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We've been acquired by Facebook! We are really excited about joining the Facebook team. (Note: FriendFeed will continue to operate - see the blog post for details) - Bret Taylor from Bookmarklet

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Boom. - Louis Gray

Grr! - directeur

Woah... - Brandon Titus

Uh. Well, that's the end of that. - Akiva

Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Roberto Bonini

What does this mean for FriendFeed, Bret? - Kol Tregaskes

Lame. - Mark Trapp

great title bret. well played. - MG Siegler

WOW - Bindu Reddy

Congrat! So, what does this mean to your team and to FF in general? - Dilip Dand

wahhhhhhhhhh - Myrna

maaaan - Jamie

wowow - Harry Wolff

congrats - brainno722 (Peter)

Nooooooooooooo - Mushin

Wait... seriously? - Ken Sheppardson

Congratulations to the friendfeed team. I know this is huge for y'all. Please don't let us spoil your parade as we weep. - Ordinarybug Heather

Seriously?!? ..... - sebastian☆rocket brother

oh boy. - Carlos Ayala

it was good while it lasted, Friendfeed. :( - holly #ravingfangirl

OMG - deerstep

"FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team." Those are NOT encouraging things to read as a FF user. - Hiding in Two Corners

gratz - Ali

My heart is sinking as I type this. Please tell me that it isn't a late April Fool's joke. :( - Tyson Key

Big news! I second Kol & dilip's request for what this means for the team and FF's future. - Brandon Titus

O_o - Joe Silence

So it IS true. - Hector

Nicely done Bret - Jennifer Van Grove

Congratulations btw, guys! - Kol Tregaskes

Sniff... not sure if I'm excited about this. But I have enormous respect for the FriendFeed team... so, I assume they believe in the move as more than an exit strategy. - Michael Leggett

Congrats, Bret. - Jordan Hofker

Congratulations, I suppose. A bit worried Facebook is going to ruin everything though. I'm not fond of Facebook, to say the least. - Morgaine LeFaye

Um. - Barry Mitchelson

Oh my... Hopefully FriendFeed won't vanish and good luck :) - Tarmo Aidantausta

Do we call it FaceFeed? FriendBook? - Tyson Key

Oh no.... - Ben Hanten

What does mean for us? - Rich from iPod

damn here it is... :( - Edgar Rodríguez

*waits for wall-to-wall ads and constant spambots* - Joe Silence

FriendFace!!! (i love it crowd) - Bahriye

Die. - zio bonino

Congrats - Zoltan Szendro

I dont want FF to end - Fee501st

Wow - Shevonne

Ostregheta. - reloj

Congrats guys, in a bittersweet sort of way. - Hutch Carpenter

Oh no! - Erdinc YILMAZEL

I like Friendfeed and I do not like Facebook. Gratz to you guys though, I think. - Mark Sorrell

"Oh shit..." came to mind immediately. :( - Tyson Key

Scott, yep not encouraged by that comment. :-( - Kol Tregaskes

Congrats on the deal, best wishes to the FF'ers in helping facebook get it together! - Sean O'Connor

This could get exciting, especially concerning twitter :-P - Malte Steckmeister

Congrats for Friendfeed team, but I'm seriously worried for us :((((((((((( - Roberto

Congratulations... I'm sure this is pretty exciting for everyone at FriendFeed... We're all looking forward to where it takes you! - Nathan Chase

Wow - Rodfather

*Sobs* - Tyson Key

wow - Jack Wilson, K4SAC

come on. Bret, facebook is so closed. so different from Friendfeed. besides that. Congrats to the team - Edgar Rodríguez

machecazzo - Sba (stolto birrafondaio)

VERY disappointed. - Joe Silence

Booo. But, you know, congrats. - Chris Nixon

OMG WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SH*T - Alp

Congrats for u guys... probably too bad for us ;-( - Laurent

God, I can see FB shutting down FF just like Six Apart shut down Pownce. - DarknessFalls

arg. - Aron Michalski

Good for you, don't know for all of us - Cristian Conti

Congrats! - Pixie

Coolest web 2.0 site I've ever seen & used. I hope things don't derail. Ads will be coming soon, which is fine, but.... then what 's next? Please no quizzes! - Ben Hanten

Who would have thought that after Facebook were shamelessly being "inspired" by FriendFeed, the inevitable would have happened? - Tyson Key

Congrats! - Moushumi Kabir

Congrats guys. :) - Meryn Stol

Congratulations. This is awesome for you and for Facebook. - Mike Sego

mommy? - Josh Haley

Hey guys, keep in mind that Facebook is blocked in workplaces across the nation. 250 million casual users commenting about last night's party does not intelligent conversation make. - Hector

yes you have just failed at failing, no it is not a double negative. - Bahriye

Tragic. - Shannon

I really can't see how FB would buy FF only to shut it down. There are way too many innovations and features FF has that FB honestly needs. I'm looking forward. - Harry Wolff

congrats! - Jay from Cadmus

Congrats? Everybody who's saying Congrats doesn't know what he's saying. Go to hell. - zio bonino

Yeah, quizzes are EVIL! - Tarmo Aidantausta

Oh, this does not make me happy. Not at all! I've stayed off of Facebook intentionally and FriendFeed is my favorite social network. This is like when the Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees. :>( - Larry Hawes

i have stopped using FB for the most part and liked FF alot more. now FF will go the way of FB. screwed again. - Joe Silence

Berge Gazen beat your score in Mafia Wars - Berge Gazen

Feedface or Facefeed? - Fee501st

FUCK THAT ! [Anyways good job guys ^^] - TiTi

Enjoy your fat paychecks, guys. You've sold us out. - Akiva

Bravo Bret! Been following your successes ever since we had the opportunity to work together on the YellowPages.ca / Google Maps Canada deal. Congrats! - Sebastien

I wished it was Google or even Yahoo!, instead... - Tyson Key

i really hope ff stays as it is. fb is kinder carder while ff is a great tool. - jkkmobile

Not sure what to make of this. It could eiter be a big win or a huge fail. - dorn

It could have been Microsoft, which would have been worse for everyone. :( - Tyson Key

Can I take this opportunity to say I HATE facebook? - Alex Scrivener

seems the only ppl happy here are the ones in the biz or who stand to profit from the merger. - Joe Silence

I guess we should get ready to get poked by our supposed friends and have various shit thrown at us? Plus 5,000 requests by apps that nearly all suck. - Joey Gibson

duh - aybars badur

I HATE facebook - Pedram

this is simply awful. - Joe Silence

Painful. And apparently I completely misunderstood what FF was trying to accomplish both technically and as an organization. I guess Facebook must have dangled a pretty big bag of money in front of them. - Ken Sheppardson

FriendFeed is Dead! Long Live FriendFeed! :/ - Tyson Key

Awesome. Please fix Facebook email :) http://fudge.org/too-muc... - Jay Cuthrell

Facebook is going to acquire the web! - l'Ego di Gigi

To me, FriendFeed is like Porsche and Facebook a Kia. I'm curious to see which will become which.. - Moushumi Kabir

Oh noes! - Burcu Dogan

Congrats Bret! - Robin Dindayal

I will reserve judgement, i don't like or use FB but if FF maintains it's current goodness i don't care who cuts the checks. - SteVe "Beefy Miracle" C

I hope this doesn't turn into an APP filled hunk of crap. I love FriendFeed, it was the untouched gem of microblogging. I don't want Mafia Wars invited in my FriendFeed!!! Congrats on the sale though. - Jay 'Farmington'

Where's the "dislike" option? - Gregor Morrill

+1 Gregor - Tyson Key

accipicchia che pessima notizia - massimo mantellini

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!!! -_- - Bahriye

I just realized this is like when K-mart bought Sears ... - DarknessFalls

/ponders the meaning of "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being." - Philipp Lenssen

And I will officially be leaving FriendFeed today. - Michael Forian

omg - John Mueller

@Philipp: until the new masters start flexing their muscles and bringing in their own people to enforce their own vision. - Joe Silence

I read the blog post and one statement stands out to me "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being." The time being. This is not just bad, I think it may be #FAIL - berchman

Such great news! - Steve Rubel

OMG! - Zac Bowling

big mistake :(( - emresezgin

I suppose it will be called FriendFace? http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Phil Harrison

Oh. Hell. No. - CannonGod

Oh My God! They Killed FriendFeed! - Tyson Key

It's a win/win! congrats all. - Alan Le

Congrats to you. - Evan Travers

Congratulations. I look forward to seeing what this new partnership means for users. - Aren Grimshaw

FF will surely be integrated into FB at some point? - Kol Tregaskes

damn Ken is spot on! +1000 Ken! - vijay

not good. - Jacque

Oh. My. Gosh. - Enrico Lamperti

Facebook obviously liked FriendFeed a long time ago. Why would they have copied so many features (feed item comments and the "Like" action, to name a couple) otherwise? It was only logical for this to happen eventually. Doesn't mean I like it, but acquisition is part of the game. I have the same feeling I did when SocialThing! was acquired by AOL, though. - dgw

"Relationship Status: It's complicated" comes to mind. ;) - Tyson Key

Wow, I finally sign up, and read this. This could end up being a very bad thing for FF fans: "Your FriendFeed friend just signed up on this poll, would you like to too?" - Brian Bommarito

sad... - Marvin

This will give FriedFeed the attention it deserves. Otherwise it would have been a geek thing forever. - Michael Netsch

aw, this sux!! Congrats to the Friendfeed team though! - acedanger

please don't merge logins!!! please - earlyadopter

They are deceived when they suffer themselves to be drawn after the image of things, without seeking for the true reason of them. - The Complex Days

I hope it works OK to you guys! - Rodrigo Jaroszewski

D: - Chris Charabaruk

+1 Netsch - I still like FF more but this finally legitimizes FF to the mainstream. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Friend request una beata fava. Pecunia non olet. - Federico Bolsoman

Yeah, I really can't wait to see what value the Ashton Kutchers and Oprahs of the world have to add to FriendFeed. - Akiva

Please tell me this is a delayed April Fools' Day joke. - Rochelle

Facebook & FriendFeed: don't cross the lifestreams! D:< - CannonGod

I guess this means I'll have toget a facebook account after all.... Hope the API stays up and running.... - Roberto Bonini

