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Itachi to Itachi's feed, Economics, US Politics, FF Investors Club, Oil Talk, Middle East Discussion
Dubai Teaches Us How Capitalism Works - http://www.businessinsider.com/dubai-m...
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"The news that creditors of Dubai World will not be made whole by either the governments of Dubai or Abu Dhabi is still being absorbed by the markets and journalists, many of whom assumed that a bailout was in the works."
- Itachi
from Bookmarklet
Then again, Dubai is really small and doesn't have the rabid, panic-mongering media to whip the population into a morbid fear of total economic collapse in the case of no bailout. I firmly believe the reasons behind the most recent recession are as much rooted in psychological snowballing as they are in economics and hard numbers.
- LANjackal
Consumers Find Mobile Web Disappointing, Slow to Load - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
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For businesses who maintain a web presence, the survey's findings highlight the potential consequences of ignoring the mobile web. There are more people surfing mobile sites than ever before - 56.9 million as of July, according to Nielsen. Companies who haven't given consideration to their mobile websites aren't just losing customers for that initial attempted transaction that goes bad - they're possibly losing those customers for good seeing as how many of those frustrated users claim they won't ever return to the site in question.
- Amy Gahran
Too bad it didn't say what phones were used so we'd semi-know what browsers were used and what the experience was. The speed and experience on the iPhone seems pretty good. As far as claiming they'll never return - That's questionable and is only a factor if ones' competitors have a better mobile site for them to go to and that's unlikely. A lot of the answers are unrealistic - like as fast as their desktop - but then the questions might have been slued since the study was done by an optimization company.
- PXLated
another great reason for companies to embrace SM such as twitter or facebook, which have skilled developers optimizing the interface for various platforms
- Mike Chelen
Exclaim Track: Track Twitter Search Terms Over IM In Near Real Time - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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The Beatles & The Monkees, together at last - Paperback Believer http://mag.ma/andrew/60055
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Say Cheese - http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009...
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There is absolutely no way Twitter will replace RSS - that's ludicrous to think a closed system will replace an open one.
- Jesse Stay
It is replacing it
- Steve Gillmor
I read your post via RSS, not Twitter - I would have missed it if it came through Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
Not to mention that Twitter can't read blogs
- Jesse Stay
OK, that's one for Twitter. One for RSS. Keep counting.
- Steve Gillmor
at least not without RSS
- Jesse Stay
when I read blogs on Twitter they're links. Doesn't go through RSS.
- Steve Gillmor
Let's see - Twitter has how many users, vs. the entire internet? I'm counting.
- Jesse Stay
I understand what you're saying Jesse. Keep counting
- Steve Gillmor
Last I checked, even Twitter has to rely on RSS to aggregate to external sites.
- Jason Huebel
And those links were discovered how? I bet each one started as RSS somewhere
- Jesse Stay
In addition, there are many technical details in RSS that Twitter simply doesn't replicate. For instance, media enclosures.
- Jason Huebel
enclosures are being supplanted by streaming
- Steve Gillmor
RSS streams, too
- Jesse Stay
Yet, services like Boxee use RSS to pull in content from streaming services. Any 3rd party would be insane to rely on Twitter as a central aggregation point unless they liked seeing FAIL Whales all the time.
- Jason Huebel
Amen Jason
- Jesse Stay
Twitter != aggregation nirvana. Not by a longshot.
- Jason Huebel
see editor's note
- Steve Gillmor
FriendFeed uses RSS as well. It's how I read this article.
- Jesse Stay
twitter is manual while rss is automagic ;)
- Anthony Farrior
I'd say FriendFeed/Twitter has more growth headroom where RSS is somewhat stalled (and currently unfashionable). Polemics are still immature
- oliver marks
same arguments were used against RSS originally.
- Steve Gillmor
Oliver that's ridiculous. As Twitter/FriendFeed grows, so does RSS. RSS is their backbone.
- Jesse Stay
@oliver, RSS is hardly stalled. It's included-- by default-- in all major/notable CMS's, blogs, etc.
- Jason Huebel
@Steve, yes but RSS is an open standard. You aren't required to rely on any one company. With respect, that is the flaw in your argument.
- Jason Huebel
Jason: why is RSS more open than Twitter or FriendFeed?
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, because no one single company controls it
- Jesse Stay
Twitter doesn't control micromessaging
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, if Twitter or FriendFeed dies, RSS lives on. If Dave Winer dies, it lives on.
- Jesse Stay
Sorry Steve, this is just a totally silly debate heh
- Chris Saad
But your argument is that Twitter would be the replacement for RSS.
- Jason Huebel
Steve, what Chris said
- Jesse Stay
I'm now confused at what we're arguing - seems to have shifted.
