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lol, did not expect that at all - Chris Conway

hehe! i don't think he's gonna call her now after that... :D :o - iTad

She can call me if she wants!! :-) - Dave Winer

That was hilarious. :-) - Mathew A. Koeneker

I was expecting her to say something about having an STD. - Louie

@Dave .... Lol...She is a cutie though eh - Zee.

Someone is a bit pissed... She is kinda cute though :) - Michael Forian

Looking forward to seeing Gary in a Youtube video-response ;) - Migger

OMG! - ※Fu※

hahahahahahahaaa [Edit] Somebody wouldn't give her his telephone number????? - The Fat Oracle

I think an important element to this that isn't immediately obvious (if you don't click through) is that this is addressed to Gary Vaynerchuk of Wine Library TV, who has started to use a video as an email auto-responder: http://tv.winelibrary.com/garyvs-... - Mark Trapp

This sniffs of a transparent Lonelygirl15 spoof to promote Gary's book, 'natch. - joshua fouts

Yes, Vaynerchuk's video response to email is significant, and Andrew's dislike of same. I think the video is great, it may be Rocketboom 2.0. - Dave Winer

I've fallen victim to Gary's auto email reply, with his video link, before. lol. - Louie

lol - Adri Munier

BWAHAHAHA!!! I love it. - Aaron deMello

liz, message from gary: "please mail it to 586 Morris Avenue Springfield, New Jersey 07081 marked ATTN GARYV URGENT URGENT URGENT thanks will get back to you in two to three weeks" - Deva Hazarika

lolz loved it! - Triston McIntyre

lol - xero

cuty :) - Marco Sascha Sven Hoppe from twhirl

Bwahahahahaha!!!! - Robert Couture from twhirl

funny... - Tony

the lead up was a little long but it ended with a bang! - Morgan

Liz, it's a great ending. too good. - Sarah Austin

OMG LMAO. LOL - ZOD

I was getting ready for "I'm pregnant" -- but this was good. - MattJhsn

O_O O_O <_< >_> @_@ oh...... my..... - Bwana ☠

She is adorable and that is hilarious! The Triscuit actually makes it funnier. - Dave Tremel

She hasn't done any videos since :( - Pat Hawks

Garyvee is a lucky guy. - Dave Winer

They insist on making you wait for them to make the full pot instead of offering you a free press coffee, or an americano. It's poor service. - Justin Whitaker

Are ya bein pissy just to say somethin pissy? - John McElhenney

My issue with Starbucks is the damage they are doing to the waste system. Whenever I order a douple espresso and say, "no lid" please, they say "We have to give you a lid". Then I say "I dont want one, its thick nasty PVC and Im just ganna throw in that trash can right there so please dont give me one", to which they reply "Im sorry, we HAVE to, here you go, have a nice day". And the... more... - Andrew Baron

Andrew, I think it's because of the McDonalds Coffee Lawsuit http://www.vanosteen.com/mcdonal... - AJ Batac (/-_-)

Andrew: I've never noticed the paper-cup-first thing. I'll have to pay attention to that. This kind of thing deserves a good mocking. - Ha3rvey (F please!)

gee, two minutes. you sound like a spoiled brat - Cee Bee

And when they filled your cup, they did so with Starbucks coffee and all its pretentious, overpriced nastiness. - Dave Roth

Lets all get together and take 'em down right now, whattaya say!? - Andrew Baron

hey, what about Dunkin Donuts? At least you have 'em on the mainland! - Bill Sodeman

What? Starbucks has started serving coffee? I thought it was warm dishwater. :-) - Jeremy Brooks

Starbucks Coffee always has a burnt taste to it. - Henry DeBardeleben from twhirl

@Bill Sodeman DD coffee is awful, bitter, and only drinkable with copious amounts of sugar and cream. I prefer to make my own coffee, but when out, Starbucks is about all there is. Not many indie coffee houses near where I work. - Justin Whitaker

has anyone had coffee from the new clover machines (supposedly showing up in various starbucks)? http://www.wired.com/gadgets... - Sarah Perez

the problem I have with Starbucks is that what I want is a simple cup of coffee. I want it as big as it comes, and I don't need room for milk. I don't want a breakfast sandwich, I don't want a smoothie, I don't want a CD. Don't look at me like I am from another planet, you are a god-d*mn coffee shop. - Justin Whitaker

Hey all... just buy coffee beans and make your own coffee... it's better... cheaper... and better for the environment. Easy for me I guess... I work from home about 50% of the time. - Adrian Nadeau

actually, it sounds like you need to back off the coffee - Narendra

I smell "Dell Sucks" all over again. how long until we meet BrandonAtSbux via Twitter - Adam

Buy a Cuisinart grind 'n' brew, a pound a week of good beans, and a Stainless King 40oz Thermos. It's freedom, I tell you. - FFing Enigma

i think facebook should start getting serious ABOUT playing games. - Zee.

There's a potentially killer revenue source there. - Zee.

