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back from hubby's xmas function. good food, slow service at kingsley steak house canberra
Kingsley's Canberra is famed for slow slack service, Ruth. I've eaten there three times and it has always been the same, won't go back.
- Andrew Boyd
Step 1: Step on FriendFeed bandwagon. Step 2: Make unfounded declarations about future of FriendFeed. Step 3: Congratulate yourself. Step 4: Hope like hell your unfounded declaration is true.
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FriendFeed's Bookmarklet kick's Twitter's Bookmarklets a$$! Oh wait, that's not an unfounded declaration...nevermind.
- Robert Seidman
Haha. :)
- Jennifer Leggio
Does anyone realize that the same people that are claiming today that Friendfeed is going to kill Twitter, are the same people that earlier this month were claiming that BrightKite was the 'next big thing'?
- Mack Collier
I figure since my unfounded declarations have been made solely with Photoshop twitter is down parodies I can chalk up anything that happens as comedic license.
- Kevin Bondelli
I think that FF has the ability to kill Twitter (if they evolve it some more) but I never talked up bkite. As for unfounded, if you're having a go at me Jennifer, YOU NEVER READ THE POST. What I said was that FF has the ability to move into Twitter's space and kill it (which they do), I never once said FF as it stands today will kill Twitter. No hoping in that, informed call made on the great skill set the FF team has
- Duncan Riley
what's a brightkite?
- Thomas Hawk
hahahahaha...via feedalizr
- drew olanoff
Thomas: http://brightkite.com/ - Want an invite?
- Vincent X
Duncan - Until you commented here I had no idea who you were. So, uh, no, wasn't "having a go" at you. It's a no brainer that FF is capturing more Twitter users and could, eventually, knock Twitter down. My annoyance is with people who a week ago were indifferent about FriendFeed and now are rushing to post blogs about it. Where were they a few months ago? Too much bandwagon BS for my taste.
- Jennifer Leggio
haha, no thanks Vincent, I'm good. I'll join as soon as they are one of the FF social networks, I've now signed up for 100% of the social networks that FF supports.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas - I burnt out on Brightkite after about a week. Plus I had my old boss threaten to show up at a dinner just to teach me a lesson about broadcasting my location. Ha.
- Jennifer Leggio
Jennifer, I'm partly to blame because I started this weeks bitchmeme with the kill word. I take your point on board, but I'm suggest you're attitude towards others having a say isn't a positive for the conversation. So what they jumped on board last week, I got converted 3-4 weeks ago after not getting it for months (and even saying so publicly). Every service has an infliction point, let them come in and talk about it, don't have to agree with it but that doesn't mean they don't have the right to say it
- Duncan Riley
Step 5: Profit ?!?!?!
- Tim Moore
Jennifer, unless you were the founder of a service, there will always be someone who was there before, and usually, many more after. To close the doors on new users is silly, and it's very early in FriendFeed's growth phase. These go in waves. there was a wave in October of '07, another wave in February/March, and one now. It'll happen again. And we should welcome the new users and blog posts.
- Louis Gray
"Never ask a man for his opinion on a business plan. Ask a woman. A man will love any plan that focuses on killing something else, no matter how ineffective the plan" - Guy Kawasaki (sorta)
- Matt Frog
If I may step in..@Sozo Sazesh I think the fac that the facebook community thrives on various updates on others is an example of how FriendFeed is relevant.
- Jacob Nahin
I'm going to do step 4 differently: Hope like hell that nobody else's unfounded declarations are true :)
- Eric Florenzano
Duncan, of course they have the right to say it. My initial comment was absolutely tongue-in-cheek. It's just... I'm not sure how if I can articulate this well... everyone should have an opinion and, of course, when people find a new "thing" they are going to get excited about it and write about it. GREAT. My eye rolling ensues when its clear that people are trying to "position" themselves rather than communication passion. It's transparent.
- Jennifer Leggio
Soso, each person you know probably has a Facebook profile, a Linkedin profile, maybe a Twitter account, possibly a handful of other social sites like Last.fm, Youtube, etc. Wouldn't it be far more convenient to catch up on what they're doing from one site, rather than going to 5 or 10?
- Mark Trapp
Duncan, perhaps you're right that my criticism is not constructive, but I spent all last week pushing Twitter Love Day to help make conversations around the Twit-Out constructive. Everyone has a weak moment. ;-)
- Jennifer Leggio
Soso, you are here having a conversation now. Is that not relevant? The beauty of FF is that you can jump in for 10 minutes or 10 hours. Me, I've only been in for 15 min or so. I just finished watching Charlie Wilson's War with mrsth. I just pick up where i left off. It like a bar where there is always a conversation going on. What's not to love?
- Thomas Hawk
meh... I stepped on the bandwagon in Beta, I never make unfounded declarations about the future of anything - but I congratulate myself nonetheless... what was #4 again?
- Lucretia Pruitt
Sigh. Step 5: Do not use dry humor on FriendFeed as people may misunderstand.
