This is clearly not my cat. If this was my cat he's have one arm shoved down into the printer trying to tear up all the internal whirling bits with his bare claws.
- Soup
Too Funny! Reminds me of the San Mateo Cat Shelter where one of the cats loves to sleep on top of the laster printer where the paper comes out...
- Greg Lato
1600+ to beat the FFundercats live chat thread. I think with this real time now on all threads we're going to see some truly epic comment numbers.
- Simon Wicks
Ivan, no the picture speaks for itself. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Petr, I have no idea what you mean, but thank you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol .. :] that, partially, might have been the purpose.... I don't know it exactly either. :] .. was I reflecting on a cat under the fax, and that it is hard to fax that way ... /?:] ... "underfaxing at its worst" ..
- Petr Buben
there ya have me ! :] .... see, to be honest with you, i saw this pic couple days ago, but i let it go, without posting it ..... what does that make me? :]
- Petr Buben
even a flat cat... faxes just can't handle the hair. You'd have to shave the cat first, else the hair will burn and stick to the drum... a mess! (I am extrapolating from transparencies, mind, i don't have access to a cat to test)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Hehe, Joelle. This is now tied for the 'likes' top stop. One more then, hehe. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Hehe, Greg. Blimey! Erm, is that not far from 500 likes now? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Bloody marvelous, Kol. Wish I could like it again... too cute (and help u to 500 likes).
- Roberto Bonini
I couldn't believe it when I logged on from the morning over posting it and saw it was at something 200 likes! You all have a strange fetish with cats and fax machines, hehe. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Am I the only one who saw this and their first thought was - My goodness did someone break that cats neck? It still freaks me out a little
- Steve C
Steve, it does look a little out of place, but cats are pretty bendy. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
They fax much better if you flatten them first. What?
- Kevin Pedraja
So we can put this post to rest now. :-) 505 likes final count, wow! :-D Good night all!
- Kol Tregaskes
My like is the last one so far :) - 509 afaik
- getalifejerk
did 3 people really un-like this? now at 506. wtf (edit: uh, oh, yeah, me and 2 + 506 others makes 509. dammit, jim, i'm an artist, not a mathematician)
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
One of the best funny cat pictures I've seen! :-)
- John Collis
Kristian, it appears to be. Hehe, John.
- Kol Tregaskes
ای بابا این پیشول بی خیال نمی شود، بابا پاشو برو دنبال یه بازی دیگه ، از هفته پیش تا حالا تو فکس ولو شدی حوصله ات سر نرفته، پاشو اقلا بپر رو کیبوردی چیزی
- Maryaminaa
It's really only social convention which regards it as inappropriate, same with Xeroxing it, like one does with their b__tocks. Wait are we still talking about cats cats here or...
- sofarsoShawn
OMGosh 700+ likes now!! LOL. Thank you all 702 of you. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Isn't copyright law one where you have to show that you're actively defending, lest you lose it? It's a lawyer's dream. You can't be lax about it. Must defend.
- Phil Calvin
The worst part of this is that the trademark filing was only this past April. I am not sure if they will be able to use it against applications built prior to the filing. If they do attack apps like TweetDeck and Tweetie, then it will become obvious that they do not like their developers.
- Rob Diana
According to Leo Laporte Twitter doesn't even own the registered trademark for Twitter. Sounds like Twitter needs to decide *what* their trademark actually is. But yes, they have to defend it once they decide that.
- Jesse Stay
and your trademark doesn't have to be registered to exist - just has to be defended and identify your brand
- Jesse Stay
Am I just imagining things, or as recently as month or so ago weren't Ev, Biz, et al pretty much refusing to use the word "tweet". I always got the impression they were embarrassed by it.
- Ken Sheppardson
Does Twitter even have a General Counsel?
- Jesse Stay
You know, come to think of it, I don't remember even seeing "Tweet" being used until TweetDeck came about. Maybe the Trademark more rightfully belongs to TweetDeck?
- Jesse Stay
But strange trademarks are registered all the time. It would take lots of time and money to go to court and see what a judge would say.
- Pat Hawks
TweetDeck has some money - they could defend it, and seek damages as well
- Jesse Stay
Where's Iain Dodsworth on all this? Does he have any thoughts?
- Pat Hawks
Doesn't have to be a made up word to be a trademark. Just has to be distinctive in that industry, right?