- Jesse Stay
no my argument is that Twitter (read FriendFeed) IS the replacement for RSS
- Steve Gillmor
Chris and Jesse if you're bored, leave please
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, FriendFeed and Twitter *are powered* by RSS
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: and other things too
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, I didn't say I was bored. I said it was a silly debate, agreeing with Chris.
- Jesse Stay
Steve, so it seems they aren't going to be replacing RSS any time soon if all of this is powered by RSS
- Jesse Stay
I'm bored and I think there is far more important angles and issues on the table that need to discussed and I wish you would add your voice to those instead
- Chris Saad
I've often wondered why people stick around for silly debates.
- Steve Gillmor
@Steve do you mean twitter is the new way to promo content? I would say in that context you have a point
- Anthony Farrior
jesse: all this stuff is powered by all the stuff that came first
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, so RSS isn't going away? I'm confused now.
- Jesse Stay
did I say RSS is going away. no.
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, you just said it was being replaced by Twitter/FriendFeed
- Jesse Stay
correct, in my house it certainly is
- Steve Gillmor
Second comment above, "It is replacing it"
- Jesse Stay
RSS is the fuel providing the power
- Anthony Farrior
going away != replaced
- Steve Gillmor
Steve says "Twitter is replacing RSS" All the arguments here are not addressing that issue, they're saying why RSS is better. That's beside the point. Lisp is best programming language in the world, no one uses it.
- Phil Windley
parse my words but please don't replace them and expect me to agree
- Steve Gillmor
thanks Phil
- Steve Gillmor
So to replace means something has to not exist any more. I'm very confused.
- Jesse Stay
metaphors can be confusing. I feel your pain
- Steve Gillmor
Phil, but everyone still uses RSS. Not the same argument.
- Jesse Stay
twitter recommends content. Are you saying you now prefer what other people give you instead of picking rss feeds to read yourself?
- Anthony Farrior
okay setting up my new blog i ll replace the rss-feed with a follow me on twitter banner and then redirect updates for new posts to my twitter stream'? seriously, wtf ;-)
- michael h
RSS value & use models are well understood: Twitter is still a mystery to most. RSS scale is an issue: becomes a pavlovian recursive exercise where Twitter is more freeform
- oliver marks
ANthony: no, I choose the people who recommend articles and they provide a more efficient way of handling the flow
- Steve Gillmor
@michael provide both links
- Anthony Farrior
@Steve Ahhh I think I understand .... The "human" suggestion factor instead of the cold push factor
- Anthony Farrior
anthony yes, but not instead. the replacement is gradual and never one or the other
- Steve Gillmor
@anthony thats an answer, why not BOTH ;-) ? I don t get the big fuss bout the issue. anyone should choose
- michael h
There's still a place for both factors. RSS fits in quite nicely with the social element.
- Jesse Stay
@Steve the people you choose to recommend you content probably use RSS so you are just moving down one link further
- Anthony Farrior
Anthony, exactly - Social is simply a layer on top of RSS. It will grow with social, but like it is currently, not everyone will use it directly.
- Jesse Stay
I don't think anything has changed in that matter.
- Jesse Stay
Lets see the list of the once that stoped using RSS ...anyone here ?
- Johni Fisher
...crickets...
- Anthony Farrior
again, the arguments you use were used against RSS itself
- Steve Gillmor
See my comment here: http://friendfeed.com/windley... - RSS is the C, or even assembly language, of the social web.
- Jesse Stay
Steve :saying that you just have to compare the ways that we consume both servcs
- Johni Fisher
don't understand johni
- Steve Gillmor
I cant see no one here that will drop the RSS for Twitter ,when you say replacing it is not the right word in my opinion as we all keep our RSS feeds incoming or outgoing at our blogs etc ... Twitter is an additional stvc but not more than that ,,
- Johni Fisher
understand that johni. don't agree in the larger context of the trend.
- Steve Gillmor
Other important point is the comercial one , I cant see yet the way that we all can benefit from Twitter or a way that Twitter can get an important income from this replacement ,in compare to Google reader or the others ..money move the world if I am not wrong :-))
- Johni Fisher
yes johni, it is harder to see where the money will come, but it will be clearer very soon.
- Steve Gillmor
oh boy I forgot you are now part of the techcrunch gang, you probably know something we don't...Is greader about replace rss feeds for twitter updates? *nervous lol*
- Anthony Farrior
Google Wave might.
- Garin Kilpatrick
I think that there is no other way for Twitter to make 2010 without Google ,when this will come the change with the integration to Wave will be able to replace the RSS ,in the case that you have this info at your side we can agree
- Johni Fisher
RSS is a way of pushing out content. There is no need to push it out if it is live.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Real-Time > RSS am I right?
