 |
|
| FriendFeed is the easiest way to share online. Learn more » |
Amish Schulze › Likes
"For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB)." WTF?
Mark Krynsky, LPH™ and his dog P™, Alfredo and 24 other people liked this
they're basically saying, "You love your iPhone? Well too bad for you cause you're gonna have to bend over to get a new one."
- Nathan Chase
there's no way better battery, speed, and camera is worth $600. No way in hell. Who would pay that?
- Nathan Chase
I just got off the phone with ATT They say you are eligible after 18-20 months I got mine 8/08 & I'm eligible 4/10
- Ryan Brancheau
What is a "non-qualified customer"?
- Rochelle
Rochelle - anyone who bought an iPhone 3G, with a 2-year contract
- Nathan Chase
Rochelle, people who are still locked in their 2 year contract.
- Ryan
Really no different than any other phone for which you are under cotract at a subsidized price.
- Kevin Whalen
it's still ridiculous to completely shut out every 3G user from not having a decent upgrade cost
- Nathan Chase
I for one will not be upgrading at that price. AT&T and Apple can suck it.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Akiva, agreed. I can take video already with my jailbroken 3G just fine.
- Nathan Chase
Akiva POWER!
- Christopher Harley
I heard the 3G was subsidized already so need to wait until out of contract before upgrading. Last summer I upgraded first generation to 3G without penalty but the original was not subsidized.
- Kenley Neufeld
AT&T wants a 750$ deposit from me .. They'll never get my business when I can go to TMobile pay 0$ deposit and get a G1 .. think I'll do that instead
- John Blanton
from twhirl
Damn, that sucks. I got my 3G around Christmas, I think, so I've got a while. :( I might go ahead and jailbreak mine at some point, though. I want video, damn it.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
What a heaping pile of nonsense. I've purchased an original iPhone plus an iPhone 3G for my wife, and I've been a (frustrated, but) loyal AT&T customer for over 6 years straight now. I cannot even renew my (bloated, expensive) contract and pay the contract price for a new iPhone 3GS? Infuriating. The second I spot an alternative carrier to switch my entire family to, we're running away...
more...
- Dan Dashnaw
Wait, what?
- joey
from Nambu
Dan, the problem is that ALL carriers do this. They all allow you buy a phone at a subsidized price in return for a 2 year contract. What we need is an industry wide change.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
O2 in the UK are stealing our money too. We have to pay off our excisting contract if we want the new one, then buy the new one with another 18 month new contract. Cant just pay the couple hundred pounds for the new handset, and take the 18 month on top of what we are currently outstanding from the last one. + Tethering is 15£ a month for 3gb's. No, i'll stick with my jailbreak thanks.
- Simon Wicks
I am outside the lock-in window, so I can upgrade my 1G iPhone for 199/299. Doing so now.
- Joey Gibson
Yes, Kevin - but my situation is slightly unique. I used my iPhone 1G 'upgrade' to get my wife a 3G this Christmas (her AT&T Razr was not eligible for an upgrade yet, I think - so I used mine). So, I bought the 1G at full (non-subsidized) price when it first came out, then bought a 3G at $199. And although this doesn't place me into the 'eligible' category, it certainly pisses me off. I...
more...
- Dan Dashnaw
And now my balloon is successfully deflated. :(
- Josh Haley
Just login to your AT&T Wireless account online and try to upgrade the phone. If it is eligble then it will let you select a phone. If not, if provides a date. Mine says my iPhone 3G "will be eligible for an upgrade at a discounted price on 03/25/2010.
- Kenley Neufeld
That does suck Dan, and I am no fan of AT&T, or any carrier for that matter. There business model sucks.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
Hm. My account is a Premium account through work so I get a discount on the voice plan. So I don't see that. I did find in My Profile, my contract ends 07/17.
- Rodfather
@Kevin - the business plan does suck, but I remember the massive uproar around the unsubsidized iPhone prices when it first came out (despite the fact that most other smart phones had a similar unsubsidized price point). They took a huge hit on that; "lowering" the price via contracts sold a lot more phones.
- Jennifer Dittrich
So what about those of us that bought the original, first-gen iPhone when it came out? My contract is about to be up.. do I get the subsidized price?
- Blake
Blake - You should be eligible since the first gen iPhone was not subsidized. You can check your eligibility here: http://www.apple.com/iphone... or on your AT&T account.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
thanks, Kevin!
