ok ok ok. I've a few push issues myself, as you know, but nothing that causes more widespread damage than a few missed notifications (all IM apps hang your heads in shame, Boxcar take a bow).
- JSLeFanu
"When Lamya Cammon , a first-grader at Congress Elementary in Milwaukee, was caught playing with her hair, her teacher brought her to the front of the class, cut off one of her braids with a pair of classroom scissors, and threw it in the trash. "She told me to stop playing with it. Then cut it off and sent me back to my desk," Cammon said in an interview with Milwaukee's News 12."
- Shevonne
from Bookmarklet
When I was registering for class as a sophomore, the vice principal was walking the line with a pair of scissors, either offering to cut any guy's hair that was below the collar or sending them home. I told him he wasn't laying a hand on me so I left and registered later. Later that school year, after getting in trouble for some shenanigans in chemistry class, for a punishment he...
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- Akiva Moskovitz
That is just nuts! She needs to be slapped and then fired. And at some point, someone should cut her hair.
- Jill Hurst-Wahl
That teacher would have got her ass beat. Legal or not, I'm quite sure my kids mother would consider that assault on her child and it would be on and poppin.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I don't like thinking about what I would do if I were the parent in this case.
- ha3rvey (doesn't dance)
The American education system is doing a terrific job of preparing young Americans for the America in which they live, one where they have no personal freedoms or autonomy and no access to the right to express themselves or rights set out in the Constitution. In fact, in teaching students the Constitution the education system is perpetrating, imo, the biggest hypocrisy I've ever seen.
- Will Higgins™
What if your boss told you you had to cut your hair or you'd get sacked? Kids->Adults, rights.
- Will Higgins™
That teacher is in for a world of hurt.
- cecily
from iPhone
No doubt, Akiva. The teacher was out of line, but really? As I recall, "freedom of expression" was not the norm when I was in school. If it had been, we would not have accomplished much.
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
from iPhone
My job dictates all sorts of things about my appearance, as do many corporate jobs.
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
from iPhone
My boss can sack me for far less than cutting my hair.
- Mistletoe Glen
What's the reason for that rule, 'Sheen?
- Will Higgins™
If you work in a Disney Park: No moustache allowed (at least it used to be true, not sure today). EDIT: Correction, no facial hair at all until year 2000 at which point it became *only* neatly trimmed moustache.
- Micah Wittman
The reason for our rules is that we are representing the company, and the company wants to project a specific image. That is generally why companies have dress codes, grooming policies, etc.
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
from iPhone
Will, employers do enforce dress codes. It's not some violation of freedom. If you don't like it, suck it up and go get a job that better suits your Flock of Seagulls hairstyle.
- Akiva Moskovitz
The difference is that you guys are adults and can make choices about facial hair, etc. I doubt that a boss would bring you in front of the company and forcibly shave you. This child's mother put a lot of love and work into her daughter's hair; to cut it off crosses a major line and says more about that teacher's inability to manage a single student than it does about the child.
- cecily
from iPhone
Cutting a child's hair as punishment is seriously out of line. How could anyone even *think* to do something like that??
- Kamilah Gill
cecily, right, and I don't mean my comments to construe that I support this (as my first comment should prove). I was just snarking on Will unnecessarily taking this opportunity to utilize an isolated incident as a rationalize to mount his bitter soapbox.
- Akiva Moskovitz
So wrong!! Completely out of line. And, while a lot of people twirl their hair, I wonder if that "teacher" knows that it is a common behavior among girls with ADHD who don't always express the hyperactive part in the same way that boys do. Regardless, no one should get in trouble for twirling his/her hair and cutting a child's hair without permission is way over the line.
- Katy S
Asking the child to go home and cut their hair is fine, schools here do that to keep up their appearance but to cut it themselves is way out of line. No one should be touching anyone, unless you're in Asia (that's another story). My work also gets us to be clean shaven unless you've already got an established beard which must be tidy.
- Andrew Trinh
from IM
cecily: no question that the teacher was wildly out of line. My comments had more to do with Will's passionate, if hyperbolic, decrying of the loss of personal freedom. While cutting off *a braid* was wrong, in the grand scheme of things I don't see that it equates to, say, turning the firehoses on protesters in Birmingham, or even striking misbehaving children (as often happened/happens in schools). I therefore contend that the response in this thread is, by and large, somewhat overwrought.
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
from iPhone
Um, I would say that the fact that the teacher actually gives a crap if her students pay attention or not is kind of a good thing, even if her methods are unorthodox. People grabbing torches and chasing the monster to the lake is kind of the reason we're probably going to see more teachers caring less in the near future. Why bother when this could be the result?