- Garin Kilpatrick
Garin, RSS is real-time as well. See rssCloud and Hubbub
- Jesse Stay
Exactly but Steve has resorted to the human touch, the "I recommend and therefore I retweet"...
- Anthony Farrior
publish subscribe hub pubsubhub
- Anthony Farrior
I don't RSS going anywhere. There will always be uses for it. But there are always many different ways of digesting information
- Seth Goldstein
There are some truths in here that go beyond the narrow "social" or "tech" tag. Great read.
- Aron Michalski
So is RSS the http://tinyurl.com/first-m... or candidate for oldest "living" http://www.scotsmagazine.com/ ? I'm hopeful most folks reading and contributing here were party to the orgy of exuberance for Gopher... I mean HTTP. RSS as it exists today will be something that gets leapfrogged as every other moment-in-time solution has so far. Sitting back and clinging to RSS format is just [insert widget] attention span competition. Format wars are mutually assured stagnation. Stagnation is death.
- Jay Cuthrell
So, I was wondering... does RSS afford this kind of debate as part of its structure?
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff - sure, we just post our comments to each other on the doors of the Schlosskirche via RSS
- Jay Cuthrell
RSS is dying a slow death. So long as content is syndicated RSS will remain alive; right now RSS is alive and well. But the life of online technologies are short, since technologies shift, and once online content distribution shifts fully from syndication to synchronization RSS will be dead. The Real-Time web will have killed it.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Can't we all just be friends?
- Francine Hardaway
Francine just gave me a RSS-FOAF flashback :)
- Jay Cuthrell
Twitter is not real-time for putting through blog links unless someone happens to be on the news site, reads the article, and posts a link to Twitter within minutes (unless the author manually posts the link). Pubsubhubbub will still beat that by minutes or seconds. Many like me feed through to Twitter using Twitterfeed which uses typical RSS technology.
- beersage
Twitter claims to be real-time but it is not there yet. Neither is ff, but they are closer. I am excited to see the mark the Google wave makes on this scene.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Francine, I think Scoble tried to be friends with everybody but it didn't work out.
- Cliff Gerrish
Does this argument matter? Is it more than a way to pass the time?
- Michael Markman
Yes
- Steve Gillmor
Is there a compelling reason to further evangelize your point? We get it it. Fantastic, for you, it's dead. Makes perfect sense. But at this point you're not just beating a dead horse, you're beating the top soil covering the hole in which you buried the horse. How about we move on to more constructive things.
- Benjamin Taylor
Benjamin: I wrote this in May. Others continue to discuss it. I will respond when my ethics or credibility is attacked. Various folks have asked me to elaborate and I have. If you're tired of it, unfollow me. And expressing what I see as valuable is never unconstructive from my perspective. Leaving insinuation and misinformation unchallenged is unconstructive imo.
- Steve Gillmor
WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS MESSAGE BEING DELIVERED TO OUR CHILDREN - http://alejandroz.soup.io/post...
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BBC: "A youth centre uses The Sound of Music songs to drive away young people reluctant to go home at closing time." http://c.oy.ly/kddn
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Excited to announce The Gillmor Gang will return to the network Thursdays at 1PM Pacific, starting Thursday August 27th. Stay tuned.
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Because someone needs to get it out of the way... "Screw You Arrington. Screw You!"
- Bastard Operator From FF
yay!
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Which Network?
- George MacDonald
Excellent news. I've missed the show. TWiT?
- No Agenda Forums
Good, good.
- Jonathan Brown
Looking forward to it. Always pop new shows to the top of the stack.
- Paul Grous
*shudder*.. I hope not... The show wasn't the same by a wide margin when it was on TWiT...
- Rasmus Lauridsen
That's great news. Love the show.
- Kahlil Lechelt
nice one - can't wait to tune in again
- pablo
Tremendous news. Looking forward to it.
- Mike Doeff
Sweet. - Gillmor Gang was one of my favorite couple hours of the week. Dave and Marshall are doing a nice job over at bad hair day - but I am definitely excited for the return of GG.
- andrew
Will it be available for download again?
- nick
Excellent.
- Jay Cuthrell
Hallelujah!
- Dan Weinstein
Show must go on.
- Mindaugas Dagys
Truly glad to hear it! Also like the NGL sign on your Twitpic. :)
- Karoli
Whooooooooooo----f'king hoooooooooo! It's on my Calendar-in-the-Cloud
- Francine Hardaway
More comebacks than Sinatra, yay :-) Will there be a podcast of it too, pretty please for your *fans* that can't make the time schedule?
- Scottish Lass
Steve: This is great news!
