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Weiss is getting tired of left wing poseurs http://mondoweiss.net/2014...
[After the film, we had a chiefly inter-Jewish dialogue led by Rabbi Brent Spodek] Weiss: "Also I found that I did not respect the group. Our country is now well into an education process on the issue; but the organized Jewish community cut a deal with Zionism long ago and is stuck in that understanding. This group I’d visited was a liberal one. They’re not rightwing Zionists. But really what is the difference?" - Chu_
"They know nothing about the conflict except that we Jews have the right to a just-in-case state halfway round the world. They insulate themselves from criticism with cultural mechanisms of self-validation that verge on paranoia. They are generally incurious about Palestinian experience. They have hardened themselves to the killings of hundreds of Palestinian civilians in Gaza through... more... - Chu_
weiss: ' This group I’d visited was a liberal one. They’re not rightwing Zionists. But really what is the difference?"' - Chu_
what is the difference? one hand washes the other. - Chu_
you wipe and shake the hands of the goyim with the left - JustTheFactsPlease
Phil has converted? - American
not sure about that yet. but he probably realizes they are an incorrigible bunch. - Chu_
No way. Jewishly Jewish to the Jewish core: "It is a waste of time to organize in that community. A Jew who cares about these things must stand on the street with Jews Say No or stand with the critical Jews of JVP and Open Hillel." - pepsi
It's still like the goyim don't exist. - pepsi
Phil has all his hopes pinned on the younger Jews. I am not sure 'enough of them are going to be different from the older ones to make a difference 'within the Jews. - American
The 'liberal' tag on zionist is just lipstick on the pig. They think its makes them 'prettier. - American
pepsi
In 'Transparent,' A 70-Year-Old Divorced Dad Comes Out As A Woman http://www.npr.org/2014...
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Who in the hell would this movie appeal to except the gay, transgenders and etc.? - American
Jews. The lead actoress is kosher - pepsi
Please become a good transfat sexual, goyim. You wouldn't wanna bring on another holocaust now would you? - JustTheFactsPlease
It'll probably be a force-fed smash hit like Brokeback Mountain. - Todd
I think we need to come up with some rules for gayness on screen. We could start with no sharing of beds, holding hands, kissing, suggestive hugging and NO SEX! I don't care if a person is gay, but I do not want to see him in action, at all, never, under any circumstances. Vomiting at the sight of two men getting romantic is hardwired, and they should respect my right not to be sickened or offended. In return, I promise that Hollywood will never force a sex-tape of me onto the public. - Todd
You are being an insolent little goyim worm, change is good. Go along with it or become an ebolan - JustTheFactsPlease
Maybe I'd just be better off with Ebola, JTFP. Death or bizarro world? I understand that all sorts of people exist, and I don't really care what people do in private, but I don't think a healthy society can be built by cobbling together the beliefs of a bunch of tiny, fringe subcultures or a coalition of minorities that is in constant war with the majority or dominant culture. - Todd
you guys are ants trying to move an elephant. A very very smart elephant. - pepsi
I find you uninspiring, back to my FMV video game idea for your interactive movie pepsi, it could be based on somethin like this, hell this was 20 years ago, imagine the possibilities now: - JustTheFactsPlease
'' you guys are ants trying to move an elephant. A very very smart elephant.'' - pepsi) ....Wait till we turn into hyenas. - American
old men in drag is so hot...I hear they're pushing the envelope on the gay sex scenes. - Chu_
can't wait - JustTheFactsPlease
Mustn't see tv! - Todd
How Jill Soloway Created 'Transparent' — the Jewiest Show Ever Read more: http://forward.com/article... - pepsi
On its face, “Transparent” is a television series about a transgender father coming out to his three young adult children. It weaves together the tragicomic family dynamics of five unbelievably narcissistic people. It is also arguably the Jewiest television show ever. - pepsi
“It is so Jewy. We got away with that much Jewiness? I can’t believe it,” said series creator and executive producer Jill Soloway, in an interview with The Forward. Surprisingly, today “it’s more controversial to be Jewy than trans,” she said, pointing to some of the nauseatingly anti-Semitic comments left on YouTube under the series trailer. “There are more people saying horrible things about Jews than about trans people. It’s crazy.” - pepsi
About a decade ago, Soloway went on retreat with Reboot, an organization that, in its own parlance, brings together “Jewishly unconnected cultural creatives.” It had a major impact on Soloway and led to her starting, with other Rebooters, a peripatetic congregation called East Side Jews, which gathers in the Silver Lake area of Los Angeles for reimagined Jewish rituals like Shabbat dinners and tashlich. Many of the writers on “Transparent” are people she met through Reboot, she said. - pepsi
'It weaves together the tragicomic family dynamics of five unbelievably narcissistic people. It is also arguably the Jewiest television show ever." - got that... - Chu_
this sounds like Arrested Development 2.0 - Chu_
American
What does the Jewish Lobby have to do with the Rise of the Russian Mafia Internationally and the US-Israel Russian Mafia Network.
'' Back in 1995, the then-head of the FBI Louis Freeh claimed that the Russian-Jewish mafia had become the “greatest threat the American security” in the world, though, several days later, he was forced to retract his statements according to the BBC.'' - American
So how was the Russian Mafia able to spread international and become the largest criminal network, outdoing even the Colombian Cartels? Follow the bread crumb trail. - American
In 1973 Kissinger was carrying out negotiations with Russia to establish a detente , open US trade relations, agree on nuclear controls and end the 'cold war'. When the Jews got wind of the negotiations they pressured congress to make up the the Jackson-Vanik amendment was an attempt to steer American foreign policy away from ''detente'' for Jewish 'human rights'. They wanted to kill... more... - American
In reality Russian had already been letting Jews immigrate but was charging a tax on emigres for the free state university educations all Russians receive. What the Jewish groups wanted was to force Russia to remove the tax and also they wanted a 'mass exodus' of these educated Russian Jews to Israel to increase their population---and in addition they wanted them given 'refugee status' so the US would finance their resettlement. - American
Kissinger’s greatest enemy in this battle over Jackson-Vanik was Richard Perle, then a young legislative aide to Jackson who in later years would have positions of power in the Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush administrations. Perle coordinated the campaign for Jackson and worked hard to keep the Jewish community squarely behind the amendment. - American
Kissinger opposed the amendment until the end. When it finally passed, and the Soviets, with a great pique, rejected the entire trade bill, Kissinger wrote, in a self-satisfied letter to a Jewish leader, “When the Soviet Union looked at the totality of what it had to gain from the trading relationship we were able to offer, as against what it considered intrusions in its domestic affairs, it drew the balance sheet of which we have the results today.” - American
So in the end the Jewish lobby won, congress passed the Jackson-Vanik bill and the US detente with Russia fell apart. - American
The Russians being pissed in general with US Jews torching the US Russia agreements said fine, we will give you all the Jews you want and just as Cuba's Castro had done opened their prisons wide and gave every Jew and anyone who claimed to be a Jew a passport to the US or Israel. 1.6 million eventually went to Israel and 600,000 eventually came to the US. - American
'' "It's wonderful that the Iron Curtain is gone, but it was a shield for the West," Boris Urov, the former chief investi­gator of major crimes for the Russian attorney general, has declared. "Now we've opened the gates, and this is very dangerous for the world. America is getting Russian crimi­nals. Nobody will have the resources to stop them. You people in the West don't know our Mafiya yet. You will - American
The Russian Jewish gangs that immigrated to the US first set up camp in Brighton Beach in Brooklyn and thus began their networking with Jewish Russian criminal elements in Israel. According to Interpol since 1973 they have spread to a loosely affiliated organized crime group that now operates in 50 countries. - American
According to the respected Stratfor.com research and intelligence organization, the Israeli government estimates that roughly 10% of all Jewish immigration to Israel is criminal, yet, little is done to stem this tide other than pious denunciations. Even more, the Israeli government has admitted that mafia money went to finance much of Benjamin Netanyahu’s campaign for the Prime Ministership in 1996. - American
In the US both the FBI and Police Task forces on the Russian mob have expressed it thus-----"Bobby Sommer a detec­tive in the 61st Precinct in Brighton Beach, he is clearly on the verge of surrendering to a force that has him out­gunned, outfinanced, and outwitted. A Russian crime group bought the building directly across the street from his sta­tion house, and the gangsters have been... more... - American
In Israel Israeli police officials estimate that Russian mobsters have poured more than $4 billion of dirty money into Israel's economy, though some estimates range as high as $20 billion. - American
Israeli Minister of National Security Moshe Shahal told a gathering of intelligence heads in June 1996. Israel is a country that encourages people to come and invest money... "There is no mecha­nism to check the origin of the money." - American
>Israeli Mafia Returns to LA? Did It Ever Leave? By J.J. Goldberg ---http://blogs.forward.com/jj-gold... 1981, when I was working as a reporter in Los Angeles, a task force investigator agreed to meet me and tell the story and show me documents. He said the task force had been disbanded months earlier at the insistence of... more... - American
The substantial Jewish investment in the global arms trade permits Israel to support rebel groups worldwide through mafia channels that otherwise would be credited to Israeli government policy. For example, Russian-Jewish mafia figures are financing the Darfur separatists in Sudan (though the agency of Ukrainian-Jewish boss Viktor Bout), and the Colombian communist FARC rebels through... more... - American
Special treatment gives Israeli mobsters free access to US soil: WikiLeaks http://electronicintifada.net/blogs... - American
'' This revelation comes in a May 2009 cable from the US Embassy in Tel Aviv titled “Israel: A Promised Land for Organized Crime?” The cable, which was released by Wikileaks on 26 August, details the growing alarm of American officials that “Organized crime in Israel now has global reach, with direct impact inside the United States.” Israel, according to the cable, is a world center of... more... - American
Efforts to fight Israeli crime in US hampered by legal exemption Under a heading titled “Israeli OC Operating Freely in United States,” the cable states: it is fair to assume that many known OC figures hold valid tourist visas to the United States and travel freely. It notes that the US Embassy in Tel Aviv is currently utilizing all available tools to deny Israeli OC [organized crime]... more... - American
And the Jewish Lobby and Jewish 'contribution ' to the world continues as long as it benefits the Jews and Israel------> Barbara Boxer, AIPAC seek to codify Israel's right to visa free entry... www.theguardian.com › Opinion › Israel The Guardian Apr 13, 2013 - Barbara Boxer, the chair of the Senate environment and public works ... to enter this program, so that Israelis can enter the US without a visa - American
As of the last FBI report in the early 2000's the Russian Jewish mob had cost the US taxpayers over 2 trillion dollars in gas tax fraud, medicare fraud, SS fraud, Us education grants fraud, charity frauds, money laundering, and the list goes on and on. - American
Probably nothing is more typical of the Jewish group then this----> After using the US to get refugee status for Russian Jews in the US, get them on the US welfare rolls and get 10 million in US aid to resettle the ones who went to Israel the Jews then 15 years after the Russian Jewish immigration due to the US congressional Jackson-Vanik iJewish immigration bill they got the US to... more... - American
There has never been a group of ethno/religo people more detrimental to the US and Americans welfare than the Jews...sorry but that's the truth. And all the babble and propaganda we see at MW about the 'great contributions of Jews' to the US and the world is absolute crap that flies in the face of 1000's of examples like this of what their tribalism and disdain for all others has wrought...everywhere. - American
American -- again, I strongly disagree with this last comment of yours: "There has never been a group of ethno/religo people..." Your assumption is that 98% of Americans have been the passive and innocent victims of 2% of Americans -- which doesn't make the slightest bit of sense, unless you want to argue that the vast majority of Americans are mindless zombies. The Russian Mafia is an... more... - Sean McBride
Why was Henry Jackson, who was not Jewish, a key leader behind the Jackson-Vanick amendment? Are we supposed to believe that Richard Perle possessed the magical or superhuman ability to control Jackson's mind -- to wrap Jackson around his little finger? You never seem willing to grant agency or the power of independent action to non-Jews in these situations. If Jews really are as... more... - Sean McBride
Henry Jackson was a key member of the military-industrial complex, a lobby which couldn't care less about Zionism other than as a tool to use and exploit in the quest for ever-expanding profits. - Sean McBride
Digging into the Russian Mafia: - Sean McBride
# timeline; Russian Mafia; *date; *property; *value 0. property 1. article 2. book 3. event 4. photo 5. quote 6. video - Sean McBride
An odd detail: [Wikipedia; Louis Freeh: SUV crash and hospitalization http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...] - Sean McBride
Sean, I dont know how to tell you how little I care about the anti semite tag. .All it means to me is that I don't put The Jews above my own country and every other group. I also don't know how to explain to you that the 'innocent of this among the Jews" cannot be my or anyone else's concern when the evidence and facts say that 'organized jewry' must be stamped out for the good of this... more... - American
If the Jews have the exceptional abilities you think they do then I am sure the innocent ones will be able to protect themselves from the eventual blow out and dont need my help. - American
Do not embarrass yourself by trying to deny the Jewish Lobby part in the spread of the Russian Mafia due to their interference for Jewish Russians in 1973. It has been traced documented and evidenced by more law enforcment from the FBI to Interpol and more investigations than I could ever have the time to fully list here. - American
It was during this time that Kissinger made his famous "anti semitic' statement that.... 'that the Jews were traitors to America". What they did was treasonous. - American
'' Your assumption is that 98% of Americans have been the passive and innocent victims of 2% of Americans -'...Sean)......My assumption is that 98 % of american have been kept in the dark by US media and politicians on the extent of the Jewish fifth column in the US and what it has caused, not just in the US but elsewhere. But the light will be turned on sooner or later. - American
Recall this post: [# prominent non-Jewish Zionists https://friendfeed.com/mondowe...] I think they are all responsible for their own beliefs and actions. - Sean McBride
Yes I remember that thread but I still think you aren't getting my actual point on this. How do I get you to follow it?.... I will start with the fact of 6 million Jews in the US. And with the fact that the majority of them do support Israel ,if not all extreme or militant, they dont go against the wider community support for Israel. And the majority of them do support favored treatment... more... - American
