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On a Mac I take it. In windows, Ctrl+Q does nothing. - Mohamed J

Third comment from the bottom at http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive... might be applicable to Firefox. I'm not on a Mac to verify. - Mohamed J

Have you tried customizing this setting in OS X System Preferences > Keyboard & Mouse > Keyboard Shortcuts ? - Alex Barbara

The whole notion of that applications like the browser (or your computer) are routinely "started" and "stopped" is not user-friendly. One does want to be able to do that, but for many it's much less common than the undesirable situation where you need to reset (i.e. quit/restart) because the app is bloating. Session restore tries to get around this, but it's still duct-taped on, hence... more... - j1m

Just download the source, make the small change you need, and recompile! :) - Gabe

@j1m make your computer suspend-able instead of power shutdown, you won't need that start/stop anymore... besides, I hear complaints about problem of start/stop paradigm mostly from computer-illiterates which are main cash cow for Apple Inc. so I have no wonder -- you can't teach them anythign anyway, so let'em suffer with Macs and Ipods ;) - A.T.

I'm complaining about the start/stop paradigm. Are j1m and I computer illiterates? - ⓞnor

Firefox, unlike other apps on the Mac, wasn't honoring the keyboard shortcuts that Mac OS lets you set. ⌘Q may be different; I haven't tried. I ended up writing an extension to redefine some of the keyboard shortcuts. Bleh. - Amit Patel

@e3r well, you don't complain about turning engine key in your car on and off all the time, do you? you don't blame light switch for necessity to turn on and off your whole adult life... but the notion of starting and stopping program makes you complaining, huh? - A.T.

I agree with j1m that the notion of opening and closing apps is bogus. Opening and closing “files” is also bogus. Palm OS was nice. I do like Firefox session restore. Mac's Quick Look is another bandaid. - Amit Patel

silpol, I'm frequently annoyed by having to turn my car on and off. In this case the bigger issue is that I accidentally exited Firefox -- I've never accidentally turned off my car, because they made that an appropriate separate action from shifting, steering, etc. - Paul Buchheit

People frequently try to turn their cars on when they're already on though. :-) Prius owners (and presumably owners of other pushbutton hybrids) can easily turn their car off when they mean to turn it off because the action is identical and reversible. - Kevin Fox

Another option is to simply set browser.tabs.warnOnClose to true, since I'm assuming you'll most likely have multiple tabs open anyway - Aviv

Do you mean Apple-Q? - Sam Pullara

Yes, Apple-Q. I thought it as called "option", though now I notice that there is a different key labeled "option", and other people seem to be calling it "command". - Paul Buchheit

Is there a problem with starting it again? If you use the session feature, you shouldn't lose your place or anything. And Aviv's suggestion is a good one. - Tanath

If starting/stopping an app was instantaneous, that would be fine too. - Amit Patel

Just did it again! I actually have browser.tabs.warnOnClose set, but it doesn't seem to do anything, possibly because I also have the "save session" option set (but as Amit points out, that's far from instant, and of course things are never quite the same when they come back). - Paul Buchheit

This any use? http://www.macosxhints.com/article... - Slippy "WildBeard" Lane

I just don't use tabs. I open every browser window in a separate process, then I don't have to worry about that. - Gabe

I finally found a workaround to this horrible nightmare. For me, it didn't work to set a global keyboard shortcut in OS X that would change the "Quit Firefox" keybinding, command-Q would continue to do its damage. It also didnt' work for me to turn on browser.tabs.warnOnQuit and set it to true (in about:config or preferences). What did work is install Tab Mix Plus and force it to prompt me whenever FF exited before it saved my session. - Huy Zing

Paul, have you seen this? http://www.mydigitallife.info/2008... Comment #19 looks helpful. Haven't tried it myself though, sorry. - Diego Barros 

*yawns* been there done that. good luck on creating yet another new tagging "standard". I was calling for this over 2 years ago. See: http://infinitelymeta.blogspot.com/2007... - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Brain: Calling out is great but thats not the same is building one right. Is there an existing successful tagging standard that you are referring to? - Kiran Patchigolla

Lovely screenshot: Services that help you FreeBase. I think those services are: 1 candle holder and 1 spoon holder. - Frank Jonen

Understood Kiran. What about RDFa and uM? Are they good enough? I don't know. Is there something better that could be developed and "standardized"? Maybe. To be fair, I have yet to dig deeper into Common Tag and I will do just that when I get some free time. As an old standards wonk, I'm skeptical of any grassroots standards initiative. What ever happened to DataPortability? - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Frank: Keepin' it classy. =) It's what we all do best. So, what's wrong with the screenshot? Also, clearly you've not got much experience in freebasing, which counts as a point in your favor. Candle stick holder? Like, freebasing in Dickensian literature? - Jolie O'Dell

Now that I've actually read the entire post and dug into "Common Tag" a bit deeper, I see that it does indeed rely on RDFa. I'm still skeptical. Where's IBM, Microsoft, Oracle? If they aren't behind it, then it can't be a real standard right? Sorry, the old standards cynic in me tends to rear its head every so often. To this day, I'm still haunted by old posts like this:... more... - Brian Daniel Eisenberg

Hmm, I can see a lot of usage on consumer content. how do you see enterprise adoption of this will help? - Kiran Patchigolla

It's also good about dropping in captions and source links even though Blogger or Wordpress make that a bit harder than it needs to be. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Hi, Andraz from Zemanta Here. We always want to hear what else you would expect from a smart tool like Zemanta? - Andraž Tori

My #1 peeve with Zemanta at the moment is that it doesn't sense the caps and spacing I've used in my existing tags. If I've got a tag for "Sharepoint" and you recommend "Microsoft SharePoint" I'm quite likely to use yours and then unwittingly introduce clutter to my tagging system. Can you do a bit better job of scanning and matching my existing system? - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

Thanks for stopping by. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

Daniel, that would be next-to-impossible, firefox plug-in can't see your old posts. depending on the platform you are using, you could maybe instruct it to lower-case or camel-case all your tags, so that wouldn't be a problem anymore. Or maybe we should go lowercase only? - Andraž Tori

I figured that would be difficult, but you deserved the truth all the same. Your tag implementation is frustrating to use. Probably WordPress's fault more than anything. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

Daniel, thank you for information! This is important to know - haven't yet got complains about that. What about other kinds of suggestions and interaction, any complaints? Also what are other sources that you want suggested? - Andraž Tori

Here are the articles in question. They're from Steve Rubel: http://friendfeed.com/e... & http://friendfeed.com/e... - Tac Anderson

Thanks for thinking "out load" here about this. It is very interesting, and good to know about. - Eric Herberholz

This is just another example of the Next Big Thing on the Internet: Data finds data. We have not seen the end of this. - Frode Stenstrøm

I hope so. I've been sending some FF entries to Zemanta so I can remember them for later blog posts. It's been working too. - Captain Bubbles

Anika, how do you do this? by just including them in blog posts or do you compile them somewhere? - Tac Anderson

Andraz, how long have you guys been doing this? Is this a wide release or something that you're rolling out? - Tac Anderson

No, I use the Add Zemanta bookmarklet. - Captain Bubbles

Anika, Interesting, thanks. I haven't been using the bookmarklet. I'll have to give it a try. - Tac Anderson

Anika, yeah, its cool I use it to remind me of blog posts too because marking them in FF often sends them into a black hole and fuhgeddaboudit! I also use Zemanta in email to send myself to add to my blog task list and the item gets added to the Zemanta roll by keyword when you do the blog later (hopefully). - Sally Church

Hey does that mean we gals are ahead of the guys? ;-) - Sally Church

Sally - always! - Hutch Carpenter

Sally, ITA about Zemanta in email. It's been saving me lately since the bookmarklet isn't working in Chrome. - Captain Bubbles

Hutch ;-) - Sally Church

Sally - Wow, I thought I was up to speed on Zemanta usage but you girls are definitely putting me to shame. I gotta step up my game :) - Tac Anderson

Yeah good ideas, to find anything later on FF is like a needle in a hay stack - sofarsoShawn

Does anyone use Zemanta with MyBlogLog? I've seen the links there but never used it. - WorldofHiglet

This is funny. Friendfeed items inside Zemanta's suggestion pool are actually an unintended consequence of some infrastructural changes. :) I probably shouldn't have admitted that :). But hey, if users like it, this is just great! - Andraž Tori

Gonna keep 'em Andraž? - Hutch Carpenter

As @frodeste says, we're doing content-to-content recommendations, and this is just another type of them (more news coming in next weeks). - Andraž Tori

@Hutch yes, for now definitely (I am so busy I don't even have time to check what needs to be done to unkeep 'em :). Expect some more interesting content types in next weeks. - Andraž Tori

@Andraz I love the honesty. What I really want to know is what kind of changes caused such a serendipitous 'accident'. (No need to spill, just wondering out loud). That makes the whole content/conversation distribution/re-aggregation all the more fascinating. It's like a time/space worm hole or something :) - Tac Anderson

this thread is a great example of why i love friendfeed :) - mike "glemak" dunn

Zemanta simply rocks. Even the accidents are gems:) - Sameer

genieyclo, this is actually a guest post by Corvida. Just wanted to make sure we gave props where they were due. - Rob Diana

Great post Corvida and really enjoying the content on your blog Chris! :-) - Joe Dawson

Robert, have you seen what VMWare is bringing to the table? http://www.vmware.com/cloud - this can connect any VMware client to any datacenter running VMware. We're migrating to Bluelock (http://bluelock.com) here in Indianapolis and they introduced me to this - it's absolutely amazing and could go head to head with the monster datacenters that are getting built. - Douglas Karr

Wonder if he thought the electrical grid was, too, re: The Big Switch. :) - Douglas Karr from twhirl