- Jim Connolly
Somebody better update the Wikipedia entry...
- Cliff Gerrish
YES! YES! YES! Thank you Steve - this makes me happy!
- Michael Pinto
For those on the other side of the planet will you be able to grab the show via RSS - oh I forgot RSS is dead, right?
- John Chrisoulakis
Good!
- John Wright
yay! Best news of the week! All I guess this an announcement that the Gillmor Gang is dead as well!
- Phillip Molly Malone
I might be able to come out of hiding now... we'll see.
- Aron Michalski
Excellent news to end the week! Look forward to it.
- Diego Barros
What a one-two punch. Gillmor serves it up on Thurs aft and the Bad Hair Boys knock it out of the park in the early evening! :-)
- Dave Winer
Good news. So who's on the show?
- Michael Metz
Probably too much to ask, but for posterity, please repost the GG archives! There, I said it.
- Scott Mace
There go my afternoons!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Will be interesting to see, will Mr. Arrington be participating...lol
- Johann Diaz
from Nambu
Missed the Gang so much and with the NGL Studio, it will be a tough act to follow for the Bad Hair boys :) #TechThursday FTW
- Alberto Saavedra
why wouldn't Arrington be in it sometimes? It really was Leo who was a "take my ball and go home" crybaby
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Way to go. Looking forward to it.
- Oliver Kohl
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Susan Beebe
This news has made my month! I can't wait...
- Chris Aldrich
i'm hoping that timeshifting options will be available - i probably won't ever be able to catch it live
- Chris Heath
But, but, but...what about podshow?
- Mark Hunter
Very happy to hear this, but I also wonder about RSS support.
- Robert
w00t!!
- Kevin Nunez
Now that's what I'm talkin' about.
- Raphael, Raphael
Where can I find it?
- Richard South
Steve's back!
- Harald Felgner
OPML for Twitter, Day 2 - http://www.scripting.com/stories...
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"Not the drama the reporters want, but the continuity users want." So level headed. Sigh.
- Michael Morisy
RT @stoweboyd... @ifindkarma "Facebook is basically designed like a lobster trap with your friends as bait." http://news.gilbert.org/Outsmar...
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Totally Looks Like… Famous People and Celeb Look-A-Likes - http://totallylookslike.com/upcomin...
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now I can finally find Mississippi on the map!
- BEX
That's hilarious.
- Trish R
GREAT! :)
- Charlie Anzman
Hmmm, I'm seeing Mississippi as more Homer-shaped.
- Slappy Line
Dear Malcolm: Why So Threatened? | Epicenter | Wired.com - http://www.wired.com/epicent...
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Things we said today - http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009...
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FriendFeed Blog: You can now share files on FriendFeed - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
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"To share files on friendfeed.com, simply click the "Files" link underneath the post box and select which files you want to include. You can also share files by including them as attachments on emails sent to share@friendfeed.com."
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
That's the new hawtness!
- Alex Scoble
wow
- michael sean wright
whoa!
- vijay
SEKRIT PLANZ! MWA HA HA HA
- Josh Haley
Excellent news, thank you Bret and guys! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
the game just changed
- chrisofspades
Haha! Nice...
- WorldofHiglet
nice
- endiaferon
This feature will help with using FF solely as a email mailing list.
- Kol Tregaskes
Now we just need page branding and some enterprise integration, and we can replace Sharepoint...
- sean andersen
Plus as a mail client too (kinda of anyway). I will have to get auto-forwarding my emails to my ff.com address again.
- Kol Tregaskes
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. i'm trying to be coherent but that's all that's coming up. Thanks... whats the file size limit?
- Frankie Warren
this has awesomesauce all over it
- Alfredo
is video an option?
- Zee.
We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff.
- Bret Taylor
Are the files public when accessed via direct link? Or do they require authentication?
- Mark Trapp
No video at the moment, Zee.
- Ross Miller
Bret, will this work for attachments sent to share@friendfeed.com?
- chrisofspades
So tell me, how will you send email verification emails to new users when FF has successfully replaced email? </paradox>
- nickrw
nice!
- Mike Bracco
So, no BluRay rips, then :p
- Josh Haley
Mark: right now they are public when access via direct link (though the links are not at all predictable).
- Bret Taylor
Yes, file attachments to share@friendfeed.com work as you would expect.
- Bret Taylor
Very Nice
- Brent - Loving Life
neat-o!
- t i n y m
Bret - is music an option?
- Zee.
WIN
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Any other files that don't work with it?
- Kol Tregaskes
What's the file attachment size limit?
- imabonehead
Kol: i assume you can attach video? it just won't play in-line? or did i misinterpret that?