american - a lot of data here and links. can you give me a summary of what this thread conveys? please... - Chu_
The..'you cant say the tribe is detrimental to American because of the *some* innocent in the tribe ---is about the same thing as saying African's and others dont need to worry abut ebola because *some* Africans and people's own immune systems fight it off and they don't die from it. - American
Put in another realistic way.....Israel blew up and killed its own IDF solider rather than let Hamas capture him----if organized jewry wants to use the Jews as shields to prevent me, whoever, from taking down their lobbies and the majority of Jews are willing to be used that way--there is nothing I can do about that.That is between the Jews themselves...and that 'ploy' will not affect what I say about what I see or know about the 'Tribal effort for Israel in the US.. - American
Chu....its about the link between the growth of the Russian Mafia internationally and in the US & Israel and the Russian Jewish US Jackson-Vanick immigration bill that 'opened the floodgates' of Jewish Russian emigration out of Russia in 1973 including all their criminals in prison and hordes of Russian mafia figures. - American
Wiki: Strongest ethnic criminal groups - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - (note: at top of the list) Russian criminal groups[edit] These mostly consist of both Slavic as well as Jewish criminals. The most well-known of these gangs is the Solntsevskaya Bratva.[40] [Chechen criminal groups are beneath the Jewish/Slavic ethnic criminal groups] - Chu_
Bigotry is blaming and punishing entire groups -- ethnic, racial, religious, etc. -- for the behavior of some members of the group. Decent people don't succumb to or indulge in bigotry. Modern Western democratic principles are based on holding *individuals* to account for their behavior, not entire ethnic or religious groups. You seem to have lost sight of those values. As for making... more... - Sean McBride
Re Chechen and other groups a related to the Russian Mafia. First some of the Chechan gags are 'within" the Russia Mafia---some are not because they were 'separatist' and formed their own gangs .--but both arose from Russia because Chechen was 'part of Russian -the USSR ' until its official collapse in 1991 ..long after the 1973 immigration exodus. - American
Sean...Smart people dont fall for the bigotry ''red herring' either and you are using it just Jews and zionist do. I didn't make threats against the Jews but I can assure you there are some threats they have never heard before and will not know how to handle and we are seeing their inability to handle them right now.....most the world and not a few leaders are now pubically and... more... - American
Chu...further on the jewish, salvic, etc makeup of the Russian Mafia --the thrust of this article was not about the actual ethnic makeup of the Red Mafia----the point was how the Jewish lobbies interference and demand for mass Jewish immigration from Russia jump started the internationalizing of the Russian Mafia and in the US and Israel. - American
There was a lot of links and I wasn't sure the gist of all of it. I don't know much about this topic, so thanks for the overview. You and Chas drop some things that I often need to look into and study up on. I have been recently reading about the Pale of Settlement, which is basically the same thing as what was termed Yiddishland. Been reading chapters of 200 years together as well. - Chu_
Hey Sean I've got another hot potatoe subject for you but dont have time to get into right now, will do it later. - American
American -- you've placed yourself on the same page with those groups that are seeking out (lusting for) an apocalyptic showdown between "the Jews" and the rest of the world -- Christian Zionists, militant Jewish Zionists, militant Islamists, militant white nationalists and neo-Nazis, etc. Think about it. None for me, thanks -- one sees weeping and gnashing of teeth at the end of that path for all parties concerned. There has to be a better way. - Sean McBride
Work to make the world a better place. - Sean McBride
''American -- you've placed yourself on the same page with those groups that are seeking out (lusting for) an apocalyptic showdown between "the Jews" and the rest of the world ...Sean......Oh lord.lord,lord....what propels you to make these leaps of hysteria I don't know. When I say the Jews/Israelis cant continue their aggression and win against the majority of the world stating that 'fact becomes 'lusting ' for a apocalyptic ending? That is totally in your mind,not mine. - American
When I say the Jewish group has the most detrimental ethno/religo group to real US interest--and it is true---no other group in US history has so skewed US national interest for their group----and then I say I want to kill them all or expel them all from the US--then that will be anti semitism. .. - American
It is not anti semitism to hold the view that the Jewish ethno/.religo group should have their victim influence and favortism taken from them so they cannot force bad policies on the country that all Americans are affected by. - American
Now according to your definition of anti semitism my holding this opinion of 'the group'---finding the 'group guilty' is anti semitism because it might affect 'some' innocent Jews making them feel bad or lose some benefits. Or iow you believe that 'the group' should be given everything they demand and subject the country to because some Jews are more important than a entire country or its people. You know what that is don;t you? Jew worship and centricness just like the kind Jewish supremest have. - American
If you want to successfully counter the influence of the Israel lobby in American politics, you need to prevail by playing by the established democratic rules. So what's your game plan? - Sean McBride
'' So what's your game plan? - Sean McBride).....My game plan is the same as it has always been .....to keep educating people on the intersection of the Jewish Lobby and US politics at every opportunity, to keep donating to the Council for the National Interest to help them expose it, to keep sending checks to any politician that defies the Lobby with a letter saying that is Why I am... more... - American
Sounds like a plan. - Sean McBride
The problem, of course, is that Haim Saban and Sheldon Adelson can write much bigger checks than most of us, and money talks. - Sean McBride
Another saying....'money talks but bullshit walks". You can pay people to promote bullshit but you cant pay people to believe it. - American
As long as they perform services paid for, their real beliefs don't matter. - Sean McBride
At this point in time the kingmakers and corporate american titans, can probably move to any part of the globe, and operate from a new perch. That's what Bloomberg recently did in London. He moved a large chunk of his corporate operations to London (the same Bloomberg who was interested in running for the republican ticket only a few years ago - "Bloomberg Place, roughly the size of a... more... - Chu_
corporate titans like these have a substantial amount of leverage in the new corporate kingdoms. - Chu_
American
A Decent Respect for the Opinions of Mankind by Uri Avnery, October 21, 2014 http://original.antiwar.com/avnery...
Exactly what the tribe and Israel doesn't have. And why they always lose in the end, - American
'''World public opinion is important. More than that, it is vital. The British Parliament’s resolution may be non-binding, but it expresses public opinion, which will sooner or later decide government action on arms sales, Security Council resolutions, European Union decisions and what not. As Thomas Jefferson said: "If the people lead, then eventually the leaders will follow." - American
' The same Jefferson recommended "a decent respect for the opinion of mankind." - American
Israel can return and live within the 1967 borders. Is pushing out the remaining Palestinians and controlling the occupied ares going to bring them more safety? I'd say no. - Chu_
Chu_
North Carolina's 2014 Senate race most expensive ever http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/north-c...
"Three-quarters of the money comes from both party and interest groups, while more than $22 million comes from groups that don’t disclose their donors, known as "dark money" groups." - Chu_
What we have in this race is a GOP NeoCon vr a DEM whore for Schumer and the Jewish Lobby who is a neoliberal interventionist. I 'm not voting for either one of them---will vote but write in a name. - American
good to know. neocon vs. jstreet. Scary how 1/5 of the 'dark' money is unknown how it got there before election day. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... "despite disclosure rules, it is possible to spend money without voters knowing the identities of donors before the election." - Chu_
Taxi
Prominent Washington rabbi arrested for voyeurism: http://news.yahoo.com/promine...
Yeah I'm laughing at the pathetic creep: "Freundel allegedly installed a hidden camera inside the women’s showers at the Orthodox synagogue." - Taxi
" Kesher Israel's congregation included Treasury Secretary Jack Lew and former Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman." Heh heh! - Taxi
Why the heck do they have a "women's showers" in a frigging synagogue? Is this normal? And why on earth would any woman take a shower in a house of worship? Weird shit! - Taxi
I can just see this dude with his tool box climbing up a ladder to screw in his hidden camera - his thrilled slimy face as he climbed down the ladder after the installation. Disgusting fucker! - Taxi
The media zoomed in on the Catholic priest pedophile problem but we never hear a whisper about the astounding number of pedophiles and rape and sex crimes in those ultra Jewish communities in places like Brooklyn and Williamsberg in NY. - American
they did cover that case where the Brooklyn rabbi dad sodomized his daughter in the Netherlands(?) in the NYpost and Daily news. They are usually page 17 or 25 articles (at the end of the paper) and would never show a picture of this man. Odd that pedos usually have mug shots, and there are press hounding them. But I don't recall ever seeing a photo of the pedo rabbi dad. - Chu_
Can someone please tell me why a synagogue would have showers on their premises. - Taxi
"Freundel is one of the region’s most respected rabbis." http://www.washingtonpost.com/local... - not anymore he aint... - Chu_
"Barry Freundel, 62, faces a voyeurism charge after he allegedly used a hidden camera to film women in the mikvah, a ritual bath used in Orthodox Judaism." http://www.nydailynews.com/news... The facility’s mikvah has three changing rooms and the bath, used by men and women at different times, the outlet reported. - Chu_
how he was caught: 'Freundel was caught after a woman saw him setting up a clock radio that also contained a motion detecting hidden camera inside the mikvah, WTTG reported. He told the woman the device was to help ventilate the room, according to documents obtained by the Fox affiliate.' - Chu_
Ritual bathing - for what?! Can't ever wash off the stink of zionism! - Taxi
zionism has nothing to do with it - pepsi
the region's most respected rabbi, acting like a filthy old pervert. Geez. And unlike Catholic priests, rabbis can marry. But Rabbi Freundel likes a little voyerism on the side. What an embarrassment for him and his congregants. - Chu_
Why Rabbi Freundel Story Makes Me Physically Ill By Danya Ruttenberg Read more: http://blogs.forward.com/forward... - pepsi
"I don’t know what percent of the water in the mikveh is actually made up of women’s tears, but I suspect it’s a lot. The mikveh is meant to hold vulnerability. The fact that one is naked when immersing is not just a literal fact — the symbolism of it penetrates every single pore, every inch of the self that goes under the living waters. It is, for a lot of women, a unique place for a... more... - pepsi
I was being snarky, pepsi. You'll forgive me but I have an aversion to both zionism and religious ritual. - Taxi
Secret Tapes of 6 Women in Mikveh Found at Rabbi Barry Freundel's Home Rabbi Adjusted Camera Angle To Spy on Women: Police Read more: http://forward.com/article... - pepsi
Will Rabbi Barry Freundel’s Conversions Be Deemed Invalid? Synagogue Says RCA 'Will Do What It Can' Read more: http://forward.com/article... - pepsi
The president of the Rabbinical Council of America, Rabbi Leonard Matanky, confirmed that the RCA received allegations over the summer of “ethical issues that came up regarding an issue with a woman.” The allegations were investigated, but no action was taken. Read more: http://forward.com/article... - pepsi
A person who works in the travel industry told the Forward that they had informed the RCA earlier this year that Freundel, who is married, made reservations to stay overnight in a hotel with a woman converting to Judaism who was not his wife. The person declined to be identified, citing confidentiality rules. - pepsi
converting shiksas must show that they are truly devoted to Judaism. Only one way to test that devotion. - pepsi
'do you want to make it in this town or what?' - pepsi
Kahane had a female goy mistress. She jumped off a bridge b/c they didn't stay together. That Kahane charm must have been powerful, like charles manson powerful. - Chu_
Jumped? or was shoved? - American
the kahane dahlia - pepsi
Gloria Jean D'Argenio jumped http://www.nytimes.com/1994... - Chu_
"Rabbi Barry Freundel acted inappropriately in his role overseeing conversions, but that it chose not to bar him from working with converts and did not inform his synagogue. Freundel pled [not guilty] on October 15 to charges that he secretly recorded six women showering at the mikvah at his synagogue. The Rabbinical Council of America said in an October 20 press release that it... more... - Chu_
· 4 hours ago Potential converts need much more protection. In the UK a well funded Vaad handles this. Rabbis need to be paid for their work just like anybody else. If he asked for a contribution to his Vaad that is not out of bounds. He doesn't have to do anything gratis. Clerical work??? If true I would have gotten rid of him, ASAP!!! Very abusive. Joint checking accounts. Bizarre! I... more... - pepsi
More pagan sex from monotheists. I guess the monotheists shoulda never shut down them ancient pagan religious brothels - I mean can you imagine how much more honest and appealing judaism, christianity and islam woulda been if they'd permitted 'ritual sex' into their indoctrination instead of committing voyeurism and rape on the sly? - Taxi
Taxi, have you researched Jacob Frank and the Frankists? He was a successor to Sabbatai Zevi and ritual sex became central to this new form of underground Judaism. Rumor is it was Frankists behind the Jewish "Reformation". Eyes Wide Shut and the ritual orgy are said to be based on the Frankist secret societies. - pepsi
Thanks for the info, pepsi - all new stuff to me - I'll read up on it in good time. But really, essentially jewish history does not interest me much - just bits and pieces here and there. I find history that's older than judaism by far more fascinating. Hope that doesn't make me an antisemite lol! In all honesty, if I were not for the Palestine issue, I would have little motivation or interest to read up on anything judaic beyond the basics. - Taxi
anyway Taxi, there's a couple huge chapters in the Jewish story that have escaped all scrutiny. You found one of them in Sabbatai Zevi, and Frank kind of expanded it and made a form of Judaism that is indecipherable from Satanism. Every sin is to be cherished, and everything good is to be destroyed. Sound familiar? The Rothschilds were/are Frankists, and Hollywood is arguably run by them, and this Frankism was behind the depravity of Weimar Germany and the Frankfurt School. - pepsi
Check out the architecture of the Rothschild built Israeli Supreme Court and Knesset. It's all Frankist masonic imagery. - pepsi
The link between Zevi and Frank is fascinating. Do you think Frank was planted to degrade the Sabbatai movement by imbibing it with satanic/pagan wantonness? Like Mecca's house of saud jews converted to islam to despoil islam from within? Or was Frank a true believer in Zevi but misguided by his sexually repressive energies? - Taxi
good questions. He was a true believer, but started to believe himself the messiah or something along those lines. - pepsi
