Just was talking to http://www.friendfeed.com/garin and we came to the conclusion that if you are going to comment on a friendfeed item you should either be first or last. Why? They always are visible. So, here's your chance! :-)
Any worthy FF thread will engage interested parties enough to read most of the comments.
- iTad
Do I get bonus points if I end up being the thread killer?
- Kevin Johnson
Kevin you could always delete your 1st comment. :)
- rob friedman
Kevin! Yes, and we're having a great time watching this. It will get old fast, but for now it's really fun!
- Robert Scoble
Dang it I am 5 min too late. So I guess it is like posting on a blog post, you always want to be first.
- Jeff
Hey Enrique.. that would suck. Oh... LAST! Oh Jeff... Last.
- Ted Bradford II
That's why these threads just go on and on and on... people just want to have the last word. ;-P
- Chris Heath
Chris: I don't want the last word. I want the penultimate word. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Nope, I like the riffng of the conversation. Jump in anywhere. Enjoy the free flow of ideas and worry not about being seen by the scanners. Those who take the time to expand the thread have such a richer experience.
- michael sean wright
if i wasn't so tired i'd play that out Chris (as my last post was truly in jest). Late here in East TN. Gonna go tip a few cows and call it a day.
- Ted Bradford II
Ted: so was mine ... didn't you catch the winky tongue? (i'm on cape fear so i'm soon to bed as well)
- Chris Heath
Good point, unless you're actually using the RT chat aspect of FriendFeed, I guess...
- Andy Werner
I actually come back 5 days later to make comments so I can have the last word. Everyone has already forgotten what the conversation is about by then.
- Jeff
Chris- I did, but needed a segue into a cow tipping joke... cause I've never done so before. I do know this, tomorrow I will use the word 'penultimate' and dazzle family and friends. Hope alls quiet on the Cape bro. These storms have been a biotch. Annnnnnd Jeff just trumped us all. Tell him what he's won Enrique... nite all.
- Ted Bradford II
Second to last is always visible on my screen. :)
- Bwana ☠
Clever way to get the most commented upon comment on FF ever....
- Barak B
Ted, if you haven't dozed off- i'll have you know that the coastal winds tend to keep a lot of the storm systems at bay- if you're close enough to the water - a mile or 5 inland can make a big difference some days - and spot t/storms can be localized around here big time - for instance yesterday it rained (for a short period) at my house while i was at work 5 miles away getting no rain - only knew cuz the ground was wet when i went home for lunch... ok - it's really time for sleep now - g'nite FriendFeed
- Chris Heath
friendfeed should allow for "liking" comments so top comments can be the ones shown, no matter the chronology. And allow the users to watch comments by likes, threaded or chronologically.
- Charbax
A blatant attempt at gaming the FriendFeed statistics for no real useful purpose... Oooh, can I be last, Please Please!!!
- Peter Kelley
No, Peter, you may not be last. That's my position.
- Chris Charabaruk
Are trying to go for the longest comment thread again?
- Amit Morson
Amit: no, most times one post gets hidden.
- Robert Scoble
In a different timezone you can have the advantage :)
- Rene de Vries
Okay, people, nothing to see here. Just walk on. This is the last comment. It's all clear now.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
What if you write backwards? Does that help?
- Kieran Daly
Okay, people, nothing to see here. Just walk on. This is the last comment. It's all clear now. says Ruud van Wijngaarden
- Julian Edward
It would be nice if we could pick the number of comments shown at the top and bottom, I'd like to see the first 3 and last 3 for example.
- Kol Tregaskes
I usually read all the comments of something I'm interested in. I don't just read the top and bottom ones so I don't care where I come in. I comment on what I want to because I want to say something. It's nice if the original poster reads/responds to it, but not absolutely necessary. Most of the time the most fun/interaction comes from other commenters.
- Molly
Being last has one drawback. It makes you a thread-killer. I'm not sure some of us like being that. Sometimes I'd rather see the discussion keep going.
- George Hall (Australia)
Do like the suggestion made earlier that there should be bonus points for being the thread-killer...
- George Hall (Australia)
And there is nothing I hate more than reading that first comment that childishly claims "First!" and nothing more. "Last!" (until the next comment comes along)
- Jim Espinoza
By the way, I'm the last commenter in a very participated thread recently started by Robert Scoble, but that didn't gain me almost any new follower. I'm fine with this though, as I'd find silly being advantaged for being the last commenter ;-)
- Opensource Obscure
112 comments - but there can never be last comment, can there? Unless there is a FF limit on the number of comments - Paul, is there a limit?
