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listening to "SARAH JAROSZ OF TEXAS sings TomWaits COME ON UP 2 THE HOUSE" - http://blip.fm/~gyi00
Cookin a delicious dinner for the kids and the big ones alike....love this young ones' voice, perfect for ManorMeta and @SugarShack Day of Thanks now.
- evonne
from Blip.fm
Renault Electric Car Line Up - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Nice, I'd drive that or the Audi e-tron....or let's hope Tesla gets their sedan on the road next year.
- evonne
L.A. Tech Week: The Hidden Gem of L.A. Tech Events - http://www.techzulu.com/la-tech...
Nice one!
- evonne
Re: 5 Google Wave Gadgets that You Will Most Likely Use - http://www.rotorblog.com/2009...
"I don't believe all of those put together are enough reason to have a tab open for running Wave."
- SuezanneC Baskerville
agreed.
- evonne
It might be fun to try to use Wave on a collaborative document. How would I find sometime to give it a try? Maybe Robert Scoble would co-author an article with me on "Why Friendfeed and Google Reader are better than Twitter lists". Probably not though. Sigh, this social network stuff is more fun if you have actual friends, even internet friends.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
We talked about using it for the homeless connection project we started inworld -- Ozma Malibu, Rhiannon Chatnoir, Buffy Beale and a few others working on Transitions: A Place for Dreams as a resource for all things related to displaced care.
- evonne
listening to "DONOVAN - COLORS -Live" - http://blip.fm/~fla1a
listening to "Stairway to Heaven live (Rodrigo y Gabriela)" - http://blip.fm/~fjlzh
listening to "Rodrigo y Gabriela - http://blip.fm/~fjckf
listening to "Sia - Academia" - http://blip.fm/~fj6o3
Hitler Reacts to the Kanye West Incident at the MTV VMAs 2009 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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OK, I've got douche-chills. Thanks!
- evonne
Are the guys at PlayMobsterWorld that stupid?
Yes, I think so Marty....do not want to PlayMobsterWorld. Testing Evony this week, less spam more fun.
- evonne
That, is pretty darn stupid on their part! -Marty Marty Poulin Office: +1 (818) 483-0983 Mobile: +1 (817) 723-9698 Fax: +1 (484) 231-6821 Skype: MartysMind Blog: MartysMind.com
- Marty Poulin
from email
Can't believe I didn't see you all week! Hugs and much love to you.....
- evonne
listening to "Nico Vega - Wooden Dolls" - http://blip.fm/~d463d
listening to "Nico Vega - Medicine Man" - http://blip.fm/~d45zy
listening to "Nico Vega - This Too Shall Pass" - http://blip.fm/~d45wa
listening to "Nico Vega - Beast" - http://blip.fm/~d45ro
listening to "Nico Vega - Gravity" - http://blip.fm/~d45i1
listening to "Nico Vega - Burn Burn" - http://blip.fm/~d45e3
listening to "Nico Vega - Million Years" - http://blip.fm/~d45cq
listening to "Nico Vega - Be Giving" - http://blip.fm/~d456n
listening to "Nico Vega - Living Underground" - http://blip.fm/~d44y7
listening to "Monty Python - Always Look on the Bright Side of Life (Monty Python Sings)" - http://blip.fm/~d424a
Diagnosis: diverticulitis and gall stones. Surgery to remove gall bladder
Wow. How now?
- evonne
Owie owie owie! Gallstones hurt like crazy. The good news is that you're going to feel about a zillion times better when it's all over. (Had the surgery when I was, umm, I think about 35 or 36. Not fun, but not too horrible, and the healing is very fast. Best of luck to you.)
- Kathy Fitch
Yo @nicolaquinn & @vanWilgenburgh here is why I'm unfollowing everyone:
Matthew Blaisdell, Chris Clayton, news2me and 27 other people liked this
1. Too much spam in DMs.
- Robert Scoble
2. Too much noise on my home page (I was following 100,000 and there was less and less stuff there that was interesting to me).
- Robert Scoble
3. FriendFeed has gotten WAY MORE engagement lately than Twitter has. So I'm moving even more over there.
- Robert Scoble
4. I was using http://www.twitter.com/notsecr... and finding that I liked that approach a LOT better (inbound is more important than anything, and when you hand choose the inbound it gets both a lot more fun as well as a lot more interesting).
- Robert Scoble
I think it makes sense, you essentially were following no one with 90k. As you said about Aston K, anyone with less than 200 follows is where the real value is.