Is the House of Saud really Frankish Jewish? I've had my suspicions and it would make perfect sense. - pepsi
"The rapid spread of Hasidism in the second half of the 18th century greatly troubled many traditional rabbis; many saw it as a potentially dangerous enemy. They thought that it was another manifestation of the recent messianic movement of Sabbatai Zevi (1626–1676) that had led many Jews away from mainstream Judaism." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - pepsi
Think about all the ritual sex abuse in the Hasidic community. One whistleblower described child butt rape as "almost a rite of passage" in Hasidism. - pepsi
Taxi, check out this movement of Frankist subversives: "Young Vienna (Jung-Wien) was a society of fin de siècle writers who met in Vienna's Café Griensteidl and other nearby coffeehouses in the late nineteenth century." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - pepsi
"In his review of turn of the century Vienna, historian Carl Schorske wrote of the movement that they "challenged the moralistic stance of nineteenth century literature in favor of sociological truth and psychological - especially sexual - openness." - pepsi
Howard Stern, Joan Rivers, Sarah Silverman, it's all part of the same Frankist philosophy to undermine everything good and decent that holds a goyishe society together. - pepsi
Unclean Lips: Obscenity, Jews, and American Culture (The Goldstein-Goren Series in American Jewish History) http://www.amazon.com/Unclean... - pepsi
I think the Jewish Reformation in Germany and Europe wasn't about any advance in ethics, but about the Frankists weakening the power of the rabbis. - pepsi
The idea of Jewish supremacy/chosenness was hardly challenged at all during the Jewish Reformation. Ask a "Reform" Jew or a "secular" Jew if Jews are extra special. Actually, don't ask, because they'll just lie. - pepsi
Yeah you'd better believe the house of saud is 'Frankist'. A prominent Saudi writer (I will grab his for you from my friend later) - he wrote and published a book in the mid sixties on the history of the family of the house of saud, going all the way back to the days of the prophet Mohammad and further back. Indeed he presented historic facts and concluded that the house of saud is... more... - Taxi
What pisses me off is Jews claiming to be secular or atheist, but holding obviously religious beliefs. When a Jew says they are "secular", it more likely means they just hate Christians and Muslims and think they are smarter than everybody else. Look at Bill Maher, the supposed atheist who can never criticize Jewish Chosenism. Or Phil Weiss, raised by "secular" parents with all sorts of Jewish religious ideas. - pepsi
taxi, try to get that book scanned into a computer, unless you can find the text online. PLEASE - pepsi
"good questions. He was a true believer, but started to believe himself the messiah or something along those lines." Aaah, the light was too strong and the vessel cracked. This happens often when one is not ready to wield such power (over people). - Taxi
The book is in Arabic. I will ask to borrow it and get it scanned. Will keep you posted on that. - Taxi
The Turkish people need to rid themselves of their masonic (probable Frankist crypto-Jewish) establishment. - pepsi
Taxi, have you heard rumors about Sisi in Egypt being a crypto Jew? - pepsi
I posted this yesterday, but Sibel Edmonds described a global drug ring run by Israelis, US Jews, and Turks, with Saudi participation like the bin laden family. Probably all Jews. http://www.theamericanconserva... - pepsi
Yeah I've heard that about Sisi. But in the middle east whenever you don't like a leader, you just say he has jewish relatives in israel :-) They said the same about Mubarak, Morsi, Sadat, Gaddafi and even about Saddam. It's plausible that some of these guys had jewish ancestry, but they would have converted to islam some 1400 years ago. - Taxi
Re the drug thing, pepsi, you're getting into a kinda judiac illuminati here. Don't know enough about the jewish wheeling and dealing throughout recorded time to really give an opinion on this. - Taxi
this was right before 9/11. FBI translator (Lebanese origin?) Sibel Edmonds reported it in detail. Maybe you can bookmark that article. The heroin from Afghanistan was being flown westward on NATO planes to distribution centers in Europe. And Turkish diplomats were bringing it into the US in diplomatic pouches, to distribution centers in Chicago and Patterson, NJ. But the whole thing was being run by a Jew in State Department, the 3rd highest official in State. - pepsi
I need to study the BCCI bank from the 80s more. The global heroin ring that Sibel Edmonds writes about and the 9/11 plot all seems related to that bank and those same Israeli/Turkish/Saudi/Pakistani/Bush Crime Family characters. - pepsi
Sibel Edmonds talking about NATO planes shipping Bin Ladens (multiple) one way into Afghanistan, and heroin being shipped back, reminds me of how GHW Bush started an airplane company with a Bin Laden brother in Houston Texas, along with WBush's National Guard buddy. There was probably a drug smuggling connection to that airplane company, especially since it was around the time of the CIA shipping all that cocaine up to LA and Mena Arkansas from the contras in Nicaragua. - pepsi
"As American investigators try to piece together the business and political affairs of Gen. Manuel Antonio Noriega, one of the most intriguing figures remains an Israeli who some say was a key adviser to the former Panamanian strongman. The shadowy role of Mike Harari, a 62-year-old retired agent of the Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, stirred speculation and debate well before the... more... - pepsi
"They describe Mr. Harari as one of General Noriega's closest associates - a man who placed the general's daughters in an Israeli kibbutz one summer, who managed some of the general's business ventures and who used his Israeli Government contacts to entertain and protect his powerful friend." - pepsi
Yikes! - Taxi
Israelis have a history of arming both sides of conflicts. If you believe what Ostovsky says, he said that Mossad was training both the Sinhalese military and the Tamil Tigers simultaneously in Israel (the 2 groups almost crossed paths accidently when mossod agents took them out for some Israeli nightlife) http://tamilnation.co/books... Why not make money off both sides though? Something the Rothschilds would be proud of. - Chu_
smuggling drugs and investing in private prisons fits right in with that. I think the head of the DEA is a Jewess. - pepsi
Israel as the Vatican of Jewishness? - http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-... The Chief Rabbinate of Israel is reviewing the validity of conversions performed in recent years by Rabbi Barry Freundel, the Orthodox American rabbi charged with secretly filming women in his synagogue’s ritual bath, Haaretz has learned. - Chu_
that's bad news if Israel starts Issuing decrees to American synagogues. Not like they dont already... - Chu_
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Ralph Nader on Sen. John McCain and his fathers coverup of the USS Liberty attack for the Jews http://unityofnobility.com/2013... 8 min video
Interesting video, Chu. Whatever you do, don't post that link on Iggy's site. The source will have him melting down. - Todd
A bit supremacist it is, but there seems to be a lot of material there. He don't have to worry though. I pledge to keep my doctor strangelove 'quenelle' at bay when reading... :D - Chu_
Hey who is 'Iggy' and are you guys at war (of ideas!) with mwff? - Taxi
'' are you guys at war (of ideas!) with mwff? - Taxi)......lol,,,,Yea those of us who comment at Sean's have to get on him occasionally on his insistence that Jews are the smartest and toughest and most unbeatable special chosens in the universe. and goys are dumb cows who don't have a chance against their genius. - American
I'm sure Sean knows that the "smartest and toughest" would never get genocided in our Darwinian world. I think Sean is referring to the dark successes of 'operation israel' - at least that's how I understand his argument. Where he goes off point is when he has occasionally deemed that murky success an absolute and eternal victory. But I did once convince him that the hizb has beaten the... more... - Taxi
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The Big Mac should be a Right, not a Privilege! I can see Hannity making this into a story... - Chu_
whataburger is a better anyway - JustTheFactsPlease
Don't forget those ruble profits are exchanged for US dollars before they leave the country. Why wouldn't Russia want to institute capital controls this way? - MRW_8
McDonald's is gross anyway. I asked my 4 yr. old twins if they'd like to go to McDonald's to play in the play area and have hamburgers. They asked if I could pack a lunch. - Todd
You could not pay me to eat at McDonalds. Out of desperation on a trip I stopped at one a year ago and the chicken sandwich I had tasted sour and smelled like it had been soaked in rancid grease for hours...I couldnt eat it. - American
There are two types of foods on the planet: foods that give you life, and foods that give you death - and McDonald's is definitely a food that will give you a nice big bite of death - should be avoided by life-loving sensible people for this reason alone. - Taxi
I often get an upset stomach after eating at McDonald's. I call it Ronald's Revenge. - Todd
Todd, you'd better 'purge' the Big Mac before it purges you. - Taxi
My problem has always been sweets, but I recently went 7 months cutting as much processed sugar as possible. No cake, cookies, ice cream, sodas or sweet drinks the whole time, and I read labels when shopping. I'm still managing well, but I allow myself some of the things I like. Fortunately weight has never been a problem. Otherwise, I eat pretty well. - Todd
I am afflicted with the Southern addiction disease-----drinking sweet tea by the gallons. I did recently switch to decaffeinated , non sweet tea without terrible withdrawal problems. - American
I went the whole summer without a glass of sweet tea. I also cut out fried shrimp and chicken, and I love cold fried shrimp or chicken in the morning. The funny thing is that caffeine withdrawal is nothing compared to sugar withdrawal. - Todd
You guys might be interested in the direct link between slavery and the industrialization of sugar in the USA - a good read on this subject matter is SUGAR BLUES by William Dufty. Without the desires of white plantation owners for sugar cane produce, there literally would not have been African slaves in the USA. - Taxi
cotton? - JustTheFactsPlease
Cotton caught on after the slaves were brought over to work the sugar plantations: it was cheaper to grow for needing less watering than sugar cane. Africans were brought over cuz their skin didn't blister in the blazing sun when working the fields like Caucasian skin does - it really was down to this. - Taxi
true. British also used chinese as slave labor, and Indians, but Blacks could survive the long hot days of sun, where many chinese would die. There are a lot of chinese in Cuba http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... and the Carribean as a result. Here's a good map on who controlled salves in the 1700's - mainly spain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Chu_
Slaves rebellions were greatest in Jamaica, Cuba (and Haiti) and 'such uprisings were brutally crushed by European forces.' - Chu_
I'm pretty sure that the earliest plantations in my area were rice plantations, and that blacks were preferred because the sickle-cell mutation gave them a certain immunity from malaria that northern European whites didn't have-- not that anyone understood why blacks were less susceptible to malaria at the time. Also using whites as slaves was starting to cause unrest in Britain and Ireland. - Todd
Our old family farm in NC was a cotton 'plantation' if you could call a farm a plantation --Ive seen no accounts of slave owning at our farm but have seen accounts of some distant cousins who did have slaves recorded in their wills. Cotton in NC in that era was called "King Cotton'. Land not suitable for rice growing in NC except maybe in lowland swamps but never heard of any rice plantations here. - American
Indigo, rice and cotton were the big crops in Georgia, but sugar cane was also grown. I would guess that the slave/plantation owners who brought the plantation system to Georgia and the South Carolina were familiar with sugar production. Sugar was also big in Brazil, where something like 80% of the slaves taken from Africa were sold. - Todd
It's quite disturbing to learn that early industrialization of human food supplies have caused so much misery and death and evil. - Taxi
If you want to know the whole dirty story on US Sugar read this---I read it when it first came out in 2001 and it was riveting----luckily I was able to re-find this investigative piece quickly ----its truly going to take a massive earth shattering revolution or that Swat Team I've been recommending to ever wipe these things out......'In the Kingdom of Big Sugar ---- http://www.vanityfair.com/busines... - American
STUSA (Swat Team USA)! STUSA! STUSA!!! - Taxi
@American, am halfway thru reading the vanityfair article you posted - thanks for the link - fascinating read, in an ugly way, that is. - Taxi
American
What does the Jewish Lobby have to do with the Rise of the Russian Mafia Internationally and the US-Israel Russian Mafia Network
'' Back in 1995, the then-head of the FBI Louis Freeh claimed that the Russian-Jewish mafia had become the “greatest threat the American security” in the world, though, several days later, he was forced to retract his statements according to the BBC.'' - American
So how was the Russian Mafia able to spread international and become the largest criminal network, outdoing even the Colombian Cartels? Follow the bread crumb trail. - American
In 1973 Kissinger was carrying out negotiations with Russia to establish a detente , open US trade relations, agree on nuclear controls and end the 'cold war'. When the Jews got wind of the negotiations they pressured congress to make up the the Jackson-Vanik amendment which was an attempt to steer American foreign policy away from ''detente'' for Jewish 'human rights'. They wanted to... more... - American
In reality Russian had already been letting Jews immigrate but was charging a tax on emigres for the free state university educations all Russians receive. What the Jewish groups wanted was to force Russia to remove the tax and also they wanted a 'mass exodus' of these educated Russian Jews to Israel to increase their population---and in addition they wanted them given 'refugee status' so the US would finance their resettlement - American
Kissinger opposed the amendment until the end. When it finally passed, and the Soviets, with a great pique, rejected the entire trade bill, Kissinger wrote, in a self-satisfied letter to a Jewish leader, “When the Soviet Union looked at the totality of what it had to gain from the trading relationship we were able to offer, as against what it considered intrusions in its domestic affairs, it drew the balance sheet of which we have the results today.” - American
So in the end the Jewish lobby won, congress passed the Jackson-Vanik bill and the US detente with Russia fell apart - American
The Russians being pissed in general with US Jews torching the US Russia agreements said fine, we will give you all the Jews you want and just as Cuba's Castro had done opened their prisons wide and gave every Jew and anyone who claimed to be a Jew a passport to the US or Israel. 1.6 million eventually went to Israel and 600,000 eventually came to the US - American
"It's wonderful that the Iron Curtain is gone, but it was a shield for the West," Boris Urov, the former chief investi­gator of major crimes for the Russian attorney general, has declared. "Now we've opened the gates, and this is very dangerous for the world. America is getting Russian crimi­nals. Nobody will have the resources to stop them. You people in the West don't know our Mafiya yet. You will - American
The Russian Jewish gangs that immigrated to the US first set up camp in Brighton Beach in Brooklyn and thus began their networking with Jewish Russian criminal elements in Israel. According to Interpol since 1973 they have spread to a loosely affiliated organized crime group that now operates in 50 countries - American