- Noah Belson
This isn't care, it's abuse, Noah. There's a difference.
- Kamilah Gill
I do not see this as a good example of a teacher who "cares"; rather, this is an example of a teacher who has not established control of the class, and has acted inappropriately in lieu of proper discipline.
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
from iPhone
That's true, Kamilah. Though I'm wondering where we're going to draw the line as more and more stories like this crop up. What's next to be considered abuse? Making kids spit out gum? Giving them detention? This time the teacher was in the wrong, but next time she may not be and we're likely to be so gung ho that we completely jump off the deep end (which we humans do so well). Just a thought...
- Noah Belson
Noah - did you see my comment about kids with adhd? Behaviors like hair twirling can actually help them focus on the task at hand. I'm not saying this girl has adhd, but teachers should be aware of this sort of thing. Also, the kid's in 1st grade. She's probably only 6 or 7. If the teacher couldn't handle hair twirling, she probably can't handle other behavior issues that happen at that age.
- Katy S
I'm surprised it took so long for someone to break out the old "slippery slope" ... Thanks for not letting me down, Noah
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
from iPhone
All true, Katy. No question, what the teacher did was wrong.
- Noah Belson
Are teachers even allowed to discipline kids at all anymore? In any way whatsoever?
- Akiva Moskovitz
Bren, I'm not sure which worse, being the guy on the internet who does something cliched, or being the guy who points out the guy who does something cliched. Both are kind of odious, but the latter can't really exist without the former.
- Noah Belson
Detention and making kids spit out gum don't involve touching the offending child. This case here was a violation. Paddling *used* to be okay, but it's not anymore, probably because it could easily be abused. Cutting a kid's hair off has never been okay. How do you think your parent would have felt back when you were a kid if you got a hunk of your hair cut off as punishment by some adult? or how would you feel about this happening to your own child?
- Kamilah Gill
Akiva - Of course they can. Cutting off a child's hair is not discipline, though. It is assault. Having said that, some states (and it all depends on individual state laws and then the local school district regulations ) still permit corporal punishment. I don't agree with that. There are many other ways to discipline children that don't involve assaulting them.
- Katy S
Given what you said and when you said it, it's abundantly clear, yep.
- Noah Belson
Although, I do try to pick my spots. I save my snark for only the most egregious occassions.
- Bren -- Not Grinchy
from iPhone
Actually I respect that, Bren. I try to do the same, though with limited success.
- Noah Belson
Kamilah - Did you know that corporal punishment is legal in Indiana? It is banned in many individual school districts and schools, but the state allows it.
- Katy S
No. Hope Carmel bans it. We need to get out of the frigging dark ages here. This state gets on my nerves regularly.
- Kamilah Gill
I'm pretty sure my former district does now. When I was in elementary school, it didn't, although I do remember when there was a switch from allowing teachers to paddle students to only allowing the principal to do it. I remember in 5th grade there were 3 boys in my science class who were paddled by the teacher at least once a week. You'd think that teacher would notice that his idea of discipline didn't work. If it did, there would not be weekly paddlings of the same kids.
- Katy S
I'd be worried that someone was getting a perverse thrill out of paddling kids, especially in that weekly paddling situation you describe...
- Kamilah Gill
Yeah, me too. Those three were trouble and kept getting into trouble (although they did turn out to be mostly ok adults), but the constant paddling was not effective.
- Katy S
i feel worse for the teacher than for the girl. the teacher should pay the fine and then be given some stress mgmt counseling. and then the US school system should be overhauled. see? so easy. ;)
- edythe
IMO it was highly inappropriate on the teacher's part. First graders are going to fidget. It's not like the kid was doing anything outrageous.
- Andrew C
That was an abusive move on the part of the teacher. Sure, hair grows back, but to cut off the hair of a first grader for fidgeting? Gonna have a lot of bald kids. How about making the class a bit more interesting then... Anyways, if it were my child, I'd turn into a "monster parent" pretty darn quick.
- Rick Cogley
" How about making the class a bit more interesting then" ... I'd probably argue against the assumption that class must be "interesting" - and argue that edutainment has destroyed creativity and self-discipline. Kids now wait to be entertained rather than being creative on their own.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
In Japan, though, teachers' hands are tied so tightly that they can't do anything. My wife is an assistant teacher for the school district for English classes. Says it's completely out of control. Both my wife and I grew up when corporal punishment and other various abuses were considered normal, but now that pendulum has really swung so far to the other side, that teachers can't do or say anything, here in Japan, for fear they'll be sued. And this isn't even a litigious society.