Facebook should get serious about making some money, in whatever way possible, because their burn rate is going to send them to the scrap heap before too long if they don't. - Jason Carreira

@Jason Carreira - Facebook doesn't lose money, except for additional investments they make. If there were problems ahead, which clearly aren't, they could go the MySpace-route and stop developing the site. (Ok, MySpace woke up since Facebook started the its platform. But before that, they only did maintenance.) - sebmos

Do you have a link that says they don't lose money? Last I heard they were borrowing an additional $100 million to buy more hardware, and the Microsoft ad revenue has been disappointing. I'd be glad to be wrong because I think the impending collapse of FB will be a bubble-bursting event for Web 2.0... - Jason Carreira

If Facebook wants to be a business utility it must change to serve people like Buzz Bruggeman, CEO of ActiveWords. He has 12,000 contacts in Outlook. He can't move them to FB. So it remains a place to play games and not do real business. - Robert Scoble

@Zee - You totally hit that nail. I *tried* to use FB for serious stuff ... it didn't work. Now I just play Arrested Development trivia on there. Works for me. - Laura Norvig

It strikes me as a little ridiculous to see "[service] must change to serve [insert extreme edge case here]". Plenty of people are, obviously, not that guy, and don't need that capacity/capability. Would it be nice to be able to accommodate every edge case? Sure. Practical and necessary, right now, in the grand scheme of things? Not so much. - abacab

Yeah, unfortunately "revenue" is an edge case in Web 2.0 - Jason Carreira

Although my tweet was silly, I got between 5 and 10 e-mails telling me it was down. I've never made a lot of noise about FriendFeed having 100% uptime, as others have. I expect some sites will have momentary outages, and today's wasn't the first time FriendFeed has done it. Luckily, it all happened when we were asleep. Carry on. :-) - Louis Gray

Agreed... to be expected once in awhile... hopefully not often is all we can ask. Although my life just carries on when Twitter or FF are down. "Carry on" - Adrian Nadeau

Agreed - Aaron Myers

Thanks for fixing it anyway, @Louis_Gray - ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ

Uptime has not been a big thing with me either. Look at Twitter. Continued growth and the return of the big users despite its repeated outages. - Hutch Carpenter

I happened to wake up in the middle of the night and notice it. If nothing else, it raised the question "what should one do when FriendFeed is down?" Ironically, I found myself on Twitter. There is a place that reproduces status information from various Web 2.0 services; unfortunately, it's a FriendFeed room and therefore wasn't available. :) - Ontario Emperor

scoble - jeneane sessum

jeneane: it is my fault. I slept right through the outage. - Robert Scoble

there was an outage? - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

+1 for Blame Scoble. It's been a while since we blamed him for something :) - Mike Doeff

So no one can design a logo of your head being lifted by little birds...or anything like that? - Mike Lewis

Was the outage planned and if it was not planned will we have disclosure of it's cause, remedy and prevention? - Bob Gannon

I have a screen capture of Techcrunch crashed, as they seem to yell the loudest when other sites crash. - Andrew Leyden

"Luckily, it all happened when we were asleep" nice little US-centric view there. ;) - Marcel Weiß

Paul discussed the outage here: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Louis Gray

LOL - Shey

@marcel weiss I have American friends who don't believe in GMT+8 - Bret Treasure

Liar! You cannot hide the truth from the masses! We will be heard! - Rob Diana

no but you could have been-hahaha - Arne-Per

LOL, oh yeah it affected us ;-P - Bee

Huh?. What public opinion dude?. - Josue Salazar

That's funny -- I didn't get any calls or emails, though I did get about 100 sms alerts from our monitoring system, which were eventually annoying enough to wake up April, who then woke me up (who then called Sanjeev...). - Paul Buchheit

Darn. Winer beat me to it. http://twellow.com/ - David Petherick from twhirl

i don't get why it fails a search for 'toeman'... needs fixing! - Jeremy Toeman

Bad home page design, my gut reaction was I landed on a parked domain - Bob Ngu from twhirl

@Bob Ngu I thought the same thing when I was the homepage too, but it is a very useful site - Richard Kannegieser from twhirl

Awesome! Twitterpacks, with actual navigatiion and architecture. (I sure hope it doesn't become another tool for spam followers.) - Ian Wilker from twhirl

yes and Ian, there is a nonprofit section in particular, though you probably know all those folks already. - Marshall Kirkpatrick

Caught Twellow back in June on EverythingTwitter http://everythingtwitter.com/2008... - Chris Miller

Very cool, found lots of new people - Kol Tregaskes

Yes twellow is really cool. Also, Twitter makes for a far more interesting cut from the population than Linkedin. Great for recruiting self-actualizing people! - Meryn Stol

What we need next is a Plurk directory. - Meryn Stol

great concept - their design needs some serious help though! - Morgan

Is anyone actually claiming their profiles on Twellow? - a runcible MiniMage

amen - Mark Dykeman

Great post Steve... some great points in there. Thanks. - Adrian Nadeau

Awesome. - Raoul Pop

Thanks a lot guys. I''m really interested in seeing who manages to clear this hump, and what that product will look like. - Steve Spalding

I hear ya Steve, we have been banging our heads off the wall with these issues for years now :) My head is starting to hurt! lol - Adrian Nadeau

"Writing about technology on the web is like building a Starbucks in Manhattan — it seems like a great idea until you look across the street." Nice. :) - Nathaniel Payne

Fabulous post, Steve. It's a message we've brought up ad nauseum on The Guidewire but the irony is, of course, that the mainstream isn't reading either one of our blogs. In an interview on 60 Minutes this weekend, Bruce Springsteen said something I can't get out of my head. "You have to make an audience care about your obsessions." I personally haven't figured out how to do that yet, but am somewhat comforted that none of us in the technosphere have. - Carla Thompson