According to the respected Stratfor.com research and intelligence organization, the Israeli government estimates that roughly 10% of all Jewish immigration to Israel is criminal, yet, little is done to stem this tide other than pious denunciations. Even more, the Israeli government has admitted that mafia money went to finance much of Benjamin Netanyahu’s campaign for the Prime Ministership in 1996 - American
In the US both the FBI and Police Task forces on the Russian mob have expressed it thus-----"Bobby Sommer a detec­tive in the 61st Precinct in Brighton Beach, he is clearly on the verge of surrendering to a force that has him out­gunned, outfinanced, and outwitted. A Russian crime group bought the building directly across the street from his sta­tion house, and the gangsters have been... more... - American
In Israel Israeli police officials estimate that Russian mobsters have poured more than $4 billion of dirty money into Israel's economy, though some estimates range as high as $20 billion - American
Israeli Minister of National Security Moshe Shahal told a gathering of intelligence heads in June 1996. Israel is a country that encourages people to come and invest money... "There is no mecha­nism to check the origin of the money." - American
Israeli Mafia Returns to LA? Did It Ever Leave? By J.J. Goldberg ---http://blogs.forward.com/jj-gold... 1981, when I was working as a reporter in Los Angeles, a task force investigator agreed to meet me and tell the story and show me documents. He said the task force had been disbanded months earlier at the insistence of the State Department, under pressure from the Israeli government.... more... - American
The substantial Jewish investment in the global arms trade permits Israel to support rebel groups worldwide through mafia channels that otherwise would be credited to Israeli government policy. For example, Russian-Jewish mafia figures are financing the Darfur separatists in Sudan (though the agency of Ukrainian-Jewish boss Viktor Bout), and the Colombian communist FARC rebels through... more... - American
Special treatment gives Israeli mobsters free access to US soil: WikiLeaks http://electronicintifada.net/blogs... - American
'' This revelation comes in a May 2009 cable from the US Embassy in Tel Aviv titled “Israel: A Promised Land for Organized Crime?” The cable, which was released by Wikileaks on 26 August, details the growing alarm of American officials that “Organized crime in Israel now has global reach, with direct impact inside the United States.” Israel, according to the cable, is a world center of... more... - American
' Efforts to fight Israeli crime in US hampered by legal exemption Under a heading titled “Israeli OC Operating Freely in United States,” the cable states: it is fair to assume that many known OC figures hold valid tourist visas to the United States and travel freely. It notes that the US Embassy in Tel Aviv is currently utilizing all available tools to deny Israeli OC [organized crime] figures access to the United States in order to prevent them from furthering their criminal activities on US - American
And the Jewish Lobby and Jewish 'contribution ' to the world continues as long as it benefits the Jews and Israel------> Barbara Boxer, AIPAC seek to codify Israel's right to visa free entry... www.theguardian.com › Opinion › Israel The Guardian Apr 13, 2013 - Barbara Boxer, the chair of the Senate environment and public works ... to enter this program, so that Israelis can enter the US without a visa - American
As of the last FBI report in the early 2000's the Russian Jewish mob had cost the US taxpayers over 2 trillion dollars in gas tax fraud, medicare fraud, SS fraud, Us education grants fraud, charity frauds, money laundering, and the list goes on and on - American
Probably nothing is more typical of the Jewish group then this----> After using the US to get refugee status for Russian Jews in the US, get them on the US welfare rolls and get 10 million in US aid to resettle the ones who went to Israel the Jews then 15 years after the Russian Jewish immigration due to the US congressional Jackson-Vanik iJewish immigration bill they got the US to... more... - American
There has never been a group of ethno/religo people more detrimental to the US and Americans welfare than the Jews...sorry but that's the truth. And all the babble and propaganda we see at MW about the 'great contributions of Jews' to the US and the world is absolute crap that flies in the face of 1000's of examples like this of what their tribalism and disdain for all others has wrought...everywhere - American
I did a couple days of goy work for a Jew in Coney Island who I could tell was mafia. He even asked me to do some Excel/spreadsheet work for him. He was talking to another Jew about a sketchy contract to be the sole food vendor at the main NY Public Library on 42nd Street. I asked him about it and he said I ask too many questions. But the massive city government apparatus might be deeply infiltrated by this stuff. - pepsi
Like Section 8 housing vouchers, rent controlled apartments, slum lords not held to account, dubious tax credits, etc. - pepsi
"There has never been a group of ethno/religo people more detrimental to the US and Americans welfare than the Jews...sorry but that's the truth." I agree with that statement. - Todd
McJew is having a fit over that comment. - pepsi
Who’s Afraid of Sibel Edmonds? The gagged whistleblower goes on the record. By PHILIP GIRALDI • November 1, 2009 http://www.theamericanconserva... - pepsi
"She was fired from the FBI in April 2002 after she raised concerns that one of the translators in her section was a member of a Turkish organization that was under investigation for bribing senior government officials and members of Congress, drug trafficking, illegal weapons sales, money laundering, and nuclear proliferation." - pepsi
bribes, drug trafficking, illegal weapons sales, money laundering, nuclear proliferation. Sounds like mafia to me. - pepsi
"A Department of Justice inspector general’s report called Edmonds’s allegations “credible,” “serious,” and “warrant[ing] a thorough and careful review by the FBI.” - pepsi
Phil Girardi: Let’s start with the first government official you identified, Marc Grossman, then the third highest-ranking official at the State Department. - pepsi
Sibel Edmonds: Grossman became a person of interest early on in the investigative file while he was the U.S. ambassador to Turkey [1994-97], when he became personally involved with operatives both from the Turkish government and from suspected criminal groups. He also had suspicious contact with a number of official and non-official Israelis. Grossman was removed from Turkey short of... more... - pepsi
EDMONDS: Two sets of FBI files, but the AIPAC-related files and the Turkish files ended up converging in one. The FBI agents believed that they were looking at the same operation. It didn’t start with AIPAC originally. It started with the Israeli Embassy - pepsi
EDMONDS: We were looking at Richard Perle and Douglas Feith. They had a list of individuals in the Pentagon broken down by access to certain types of information. Some of them would be policy related, some of them would be weapons-technology related, some of them would be nuclear-related. Perle and Feith would provide the names of those Americans, officials in the Pentagon, to Grossman,... more... - pepsi
Edmonds: The monitoring of the Turks picked up contacts with Feith, Wolfowitz, and Perle in the summer of 2001, **four months before 9/11**. They were discussing with the Turkish ambassador in Washington an arrangement whereby the U.S. would ***invade Iraq** and divide the country. The UK would take the south, the rest would go to the U.S. They were negotiating what Turkey required in exchange for allowing an attack from Turkish soil. - pepsi
Edmonds: ... the FBI agents involved wanted to continue pursuing Perle and Feith because the Israeli Embassy was also connected. Then the Monica Lewinsky scandal erupted, and everything was placed on the back burner. - pepsi
My answer to Sean's anti semitism label is basically I dont care. All being an anti semite means by Jewish definition is that I don't put The Jews ahead of my own country and all other groups of people. Well I certainly dont so I can live with that particular anti semite definition. - American
"McJew is having a fit over that comment." I'm sure he is. It always comes back to the same arguments. Go American! - Todd
but but but Scoop Jackson was a goy! - pepsi
Nobody ever took a bribe or was ever compromised before! - Todd
Edmonds: There were bin Ladens, with the help of Pakistanis or Saudis, under our management. Marc Grossman was leading it, 100 percent, bringing people from East Turkestan into Kyrgyzstan, from Kyrgyzstan to Azerbaijan, from Azerbaijan some of them were being channeled to Chechnya, some of them were being channeled to Bosnia. From Turkey, they were putting all these bin Ladens on NATO planes. People and weapons went one way, drugs came back. - pepsi
worth repeating: "From Turkey, they were putting all these bin Ladens on NATO planes. People and weapons went one way, drugs came back." - pepsi
Edmonds: When I saw that Obama’s choice of chief of staff was Rahm Emanuel, knowing his relationship with Mayor Richard Daley and with the Hastert crowd, I knew we were not going to see positive changes. Changes possibly, but changes for the worse. It was no coincidence that the Turkish criminal entity’s operation centered on Chicago. - pepsi
Furthermore I am not going to lay off 'organized jewry' for the sake of 'innocent Jews' who let themselves be used as shields for the Fifth Column to prevent that Fifth Column from being destroyed in this country. - American
Earlier in the interview, Edmonds suggests Chicago Mayor Richard Daley was involved: "They needed Schakowsky and her husband Robert Creamer to perform certain illegal operational facilitations for them in Illinois. They already had Hastert, the mayor, and several other Illinois state senators involved. " - pepsi
It's all one Jewish organized crime family. That's Jewish values, conquer by any means necessary and deny all the way. - pepsi
So Rahm replaces Daley as Chicago mayor, and Daley's brother replaces Rahm as Chief of Staff for Obama. - pepsi
The U.S. media always presented the Russian mafia as an extension of the Russian military or the KGB, rather than as an ethnic racket, for obvious reasons. I'm sure that some high ranking KGB officials and military commanders got kickbacks for allowing the Russian military infrastructure to be used for criminal purposes, but I don't think the military officials and soldiers were the... more... - Todd
The Turks only wanted the Iraq war if they could occupy Kurdistan, which they didn't get. Obama now air dropping arms to the PKK Kurds is pissing off the Turks, so I'm happy about that. - pepsi
You guys recall that Fox News investigative series about the Israeli crime ring in LA wiretapping ALL levels of law enforcement to avoid investigation. - pepsi
in LA? NOOOOOO, NOT MY PRECIOUS HOLLYWOOD! - JustTheFactsPlease
from jtfp's link: "The activities of the Russian mafia range from the back streets of Moscow to the sex dens of Budapest and Tel Aviv, from thediamond mines of Sierra Leone to the jewelry workshops of Antwerp, from the plush casinos of Vegas and Atlantic City to themultimillion dollar gated mansions of Fisher Island, Miami, from the coke and heroin dives of Odessa and the Black Seaports... more... - pepsi
from wiki: Steven H. Cymbrowitz (born November 14, 1953)[1] is a Democratic member of the New York State Assembly representing Assembly District 45, which consists of Brighton Beach, Manhattan Beach and Midwood, among other communities located in the borough of Brooklyn. - pepsi
"Cymbrowitz currently serves as Secretary to the Assembly's Majority Conference and chair of the Environmental Conservation Committee's Shoreline Protection Subcommittee. He is also a member of several other standing committees within the Assembly, including Agriculture, Codes, Health, Housing, Insurance and Steering." - pepsi
**** "He is currently married to Vilma Huertas,[2] the Secretary to the Board of New York City Housing Authority." - pepsi
Poor Sean attributes all this infiltration to 'Jewish exceptional abilities' not to the 'mafia and ethnic networking' it is. What do you suppose would happen if Goys took up the same tribal and ethnic and mafia practices? Probably be nothing but Goys would be left in the US. If the US State of Virginia had been the Jews' promised home land in 1948 and they had moved in and run the natives out there would probably also be no Jews left alive today. - American
McBride religiously think Jews are really special. Everything he says flows from that sacred belief system. - pepsi
Max Blumenthal would respond the same way, and try to shut down any such speech. - pepsi
from jtfp's link: The roots of Jewish organized crime go far back into tsarist times. Organized crime syndicates assisted Lenin’s gangs in bank robberies and the creation of general mayhem. During the so-called revolution, it was difficult, sometimes impossible, to distinguish between Bolshevik ideologues and Jewish organized crime syndicates. They acted in nearly an identical manner…. - pepsi
American, this might have been a big reason the rich Jews funded the creation of Israel: "The state of Israel is a major factor in the rise and power of the Jewish mafia. Jewish drug dealers, child porn pushers and slave traders are free from prosecution in Israel. Israel does not consider these to be crimes, so long as the victims are non-Jews. The Israeli state will not extradite its citizens to non-Jewish countries, and, therefore, Jewish murderers can quite easily escape punishment in Israel." - pepsi
My recommendation to e.v.e.r.y.o.n.e who is confronted with the a-s smear for pointing out the negative affects of the Jewish collective's *support* for "Jews First" in all things just because 'some Jews are innocent' is to say...I dont care. That is their problem. I say that because the 'not all Jews' and 'some innocent' is a *trap* --thats all it is. Dont fall in it. If 'organized... more... - American
if a jew denies there's such thing as extreme Jewish power, or such thing as a jewish conspiracy, they are no longer innocent. - pepsi
Looks like the whole text of the Robert Freidman "Red Mafiya: How the Russian Mob Has Invaded America" book is available here, by chapter: http://robert-friedman-red-maf... - pepsi
Recall that NJ Gov Christie's aide was a Genovese during the bridgegate scandal. From the intro to the Red Mafiya book: "While working on an Italian Mafia story, I was introduced by a Genovese organized crime family source in New York to several of his Russian criminal colleagues, a meeting that opened a door for me into this little known, nearly impenetrable eth­nic underworld." - pepsi
"The Russian mob has plundered the fabulously rich gold and diamond mines in war-torn Sierra Leone, built dazzling casinos in Costa Rica with John Gotti Jr., and, through its control of more than 80 percent of Russia's banks, siphoned billions of dollars of Western government loans and aid, thereby exacerbating a global financial crisis that toppled Wall Street's historic bull market in August 1998." - pepsi
"U.S. intelligence officials worry that Russian gangsters will acquire weapons of mass destruction such as fissionable material or deadly, easily concealed pathogens such as the smallpox virus — all too readily avail­able from poorly guarded military bases or scientific labs — and sell these deadly wares to any number of terrorist groups or renegade states." - pepsi
***"The Russian mob has even penetrated the National Hockey League, where many players have either been its victims or become Mafiya facilitators, helping the mob sink its roots further into American soil. There is even fear that NHL games may be fixed." - pepsi
The funny thing about Jews is that amid all their talk about pogroms and anti-Semitism, none seem to be afraid of a backlash. They are much more group oriented than most Americans, and their group agenda is like none other in power, scope and self-interest, that benefits Jews wherever they are to the harm of other Americans. I'm sure that the very wealthy Jews are pretty safe, but the majority aren't. It doesn't take a visionary to see that they would be the ones whose well-being is at risk. - Todd
Friedman wrote" The False Prophet: Rabbi Meir Kahane--From FBI Informant to Knesset Member" - Chu_
Wiki: Strongest ethnic criminal groups - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - (note: at top of the list) Russian criminal groups[edit] These mostly consist of both Slavic as well as Jewish criminals. The most well-known of these gangs is the Solntsevskaya Bratva.[40] [Chechen criminal groups are beneath the Jewish/Slavic ethnic criminal groups] - Chu_