"Were rich B!tch!" - Chappelle - adolfo foronda

What a bunch of greedy assholes. - zio bonino

So ? - Ercan Bülbül

Does this mean that we'll be seeing an influx of webcam spammers, a la Twitter? Along with abolishment of the rooms feature, crappification of the search feature, and more "privacy features" that really just put more nails in the openness coffin? - Tyson Key

:( - Pavlo Zahozhenko

Some people will do whatever their friends request........ - Michael Muller

I really don't see why people would be anything but excited about this Facebook freindfeed deal. Great news as far as I am concerned. The Friend feed team is going to go over facebook and make it that much easier to connect, share... isn't that what the social web is about? - Kevin Murray

I know a lot of people who use Facebook and enjoy it and that's fair enough. It's just not my cup of tea. The chaps from Friendfeed will get rich and the technology will get absorbed in Facebook but I can't see Friendfeed continuing in anything like it's present form. - Paul Nash

Don't be so negative, something good might eventually come of this... - Tarmo Aidantausta

Congrats! I know you all must be crazy excited right now. - Michele Lorito-Chase

chance for FriendFeed to become more mainstream... congrats FriendFeed team! - Jeroen De Miranda

Nothing could make me happier than if they integrated the good tools from FriendFeed into Facebook, which is where all my friends are. So a big "yay!" from me. - Ian Betteridge

happy for you guys, but not for all of us - Flavio

congratulations. this is going to be interesting. - Dave Beckett

I think I preferred the non-mainstream version of FriendFeed... - Tyson Key

I'm turning on my black shirt, my black trouser, my black socks, my black shoes. Although I probably must be happy for you. - Ton Zijp

NASTY NASTY BAD BAD. But we'll see... - Daniel Morgan

Game over. - stark

yeah removing feed also works. - Bahriye

Reminds me so much of Last.fm fall... - Marcos

Facebook is like a giant who listens to nobody. Please keep your attitude but I don't think you will be able to do so. - Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu

Noooooooo...... - Sung W. Lim

yeahhh - Çağrı Burak Sürer

NO - Cristian Conti

I don't know, Like it? or dislike it? - Ömer Balamir

What happens to all the content that we've created and imported here, and the associated metadata? Will all that disappear into the ether? - Tyson Key

If the FriendFeed guys can make FaceBook useful and responsive again, this seems like a pretty positive step! - Robin Barooah

I have big loss of data concerns. See http://ff.im/6pHjo Is there any way to archive all my FriendFeed posts, likes, comments, and pictures (friendfeed-media.com) off-line? Can some Archive.org-like snapshots of FriendFeed be made (Once a month starting Sept 2009)? I'd like to see the cross-links between my posts & other people's posts, even in 2020. - - Mitchell Tsai

Mitchell: the FriendFeed site is not shutting down. Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users. - Bret Taylor

I just overheard a coworker mention FriendFeed. This is how the world ends... - CannonGod

Then provide us with a way to easily make a back-up of all of our posts and all of the posts we have Liked and Commented on. - Akiva

Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want it to be handed off to Facebook. - zio bonino

Near term future? - Kol Tregaskes

I don't see good things coming from this. Although I like Facebook, I liked Friendfeed more. Partly because of the environment and the smallness of it. That is now going to be ruined. So, 10-1 odds that Friendfeed will be no more within a year after it gets intergrated into Facebook? - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

I doubt it Robin. Bret can only give us assurances about the "near future." Here's what I think will happen. Just like Twitter acquired Rael Dornfest and his awesome web services, Stikkit and I Want Sandy vanished (and so did he), Facebook will acquire all the talent from Friendfeed, shut this service down and Facebook will continue to suck. - Jim the Blatant

Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want anything to be handed off to Facebook. And I don't want to lose anything. - zio bonino

Congrats obviously, but im not sure about the feeling,, different user groups which can not integrate but collide.. hope there wont be an huge integration in the future. - Yunus Tunak

I'm happy for FriendFeed! But, at the same time a bit worried about the future. Hope you guys convince FB to not be evil too. - Vishal Verma

http://friendfeed.com/sunipey... - sunipeyk

Let's hope this is like Disney's acquisition of Pixar - wherein the Pixar guys ended up in control of the animation studio... - Robin Barooah from IM

Where the f*ck is this option to undo ? - Laurent

I seriously thought this was a joke. Looks like its not. I don't like it, sorry. - Michael Lynton

Does anyone want to start a bounty to purchase Facebook? ;) - Tyson Key

#FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL #FAIL - Jacque

Congratulations! - John Craft

can't be, shouldn't be... - Kemal Y.

It is! Change is inevitable, my friends. - Bill Sodeman

Jim, I'm less cynical than you - the FriendFeed founders wouldn't do this just in order to become 'talent' at FaceBook. - Robin Barooah

I feel if I should be wearing a black arm band. But I guess when I think about it.............. - Kevin J Hatton

Oh No! I don't like this at all :( - Peter

I still think Apple will acquire Facebook, Twitter Friendfeed and Google Twitter. - Thomas Power

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! - Stephen Francoeur

My condolences to all Friendfeeders! RIP! - Evgeni Leshtanski

AAAAwwwful! - carolh

I can't believe it! damn! facebook tos will apply to friendfeed too? should i start to move to another service? why anyone would think that facebook public is friendfeed public?! damn! friedfeed was my favorite! I can't understand this move! they want to kill friendfeed or what? - paula simoes ☃

"I bet I can find 1.000.0000 people who dislike this deal."...Welcome to FriendBook. - Jacque

Well, huge congraulations to you and your team, you deserve every success. To be honest I had presumed this would happen sooner or later - the only business model cool little startups have is to hope they get bought by someone bigger for their brains and technology. I'm going to be in San Francisco in a couple of weeks and was going to stop by your office to bring you a cake and thank you for a great product - maybe I still will if you're still there and there's still a FriendFeed! - Alex Lomas

damn, damn, damn... - Kemal Y.

Grats Bret and the rest of FF. To all the naysayers... Lets see what happens before we start bitching.... - Rasmus Lauridsen

wow!! dazed and confused!! - Roberto Arancibia

I don't hate Facebook, but for sharing things Friendfeed is MUCH MUCH better! - Mathew™ aka Youngblood

I wonder if that Ben Darnell guy who *just* left the Google reader team knew about this beforehand? Wonder what he's thinking now? (http://friendfeed.com/friendf...) - Daniel J. Pritchett

Just great. I'm certainly not very happy about this. Let's just hope FB doesn't ruin FF. Ugh. - axolote

Who cares? Nothing's gonna change in our pitiful lifes. - bluretina

This ties in nicely with the fact that you soon will have the opportunity to make your Facebook profiles public and get followers there. - Michael Netsch

чатег номер два - старина хэнк

Congrats Bret! this is so great! many congrats!!! - Jason Pollock

That is capitalism for you. Luckely, there still good 'ol usenet. - ˈpɛbə

Is it April 1st somewhere in the universe? - Robert Felty

#ROFLMAO Is there anything more important than money? It seems NOT #ROFLMAO - Lora Lufark

I don't mean to be negative but there's got to be a win-win logic to each merger&acquisiton. Audience high in only quantity is clearly not a win for friendfeed in the long term by considering its unique selling points. Let's wait and see who will benefit from friendfeed's death now. - ayca

#DONTSELLMYFRIENDFEED - sunipeyk

Seriously, what is this? It's like Bret just announced that he's killed all your mothers or something. It could turn out good, it could turn out bad, but at the end of the day, who cares, it's just a website (I mean honestly, come on). I could see it going either way, but in the near term, this is a pretty big win for the FF team, so congrats guys. - Chieze Okoye

OMG! - keso

To be honest, my heart sank a little but I am happy to congratulate you and the team for building such a good brand. Well done. - Kevin J Hatton

Wow, I specifically use friendfeed b/c it is not facebook. Sounds great for the friendfeed team, but not necessarily for friendfeed users. - Evan Parker

Born to be sold, like in the old "new economy" era. Remember the late nineties? - Federico Bolsoman

Sudden desire to check out Strands again... but hey, kudos on the incoming $$ for FF team - Leslie Poston

#DONTSELLMYFRIENDFEED - Kemal Y.

This is wisdom. Bracing for Google Wave is a good idea............. - Kevin J Hatton

this is clearly a talent aquisition... why am i not excited about this? could it be because facebook has been blatantly stealing features from friendfeed shamelessly. Likes were clearly not an original facebook idea...realtime feeds is another i could go on... - Tate

While I'm sad, because I suspect this means the best things about FF will disappear or I'll be forced to use FB in some way, if the buyout was for some awesome amount of money, I can't say I blame 'em for taking an offer -- I would. - Andy Bakun

I came to FriendFeed because I don't like facebook. Now the question is, will facebook become more like friend feed? or will they just take friend feed and turn it into facebook? - Tom Ray

FF could be a good R&D arm for facebook. - Andy Bakun

Fucking morons. FriendFeed is doomed now. Think logically. Facebook has NO REASON to keep FriendFeed alive. It will simply take FF's best features, suck the life of out of it, then trash FF. Way to go, FirnedFeed, damn. - Jeremy Buff

Big Fail! - onurc

This announcement should have been held off until the plans for Friendfeed were known. Regardless, this is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone. - tollie williams

wtf ?! - Umut Balkan

I need to install "super PUKE" application ! - Bart LePoole

http://ff.im/6pQcu - Bahriye

FFail. - rowlikeagirl

I don't want my FF feed on Facebook :( I use both, but maintain both profiles separate - Leandro Ardissone ⍨

Sigh... Happy for the team if this is what they want, but baffled by the move. The users that are going to leave because of this will make FF a graveyard and the users it gains, well... Hello spam? Sorry, but I don't like it. - Vince DeGeorge from iPhone

JEREMY+++++1 - Alp B.