I think a large part of it is making our obsessions more palatable. We are all saturated in information day in and day out, so we develop solutions to the problems that arise from that, "if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail." The result is that the best ideas I ever hear using social tech come from people who have just been introduced to it. - Steve Spalding

@Nate who knows, so many of them are shutting down it might not be such a bad plan afterall. ;) - Steve Spalding

Seth needs to reread his book Meatball Sunday! Is he pushing a pyramid skim? "Buy my book to join my tribe!" John Chow! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Wrong thread, Igor. ;) - Nathaniel Payne

Sorry! ;-) - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Word. - Eric Rice

Great post. Mainstream is much bigger. Popular articles on FriendFeed can't usually get anywhere on Digg. - Mitchell Tsai

Even Digg is only a larger subset of "not mainstream." It has a lot of traffic, but I think sites like Drudge Report, DailyKos and Perez Hilton have orders of magnitude more -awareness-. We are very good at rallying numbers, but very bad at getting people to care. - Steve Spalding

Leverage: Do you need to reach everyone though? What about concentrating on movers & shakers (or whichever group interests you)? - Mitchell Tsai

You definitely don't need to reach everyone. The problem we suffer from is that movers and shakers are generally unwilling to -buy- the services that are being offered to them. I am less concerned with saturating mainstream markets than I am in creating services that meet the -needs- of mainstream markets (an enterprise software company is way more likely to be profitable than even the most popular social app) - Steve Spalding

Well done.. - Dave Peck

I don't view the "law of large numbers" as a "dirty little secret". I agree with you across the board though which is why I've never wasted any time chasing Digg or Stumble traffic. We just got a stable link from Drudge to TVbytheNumbers -- no branding, just "TV Ratings" (which makes a lot of sense for a few reasons). We didn't ask (never have communicated w/Drudge). It's not as much... more... - Robert Seidman

Great post. congrats - jonathan

Steve: How about concentrating just on "influencers" (not big movers & shakers, but people who are heavy networkers)? There was a marketing book (forget name) which said that "Old money" tends to hide info - my favorite hairdresser, vacation spot, etc..., but some types of "New money" are the guys who share their favorite tips around the golf club - cool car I got, great vacation spot, neat electronic toy, good business connection spot. - Mitchell Tsai

Targeted marketing. My favorite recent books are "Buzzmarketing" - Mark Hughes, 2008 http://amazon.com/Buzzmar... "Meatball Sundae" - Seth Godin, 2007 http://amazon.com/Meatbal... I think the quote comes from one of these, but not sure. - Mitchell Tsai

brilliant - Yvon Bayonne

Excellent post Steve, for a minute there I thought it had to do with fraud. - Mike Fruchter

Great points. In the past few years of writing my blog, I figured out that nobody cares about what I think is cool. But when I solve problems that plague others, ones which I personally might brush off or consider trivial, such as how to recover a lost password or use a spreadsheet to budget your money, the traffic pours in. - Tom Harrison

Mitchell, that's another good point. Especially when growing a product, but many times you are going to have to move past initial influencers to scale your income. - Steve Spalding

Steve: I think the cool web 2.0 idea is to have the *influencers* be part of your marketing team. It's a more-refined and friendly version of MLM. I'd rather have 100 other people do my selling, than try to sell everyone myself. - Mitchell Tsai

Good post Steve. I wrote something about this phenomenon this morning. The problem is both a lack of creativity on the entrepreneur side (lets use the free model everyone else uses in web 2.0) and on the demand side. The mainstream user doesn't need services the early adopter crowd over here gets all crazy about (including Friendfeed). It doesn't solve a problem, address a need, so people won't pay for it. It's dead simple really. Create something that produces user value, and the user will be happy to pay - Alexander van Elsas

fantastic article. So many good points and analogies. - Chieze Okoye

@Alexander Right on, and there are a bunch of problems out there just like that. While there were a lot of problems with the pre-bubble days, the one thing they did well was recognize how the web could help with real, brick and mortar problems. - Steve Spalding

http://www.patientslikeme.com/ is a good example of a company doing something useful, I think. - Meryn Stol

Very cool Meryn, thanks for passing this along. This is exactly the sort of application that made the web so interesting for me. - Steve Spalding

I loved this article. I was discussing Knol and data portability with a friend of mine last week and he informed me that he barely even uses facebook. This is both a challenge an an opportunity. The future lies with applications that are both ubiquitous and dead simple while adding real value to the lives of it's users. Facebook came close but the abundance of applications was both a... more... - Derick Valadao

Interesting concept, comparing effort to usage. How easy is it for someone to just "pick up" something like Friendfeed. I'd dare say it's harder than we might think. - Steve Spalding

he made a huge impression on me when I met him and that was before he knew he was going to die. There are sadder stories happening under our noses, by the way. A 32-year-old founding developer at iLike needs a bone-marrow transplant. - Robert Scoble

I've been following Randy's story and his bravery. I hadn't heard the news. My dad died of pancreatic cancer when I was 6. Because Randy was so gifted in his words and so passionate in his presence, he raised awareness on how little has been done, how little has been spent on this most ravaging of cancers. Thank you Randy. I'm so sad. - jeneane sessum

it's very unfortunate. But the last lecture is worth the 1 hour and 16 minutes. - Imran Hussain from twhirl