- WoH: Minding her Steves
The current last comment is the next penultimate comment.
- Brian Sullivan
Not everyone is on here to market themselves to infinity. Why people, other than people who actually make money off of exposure, insist on wanting the most friends on ff/fb/ms/tt is beyond me. Not everyone is a Scobilite! Yes I did just make that word up... where do I copyright it? lol
- Jason Williams
Didn't someone blog about tinyurl's dominance a while back - about how they have too much power. Might have been Gillmor or Winer
- Bwana ☠
Winer. I don't think they have too much power
- Steve Gillmor
Kevin: i did not say it was spam. I put the smiley face indicating my partial joking nature. but only partial.
- Jeff
Robert: I could not figure out how to disable comments for particular post. It is really not a big issue since I have gmail, but I do think this post may never die.
- Jeff
I seem to be last on many of Steve Gillmor's posts @techcrunchit, the kiss of death to many a conversation. I should be so lucky here.
- Aron Michalski
from fftogo
A good way to stop? - Scoble puts in his penultimate comment Kevin Johnson says zaloom!
- Julian Edward
This is the Seinfeld of FF....the post and comments about nothing. I wonder what the record is for the most comments on FF?
- Jeff
As a fine-art platform, as a painting, do you think anyone would be interested in a full-screen image feed animated by Judith Supine? http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- stephen harlow
I like most anything distilled...information, bait...(distilled bait...is that like the worm at the bottom of the mezcal?)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
The difference would be that in this case the worm will stay on the bottom. No matter what.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
I reckon it'll be Ruud van Wijngaarden
- Julian Edward
I am not quite sure about that. But willing to accept it. (Wait! You just called me a worm? The most underrated but valuable animal on the planet, that brings us fertile ground and eats dead stuff? It is a nice compliment, but might be a bit much).
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
No, No! - I didn't mean you worm. Although as you say they are useful beings. I do hope you'lll be in heroic position of last commenter! This is a case of the last shall be second. (Kevin Johnson being first of course). Scoble is penultimate we would hope. I'm aiming for 5th to last!
- Julian Edward
Yesterday somebody asked: 'if you pass the number two in a race, which place are you in?' and I answered wrong. Passing the last one in this race will be hard...
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
you mean Twitter Gar1n? You were talking on TWITTER WEREN'T YOU! LIAR "friendfeeed Garin" pfttttt still the same bi-polar
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
Interesting comment, SFSS, very interesting indeed. So interesting, in fact, that I think that nothing further needs to be added to this thread. Ever.
- WoH: Minding her Steves
אתם כל כך מלא חרא, אבל זו בעיה שלך, לא שלי :-)
- David Gross
from email
actually i don't know how not to be the last commenter :)
- İ. Emre Kutlu
If only I could puncture the depths of Scoble's scratch-the-surface brain fart, techno-vangelizing, then I'd actually care WHOLE HEARTEDLY about this meaningfully retarded thread.
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
The only way this thread can be made even more ridiculous and anachronistic is to move it to identi.ca.. Myspace would work, too.
- Tal Shafik
And since you can't guarantee being last unless you are the originator of the thread or can convince the originator to end comments (but since Robert is AWOL that is unlikely) -- you better be first. ;-)
- Brian Sullivan
Zee, that's what happened to me months ago. Someone saw them hit my car and they pretended to write something (name, license number, address, phone). All bogus! x_x
- AJ Batac (/-_-)
Has anyone created a Scobleizer account on FriendFeed that imports his Twitter feed and/or favorites? That was how I followed him before (and I'm not going to Twitter to do it).
Louis, I don't want stuff about him. I want stuff from him.
- Jesse Stay
Sorry, Holden said they were crap and no one called him on it. I actually really hate all the duplication I'm seeing on these services anyway. So, I'll keep Tweets on Twitter and FriendFeed on FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
If Scoble doesn't want to import his tweets, then create an imaginary friend for yourself to import them instead. Unless it was the attached conversations that you're really wanting, in which case that won't help. The Favorites feed I found to be a bit excessive myself, but that's the beauty of FF, I could hide those easily (and even still show the ones with convos on them).
- Otto
Robert, since when did you start listening to people who don't matter. There are more of us who go through your tweets and follow them and we don't think it's worth replying to some random comment.