Wow! - felix

Jeremy +1 - batuhan

so what's next? where should we go? - Flavio

It's been fun here. - Capn' One Eye - adrift

Dang, and just as I was starting to get used to how FF works. FF is useful on it's own. I hope this only improves FF's system, rather than having it disappear into Facebook's wake. - Don Faulkner

My big question to everybody here is this: What are the potential downsides / upsides to this acquisition? I mean on paper I just don't see what the pros OR cons are. I don't care for Facebook but I don't see how them acquiring FF is going to change everything. - Nicholas Kreidberg

furthermore they are 2 different things: I follow a lot of people here that are not in my facebook list, which is for IRL friends! - Flavio

I don't know where to go next either. I had just settled down to make imaginary friends for all my non-FF tweeps, etc. now, I'm not sure if I should bother. - Don Faulkner from IM

I hope friendfeed continues to operate normally but it does not look good. - Ashish

integrate best features of ff to fb, then try to innovate in fb if possible, then kill ff... that's it, cheers, all the best. grrrr... - Kemal Y.

niczak has good points. FF & FB aren't exactly competitors, but they aren't orthogonal either. Let's hope FB's smart enough to see the difference and improve both platforms. - Don Faulkner from IM

Nicholas: The upside for Facebook is they just bought an engineering team that's built many of the feature's Facebook's going to need to stay competitive. The upside for FriendFeed's engineering team is $$$ and the ability to build system for a wider audience. FriendFeed's user base is small enough that it'll either get absorbed into Facebook or move on, and FF will become a footnote on the Internet timeline. - Ken Sheppardson

first tr.im (heard about it yesterday), now this. I wasn't a heavy tr.im user (yet), but sad to see it go, even if I think url shortening is silly. - Don Faulkner from IM

As FB said they're interested in the people and not in the site, what if the community will keep running FF without its current staff? - Flavio

Congratulations! - Sam Grover

rutgerblom, I don't expect they do either, thus my angst over this. - Don Faulkner from IM

if there's a team willing to do it and money, and if we accept some ads as everywhere else, we could make a new FF without FB - Flavio

I have worked hard in avoiding signing up for FB. Does this mean I now automatically will be on FB by virtue of my FF account? - Tony Vota from iPhone

read carefully: http://blog.socialthing.com/2009... - Kemal Y.

I'll have to go with Flavio's position too. Given this news (plus tr.im and who knows who's next), I'd tend to favor community supported or federated services for things like this in the future. - Don Faulkner from IM

I am purposely not on facebook because I don't really want to talk to people I have not talked to in 20 years. - Andy Bakun

Congrat Bret!! :)) - Cihan Cepni

trouble is (from my perspective), that the philosophies of the two platforms are at odds. FB wants to bring people to the site and keep them there, while FF is a hub, bringing people in and then sending them back out. (That's part of why it's hard for the newcomer to understand, IMHO.) - Don Faulkner from IM

This almost confirms FF will disappear: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - Kol Tregaskes

Does this mean I can throw someone a sheep on FriendFeed now? - Pinksy

I sure hope so, Rutger. I glad for their success too. I just hope there's a next best thing out there for us. - Don Faulkner from IM

Congrats all. Nice work, in spite of any naysaying out there. Keep up the innovation. - Tomas Remotigue

lame. - andy brudtkuhl

post the picture to failblog... - Kemal Y.

Quote «Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook. But the Friendfeed team is not being kept whole. Some employees will now report to Cox, others to engineering head Mike Schroepfer. In my opinion that means, long term, the Friendfeed product itself is unlikely to be a big priority.¶ But Facebook is... more... - Philipp Lenssen

+1 Kol for the techcrunch article! - Don Faulkner from IM

techcrunch: "Cox agreed, noting that Facebook is focused on being a platform and a service, and not just a destination site." I certainly hope so! - Don Faulkner from IM

Brilliant move by both Facebook and friendfeed. Congratulations!!! I have theories of what they have planned, but I doubt you would verify any of them. This is going to go so well with their SocialTV which they have been developing. I'm so happy for you! - Michael Fidler

Really saddened by this news. - Doug Beeferman

Noooooooooooooooooooooo! - LouCypher

I don't see what's so bad about it since no one knows right now what the outcome will be, everyone is just making assumptions that could possibly be wrong..... Might help just sitting back and seeing what happens first before complaining. - ChaCha Fance

Nooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrghh! I´ve resisted getting a facebook acct for so long... - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ

I wonder how the discussion over on facebook would compare to this? - Don Faulkner from IM

Drat! - Gee Ekachai

congrats guys! - Elad

Congrats, FF! I'm approaching the situation with cautious optimism. A lot of my friends only share stuff via the Facebook wall/feed, so if Facebook is able to make their feed more like the FF feed (i.e. good, instead of sucktacular) through this acquisition, it's mostly a win for me in the end. - Brian Chang

/me pokes Rutger. (just getting in practice. ;) - Don Faulkner from IM

Where will we go for the FFunderCats, bacon memes, and angry artists fighting over photo reshares now? ;) - Tyson Key

@josh: do you think FB will throw away all the crap people use? various quiz, pick 5 and so on? - Flavio

@jc: our data will not go away in the near future. what will be in few months? in a year? - Flavio

Let's see if you can do a bit better than just not being evil this time around. - Tim Tyler

Wooohooo!!, seems like we are being sent back to "good" old Facebook. Congrats Bret!! - DanDan

Looks like I'm going to repeat the same thing many others did. My first reaction was "Oh my..." I have refused to join Facebook due to its philosophy while I have been with FriendFeed from the beginning for its. I'm sad and somewhat apprehensive. - Sean Leather

Hmm. Interesting. - Ralf Becker

Add me to the fearful group. - beersage

Please say that facebook.com will be shutting down, and the combined company will still be called FriendFeed... I bet it won't happen, though. - Tyson Key

"Regarding FB/FF - Here's how it's [probably] going to work. You will most likely have an account merge, all of the services FriendFeed supports will now be aggregated on Facebook, and all of your FriendFeed friends will be in a "list" on Facebook. The FF Groups will become Facebook Groups. The FF lists will become Facebook Lists." http://ff.im/6pNxq - Ozgur Uckan

Nothing like an early retirement payout :) - Owen Greaves

Congrat Bret - Nimaa

Panic attack. Congratulations, however! :) - Count Caturday

Congratulations Bret. For me this merger makes a lot of sense. Facebook will provide the "quantity" of users, which friendfeed deserves :). - Karthick R

:( - goodmachine

FriendFeed + Facebook... Oh noes FriendFace is coming (http://www.youtube.com/watch...)! Now sorry for that link, and seriously, thanks for your work, guys. Please don't let the spirit of FriendFeed to be blown away =) - Anton

hey, that is great guys! interested to see how you integrate. - Brian Walsh

Mind blown. Never expected this. I'm also disappointed, yet optimistic at the same time. - Angus Burton

Kinda curious to see how this will all pan out...although i wouldnt want the friendfeed stuff just integrated into facebook. I feel like im among a group of people who i genuinely share interests with here...dont want to lost that. - Cass

Best case: Facebook will continue to support and develop FriendFeed. Worst case: this is great news for Amplifeeder. - David Gaw

aieeeeeeeeeee - Richard Akerman

Well done, well deserved, I hope FB's means and infrastructures empower your guys to even better things. But if quizzes appear in "my" friendfeed, evil things will haunt you and your descendents for 3 generations. - Iphigenie

:( - Eph Zero

Well done Bret! - Alemsah Ozturk

♪ ♪ This is the end.... beautiful friends ♪ ♪ - All for design

Well, I don't see the point of sticking around here if I have accounts in both and this is going to get swallowed whole into Facebook anyways. Put simply, goodbye. - Micah Collard

It was fun while it lasted. - Mr. Gunn

NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! This place will be just like twitter... - count

Congrats to the FF team - you've built a wonderful product! - Michael Nielsen

Whattttttttttttttttttttt??? - Nibi

friendfeed is a beautiful product, only god knows what facebrook will do to it. Hopefully the ability to upload files (such as mp3s) will not be removed. Zuck is a tool. - Nibi

Congratulations. I'm sorry to say that I don't plan to move with you. - Lars Juhl Jensen

I don't like this.... - Zekeriya Pehlivan

"Like" to follow this thread. Not because I like what happened. I'm horrified. FF could disappear now. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)

Same here, Kamilah. - Tyson Key

If FriendFeed had invented the "don't like" button, today would have been the day to press it. - Vishal Verma

and I just bought BuddyFeed for my iPhone this weekend. :( - Don Faulkner from IM

Oh, joy, Facebook's privacy policy is upon us! - Joris

WTF?? NOOOOO!!! Why do such good things have to be ruined by greed? Screw Facebook, and goodbye Friendfeed. - Jason R. Hunter

congratulations! - Loic Le Meur

Facebook is lucky to have such a talented group of people ... Congratulations FriendFeed! - Rob Kurrus

doesn't look like a bad joke, better be for the good then, but... Well congrats anyway guys, you did something AWESOME now let's see where Mark takes it - Dobromir Hadzhiev

That's too bad. Liked the openness if FriendFeed, and the lack crap that is on Facebook. Once FriendFeed dies, it will be Twitter only. - Mike D.