I posted about Randy in June - http://allied.blogspot.com/2008.... Although he is best known as an inspiration and for his Carnegie Mellon talk, the testimony he gave in Washington was a great gift to anyone who has lost a loved one to pancreatic cancer. http://www.youtube.com/watch.... Please give to http://www.pancan.com or http://www.lustgarten.org/ in Randy's memory. - jeneane sessum

http://www.cmu.edu/giving... - jeneane sessum

wasn't Jobs treated for this same form of cancer? - Imran Hussain from twhirl

Try not to be sad for Randy Pausch. He was more enlightened than most of us. As the Buddha said, death is not feared by one who lived wisely. I think Randy himself definitely was anguished at times about the 'why' of it but what he did different from the most of us was to strive to let it go and instead be 'aware' and awake in the present and for the present. I'm definitely going to try to do the same - my inspiration from him is my tribute to him. - The Fat Oracle

Kamath thanks. same to you Gregory - Jeremiah Owyang

I don't think one person's ill health is any more sad than another's, Scoble. - Shawn Farner

I'd want to rephrase that Shawn, as no person's ill health can be more sad then someone's death - Imran Hussain

He was lucky in that he thought to do this before he died. Most of us leave the world without thinking about what we'd like to say to others much less actually saying it. One day, we're just gone. I lost so many friends from AIDS that I planned out my own funeral service a long time ago (I probably need to update it) but I really need to write out some letters to family & friends. I'd hate for my loved ones last thought of me to be whatever I last happen to say to them. - Liz

That's what I meant to say, Imran. Thanks :) - Shawn Farner

John Piper, facing surgery for prostate cancer, wrote that "[t]he aim of God in your cancer (among a thousand other good things) is to knock props out from under our hearts so that we rely utterly on him." This is from his article "Don't Waste Your Cancer" (http://is.gd/14PW). Randy Pausch didn't waste his. - Larry Huffman

You're welcome Shawn. BTW I really can't imagine to be delivering a lectue like that and be that fit like Randy in his last lecture video. - Imran Hussain from feedalizr

Saw that video for the first time earlier today too, and was inspired by his courage and humility. His message was that we could all make more of our lives if we so wished. - Sally Church

wonderful raconteur. we all need to act more like Randy. I'm inspired, are you? - Sam Levin

I think it might, I'm not much of a tech-savvy guy, and it's only recently that I've found the conversations accessible enough that I can jump in. Maybe the "people factor" has now outweighed the "tech factor" in my mind... - Danny Gregory

@Jared that's an add-on application, correct? I'm not sure it's an officially supported one. - Paul Whitaker

No, none of Friendfeed, Twitter, Facebook, MySpace, etc. are truly mainstream, I would argue. - wrecks

Probably not. Friendfeed for masses would be called Facebook's or another social networks Activity stream. - doruk tokçabalaban

@Paul you're right: not supported by FB - Thierry R. Andriamirado

I think it's a feature set more than an application. It's a nice app right now for us early adopters, but it will go mainstream as features added to existing bigger networks. - Jason Goldberg

My bet: no way FriendFeed will go mainstream in its current form. But I imagine that what we see now is not FriendFeed's endgame by any means. My take: it's all about the data they're collecting. They've got implicit data (our clicks) and explicit data (our shares, likes, and comments). Get enough of that, and there are all sorts of wonderful things you can do. Comments, Paul? - Dan Kaplan

I access FF primarily through FB. For me, mainstream adoption boils down to two things - ease of use and ease of access. PS: I had no idea this conversation was going on until I checked my referrer list. Yikes! I need to get better at tracking conversations around the net. - MiaD

I think it got quite a big push now that Twitter self destructed the followers. Just going down is one thing, but going down and taking acct info (such as who follows who) with you is quite another. I think we are now seeing the beginning of the end of twitter (which is great for FF). - Aaron Krug

To some extent, I think it already is. Lots of 'non-techies' already on board - Charlie Anzman

I see FF as a critical component of an open social web - i.e. it _is_ the equivalent of the FB activity stream - except that the activities FF tracks are those happening on independent sites, rather than the walled garden of FB. To me that means that FriendFeed's success is dependent on there being a decent ecosystem of independent social sites out there. - Robin Barooah

FF isn't Facebook and Facebook isnt FF. Different audiences and different purposes. -

all my student friends still live on FB - Phillip Jeffrey

Maybe they are all friendfeeders and they like the new look since it's so close? - Adrian Nadeau

That is the exact question I asked...with a Big WHY? - Scot Duke

is 1000 people really a lot of people? - Adrian Nadeau

Jeremy: if I could rank comments here, I totally would have bumped yours up! - mark

Thanks a lot, appreciate the help - Svetlana Gladkova

plus 1 digg - Big fan of Meebo. - Adrian Nadeau

++1 Shey !! - Peter Dawson

Shey, you too, are one classy man! - Mona Nomura

A few minutes in real life society will likely render a few more experts! - David Muir

@Louis I know :). @Mona/Peter Thanks :) - Shey

We can work on our individual lives and get those in order. But what about the bigger picture? - Mark Dykeman