- Frankie Warren
@imabonehead, from Bret's comment above: "We have a rolling 24-hour limit for the number and size of files you can upload, but you probably shouldn't hit it unless you are sharing really big stuff."
- Dan Hsiao
@Dan, thx
- imabonehead
Liked Liked Liked (*99999) "You can now share files on FriendFeed" This is.. GREAT!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Frankie, video attachments aren't currently supported
- Dan Hsiao
Frankie, Ross says no to video, see above.
- Kol Tregaskes
MP3s?
- Kol Tregaskes
Kol: there is a stricter limit on audio files (3 per day).
- Bret Taylor
Yay, no more rapidshare! :)
- Kaan Ertürk
OK, but any format?
- Kol Tregaskes
I tried it with both a txt and a rar file but neither seemed to work (the message was posted without a file attached). [Update: works now for me]
- Philipp Lenssen
Gonna give a big W00T!! to this before I even read the whole thing...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
LOL, Tina.
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
Perhaps we need a list of file types (and their limits) that are supported?
- Kol Tregaskes
Tina++, Holy Crap! :)
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
music files work! awesome! example here http://friendfeed.com/fredyga...
- Alfredo
Bret: What about attachments to comments?
- sean andersen
Swwwweeeettttt!!!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Now all I need is a number where I can call and leave a VM that gets changed into an audio file, and I can get rid of drop.io for good! Yeah, we're never happy are we? Sorry....
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Greatissimo :)
- Stanislas Jourdan
Bret, does animated GIFs now work btw?
- Kol Tregaskes
Thanks for the clarification on video :) how long will the files stay on the server?
- Frankie Warren
Tina - Perhaps if we leave a VM for the FriendFeed IM bot on Google Talk? That would rock.
- Mitch
Can we paste URLs into the box like we can for images?
- Kol Tregaskes
Seriously, guys, when and where do we start donating?
- Akiva Moskovitz
I'd prefer buying private shares, Akiva. :)
- Carlos Ayala
I think you can support them by buying the FF swags.
- imabonehead
cool
- Siavash
and sharing from URLs works! - http://ff.im/4o1RY
- chrisofspades
NIIIIIIIIIIICE
- Pedram
Pair this w/ a private room and you have instant office and/or project collaboration. Drop.io may have some competition. :)
- JA Castillo
JA, agree.
- Kol Tregaskes
Chris, cool. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
All we need now is a calendaring system and support for source code.
- imabonehead
mp3 sharing works in FriendFeed? Just when I'm thinking to share some 'musiclets' from time to time via Tumblr! mhh.. interesting, really!
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Thierry, yep MP3s are supported.
- Kol Tregaskes
this is awesome, i was literally just trying to do this last night on one of our team feeds and had to post links to published google docs instead. going to try it out now. it's like they read my mind.
- Mike Elliott
Kol...we use Drop.io all the time here at my office. This would be great as it is supremely simpler. But approved file types and sizes needs to be understood.
- JA Castillo
Mitch, that would be an option, but I can only imagine the opportunity for the wrong voice file to go to the wronge feed...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
And Akiva is right...where do we start donating?!
- JA Castillo
If we had basic HTML support for first comments on FF, it could almost be used for mail (at least for forwarding and reading mail to and on it).
- Kol Tregaskes
JA, a list of supported file types, limits and sizes is needed... please. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Cool stuff
- Tyson Key
Any limits on the number of times a file can be downloaded, per day, out of interest?
- Tyson Key
Reminds me of Pownce :) Great addition!
- Holger Eilhard
NaFFster! :)
- jcunwired
Does this mean that the days are numbered for various Pownce clones and Jaiku? Facebook, start your photocopiers! ;)
- Tyson Key
this is GREAT!
- Cee Bee
Now cue Facebook adding this feature in 3.. 2.. 1..
- Daniel Sims
Yay! Friendfeed is yet another step closer to complete emulation of IRC :)
- Victor Ganata
Hey Bret, are these virus-checked?
- Jordan Hofker
@Jordan - good question
- andy brudtkuhl
Jordan, good shout.
- Kol Tregaskes
The moment I read this I updated my AV program.
- jcunwired
Are the shared files located in the enclosure tag of the feed? And can we filter feeds by enclosure type?
- Cliff Gerrish
Jordan- yes, we virus scan them.
- Casey Muller
Cool, Casey. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Awesome, thanks Casey.
- Jordan Hofker
Cliff- only media files (images and audio) are included in feeds at this time.
- Casey Muller
Haha, Victor. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Uh, question two: how long before one of the **AA's gets all pissy? That would be sad. Is there a size limit?
- Jordan Hofker
search by file type?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Jason, good shout.