Congrats, but concerned that FriendFeed and its tools may disappear. Merging the tools with Facebook seems impossible. - Mike Reynolds

Congrats guys (and gals) ! - Benjy Weinberger

So, what does the acquisition of FriendFeed by Facebook mean to us, users of both websites: Can I make a friend request from FriendFeed, and be approved for both, on one click - Reyna Carlos

Exciting news guys. I am actually looking forward to your collaboration with / work for FB. No matter what people may or may not like about FB, it does succeed in reaching a more "diverse" audience compared to most other Web 2.0/social web companies. Paired with your team's excellence in realizing features that succeed in pleasing the geekiest of Web 2.0 affine individuals, I think you are steering towards exciting waters :) - Mustafa K. Isik

*heart sinks* actually a bit of shock - I think that Facebook will leave Friendfeed as-is but I don't think there is hope for future innovation in Friendfeed since their best superstar team members will be pulled onto 'more important' Facebook issues... - Pon

:-) + :-( very happy for the team, huge achievement, hoping to see export of innovation but not a shut down of this unique community and location - Majento

Congratulations, and best wishes for your future together! :-) - Ruchira S. Datta

Wow, I was beginning to use Friendfeed as my defacto social site...Facebook is more for real life friends. They'll just take what makes Friendfeed great, add it to Facebook and slowly kill this site. - Manuel Mas

What is the big deal? I think it'll make FF bigger and better. You should be happy about that! - orionstarr

Somebody has to got pay for it. - orionstarr

I am disappointed. I don't want to have to go to Facebook to do what i do here. I can not imagine they will port over all the features we enjoy here. We lose a lot for only a slight benefit to Facebook. - Robert

It could be worse, myspace could've bought them lol... - orionstarr

Awful news for users but congratulations to you guys. Ideally, FB will run FF as a distinct service but I'm not hopeful. I don't want the diversity and noise that facebook brings - people doing quizzes on which movie star they resemble and playing silly games. I also wanted to keep my day to day social activity distinct from the targeted information and discussion I use FF for. - Rajit

Only just started taking a serious look at FF after hearing acquisition by FB. Sounds like I'm laggard rather than a leader in use of web 2.0 - ManojRanaweera

I think how Pon said it is what I'm feeling: *heart sinks*. - Andy Bakun

Congratulations, i am really happy for you guys!! :) - Mona Nomura

I'm not a Facebook fan, but can't begrudge the FF gang their chance to reap the rewards for all their hard work. However, it would be a shame if FB ruins the good thing we all have going here. - Ken Morley

Congrats to the FF team... I hope the service doesn't disappear into a fold of light and heat. - Brandon

if all the things that make FF great are brought to FB then I'll be happy to use it - Mike Chelen

The community won't be there. Been on FB longer than any other, don't have nearly the relationship or sense of community there that I do here or on Twitter. - Karoli

Karoli: that is due to the effectiveness of the FF platform and interface, which help to join conversations and find interesting people more so than FB does - Mike Chelen

Mike: I suspect that FB wants FF for the search possibilities, not the community-building aspects. But we'll see. - Karoli

i guess congrats are in order, but I'm going to now go and remove everything I have that feeds into FF, and I have to ask -- do I have any rights over my archive? I have a private feed, and I have no interest in offering up my lifestream to the FaceBook data-miners. I hope the FF folks get what they hope for out of the deal, but my FriendFeed experience has been effectively killed. - RudĩϐЯaЯïan

I just learned about the FF acquisition by Facebook - WOW~! Congratulations Bret, Paul and FF team!! holy cow ........Mooooooooo! Where's the FF Acquisition Party? :) - Susan Beebe

Friendfeed after Facebook http://ff.im/6q5EY - Ozgur Uckan

Wow thats cool! - AbZ from Nambu

RT @alirizaesin FriendFeed, R.I.P. Home tweet home!.. - Ozgur Uckan

Congrats to facebook. Now, Twitter is the best. - miocaro

Congratulations to the FriendFeed guys on the Facebook Acquisition. Not a big fan of Facebook, so I hope my favorite Uber Aggregator, Realtime Social, Microblogging site of awesomeness is not entirely absorbed into the Facebook infrastructure. I wait with baited breath to hear what "normally for the time being" means ;). - Tom Horn

Can I now have comments propagate in both directions as far as Facebook/Friendfeed is concerned? - Piaw Na

*checks date*. Damn .. not April 1st, must be for real. While I'm happy for the FF team, since I guess this is what they wanted (congrats guys!), I can't help but think this is the beginning of the end for a great service and a vibrant community. There are reasons I don't spend any time on Facebook and do spend lots of time on FF, and some kind of "FF integrated into Facebook" just won't cut it. I hope this service will live on for at least a few more years. - Andrew Perry

Gratz to the FF team but as a user I'm not completely happy. In short, I like the FF team/product much more than I like the FB team/product. Best of luck to all. - timepilot

Все, блядь, пиздец! - ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ

WOW - very happy for all of you :-) - Kishore Balakrishnan

Bret, congrats on the acquisition. You guys put in a lot of hard work to create this community. I just hope you learned the mistakes Pownce made, Jaiku etc, and ensured that you didn't sell out your community, but that you helped it evolve into something as great as this into something better. Good luck in future endeavors! - Mike Lewis

Yay for you guys, I mean that seriously, I 'like' what this means for you personally, but -1000000 cool points for doing it with FB. Sad day. - Threepwood

Karoli: FF search is so useful because it is integrated with all the other great features that help to find relevant content. if FB wants to have a similar capability, they must also develop the underlying architecture. - Mike Chelen from IM

Sadness - yasin

Gimme my OPML export - Sriks7

Money is the root of all evil - Shakeel Mahate

shakeel, the reasons for friendfeed to join facebook are probably about other things besides money, since many of the FF staff left high-paying jobs to join in the first place - Mike Chelen from IM

Congrats, team! It's bittersweet, though. - Anne Bouey

So now we will have FriendFeed blocked at work too. Darn. - Mark Scrimshire

"Your data will not go away any time in the near term future" is not exactly inspiring for the long term for those of us who came here to escape Facebook for a) it's walled garden and b) privacy concerns. Nice for the Founders to make a pile of cash but for the many of us, it feels like we got sold down the river. Sad. - Sally Church

This is tragic. Tragic. Tragic. - Ahsan Ali

cacarr: updates for FB have progressed rapidly in the past, count how many months since new features such as api calls and site redesigns have have been implemented - Mike Chelen from IM

Congratulation to the FF team! You guys deserves this. I just hope that Facebook does not change the directions of FF. - Vinko

congrats, I'm happy for friendfeed... - amelia arapoff

Congrats you guys, well deserved. - Shey

I hope this means better integration: liking here will auto-like on fb and such :D if that's the case, I won't mind the ads *wink* *wink* - Ac0n (former Franc)

Franc, cant stand facebook ads in their current format, hope they will be fixed eventually :P - Mike Chelen from IM

Grats, dont spend it all in one place..... - Robert Higgins

congrads. I think it will be good for BOTH companies. - Logan Lindquist

boo. - kelly

The Borg has struck. Alas. Prepare to be assimilated. (Will FB add my FF subscriptions to my FB friends list?) - Dennis Jernberg

Boo - Amit Morson

Now that you guys have $$$ you should swap out the not so very pleasing default avatar! - See-ming Lee 李思明 SML

BOO! Hiss! Mondays really do suck. - Dale

Congratulations to all the FriendFeed team. I hope you'll be able to keep the FriendFeed spirit up at Facebook. Kudos for all the great work you've been doing. - Paul Papadimitriou

Congrats and good luck.. - Can Koklu

Thanks for all the fish. Saving the so long... for now. - abacab

Goodbye FF, it was wonderful.. - Francesco Cugurra

I use FriendFeed and Facebook so it would be awesome to see FF features in Facebook. Congratulations! - krzychukula from IM

judging by the nearly 600 comments as i type this, including my own earlier one, FF could use a Don't Like button as well. or would, if we were going to be using it much longer. - kelly

Nice, i like to wish you all the best for your new job (and it's really hard, i know). I'm happy, but... don't let die FF!! - ''Ignobile''

Hope FriendFeed remains open. Love the spirit of FF - Bernaldo Barrena

Seriously, what a coincidence! Just on Saturday I claimed to be both twitter- and facebook-free. I loved FF product and personally helped to bring at least a dozen of my friends into the community. I'll stick around for a while though. - ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ

This deal makes sense, now fb developers do not need to figure out how ff does it because they can just ask! Congrats facebook and ff! - Garin Kilpatrick

I suppose Facebook had to do it, with Twitter and Google Wave as competitor... - Alexander Kruel

обычные дела. http://www.youtube.com/watch... - ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ

Congratulations Friendfeed :D - paniaguai

Ok. I'll quit friendfeed, so. Goodbye. Ciao - valerio fiandra from iPhone

I am noticing a lot of people going to re-esumate their lifestream.fm account now! - Flavio

I don't think FB acquiring FF is bad. But I don't think it's good either. We'll see. :-) In the meantime, keep up the good work! - Alexander Gieg

How long until ex-FriendFeed employees start jumping ship from Facebook? I wonder... - Tyson Key

Thomas Power still believes that Facebook/FF/Linkedin (2010) will be acquired by Apple (2011) and this is a transitional acquisition in the SN market cycle. The world is shifting to Mac, iTunes, iPhones and FB own the next generation. Apple have $29bn of cash on deposit price is not an issue. Google must jump for twitter while MS fiddle in the sticks with Yahoo. BillG will be back at the MS helm 2012. - Penny Power

:( Happy for FF people, sad for the service. Was going to move from fb to ff this week.. - Martynas

congrats! - Ronald

thts good!so i can workin both in my Fb online next - Arini dewi muchtaram

Flavio: never heard of lifestream.fm before, but I'm going to go check it out. I'll reiterate, though, that I'm now shy of any service like this, since it can disappear just as it's getting good. I heard about sweetcron.com last night (via http://ff.im/6pR2w). Maybe it's time to move from centralized to distributed again. - Don Faulkner

Just finished setting up my lifestream.fm at http://lifestream.fm/dfaulkner. Lifestream does what it says, and no more. FF's search blows lifestream away. FF is more flexible about adding source feeds, but lifestream does fine without the flexibility I suppose. FF still wins, or would, if I thought it would be sticking around. :P - Don Faulkner

Must See - Hitler blows up over Facebook / FriendFeed - http://friendfeed.com/dffrnt... - Ahsan Ali

Dave, I'm not happy. That video gave me some much needed comic relief .. after waking up to this news. - Ahsan Ali

good for you, bad for us - Zachary Earl Strader

I also hate facebook, not because of their silly quizzes and pokes, but because I suspect they would like to maintain massive user base as the determining factor in choosing a social network. I would love to switch to orkut as I use so many other google services, but I can't because nobody else does. That should not be my criteria.... I thought friendfeed would try to make social networks work together. - Ru Viljoen

I don't understand why everyone is so negative about the situation? - orionstarr

@orionstarr - it's like Starbucks buying your neighborhood coffee shop and saying it still cares about the customers. You know it's just not going to be the same as what you've come to love. - Robin Barooah

Presumably FF will go on the back burner - and the team will try and "fix" Facebook. - Tim Tyler

sad, sad, sad. - scott willeke

Congratulations! That's huge. I hope all is well. - Juan Bruce

bad bad bad - kakilang

bye bye friendfeed! - Jonathan Crossland

Why-eee!!! ??? What next? - Wayne Lewis

I've watched Facebook morph from a relatively organised and well implemented social networking tool into the hulking mess it is now - and I really, really hope that a similar thing doesn't happen here with the inevitable changes this will bring about. - Leslie Moore

Come on guys, out with the long-term game plan, this is tedious. - Andrew Eglinton

NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I mean Cool. - sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>

Teach Facebook how to be FriendFeed. Let the small but fast teach the big but slow. Don't forget what Paul says - don’t be evil. - whatidiscover

Friendfeed is not as huge as Facebook but you're doing such terrible work on it. Friendfeed is facing so many many problems these days though facebook doesn't seem to have one. Why? - Sing For Absolution

+ - حُسین آفلاین

Never commented on this post. 2.5 years later, from a purely selfish persepective, the best thing that ever happened. It allowed me to drop out of the "Which social network is best", Scobilian crap and get down to the main reason I'm here... to communicate with my friends and share experiences. - Johnny

Funny. Two years later to the day, Rochelle took me to court to sign our temporary divorce papers. The day after my birthday in both cases. Huzzah! - Akiva

There's nothing new under the sun. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!