I heard that - Dave Martin

Amen to that Shey. - Larry Kless from twhirl

@MarkD We need learn to empathize and try to understand our differences. Then the bigger picture will become clearer. - Shey

X2 - clarke thomas

+ bump - Sarah Perez

You couldnt have said it better - 93% of communication is body language :) - Mrinal Desai

@Sarah :) - Shey

Wait, smiley's don't count as body language?? ;) - felix

lol@felix It's the best I can do from a keyboard! - Shey

Shey, I don't agree. I find that many people aren't even aware of social media and are missing out. Also social media and real life interactions are not mutually exclusive. - Alan Le

@Alan I think the point Shey's making is that some people in the "Social Media World" (I call them "Tech-Nerds" .. :D) are so engrossed in Social Media that they become ignorant of the REAL Social World -- becoming hopelessly ignorant of the REAL ramifications of their actions. - Jasmin Smith

@Jasmin +100 points. - Shey

everybody + a zillion points - Nathan Rein

Re. Soc Media vs RW - You learn best by doing imho? Observation only takes one so far. - Mathew A. Koeneker

@Matthew I think the happy ending is "doing", i.e. a change in how we behave with and relate to one another. But if you don't take a step back and look outside your little bubble -- you get a pretty narrow-minded view. - Shey

A lot of valid points that I agree with. - Adrian Nadeau

I loved the post. Friendfeed is adding a lot of exposure to our digital identity. Do you feel there is a need for a new social netiquette? I.e don't post your "I have a new blog post: domain.com/post " on twitter if you already linked friendfeed to your twitter account AND to your blog? I would love to hear your opinions about that - delbo

Just noticed the same. When I started blogging I always asked myself: Should I post this story on my blog or try to sell it to a magazine or newspaper. Now it's increasingly the question if I should blog it or post it to Twitter or FriendFeed. - Benedikt Koehler

And what about non native english speakers (like me). I blog, twit and post in friendfeed both on italian and english language. is that annoying for non-italian speakers ? I often post the same news on my italian language blog (in italian) and on my english language blog (in english). they are both linked on friendfeed. Is that correct? Is that annoying? I don't have the answers... - delbo

Marcello, it is not annoying, it is just shows a need for filtering for languages. People will ignore things that they cannot read, so let them filter it. - Rob Diana

Rise of rapid yet drastic increment of the socialization on the web might be causing this confusion, I guess. "Time is a cure." - Kenichi Matsumoto

@Kenichi: Will there be a time when we can socialize on the web without having to take care of different languages? Going beyond Babel in social networking? - Benedikt Koehler

benedikt, I made a confusion here. sorry! I meant to comment on the original post. btw, I'm having the same problem as Marcello pointed out above. I'm a Japanese. - Kenichi Matsumoto

Unless your blog is quite unsuccessful, or you've got an enormous social media following, I'm not sure how this works. 20 times the people will read one of my blog posts vice a Tweat or FF blurb. And, of course, I can actually develop a coherent thought (theoretically) in a blog post. And monetize it. - James Joyner

I think I understand Kenichi. I just wrote a post about the points I see in this thread. http://marcello.delbono.eu/2008... Is it correct to link my blog post on this thread? I wrote it on my blog since I have more space there, and I can also use images and formatting. But is this kind of cross-referencing correct? Is it noising? Is it value adding? ... - delbo

Excellent post, Louis. Your brain is in no way suffering from sleep deprivation! - Carla Thompson

@Carla This was a guest post by Jesse Stay - Shey

less is more w/blogging, engagment is better then content :)- - Peter Dawson

Oh oops. Apologies Jesse! Apparently *my* brain is suffering. - Carla Thompson

Jesse did a great job with this post. It's why I invited him. - Louis Gray

I agree with you. I've noticed bloggers slowing down myself. C' mon people, I need YOUR feed! - Matt Browne

Bingo! My brain is rewired to think in 140 character bursts. Blogging is beyond me now. - Michael Markman

Marcello, I commented on your feed. http://ub0.cc/5Y/d - Kenichi Matsumoto

:) - delbo

Thoughtful post. I wish I could whip up a post in 30 minutes flat. - kamla bhatt

Louis - I thought you said, "that's why I invented him" below. lol! ;-) Thanks for your kind words though. - Jesse Stay

Marcello I don't think there are enough FriendFeed users yet to completely forgo Twitter as an additional platform for sharing content. I still have twice the friends on Twitter as I do FriendFeed. - Jesse Stay

Marcello I think the only standard is that you be yourself - if you get criticized, certainly be courteous, but don't worry too much about any set "rules". You'll be fine. :-) - Jesse Stay

Totally agree! I wish Internet would crash and we would go back to real Life! - Igor The Troll יִצְחָק

Colin - Think you're definitely going to get different answers from different 'generations' but it's really a personal time management thing. Some do it. Some don't (or in some cases can't). - Charlie Anzman

Good question... and I'm not really sure what the answer is to that. I think today, it's important to get away from all the "noise" sometimes of technology. I am not a blackberry/iphone person for that reason alone. - Adrian Nadeau

words like "happier" and "better" are interesting to use in this context. studies have shown that Americans "happiness" has dropped steadily since the post-WW2 era. then again, people didn't have "happiness" as a high priority in life relative to today (hence staggering divorce rates). i think of computer/internet use more like a "hobby" than anything else, a new way to spend free time. lot less whittling than before... - Jeremy Toeman