- Blake
What a bummer.
- James Hull
Wait...is this right? Just tried to upgrade (bought my phone less than a year ago) and it says I can get the 16GB 3GS for $399, the 32GB for 499$, which is less than the OP but much more than the 299$ I thought I was going to pay. Says standard upgrade happens on 12/12/2009
- James Hull
AT&T says I can upgrade 7/19/2009, but doesn't give me a price.
- Shawn Hickman
This is a fine example of people agreeing to a contract without knowing what the contract states.
- Otto R. Radke
well I can get it for $199 on 12/13/2009. Merry Christmas to me, I guess.
- Nathan Chase
Otto, does anyone read those contracts? They are pages and pages long and you have to be a lawyer to truly understand what it says. I think this is a fine example how contracts are complete bullshit and should vanish from cell phone companies. (Not that it will change anytime soon)
- Shawn Hickman
Get used to it. If these companies get their way, you'll soon be signing similar contracts just to surf the web.
- Fleagle
@James Hull Yeah that's right. Shows the same thing for my account. Standard upgrade is when you can get it for $299.
- ronin
And yes, this type of business model has been around for years. Way before the iPhone came around. Existing users always get the short end of the stick when it comes to the latest & greatest phones. Not just an AT&T issue, you get shafted no matter which provider you're with.
- ronin
+1 ronin this is nothing new, standard upgrade pricing within a 2 year contract
- Kiran Patchigolla
This is ugly for sure.
- Louis Gray
This "standard" practice will put eventually put all carriers out of business if they don't change their business model. And it certainly won't bode well for AT&T if they lose exclusivity on the iPhone.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
@JohnnyB Lol - yeah but why would you want a G1?
- Jennifer
It would be cheaper to cancel your account, pay the cancellation fee, and then re-up fo the new phone. lol (Obviously that wouldn't work but WTF is that about?!)
- David Cook
Why would AT&T make existing 3G customers pay $300 more for a GS than new customers. This is from the Apple site: "For non-qualified customers, including existing AT&T customers who want to upgrade from another phone or replace an iPhone 3G, the price with a new two-year agreement is $499 (8GB), $599 (16GB), or $699 (32GB)."
Daniel Rowley, Amish Schulze, Robert Scoble and 11 other people liked this
Don't understand the logic. Anyone else?
- Tom Landini
I dreaded that.
- Christopher Harley
WHA???????????????
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
Existing 3G customers are only 1 year into their contract, not eligible for an upgrade. At least that's my only guess.
- Ryan
To keep the resale market from being flooded with 3Gs while they are still selling 3Gs for $99?
- Andrew Leyden
I don't remember paying more to upgrade from the Edge to the 3G last year.
- Tom Landini
They want new customers.. and not enough units? Maybe they'll drop price for existing customers later.
- Jessica Lee
Simple. Existing 3G owners are still under contract for the subsidized price they received when buying there phones last summer.
- Kevin Whalen
I just discovered that myself. I had every intention of buying the new one, but I don't know that I'm willing to spend $699, *and* be locked into another two-year contract.
- Chris Johnson
Chris, exactly, 2 year contracts are not good. If I am going to be spending over 200 bucks on a phone its going to be unlocked.
- Ryan
With the first iPhone they didnt give any discount at all. I'm still using that one and my contract expires soon - I'm looking forward to being able to take advantage of the discounted rate!
- Jennifer
I heard the original iPhone owners qualified last summer for the subsidized 3G prices, because the original iPhone was not subsidized. Now 3G users must wait until at least July 2010 to upgrade or pay the price.
- Kenley Neufeld
It looks like you have to be one full year into your contract before you're eligible for an upgrade at the regular price. So if you bought on the first day the 3G was available, you can't upgrade until July 22. See a post by someone who tried: http://theapppodcast.com/plannin...
- Tom Landini
I was going to drop the cash and upgrade, until I learned that the 3G is now on sale for $99. Mine is in perfect condition, but its resale value now sucks. So no upgrade for me this time around.
- Russell Holliman
Russell. Exactly. Current 3G owners are truly screwed by Apple devaluing the asset with this price drop. I know there are subsidies involved, but it shouldn't cost me $700 bucks to get a new phone - especially since AT&T has already has a more expensive data and voice plan for the iPhone vs. other models.