- Kol Tregaskes
Jordan - what is **AA's ??
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
This will go a long way in convincing some of my Yahoo Groups to move to FF. Although we must have a list of file types supported, retention times and also if there is a max number of d/l's.
- Gil Francisco III
This is awesome but I'm also concerned about the type of people this might bring to the FF community.
- Johnny
Gil, I'm seriously considering moving my Y!Groups list members from there to FF.
- Kol Tregaskes
This is one of those features that people don't complain about even though they didn't ask the community prior to launching ;)
- Frankie Warren
Dare I ask about Boobies.jpg.virus.exe? - Oops Casey says they are virus scanned
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Jannifer: RIAA and MPAA, specifically. Say someone shares a copyrighted song or something...RIAA gets cranky.
- Jordan Hofker
Am I the only person that thinks this is an incredibly bad idea?
- Jason Nunnelley
.m4a files sent from the iPhone's Voice Memos feature aren't given a player but are making it through the mail to FF feature. Any support for a player coming down the line?
- Christopher Harley
How about .zip s that are password-protected? Reject I hope... (edit) .zip not supported at all, I gather, good!
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
yeah search by filetype absolutely! filetype:pdf, filetype:mp3, filetype:zip, filetype:doc etc.
- Nathan Chase
Christoper: (via Bret) "Unfortunately we only can play back MP3s at this point. The iPhone voice memos are in M4A (AAC), so we really want to support them, but it is a bit more difficult with Flash and our media setup at the moment."
- Ross Miller
\m/
- metalerik
abi allah tuttuğunuzu altın etsin **love**
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Jason, I might be with you on this one.
- Johnny
This is nice! Very nice!
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Yippie-kai-yay :))))
- A.T.
Thanks, Ross. The paid app, iProRecorder http://www.iprorecorder.com/ suffers the same limitations.
- Christopher Harley
NICE!!! Been waiting for this... thanks FriendFeed team!
- AJ Batac
Cool! FF is becoming more of a platform of choice for me. Thanks guys :)
- Dilip Dand
Very Cool !!!
- Eric Logan
I'm not sure that I'm going to use that feature (I rarely share docs over the internet that weren't created in Zoho or GDocs, anyway), but still it looks pretty neato.
- Miss Elle
Bret, do you have any restrictions to protect against music filesharers etc so you do not become an RIAA target?
- Travis Koger
@ Travis: I was just wondering the same.
- Brian Chang
Bret Taylor, a friend of mine uploaded 1 mp3 and it disappeared. Now he can't upload any mp3 file, seeing a [The "" file type is not supported]. Broken message?
- Jason Nunnelley
"You can only upload 3 audio files every day. Please try again later." Too bad because I was really just trying to see what files worked. .wav aint one of them. No audio notes from Evernote, iPhone, iProRecorder. I soooo want to love this but It's not doing what I need it to do. This feature needs to support some kind of multi photo post with a recording appended to the message. That should be right out of the box. Video needs to come right behind it. Music is cool but citizen journalism is even cooler.
- Christopher Harley
seriously useful.
- Calvin Ayre
I haven't tested this but, how exactly are you determining audio file types, just using the file extension. If so there is a work around with a simple file rename, an example would be if you change an .mp3 to a .pdf and let people rename it once it becomes local on their machine. EDIT: This workaround would also allow video to be transferred.
- Jimminy Fuller
Maybe I don't know enough, but doesn't this kind of open the door to slipping malicious code to unsuspecting users?
- Fleagle
this is the best thing I know this morning when I open my eyes, well done!
- K.D.
that is AWESOME!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
Fleagle: It is possible that someone would do that but FriendFeed is fairly well self monitored. It is still a small group of people in comparison to other networks.
- Jimminy Fuller
Glad for this feature, though perhaps close partnership with Box.net or similar could keep FF storage costs better contained? Not criticizing, just hoping Core Team doesn't get distracted by extending (and babysitting) commodity services. Keep up the great work!
- michael silverton
Kudos on the added features!
- Eric @ CSTechcast.com
可以分享文件，friendfeed更好用了。
- 老巫师
哇塞，这个强的。 I like it.
- xiawinter
Wow. Just wow. Thanks.
- Laura Norvig
NICE! Thanks for the info.
- Cyndi ~ @muchmorethanmom
Tell us more. Tell us EVERYTHING about the file "FF secret plans.pdf" shown in the blogpost <http://friendfeed-media.com/0fe9b6e...>.
- ianf ⌘
Oh, very awesome!
- Scott Magdalein
It's *machine code*.
- Karl Knechtel
Karl: FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
So we can setup private groups and share questionable files ? :)
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
That's pretty much what I was saying, Ahsan. I did one earlier as a test to prove my point, (NOTE: it is a clean file, direct from Revision 3) at http://friendfeed.com/jimminy...
- Jimminy Fuller
Excellent! Thank you!
- Diego Barros
"Rapidshare Fined $34 Million for Copyright Infringement" (http://mashable.com/2009...)
- Ozkan Altuner
Hmmm @Ryo, good catch, posting directly from Android to FF your voice messages, would be cool!
- Ozkan Altuner
Can we tell the lawyers that they "won" and give them all the money? Then start over with a new set of I.P. laws and a new currency? Pretty please?
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Must you force downloads on HTML files?
- Raphael, Raphael
This is great. I'll try this instead of posting to Ipernity.
- Rick Cogley
Seems like a good step in the right direction indeed the concerns are founded based on previous experiences but it is a good start.
- Ubuntu101
Is it possible to set it up as part of the feed like a podcast?
- Ubuntu101
Excellento - inline playing of mp3 files at last - this will be dangerous. But is there are limit??
- Chris Loft
embedding mp3's is just fine when it works .. I've been trying to get a podcast rss feed I have setup imported for the past 8 hours straight only to find out that each time it's not importing squat.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
I take that back it worked once but everything in the description tags showed up twice.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
:( Apparently not *.pdn files (Paint.Net)
- Raphael, Raphael
Thx! FF continues to rock :)
- Krishnamoorthy
why the limit on audio files?
- Tyler Gillies
Can us folks with Symbian OS-based devices have some Adaptive Multi-Rate codec/AMR file love, too? I believe that some Samsung and NEC phones also use that audio file format...
- Tyson Key
Oh, and Google Earth KML files, and Ogg Vorbis files aren't supported right now either, for what it's worth. Still, it's a nice idea, so far.
- Tyson Key
wow :)
- Mucio
I'm disappointed that the PDF of your secret plans is only 1.2 mb. Surely there's more?
- Dnl
anyone know the file size limit?
- Julian Seery Gude
My old Motorola Que made .3gp files too. Facebook can process them. You want to be at least as cool as Facebook, right?
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!
- Micah Wittman
FYI Micah, it works with *.user.js files... you know what that means...
- Mitch
*happy dance* this is really innovative and highly useful...thanks FF :)
- Susan Beebe
oh heck yes
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Tried to share an .hta file with Micah yesterday....couldn't attach it. Tried to zip it and still couldn't attach it. Ended up tossing it in my dropbox and posting the link. :-(
- April Russo (app103)
LOL at the FF secret plans.pdf!!
- Darren Heydon
"Life is all about ass. You're either covering it, laughing it off, kicking it, kissing it, busting it, or trying to get a piece of it." #fb
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LMAO
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
I've never tried to get a piece of it, I gots enoughs junks in teh trunks :)
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
:)
- Mona Nomura
Well said. :)
- Holger Eilhard
I can't take credit for this genius, I read it on a greeting card and it just came back to me!
- Mona Nomura
from IM
very ass-tute observation. (Sorry, couldn't help myself)
- Kamath (नमः)
Hahahaha!! ASS-TUTE. Great, now I'm going to be laughing all day at that.
- Mona Nomura
from IM
True dat
- TheHenry
Even reading this again here... Still Priceless!
- Walt Ruppar
They forgot sitting on it and Friend Feeding out of it!
- SAM
Or talking out it!
- Rick Cogley
Frankly, I find this rather assinine
- David
Heh. Dunno, David, I think it's classy.
- Rick Cogley
Nice.
- Bradley Farless
words of wisdom indeed!
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
I CAN HASS WISDOM?
- Rick Cogley
There's a line in Swiss Family Robinson about wrapping one in a thong, so they can more easily float it to shore. To this day I have no clue what that means.
- Matthew DeVries
camen design · Video for Everybody! - http://camendesign.com/code...
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"Video For Everybody is very simply a chunk of HTML code that embeds a video into a website using the HTML5 <video> element which offers native playback in Firefox 3.5 and Safari 3 & 4 ... In other browsers that do not support <video>, it falls back to Adobe Flash ... If Flash is not installed, QuickTime is used (which allows playback on the iPhone) ... If QuickTime is not installed then Windows Media Player is used in Internet Explorer for Windows Vista and above. ... Finally, if all else fails, a warning is issued that provides links to download the video, and links to software relevant to getting the video to play within the browser itself. ... This is all done without JavaScript and requires only two video encodes, one OGG file for Firefox 3.5, and one MP4 file for everything else (Flash / Safari / iPhone)."
- l.m.orchard
The Delta Flow - http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009...
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what i would love to say to these guys is this: i wasn't born a programmer. i became one because i was impatient.