Charlie - those differences are what I'm interested in and the perceptions we have of our younger days. - Colin Walker from fftogo

All I know is that every job I've had in the last decade - most of which have made me happy - would have been either impossible or just much harder without the web and related tech. I also think it quite likely that I would have been a much happier kid in a web-connected world. - Didi Chanoch

Things may be different, but I'm not sure how we can measure the effect technology has had on that. There are too many factors - Shey

No, No and No. But now I'm there faster! - Toby Graham

Looking back, I'd have to say, that my stress was pretty balanced (mostly high) throughout my 'career'. Different times, different stresses. I do now make it a point to break from the electronics daily and at least once a week for a day entirely. That just works for me. Sure others are different. - Charlie Anzman

@Shey - agreed that there are way too many factors at play and direct comparisons are virtually impossible. It is the perception we have that is interesting though. - Colin Walker from fftogo

I would say technology has made our lives/jobs 10x easier, but when things get easier and faster, more is expected. So the demand for things will always outweigh the ability to get them done. So, I think the same level of stress will always exist. - David Cook

Computers in and of themselves don't add to my stress. When I started working at Hecht's Department Store in 1990, we had to fax things. Calculators were used instead of spreadsheets. Computers came in, didn't stress me out. I loved them. The advent of the Blackberry is where the stress kicked in. But that was self-induced. There was stress if I didn't stay up-to-date, but really I could have turned it off. Didn't want to. - Hutch Carpenter

yes & yes. but we were also oblivious to other cultures, war zones, etc. we learned of the world from national geographic. because of our cluelessness, we were less stressed on work, and more on who's going to bomb us(psych warfare, instigated by our own governments)...since the facsimile, we've changed our definition of time to get things done. instead of plotting it out and doing it methodical, we're pressured to cut corners to get it done quicker, else we'll lose the advantage. - clarke thomas

Keep 'em coming guys. This is really interesting and backs up a few things I was working on for a post. - Colin Walker from fftogo

I personally don't think the computer is just a tool, or that it's simply different. The computer is a massive distraction. It's useful, yes, but sites like YouTube and FriendFeed suck up huge amounts of time, and don't improve our quality of life the way building a cabinet or planting a garden do. Sure, we can learn things on the internet, but a large percentage of it is trivial. Compare that to the same amount of time spent on real-world projects. - Brent Newhall

Agree with some of the others - happiness to me is completely independent of things like computers or the internet. I can't imagine being happy in a world where you farmed for 18 hours a day, went to sleep, woke up and did it all over again into perpetuity just to survive and yet there were certainly people back then who were happy. I love people and i love ideas - computers, the internet and other communication devices vastly increase my access to both of those things but don't necessarily make me happy - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

I actually think that constant computer and net access has probably had an overall damaging effect on my happiness. I think it distracts me from other activities and interactions that require more effort, but that are more satisfying in the end. I'm not blaming anyone but myself, but i don't think it's good for me. - Nathan Rein

Marco - could a lot of it be what we become accustomed to? If we substitute happy for content in that scenario then having the stability in life could breed contentment because the farmer knew nothing else. Now, we are so exposed to the lives of others (especially those better off than us) that we are perpetually unhappy with our lot. - Colin Walker from fftogo

Nathan - the perfect paradox: we accept that it's probably bad but become addicted anyway. Isn't that just always the case? - Colin Walker from fftogo

indeed. I do think it's almost like an addiction for me. It's the feeling of always having some fascinating nugget of information just around the corner, if I just keep clicking. - Nathan Rein

The most profound technological shift I experienced in my lifetime was the cellphone. As a teenager I would have to 'wait by the phone' and then go out to meet people who might be an hour away by public transport with no way to rearrange things if they didn't work out. When I started college I got a pager, and a year later I had a cellphone. Nothing else has changed the rhythm of my life so much. - Robin Barooah

I know my life would be completely different without computers and the internet. I probably wouldn't have as much income (I'm a developer by trade), wouldn't have met my husband (we met on a telnet BBS), and wouldn't have met a lot of the friends I've made in places I've never been before who are a positive part of my life. I also probably wouldn't have had the opportunity to travel out of the country (a consequence of my job) which has made me happier and more informed. I can't compare to life without... - Lindsay

Financial transactions were onerous before the web. I remember actually having to mail in forms to buy/sell mutual funds. *shudder* - Morton Fox

@colin - good question. I have to wonder if there isn't much difference to being exposed to those who are better off than us online and living in feudal times where you kill yourself all day for just enough to ensure your family's survival only to go home each night and see the lights flickering and the laughter echoing from the lord of the land's home. - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

I had better posture before I started spending all day on computers. Also, l didn't need spectacles, rose-tinted or otherwise. - Steve Lynch from Alert Thingy

We're more stressed out, I think. And more blind, but that's a whole other discussion ... - ::Kristen::

I remember reading about a survey that suggested that as more people had access to more mass media, their overall self-reported level of happiness went down. This was mostly about TV, but I wonder if there's any parallels with Internet use - Nathan Rein

The grass is always greener. If you weren't here you would be thinking this was better. - Geoff Schultz {TF}