- James Watters
James: yeah, actually I've found that most people will less than 2,000 follows have value. Anyone who tries to follow more than that is fooling themselves. Actually I can follow more, but only if grouped together and even then I'm getting a random sample, not a close sample.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah that makes eminent sense. I'm having trouble keeping up with only around 2000 followers.
- Nicola Quinn
Agreed on the noise, even with 1000+ it's hard to keep up with friends and close ones.
- evonne
You hear a lot more with less followers. I only follow about 260 and that's enough for me. With @mentions, you don't need to follow people to engage with them.
- Steve Farnworth
Robert: Right, as long as you don't have like 1k constant posters in there I agree. I think its fun to follow less people have have twitter 'buddies'
- James Watters
I understand your logic I believe there is a better way to get rid of unwanted noise than throw everyone out
- RetiredTeacherD
Will be interesting to see how this works out, like the innovator part of it though
- Patphelan
And being spammed by people who aren't even following you is downright rude.
- Nicola Quinn
There seems to be a big push for quality (less follows, blogging) going on in mr Scoble #cool
- James Watters
It feels odd saying this when people are talking about 1000's of followers but even with just about 200 followers i find that it sometimes gets difficult to keep up
- Bhowmik Shah
Do u really unfollow everyone, I mean, by clicking manually on every of your 50k users?
- Marcus Schuler
Funny - people agree now... They would've agreed that the way forward was following everyone six months ago! How many here follow less than 2,000 people?
- Scott Gould
Dear god I hope he scripted it through the API, I sure would.
- James Watters
Marcus: I am running a script from SocialToo that is unfollowing everyone.
- Robert Scoble
ah....okay....I thought...... :-)
- Marcus Schuler
I've often wondered how anyone following so many people can get any value from Twitter. Why not just watch the public timeline?
- Mark Meyer
from iPhone
Most people do respond to their @replys so following everyone is not as important as I think it used to be. I have gotten lots of great response from just @'s I like keeping my number in the 400's to be able to see what is going on.
- Luke Kilpatrick
If people still following you then what's the problem? I also agree with Mark Meyer enough is enough.
- claire adams
I read every tweet of everyone I follow.
- James Watters
I think following, strictly speaking, should be a two-way ranked thing. If people are having *conversations* @reply or direct then I think following is fair. Anything one-sided, i.e. marketing, self promotion, celebs etc just devalues things. You need to be rewarded for active social grouping.
- Justin Howard
Mark: believe it or not, but the public timeline still had about 4x more noise (1/4 signal) of my 100,000 person feed.
- Robert Scoble
I also think with 'mentions' now it's not quite so important to be following everyone as you can see and respond to references or messages to you.
- Nicola Quinn
Nicola: mentions is nice, but the last thing I use twitter for is to learn about me. I want to see industry thoughts as they are born, so I think its important to read each person I follow carefully.
- James Watters
From time to time it's necessary to do a twitter clean-up. That's why I think Twitter interface should change a bit and allow us to choose many followers to delete them.
- Jordi Soler
Robert, if you haven't seen this, check out this post on Jim Connoly's blog - http://jimsmarketingblog.com/2009... He did something similar at the begining of the year.
- Liviu Lica
James, I'm not sure that's the best place to do that anymore, what with all the 'Make money from Twitter' spam about. And that's not what I use it for. Plus I do read as many of my 2000 followers messages as I can!
- Nicola Quinn
Funny. This is what I said back when people like Guy Kawasaki said "follow everyone". How do you truly add to the conversation and continually engage with certain people by only responding to @replies and keyword searches. That means you are almost trying to predict conversations.
- Daniel Zarick
from iPhone
Liviu: yeah, I remember being jealous of Jim, even while thinking he was wrong. Turns out I was wrong.
- Robert Scoble
Nicola: Are we confusing 'follows' and followers? I NEVER autofollowed...I follow personally 175 people and read them all is my point; how many people are following me is a different question right?
- James Watters
Is http://www.refollow.com unworkable with a larger amount of people?
- Justin Howard
lol takes a big man to admit he was wrong Robert :)
- Nicola Quinn
Using t4bp.com you can pretty easily follow up to 500 - beyond that gets paged. Also, like others here, I find beyond about 500 you can't really "follow" them. I don't even watch the real-time timeline of those I follow anymore. It would be a full-time job!
- Glenn
Please explain why my # of followers relates to the # of people I follow :)
- James Watters
@Scott i follow less than 250
- Bhowmik Shah
James I don't auto follow. And I won't follow those who are obviously using those hideous bots to do their following. Must admit there have been few I have chosen to follow back recently.
- Nicola Quinn
Nicola: thanks. I guess to me twitter is a great place to 'read' so every day I"ll prune and maintain the list of people I follow regardless of who follows me.