Paul Buchheit

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That's nice. Just random, or in response to something. :) - τorƍue

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Does that mean you got a little sleep? - Anne Bouey

Good news? People like Paul don't usually get in the office so early especially after a lack of sleep, on a Monday morning, if there wasn't a great reason. - Louis Gray

this could be big. - vijay

Aww Man, see now I am not going to get any sleep tonight! DAMN YOU PAUL and your teasing little smiley face. OK, must go and get some coffee! - travispuk

O.k., I'll smile too :) (and open my ears and eyes) - Martha

10 bucks says that they add emoticons soon. :) - Joe Beda

This emoticon makes a little more sense now... - Stephen Foskett

Guessing this was about the Facebook announcement? - Ben Hedrington

Cheshire cat? - Hutch Carpenter

Good for you, Paul. I can't help but feel a little let down, though. - Matthew Gifford

well done! - michael sean wright

Congrats! Let us (well, our chef) cook you lunch before you're no longer walking distance! :) - Don MacAskill

I have the same feeling as Matthew Gifford... Congrats to you, Paul, but I'm not sure this bodes well for the rest of us. - Lindsay

Congrats, Paul. :-) - Jordan Hofker

Congratulations! - Ethan Herdrick

Congratulations to the whole team, Paul! - Ryan Kuder

yeah they signed away the community :(- - Peter Dawson

Congrats Paul if they're truely in order :) - Jason Cronkhite from iPhone

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - andy brudtkuhl

congrats to the team, but to be honest i'm not liking it at all - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

Good news or bad news? :) - Arda Çetin

Congrats Paul! I was really hoping this would happen. Friendfeed and Facebook need each other. Cheers! - Akshay Dodeja

Now I get it. Congrats on the $$. - Yolanda

Now I know...and knowing is half the battle - Bwana ☠

:( - TiTi

Congratulations!!!! A 'worthy' smiley ... ;-) - Bo Stern

I think Paul's emoticon was charming and that Louis Gray is either super discerning or super informed. - Michael Muller

Congrats to the FF team you guys are awesome (keep this place awesome) - Ryan

WHAT'VE YOU DONE!!!! THAT'S TOTALLY SH*T! - Alp B.

http://bit.ly/jC1DE - Bo Stern

congratulations, may your road ahead be smooth... - Nathan Chase

That can imho only mean good things for the FB UI ... - Bo Stern

Congratulations, definitely. - DGentry

congrats! - Peter Warnock

Congrats to you and the entire FF team. I hope you guys are in it for the long haul. - Mike Doeff

hey congrats to the FF team! I look forward to seeing what the future holds - (jeff)isageek

Congratulations Paul & FF team! - Charles Ying

congrats dude - Jason Pollock

:( - Alex Scrivener

Congratulations. - Antoniu

congratulations.. but liked the whole UI & funtionality of ff than fb!! it'll b gone!! - Gtp19

You're totally ::stpd:: - Alp B.

its business after all, sell it but get back to make a better product for your old users. dont 4get the users !! - Peter Dawson

http://friendfeed.com/sunipey... - sunipeyk

:( - acedanger

the results of good work - Juan Pablo Ruiz

congratulations! - Hareesh Nagarajan

Congrats! - DS

GZ! - Sarp

:) we will learn from the process - abdellah

Paul, will you respond to this? This is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but distracted by Facebook and with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone. Middle of the road: Facebook forces its ads into the timeline and friendfeed starts acting like Facebook by ignoring its users. - tollie williams

@tollie, I imagine Paul's ability to respond is now constrained, which is just one of the changes we'll see coming. There's new management in town, folks. - Ken Kennedy

scared!!! - abdellah

Good luck Paul... it's gonna be a great partnership. - Andrew

Congrat's Paul. Great news, and I'm really happy for all of you! - Michael Fidler

Congrats to the whole FriendFeed team! - John McCrea

Way to go Paul - bet you sleep like a baby tonight whilst Biz and Ev scratch their heads once more! - Jan Simmonds

Sure congrats to you!!! - susan mernit

http://friendfeed.com/markzuk...... Hold on! markzukerberg?!?! - Lora Lufark

Congrats! - fbrunel

congratulations! - Loic Le Meur

Congratulations Paul - I am very proud of you... no wonder you couldn't sleep! :) Now we know why! As you know, I am a huge fan of your FriendFeed product. I am very happy for you guys and hope you keep your fabulous culture of innovation going strong. This is really amazing.... nice exit! :) - Susan Beebe

I have been wishing facebook could get more like Friendfeed :) awesome. - Christian Burns from iPhone

Nice job, Paul and team. Congrats! - Rob Shillingsburg

many congrat. from UK. ;) @GarethWong - Gareth

I bet you never forget your anniversary EVER ever now. - Pete D

boo-urns - Vezquex

:D - paniaguai

:-( - Jannifer @wordsforliving

Congratulations, great for you and the team. - Rocky

i like the way the deal was done! - Siddharth Parmar

G.Z.s - Ugur Akdmr

Robert Scoble

Who has the best SEO/SEM info? Post URLs here:

April 19, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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Google webmaster blog is well-known as reputable: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/ - Matt Cutts

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Live has a good webmaster blog too: http://blogs.msdn.com/webmast... Their most recent post about getting out of the penalty box is quite good. - Matt Cutts

It is important to get back to the basics once in awhile and I am rebuilding my blog from the foundation up, which is why I am asking. - Robert Scoble

Is SEO/SEM still relevant? - Mona Nomura

Google also just started a video channel for webmasters: http://www.youtube.com/GoogleW... Over 30+ videos already up to answer common questions. - Matt Cutts

I'm a big fan on http://www.seobook.com (Aaron Wall) and http://highrankings.com (Jill Whalen) - Jason Kane

Thanks Matt! Does anyone have a good checklist? - Robert Scoble

The Yahoo equivalent is the Yahoo! Search blog: http://ysearchblog.com/ - Matt Cutts

SEO Book: http://www.seobook.com AND SEOMoz: http://www.seomoz.org - Vinny

http://blackwaterops.com - Brandon Wirtz

I am not shocked that a Google employee was the first to answer this, by the way. - Robert Scoble

@Mona: ...can you expand on your question? What has made optimizing content and Web sites for search engines less relevant? - .LAG liked that

The only SEO that has been able to show me actual results is http://NowSourcing.com - MarkCarras

SEOmoz for sure. - mjc

@virante.com (http://www.virante.com/seo-too...) - Mark Traphagen

Mona: yes. Techcrunch tells me 60% of it's traffic comes from search. - Robert Scoble

http://centuryhouse.net/ upcoming SEO Blog - Robert Enriquez

This post will open the floodgates. Another vote for SEOMoz here however - Mo Kargas

Let's see. There's my blog of course: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/ . For search news, Search Engine Land is quite comprehensive: http://searchengineland.com/ . I often check Google Blogoscoped http://blogoscoped.com/ or Google Operating System http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/ for other interesting news. - Matt Cutts

Robert -- while not a one place checklist, visit http://forums.digitalpoint.com/. I've implemented some of their recommendations thus far and I feel like it's already making a difference. - Aanarav Sareen

I've recently heard Google changed their algorithm, plus with aggregating sites indexing for us (FriendFeed, Facebook, Twitter), there are many outlets and methods of people reaching our media -- that is, if we remember to segregate to keep various audiences interested. ie: staying away from ping.fm like services. - Mona Nomura

And then there's the HTML documentation that we offer for webmasters: http://google.com/support... plus our help forum http://www.google.com/support... - Matt Cutts

Thanks, Robert. - Mona Nomura

I'll let other folks suggest additional outside info. There's everything from Eric Goldman who talks about legal aspects of search http://blog.ericgoldman.org/ to SEO by the Sea http://www.seobythesea.com/ which talks about patents related to SEO/SEM/search. It's a really broad field. It's almost like asking "What are some good sources for information about blogging?" :) - Matt Cutts

What a timely question Robert :) I'm just studying up on this whole subject for my own site, and didn't really know where to start. Nice - guruvan (Rob Nelson)

Yes, another vote for SEOmoz here. This checklist is pretty comprehensive: http://www.seomoz.org/dp... - Craig Bailey

Must read SEO blog: http://www.thegooglecache.com/ - Mark Traphagen

"Does anyone have a good checklist?" We wrote an SEO beginner's guide at http://googlewebmastercentral.... that I proofread before it went live. You can also do searches like [wordpress seo guide] and there are several good resources in the search results. - Matt Cutts

http://delicious.com/search... - Jay Neff

Mona, Yes. something like 90% of all traffic starts with a search engine, so unless you are a destination site ,you rely on search to send your traffice. There are times when RSS Subs can be more valuable, like when you are doing loyalty building, but generally NEW users are finding you through a social media or through search. More people are in search than social media..Ergo its still relevant - Brandon Wirtz

Aanarav, I would recommend some caution regarding Digital Point. Some of the more aggressive stuff that gets pitched in corners of DP can get you in trouble. - Matt Cutts

I am a fan of Search Engine Guide http://www.searchengineguide.com Great advice and solid writers. - Ross Dunn

The sites listed here are (mostly) excellent for sure. I'm also kinda partial to the SEO Success Pyramid (since I wrote it). http://www.smallbusinesssem.com/the-seo... - Matt McGee