- Amit Nangare
I would love a google wave invite if possible. I would use 2 of my new invites for personal use but other than that they'll all be shared on here :) Thanks, my email is here: http://scr.im/miketr
- crane.tr
I'll share some invites as soon as I receive some :)
- یاسر
Ohh that's great :) - my is email is ric4p5 gmail
- jose manuel
The Great Google Wave invite thread. Anyone who wants an invite post your Gmail address here and anyone who has invites available please use to invite the people on this list. There are also a bunch of requests in the Invites group here: http://friendfeed.com/invites
I have a few but holding them for a few people who have already asked me. I'm at kolint [at] googlewave [dot] com btw. A pain I know but if you can, could you update your comment when you have an account or just delete your comment. Ta! :-) EDIT: Try this site for invites: http://googlewaveinvites.com/
- Kol Tregaskes
Are people on this list getting invites or at least been told they have an invite on the way? You might have to be patient, it could take a long time for one to come through.
- Kol Tregaskes
Adam, yep agree. Maybe because I did that (month ago though) helped me get mine through from Vijay so quickly!
- Kol Tregaskes
@Kol, the invitation process seems to be based on nominations. For example, everytime someone nominates/invites you, you get bumped up the queue for an account until you're at the top and you get sent an invite by the team
- Ema Nymton
Ysabel, ah I see, So lots of people must have nominated me. Darn, so a few users I have nominated could be waiting a looooong time. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
if that voting system is right I'm very annoyed. I asked for an invite months ago, now all the numpties are all over it I'm not going to get a look in. It's like I've been sat at the front of a shop queue and everyone's just walking right past me into the shop. I am British but I detest both queuing and waiting, so this is pretty tough going
- Toby Graham
Like most other people, yesterday I wasn't aware of that I «needed» a Google Wave invitation this badly...but now I am!!! quackofdawn at gmail dot com
- noname
neternity@gmail.com and i promise to send a wave of 100,901 twitter followers to your doorstep each of whom will have averaged 1 tweet in their existence - this might not get me an invite but surely it will get some notice - must have that something special - my google wave invite special sauce ingredient is twitter juice PS Not to be construed as an offer, not valid in any of the 53 US states, do not try this at home, caution: contents are hot.
- Ross Button
Purdy Please! (expecting [dot] rain)
- Jeremy Kunz
Anyone have already a wave invite?. I'm a developers anxious to take a look at wave. jmiguel.rodriguez at gmail.com . Thank you very much in advanced!
- jmiguel rodriguez
trentono gmail com...thanks in advance, mysterious stranger...
- Trent Olson
lol at this point i gotta think that by the time an invite makes it this far down the list i may already be at the top of the official invite list but doesn't hurt to try right? marco [dot] nunez @ gmail - thanks!
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I'm also trying. As Marco said, it doesn't hurt :) iamclem at gmail. thanks!
- Clément Simon
Hello, I would love to have a google wave invite too. ilteris@gmail.com thanks!
- ilteris
Oops! You said gmail address: marybaumcreative (at) gmail. Although I run marybaum@marybaum.com through gmail servers too.
- Mary B, VALUE author
from email
I'd love an invite. I was sort of expecting to get one from Google, as I have been in all of their other betas, but to no avail :( carlton.prest@gmail.com
- Carlton Prest
Plesae send an invite! jwatson820@gmail.com
- Jonna Watson
damn, the pretty please guy will get one for sure, that steve guy @hotmail.com is likely last on the list - but we all will get one if that scobilizer guy notices that we are all here and asking and so cul cuz we are all on friendfeed - maybe if we twitter too it might help - hello google !!!!
- Ross Button
how do we know which ones are sent? I'm just doing my own thread.
- Vezquex
meemmtype at gmail dot com Thank you!
- Jonathan Kong
I would also like an invite if anyone has one -> aaron915 at gmail.com
- Aaron Berman
I'll take one if you can give it...desktopsbyduck@gmail.com
- RICHARD E. MOORE
id love an invite - allen074 - at - gmail.com - thank you
- Allen Stern
I've been too busy to get on FF the last few days....figures something important happening and I missed it! I knew about Google Wave but didn't know there would be a thread to post a request. In any case, better late than never, I'd love an invite at madeliene2007 at gmail.com. :)
- Bonnie Foster
re.renus@gmail.com somebody please send me a invitation... ^_^ : )
- Emad
wimmulder@gmail.com. Am really excited to try this out for a collaborative research project I'm working on. Hoping someone has an invite to spare!
- Wim Mulder
giuliocc@gmail.com . Keen to see if we can shake M$'s cage about messaging and collaboration.
- Giulio Campobassi
Would love an invite - jonathonc at gmail.com
- Jonathon
VitaArdiyana (at) gmail (dot) com, Thanks before Kol. I will delete my comment when i have my google wave account.