- Pat Hawks
Owens-Corning has trademarked the color pink
- Pat Hawks
Regardless, I don't think Twitter wants to go down this road.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Okay. I'm going to chime in here. For a short while after college, I worked as a private investigator (yes, seriously) at a firm and we investigated trademarks. Pat and Sean are right; it has to be distinctive to that industry. In case you were wondering, my job was to privately seek out registered/filed TMs to see if that was indeed the case.
- Tamar Weinberg
Tamar that's awesome (you being a P.I.) I'm now imagining you in a Detroit Tigers hat. :-) So who has more right to the "Tweet" claim - TweetDeck or Twitter?
- Jesse Stay
Sean that's a different Trademark - that's when used in that manner in a song. Trademark has to be specific to your industry, as Tamar says.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I'm no lawyer; I simply did research and compiled legal reports. However, TweetDeck existed BEFORE the trademark was filed so chances are Twitter would NOT be able to usurp the name from them.
- Tamar Weinberg
I'm pretty sure TweetDeck was using the term, "Tweet" before anyone else, even Twitter. I think they claim right to it more than anyone.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, yes, I think they probably legally can. If you can show it has existed prior to the trademark filing, the new trademark owner probably will not be able to enforce it. One of the questions I asked when I investigated trademarks was when the product/service was first used. "First use" needs to be shown in the trademark app. The TWEET trademark filing by Twitter does not show a "first use" date, which is interesting.
- Tamar Weinberg
I think Twitter may be able to enforce that nobody uses the word "Tweet" from the time that Twitter filed the trademark app and onward, but it would not be ethical nor would it be legally enforceable, I believe, to force people to get rid of the names they'd been using forever PRIOR to the filing.
- Tamar Weinberg
p.s. if you're curious, the trademark serial number is 77715815. You can also access it here: http://tarr.uspto.gov/tarr.... The link in the TC comments doesn't quite work.
- Tamar Weinberg
Tamar, very interesting - I wonder if TweetDeck could sue Twitter now on basis of prior art
- Jesse Stay
I would argue I started using the term, "Tweet" because of TweetDeck, not Twitter. People have come to use it due to the use of the most popular Twitter client, not Twitter itself. I "Tweet" through TweetDeck. Everywhere else I just "Twitter".
- Jesse Stay
This is all beyond what I ever did -- it's definitely interesting. If Twitter threatens TweetDeck, they (TweetDeck) may have a leg to stand on. To be honest, I'd really need to find out if Twitter could actually *get* a trademark given that the word "Tweet" is so ubiquitous and relates to products that have been on the market prior to the filing. I really have no idea if the US...
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- Tamar Weinberg
I don't think TweetDeck just pulled "tweet" out of thin air, did they? TweetDeck came out in July 2008, but the term was already widely used by then.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'd actually encourage any and all companies using the phrase Tweet to file a Notice of Opposition against the trademark.
- Tamar Weinberg
Ken, I wonder who the first to use "Tweet" is. Tamar, agreed - if I had "Tweet" in my name I'd be talking to my lawyer right now. The notice is probably pretty standard and most likely only an hour or two of work you'd pay for.
- Jesse Stay
FWIW, they only filed for the TM. They haven't been granted it yet. Maybe they won't be given the circumstances.
- Tamar Weinberg
It's looking a lot like they won't get it, ironically thanks to trademarks their own developers have applied for:
- Sam Johnston
Another LOL Cat! - Fwd: My lack of Dune knowledge is seriously one of the most embarrassing aspects of my geekery. From the outside looking in trying to learn about the series seems like such a giant and daunting task. There is so much, and so many people are so enthusiastic about it. (über http://friendfeed.com/pierce...)
WOW, Zee! This pic has caused quite a commotion over there, hasn't it? You're handling it perfectly! Slap'm around a bit! P.S. Thanks for the shout-out ;-)
- Brad Williamson
Anybody in their right mind can clearly see it's an Ubuntu Release Party. There is no mistaking it for anything else.
- Kittyburgers
Oh arrgh, this be pleasin' to me eye
- Paul Roberts
'(Official White House Photo by Pete Souza.) This official White House photograph is being made available for publication by news organizations and/or for personal use printing by the subject(s) of the photograph. The photograph may not be manipulated in any way or used in materials, advertisements, products, or promotions that in any way suggest approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House. '
- Kate Foy
President Barack Obama "meets" with speechwriter Cody Keenan, who dressed as a pirate for an Oval Office photo taken for use in the President's humorous speech to the White House Correspondents Association dinner May 9, 2009. "But as I said during the campaign, we can't just talk to our friends. As hard as it is, we also have to talk to our enemies, and I've begun to do exactly that," the President said in his speech.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Which just proves one thing Barack Hussein Obama is a Motherfucking Ninja.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
I've encountered déjà vécu more than a few times. It's seriously fucking creepy to go through that.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
from Bookmarklet
That was very interesting. Déjà visité is very strong with me. People are often amazed that I can be dropped into a city and know it after a few hours. Jamais vu, presque vu, déjà vu are pretty strong with me too. This explains my almost pathological nonchalance about almost everything. It's actually kind of hard to walk through life with a BTDT thought process. I like to be surprised.