I'm adding all these to http://delicious.com/jayneff... thanks! :) - Jay Neff

TR: http://www.seoteknikleri.com , http://delicious.com/wolkanc... - Volkan Yılmaz

Of course Google is going to be the Dali Lama of SEO but there are many gurus of interest: http://www.searchengineacademysc.com - Laurel LaFlamme

Not that I'm biased, but LinkMoses http://www.ericward.com/article... and the Link Building Best Practices QandA http://www.ericward.com/bestpra... are on my must read list. - Eric Ward

@seomoz great docs, great tools, and a fun and informative blog & community - Julie Bovee Hill

Interesting how few SEOs seem to hang out on FF. On Twitter this would be a massive swarm of link dropping. - Matt Cutts

For WordPress I recommend http://www.yoast.com - Erno Hannink

Matt: this went to Twitter too. I have good PR's on both friendfeed and Twitter. - Robert Scoble

What about excellent content? Is that still important? I mean, useful material for human beings? Shouldn't that be well ranked by search engines? And of course, a usable and web standards compliant site. - Alexis Bellido

me - chaz2b

Thanks Scoble! I've been looking for this info myself, actually. - Adam C.

http://www.seomoz.org/blog for technical specs on SEO and http://www.seobook.com/blog for business insights in relation to SEO - Dave Fuentes

Thanks for this list. It finally showed me that value of FriendFeed over Twitter and Facebook. Good answers. Rock on. :-) - Martin Seibert

I just want to mark this for building43 which I just did with this comment. Oh, I wish I had invisible comments to add metadata/metatags to items like this. - Robert Scoble

Leather: I never liked delicious. It isn't setup to have a conversation like what happened here. - Robert Scoble

Leather: when I search friendfeed for building43 I want this post to come up. Here, take a look: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... No need to create another item in delicious. - Robert Scoble

www.SEOmoz.org, www.SEObook.com , www.SEOquake.com and also www.webpagefx.com is quite useful. - Hayk

As Alexis Bellido says, "a usable and web standards compliant site." I recommend http://www.w3.org for brushing up on the compliance side of things (even if it gets a bit technical). It's the standards by which the web runs, from the horses mouth, so to speak. - David August

You may want to try #Neil_Patel & his #Quick_Sprout outfit http://www.quicksprout.com/about... See his post: "How to Optimize Your Blog for Search Engines" http://bit.ly/JeXq1 - informative & good free advice. I've been digging into this subject myself for the benefit of a product one of my companies is incubating and this chap and his firm keeps rising to the top of my list. I am also fairly certain that he will advise you for free in return for a good word to your "subjects" ;) @AAinslie - Alexander Ainslie

This post and more importanly the timeline of the replies are in and of themselves useful as a measure of which SEO/SEOm firms are paying attention online. Not that this is an automatic measure of capability or quality, but you gotta question how good any site is that doesn't link drop on this particular post, be it a self drop or otherwise, given who the author was/is. I*'m, amazed there haven't been more. This might be tell us a thing or two about FF and the SEO community. - Eric Ward

Just a comment regarding Digital Point, they commonly recommend greyhat/blackhat techniques, and offer lots of stupid stuff for a price. The same advice can be had for free on BlackHatWorld.com. Information wants to be free. ;) - Lee Ingram

http://www.seobook.com with Aaron I rate highly, digital-point is probably a good place for short term success on splogs but nothing sustainable long term for a proper business. - Mark Edmondson

If this is about your blog vs SEO in general, that's a bit different. For blog SEO you might try Aaron's lengthy article on SEO for bloggers, http://www.seobook.com/blogger... Joost DeValk's Blog http://www.yoast.com or Matt Cutts favorite commentator: http://www.wolf-howl.com - Lee Odden

Some of my favorite WordPress SEO recommendations are from Yoast: http://yoast.com/article... - and this is an outstanding presentation on WordPress Blog SEO: http://wordpress.tv/2009... - Don Campbell

Eric, thanks for your offerings. I think that maybe the lack of SEO people here may be down to the fact that we are all working hard implementing all these techniques for our clients. There are plenty of SEO companies who merely do the work, rather than write down what they are doing and share with the rest. http://dragonsearchmarketing.com/blog... , the shop I work at part time is running really hard right now, with 3 new hires in the last 2 months. - Mark Zip

As to the reflection on the Ff community, perhaps that is because FF is bleeding edge and most work in the trenches of SEO is being done short of the bleeding edge, where there are more "regular" folks. - Mark Zip

Just joined StomperNet . Not a plug as I am still new with them (1 Week) http://stomping2.com/ and would like to know how others view them. They provide very detailed info through video. Seem to have an impressive staff on board. They are a paid subscription but think it is worth it so far. Would especially like to hear what Matt Cutts has to say about them. Should I cancel my subsription or not? - Jonathan

Jonathan: I know some of the StomperNet folks, they are very smart. - Robert Scoble

It does feel special to be using this service and be so connected in such a varitey of topics. Just tried the similar search (after reading comments on Matt Cutts ff) and did my usual search to see how a system works. http://similar-images.googlelabs.com/images... Need to get more non naked pics going :) - Jonathan

Jonathan, that would be a longer conversation than the FF textbox has room for. - Matt Cutts

Confidential SEO Secrets Book (down to earth and real). ;-) http://www.allenharkleroad.com/Home... - Allen Harkleroad

Matt Cutts, should i use them or not? Are they doing harm? I am trying to learn but not move into the black hat. - Jonathan

Various guys: Seobook, seomoz, www.searchandsocial.com - Il gareth in Milano

Black hat is an attitude. - Il gareth in Milano

http://yoast.com/article... - Sprague D

Killer SEO / SEM info for Small Businesses http://www.flowtown.com/blog :p - Ethan Bloch

SEOMoz is good, Seobook is good, I would also recommend WebmasterWorld as well. Supporters area on WebmasterWorld has some of the best minds hanging out there... - Bill Hartzer

Robert - The most recent article I did on free SEO resources is here: http://anzman.blogspot.com/2009... Hope it helps! Charlie - Charlie Anzman

Here's a bunch. http://www.seomoz.org, http://www.seobythesea.com, http://www.mattcutts.com, http://www.searchengineland, http://www.searchenginejournal, http://yoast.com, http://www.seobook.com, http://www.seoptimise.com, http://www.thegooglecache.com, http://seo2.0.onreact.com, http://wiep.net and of course http://www.blindfiveyearold.com or look at my delicious bookmarks http://delicious.com/ajkohn2... - AJ Kohn

I found http://www.waferscale.com as the best website which provides meaningful and easy to understand articles on SEO - Xelios

now if you have a CIALS site the above would be like a fart in a Gail,not much of an impression. - tomartomartini

bitkisel alışveriş www.reyonist.com - trktu

http://www.seohocasi.com/ Seo Hocası the best seo site. - Kaan Gülten (SeoHocasi)

http://www.seoaktif.com - Kaan Gülten (SeoHocasi)

this two site in TR (Turkey) - Kaan Gülten (SeoHocasi)

http://forum.turkiyemuzik.net korg pa800 yamaha roland - turkiyemuzik

http://www.eglenceli.net eglenceli - turkiyemuzik

G3 Creative Solutions http://www.g3creative.co.uk - G3 CREATIVE

http://sor.seohocasi.com/ - Kaan Gülten (SeoHocasi)

http://www.bilgispot.blogspot.com - Gamze Ozturk

http://www.pctekno.net - Bilgisayar Haberleri

http://kiloalmayontemleri.blogspot.com/ - Fullnet

Alanında uzman seo eğitmenleri tarafından sürekli olarak yeni tekniklerin paylaştığı seo üzerine tam anlamıyla uzmanlaşmış kişiler tarafındano oluşturulan http://www.seohocasi.com/ adresini seo hakkında merak edilenleri ögrenmek istiyorsanız tavsiye ederim. - Mustafa Söner

Türkiye Süper Lig maç özetlerini takip edebilirsiniz. http://www.eglenceli.net/kategor... - eglencelinett

Check out http://forseoinfo.com/ a useful resource for search engine optimization tactics and strategies. - Matt Morgan

Alberto Gonzalez

I want my 15 minutes of anonymity. - http://www.flickr.com/photos...

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Sorry Scoble, it isn’t over for Windows Mobile or Nokia in the US | Smartphones and Cell Phones | ZDNet.com - http://blogs.zdnet.com/cell-ph...

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Antonio Ortiz

¿Tiene sentido vender un blog “personal” ? - http://www.tecnorantes.com/2009...

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Thomas Hawk

breaking news: Steve Jobs stepping down from CEO at Apple due to health. Medical leave of absence until the end of June.

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COO Tim Cook to be responsible for day to day. - Thomas Hawk

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at least a 5 month hiatus for Jobs. - Thomas Hawk

I'd scream "FAKE", but it's Thomas Hawk. - Ben Parr

oh my - look for my $ to go down the tubes tomorrow! - planetMitch

SELL! SELL! - Daniel J. Pritchett

Nope - 5 month leave of absence - for health reasons - Brian Roy

Source? - Faramarz Hashemi

Twitter just borked - Hutch Carpenter

Ditto - where are you hearing or seeing this ? - Christopher Chan

FUCK - orionstarr

source: CNBC - Thomas Hawk

Uh-oh. In this economy Apple stock is going DOWN. - Roberto Bonini

Well, it's not like we didn't see this coming. - Derrick

analyst saying he expects stock to open at around $75 tomorrow down $10 from today's close. - Thomas Hawk

Wow. End of an era. - Tris Hussey

to be expected - Adri Munier

It's on CNBC and trading is halted on Apple stock. Whoa. - EricaJoy

Give it at least 2 years, and Jobs will force his way in again, and manage to oust his successor somehow... - Tyson Key

Anyone want to keep sayign it is non of our business how his health is? - Soulhuntre from twhirl

I'm sorry all - this is all my fault. This always happen when I buy some companies stock. - Andy Roth

Let the lawsuits begin... - Kevin (barely visible)

check out the "Steve Jobs Lives" t-shirt :) http://tcritic.com/archive... - karl

I was on Friendfeed when the world stopped turning - morten saxnaes

email jobs sent out to all apple employees today: http://in.sys-con.com/node... - Thomas Hawk

http://online.wsj.com/public... The breaking news banner. - mikepk

This is the end of an era. His health must be pretty bad at this point. I wish Apple would have just taken the "we don't comment on the health of our executives" position rather than lie and lie. - drew olanoff