- Vimala Vita
Just digging into the comments now but let me begin by saying that you did an incredible job with this thread Kol, 473 (474 after I post) comments!
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Google Wave : Could anyone invite me ? : jean.charles.blondeau[at]gmail.com Thanks
- Jean-Charles
Would appreciate an invite. joe@joeperrin.com (Thanks!)
- Joe Perrin
System Messages Invite Status: 17559 invite requests in the system. 7 invites confirmed as received by requester. 199 invites claimed as sent from giver.
- oliv21
How does anyone know if someone has already been invited? You could go back and edit your comment when you receive an invitation, but since that takes days, it could be ages before you know.
- marziah
I've not even had a nomination, RK. At google dot com I'm suezanne , in the event anyone wants to make a nomination. I've asked before on friendfeed. It's kind of humiliating to beg.
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
i have decided that if i do indeed get an invite, i will decline, forward my gmail account to windows live and put ie back as my default browser and i will bing it
- Ross Button
@Ross: why punish yourself for something you didn't do? :)
- François Dongier
I just want some google love; just like the rest of us do; but n,o they wave at us as they have their private, invite only party; thumb to nose, fingers a waving - that's the google wave; we need a tshirt
- Ross Button
al86shaw@gmail.com :) Not expecting anything, but thanks anyway!
- Alan (Giraffes)
Send to me plz ,,, mxina.com {a} gmail {dot} com
- Mohammad Sharifi
Has anyone received their invite? I haven't yet.
- Rodericus
from email
I'd love an invite to Google Wave pls. non-geeky bf got one before me! that's just not cricket.. hehe :) icetigerza (at) gmail
- Kim
Hello, if there's any invite left, you'll make me more than happy ;-) matthieu.beauval [at] gmail [dot] com, thank you !
- matthieu beauval
Of all the people posting here the chances of me getting an invite are slim but I'm still willing to try. If someone wants to shoot an invite over to jcallahan126@gmail.com I'd REALLY appreciate it.
- John
from iPhone
Aww Did I miss the Wave of invites? Come on Kol... Hook me up! :)
- JR
It looks like it, although you might be able to use the hyperlink on the front of the Wave homepage to request an invitation, if it's still available.
- Tyson Key
Google Wave Anybody? I needz one plz... walt {dot} ruppar {at} gmail [dot] com
- JR
from iPhone
allanbesselink<at>gmail<dot>com ... please!
- Allan Besselink
I'll wager that some of the folks on this list have received their invite by now, or no longer want one - I have 16 invitations at this instant. It's probably easier for me if you DM.
- Sue - Friendfeed is best
fifiquimbo(at)gmail(dot)com. I would love one, thanks!
- Fifi Quimbo
I have 8 invites to Google Wave, if someone is interested, please DM with e-mail address. Ciao, Andrea
- Andrea Romoli
Has been showered with invites for Wave. Anyone still need one? I can forward my latest :-) Thanks Doganli whomever you might be :-) **There be no more invites**
Mark Briggs, Vinny & Khuram Hussain - I have sent you my last 3 invites... sometimes takes a while to come through from Google but you have been sent my last ones. Enjoy!
- Iain
please sent it to: ric4p5 {at} gmail [dot] com Thank you :)
- jose manuel
I'd love to have one please, thank you mgkbull [at] gmail.com
- Bull
I don't really care about stuff that's outside of my friend group. My friends are already pretty good at bringing me good stuff from outside the group anyway.
- Robert Scoble
This would get rid of all spam and bad actors. Or almost all, assuming you don't follow spammers.
- Robert Scoble
Robert's initial first comment was "be right back", as a placeholder to keep the first slot while he composed his real first comment. Zee was responding to that
- Ken Sheppardson
And it would bring back Techmeme-quality results because it would be based on people you follow and verify. Oh, and even better? The new list feature in Twitter will let you build different kinds of searches.
- Robert Scoble
Ken: but the people I'm following ARE most people and most of them are following too many to keep track of trends themselves.
- Robert Scoble
Most of the 5,000 people you're following are following thousands? I'd love to see the actual numbers behind that... you've done some analysis?
- Ken Sheppardson
want a screenshot of your feed how it looks like?
- ffcode
agreed - that type of search filtering would not only be useful, but the whole point of social network information sharing - using my friends as my distributed search engine for things I am interested in
- Arthur Coleman
ffcode you want me to send you a screenshot?
- Robert Scoble
Ken: informal analysis. I hand followed each of the people I'm following and looked at their following behavior. It is rare to find someone who is following fewer than 200 people now. At least amongst early adopter tech influencers that I like to follow.
