what they talk about and what content they share on various services, but I think FF could allow for a quick "About Me" somewhere on the profile so people would know who you are, where you're from, and what your interests are (other than the internet).
- Mark Frost
MiniMage: I didn't say that I thought it sucks, but this is the feedback I'm getting as I show it to others and talk to other people about their experiences. I've heard this feedback enough now to know that these are the roadblocks to adoption.
- Robert Scoble
Ooh, I like the idea of a view with a strict reverse chronological order.
- Eric Florenzano
FF has great potential for the aggregator but needs a simple grid of feeds in and feeds out for everything. That way I could choose where to make updates and control the flows. Twitter is feeding more than one place for me. I could use FF in some of the same ways as TweetDeck but only if I could make it work bi-directionally with Twitter and as needed with other services.
- Lee Herman
Bottom line: if I choose to live inside of Twitter where my relationships are, and I have to go into Google Reader to check feeds, FriendFeed just doesn't add enough incrementally especially since I have my Reader set up with important feeds and it doesn't replace the need to go check Twitter anyway.
- Elliott Ng
I pretty much ignored Friend Feed until I saw you mention the live feed a few days ago. Now I'm hooked. Darn you Scoble! Darn you to heck I say! :P
- MarkCarras
#8: clients like Tweetdeck are non existent. Same for iPhone apps.
- Robert Scoble
I *really* dont like the Friend of Friend feature
- Sam Houston
Sam: you know you can turn it off, right?
- Robert Scoble
Recall I adopted FriendFeed before you. :) Still like the aggregated feed for myself but haven't become a Kung Fu Master of FriendFeed to make it really work for me. Maybe completely hiding Twitter, setting up more groups, hiding more media types, and adding more people, would make it work for me.
- Elliott Ng
So really, most of the complaints could be resolved if some of the folks making those neat Twitter applications made one for Friendfeed or if FF implemented these on their own. Sounds like a great 2009 for FF either way:-)
- Brandon Mendelson
This is a feature recommendation list for the FF team.
- Gadiel Rivera
scoble: I am just not sure if the world needs friendfeed. I am a big fan of reducing noise as the most direct form of value add (think google), aggregating and then recommending seems a little twisted. Hope I am making sense
- ming yeow
Until recently I had hard time understanding how to make good use of FF. It was too noisy and difficult to use as compared to Twitter. However, after seeing your video on 20 reasons for using FF on FastCompany, I am now able to understand it a lot better and making good use of it. Since seeing that video, I have not been able to stop using Twitter and FF. Thanks Robert for producing that awesome overview video. FF team should have created that a long time back.
- Amar Shah
So, basically, it doesn't suck. They just don't know how to use it. Everybody is not built to use everything. None of these points raised have much substance to me.
- Rahsheen the Dream
ming: the world might not need friendfeed but I sure do. Also, it's really the only competitor to facebook out there and facebook needs more competition.
- Robert Scoble
FF grew on me - it's organization is a bit off-putting for me but I've managed to wrap my oddly mapped out logic around it. It does help drown out the noise of Twitter.
- Renee Hendricks
FF is simply confusing. Not a friendly UI at all. Don't Make Me Think says Steve Krug. FF is making me think and I just don't have the patience for it.
- Bora Celik
Robert, I guess my problem is..is that I can't find that option :P I'll go look now :)
- Sam Houston
Friendfeed has been a fairly fluid concept since I started using it, and the kinds of suggestions you're hearing from Ross and Tim get addressed and fixed all the time. The question is, even if the Friendfeed crew could get every nuance tuned to exactly the specifications people are giving you, would they actually come around and use it, or would there just be another excuse? Sure, it's not perfect, but it's a work in progress -- and they progress fast around here.
- Pete D
I can't stand Facebook. Totally different though. One is all about time waste pokes, super pokes, and other useless crap and Friend Feed is more about networking and sharing actual content and thoughts. Friend Feed is about actual communication.
- MarkCarras
Sam: click hide on an item twice. That will bring up the hide options dialog where you can select turning off friend of a friend. By the way, even if you turn off all that stuff you'll still be able to see those items at the bottom of the page.
- Robert Scoble
Pete: as friendfeed gets better it pulls more people in. Fixing roadblocks to evangelizing a product DOES pull more people into using it.
- Robert Scoble
Lets not forget there is no easy way to follow conversations that you did not originate, I should have the option of being notified when someone else comments on a thread I posted on. FriendFeed is awesome though
- Kelly Johns
Mark: I have 5,000 people on facebook and I never get my time wasted through poking or other useless crap. The news feed there is quite good and the social graph is way more advanced than friendfeed.