:( what can you do. the company has been doing it's best to prolong the inevitable. there shouldn't be any panic in the market. - Faramarz Hashemi

This is certainly not a good sign for him. Apple will survive and likely thrive; he may not. - Karoli

Last time he stepped down apple went to crap I hear, I'm not happy at all. - orionstarr

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits... Reprint of the letter - mikepk

AAPL->SELL! :( - AJ Batac (/-_-)

Jim Goldman on CNBC quoting a tech industry executive as saying that Jobs health is dire and that Jobs is in denial. - Thomas Hawk

you guys are funny - Josh Haley

Goldman is a moron and unreliable. - Mona Nomura

Who is Steve Jobs? - Morgan

Will he be resuming the CEO post then, or just sit on the board when he returns at the end of June? - Chris Charabaruk

Steve's health isn't good -- anyone could see it. The exec moves over the past several months were removing contenders for the successor. Steve cultivated people with similar passions, but only one could win. Like Mac design. One ring to bind them all. It was Steve, now he won't be back. - Mitch Ratcliffe

I hate to be cavalier, but my Mac is still running and my iPhone still works too... Time will tell if the board learned from what happened last time Steve left. WE should also be aware that the circumstances were VERY different last time. - Brian Roy

so much for scoble's yogurt guy (ducking) - Dave Winer

OK folks, lets all take a pill and calm down. While there is no reason to think Jobs won't be back, Apple will survive without him. To say that Apple is going to fail without him is an insult to all the creative, intelligent people at Apple who actually design and build the products. - Kenton

CNBC says that the stock should reopen in extended trading in 10 minutes at 5pm EST. - Thomas Hawk

There´s a rumour Jobs may be back in a white bionic iSuit already in March at 110% strength ! buy... buy my stock.. nah. ;) (Seriously hope he´ll recover though, whenever). - ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ

Stock and geeky concerns aside, I gotta wish Jobs the best. - Tom Landini

Matthew - when you're done can I have Flash? EDIT: Mona rightly points out that this was a tactless comment. Oops. - Daniel J. Pritchett

I agree with @Kenton, Apple isn't only Jobs. - Thom Allen

For investment purposes, people have to assume he won't be back, because a week ago he said he wasn't going anywhere. But agree with Landini, I wish Steve a long healthy life. - Mitch Ratcliffe

+++ Matthew - Josh Haley

This man is ILL and you guys are discussing FLASH ON A PHONE? Are you KIDDING ME? - Mona Nomura

This is the next move in a series of calculated plans to have Steve step down. 5 months will be permanent. - Spencer

I think it has been pretty crummy how Apple has bene trying to hide this from investors, so now many of them are blindsided. I hope Steve recovers but frankly Apple needs to ditch him now... no one can trust anythign Apple says about him. - Soulhuntre from twhirl

Jobs become obsolete - Talent prevails (Ad on msnbc.com a couple of days back, truly not my words.) - Tomi Itkonen

Damn. In the end this won't matter at all. Hoping for the best personally for His Jobness though! - Mike Flynn

There is a time and place to discuss certain things. The thread is about Steve Jobs, his health, and him stepping down to go on medical leave. That is like going to a funeral and small talking about the person who passed away's funeral expenses. Disgusting and tactless. - Mona Nomura

watch'in it on tv, shitty :( - videopixil

Apple stock opening now. Trading around 76. - Thomas Hawk

On search.twitter.com/?q=Steve%20Jobs you can only go back to &page=100 (100 pages back chronologically) and the oldest tweet I could see had a link to Thomas' FF post right here where we're all commenting. - Micah

$76.60 down -$11.21 real time. - Thomas Hawk

stock coming back a bit. down $8.72 now at $78.80. - Thomas Hawk

I'm getting to this thread late -- is it known that he has Pancreatic cancer? - Marko Bon

Part of Steve's problem is he is not getting enough protein. Somebody get him a steak stat! - gfurry

damn, fight on cnbc too - videopixil

Are you really asking for permission? Or looking to e-fight? -- rhetorical, which means you don't have to answer. Clearly you have no tact, so this conversation is done (from my end). Carry on. - Mona Nomura

how can i buy some apple stocks? - hector juarez

hector juarez, just what i was wondering. never bought stocks/shares before. - Simon Wicks

Breaking news: Apple stock plummets! - Tamar Weinberg

Great all my Apple stock down the drain! - Sweyn Venderbush

I don't really worry about occasional dropped stocks. It will go back up again. We're in a recession anyway... the stock was naturally better in August. - Tamar Weinberg

Tsega: it's not sad. It's human. I know Michael Jordan. How about Tiger Woods. Barack Obama? Superstars cause stuff to happen. - Robert Scoble

That's why there is a "face of the company" position. I hope for a speedy recovery... - Anthony Farrior

If a person is ill, but otherwise neurologically intact, does that really mean they can't make decisions anymore? Not in my professional opinion. - Victor Ganata

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1... - is this news. - yodhe

it's probably good for Jobs that this news is out. Not having to hide his health anymore means that's one big stressful thing to be out from under. Hopefully now that this news is out he can distance himself a bit from the intense scrutiny I'm sure he's been under and work on getting his health back. - Thomas Hawk

Direct: http://www.apple.com/pr... - Nick Humphries

I guess he hasn't been eating his apples. - Tanath

Wow… "eating his apples"? :D That's quite creative. - Daniel Schildt

Juan Luis

Steve Jobs hace publico su pequeño problema de salud para asi cortar de raiz los rumores. Se nota que lo hace a disgusto, pero ha sido muy clarito. - http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews...

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ahi lo publique en uberbin; es impresionante como está atada la acción a la salud de este tipo. - Mariano Amartino

Luis Rull

Google Syntax Highlighter for WordPress - http://wordpress.org/extend...

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martin varsavsky

Every hour a new person follows me on twitter. This puts pressure on me. Pressure goes away though, when I read what others twit :)

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Pablo Corral

ForumW.org :: aXXo (2008) Movies Collection [Daily Updated!] - http://www.forumw.org/viewtop...

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Appetite: TheHenry

DeskLickr - Flickrize your Mac desktop! - http://desklickr.isnot.tv/#

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"DeskLickr grabs all its Desktop images from Flickr, while giving you all the options to grab photos from your profile, tag searches or even the DeskLickr group filled with hand selected Desktop goodness!" Similar to Desktoptopia- Personally I like Desktoptopia better - TheHenry from Bookmarklet

oh ok, I thought that was something else - sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>

Thanks for the Desktoptopia ref... Excellent app! - Mark Philpot

Eduardo Arcos

Cuanta estupidez y falta de conocimiento se puede leer por Twitter. Me pone malgenio. Voy a tener que limpiar mi lista de contactos.

December 25, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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mejor seguilos en friendfeed! ;-) - Christian Van Der Henst

El botón "unfollow" no está demasiado muy lejos - gabo

Mauro A. Fuentes

La Tejedora » Blog Archive » Entre la pastelería y la tecnología - http://www.latejedora.es/...

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Designers Who Design Things: imabonehead

London announces that Aston Martin has winning bus design - http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008...

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"...a surprising contender has emerged from an unlikely source: Aston Martin. The manufacturer of beautiful, high-end supercars is apparently branching out to people movers, and we like what we see. The concept calls for a zero-emission drivetrain, but we're unsure of what, exactly, that means. We do see that solar panels have been placed on the roof, so this thing might be electric or a hybrid." - imabonehead from Bookmarklet

Marilín Gonzalo

Best Typography Motions - http://dezignus.com/typogra...

December 13, 2008 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

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David Casado

Todos los vuelos del mundo, en 1 minuto [vídeo] - http://despuesdegoogle.com/2008...

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Robert Scoble

#leweb startup highlights: http://popego.com/ looks at your Twitter and other social networking behavior and tells you stuff about it.

December 9, 2008 from Twitter - Comment - Like - Share

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Nice !!! - Jose Villar

got an account, liking it so far. - ernie yacub

sorry, didn't get it at all - Jorge Escobar

Christian Van Der Henst

Santiago Siri nos charla de Popego y de su experiencia en el TC50 y LeWeb - http://www.maestrosdelweb.com/editori...

December 10, 2008 from Maestros del Web - Comment - Like - Share

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Bret Taylor

There is an easter egg in today's launch. Maybe it is too early, but I am surprised I haven't seen many posts about it yet :)

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*goes to find it* - AJ Batac (/-_-)

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Bret, you ruined the surprise. Were you that kid who opened his presents before Christmas morning? ;) - Ana

Great, I turned it on and now my my brain is hurting as I try to turn it off :P - Patrick Lightbody

The world needs more easter eggs! - Ben Hedrington

Funny, but painful. - xero

Acually...to me it doesn't look any different. But I work on pattern recognition, not literal translations - Stephen Pierzchala

Made my eyes hurt! Upside down AND backwards! - Jean Ann Van Krevelen from twhirl

Oh man, I shouldn't have done that. - Hutch Carpenter

It's funny, but I can't use it without waiting for a headache. - Bibi

what do you mean "use it"? where are going to "look" for this??? - Rob Sellen :o)

*huntin' for wabbit!!!* Ah ha! the language selection... awesome!! what a cool idea!! - Susan Beebe

I included Upside Down in the screenshot, but didn't go into detail. - Louis Gray

cute. but why? UPDATE: OK, I kinda get why. You actually added some legitimate new language(s), right? - Laura Norvig

I found it--very fun! And Ana, you are absolutely right. Bret can't keep a secret at all. He not only tried to open presents before Christmas morning but would search the house for them when I was at work. - Sheila Taylor

Wacky. I love it. - David Bisset (sn)

... - Johnny

(: - Pete D

Tana Ligato

@amartino Cuando las cosas van bien, nada más placentero que agrandar el equipo ;)

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Andrea

verga.... no me jodan... que feas las de naked news!!! la mas fea parece travesti :-S un-cool

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no importa, es tan feo que es cool - Eduardo Arcos

Damian Voltes

2008 = 1931 - http://damianvoltes.com/2008...