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
That is a very good point that Apple has now devalued the 8GB 3G iPhone for current owers. Though it has been 1 year since it was released.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
Just login to your AT&T Wireless account online and try to upgrade the phone. If it is eligible then it will let you select a phone. If not, if provides a date. Mine says my iPhone 3G "will be eligible for an upgrade at a discounted price on 03/25/2010."
- Kenley Neufeld
I just tried the upgrade deal at AT&T's site and got the following FAIL: There was a problem with your request. P1234: We apologize for the inconvenience, but we are unable to support this request online. Please contact Premier Support at 1-866-499-8008 Monday to Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 9 p.m. Eastern Time for assistance with your request.
- Darrell Bell
from twhirl
I just ran through the eligibility checker thing at store.apple.com, and it told me I could get a 32GB 3GS for $499, not the $699 that the fine print on the initial page said. It said I could wait until December for the regular price.
- Chris Johnson
Darrell, do you have a corporate discount of some kind on your account? I'm getting the same thing.
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
The word Logic and AT&T do not go hand in hand. This is how they make money. Much like drug dealers, you get them hooked at a low cost, but charge up the wazoo for the good stuff. Then as they go along and want more you limit them in the services they use, MMS, Tethering.. then when you do offer it, charge a monthly fee for BOTH!.
- Uncle CW™
Den't all the cellphone companies do this? If I want to upgrade my Blackberry before the end of my contract, I have to pay the full price I believe. I'm not really in that much of a hurry as my Curve has most everything I need now. The only thing missing on these earlier ones is wi-fi, but as I have unlimited data it's not that important, and the GPS has been much more useful in any case.
- Ian May
And now I've heard some 3G owners are seeing a $499 price for a 32G 3S. AT&T can charge what they want: I'm just trying to figure out the logic behind it.
- Tom Landini
I just ordered my new 32GB iPhone 3GS (upgrading from my 16GB iphone 3G model I bought Nov 2008) and the price was $499, not $699.
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
The logic behind it? Make $$$. I don't remember paying extra to upgrade from the Edge to 3G.
- Johnny
Johnny - the 1st gen iPhone was not subsidized, which is why you were eligible at the 3G subsidized/discounted price.
- Kevin Whalen
from email
If you buy an iPhone at a non-subsidized price then you should not have to sign a new 2 year contract. You sign the contract to get the subsidized price. Please correct me if I am wrong.
- Shawn Hickman
If you bought a 3G, you paid a subsidized price for it. That means that both you and AT&T paid money to Apple for that phone. AT&T was counting on your paying them your monthlies for two years. Now, you want to stop paying your monthly after one year (or less)? I can see AT&Ts point.
- Michael Markman
Filling out the paperwork for our China visas. And no, I don't have "mental diseases, venereal diseases or leprosy." Henry doesn't either.
Amish Schulze, anna sauce, Bob M. Montgomery and 7 other people liked this
What did you put down for your occupation?
- Johnny Worthington
Those contagious mental diseases are a real problem in China.
- Andrew Leahey
LOL! Well even if you did I hope you wouldn't tell us. Also are you sure about the mental diseases?
- Jessica Moss
hopefully they don't classify stupidity as a mental disease, otherwise I'll never be going to China
- BCK
That's the same reaction I had last year when applying for my visa to China. Who would tell them anyway?
- Gladys Meredith
Didn't you major in Chinese studies at Yale? They might think you're a spook. :-)
- Adi
Are you sure gadget addiction isn't a mental disease? I need to know as I'm also have a serious case.
- Robert Hafer
ugh, you should see the paperwork for the US visa waiver program. "Are you bringing snails in to the country?"
- Karl B
You will see, Korea is much simpler, but be prepared to declare that you are not bringing a crossbow with you... http://www.evernote.com/pub...
- Cesare Tagliaferri
this is what all non-americans have to fill out going to the US http://gbsfm.info/~kalleb...
- Karl B
srsly WTF does "moral turpitude" even mean? how many non-americans sitting on an airplane filling out a form know what it means?
- Karl B
Oooer- where in China are you going? Amazing place. The density of life is staggering.
- dann weatherhead
Leo, @cheifet Stewart Cheifet is in China right now!
- HamRadioActive
If you go to Beijing hit Together Bar (found at togetherbar.com) - best little hole in the wall reggae bar in town. A 5 min cab ride from Silk Street, SOHO, World Trade district
- Jonathan O
I am a "teacher"
- Leo Laporte
I dunno Leo, you might want to reconsider the mental disease one.