- Admiral Anika
Well, it seems being an Internet Marketing / Social Media / PR Rock Star Guru is not so hard. Just take a look in Twitter: EVERYONE is a self proclaimed Guru. You gotta love the Interwebs :)
- Fabian De Simone
Anthony, clearly you just don't get it. ;)
- Cristo
Hey, I'm a maguxpert, 'cause I can't decide whether maven, guru or expert suits me best. (Tweeted this recently and people took me seriously.)
- Sue Radd
I don't know who pays these people. Hyper big brands? Medium/small retail companies, it's all about roi. Good luck proving your return per tweet.
- Ryan Dadey
@Ryan - I'm not sure anyone does. The weird thing is, a lot of the big brands don't get social media at all, and tend to hire agencies that don't either. I do think smaller companies that are engaged in hardcore, smaller-ticket e-commerce pay tiny amounts of money to scrappy firms/individuals that claim they do "social media PR" but all they really do is spam the networks for their clients.
- Anthony Citrano
Anthony, completely agree. Internet marketers especially. Sorry people, I've done the MLM and crap, I have the debt to prove it. Unless you're twitter stream is more than solid sales pitches and "coaching" on how to make money, I block all of these types.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
[not to say there aren't smart communications/marketing agencies/people who intelligently integrate social media into their practices - there certainly are - but they never would describe it as "social media PR" ...] That is usually just code for: "person who has a Twitter account and isn't afraid to rent it out."
- Anthony Citrano
The madness will subside soon I hope. No buzz word can mask a lack of talent. It just makes it a bit noisy for now.
- Troy Malone
As a PR person, we've adopted social media as another tool in the box. You still need to understand who you want to reach and what appeals to them. I don't think it makes any more sense to call ourselves a "social media agency" than it would have a "press release agency."
- Kevin Pedraja
@Kevin - I think seeing it merely as a "tool" is a little off, myself... It certainly can be a "tool" to share information, your voice, and so on - but to so many of these spammers it's just a tool for spamming and crass manipulation. I mean, how many PR people would dream of referring to print media as a "tool?" How would a magazine editor feel if she heard that? It is a...
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- Anthony Citrano
are these kind of services so popular in LA, Anthony?
- Luca Conti
Anthony: Perhaps I should have been more expansive. My point really is that too many people are talking about social media as a strategy unto itself. It's not. It's a unique platform, but like any platform the value you'll get out of it is directly proportional to the value you put in. Companies jumping into Twitter, FF, Facebook, etc. without a sound strategy aren't going to find much success.
- Kevin Pedraja
And the most important part of that strategy has to be knowing who you want to reach, what they care about and how you can provide them with something that will encourage them to engage with you.
- Kevin Pedraja
As a user of social networking, I'm pretty uninterested in having PR, advertisers, and spammers engage me. Unfortunately, there's no money in that point of view.
- Cristo
Chris, fair enough. But companies like Comcast, Zappos, Crocs, etc. are building stronger relationships with customers via social networks. You are, of course, free not to follow them.
- Kevin Pedraja
Honestly, Kevin, I think jumping in without a sound strategy is the best way. Jumping in with a strategy just sounds too much like astroturf to me. I want companies to be authentic and let their employees do the same. The truth - with all its warts - is far more interesting to me than seeing companies tip-toeing into these spaces with manufactured, polished stuff that's clearly copied-and-pasted out of an agency comm plan. (Not picking on you here, just sayin’) ;)
- Anthony Citrano
As long as they all stay on Facebook and Twitter, and don't start polluting the stream here on FriendFeed, I don't really care. It would be bad if I had to start blocking usernames like Comcast and Zappos because they started participating in some PR-like way on random threads.
- Cristo
Actually, I agree with you completely. The first thing we tell clients is that they need to let their people be real. The 2nd thing we tell them is that if they expect to control the conversation, they'll be very disappointed.
- Kevin Pedraja
And Mark, it's good to see you're back. Where've you been?