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Down by the old MillStream - http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009...
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being able to splice tracks into a larger stream would be perfect, I've been playing with the ability to search by service and then trying to put that together with some of my existing lists...can't quite figure out how to do it yet. Interesting to me that the conference froze Evan of identi.ca out, saying there was no agenda for open source microblogging. Such is the nature of the...
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- Karoli
Okay, here's Re-booting the News #10 http://www.scripting.com/stories... Topics include: bug catching as an ethic the news producers would do well to adopt, Maureen Dowd, ease-of-use in tech and journalism, Jay's one year on Twitter, Savviness, Elvis Costello's Whats So Funny' Bout Peace Love and Understanding
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As usual, I heard only the first part on the way to work, but the mention of EC intrigues... I love the notion of corrections as bug reports. When I launched story-specific feedback at The Sun years ago, the original version was supposed to say: "Did we get it right?" That got boiled down to something less threatening, but even that brought in a lot of valuable critiques from readers. As Dan Gilmor says, your readers know more than you do. Not surprisingly, they're happy to share that knowledge.
- tim windsor
watched @stephenfry on @coollike "he's got the secret of all great comedians" That he has. http://www.llewtube.com/
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The Swarms of Silence - http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009...
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I like talking about Twitter too!
- Robert Scoble
Steve's opening lede: "I like talking about Twitter. I have no problem with Oprah getting hip to Twitter. I have no problem with being left off the Suggested List. I have no problem with Twitter having dropped Track and slowed the micromessaging era until it became totally obvious that Twitter is a transcendent shift in the fabric of the network. All the rest is noise. That’s because of people like the guys who are building out FriendFeed."
- Robert Scoble
The line: "It’s not easy to hold your fire, or speak when you’re afraid of not being perfect" stands out for me. The reason that i've stopped reading blogs, google alerts, etc., is because people have gamed the system. There's way too much noise. I don't think you can do that in realtime so the real interesting people with depth and knowledge appear on my radar in a service like FriendFeed RealTime.
- Troy Benohanian
Troy: that's an interesting insight, but everyone and everything is gamable, me thinks. It's just what systems are more resistant to gaming. Or which ones seem to have no return on gaming investment.
- Robert Scoble
Troy - I think at some point all social systems are going to end up being "gamed" it is the nature of the business and the people who are in it. Not everyone comes from motives of sharing, there are still many people who make money off selling snake oil. That won't change any time soon, but nice comment on this.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
More filtering will help, but don't you think people who are freaked out about realtime mostly either: 1) Can't get comfortable with not attending to every little thing, or 2) Are following too many people?
- Amyloo
per steve, friendfeed's goal is to "foster a suite of tools for managing the rich flow of metadata orbiting content objects on the information network" - i like this concept, which i'm assuming is paraphrased from either bret or paul - this is actually a pretty pro-friendfeed and twitter fanboy light post from steve, who appears to be opening up to the potential that friendfeed is not a waste of time, not that his blessing is necessary but some folks still pay attention to him ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
As Steve mentioned, we're not there yet. The subscribe/block/mute abilities of these services give them the advantage over traditional alerts and email and the gentle culling of your own lists from time to time serve as weeding in your own attention garden. Yet to bloom are the advanced filters and cross-pollination some of us desire but it's early in the growing season (aw crap, can you tell I was in the backyard gardening this morning? Metaphor is always found in real time real life gestures...).
- Aron Michalski
For realtime network fans, the ability to have these platforms co-exist and connect in a timely fashion allows for the exchange of ideas, the experience of a gathering, the ability to riff on someone else's phrase when it's fresh and uncontaminated by time and noise. Sure, chess by mail is fine for some but we now have the ability to sit across the table wherever we are, as many of us who want to play.
- Aron Michalski
And here's an idea; is anyone working on Friendfeed meshing with a comment service (disqus, seesmic, facebook, etc.) in the other direction, our identities optionally posting here and putting our realtime thoughts into the bottom of thoughtful posts, so no matter where you are, there it is?
- Aron Michalski
Disqus is supposed to be doing that on the blog end, not sure about how it would work here. I know the comment stream is fragmented here between blog comments, tweets and friendfeed. given a choice, I'd prefer they aggregate on the blog.
- Karoli
The Twitting Point - http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009...
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Great quote: "When we understand our metadata, our attention breadcrumbs, our gestures can and are being harvested, syndicated, and metered back to us, will we one more time leave it to the professionals to steal all our money and our childrens’ future?"
- The Neurocritic
Lego's Salvador Dali and His Lobster Phone - http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeand...
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Andreessen in realtime - http://www.techcrunchit.com/2009...
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