"They first arose during the reign of Peter the Great (1682-1725), incubated in the vast archipelago of Russia's prison camps. There, hard-core felons banded together in tight networks that soon spread throughout the Gulags. Members were sworn to abide by a rigid code of behavior that included never working in a legitimate job, not paying taxes, refusing to fight in the army, and never, for any reason, cooperating with the police or State, unless it was to trick them." - pepsi
"Skilled pickpockets received immense respect from other criminals, and were often accorded leadership status in their gangs. Polish Jewish thieves who came to Russia during World War II were considered the best pick­pockets, Elson says. They could slip a wallet out of a jacket, snatch the rubles, and return it in a split second, the victim remaining unaware." - pepsi
"Corruption in Manhat­tan's diamond district on 47th Street was so rampant at the time that the authorities had all but given up policing it. All Brokhin and Elson had to do was to identify crooked store-owners, visit their shops, and demand the goods. "We tried to rob thieves," Elson says. They knew that their "victims" were so deep into their own crimes that they'd never call the... more... - pepsi
"Agron's criminal authority was bolstered by two highly potent allies: the Genovese crime family and Ronald Greenwald, a politically savvy, well-connected Orthodox Jewish rabbi. These connections, Agron concluded, made him invincible. More than that, without Greenwald's careful nurturing of Agron's criminal career, and the Italian Mafia's muscle, the Russian mob in America might never have been anything more than a minor annoyance, a two-bit gang of emigre hoodlums." - pepsi
"According to Benny Eggs, when a Jew had an annual income of two or three million dollars he would declare a healthy $300,000 of it on his taxes, enough to avoid raising any suspicions with federal authorities. An Italian wiseguy, on the other hand, might declare only ten grand. It was the IRS, he warned, that had nailed Al Capone." - pepsi
Israel's largest export is diamonds. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped... - Chu_
"Rabbi Ronald Greenwald did as much for Agron's career as did the Italian gangsters, and then helped groom a new generation of Russian wiseguys to enter corrupt Third World countries and loot their natural resources, a charge the rabbi denies." - pepsi
"The rabbi denies that he helped Agron enter the United States, but admits that the mobster would sometimes visit his Manhattan office. In fact his office was a magnet for a host of Russian and Italian gangsters, as well as a powerful U.S. congressman and a convicted KGB spy." - pepsi
"it was as a political operative for Richard Nixon that Greenwald first made a name for himself. The then-president had received 17 percent of the Jewish vote in 1968, and he wanted to double it in 1972. New York, with its huge Jewish population, was a crucial state. And Green­wald, as one 1971 New York Times story put it, was "key to [Nixon's] New York effort." Greenwald was recruited by CREEP—the Committee to Reelect the President—to mine for Orthodox Jewish votes." - pepsi
"A few years later, he was in front of (prosecutor Rudy) Giuliani again, this time pleading for Marc Rich and Pinky Green—the billion­aire fugitive financiers and commodities brokers who fled the United States in 1983 one step ahead of a sixty-five-count federal indictment for fraud and income tax evasion. Greenwald, who was their business representative in the United States, tried to cut a deal that would bring them home to face civil, but not criminal, charges." - pepsi
Wait till you see my next hot potatoe subject.... its gonna give Sean a heart attack. - American
"They assassinated ... and an elderly man, who was chased across a busy boulevard in Queens and shot twice in the head for refusing to vacate his rent-stabilized apartment." - pepsi
"By 1985, Balagula was well on his way to becoming the undisputed king of American (gasoline) bootleggers: his domain was a self-contained, vertically integrated behemoth that included oceangoing tankers, seven terminals, a fleet of gasoline trucks, truck stops (including even their greasy spoon diners), and more than one hundred gas stations, all operated by fiercely loyal Soviet Jewish emigres. Balagula even negotiated to take over oil-refining terminals in Eastern bloc countries" - pepsi
"Balagula's headquarters in New Rochelle, New York—which ironically stood next to an FBI building — looked like a scene in a Stanley Kubrick black comedy." - pepsi
Marc Rich again: "Flush with cash, Balagula began to run his empire like a profligate oil sheik. Joe Ezra, a former attorney for Balagula, once accompanied the Russian godfather and his retinue on an epicurean "business trip" to Europe, to broker oil deals with Marc Rich, the billionaire fugitive commodities trader." - pepsi
**"From Brighton Beach, he and his cronies virtually ran the small, diamond-rich West African nation of Sierra Leone, whose president, Joseph Momoh, allowed the Russian mob­sters to set up a global smuggling and money laundering operation there. Diamonds smuggled out of Sierra Leone were transported to Thailand, where they were swapped for heroin, which was then distributed in Europe by Balagula's close friend Efim Laskin" - pepsi
American
Without a two-state solution, Americans will challenge Zionism itself For all his references to Derek Jeter and 'Gone with the Wind,' Benjamin Netanyahu doesn't understand Americans as well as he thinks he does.'' http://www.haaretz.com/opinion... --Peter Beinart
Peter Beinart doesn't understand Americans as well as he think he does either. - American
American
When a top GOP foreign-policy aide ( Zionist Member of the Emergency Committee for Israel) met a well-connected white nationalist at a mountain ski resort http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...
''' This time, with ample evidence to back his case, Scheuneman complained to the club’s organizers, outraged that they had offered someone (especially a highly controversial public figure) full membership without consulting other members, an apparent breach of protocol. And so Scheunemann offered an ultimatum: Kick Spencer out, or he would leave. - American
The club chose to keep Spencer. None of its leaders responded to queries from The Daily Beast. Asked for comment, Spencer replied, “Randy Scheunemann has given you a gross mischaracterization of events. However, I will not elaborate for the simple reason that this is a private matter involving a private organization. I refuse to bring private matters into a public discussion.” Asked if... more... - American
Zio picks fight with White Nationalist---Zio loses. lol - American
I could def. see Kirchick taking over for Abe foxman in the future. He's too young to be such a paranoid pansy. - Chu_ from Android
I think I see a 'trend' developing or on the 'cusp' of developing. Will elaborate later. - American
A jew complaining about racism, thats rich considering the racial supremacism that is attached to pretty much all forms of judaism. - JustTheFactsPlease
Jewish politics is anti-white and very racial, whether it is progressive, libertarian or neoconservative. The Republican base is white, but the party is run by a very hostile national elite. Middle and lower class whites have no place in the Democratic party, unless they are women or toadies. Something has to give. Eventually the Jewish presence on the Right is going to lead to a big blow up. What else could happen? - Todd
Not anti white, but anti establishment. Jewish people are some of the pastiest white people out there. That bolshevik spirit keeps them trying to conquer all coupled with their phony American liberalism. - Chu_ from Android
Ask a jew if they think are white - JustTheFactsPlease
jtfp - I've heard them say that, distancing themselves from their skin color. lol. I'm not white, but Jewish. White culture aint cool enough for some of them. - Chu_
If I've heard it once, I've heard it a thousand times, where a Jew will rail against the white man. How much of Jewish politics, from immigration to civil rights and racial politics, in general, has been nothing more than an attempt to weaken the majority to benefit the tribe? It's always the same: identify a moral shortcoming in an opponent and exploit it for all it's worth, while... more... - Todd
Sean McBride
President Rivlin: Time to admit that Israel is a sick society that needs treatment - http://www.jpost.com/Israel-...
President Rivlin: Time to admit that Israel is a sick society that needs treatment
"The time has come to honestly admit that Israel is a sick society, with an illness that demands treatment, President Reuven Rivlin said at the opening session on Sunday of the Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities’ conference on ‘From Hatred of the Stranger to Acceptance of the Other’." - Sean McBride from Bookmarklet
Seriously, they aren't ever going to admit to the sick parts of Jewish culture and we have all seen that it isn't just confined to Jews in Israel, its been supported by Jews from around the world. Its bigger than just Israel. The nazis facing hanging for war crimes went to the gallows still doing their 'Heil Hitler" - American
Good that there is an emerging voice of moderation, but I think Israel is trending toward a darker path indefinitely. some things on Rivlan 1. supporter of minority rights in Israel 2. For 1 state solution 3. wishes to recognize the Armenian genocide. - Chu_
American
What Should You Say to a Jew Who Claims that (No) Jews in their Entire History Ever Committed an Act Against a Others Group that Justifiably Caused some Other to Oppose Them?
To make that claim for any group of humans is the most insane thing I have ever heard. It boggles the rational mind. But that's what they claim. - American
You're asking for the impossible, American - you know damn well they're umbilicaly attached to their victimhood and for that there is no known cure. - Taxi
American
Christian Evangelicals Push Aliyah — and Jews Are Concerned Born Again Group Set To Launch Mass Aliyah Read more: http://forward.com/article...
lol...come into my web said the spider to the fly. Mirror, mirror on the wall, whose the smartest of them all...the Zios or the Evangelicals? - American
American
Christian Evangelicals Push Aliyah — and Jews Are Concerned Born Again Group Set To Launch Mass Aliyah http://forward.com/article...
lol...come into my web said the spider to the fly. Mirror, mirror on the wall, whose the smartest of them all...the Zios or the Evangelicals? - American
Sean McBride
# accusers of antisemitism
1. Abraham Foxman 2. ADL 3. Alan Dershowitz 4. Ari Shavit 5. Atlas Shrugs 6. Benjamin Netanyahu 7. Caroline Glick 8. Commentary Magazine 9. Daniel Greenfield 10. Daniel Pipes 11. David Horowitz 12. Einat Wilf 13. Elie Wiesel 14. Frontpage Magazine 15. James Kirchick 16. Jamie Glazov 17. Jeffrey Goldberg 18. John Podhoretz 19. Lee Smith 20. Leon Wieseltier 21. Mark Oppenheimer 22. Martin Peretz 23. Matti Friedman 24. Melanie Phillips 25. Michael Rubin 26. Mike Huckabee 27. Naftali Bennett 28. New Republic 29. Pamela Geller 30. Richard Perle 31. Robert Wistrich 32. Shmuley Boteach 33. Simon Wiesenthal Center 34. Tablet Magazine 35. William Kristol - Sean McBride
Nothing does more to inflame real antisemitism than false accusations of antisemitism. - Sean McBride
HOWEVER: if you are boiling over with violent rage towards "the Jews" -- all of them -- and have no interest in any other aspects of the world -- you may in fact be a real antisemite. /understatement - Sean McBride
Atzmon thinks that Jewish culture is very closed and that it explains Israeli nationalism. Max Blumenthal, Adam Horowitz and others respond that Atzmon is anti-semitic. Is their position that criticizing Jewish culture and connecting it with nationalism is anti-semitic? - WJones
I would love to see an online discussion about these issues between Gilad Atzmon on the one side and Max Blumenthal, Adam Horowitz and Phil Weiss on the other. I am not sure that Max, Adam and Phil possess the confidence to undertake such a debate. - Sean McBride
Sure, Atzmon could write to the signers of the petition against him and invite them to a debate over whether he is A-S. But I don't think it would go anywhere. I think that the debate boils down to what I wrote in the last paragraph, except that Atzmon's detractors are not going to lay it out that way- they are not going to say that considering Jewish culture to have a closed mentality is anti-semitic, right? However, I think that their debate would (and does) basically revolve around that issue. - WJones
They cant even win that debate with MW commenters. There is no such thing as 'inherent anti semitism' , there is no such thing as inherited hatred of blacks--there is no hate 'gene'. And there is no such thing as being persecuted 1001 times for 21 centuries by e.v.e.r.y.o.n.e without at least once bringing some of it yourself. Both of these fallacies are 'learned' and 'taught.' - American
So far, from my perspective, they have been vague and evasive on these issues -- not substantive and rational. Atzmon is a no-nonsense straight shooter and fairly serious thinker. - Sean McBride
Highly recommended on this subject: [book; Bernard Lazare; Antisemitism: Its History and Causes; 1894 https://www.marxists.org/referen...] - Sean McBride
I need to pull together some key Bernard Lazare quotes. - Sean McBride
If you are wound-up, messianic, chauvinistic, belligerent, xenophobic and paranoid about your ethnic identity, you will provoke strong pushback -- this is basic human nature. There is nothing mysterious about it -- nothing could be more predictable. - Sean McBride
Bernard Lazare: "If this hostility, this repugnance had been shown towards the Jews at one time or in one country only, it would be easy to account for the local causes of this sentiment. But this race has been the object of hatred with all the nations amidst whom it ever settled. Inasmuch as the enemies of the Jews belonged to divers races, as they dwelled far apart from one another,... more... - Sean McBride
A controversial quote, to say the least, and one that I neither embrace nor condemn. What I would like to see are some strong arguments making the case that that passage doesn't make sense or is irrational. It certainly appears to be sensible on its face. - Sean McBride
Any party that keeps running into the same pattern of conflict in every time and place all around the world probably bears some responsibility for what is going on. The argument that everyone in the world but that party is solely to blame doesn't make much sense. - Sean McBride
I read the Bernard Lazare link material you posted the other day. I think he's honest up to a point in admitting to Jewish cultural faults. What I didnt admire was he then tried to "justify" bad Jewish traits like greed and deception toward goys by saying basically Jews had 'no choice' because of their ghettorized condition. Which was really like going full circle back to saying... more... - American
Its bit of the pilpul again. Set up the faults of the collective. But maintain the 'core' truth that the collective is what others made, not what Jews made it. - American
I haven't read the second half of Lazare's book yet -- I will later this week. I can't comment until then. - Sean McBride
I dont think that Lazare quote is controversial at all......its totally logical and rational. Much like the question I just posted---what do you say to someone who believes that there exist a 'group of humans' who never transgressed against another group and were always persecuted for no reason every time. No such humans exist on earth. - American
Can you imagine if, say, Andrew Sullivan were as obsessed about Irish nationalist issues as, say, Jeffrey Goldberg is about Jewish nationalist issues? Would Goldberg quickly come to feel that Sullivan is a tiresome and obnoxious human being? Especially in the *American* context? - Sean McBride
The main point: obsessive-compulsive ethnic nationalists like Jeffrey Goldberg bear a large responsibility -- arguably the primary responsibility -- for the ethnic conflicts in which they find themselves endlessly embroiled. Once again, this is a psychological issue -- a psychological problem. People like Goldberg have no perspective on their own behavior. They are always wailing away on the other -- on their eternal enemies. - Sean McBride
Taxi
Richest 1% of people own nearly half of global wealth, says report: http://www.theguardian.com/busines...