- Kevin Pedraja
Mark and I have been hanging out in New Orleans. Getting into all kinds of trouble.
- Cristo
NIce. Hopefully you've assigned someone to hold the bail money...
- Kevin Pedraja
I hear the Crocs guy is really cool. Just sayin.
- George Smith
George Smith, I don't think I could have made my point as well as you just did. BTW, there's nothing that says "I have no taste" more than wearing Crocs. ;)
- Cristo
Heh... @Kevin I have been 32 miles northeast of BFE trying to salvadge a small loss from a big loss on a project that went way, way wrong.
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Smith: The Crocs guy would be really cool if he had a party with an open bar at the St. Julien ;)
- coldbrew
coldbrew, not if he was wearing Crocs. :)
- Cristo
White: I'm not a girl, so I don't really care about footwear :P
- coldbrew
coldbrew, oh sorry. All this time I thought you were. I'll stop hitting on you then. ;)
- Cristo
Re: the Crocs guy, ya he is. I actually made quite a bit of fun about the rumor they were going bankrupt and he responded with a really good sense of humor. I still won't wear their shoes but he won a fan. Oh yeah, and he killed that rumor dead within about an hour by talking to people about it directly.
- Kevin Pedraja
@coldbrew - open bar at st. julien....I like where your heads at! As for "I have no taste" comment - we have so many different styles, why do people hate? If you don't like 'em, don't like 'em. But I bet if you go to Crocs.com and look around with an open mind, there would be something you'd at least TRY.
- George Smith
Now we just need Zappos and Comcast to jump in.
- Cristo
Jason, yeah. It's hard to believe Comcast would address your opinion on them removing analog news channels like CNN, MSNBC, and CNBC from the bay area lineup, or that your cable service has been flakey for the past week.
- Cristo
Jason - being in the position, I'll have two way conversations about pretty much anything. I can't talk about certain things (SEC laws and such) but, with the people I engage for Crocs, I pretty much talk about everything. Heck, for a lot of the bloggers I reach out to - I know their kids names and attempt to develop real relationships with them. Can I do it with everyone - no, but I do...
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- George Smith
Smith: Bring all varieties of Crocs to the party. Do live video or w/e. Have a band out in the courtyard. I'll be the bare foot guy with a beer in each hand. [P.S. Are you all going to Telluride Bluegrass this year?]
- coldbrew
@coldbrew - not sure if we're doing Telluride this year. Budgets have changed and everything. If you find me around Boulder though, I'll buy you a beer!
- George Smith
I've heard a higher percentage of people who wear Crocs smoke marijuana. Is this true George Smith?
- Cristo
No it's not true. But recent studies suggest that people that wear our shoes are awesome. But not as awesome as this: http://bit.ly/jobut
- George Smith
George, that's too bad. That would have gotten me to buy some Crocs. ;)
- Cristo
Well we don't sell for an image. We sell comfort. I'm sure they'd be amazingly comfortable as you lounge around your home with a bag of funions. ;-)
- George Smith
George, I don't wear shoes in my house. Actually, most people don't. :)
- Cristo
Well I heard a higher percentage of people who wear shoes inside choose Crocs as that shoe. Is that true?
- George Smith
I dunno, but between my wife and I we apparently have more than 75 pairs of shoes, and not one of them are Crocs.
- Cristo
We all make our choices when we purchase things. I'm guessing around 70 pairs of those shoes are your wife's ;-)
- George Smith
Somebody please make a Mr. Friendfeed, I just don't care about Twitter anymore because I never took the time to figure out how to work it right and I just don't want to now.
- Pete Delucchi
from Bookmarklet
Someone out there somewhere has a plan for this. LG has done his part, I did mine, and now it's up to some special coder out there somewhere with a knack for...well, whatever it is that makes these things work. Code, I guess.
- Pete Delucchi
Just got my results back tonight. It is pretty cool and a valuable tool.
- Mark Krynsky
I have to admit, "personal twitter assistant" sounds awfully strange to me. We're so busy with our online selves that we don't even have time to manage our online personalities? So now we need an IRL personal assistant AND one for twitter? *facepalm*
- Ladybug Heather
"No, totally different than the traditional waterfall way - basically think of it as extending Agile out to the business end. Treat the customer as an unknown, the distribution as an unknown, and the initial featureset as an unknown, and do the smallest possible iteration of the entire business (end-to-end, customer to distribution to product) and bring that to market. Then recalibrate using user research and analytics, and bring the next iteration. The entire cycle should be very small. The problem with Agile development is that all the advantages only confer to the technology side, and you can often end up with a very monolithic view of customer/distribution/etc. And by not iterating on those at the same time you're iterating on the product, you are building up huge risk by sequencing these steps out. That is, "Agile development" = waterfall for business end, agile on technology. Now all of this is worse in Waterfall, where you assume a known customer with a known featureset - and..."