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Dave Winer

The space between Twitter and FriendFeed (Scripting News) - http://www.scripting.com/stories...

December 7, 2008 from Bookmarklet - Comment - Like - Share

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"I believe that there is space between Twitter and FriendFeed for a service that's dumber than FriendFeed and richer than Twitter." - Dave Winer from Bookmarklet

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This definitely deserves more than just a Like :) - Nicola Quinn

I expect this piece to be very popular here on FF, but not so popular on Twitter. :-) - Dave Winer

However, if you read it carefully, you'll see that it's not FF that I want -- it's too much. But it has features I don't want to give up. - Dave Winer

I think as long as there continue to be third party apps that fill in the missing pieces for Twitter there still won't be a mass migration over to Friendfeed. Which is too bad. I think I prefer FF too even though hardly any of my friends are on it. - Chinkerfly

I think that the other feature that is completely necessary is a way to view replies in context with the original tweet (like a threaded view). I understand the technical difficulties involved, but oh is that maddening. - invariant

I completly agree with what he says in the end : " I think a graphic and visual Twitter would kick ass". Oh and groups... I can haz groups IN twitter? (no 3rd app please)... - Tiago Jorge from Alert Thingy

Wasn't Pownce essentially a graphic and visual Twitter? Didn't kick much ass as I recall. - Brian Sullivan

I think trying to compare Twitter and FriendFeed is that whole apple/oranges thing. Twitter is basically public IM, whereas FriendFeed is a massive RSS reader. Just different ideas entirely. I am not sure if the connection between the two can or should be made. - Rob Diana

This is why I think discussion features are highly overrated: People don't read the piece they're commenting on. I would be in favor of a system that wouldn't let you comment until you answered a CAPTCHA type question that proved that you actually read the piece you're commenting on. Because people don't read before they write, basically you just keep having the same "conversation" over and over, with people repeating their standard talking point on a subject. - Dave Winer

BTW I did read the piece. Just because you say that Pownce doesn't fit your idea -- with no supporting evidence btw just an off hand remark doesn't make it so. - Brian Sullivan

Except, often comments are in response to other comments, not the original post (which I did read, but didn't need to to make this comment). - Kenneth LeFebvre

Okay I believe you read the piece, then I don't think your comment is accurate, I thought I did a pretty good job of anticipating this common response. Pownce certainly wasn't a good test of the idea, it was a lot more than I was asking for (as I said in the piece) and what I didn't say is that it had trouble staying up cause I didn't want to rub it in as it was going off the air. - Dave Winer

Why not just eliminate the echo chamber through the company you keep? - Eric Schwartzman

...and liberal use of Hide. - Tinfoil 2.0

How do you feel about the author apologizing for annoying you? Just checking in advance, because I want to make sure I don't further annoy you. :-) - Dave Winer

Of course it could be that you find the author checking in advance to be not just annoying but infuriating or condescending. It's so complicated. I'm so confused. :-) - Dave Winer

at least you weren't confused in comparing ff & Twitter - MaryAnn Chick Whiteside

I like the article as well -- the analogy seems succinct and appropriate. If you take it to its ultimate conclusion though .. what filled the gap between the Mac and MS DOS was ..... Windows. - Brian Sullivan

It's funny, I would have picked the mid point that added some kind of threading, but kept the 140 character limit and the URLs for media (it would be nice to have the URL separated from the 140 characters though so I don't need to keep dealing with tinyurl etc). - John

Correct. I wouldn't call either Twitter or FriendFeed anything more than first generation approximations of what people want. But leads built in the early part of a market have longevity. Apple got to make a lot of mistakes yet still was able to come back, over and over. - Dave Winer

Interesting framing. I think that for friendfeed to really compete with twitter, it would need @ support. I agree with your picture comment and am amazed as to why twitter does not have the ability to embed and display pictures and video link. This is one of the killer features of the facebook iphone app. Could facebook be the middle ground application you are describing? - Elisa

The analogy between DOS and GUI is a perfect one. Clear, succinct and right on the money. I had never thought to make that connection before. Obviously I'm biased as a photographer, but I think that the world is very much a visual place. This one aspect alone is what puts FF (and Pownce for that matter) head and shoulders above Twitter for me. FF is so much more than just images, but the images are powerful indeed. - Thomas Hawk

The problem with a new service coming in between Twitter and FF though is mostly time. FF in some ways is at a disadvantage to Twitter because of first mover advantage, even with a better mousetrap they are a less popular service (so far, time will tell). The longer any new service waits the harder it will be to succeed. Of course both Twitter and/or FF could morph into the type of service that Dave is talking about. Maybe. - Thomas Hawk

Thomas, either one could morph toward that position, and I hope at least one of them does. On the other hand, eventually something new will come along. Windows and Mac weren't the last word on personal computers -- you have cell phones, and web servers, to name two extreme (most personal to most impersonal). And Google wasn't the last word on search either -- Facebook has search in it and now Google is struggling to catch them (and I'm pretty sure they won't). FB also found a way to compete with mail... - Dave Winer

...and I'm sure no one thought that mail could be competed with. In other words no need goes unserved forever but it can be delayed by a dominant player. Too bad, in retrospect, that FF didn't challenge Twitter when they were having all the outages. There was a rare moment of vulnerability, the kind of oppty that's not likely to come again. - Dave Winer

Dave, I agree with your comment about that window of opportunity that existed when twitter had all that downtime. Even Pownce had an opportunity to do something during that period time to make it become a serious contender and instead just kind of went about it's business. It's frustrating because Pownce could have been so much more than it was. - Jonathan Hardesty

The analogy is stretched. There's no "full circle", you're just talking about the same design issues that have plagued product developers since the beginning of time, and picking DOS/Mac as your analogy overstates the importance of Twitter. I also personally don't see any reason why Facebook and/or Pownce don't fit this "in between" service you're talking about, other than the latter's failure to get any traction. - Eric P

And someone...will inevitably...find a way....to fill that space. - Adriana

At this point in time for me, the difference feels like Twitter is akin to tapped-out telegraph messages bouncing around at high speed, whereas FriendFeed is a go-around-the-table commentary swarmed around an exhibit (at variable speeds). - Micah

Twitter is just Twitter. If anyone looks for something else, then go ahead and choose another service. Feature creep is the first step to kill a perfectly good app. Friendfeed, jaiku, tumblr, they all have their uses but Twitter excels at conversations, it's not supposed to be media centric. - Armando Alves

I wonder if Dave has tried Rejaw.com - Tokyo Dan

Friendfeed is still in its early stages, I would say still in the Alpha phase. The "something in between" you're expecting may be a future version of FF. For me the only thing FF lacks to reach that stage would be a mobile interface, something for posting quickly and on the go. I know there are some tools out there, but I need something like Twitterberry (I'm a Blackberry user) or similar with the advantages of FF. If this thing happens and is fully usable, then FF will blow Twitter away. - Jordi Soler

What if you could talk to FriendFeed's database in real English and say something like this: "Please build me a view with no Likes; no Comments; No More menu of all my friends feed items that have two or more Likes and/or two or more Comments." Wouldn't that be the "in between space" that Dave is talking about? I've been asking for those kinds of features since February 2008. I will bet $100 that FF will take off after adding those kinds of features. - Robert Scoble

Yes! After using FriendFeed a lot over the last few days I am really craving that type of feature set. - Mike Flynn

The problem is that Twitter has already defined microblogging. The other services are already considered clones, and need more features in order to compete. The only way we really get something in between is when some application is able to reply to people at Twitter and build the needed functionality on top. FriendFeed has some of it, but it is mostly one-way replies. Bidirectional replies is needed, plus the obvious grouping and threading that everyone seems to want. - Rob Diana

eduo

Steve Jobs sleeps like baby after Nokia World - http://scobleizer.com/2008...

December 6, 2008 from Google Reader - Comment - Like - Share

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Raul Hernández

Friendfeed, toda mi actividad en un mismo lugar - http://www.vidadeunconsultor.com/2008...

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afrael

Saben... Estaba pensando que después de tanto esperar y tanto hype, pues el disco de Chinese Democracy es.... malazo...

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Ricardo Galli

A Spanish Nokia responsible explained few days ago that they don't spend much money in on-line ads because they get enough inviting bloggers to demos or sending them a gadget. Lot of blogs are talking about N97 today. Shoting our own feet?

December 2, 2008 - Comment - Like - Share

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nada que no se supiese.... - Juan Luis

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Mira vos, son la empresa de moviles que mas gasta en online ads, en offline BTL y en AdSense "Site Oriented" para blogs.... o sea que esa afirmacion es medio "arriesgada" por no decir "ridicula" ¿que hacen los bloggers con mucho trafico? Les bloquen el AdSense :) - Mariano Amartino

Mariano, dice que "no gastan mucho" , no que no gasten, y que no sean posiblemente los que mas gastan. Si los blogs no aceptaran gadgets o hablaran por obligacion de los lanzamientos, seguro que gastaban mas. - Juan Luis

Pero al final, los blogs comerciales viven tambien de eso... - Juan Luis

si, seguro que deberian gastar mas... pero creo que igualmente al ver que se habla del resto deben gastar para no perder presencia cuando los otros lanzan... igual, por eso hay que bloquearlos de AdSense ;) - Mariano Amartino

la misma razón por la que no vemos a Apple invirtiendo fuertemente en campañas online. - Christian Van Der Henst

eduo

Curvas perfectas de Ana Gabriela Espinoza Marroquín - http://www.exonline.com.mx/...

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Como la entrada no tiene foto que lo demuestre, algo imperdonable y que nos demuestra lo pobre del periodismo actual, ya me encargo yo de enlazar http://bit.ly/2UjM - eduo

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Felicidades Eduardo. - Ricardo Galli

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felicidades... con foto de rock star y todo .. fue un gusto conocerte :) - Mariano Amartino

Dicen que de los 30 a los 40 aún pasan más rápido. Felicidades! - José Luis Antúnez

30 tío.. Que viejo que te has puesto :) - Christian Van Der Henst

Muchas felicidades Earcos, pasa super - Pablo Miranda from twhirl

Felices 30.. - Leandro Ardissone ⍨

Calla! Ya te tocará a tí! :) El tiempo va muy rápido - Marilín Gonzalo

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