- Rick Cogley
LPH and/or dog P, yeah, maybe my comment was ill-considered. There are indeed a lot of influences that might contribute to a fidgety situation.
- Rick Cogley
I'm one of those people that would normally be in favour of the teacher. Hair grows back, it's not really assault (no bodily HARM done, cutting hair doesn't hurt), and the teacher was trying to maintain order in the class. That being said, this is just idiotic. Kids (and adults, for that matter) play with hair all the time. Was this really something that needed disciplinary action? I'm...
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- FF's Bubba of Arizona
I am, SML. We've been much too lax and haven't contributed to the room in the way that you have of late.
- Derrick
@Derrick you you you.. !!! I will likely be contributing less in the next two weeks as I got sucked into a very stressed out project... and if it's not for the amount of sake consumed I would not have made it to this room so far.. thanks for being here.. :)
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Your point was especially funny (and valid) in times like these when I try to convert more people to Friendfeed -- I had the embarassing need to explain to them that, no, I'm not the only subscriber and poster to this room :P
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
I have this one: http://www.fentek-ind.com/images... Not wireless, but A-Maz-ing for me. No 9-key either. But as far as not getting all crampy it's a god-send. (it's a kinesis)
- SAM
Wireless or a combo pkg is not required, but a nice convenience. Just looking for suggestions for both, keyboard & mouse.
- JA Castillo
Then for keyboard... I strongly recommend the Kinesis... I go with a cheapy dell optical laser mouse... so no bells an whistles there.
- SAM
If you choose to stumble on that, surely you should take responsibility.
- Andrew Trinh
from IM
Generally, I agree with you... I'm not a fan of censorship. But a few things should be neither created nor disseminated in the first place, child pornography being one of them.
- T. Brent, technopeasant
As long as something is created by and for and only involving consenting adults, then other adults should be free to indulge in what they choose.
- Ian May
I can't find it in Google because lidi just means twig in Indonesian. They only seem to sell these in schools and school's out until next year. Btw it's like spaghetti but it's been seasoned with stuff like salt or in this case chilli.
- Andrew Trinh
from IM
These are eating raw, it's like eating those Mamee noodles you can buy to crunch up, add seasoning and eat straight out of the packet. This is also cheap snacks they sell to the kids in Indonesian schools. Rp1,500 for each pack.
- Andrew Trinh
from IM
Noah, it's an image bookmarking service. The only way to get in on it is to be invited and each person gets one invite to pass on.
- Andrew Trinh
Is the chain still going? Because I would love to join the chain...
- Evan Snyder
Hi, I'm from Brazil and I have great photos to post. I need a ffffound invitation! hi.fliper@gmail.com fe.--@hotmail.com
- felipe rocha
-Hello everybody- I'd like to get one invitation to ffffound.com my emailadress: reply (at) home.nl Thanx for the support, Keep up the good works :)
- Reply
Dude, do you see the link up there? If you're going to ask for something, you may want to follow directions or you'll get ignored. Just saying.
- Mona Nomura
I will definitely invite others in the chain as soon as I get invited!!! chuckod@gmail.com
- Charles
im looking for an invitation for really long. the one who invites me also gets one invitation code back. reply to fs-fill@gmx.de please
- Filip Sokolowski
i'd be really happy if i could let the chain go on reply to fs-fill [at] gmx [dot] de
- Filip Sokolowski
looking for an invitation too! any help would be welcome pvonier@gmail.com
- Pascale
Chrome does that for a lot of sites, do a search on say FF and IMDB and Chrome will learn the search query so you can do direct searches from the location bar.
- Andrew Trinh
from iPhone
They're ok. I actually prefer a bit of a tummy over abs.
- Derrick
I'm with Derrick. They're alright, I wouldn't kick them out of bed, but I've seen better. They're a little too overly muscular and generic beefcake. Give me a little more character please. Although, I have to state for the record, I'm an absolute sucker for firemen's pants. Something about those wide utility suspenders and brown turnout pants. mmm.
- veo
Derrick is the worst gay. I can't believe he hadn't already liked this. God.
- Andrizzle Gizzle
Yeah. I know people fawn over Brad Pitt and the likes, but you know who I'm crushing on? Steve Carrell. Make me laugh, and you'll have breakfast in bed for life.