- Jennifer Leggio
@Sozo Sazesh That's a good point. I can concede to that.
- Jacob Nahin
Louis, not at all what I was implying. Please see my last responses to Duncan.
- Jennifer Leggio
Soso, what's the importance criteria in Facebook? Maybe more importantly, if you only have time or want to spend the time to observe, what does it matter how important you are?
- Mark Trapp
And for the record, I dig FriendFeed. Been on a while but just started getting active. I want both FF and Twitter to flourish.... if possible.
- Jennifer Leggio
@Kevin Bondelli for you ;) http://www.lalafufu.com/twitter...
- Tim Moore
@Thomas Hawk I do say, referring to what Scoble mentioned recently, FF does have an awesome half-life
- Jacob Nahin
Jennifer, fair enough.
- Duncan Riley
Soso, the beauty of Friendfeed is that the buy-in for most users is very small: link up the content you are already producing to Friendfeed and you're good to go. Your friends and followers can keep up to date with what you're doing without you having to constantly remind them to "check my facebook profile" or "check my blog" (ironically, like you just did here). The likes/comments feature of Friendfeed is the poweruser level: I doubt if FF went mainstream most of the population would utilize it.
- Mark Trapp
Soso, Friendfeed is heavy on the social media kool aid because early adopters are using it. Early adopters are power users. If/when it goes mainstream, the practices that we're using now (heavy commenting with people outside our core relationships) are not going to be seen in the mainstream audience. For example, Robert Scoble uses Facebook in a vastly different way than college or high school kids use it. You'll see the same thing happen with Friendfeed.
- Mark Trapp
Soso, discussion threads like this (and all the others) don't seem to wind up happening on Facebook. These kinds of conversations are made much easier on FriendFeed.
- Robert Seidman
Soso, Facebook is boring.
- Thomas Hawk
@Soso I think you might be putting too much emphasis on the amount of services. I personally don't gauge my interest in another FF user by the amount of his or her services. I gauge it on his or her conversations, responses to others, sense of humor, passion, etc. If we're going to break it down to FriendFeed vs Twitter, FF at least lets you quickly see BOTH sides of a conversation versus having to click back and forth to see disparate tweets to get a full picture. That's just ONE benefit of the service.
- Jennifer Leggio
@Soso If someone walks into *any* social media environment and bases his or her judgment of the effectiveness of said service solely on how popular or important his or her own presence is, then the experience will never be successful. It will always be built on a shaky foundation. And those trying to determine who to read will see through it and may not be as interested as they would be if the person just shared and expressed without worry about such things.
- Jennifer Leggio
so this guy named Sosa walks into a bar, and the bartender says.....
- Thomas Hawk
lol @ Thomas
- Jennifer Leggio
Jennifer - Most of the people that I see talking about FF now really have been all along. Sure, there are a few 'well-known' sites that are now joining in but that's all part of 'the buzz'. If there was no value, most of them are smart enough to not be doing it. Regardless. Great Dialog. Thanks!
- Charlie Anzman
@Charlie, sure thing. Who knew I would spark such a discussion, but I think it's wonderful that people are talking. :)
- Jennifer Leggio
I think the main point here is, can we please tone down the almost obsessive over-hyping of these tools? Last year it was Facebook, then it was Twitter, then BrightKite, and now FriendFeed.
- Mack Collier
Glad to see the early adopters hammering those terrible newcomers - I've been on FriendFeed for a whole six hours now and standards certainly started to decline in the early afternoon (AEST)! (for the benefit of the thick - I am joking, you know that, right? :) )
- Andrew Boyd
@Andrew - *cries* Seriously, I am going to cry. I am not even an early adopter. I signed up all of a month ago. I was making a joke about hypocrisy. I, erm, sigh. I'm gonna go over -----> here
- Jennifer Leggio
@Jennifer I know, mine was more a comment on the emotional maturity of some of your respondents - still any publicity is good publicity (most of the time, unless people don't know when to stop). Thanks for brightening my first day on FF :)
- Andrew Boyd
@Andrew Heh, I appreciate the support. I think I learned a lesson in that while on Twitter, most everyone who follows me knows me or knows my style already. Here, it's much more open which is GREAT. But easier to misconstrue. But I am who I am and I have a stupid sense of humor. So I'll brace myself. ;-)
- Jennifer Leggio
Sorry Soso, didn't mean to call you Sosa. No more wine for me tonight.
- Thomas Hawk
@Jennifer - good heavens! You did start something! Pot stirrer! ;) Seriously, I thought you were being funny. But you know - it *IS* the internet still, even if it's FF :)
- Lucretia Pruitt
Ah, okay. I was wondering when we started talking about that baseball player.
- Morton Fox
@Lucretia - It's actually kind of funny. Ok very funny. lol
- Jennifer Leggio
4. Forget what future makes of your declarations, wait on the next big thing then go to step 1-3. And so on, until someone gets lucky with the future and then he/she gets to name the next big thing :) We're all game and there's no limit to how many ways we find to interact.
- Dani Radu
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