At some point in acquiring wealth beyond any possible need for more of it and not using it for anything except to make more money it becomes the avarice disease. - American
American
When a top GOP foreign-policy aide--(a Zionist member of the Emergency Committee for Israel) met a well-connected white nationalist at a mountain ski resort, a long-simmering right-wing feud almost came to blows http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...
Jewish Zio picks fight with White Nationalist---Zio loses. - American
This time, with ample evidence to back his case, Scheuneman complained to the club’s organizers, outraged that they had offered someone (especially a highly controversial public figure) full membership without consulting other members, an apparent breach of protocol. And so Scheunemann offered an ultimatum: Kick Spencer out, or he would leave. - American
The club chose to keep Spencer. None of its leaders responded to queries from The Daily Beast. - American
# Randy Scheunemann's associations 1. 9/11 exploiters 2. Afpak War ringleaders 3. Clash of Civilizations 4. CLI (Committee for the Liberation of Iraq) 5. FPI (Foreign Policy Initiative) 6. Global War on Terror 7. Iraq War ringleaders 8. Israel 9. Israel lobby 10. Jewish lobby 11. Jewish nationalists 12. Jewish neoconservatives 13. Joe Lieberman 14. John McCain 15. Likud Zionists 16.... more... - Sean McBride
Are Randy Scheunemann and his fellow neocons in a position to complain about the ethnic nationalism of anyone else without being laughed at? - Sean McBride
I think I see a 'trend' developing or on the 'cusp' of development. And I think it comes from a long private 'simmering' resentment among nationalist, patriots, whites....that has begun to put down or spit back at the other elite supremacist. Don't have time to elaborate on this with examples but there are lots of little episodes of put downs or ignoring the Scheuneman types in the '' non headline' news here, there and yonder. - American
The Zios are losing their----'you're a racist or you're a anti semite---attacks on people more and more frequently.. .particulary in Europe law venues, cant think of a one they've won in last yr or two. And now they losing in US private 'social' circles. - American
What could be a more losing strategy, from the standpoint of good social relations, than being abusive, belligerent, confrontational and demanding about one's ethnic nationalist issues with ethnic outsiders? That kind of behavior is guaranteed to turn off nearly everyone. - Sean McBride
American
http://www.jspacenews.com/unique-... A Unique Program Brings US Veterans to Israel to Talk and Heal
''Heroes to Heroes, based in New Jersey, sends American veterans with PTSD and injuries to meet IDF. - American
The filthiest parasitic scum the universe has ever known. Get them out of my country. - American
They should take these vets on a mourning tour of the Gaza prison camp and then in the afternoon the occupied West Bank. - Chu_ from Android
American
Wonder if this comment will make the cut or be censored to protect the Mooser-Annie team.
Annie says..... ''I don’t know what you arguing here—that Jews aren’t really Jews if they don’t follow Judaism—- or they are—or what?..American ) american, that’s not what mooser is arguing, it’s what you think as evidence by IMO Jewishness is defined by religion –do they or don't they practice Judaism. while you might be powerless to change the way “any Jews define or want to think of themselves.” you are not powerless to change the way you think about it. so we’ve all witnessed time and again in these threads right wing jews ‘de-jewing’ secular jews, claiming they are not really jewish and ideas like that based on whether they meet certain criteria like support for zionism or religion or whatever and the way it appears to me here you are basically agreeing with them. and mooser makes the point “And of course, you are powerless to change anything about it, even the way you think about it” and your response is yes?]] ------> American says......''Well annie you arent "getting it"... more... - American
Lets see if it gets passed. - American
When Annie intervenes to speak for Mooser, to defend him, she makes both of them look ridiculous -- Mooser comes across as weak and pathetic (hiding behind Annie's skirts) and she comes across as an annoying and uninformed busybody. - Sean McBride
Annie knows very little about the intellectual history of Judaism or Zionism and is utterly incoherent on the subject -- but she is strongly opinionated on those topics for reasons that that are quite mysterious. It's a waste of time trying to pursue a rational discussion with her on these issues -- she has no interest in educating herself about them. - Sean McBride
Annie should NOT be moderating conversations on Mondoweiss in which she is an emotional participant -- she has a track record of abusing her power in those situations by holding up or deleting the posts of those she is debating. - Sean McBride
On other topics, Annie's posts are solid and valuable -- but this is rather an important topic to deal with fairly and intelligently -- the ideological linkages between Judaism and Zionism. As for Mooser, he knows absolutely nothing about the topic -- but he can become hysterical about it with the slightest challenge. Crazy stuff. - Sean McBride
American -- the tone that Annie strikes in discussions about these topics is bizarre -- strident and bullying -- as if she were an *authority* on these issues -- not someone who knows next to nothing about them. Something is going on there that isn't immediately apparent. - Sean McBride
It is bizarre how she jumps in on Moosers fights and Mooser cant even really make a coherent case for anything. Read his comments to me and how they dont even fit whatever I said, they are just' picking' comments to start something. - American
I think though we can say its really not bizarre---its a pattern, so there is some established agreement between them ---OR---annie was moderating that thread --where she btw, had not made a previous comment--and decided to defend Mooser and insult me. - American
I have noticed that anytime you forget to ' praise' annie for one of her articles and then somewhere in threads make a comment that isnt totally agreeing or in line with whatever conclusion she made about the subject she will jump on you and insult you......very, very unprofessional..she's done that to me several times in a venomous manner when I wasnt even addressing her but some other commenter. ..so be it, I will ignore her and her articles from here on---if I last on MW. - American
Tell them this old Russian proverb: "The yes-man is your enemy, but your friend will argue with you." - Chu_
Mooser doesn't make arguments, he throws his Jewish spaghetti that is always bubbling and over cooking in his Jewish navel at commenters to provoke both gentiles and other Jews. - American
i know what you mean. He's a joker and deflects a lot of stuff. did he ever explain why he went on a sabbatical last year? Seems like he might have even read a book or two during his absence. - Chu_
Has anyone ever seen Mooser express any compassion for or make a comment about the Palestines? Nope, he's never made one. Cases closed, he is exactly what Sean has said he is...an ethnocentric on steroids. I asked him once if he ever had cause I couldn't find one but he wouldn't answer. He might as well be a Zionist because his only concern is what happens to him and just switch the zionist obsession with protecting Israel to Mooser's obsession with protecting his Judaism and there you have it. - American
dunno - see link. http://mondoweiss.net/profile... mooser seems like he's there to ridicule zionists, but I haven't been reading MW in a while. He was funny taking on Wondering Jew, Witty, and a lot of others. - Chu_
Yea he does ridicule zionist----out of his jewish self interest.....he's definitely not a Max B. or a Seigler who are standing up for 'right'...instead of jewish identity. - American
Listen to this talk by Max......http://media.lannan.org/podcast... - American
Well my reply isnt up but Mooser did send his thanks to annie .....Mooser October 16, 2014, 3:40 pm...... Thanks so much, Annie. And American, always remember, Jews are just like other people, only more so. ''..Unfortunately he has now disappeared. I was going to be the bigger person and try to help his painful lying problems by calling The National Park Service and having them go look for a Moose with his antlers stuck up his ass. But with no location I don't know where to send them. - American
Annie tilts MW moderation to help and protect Mooser as much as possible -- and he needs all the help and protection he can get in straightforward debates about substantive issues. It's a rigged game. - Sean McBride
Mooser has one issue and one issue only: the threat that Zionism represents to Jews generally and to a particular Jew, himself. All of his posts are obsessively ethnocentric and Jewish-centric. Outgroups and their problems don't appear to register on his consciousness. Critical analysis of Judaism and Jewish issues by non-Jews greatly agitates him -- causes his sense of humor to evaporate. Then we see a grim moose indeed. - Sean McBride
Thank you, American, for the podcast. It's shocking and horrifying to hear the stories from a witness. Max states that he was told by many Palestinians, "You're an American. Your country is responsible."......absolutely. - weareone
O.K. now I am done with those two. - American
@ annie .... Evidently you dont have the ability or didnt take the time to follow the ‘evolution of my comment and explanation —–>’ on the evolution of Jewish identity or culture from a religious one to one that is not based on religion for all Jews. I have no respect for people who deliberately waste other commenters time and deliberately misrepresent what they say when they are giving... more... - American
@ Mooser.....'No, I am perfectly capable of changing my opinions on new information—that is why I said my view was always that Jews were those who practiced Judaism. But due to the discussions here on how and what different Jews define themselves as, I believe a Jewish culture exist and that is how some Jews define themselves–by the culture, not the religion. The HISTORICAL FACT however... more... - American
I would love for these two to venture here where they have no MW protection and try to defend their statements...but they are too cowardly to do it. - American
American -- Mooser and Annie are extremely emotional in these exchanges, but about what? They come across as confused and incoherent whenever the issue of the ideological linkages between Judaism and Zionism arises. Since this debate first erupted on Mondoweiss, the argument that Judaism is facing a historic crisis over Zionism has gone mainstream -- there is nothing controversial about it. But Mooser and Annie have done everything in their power to try to torpedo that conversation on Mondoweiss. Why? - Sean McBride
'' But Mooser and Annie have done everything in their power to try to torpedo that conversation on Mondoweiss. Why?...Sean)....You've already nailed Mooser's case. Annie's problem I dont know. What got me so inflamed is wasting my time explaining in detail first to Mooser and then to her my opinion on religious and nonreligious Jews---and then it going right over their stupids heads---or they 'pretended' it went over their heads just to keep up their passive aggressive tag team act on another commenter.. - American
I raised the issue several times on MW of the responsibility of the larger Jewish community for Zionism and the response was silence. They seem to avoid that discussion, perhaps by design. - weareone from iPhone
After I had spent 3 comments saying that I was raised to see Jews as member of a religion not as a race or ethnic---. BUT--- that I believed there was a 'Jewish culture' and traditions that *evolved* over the centuries that had its 'nucleolus' in the' shared' religion----AND that Jews who were not religious identified as Jews because of that 'Jewish culture' not because of Judaism. How... more... - American
All of us regularly engage in vigorous debate with one another on Mondoweiss without the need for protection from a moderator, with a single exception -- Mooser. Annie has repeatedly intervened on Mondoweiss to do Mooser's debating for him. - Sean McBride
I commented long ago on my position on Jews and all other 'identities' which Phil in a rare comment to me agreed with entirely. It was that people can 'define themselves however they want to. If someone has parents or ancestors who practiced Judaism even though he doesn't but he identifies as a Jew due to family heritage--then he's a Jew. If someone born of Jewish parent who doesn't... more... - American
What Mooser and annie try to do is 'bully' commenters into accepting them as authorities. Both of them are stupid. If annie trots out her little wiki def of 'ethnics' one more time I will throw up.'Ethics' and 'cultures dont spring up like grass from out of nowhere. They begin with something 'shared' and the something shared for Jews that 'evolved' into what they call their 'ethnic--was in the beginning, Judaism. - American
Mooser and Annie are trying to pretend that Judaism and the Jewish religious establishment bear no responsibility for Zionism and Israeli policies -- but the truth is that Judaism and Zionism have melded into a single ideological movement and political interest -- with the full cooperation and encouragement of all the leading Jewish religious organizations -- Orthodox, Conservative and... more... - Sean McBride
When Annie sees comments which challenge her views on this issue, often she simply deletes them. She and Mooser are unable to engage in meaningful conversation about this topic. - Sean McBride
If Annie is a paid employee of Mondoweiss and Cersa (Center for Economic Research and Social Change) http://cersc.org/ perhaps there are guidelines set by CERSA that she need to adhere to? Donald is probably on that payroll as well. ~listening to the podcast now, thanks. Max is getting a lot better public speaking, crowd is laughing. - Chu_
There was no such people as "Jews' until Judaism--that is a absolute historical fact. No ' ethnicity' of Jews existed before Judaism. The pagans that took up Judaism were Arabs who themselves were actually a mixture of different 'ethnics' from the ME....i.e... Arab, Persian, Greek, even Asian. I seriously doubt those two have ever cracked a real history book on origins in the ME. - American
A serious problem with all Abrahamic religions is that they consign all humanity that came before Abraham, billions of people who'd lived for hundreds of thousands of years before him - all them people are consigned to the fires of hell for not believing in the one god. - Taxi
American, there was no judaism when Abraham was around (if he ever existed). Abraham did not call himself a 'jew' or a 'hebrew' or an 'israelite'. These definitions came much later from ancient pagan Arabs who abandoned the multi-gods of paganism for the one god idea. - Taxi
American
A Unique Program Brings US Veterans to Israel to Talk and Heal Jspace News-11 hours http://www.jspacenews.com/unique-...
Heroes to Heroes, based in New Jersey, sends American veterans with PTSD and injuries to meet with IDF. - American
pepsi
Obama Appoints Ron Klain as Ebola 'Czar' Former White House Official Is a Top Jewish Lawyer Read more: http://forward.com/article...
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I'd love to be skeptical, but I can't help but trust that face. - pepsi
2011: Ron Klain, Biden's chief of staff, resigns to join Case Holdings http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn... - pepsi
Klain was also chief of staff for Vice President Al Gore. He was a partner at O'Melveny & Myers LLP, chief of staff to the U.S. attorney general and associate counsel to President Bill Clinton. - pepsi
O'Melveny & Myers los angeles professionals http://www.omm.com/profess... - pepsi
washington, dc professionals http://www.omm.com/profess... - pepsi
look at how many attorneys there are, i cant but what wonder if the lower level ones even make enough to pay off their student loans AND their rent in LA - JustTheFactsPlease
this article doesn't use the word "lawyer" until 6th paragraph http://news.yahoo.com/obama-t... - pepsi
I have come to the conclusion that some right wing Obama haters might be right ,he really does hate America and white people.. He cant appoint anyone to anything that is not either black or jewish or hispanic. When 99% of all your presidential appointments to government positions come from 3 minorities and 1% from the majority population I think that speaks for itself and is beyond obvious. - American
Why isn't it a NIH doctor? - MRW_8
why do you think? - JustTheFactsPlease
CNN described him as a 'spin doctor'---an operative who 'knows how DC works'. - American
ChasMark
Veep’s 44-year-old son caught coked-up - [posted day before Veep's CoS named Ebola czar] - http://www.unz.com/isteve...