- Andrew Chen
Morton just had to go an 1 up me I see ;-) ** snarky smile **
- Susan Beebe
Hmm I thought it was like may may.. Still don't really know what it means hehe I'll look it up. :-)
- TobiasVerhoog.com
I think it came about because typically they are all "Me me me me me me" posts.. hence "Meme". Someone correct me if i'm wrong
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Wikipedia says Richard Dawkins coined the term, but I think he got it from the French même meaning same. That's the pronunciation I'd prefer... Anyone in on a movement to change the pronunciation?
- LogEx
LOL, the "me-me" thing is funny, because that's one way memes work. The correct pronunciation is indeed like "meem," and it was coined by Richard Dawkins in his book The Selfish Gene. A meme is the basic unit of cultural information, and is analogous to genes in biology.
- Tanath
FF is about conversation. If you're going to use FF as a billboard or megaphone and not reciprocate when people are taking the time to respond to you, I'm unsubscribing.
It's one thing I like about Robert Scoble and a few others, even with busy lives, and thousands of followers, they still find the time to comment and comment back. Well done.
- Mo Kargas
*crickets* HA HA HA HA HA HA. OK, sorry. :|
- Josh Haley
If you wish, Comrade! *salutes smartly*
- Mo Kargas
Everyone now feels obligated to reply to this post to prove they're part of the community ;)
- Steven Cains
Rofl :D Cains haz discoverd mah evil plan!
- Mo Kargas
Well, you're not subscribed to me so I'm not going to repl... doh!
- Morton Fox
LOL @ obligation to contribute to the thread. And Mo - I didn't realize I wasn't subscribed to you! I'd been reading you so long as a friend-of-a-friend! Sorry!
- Ladybug Heather
Ohh that's ok Heather lol, it just occured to me that I wasn't subscribed to you and Morton. I wouldn't have noticed if it wasn't for FF's little blue/grey comment icons
- Mo Kargas
Wasn't that kind of megaphoned. ;-) I am hot and cold with FF. Sometimes I power participate, and when I don't, I forget that my stuff is feeding into it. :-/
- Jennifer Leggio
I am here quite a lot, and I think I participate quite a lot, but one can't always be here of course. I do try to respond when folks ask me something or respond to me, but I probably miss a few along the way.
- Ian May
Oh, oh! I was on the way to the gym so I couldn't reply to your last comment on my feed! I'm sorry! But I did go to the gym so does that get me a little bit of leeway? :D Hi, Mo!!
- ♥patricia♥
You're soooo off the island Pea :D J/K <3
- Mo Kargas
In terms of my portion of the conversation, I prefer to listen :)
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Mo, I don't find that funny AT.ALL. *ahem* :D hee. <3
- ♥patricia♥
Anyway, none of you guys do that. A lot of so-called 'A listers' do (again not all), and I don't follow them anyway, anymore.
- Mo Kargas
Yah, I feel you Mo. Anyone that is bothering to respond/like this is probably not on "the list" LOL
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
hey I'm still here, I've been in the US Politics room for the last few weeks.
- R. Ferguson
Good one. I guess not many people realise it and it was good that you point it out. I can understand what Scoble comes from now. Conversation is everything!
- Suhit Anantula
Seems awful shortsighted - some people are are good conversation starters, some are good commenters, some are both. Why exclude any of them?
- Brian Sullivan
i get more responses to my comments than what i post, so ff works (or my feed sucks)
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Agreed, just with FriendFeed made it easier to track all your conversations, kind of like a FF "inbox".
- Mike Reynolds
I agree and try to respond when I have something valueable to say, but I am on the quiet side. Hubby hates that I don't talk as much as he does. Need to get him on here.
- Denise
from twhirl
participation is important...but it's OK w/me when people promote their own stuff - same goes for twitter, greader, etc - it helps me not miss anything when it comes in via mult channels :)
- Sarah Perez
@Brian I don't think most FFers are like this, I also understand if you're a new FFer your feed may look like a billboard. What I'm against is, for example, if your subscribers are constantly commenting on your feed, and you never, ever, reply back to them, never participate in the conversation.