People still have the ability to go to the movies (instead of downloading from iTunes, renting from Netflix), they still have the ability to go bowling at a bowling alley (instead of Wii bowling), they can still order pizza over the phone, pay bills by putting a paper check in the mail, watch the CBS Evening News, etc. etc. To the extent they *don't* do this, it's probably because the new way makes them happier. - Karim

Drink tap water -- fear of poisoning much reduced. - Brian Sullivan

Yessss - CJ

glug glug - Andrew Smith

lol all the time! - Emmanuel Pozo

Yes. And I agree with @briansullivan but also because it's less wasteful. There is generally no benefit to bottled water, only plastic waste and money spent. - ·[▪_▪]·

I do not agree with Brian Sullivan(?) There has been poisin reports of nuts throwing it into the water. But thats just some of the cleanest water in the U.S. - Sweyn Venderbush from fftogo

Penn and Teller did a whole show about this on Showtime. Tap water is regulated by thousands of EPA agents. Bottled, FDA one guy. - Bob Hires

Just got back from camping in Italy - they have taps all over the place in towns to get water. Why don't more countries do this? - Rich

Bottled water costs more than gasoline. That's a bit screwed up... - Andrew Leyden

yes.. yes I do.. don't drink it man! - JADonnelly

for sure, and drink it only if you are in the desert with no other water source to choose from. Drinker beware! - Jeremy Campbell from twhirl

Yes. I do. But I go ahead and drink it. Beat back the dark gremlins in your head Kevin! - AJ Kohn

yes in india, my face turned white and the host noticed. He then shouted something to the "boy" standing in the corner and the water bottles in the room were replaced with ones that went 'click' - Colin Britton from twhirl

Do what The Queen does, use a British Berkefeld water filter. It can filter out just about anything evil. http://www.jamesfilter.com/ - klaatu

Which PR firm was this? And do you want me to send Scoble my first review of Social Median? I brought it up when we had dinner. :-) - Louis Gray

This is very telling, but concerning as well. Nothing against Robert Scoble, but should one man hold that much power in technology? - Rob Diana

plus michael arrington... - Pokai

I agree Rob. Nothing against Robert but he could have a personal bias in the space and it could hurt that product etc. - Adrian Nadeau

Rob Diana: It actually bothered me a bit. Bother in the sense of how strange a comment it is. - Jason Goldberg

Louis, Rob et al: we actually weren't discussing how to pitch socialmedian when this came up, it was actually a broader discussion around the state of social media, pr, and the news biz. They are trying to find/create the scoble equivalents now for other industries. - Jason Goldberg

Jason: I don't think this is true. Louis, we should join forces. Maybe someday we'd be as powerful as Walt Mossberg. :-) - Robert Scoble

Jason Goldberg: It does bother me also.. one person's opinion shouldn't decide your products fate... - Adrian Nadeau

Jason: truth be told, it bothers me a bit too, because there are hundreds of people who can make a product successful. I've never talked about Evernote before today and they had 30,000 new customers sign up this weekend. - Robert Scoble

TURKISH FF COMMUNITY: PLEASE READ THIS! ; ) ESPECIALLY WEBRAZZI.COM AUTHOR 'ARDA KUTSAL'. : )) - Erhan Erdoğan

perception is surely part of the reality and vice versa. broader point is that old media is still very much trying to figure out the new world. old world they had speed dial into the 3-5 guys who mattered who were on long lead time deadlines. today they have scoble's and arrington's and mashable's etc. - Jason Goldberg

Chris Baskind: Definitely not, good point. - Adrian Nadeau

@Adrian, one thing I have never seen is Scoble have a bias besides hot new technology. - Rob Diana

Scoble's not to blame -- blame Canada. Scoble has power because people listen to him. People listen to him because he is often right, speaks from the heart. - Brian Sullivan

Plus, lots of things I've picked as hot have turned out to be failures, or, at least, not home runs. - Robert Scoble

No - what they really should be looking at is what us FF'ers think about their product. Let all of us play with it and we'll give our aggregate opinion. Scobez is usually right on the money, but sometimes even he can miss a diamond in the rough... - iTad

Robert: they're probably reading this too :) lol - Jason Goldberg

Is that like the Butterfly Effect? - Dayngr

@Rob Diana That's good to know. - Adrian Nadeau

Since I have the Scoble effect, go sign up for Evernote. Damn, that's cool. Take a picture of something with text in it and it recognizes the text and lets you search for it. I want to put all my business cards into this! - Robert Scoble

I agree, if you have a consumer product you need the Scoblizer! - Nope Not Listed Here

Scoble: what's most interesting is that it goes to show that even in the new world, content is king. It's not just that you have a following, it's that you have created the content which galvanizes the following and keeps them following. - Jason Goldberg

I remember experiencing this phemonenon first hand: I received 20-30 Twitter follows in one day. What had happened? I checked Seesmic and found that @scobelizer had mentioned my name. I had been Scobled. - Steve Lynch

Jason: the content comes from getting access, which I greatly appreciate everyone here for connecting me to interesting people and interesting companies. - Robert Scoble

Robert wont write about me 'cause i was a bitch about video comments. (that's me trying to be sarcastic robert, and probably landing flat). ;-) - Jason Goldberg