- Vermyndax
Anyone who spends so much time deep in tech can't be truly sane. :)
- Tony
Leo, just don't tell them you know Dvorak or Adam Curry :D
- Bob M. Montgomery
Leo, when are you going there? We'll be in Beijing from June 30th until July 11th if you fancy meeting up for a pint.
- Andy Patel
TWiT 198: Emission Accomplished - http://twit.tv/198
Tony, Mister IQ, Eric Geller and 10 other people liked this
I am sorry that guy earlier today was such a jerk. We all know your the man.
- Academic PCs
Just posted a remix of it http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Jack
Welcoming home Abby from her year in France. - http://brightkite.com/objects...
 |
Michael Hansel, Zachary TG, Brian Merriman and 6 other people liked this
welcome back!!! Going to France myself on Friday!
- Brian Appleby
Well done! welcome home Abby! hope you brought back some gillettes for your folks.
- Greg Birch
Welcome Home, Abby. LOL this is all I remember of my French class '74 Paradise, CA http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- shelter watch
I went through this with my own daughter. Trust me...she will be in culture shock for a few days.
- Jim Corkrum
Welcome back! Ya!
- Zachary TG
Has it been a year already? Ah they grow up so fast...
- Keith Fulton
Live now This Week In Tech with John C. Dvorak, Molly Wood, Becky Worley. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here....
Michael Hansel, Josh Haley, Hawklu and 22 other people liked this
Watching in Denmark
- Charbax
Everybody is looking hot.
- Ghworg
We need more than a half an hour.
- archaictree
I wish i could watch it live, but i need to save it for the subway trip tomorrow morning!
- Lasse Johnsen
ok ill watch just a bit...
- Lasse Johnsen
Hello
- Matthew
Episode name: The Glowing Molly..
- David J. Garcia
Will Wolfram Alpha replace thought? I don't know, let me ask Wolfram Alpha.
- Ghworg
Try wolfram alpha for 'blood alcohol' - brings up a nice BAC calculator
- Chris Heath
wolframalpha.com: Cliff from Cheers would have loved this
- Emmanuel Huna
Wolfram|Alpha is good for finding facts about countries, but the maps they use are horribly ugly
- Devon Blugh
Wolfram Alpha does not mean the death of thought, it means the death of research.
- A. Karl Kornel
@Lasse I feel the same way. I am a courier and try to listen while I drive around all day. It's hard to wait sometimes :D
- Amish Schulze
I wish Leo had invited more people on the skyposaurus.
- earl wallace
Della? As in Della Reese?
- Devon Blugh
PREPARE: a molly rants a comin'
- David J. Garcia
Is it me, or has John C Dvorak written a column of everything already.
- A. Karl Kornel
John hasn't written about John C. Dvorak.... yet
- Devon Blugh
I wont touch a sony laptop
- Greg
I would never buy a netbook until they figure out how to put a dvd player in it.
- earl wallace
I tried fixing one for someone and no tech docs period
- Greg
Just bought a Asus EeePc today and am pleased with it. Takes a little getting used to the smaller keyboard though.
- Jeff Parsons
earl, i don't think the atom is powerful enough to play a dvd... maybe it is
- Chris Heath
@devon, drat, I forgot about that. I assume though that his column on himself will mark his retirement.
- A. Karl Kornel
@A. Karl He probably would
- Devon Blugh
I think a dual core anything cpu chip could run a dvd but thats a toss up. @jeffparsons What about the Asus netbook sold you over the other netbooks.
- earl wallace
Atom is plenty powerful enough to play DVDs, my 300MHz PentiumII machine could play them. HD content is another matter.
- Ghworg
I thought Molly just said she couldn't make the Mac do what she wanted to. Maybe I misinterpreted.
- Ryan
Hey, you guys are complaining about the size of the latest OS X update... I have a question for you: how big is any given Windows XP (or Vista) Service Pack update? How big are ALL of the hotfixes that come between XP/Vista service packs? Huh? Huh?!
- Donald Burr
There's an old proverb that will be perfect in this case for Sarah Palin, IMHO: "If it falls in your garden, plant it!"
- Devon Blugh
Who speaks for Somali pirates? The Minister of Information guy from Iraq, who said that everything was fine right before the last invasion.
- A. Karl Kornel
Baghdad Bob
- Chris Heath
"From the Top". Very good show, but normally broadcast during sucky timeslots.