- Mo Kargas
@Sarah Perez Ohh for sure, but paticipation/conversation/reciprocation is what I believe to be the foundation of FF. If you're merely promoting yourself, there's no difference between you and a banner ad.
- Mo Kargas
Yea, right. China is a communist country the same way the Republican party is the party of small business standing up against Wall Street and the investment bankers and against "socialism".
- Paul Denlinger
That is a great idea.. Next thing you know everyone is going to want free haircuts just like they do in China
- EminiAddict
Hilarious. You will learn aplenty in Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou, but precious little about communism. Have a great trip; sorry I will miss you in SH.
- sage brennan
By the way, one thing I recommend for any visitor to China is visit a bookstore if possible (even the ones in airports). You'll be shocked at all the business management / capitalism books you'll find (and one tiny shelf of Communist stuff).
- Andrew Leyden
I can't believe how much news and commentary there is. I just watched a segment on the percentage of Obama vs. McCain cupcakes sold at a bakery in LA and Obama vs. McCain cups sold at 7-Eleven. Now, there's a debate going on b/w a white pundit and a black pundit (in Chinese!) about the Bradley Effect...
- Ana
from email
I heard that the Chinese are typically for Republicans, but this year are overwhelmingly for Obama.
- Gabe
My extremely unscientific poll shows a lot of young Chinese supporting Obama, and older Chinese supporting McCain (or at least leery of Obama).
- Darren
"A Horizon Research survey released on October 22 showed about 35.5% of Chinese people "pay close attention" to the US presidential race. Among these people, Obama's supporters exceeded McCain's by 17.8%." according to http://www.atimes.com/atimes...
- Jess Lee
"Last week I was having lunch with a senior person involved with Facebook and asked him about the recent departure of some of their key people. His response: “Facebook just doesn’t have the right culture. They’re not a Google or Microsoft.”"
- Paul Buchheit
We were discussing corporate culture a few nights ago. The question is can Google maintain it? I literally remember the year Microsoft lost it (and A LOT of energy!)
- Charlie Anzman
One key tenet that Facebook desperately needs is a commitment to putting user interests first. Shortchanging user experience to try to boost lock-in and page views will not only cost them growth in the long run, but it also materially impairs employee morale.
- Christopher Sacca
@Sacca and @Paul: +1. The "don't be evil" mantra, and how it is manifested in every day life at Google is what keeps the company strong. While I've never personally invoked the phrase myself (I consider its use a Goodwin's law-esque method of last resort), not a week goes by where I don't raise at least one question about whether what we're doing is aligned with the best interests of the web. That my voice is heard and well received (and that I still have a job!) is a testament to Google culture.
- DeWitt Clinton
I've heard rumors that Google's culture has gone downhill in the last year or so... No personal experience there, so I can't confirm. But I have experienced companies as they grow and there's a tipping point where the balance goes from keeping the employees happy to keeping the stockholders and upper management happy... usually it makes the company no longer worth working for when that happens.
- Fa La La La Lindsay
I wouldn't say it's gone downhill. Just that there are a heck of a lot more people now, many of whom have spent careers at other companies, and it takes some time to realize that it's acceptable, even encouraged, *not* to put your own product before the best interests of the whole. Fortunately "upper management" has remained remarkably stable throughout all this growth, and they seem to hold those values dear.
- DeWitt Clinton
Lindsay - There comes a time where a 'rule book' comes into play (most for legal and government conformance reasons. That's when it gets really hard to keep everyone smiling. Results tell the story and Google has done an incredible job keeping it this long. (Any Wall St analyst that expected 50% a quarter was pushing it a little).
- Charlie Anzman
Should companies really aspire to "be the next Google"? How about aspiring to create a good product, be sustainable and grow? I was just reflecting on Google's insane growth curve yesterday, as I visited for the first time in about five years. Is it their values that have helped them successfully weather this growth or just dumb luck? I think values help as, amazingly, their corporate culture seems to be much the same as it always was.
- Laura Norvig
I think the trick to creating a successful company lies in not wanting to be the next $OTHERCOMPANY but in wanting to be something unique and original. "We want to be just like them" is not an inspiring mission statement. It doesn't tell you what to do when you face challenges that your role model never faced.
- Adewale Oshineye
For a company that is moving rapidly -- and a tech industry company is dead if it is not -- the culture changes every year. I don't believe there is a single point where any company the size of Google, Microsoft, or IBM "loses it", though individuals may have specific events that were a personal turning point in their excitement about being part of the firm.
- ⓞnor