- Robert Scoble
Hm... There's an API call to retrieve a list of users a given user is following... would be simple to do a full-blown check....
- Ken Sheppardson
to build a list is also difficult as i have learned from the little experience i have had
- ffcode
StatusSearch did a non-realtime version of this, but they appear to have scratched it at the moment.
- Steve Farnworth
With viewpointapp.com; we are doing real time relevance and filtering within the people you follow. Search and trends sounds like a great idea. We will see what we can come up with!
- Jay
from Cadmus
It would be interesting to see if the trends differ than the trends posted on the Twitter home page. I'm sure it would correlate to the size of your sample.
- Mattb4rd
I might, Robert. Also, I hope the voice you hear in your head when you read my comments here isn't snide and snarky. I'm genuinely curious about this from a tech standpoint. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
I've wanted something like this for a long time. I guess I just assumed that it was obvious enough that someone (maybe even Twitter) would already be working on it. Maybe we'll take it up as a side project.
- Ryan Kuder
I think this would be very useful. Twitter Times is going in this direction but right now it doesn't have search or trending topics. Their main focus now seems to be aggregating links/stories (techmeme-style) that are popular among the people that you're following. Here's my personalized Twitter Times page: http://www.twittertim.es/mdoeff
- Mike Doeff
What is being overlooked here and to which I believe I heard mention that Twitter was building in-house was the ability to trend against any topic/individual in the network. Perfect for gaining market feedback on competition outside of your network.
- Gregory Hanson
Granted, it's a little off topic as the main point of the thread was for people you follow, but building an open trending app would broaden market appeal.
- Gregory Hanson
That would be a good tool. But wouldn't it be cool if you got a pair of tech guys, built it out and returned to raise VC money yourself? :) Stop giving away your free ideas!
- Louis Gray
Louis: I tried building new app at NPR last Friday and I decided I suck at it. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I've been enjoying the "search my timeline" feature in the Tweetie 2 iPhone app -- looking forward to the desktop client getting that feature as well. Totally agree with Robert, though: It seems like search/trends among the people i'm following has an incredible about of value to a user. A user like me.
- Ryan Sholin
Mike Lizun: Works ok though it'd be better if you made trending topics at least 2 words (trending topics always seem to be 2-3 words). I get a lot of one-words that don't give me much. The trend should follow a longer duration of time as well. I am following 2000+ and only see a few tweets for certain trending terms.
- beersage
yeah, i built out the search concept but saw Twitter announce they're doing it. decided to stick to other concepts and chase the $ elsewhere. thanks for the validation of a good idea though
- Gregory Hanson
Wouldn't something similar be interesting on FB or any social network for that matter? Is Twitter more interesting due to the volume of tweets?
- Dave Hodson
Twitter needs to incorporate this in the API, IMHO.
- Dennis Jernberg
Sounds to me like something Facebook would do if they implemented trends.
- James Harnedy
Good idea about the "Trending" element, Robert. As far as search, really FriendFeed got pretty close if only their import of Twitter friends could have been more complete (not just those already on FF). Stands to reason that the FF guys could have added a trending functionality, Alas... BTW, I just noticed that at ~ 2,500 subscriptions on FF, the "Add To List" pop-up craps out. No more...
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- Alex Schleber
Yeah you r right, there exists no twitter trends just for your tweet stream/tweet inbox (tweets you receive from other people).
- TrafficBug
Actually we have. http://journotwit.com - take a look at the Tag clouds. Also running http://uktjpr.com for the UK technology journalists and PR community so you can see what's happening right now in UK technology.
- Dan Monsieurle
I'm working on useful technology that takes a slightly different approach to searching just your Friends on Twitter (and Facebook is coming soon) with http://refynr.com ... my approach is to allow users to create a List of up to 20 keywords, and then Refynr returns a real-time Stream of tweets only from the tweeps you follow. Also, Refynr auto-saves all relevant tweets that match your...
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- Aaron Longnion
Google Wave invitations.went to Sandbox users first.. I still waiting to not hold my breath !
- Michael Holzinger
Amit - Thank you! I added myself to the list. Meanwhile the WAIT is killing me!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Jannifer - I know, even I don't have an invite yet and looking at that thread I don't see it coming any time soon. Plus Robert's messages are not helping at all.... :)
- Amit Nangare
They have me waiting outside while they prepare to surgically deliver Ryan Soroush Scoble. His life should start within minutes. I wonder what he will be like? What technologies will he see in his lifetime?
- Robert Scoble
from email