- A. Karl Kornel
Don't steal music! Simply borrow it without asking and without any intention of returning
- Devon Blugh
I don't steel music because I'm a creative and if I create something I want to get paid for it.
- Don Strickland
USENET? I don't think I can use that anymore -- My 56k modem is broken.
- A. Karl Kornel
...the first rule about...
- Chris Heath
Firefox with the DownThemAll extension is perfect for downloading songs and videos embedded in web pages (ummm....I've heard)
- Devon Blugh
oh wait ... if you think downloads from USENET are anon ... you are confused.
- Don Strickland
torrents you have to upload back to keep a ratio, newsgroups you start downloading at full and never have to upload
- Matthew
Google
- Simon Wicks
your isp can always know what kind of traffic is going thru your pipe
- Chris Heath
i don't think any downloads are actually anon anymore
- Don Strickland
newsgroups allow you to use SSL
- Matthew
not all newsgroup server
- Greg
matthew - if you're using ssl to connect to a newsgroup server, wouldn't that be incriminating (sorta)
- Chris Heath
astraweb allows you to connect using SSL
- Matthew
easynews does too (i think)
- Chris Heath
and it's only $11 a month for 20 connections and 365 retention
- Matthew
with all the .fm's and through iphones you hardly need to download anymore
- zephyrlily
give me a break ... $30K for my iPod music ... does ANYONE actually believe ANYTHING stated in a Micro$oft ad?
- Don Strickland
I dont think streaming movies should be illegal..I miss those European streaming movies.
- earl wallace
mts here in Canada does not
- Greg
blip.fm had to setup with imeem, and not blip.fm wont be as good because all the songs have to be authorized
- Matthew
from the irc?
- Greg
id DP molly wood, whos with me DP requires 2
- AhronZombi
And here is where the show goes down the hill...
- A. Karl Kornel
blip,fm has pretty much every song you can think of, it just needs an iphone app
- zephyrlily
Where are the Diggnation crew?
- A. Karl Kornel
Will someone get Leo to talk about the print media trying to get congress to allow them to form monopolies so they can charge for news? In addition, they want tax dollars, and stricter laws controlling the distribution of FACTS (see Hot News laws). Washington Post (the wrong side): http://bit.ly/1jNKE -- Buzz Machine rebuttal: http://bit.ly/18Q1TI
- tollie williams
LOL. From wine to bourbon...My kinda show finally... :)
- Bill Heslin
zephyrlily, blip.fm will soon be limited...http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Matthew
zephyrlily: blip may have all the songs you can think of, it certainly doesn't have all those I can think of. About half the songs I searched for on it came up with nothing.
- Ghworg
dvorak always has a recipe to give out
- Chris Heath
Now the heat is really going to start kicking in for them after shots of Bourbon...this is gonna get good. Heat and Bourbon do not mix...
- Bill Heslin
Yay! Molly Wood!
- Joey Gibson
Oh, and re: my earlier comment (about 7 up) - the print media also wants to stop search engines from indexing *by force of law* - they stupidly argue that they need this power to hold against search engines, because apparently robots.txt isn't enough for them.
- tollie williams
@Matthew, more of a problem if you're outside the U.S. like the other .fm sites. I haven't been on last.fm yet to compare it yet.
- zephyrlily
Adding urls to public mp3s will be limited to legitimate bands and labels approved in our systems - this will affect everyone, too many indie bands to contact
- Matthew
you can see Dvorak keeps eyeballing the bourbon
- zephyrlily
I regret all the different government agencies and anti-constitutional entities coming in and ruining the last bastion of freedom!
- earl wallace
What's the brand on that bourbon?
- Jude
bullet
- Chris Heath
How much you wanna bet someone at Google is already working on a way for the servers up maintain/update themselves. Matrix (or Terminator?), here we come!
- A. Karl Kornel
Has anyone seen the molly wood fisting video?
- AhronZombi
The leaked amateur video of molly wood getting fisted by veronica belmont
- AhronZombi
molly wood = double anal
- AhronZombi
Everyone is hot and sweaty except John, he must be a zombie.
- Jude
Dvorak just has ice running through his veins
- Glenn Trtanj
Dvorak has a huge pecker
- AhronZombi
Agreed Sam, especially when it comes to the music distribution via iTunes. Maybe that business is still not as large as we think. (?)