- Robert Scoble
Well, maybe I am missing somethings, but everything I have seen at Facebook just bugs me. Maybe I should look at yours and see what I am missing.
- MarkCarras
To me, FriendFeed isn't about being a social graph. It's first and foremost about aggregating items I publish irrespective of the source service. The ability to subscribe to a person is more comparable to subscribing to a news feed as opposed adding a friend on Facebook. In terms of subscriptions, FF is basically Google Reader with a proper commenting system.
- trextor
Bora, I found Facebook's UI more confusing than Friendfeed's. The difference for me is the more I use and discover the nuances of FF the more I like it, where as Facebook has flat-line. Granted, a component that's hard to factor out (for me anyway) is FB is people-I've-known centric and FF is people-I'm-discovering oriented + grappling with ideas.
- Micah
Contrary to Robert's opinion, I hope FF developers don't start thinking that they need to compete with Facebook. Subscribers != Friends. It's that simple. If anything, they're competing with RSS readers. For what it's worth, many of these same issues also plague RSS readers.
- trextor
FF does have an iphone app coming any day now (Friendly). And with some more options with the IM feature (like activating it when you comment on a post like this so then it notifies you when a response is made) then it could become even more conversational. I view this as more professional and higher IQ than Facebook personally.
- Amani
I'm with you on that Trextor. Friend Feed is more like RSS style of social networking. Facebook is not. Facebook just doesn't have a focus of info like Friend Feed.
- MarkCarras
I have to be honest that I don't use Friendfeed as much as I probably should. They have so much automated features that I don't even bother to login in weeks.
- Vlad Zabblotskyy
57 comments and 29 likes in 48 minutes. Interesting!
- Robert Scoble
I feel as if Robert is doing an evil (not really) little experiment with us and showing someone else to prove some point ...LOL.
- Amani
Amani: I just noted that because it seemed to have touched a nerve. Got a lot of feedback very quickly.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, many of those are very valid points and it's easy to see why a new user can get overwhelmed. I know that Brett keeps talking about making the service easier and friendlier for new users. I think they should perhaps offer a 'Lite' version for new users that hides a large number of features which can later be accessed by enabling the 'Advanced' features. Just a thought.
- Mark Krynsky
It took me 5 minutes just to figure out where my post was in this huge list of comments! Amani is right, FF will become way more conversational when it notifies you on additional comments on posts like this. Facebook is good at doing this when you comment on wall posts.
- Kelly Johns
The 'Send an IM when someone comments on my posts' feature has probably been my favorite of the year as it keeps me very engaged with people that comment on my items.
- Mark Krynsky
The 'date of post order' and some sort of basic profile are my 2 highest requested features for FriendFeed.
- Kol Tregaskes
Very useful list.
- Dave Winer
My biggest problem is that all my real world friends are just now getting onto facebook. a few are moving to twitter finally. it will be a year or more before my network migrates to friendfeed. you have to go where the people are! unless of course you could define a network on one platform and use the features of another platform to view/interact with that network. too much 'friend adding' duplication now. i wish you could treat these tools as readers rather than network definers.
- Jeff DiStanlo
UI has too much clutter. Customization support is needed. Post aggregation could use custom filters,
- anand
I consider FF the "heavy duty conversationalist". If I want wih a few folks I know for a little convo, FB is great. If I want a little convo with more folks I know a little less and make it public, Twitter is great. FF is about longer, tied-in conversations, holistic. FF needs a mobile client that works WELL with more phones than just the high-end ones else it will be in nichedom for a while."
- Patrick Moorhead
It mostly boils down to information overload. Friendfeed needs to invest substantial resources and effort in dealing with that problem before it can appeal to the masses. Friendfeeding is an activity for a small elite at this stage -- for people who can easily process huge torrents of text.
- Sean McBride
Robert, re: #8: clients that work with FF include Twhirl and PeopleBrowsr.
- Will King
I'm surprised there's not more of an outcry to be able to dynamically filter services in Friend list/feeds (home, list1, list2, etc.). It'd be a lot easy for me to scan these if I can a) filter-out 1 to many services (eg, don't display twitter, flickr, rss on list1) and b) filter-in 1 to many services (eg, display only twitter, only twitter and plurk, etc).
- Matt Albiniak
On FF vs FB: I think FB may be a competitor for FF ("ok, I can do this in Facebook" says the mainstream user) but FF is not a competitor to FB ("Facebook is much more fun", says the mainstream user) due to FB's app aggregation.
- santiromero
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