"WASHINGTON (AP) — Hunter Biden, the youngest son of Vice President Joe Biden, has been kicked out of the military after testing positive for cocaine, two people familiar with the matter said Thursday. The Navy said that Biden, a former lobbyist who works at a private equity firm, was discharged in February — barely a year after he was selected for the part-time position as a public affairs officer in the Navy Reserve. … Two people familiar with the situation said Biden, 44, was discharged because he failed a drug test last year. …" - ChasMark from Bookmarklet
Is Biden taking steps to run for pres 2016? - ChasMark
I am not surprised. Biden is a zero, an idiot who has made his living off the political club all his life. And then used his political club to get his son jobs. Father a incompetent idiot--son a incompetent, spoiled idiot. - American
Sean McBride
The Neocons — Masters of Chaos | Consortiumnews (Robert Parry) - http://consortiumnews.com/2014...
The Neocons — Masters of Chaos | Consortiumnews (Robert Parry)
"If you’re nervously watching the stock market gyrations and worrying about your declining portfolio or pension fund, part of the blame should go to America’s neocons who continue to be masters of chaos, endangering the world’s economy by instigating geopolitical confrontations in the Middle East and Eastern Europe. Of course, there are other factors pushing Europe’s economy to the brink of a triple-dip recession and threatening to stop America’s fragile recovery, too. But the neocons’ “regime change” strategies, which have unleashed violence and confrontations across Iraq, Syria, Libya, Iran and most recently Ukraine, have added to the economic uncertainty." - Sean McBride from Bookmarklet
"This neocon destabilization of the world economy began with the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 under President George W. Bush who squandered some $1 trillion on the bloody folly. But the neocons’ strategies have continued through their still-pervasive influence in Official Washington during President Barack Obama’s administration." - Sean McBride
"The neocons and their “liberal interventionist” junior partners have kept the “regime change” pot boiling with the Western-orchestrated overthrow and killing of Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi in 2011, the proxy civil war in Syria to oust Bashar al-Assad, the costly economic embargoes against Iran, and the U.S.-backed coup that ousted Ukraine’s elected President Viktor Yanukovych last February." - Sean McBride
At some point, neoconservatives will come to be defined as the most dangerous enemy ever faced by the West (America and Europe). An easy call. - Sean McBride
That's Victoria Nuland in the photo. - Sean McBride
Not to be a alarmist about yet another sector---- but I would tell people to watch carefully and maybe move money they have in the market to something else. I took all mine out the end of September. I don't think a crash is happening any time soon but I do think here going to be another REIT failure related to WS securitizing rental units bought up the foreclosure storm. 48 % of... more... - American
ChasMark
@ American on mwff - The Times of Israel: UK Jewish leaders slam MP for attacks on Israel, ‘poisonous slur’ against British Jews vis a vis Max Blumenthal http://media.lannan.org/podcast... http://dlvr.it/7CsM5V https://twitter.com/Timesof... (via http://friendfeed.com/mondowe...)
American wrote: "I am willing to attack to attack the Jewish community, even though not all of them support Israel. The reality in the world is that if you "are part of a group' you will suffer the fallout of your leaders actions. ..fair or not fair that's how the world works. It is the tactic of leadership to punish the collective of another to push them to change or overthrow their leadership..whether its sanctions on the Iraq people or sanctions on the Iranian people or whoever. - American - ChasMark
AND " I have no objection to instilling some 'fear' in the Jewish community that if they don't overthrow their Zionist leadership they will suffer the eventual consequences. 'If' they do not have some fear of lose or fear of punishment they have no incentive to change their collective support and attitudes in zionism.....just like Israel has none. - American - ChasMark
AND " For people that are motivated primarily by 'self interest' fear is the only deterrent that can make them back off taking advantage of others. If you feed and bolster their specialness and self interest by assuring them they will never pay a price or suffer any lose for it then they will keep on. - American" - ChasMark
Max Blumenthal, and Amy Goodman & Phyllis Bennis are attempting to claim the mantle of "righteous Jews." But are they really? In the linked podcast, Blumenthal reveals his inner Noam Chomsky -- - ChasMark
a.) Max said this: "“Congress —- Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren voted 100% in favor [of a Resolution that Is. had right to defend itself, AFTER Is had carried out atrocities Max described] of fundraiser pressure. If money had come at them from another direction they would have voted another way. Just think about that. They’re willing to abandon millions of people to the malevolence of one of the most powerful militaries in the world because of fundraiser pressure. Who else could they abandon? Who’s next?” - ChasMark
Max says AIPAC's influence revolves around campaign funding : "If Elizabeth Warren had other funders, she might have voted differently." etc. I disagree. Izzies use numerous other pressure tactics. See Ronen Bergman: "Israel has used assassination since before it was a state and has used it more than any other state, even Stalin's Russia" -- http://www.nbcnews.com/video... The last US pres who did not genuflect to Izzy was JFK. - ChasMark
b.) Max said: "But what we need to see Israel as is not something that’s unique; it’s not uniquely bad. . . . don’t trust anyone who says Israel is uniquely evil and it’s acting against American interests; those people are seeking to cover up or conceal the kind of evils that America’s participating in. Israel is our most severe image of ourselves. Israel is the most severe image of the west and it’s what we can and will be unless we intervene. " [wild applause] - ChasMark
anybody else see the not-so-subtle shift to Blame America Firstism, and sugar-coat and rescue Israel? - ChasMark
Yep, some jew protection there, but I can bear with that as long the bulk of his talk about is about how ' demonic' Israel is. ..thats some subtle fear instilling. I dont think he's sugar coating Israel though---not going by what he's written about it. I would call him out on the' not acting against US interest' cause that is factually not true. - American
So why would he say something he knows is not true? humm....let us think. On NPR his audience on this subject is going to be mainly jewish....sooo.... he doesn't want to freak out the jews by telling them they are supporting something that works against US interest? He doesn't want to raise the Jews as Traitors canard?..which is now more of a truism than canard. - American
I as an American would have laid the traitor accusation in their laps in a non hysterical matter of fact style, with the point by point examples of it and let them freak. Max as Jew wont go quite that far even though he doesn't buy the all the jewish tribaism crap....however where he's good, he's good.....and he is good at exposing the demonic nature of Israel. - American
My youngest son was absolutely the most intractable, spoiled one of the bunch....telling him to cease his temper tantrums and act 'nice' did no good. So I took over from his indulgent mom and started telling him what he was going to lose every time he acted out in a bad manner. You're going to lose this for slamming doors, you're going to lose that for throwing things, going to lose etc... more... - American
"So why would he say something he knows is not true? humm....let us think. On NPR his audience on this subject is going to be mainly jewish....sooo.... he doesn't want to freak out the jews by telling them they are supporting something that works against US interest?" - pepsi
American, you're still giving Max too much credit. You're being a freier, just like when you waste weeks and months trying to heal mooser. - pepsi
Max: "don’t trust anyone who says Israel is uniquely evil and it’s acting against American interests; those people are seeking to cover up or conceal the kind of evils that America’s participating in. Israel is our most severe image of ourselves." - pepsi
American, do you REALLY think Max wouldn't condemn your soul as anti-semitic evil when the chips are down? - pepsi
I thought Max's talk and conversation afterward with Goodman was excellent. His description of what he saw in Gaza over this past summer's war was cool, matter-of-fact, and dispassionate. The result, in my view, was to make me recoil in horror at what they did. Sure, I heard it while it was going on. But somehow he brought the calculated barbarity home in a way that was chilling. The... more... - MRW_8
American: "I have no objection to instilling some 'fear' in the Jewish community that if they don't overthrow their Zionist leadership they will suffer the eventual consequences." - pepsi
You still think Zionism is the great problem with the Jewish community? So does McBride. - pepsi
If zionism ended tomorrow, and all the jewish orgs elected non-zio leaders, they'd still all think anybody suggesting 9/11 was an inside job are vile anti-semitic haters, and that America gets the mass media/culture/education they deserve. - pepsi
"For people that are motivated primarily by 'self interest' fear is the only deterrent that can make them back off taking advantage of others. If you feed and bolster their specialness and self interest by assuring them they will never pay a price or suffer any lose for it then they will keep on." - American - pepsi
is Max not acting out of self-interest? He's pure jewish tribalism, 2.0 version. - pepsi
Well pepsi.....I dont 'totally trust' the Jewish activist in Isr-USA-I/P---I assume even the best of them have some self interest. But I am willing to promote and praise those that don't hold back on 'exposing' Israel...the ones that are actually successful at doing that and Max has been successful at doing that. I have some 'self interest' in I/P added to my hatred of what they do... more... - American
Anybody with a soft spot for Max should re-watch this clip: http://youtu.be/M7122wG... - pepsi
They don't have "some self-interest", they are entirely hostile and detached from loyalty to the US and it's citizens. - pepsi
Max and Phil and all of the rest think they are upholding some longstanding core Jewish tradition of the prophetic, which never happened. This is a religious belief on their part, and it's a fanatical one. They'd send us all to prison for questioning the holocaust, 9/11, or the absurdity of their religious belief about superior Jewish prophetic values. - pepsi
pepsi....imo .Zionism grew out of parts of Jewish' culture' --the all others enemy and/or superior/inferior attitudes toward others and I also think there are many beliefs in Judaism along those attitudes that also gave rise to zionism. All it needed to become' legitimate ' and supported was an' event' --the holocaust was that event and excuse. If not for the holocaust I dont think it... more... - American
Zionism has been along as long as the Torah. Don't listen to McBride, because he'll try to convince you otherwise. - pepsi
Zionism = Judaism + opportunity - pepsi
every single day mcbride, mooser, phil, max and the rest try to convince us otherwise. It's easy to be seduced, but any attempts to find solutions within the Jewish tent are a freier's errand. - pepsi
"My youngest son was absolutely the most intractable, spoiled one of the bunch....telling him to cease his temper tantrums and act 'nice' did no good. So I took over from his indulgent mom and started telling him what he was going to lose every time he acted out in a bad manner...." That's exactly where I am with my son and wife. I hold out hope for him. The Jewish community is hopeless. - Todd
"Zionism = Judaism + opportunity" That's exactly right, and perfect for a protest sign, Pepsi. - Todd
We need less max blumenthals/bernie sanders/noam chomsky's, not more - pepsi
This country would be way better off if Max's core fanatical religious beliefs were aggressively challenged. Every. Fucking. Day. - pepsi
These smug "lefty" Jews convince themselves that not only is Judaism an enlightened, prophetic, justice-seeking religion, but that this enlightened state is totally compatible with their tribalism. - pepsi
The entire debate is over the heads of us goyim. Max would never question our inferiority, or his superiority. Not an ally by any stretch of the imagination. - pepsi
I think what you want to know pepsi is do I think the Jewish Collective or Tribe will ever 'change' their narcissistic and destructive of others tribal culture . No I dont think so. I dont think they can change. I think any defeat of them in their aggression for dominance over others will be whats it always been---all the fault of Jew hatred and anti semitism. They will never, ever see... more... - American
@ American: "All it needed to become' legitimate ' and supported was an' event' --the holocaust was that event and excuse. If not for the holocaust I dont think it would gotten off the ground---I don't think the nations would have financed a 'nation for Jews ' and supported it. Zionism might have ended up as a jewish 'commune' somewhere but I dont think there would have a jewish... more... - ChasMark
I know that I myself was searching for Jewish heroes for years, up until within the past year probably. Our generosity of spirit is our second worst enemy. Any "solution" that somebody like Max would support would be the solution of a gatekeeper. - pepsi
max and mooser are both way too old to be cured. And nothing is gained by supporting them other than the perpetuation of their supremacist religious fanaticism. McBride is no different at the core. - pepsi
Chas, yes I know the early history of Jews taking over in Palestine before 1948----but what I am saying is that I dont care how much money the zio bankers had they could not have financed and protected Israel and made it a recognized 'nation' without the financial aid and complicity of the nations. Do you think GB would have really have gone so far as to ask the UN to give Jews a... more... - American
balfour declaration. - pepsi
Jews were the driving force behind the League of Nations and the UN. The Balfour Declaration was addressed to Baron Rothschild. Jews had more money than anybody else, even back then. - pepsi
Weiss pushes this idea that Jews didn't join the establishment until after WW2, but it's another religious myth. - pepsi
By the 1840s the Rothschilds were the dominant power in Europe, and the world. - pepsi
American, What is GB? And I think you're mistaken about "Jewish money." Jews don't use their own money, they leverage other people's money, that's the whole interest scam. A passage in Black's "Transfer Agreement" provided an important piece of the puzzle: Black explained that in the wake of the pogrom in Russia that killed 49 Jews, Jacob Schiff was so pissed at Czar Nicholas that he 1.... more... - ChasMark
The Opium Wars were: First Opium War (1839–1842) Second Opium War (1856–1860) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - pepsi
How rich would the Rothschilds be if they had spent * 3 trillion* dollars on Isr for the past 40 years? How rich would Aldelson be if he had to replace the 5 billion (all aid and agenices aid to Israel and the 2 billion that Germany pays --7 billion a year to Israel. - American
But if you don't want to rely on that example, of Jacob Schiff, whose relatives are still in business, then consult Niall Fergusson's 2-vol biography of Rothschilds: Fergusson wrote that in the late-19th thru early 20th century Rothschilds had more power than all the leaders of Europe combined. THEY were dependent on Rothschilds for credit to wage their wars. If Rothschilds said, Go to war, it happened. If not, then the war did not happen. - ChasMark
The reason Napoleon is so annoying to Jews is because he refused to borrow to wage wars -- that's how US got Louisiana. I think it's not fully aware of Jewish money power to think Jews "needed" holocaust to funnel money into Israel. - ChasMark
Chas...exactly, it takes someones investment money to make money.....if Jews had to replace all the 'others money' that goes to Israel government to keep it going they couldn't do it for very long. There is no 'return' on money invested in government infrastructure and military. And there would even less than zero now that Isr is selling off all its government owned services.. - American
American, the Rothschild's didn't SPEND that money, they INVESTED it. Big difference. And their investments were leveraged, not flat out expenditures. - ChasMark
American, did it ever strike you as beyond coincidental that Schiff, the Rothschilds, Warburgs, set up US Federal Reserve in 1913? Does your tinfoil hat send signals that this was a way to funnel other people's money to Jewish bankers, thence to Israel? - ChasMark
And Schiff was related to the Rothschilds. He grew up in the Frankfurt house of the Red Shield. - pepsi
and in the same year they started the Fed, they introduced the income tax. - pepsi
Yes I am aware that jews tunneled other people and nations money to jews.. - American
re the link pepsi posted to Max video -- https://www.youtube.com/watch... . He keeps talking about 'liberalism' as if Jews invented it. They did not. Jews were living in ignorance & squalor, unemancipated, during the Italian Renaissance, birth of Enlightenment. Jews were not "emancipated" in France until 1789; Jefferson & Madison drafted "liberal-based" documents establishing USA over a decade earlier. Jews do not "Own" liberalism, they expropriated & distorted it. - ChasMark
I think we'll be much better off when people like Max flee somewhere else because their religious fanatacism is questioned too much and laughed at. - pepsi
"zionists" have no better friends than max, phil, mcbride, bernie sanders, etc - pepsi
Max said: "But what we need to see Israel as is not something that’s unique; it’s not uniquely bad. . . . don’t trust anyone who says Israel is uniquely evil and it’s acting against American interests; those people are seeking to cover up or conceal the kind of evils that America’s participating in. Israel is our most severe image of ourselves. Israel is the most severe image of the west and it’s what we can and will be unless we intervene. " [wild applause] - ChasMark - pepsi
I agree w/ MRW that Max's descriptions of the carnage in Gaza were compelling. I also give him credit for courage for going and remaining in harm's way, though it's hard to imagine he did not have an escape hatch. Even so --- it took guts. - ChasMark
Max's anti-zionism puts the blame on the goyim. Who needs him? - pepsi
pepsi -- how did USA BECOME that mirror image of Israel? Chas Freeman explains: http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/ht... - ChasMark
It's no fucking mystery. - pepsi
What return did the Rothschilds get on their investments on the Isr issue except their war profiterring in WWII. And that was not the same as having to carry and financed a a jewish nation for years and years. Yea they could make profit off war profiteering but not off 'paying the bills' for Israel. ...I do not make a profit off the money I pay the maid and yard man I invest that no return money cause my wife says I have to to 'keep everything going'. - American
"Yes I am aware that jews tunneled other people and nations money to jews.. - American" -- Was the USA established the same way? I honestly don't know. Did we expropriate vast sums of other people's money to set up USA? - ChasMark
well, we stole the land, which was worth vast sums of money - pepsi
chas, that chas freeman article starts with the same lies: "Over the course of centuries, the Jews of the diaspora were grievously persecuted by Christians. This experience helped to inspire Zionism. It culminated in the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust." - pepsi
Just another example of blaming zionism on the goyim. - pepsi
Jews have been war profiteers for 400 years more or less. Genoa became wealthy on the Crusades; Jews were all over Genoa, as well as the other Italian city-states that similarly became wealthy on Crusades. Jews got wealthy off Spanish colonization of Americas. Just a hunch -- you pay the maid & gardener because you can afford to; it's not a big chunk out of your assets. So your analogy... more... - ChasMark
Not in my history books, but we did pay France some small sum if memory serves for their providing us assistance in the Revol War----but paid it back. - American
I don't think we fully paid France back, and France went broke funding the american revolution, which led to the French Revolution. I could be wrong but that's my understanding - pepsi
Someone look up how much the Rothschilds are worth today out of curiousity. I read the book about them 30 years ago and then several years ago looked into it again but cant remember the details. - American
Thanks for reminding me of the Max video about Atzmon. Why did he have to say that? Atzmon is friends with Palestinians and he says that he is an anti-semite. That was fishy, and I always have been reluctant to listen to him since I heard that last year. At any rate, at least he is getting the message out there. - Chu_
how much do the rothchilds have: http://thebilzerianreport.com/how-muc... - Chu_
the passages from Freeman's Shirabi lecture that (I think) are pertinent (and yes, his curtsey to zionism is revolting): "Humanitarian law and the law of war are arguably the supreme moral artifacts of Atlantic civilization. Jewish lawyers made a disproportionate contribution to the crafting of both. The resulting legal principles were intended to deter the kinds of injuries and... more... - ChasMark
"It is, however, hard to find any principle of due process, the several Geneva Conventions, or the Nuremberg trials that has not been systematically violated in the Holy Land. Examples of criminal conduct include mass murder, extra-judicial killing, torture, detention without charge, the denial of medical care, the annexation and colonization of occupied territory, the illegal... more... - ChasMark
"These crimes have been linked to a concerted effort to rewrite international law to permit actions that it traditionally prohibited, in effect enshrining the principle that might makes right. - ChasMark
" As the former head of the Israeli Defense Forces’ (IDF) Legal Department has argued: “If you do something for long enough the world will accept it. The whole of international law is now based on the notion that an act that is forbidden today becomes permissible if executed by enough countries . . . . International law progresses through violations.” - ChasMark
"A colleague of his has extended this notion by pointing out that: “The more often Western states apply principles that originated in Israel to their own non-traditional conflicts in places like Afghanistan and Iraq, then the greater the chance these principles have of becoming a valuable part of international law.” - ChasMark
"how much do the rothchilds have: http://thebilzerianreport.com/how-muc... - Chu_" McBride, Phil, and Max would respond by saying you can't prove they are worth one red cent more than they declared in their taxes, and as such, they are minor players on the world stage. - pepsi
By minimizing Jewish power before Israel was created, these slippery jews are able to deflect attention from Jewish power, behavior, values, and responsibility for their own problems, while keeping their religious beliefs about Jews intact. - pepsi
just blame it on the holocaust and the goyim who "did" it - pepsi
"don’t trust anyone who says Israel is uniquely evil and it’s acting against American interests;" Right back at you buddy. - pepsi
Weiss and co will never cover the bigger issues at play. For one, I don't think he understands it as some of his global perspective is lefty bilge, second he has been in a Jewish centric perspective for 50 years of his life, and third anything that exposes their history is something that they have now guarded and moderated. That's why Annie and the other mods are there gatekeeping.... more... - Chu_
And don't forget Donald. what a mensch he is. - Chu_
@ pepsi: "By minimizing Jewish power before Israel was created, these slippery jews are able to deflect attention from Jewish power, behavior, values, and responsibility for their own problems, while keeping their religious beliefs about Jews intact. - pepsi" -- Jane Eisner said that https://www.youtube.com/watch... "Jews were powerless etc when they came from Europe pre... more... - ChasMark
I am running out of time but goggling some financial sources Rothschild banking has had it up and downs since WWII evidently. It got seized by the nazis who likely made off with some gold in their basement because the bank did hold its own physical gold in the bank. Got caught in the depression also. Its oil holdings were sold to Royal Dutch, its rail road interest sold to someone else.... more... - American
" That's exactly where I am with my son and wife. I hold out hope for him.''- Todd_)..LOL.. my sympathies, but they usually grow out it--- if you gently nip it in the bud before it gets totally out of hand. ... - American
American, there's a vast conspiracy to downplay Rothschild wealth and influence. It's absolutely essential to the Jewish narratives, both zionist and anti-zionist. - pepsi
I saw a program on MSNBC, I think, about the efforts of Warren Buffett and a Rothschild woman to "help the poor." It was the standard BS with the two meeting in Paris, and then later meeting in Buffett's hometown in Iowa, where he took the lady out for a cheeseburger and a milkshake. I think we'd all be better off without Buffet and the Rothschilds scheming. - Todd
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AIPAC rabbi calls for ‘militant nonviolent resistance’ to racial injustice in St. Louis - http://mondoweiss.net/2014...
Rabbi Susan Talve has supported the Israeli army in its onslaught on Gaza, but in St. Louis she supports black protesters who have no other arena than "militant nonviolent resistance" to the government there.
Progressivism is "bad for the Jews" in Israel; "good for the Jews" in the Diaspora. So where is the ethical or moral center here? Or is it all about the narrow pursuit of ethnic self-interest? - Sean McBride
'' What makes it so plausible to assume that hypocrisy is the vice of vices is that integrity can indeed exist under the cover of all other vices except this one. Only crime and the criminal, it is true, confront us with the perplexity of radical evil-- but only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core.'' Hannah Arend - American
Talve is a hypocrite, true to her kind. - American
The black community should stand with Palestine, refuse her support and expose her as a hypocrite. - weareone from iPhone
Sean McBride
The Times of Israel: UK Jewish leaders slam MP for attacks on Israel, ‘poisonous slur’ against British Jews http://dlvr.it/7CsM5V https://twitter.com/Timesof...
timeline; attacks by pro-Israel activists on British leaders - Sean McBride
# timeline; attacks by pro-Israel activists on * leaders 1. African-American 2. American 3. Arab 4. Australian 5. British 6. Christian 7. European 8. French 9. German 10. Greek 11. Iranian 12. Irish 13. Muslim 14. Norwegian 15. Russian 16. Swedish 17. Turkish - Sean McBride
JTA provides much of the raw data from which to build these revealing timelines. - Sean McBride
A more general timeline: - Sean McBride
timeline; attacks by Jewish activists on their political opponents - Sean McBride
The main pattern one notices here: many pro-Israel activists are eager to pick fights with the whole damned world -- and to keep escalating them. They seem to be addicted to apocalyptic conflict and commotion over their identity issues. We are dealing with *psychological* issues here more than strictly political, religious or ideological issues. - Sean McBride
poisonous slur - is that like one step below defamation? lol. Board of Deputies of British Jews, VP Jonathan Arkush, says '“Alan Duncan attacked the British Jewish community for defending Israel. He characterizes defending Israel as equivalent to accusing people of wanting Israel’s destruction or being anti-Semitic. This is a blatantly false allegation against the leadership bodies of the British Jewish community. It is a poisonous slur which should be retracted immediately.” - Chu_
Duncan only criticized the settlement (YESHA) projects, not 'attacked the British Jewish community for defending Israel.' This is a false equivalence. - Chu_
I am willing to attack to attack the Jewish community, even though not all of them support Israel. The reality in the world is that if you "are part of a group' you will suffer the fallout of your leaders actions. ..fair or not fair that's how the world works. It is the tactic of leadership to punish the collective of another to push them to change or overthrow their leadership..whether its sanctions on the Iraq people or sanctions on the Iranian people or whoever. - American
I have no objection to instilling some 'fear' in the Jewish community that if they don't overthrow their Zionist leadership they will suffer the eventual consequences. 'If' they do not have some fear of lose or fear of punishment they have no incentive to change their collective support and attitudes in zionism.....just like Israel has none. - American
For people that are motivated primarily by 'self interest' fear is the only deterrent that can make them back off taking advantage of others. If you feed and bolster their specialness and self interest by assuring them they will never pay a price or suffer any lose for it then they will keep on. - American
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As Kerry scrambles to prevent Palestinian action at UN, Israeli govt makes clear it will never accept Palestinian state - http://mondoweiss.net/2014...
Palestinians leaders will likely table a United Nations Security Council resolution calling for an Israeli deadline to set borders based on the June 1967 armistice line until after fall mid-term elections in the United States. Haartez’s Barak Ravid reports this week that while Palestinians have stalled, Secretary of State John Kerry is trying to prevent the initiative all together. As a last-ditch effort to stop the Palestinian plan, Kerry has sought to reprise his direct talks that collapsed earlier this year. Israeli officials abandoned that effort after the announcement of a Palestinian unity government and there are no signs they are interested in restarting talks
When the American presidential election comes round, do you think Israel will be a topic? Can AIPAC still control the message? - Chu_
I am sure AIPAC and the Israel Fifth column will control the 'puppet messengers' ..how much the public will keep buying the message is another question. Maybe more citizen voters will start losing their lunch as politicians swear their oath of loyalty to Israel and vow to spend every drop of Americans blood and treasure on it. - American
Chu_
A British Message to Israel - N Y Times Editorial Board 10/14/14 http://www.nytimes.com/2014...
Seems that the comments clearly get the picture here. Party is over for Israel, they just have to accept it that their occupation is coming to an end, whether they like it or not.- evne the editorial board of the NY times is telling Israel that they have a major problem if british lawmakers are voting for recognition of a Palestinian state- 'The vote is one more sign of the frustration many people in Europe feel about the failure to achieve an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement despite years of promises.' - Chu_
top comment: (443 recommended) David Underwood - Israel continues to steal Palestinian lands as it has done form the start. In the 40's we were taught how Israel had taken unproductive lands and made them bloom with citrus crops. What we were not told, that those unproductive lands had been olive groves, and grazing lands that had been in Palestinian families for centuries. We were... more... - Chu_
Yet NYTimes picks some terrible dreck as worthy of reading comment: (42 recommended) Mark of Greenpoint Brklyn - It's incredibly hypocritical of Europeans, a people whose continent's history is pretty much one of warfare and anti-Semitism and who did almost nothing to help Jews during World War II, to believe they have a right to tell Israel how to defend itself. - Chu_
The New York Times continues to be in a state of denial over the sentiments of its own readership on Israel. Same for the Washington Post. Why? Many high-level members of both publications are themselves passionate and emotional Zionists -- they can't deal with reality as it is. - Sean McBride
No one gives a flip about anti semitism claims any more. They have used it like Chinese water torture drip -drip on humanity's foreheads for 2000 years---now its like water off a duck's back for most people--we are immune to the whine and accusation.. - American
Graphic: 20 years of Talks Israel/Palestine http://visualizingpalestine.org/infogra... - Chu_
American
Do you remember or have any record of a MW feature article re a Jew that had converted from Judaism to Christianity ---it was either a guest article he wrote about his conversion for MW or it was an interview he gave on this and MW published--he was I think a writer or academic----I cant remember his name...and have tried every search I can think of...it would have been a year or more ago. - American
1. The conversion of Joel Kovel (Part 1) http://mondoweiss.net/2012... 2. The conversion of Joel Kovel (Part 2) http://mondoweiss.net/2012... - Sean McBride
Thanks.....appreciate it. - American
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