- Jude
Brought to you by Bullet Bourbon, Dvorak approved.
- zephyrlily
Is that 94 degrees inside the cottage?
- Steve Wilson
Haha, maybe this should be Twit After Hours
- zephyrlily
http://snipurl.com/i856i - globeandmail.com: Court case reveals ugly infighting at Motorola
- Greg
wolframalpha.com search on "erotic" gave me a "synonim network" diagram with "breast, bang and pinch". this is really useful stuff.
- Emmanuel Huna
200 Roses=$200
- David J. Garcia
200 roses costs more than $200 right?
- Chris Heath
jay-z black album + beatles white album = danger mouse grey album
- Chris Heath
I would say that this show is going downhill, but that would mean the show was once ON a hill.
- Devon Blugh
Roses=$
- David J. Garcia
I Love it when TWiT gets Boozzed Up
- Dave T
Why aren't these "concered AGs" going after local papers w/personals?
- David J. Garcia
"Buzzed Out Loud" has to be the show title
- Dave T
TWiT 195: Bourbon and Breastfeeding Nazis
- zephyrlily
Check out some of the Groups too Leo - http://www.facebook.com/home...
- Matt Sengle
I am sooo tired of the "protect the children" argument..Thats the parent's job not the ISPs
- David J. Garcia
I thought the robo calls were illegal to call a cellphone.
- earl wallace
loophole, like Jacob's enemy
- Matthew
The cake is a lie
- David J. Garcia
Thanks Leo this was a great TWIT!
- earl wallace
Leo tweeted someone threw a bottle at him last nite while he was riding his trike. Glad you are ok Leo
- earl wallace
TWiT 195: Bourbon and Breastfeeding Nazis
- zephyrlily
TWiT 195: Buzzed Out Loud
- Dave T
TWiT 195: NSFW, or Home, or Anywhere
- Devon Blugh
848pm atlga time hi every things working fine
- daveccorey
Hi from rural Australia
- Pogmohoin
no audio
- Pogmohoin
Thanks for the full Wolfram interview, fantastic!
- iluvgimp
waiting for the start of twil and watching for chatty things here
- enoss
no comments here?
- enoss
I'll have to remember to go watch/listen to it.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
"All the world's information at your fingertips" - thanks for shooting that one down John! When you live outside the first world for a while you get to find out how much information is not on the web ...
- Peter Dowley
Lose the alcohol, Leo. You're ruining the best show on the TwiT network. It's like listening to a geek frat party. Not what I come to TWiT for.
- Lee Cameron
Live now: The Tech Guy Radio Show, at 3p TWiT with Dvorak, Molly Wood, and Becky Worley. http://live.twit.tv. Discuss here...
Michael Hansel, Amish Schulze, Harvey Birdman and 7 other people liked this
Watching it now on http://live.twit.tv
- John-Paul Dickie
Can't here your commentors. also how do I listen or see yerterday's gillmore gang.
- Arnie Klaus
Leo will explain periodically that the caller audio is muted by request of radio stations
- Thomas James
the last few Gillmor Gangs haven't been released as audio podcasts. the only way to see them is to wait for them to appear in the rerun lineup (sadly, there is no fixed schedule for this)
- Thomas James
yah, i tried to ask yesterday why they haven't been published
- Kyle Dylan Conner
Steve is working with Google right now to get the video versions of Gillmor Gang up on YouTube. No luck so far (files too large?)
- Thomas James
maybe
- Kyle Dylan Conner
Putting your shoes in the dishwasher? Disgusting...
- Byron McCollum
This is like the old days of TV broadcast, only with no schedule. (instant replay seems so essentail in the twitter age)
- Arnie Klaus
Leo is planning to make all shows available as on-demand video downloads (in addition to audio downloads), but that's going to take time to set up
- Thomas James
I believe Steve Gillmor has full control over the distribution of the Gillmor Gang. That's why you can't download the audio versions from twit.tv like the other shows.
- Thomas James
eh, i'd rather watch live
- Kyle Dylan Conner
Live is ideal, but not always possible.
- Thomas James
Thanks Thomas, that is news after spending 40 minutes trying to look for yesterday's show. This announcement would be a great footnote on the live.twit.tv website.
- Arnie Klaus
Arnie: slowly but surely this will all be sorted out. Also, if you look in live FriendFeed comments from yesterday's Gillmor Gang, some of this is addressed.