- James Watters
Robert: You were NOT wrong to not to copy me, when I reset my account in January. It's always best to wait and see if something is the right ft for you first. Props for doing this Robert - I will blog about your experiences later on The Tech News Blog!
- Jim Connolly
James, there see, I'm following you now cos I like your bio :)
- Nicola Quinn
Nicola, lol, which one FF or twitter :) But make sure I"m worth it!
- James Watters
It'd be great too if you could separate the people you follow in groups. One for the media, one for the people with whom you have conversations, one for your RSS feeds...
- Jordi Soler
Jordi: If you use a twitter client you can sort follows in different groups ;)
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
Dennis: except that is VERY lame. What happens when a better client comes out? You are totally screwed.
- Robert Scoble
James, both, just done FF too. We'll have to see if you're worth it. There's always unfollow... :)
- Nicola Quinn
Dennis: I've tried Tweetdeck but I didn't like it that much. Which one would you recommend?
- Jordi Soler
Nicola, sweet, but yes unfollow quickly if I'm a waste of time. I hope you like cloud computing, its most of what I talk about. Kinda niche!
- James Watters
James, well I like clouds and computing, so we shall see :)
- Nicola Quinn
Robert: True. Tweetdeck support client sync, but I agree. Its more of a pseudo grouping and it doesn't really work well.
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
Jordi: I'm using Tweetdeck as well. I used to use Twhirl, so getting used to Tweetdeck took some time. You could try with Seesmic Desktop which is similar to Tweetdeck. There really aren't any other clients that can compete with Tweetdeck or Seesmic Desktop
- Dennis Bjørn Petersen
Dennis: Seesmic Desktop Web would be the best choice if it was possible: being in the cloud, at least I wouldn't have to make the configuration in all of my computers. I'll wait and see...
- Jordi Soler
I tend to unfollow if the poster isn't posting anything useful, or if after 10 @replies they still haven't @replied back, or if it's just a publicity feed for some sleb updated not by them but by their PR team, essentially telling me nothing more than I'd get from the RSS feed off their agent's corporate website.
- Matt Moran
Welcome to the Small Numbers Game. It does not really matter if Twitter or FriendFeed is the "best" tool for you - as long as it is the best tool. Personally I do not "get" FriendFeed at all, and Twitter has become my primary tool for my interests.
- Ruben Olsen
Ruben: you are a CTO and you don't get FriendFeed? Wild. And you're supposed to be deciding on all sorts of complex stuff? Amazing.
- Robert Scoble
Lol ur really going for it..I'm watching u slash ur follower list as I type. It's a veritable Twitter cleansing op. As I've previously said ur auto-follow policy was what started me tweeting in the first place. That being said I never adopted the same strategy for the same reason I won't bulk unfollow. I've tried going through my follower list with a hatchet knife but can't bring myself...
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- noxhanti
I much much prefer following folks in friendfeed (likes, easy grouping). I chat with folks in Twitter but can't group and filter them like I would prefer to.
- Mark Essel
from iPhone
Mark, yeah, FriendFeed is a great Twitter client ;) Groups, lists, searches/filters..
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
from email
I agree with Bhowmik, I have just about developed the ability to follow two hundred. Turns out some of the people I think that I want to follow end up not so interesting. Gave up on the column/sorting Tweetdeck for Seesmic In-Browser and searches. Routinely toss out people I follow who are not so engaging in exchange for new ones. I applaud your mass dumping. Never understood the "courtesy follow". Probably only works for broadcasting commercial accounts.
- suecosby
First the great Twitter Spam Clean of last week and now this... much movement in The Force
- GadgetGuy
My way of minimising the noise is pretty lo-fi, but it works for me. Using the Twitter web interface I mark as Favorites tweets from people I either want to keep an eye on or who I regularly correspond with. Even better if I create a favorite entry that has multiple twitter accounts in the tweet. Like I said, a lo-fi Twitter bookmark-style solution.
- GadgetGuy
I wasn't sure if this post was going to be worth a "like," but the conversation covers some great points. This is really the reason that Friendfeed has more value than Twitter: the value in the conversations. For me, Twitter has almost become little more than a RSS aggregator, with very little real conversation. If you're not using Frindfeed because you don't "get it," then you're not subscribing to the right people, the right rooms, or the right searches.
- Chris Rogers
from BuddyFeed
I'm new to FriendFeed. Do I have to see @replies that people I follow from twitter make to random people. I do not see these @replies in twitter, but they show up in FriendFeed. They are replies to people I do not even follow. Any advice?