- Derrick
I know I have some matches around here somewhere. Let's see...put all my computers and clothes in the car and park it down the street...move the motorcycles from the side of the house...what about my books and games...oh, nm, too much work, I'll just look at the pictures.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Hey, I've heard from co-worker who tried to wrestle a moving limo that the firefighters in our town are hot, too! (or virtually shameless bump)
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
though on the same pg w/ D for the most part ~ I feel a boing! boing! nonetheless
- sofarsoShawn
I don't see what the big deal is. All of these guys are obviously photoshopped and are on steroids and are child molesters and tax cheats and used car salesmen.....ok, ok, FINE! I admit it. I'm a little bit (just a little) less attractive than these kitten-kicking lowlife bastards.
- Morgan Haley
Looks familiar but, oddly enough, I don't think I've tasted it.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
“After I came to America, after I came to Los Angeles, I remember seeing Heinz 57 ketchup and thinking: ‘The 1984 Olympics are coming. How about I come up with a Tran 84, something I can sell to everyone?’ ” What Mr. Tran developed in Los Angeles in the early 1980s was his own take on a traditional Asian chili sauce. http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
- Micah Wittman
Alex, I keep a bottle of Sriracha and a bottle of Tabasco on my desk at work. They each have their place in my heart and stomach.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
Sriracha FTW... works on just about anything, including Spam
- Adrian
YIKES!!!! too much fire for me - as I get older I am becoming a major wimp! my fav is now the Thai Sweet Chili Sauce - also excellent on eggs ;-p
- Robyn Hawk
Ever since an FFer mentioned sriracha sauce in ramen noodles (that thread renewed my love for ramen), I've had a bottle at home & work. I put it in my Pho for months w/o knowing what it was (I always get take-out, & they put it in tubs). Since buying it, I've tried w/ green onion crab from a Chinese restaruant & lasagna. May have tried it on pizza! I've put it on potato chips & food...
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- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Never had cable TV, not that I watch TV much unless I'm streaming media from my computer/Xbox.
- Andrew Trinh
from iPhone
My wife and I turned it off. Didn't miss it. 'cept my mother-in-law spent over a month with us and she lasted about a day before she called up and turned it back on.
- Wirehead
apart from PBS, we barely watch television. DO IT. the savings will be a good thing.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
I like how Google Chrome deals with OpenSearch. It appears to cache the XML definition as it auto-discovers them. Just start typing the domain and then hit tab to search it. Much nicer than manually installing a new search for each domain like Firefox does.
It also appears to work for sites that don't publish an OpenSearch spec. I think it does something smart to figure out where your result endpoint is and what your query parameter is.
- Bill Strathearn
This has always been one of my most favorite features of Chrome. I'd like to see them fold in Opera's method as well so I can configure a given search if Chrome's auto-discovery doesn't work exactly right.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Don't know what I'd do without it. Saves me lots of time when doing research across blogs.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
or, it's just doing the google site:
- Chris Heath
@Chris Heath it's a site search trick, not google search...
- İsmail Aşcı
I'm not sure I like it. I often use Google site search to bypass a site's own search because Google is often better. Now when I type in site:sitename.com it automatically defaults to the site's own search.
- Jesse Stay
Haven't been able to live without it, feel lost when I'm using other browsers.
- Andrew Trinh
Akiva, configure by right clicking the location field, "Edit search engines..."
- Raphael, Raphael
Jesse, strange. I just tried doing a site:site.com search and it worked as expected. The behavior might be different in Windows.
- Akiva Moskovitz
You can also add one manually, just use the url and "%s" (minus quotes) where the query goes, and it adds "search+term+goes+here" if your search is "search term goes here"
- Nathan Snyder
What a sad story. He clearly was abused. Not that that excuses murder in a case where you're not immediately being physically threatened. I'm usually pretty hardass when it comes to crime but I agree with the article that with a lot of therapy he could be rehabilitated.
- Spidra Webster
It's quite hard to believe some people, it's a shame that he was pushed so much that he snapped.
- Andrew Trinh
from IM
Observing my 19 year old cousin converse with her friends on Facebook is a whole new world. What language is it they are speaking? And when did I get so old? And why does no one know how to spell anymore? *facepalm*
Wait until it's yr 19 yo kid you are watching speak like that on FB :-) Makes me want to rush off on my Zimmer frame and write a Letter to the Editor and then call John Fayne on 774
- Threepwood
I'm only 20 and I can't see how they speak like that, it takes more effort than typing correctly. KekKEklajfapjaslkdfjakldsjf PIODJFIO PJ@#irj15r
- Andrew Trinh
I'm with Andrew, also a 20 year old, and I can't handle txtspeak, I can parse it, but I don't like typing it, especially if I have access to a full keyboard, I don't see a point.
- Jimminy Fuller
Even using my old Nokia phones I'd use a T9 dictionary to type it all out instead of txt speak.
- Andrew Trinh