- Thomas James
gillmor gang should make the switch from techcrunch to twit. doesn't seem that mike is doing much for it.
- Kyle Dylan Conner
Kyle: agreed.
- Thomas James
This a first: watching NASA TV looking at a live working spacewalk
- earl wallace
i don't think any version of windows could make me switch back to a pc.
- Kyle Dylan Conner
@Kyle I f you used windows then went to Mac; what was the "learning curve" or length of time it took you to get comfortable with Mac?
- earl wallace
@earl maybe a couple of days. not long at all.
- Kyle Dylan Conner
@earl whenever i sit down and use a pc now i feel really weird
- Kyle Dylan Conner
Thanks for answering my monitor question, Leo!
- Eric Geller
Thanks Kyle. A caller asking about Friendfeed (:
- earl wallace
twit.tv gets props from new show http://www.skeptologists.com/Main...
- zephyrlily
I gave up on Kaspersky, switched to Avast
- zephyrlily
Can u paste the link for the nasa tv? Sorry if this has already been addressed
- Jan Cifra
Thank you!
- Jan Cifra
I have an old Dell Latitude I use as a surround sound and magicjack phone server ....I would love to get m,y hands on some of those dumped ones.
- earl wallace
addendum: does anyone know of a site that sells laptops cheap, used ones that is.
- earl wallace
It's the Canadarm. Go Canada!
- Thomas James
"It's not about the appearance of caring for your customers, it's about actually caring for your customers." -- Leo, FTW
- Ken Sheppardson
Sprint will give you a Blackberry without the data plan.
- Kyle Dylan Conner
Im paying $65.00 for 6meg broadband at home and $30.00 for my Blackberry. Gougeed!
- earl wallace
Yah, the $30 for my BB is ridiculous.
- Kyle Dylan Conner
Luckily my parents pay for Verizon FiOS. lol.
- Kyle Dylan Conner
To get my moneys worth I have downloaded special clients to give me the same access to my sites and data as at home. I have tried to find a tether plan(besides tetherberry thats 60 bucks) there is not one so far for the BB Bold but for the curve.
- earl wallace
I <3 my Curve.
- Kyle Dylan Conner
The clients for the Blackberry are fine with me so as not to have a need for the Iphone. The blackberry rocks.
- earl wallace
The only reason I don't have the iPhone is because I need actual keys.
- Kyle Dylan Conner
At the time i got my blackberry it was only $20 for unlimited data and texts with t-mobile. Love the curve, but am thinking about the iPhone because of the apps.
- Mike Child
When I ride my recumbent it looks like the circus is coming to town. Maybe that's why some yahoo in a pickup threw a bottle at me. Missed.
Amish Schulze, Bob Blunk, Ryan Gerritsen and 9 other people liked this
Or maybe he's seen an episode of TWiT.... ZING!
- Justin Hopkins
from twhirl
I'm not sure what is worse. Someone throwing a bottle at you or me having to google "recumbent"
- Rhys Amos
that's nerd profiling...and that is just wrong. I guess it doesn't get better when you get older huh?
- Brian Appleby
I built one as part of an advanced srudies program during the summer of 1997. It was cool then, but it was basically nerd camp
- Chris Heath
Did you ride much pre-recumbent, Leo? The occasional bottle seems pretty much par for the course anywhere rural/semi-rural. Sigh.
- Ken Sheppardson
you gotta make the trike more sinister looking. a webcam would be cool. & instead of 'recumbent' - ( definition: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse... ) - call it the tricasting terror trike of doom from petaluma :)
- sɹǝɥʇɐǝɟʞɔɐןq
That is awesome. You should wear a bulls-eye t-shirt to help with their aim.
- Giovanni
Did you get a close look at the driver..I think it was Ballmer..
- David J. Garcia
from twhirl
TechCrunch Interview With Digg's Kevin Rose - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
  |
Chan Pen, John Edwards, Gabe and 17 other people liked this
why are you softglowing?
- Alexander Kohlhofer
Seemed like you got kinda hammered, good job though and looking forward to all your new stuff
- Mark
img_0002.jpg - http://leo.tumblr.com/post...
 |
Tony Meyer, Amish Schulze, Allen Harkleroad and RAPatton liked this
Netflix to hike up monthly Blu-ray fee by up to $8 a month | Webware - CNET - http://news.cnet.com/8301-17...