Jason: I don't even remember you doing that. What you want me to see of yours? - Robert Scoble

and btw. FriendFeed rocks with the pace of this discussion. Fantastic. - Jason Goldberg

Robert (and anyone/everyone else for that matter). We're less than 2 weeks from going public with http://www.socialmedian.com. Been in private invite only alpha since April. You can use invite code = nearlybeta to check it out before release. - Jason Goldberg

Scoble is the reason I joined Facebook and the reason I told all my friends they HAD to get an account. He's also the reason I'm here (on FF) as well - but I can't convince a single friend to climb aboard - none of them trust me now. - James Hull

BTW. as pat of this conversation with said PR agency execs, we also had an interesting discussion around finding the scoble's of politics, sports, etc. And especially the scoble's of India, UK, china, etc. - Jason Goldberg

Related, there's an interesting post on FF today about listing who the most "popular" friends are to follow. I don't understand what the harm there is? Isn't part of the fun/value of this following the Newsmakers? We just go ahead an put a link on the homepage to the most popular Newsmakers on socialmedian. http://www.socialmedian.com/users... - Jason Goldberg

what would be cool, would be to see something similar to the soon-to-be released study by the University of Miami and USC that correlates a company’s stock performance with reviews of its products by Walt Mossberg of the WSJ (http://bit.ly/24VfTx), but Scoble v Arrington V Mossberg. kind of apples and oranges, but still fun - Christian Anderson

would be fun to see a scoble, arrington, mashable, etc. post and adhere to a not private pitch policy for a few weeks and see how it goes. All pitches must be in public on a blog post, FF, or tweet. Whadya think? - Jason Goldberg

Scoble has many followers and is an incredible channel to the tech-savvy, early adopter audience, but he only covers topics he considers to be cool and interesting. Nothing wrong with that, but there are still a lot of important tech issues and product areas that Scoble does not cover. - wrecks

wrecks: yup, the industry is bigger than any one person now. It's why I still recommend reading http://www.techmeme.com and http://news.google.com and participating in FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble

What Robert has that the PR people crave is "Trust Equity", built over time. Same with Mossberg. Readers believe they will give straight appraisals of products and services and not be swayed by spin/swag. - Sprague D

BTW. I would love anyone to write their review of socialmedian on FriendFeed so we can all publicly discuss it. Tell everyone what you like and don't like. Hell, give us hell even. Better the feedback the more we can learn and try to make it better. - Jason Goldberg

The beauty of the Scoble effect is that even your pitch is broadcast to a huge user group, especially if he responds, all those followers do to. - Jason Kintzler

By the way Jason, I'm planning to write about SocialMedian's PR implications on PitchEngine...Stay Tuned! - Jason Kintzler

It does take while to get over the learning curve. I use it everyday. I really enjoy the morning daily digest that gets emailed to you in the AM before you get your day going. - Adrian Nadeau

I use it pretty much everyday. I don't use any of the advanced features, but I've found in combination with a more traditional to-do list -- being able to email myself reminders is fantastic. - Steve Spalding

I was deeply involved with Sandy during my Twitter days. Direct messaging Sandy my "stuff" was very handy. I also like the daily digest reminders. Sadly, I haven't seen her for our weekly meeting the past couple of weeks. - Paul Reynolds

I've found that some weeks I let Sandy take a vacation, re-center herself a bit. On those weeks the cow just seems more appropriate for my workflow. When Sandy really earns her salary are those weeks where I have a lot of mid-term goal planning, things I need to remind myself to do 4-5 days down the line. I hate putting that stuff on my to-do list and Sandy is an excellent alternative. - Steve Spalding

Yeah, I used to use Google Calendar for reminders. But I like how Sandy is a bit more interactive and I always run it through my Email. I live the "Remind me in 2 days" email request :) - Adrian Nadeau

I've been using Sandy since I first saw it on WWD or FSW or some blog like that. It's a great application and I've had a lot of luck with it. Many of my clients think she's a real person which is cool. - Jason Shultz from twhirl

Definitely, I never interact with the web app. I couldn't even tell you what it looks like. For people who don't use Sandy, what are you using to manage your to-do's? - Steve Spalding

I have been using JOTT. Being able to call in your stuff is great...even works with Sandy. - Kreg Steppe from twhirl

Very cool, I haven't had a chance to check that one out but I will now. - Steve Spalding

Jotting to Sandy for todos is indeed very cool. Almost magic, really. Or like really having an assistant. - Ken Kennedy

Once I got used to it, it really was convenient. I bet if I took the time to figure out the more whizz-bang functionality, it could replace the rest of my productivity set. - Steve Spalding

Is there some good documentation on how to get JOTT working with Sandy anywhere? I'm interested... Thanks. - Adrian Nadeau

I just signed up for this earlier this week. I see how it could help but haven't fully immersed myself in it right now, primarily because I'm working on a project that has easily 20 updates everyday and couldn't possibly type them all in. - Daryl Tay

Jott to Sandy is cool. I use it often. If you go to Jott, they have the option to add different services to it. Just pick IWantSandy.com and follow the instructions. You'll get it working in no time. - Jason Shultz from twhirl

I haven't tried out Jott but I definitely will now. Tyler I'm with you. That cow sitting in my Gmail is really great at keeping things at the top of mind, but Sandy is good at keeping my to-do list uncluttered. - Steve Spalding