- James M. Davis
I'm following about 2000 people, but a lot of them are formal or informal news outlets and organizations that I'm interested in. I made a point of following librarians, gardeners, photographers, writers, editors, environmentalists, scientists, and geeks, plus people who like the same TV shows I like. I also made a point of following people around the world so if something is happening...
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- Joan Weytze
I can completely understand why you made the purge you did. I never understood how you and others were really able to "follow" as many people as you did. Dropping to a smaller number seems to make much more sense. Glad to see you writing about WHY you are making the change. Thanks for the great writing you continue to do.
- Dan York
Why would I want to follow anyone other than someone who has 'gained' my attention by being more interesting than distracting. If I follow you and you offer to make me rich, or say the same thing too many times ... you're blocked. If you want to follow me, then I'd better see interesting when I check you out.
- Don Strickland
So, Ok... my standard practice since first log on is vindicated by you *finally* figuring out how to use social media...
- Teresa Boze
So when are you going to delete all your 25,000 FriendFeed subscriptions?
- Gary
If you are trying to catch everything in your Twitter stream you're nuts anyway. If you follow 10 chatty people you will have trouble keeping up. If you follow 10,000 who don;t say anything you'll feel lonely anyway. I do have a separate account that follows a handful of people I know personally, but I certainly would not like it to be my main Twitter account and even there I don't try...
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- Robert Morrison
Great move Robert. Hope others follow your lead.
- Mike Doeff
sounds like you mixed two different ways of using twitter: 1) discovering stuff, 2) engaging in a conversation with mutual interested indivuals. Are you bringing you're twitter account back to the second? So, what happens with the discovery then?
- Jaco van Wilgenburgh
btw: do you use friendfeed with a client? or via the browser?
- Jaco van Wilgenburgh
So, Robert Scoble (@scobleizer) just reversed course completely on "how" he uses Twitter. Beginning of the end? ;-)
- Joel Bennett
"actually I've found that most people will less than 2,000 follows have value"...but you had more than 2,000 followers/ing and you had value, Robert! I subscribe to a lot of news/blog feeds on Twitter that have thousands & now millions of followers and I get a lot out of that.
- Liz
"actually I've found that most people will less than 2,000 follows have value"...but you had more than 2,000 followers/ing and you had value, Robert! There are some people/news/blog feeds that have a lot of followers but still provide great information even if one-on-one conversation isn't possible. By the way, go to @optmeout and follow the instructions if Auto-DMs are a problem...I hardly get any now.
- Liz
Amen! regarding spam in Twitter DMs. It's crazy. It's like everyone thinks it's their personal platform to pitch whatever stuff they're advertising. No, a DM is supposed to be the way to communicate directly with one person when you have something specific to say to that person. I hate the way it's been abused. I do not send out auto-DMs and I do not auto-follow.
- Colleen O'Donnell Pierce
Robert - you know my approach. FriendFeed is where I track my different worlds. Lists are fantastic, and search blows away Twitter and Google. I rely on keywords and @replies to manage Twitter.
- Hutch Carpenter
Robert, so sad to see you unfollowing so, so many people but I understand it. I'm approaching 600 people on TweetDeck and it is working for me so far...Definitely pushing the limits though! You definitely can't maintain close relationships with thousands and thousand of people but I would encourage you to think about Henry Ford who once said he could "press a button and get the wisdom...
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- Dan Ross
Wow - truly the end of an era. Well, Robert, you were the first person I followed on Twitter and it absolutely made my day when you followed back (even though I realized at the time that it was an auto-follow response.) So, thanks for that! ;)
- Matthew Blaisdell
Matthew: that's OK, I'm following you here now. I wonder what system we'll both move to next?
- Robert Scoble
listening to ""The Garden of Delight" - Live at The Whisky A Go Go, Halloween 2008 - The Orphics" - http://blip.fm/~9uyey
http://festivalofthelion.eventbrite.com for tickets to the Festival of the Lion show to benefit @lightningtemple -- Whisky AGoGo, August 7th midnight!
- evonne
from Blip.fm
The East Los Angeles NetSquared Group (Los Angeles, CA) - Meetup.com - http://www.meetup.com/The-Eas...
Awesome, would prefer downtown meetups to Santa Monica.
- evonne
Google SMS for your phone - http://www.google.co.ug/mobile...
Google SMS is a suite of mobile applications that allows you to find information on topics as diverse as sexual
- Howard Rheingold
Very cool, thanks for the link!
- evonne
With @nadiasalamanca @brandenb @maxgladwell @bruneski @argam daryl hannah and the @ran crew at an amazing event w/ @causecast. So epic.
Sorry I can't join you this time around, sounds like a great group!
- evonne
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