Aaron Draczynski, Brian, Amish Schulze and 11 other people liked this
"Gouge Scoble" is the rallying cry? Yikes. Two less lattes a month. Hmmm.
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Dang, I was all in for the added $1, but $8?? Gotta rethink...
- Shawna Benson
My guess is they are trying to reduce BluRay demand until they can build up a decent inventory. BTW, I recently created a Netflix News Room: http://friendfeed.com/rooms...
- Daniel Sims
WTF? that is way too much cost.
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
Blu-ray was dead on arrival. Or at least it's a speed bump on the way to HD interactivity/entertainment.
- Jason Nelson
Doesn't it really come down to the fact the studios are sticking it to EVERYONE on Blu-Ray pricing? Why does it have to be more? Every change in medium is looked at as an excuse to raise prices it seems. I remember $15 cd' when vinyl albums were $8-10... Do I need to keep going VHS to DVD? ... I am no studio/RIAA basher just my observations...
- Trae Ruge
At least y'all have Netflix
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Yes, the studios are trying to stick it to everyone. Unfortunately, the Internet is going to stick it to them. They're being greedy -- when we find the middle ground we'll have our cake and be able to eat it, too. Seriously, Robert is right -- public advertising is where it's at. Big Content needs to embrace their customers and make it easier to purchase the products and services that are inadvertently advertised in their content. We can do it!
- Jason Nelson
@Jason: And when the Internet has "stuck it to the studios", what are you going to watch? :)
- Ian Betteridge
VCR/Laserdisc to DVD is a special case where prices actually went down in most cases. This was also helped in part by Netflix coming out with a cheaper rental model for moderate to heavy users. Also VCR tapes were mainly priced to rent (rental shops had to pay $80 or $90 per tape). Laserdiscs were $35 to $50 or more in some cases. Now we are getting back to quality premiums with Blu-ray. Most people will find that it's not worth it. This will delay adoption of the standard.
- Alex Scoble
from fftogo
I changed my plan from 3 discs to 2 discs at a time as soon as I got the notice. I hardly watch them and I've had the first two discs of The Wire on my nightstand for like two months. :(
- Derrick
Who uses optical media anymore? I haven't burned a DVD in 6 months and haven't bought a DVD or CD in maybe 4 years.
- Adam Turetzky
I just cancelled my Netflix sub. They would have done better starting the Blu-Ray service at a high price and gradually bring it down, rather than bump it up. This is stupid, bad business IMO.
- Eric Thompson
Nothing personal, if they bring the price back down to reason, I'll probably subscribe again.
- Eric Thompson
@Adam I burn data DVDs, but almost never DVD Video. I don't feel a need for Blu-Ray for myself, when I don't have HDTV, and when the Blu-Ray releases are so much less in number than regular ones in any case!
- Ian May
I never subscribed. That's showing 'em.
- Morton Fox
Put my Netflix on hold. +$8 is too much for Blu-Ray rentals. If this the studio's response to people renting rather than buying, they have figured yet out another way to shoot themselves in the foot. Gotta admire their self-destructive creativity.
- Jim Bergman
OK, actually read the article. It's $8 more only if you have the 7 at a time plan. The new way it works is $1 + $1 for the number of discs at once you signed up for. 2 discs at a time? Is $13.99 + $3 for Blu-Ray = $16.99. Not as bad as I thought.
- Jim Bergman
Jim, agreed, but is was $4 extra/month for my plan. Honestly, I don't like their change mgmt strategy. It's not good to just spring it as they did. Give us a month or two or describe why this was needed.
- Eric Thompson
it's ok, my Xbox 360s don't do Blu-Ray anyways.
- Thomas Hawk
This only if you use those (so last year) blueray players. Early adopters don't use something so tech faux pas.
- Brian Bufalo
bye bye blu ray
- Andy Sternberg
It will depend what monthly plan you are on, different plans have different costs to rent Blue ray. It still sucks though
- Johann Diaz
from Nambu
Misleading title. Only $8 for the most expensive plan. Scoble, please don't spread misleading info.
- Phillip Stewart
need windows 7 for my broken x86 box, MS took the downloads offline.. time to visit the bay of pirates.
Amish Schulze, Daniel Iniguez, Roberto Bonini and 2 other people liked this
Sure plenty of people have a burnt DVD - I'd mail you mine if you were in the UK.
- Rich
Head over to mininova and get build 7068 it's cool.
- Adrian Burns
Other ways to read this feed:
