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Will Cunchpad deliver the apple user experience that its design seeks to imitate? Love the idea of a $200 tablet though. http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
Andre P. Siregar and TobiasVerhoog.com liked this
You just answered your own question with a couple of nos. Nobody can deliver equivalent level of immersive interaction without a sizable investment. Which Arrington hasn't got. And you can just about forget the idea of a $200 tablet, it won't be happening. This was a gross miscalculation of TC team once upon a time based on cost of components in somewhat midsized batches of the product...
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- ianf ⌘
How do you know Arrington doesn't have the investment money? He frequents the VC crowd. Are you suggesting that the whole venture was created on a whim without any prior market research? Surely this is not a 'vanity device'?
- Andrew Eglinton
Will it only run a browser? Would be nice to run maybe Adobe AIR apps or something. Like tweetdeck.
- TobiasVerhoog.com
That's exactly what I am saying, a badly researched vanity project against better judgement. It's all well and dandy if TC manages to come out with an initial, still-imperfect batch of these, and then sees the goodwill towards the product crumble. What Arrington hasn't really thought through is that in order to compete in the commodities market (as any $200 web-appliance device...
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- ianf ⌘
I think the initial spec spoke of somewhat modified FireFox browser only, with some plugins and linked Skype, etc. No OS would be needed. Then they must've realized that FireFox, even a very stable release, is a glutton for memory, and a constant future vector for user complaints why it can not be extended by this and that favorite plugin, and must have reconsidered its use. I don't...
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- ianf ⌘
ianf - These are all solid arguments you make here. Another point that comes to mind is to do with form factor. Do we really need a large touch screen device when the tech world has been perfecting portability for the past 60+ years? The iPhone (and its competition) is shaping a large swathe of today's digital landscape, so while it may still seem desirable in 2009 to provide more screen real estate, it's soon likely to become a non-argument.
- Andrew Eglinton
Actually, CrunchPad's "oversized" form factor is of little consequence to its portability, as the device has apparently been designed for use within easy reach of a recharging socket. Consequently, I do not expect any great battery life from it, perhaps 2hrs on full charge (that's what one could depend on from Compaq, then HP TC1000/TC1100 tablet with similar form factor). If it turns...
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- ianf ⌘
[December 2nd, 2009] For the record: here's the official "Demise of the CrunchPad" by Arrington himself http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... plus a lame attempt at explaining away the colossal non-future of this ill-conceived project: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009... Ah, well, it was entertaining to read about while it lasted.
- ianf ⌘
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- Andrew Eglinton
from Posterous
The UK Olympic committee just released the first wave of artists who have received funding from the Cultural Olympiad. Many of the projects are predictably large scale works accessible to a wide range of visitors. Here's the website http://www.artiststakingthelead.org.uk/
The commissions are already stirring a fair amount of debate http://is.gd/4AtCE
- Andrew Eglinton
listening to "Pablo CASALS - CHOPIN, Nocturne in E flat Major" - http://blip.fm/profile...
Coming to the surface for air...
- Andrew Eglinton
from Blip.fm
Custom Themes for Posterous. Also supports Tumblr themes OTB.
Zachary TG, Cristiana Danila Formetta, Alex Schleber and 79 other people liked this
Not official yet I think, but the screenshot is real and provides some info. The "Porting Tumblr" tab explains that you can use Tumblr themes as is, but all Tumblr blocks in the code won´t be supported at first.
- Thomas Bøhm
Where is the screenshot from?
- Daniel Sims
Looks exciting! I'm glad we'll be able to do completely custom themes from the beginning.
- Andrew
@Daniel: Just add "/theming" to your Posterous url :) (http://posterous.com/theming) Not visible in settings yet though. EDIT: Blocked now.
- Thomas Bøhm
Shhh guuuyys it's seeecret!!!
- Garry Tan
that'll be great if there comes a WYSIWYG creater tool for this...
- 麦克.疯
At last! Looks great, especially because users can build their own themes! Can't wait to put my hands at work on this!
- Jordi Soler
Finally! Thank god, love this service
- James Tenniswood
Can't wait!!!
- Rubin Sfadj
The folks at Posterous are really hard at work. I haven't seen anything exciting coming out of Tumblr lately
- Andre P. Siregar
Wow! That's really cool!
- Svartling
Can we use widgets and javascript code?
- Svartling
I think it will spawn quite a large number of available themes and probably cannibalize Tumblr quite a bit. @Garry: Sorry, but it wasn't a very well kept secret;) Google blogsearch showed it to me on a search I had surrounding Posterous.
- Thomas Bøhm
from BuddyFeed
@Svartling: No, not at first it says. But knowing Posterous it'll probably come along.
- Thomas Bøhm
from BuddyFeed
Things just got intriguing...
- JA Castillo
So, when does this theming feature become available? ;-)
- Rubin Sfadj
So are we any closer to getting an official date for the launch of custom themes? Or have I overlooked something?
- Andrew Eglinton
They could have custom backgrounds just to tide us over. Full themes may already be possible if the API is good enough.
- Raphael, Raphael
where's this exiting screenshot? Please, let me know how's possible to implement my posterous with theming options ..(
- Cipriana Maiameraime
WOW, nice scoop !!!
- kOoLiNuS
Awesome... just set up two sibling Posterous blogs last night... it will be cool to style them!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
...........that's great !!
- Marco Castellani
Dude, this was not suppose to be leaked
- Wayne Sutton
from iPhone
But since you did, custom themes is going to be nice !
- Wayne Sutton
from iPhone
I love leaks!
- John Graham
It's been leaking for a while now ... any update on projected availability? There have been a number of new features added since this was posted here.
- Allan Besselink
Theming is live! http://blog.posterous.com/postero...
- Garry Tan
Cool.
- Zachary TG
Fwd: Launching now: Greenroom a new blog for Queensland's professional and independent theatre community. http://actorsgreenroom.net/ #qldtheatre (via http://friendfeed.com/dramagi...)
And now I can relax ... I think!
- Kate Foy
Congratulations, it looks brilliant!
- Andrew Eglinton
New feature for sites that allow public submissions: Bulk delete unapproved posts - http://blog.posterous.com/new-fea...
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We want customizable themes not bulk delete buttons! Grateful for this new feature though we are ;)
- Andrew Eglinton
Theatre in Pictures: http://www.londontheatreblog.co.uk/theatre...
chaz2b and Craig Mason liked this
Lovely idea Andrew. Well done LTB.
- Kate Foy
I can't wait to see more. It's the antithesis of http://inaproductionof.blogspot.com/
- Craig Mason
Many thanks for the comments. More to come...
- Andrew Eglinton
very nice - looking forward to more - ty!
- aflow
listening to "Dennis Chambers Drum Solo Live With John McLaughlin" - http://blip.fm/~c56k5
Dennis Chambers ripping sweet hell out of his drum kit.
- Andrew Eglinton
from Blip.fm
Facebook's recent purchase of FriendFeed reiterates one of the major flaws (read 'challenges') of social media platforms: shelf life is far shorter than user life. The widespread FriendFeed user disarray is, to me, a symptom of our adjustment to digital/web development speed (Moore's Law?)
Kol Tregaskes, Владимир, Jeff P. Henderson and 5 other people liked this
We want something with the permanance of a moleskine notebook, and yet we are using platforms that are as fleeting as cherry blossom.
- Andrew Eglinton
What would help is some form of legacy protocol that allowed you to carry all your digital properties with you from old platform to new platform. The problem with that of course is that if we were to group together the sum of our online activities since say 2000, we'd be looking at a fairly staggering amount of data. Far too resource heavy to move around with. So perhaps someone should invent an online data storage bank with 'lifetime' guarantee.
- Andrew Eglinton
It's a good point. A side note though: the social media platforms have this in common with Moleskine brand notebooks: commercial success has as much to do with strong marketing as the actual utilitarian qualities of the product itself.
- Micah Wittman
"as much" is debatable, but the point is made.
- Micah Wittman
Yes, you're right, the core of this problem is sustainability. When Moleskine began its operation some 200 years ago, there would have been seemingly no end to resources for the production of paper and no better alternative to the paper medium in sight. 200 years later and we have an alternative, but one with the morphology of a newborn baby. And since we have the benefit of comparative...
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- Andrew Eglinton
The web has been like this since 1993. No way to trust that a webpage will exist in 3-5 years, so if I really like content, I save a PDF/picture/HTML file on my local computer. For example, if I liked a news article (before FriendFeed), I would e-mail myself (1) article name (2) weblink (3) AND full-text of the article. Also helps with newspapers which become paid-access after X weeks/months/years.
- Mitchell Tsai
@Mitchell Tsai That's a fascinating process. How extensive are your archives? Do you apply any form of classification to your 'gleaned' data? Do you limit the process to news articles or do you document/archive images, multi-media (where possible) and more recently, shorter micro-texts?
- Andrew Eglinton
No keyword or fancy classification for articles. Pictures are in a directory structure of topics & subtopics. Most of my FriendFeed posts have a pattern in the subject; e.g. "Don Hewitt, 1922 - 2009 (pictures) [Washington Post - 3:28 pm ET, 24 min ago]" This is what I put in subject headers when I e-mail myself. I try to include source, author, date, & content - and use keyword search...
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- Mitchell Tsai
But cherry trees bloom again every year Andrew. Isn't that the important thing?
- Todd Hoff
Mitchell, thanks for providing some insight into your methodology.
- Andrew Eglinton
Petr Buben to Petr's feed, Mashable24, FriendFeed Feedback, FFNews24, Facebook1, Facebuq, FaceBookNews, WashingtonPost1
Facebook's Purchase Is Bid to Own Social Media. Facebook's purchase of FriendFeed, an obscure social-media platform, is potentially momentous. To understand why, we must understand FriendFeed, a start-up that is ubiquitous among techies and unknown to everybody else. It's a sleek application that acts as a clearinghouse for all of your... - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...
Andrew Eglinton, Ami Iida, Dennis Jernberg and 2 other people liked this
.... your social-media activities.....The social-media landscape has become disparate enough -- so many start-ups controlling so many different pieces of our lives -- that we need a central place that will organize all of our actions for us. That place is FriendFeed.
- Petr Buben
from Bookmarklet
Nice article. "After all, that's why Facebook bought FriendFeed. So it could own you".
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
true. ...so, now how do we understand it? ... what conclusions, consequences for us, dedicated FF user club?
- Petr Buben
I'm drawing no conclusions, just waiting for official word while continuing to enjoy FriendFeed as it is for as long as possible.
- Martin Bryant
from iPhone
FriendFeed, Facebook and Twitter are expendable and will be replaced by other services. What does matter and what is not expendable is the human need to communicate. And so long as oxygen reaches our lungs, we will communicate regardless of the platform or the technology. Zuckerberg's biggest obstacle and biggest mistake is his trust in brand uniformity. To be coaxed into a single way...
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- Andrew Eglinton
yes ..but i think one, the most flexible, all encompassing, multiplatform, can become a market share leader. FF was, and is on its way, in many senses ....... in the meantime THIS ARTICLE, posted also on http://HufingtonPost.com, where you can comment, has become THE MOST VIEWED article on http://WashingtonPost.com ..- that a good one. ...if FF team was implementing our feature...
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- Petr Buben
"If FriendFeed becomes involved in a merger, acquisition, or any form of sale of some or all of its assets, we will provide notice before personal information is transferred and becomes subject to a different privacy policy.". Given the chequered history of Facebook and user data I think we should all be vigilant to ensure this happens.
HollyHobby, Greg Guitarbuster, Ron Thompson and 21 other people liked this
I'd like more than notice...I'd like options.
- joey
Dart in your neck!
- Bwana ☠
Well your only option is to delete your account I think. Under current policies it would be completely gone. But the policy doesn't say what kind of notice or how much time they will provide so a simple FF post or blog entry followed by an immediate change would satisfy the requirement so you may not have time.
- Brian Sullivan
dang.. good catch.. now its time to see what happens.. we all know what FB does to private users information .. remember the recent Court Order from Canada telling FB that users information should be deleted and not retained !!
- Peter Dawson
good luck on the data retention thing.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
since not a lot of people know about this, maybe this *bump* will put the spotlight back on this again...
- vijay
http://friendfeed.com/about... is where this is quoted from
- Brian Sullivan
A very important point indeed. Well spotted.
- Andrew Eglinton
In light of the above, current inability to export one's contributions prior to leaving the no-longer-FF, it becomes even stranger when, in response to just such a complaint, one of the FFounders refers a rank-and-file user to the API: http://friendfeed.com/ianf... ?Why? because the API undeniably is t.h.e.r.e.
- ianf ⌘
Also observe the date of that quoted [FriendFeed Privacy Policy Last updated: September 26, 2008] »FriendFeed takes your privacy seriously. We respect and protect the privacy of our users and take appropriate steps to safeguard your personal information. This privacy policy (the “Policy”) explains the types of personal information that we receive and collect when you use the FriendFeed website ("Site") or the services offered by FriendFeed ("Services"). […]«
- ianf ⌘
Yup, your privacy/personal information was part of the deal no doubt; i echo joey's sentiments and call for options
- sofarsoShawn
Fine print "Comments, photos, videos posted on our site become our property!"" to be used/ sold at our discretion..." You can delete your account but they keep your data!
- Ron Thompson
from iPhone
A 1945 Code of Ethics for Theatre Workers Surfaces | LA STAGE BLOG - http://www.lastageblog.com/2009...
Craig Mason, Caroline, Andrew Eglinton and chaz2b liked this
I particularly like this one: "8. I shall forego the gratification of my ego for the demands of the play."
- Andrew Eglinton
Isn't it terrific! I hope this finds its way to theatre notice boards everywhere.
- Kate Foy
Food for the soul!
- Kris Joseph
Example of a digital theatre programme. "In an effort to reduce waste, Rorschach Theatre has gone electronic with much of our program copy. Whether you've seen the show already or are looking forward to it, we hope that you'll enjoy reading more about our artists here:" http://docs.google.com/present...
Travis Bedard and Kate Foy liked this
I'm wondering how this might be integrated with the other social networking services a company might use. Ideas anyone? How would you present this digital programme to audiences and potential audiences to maximise its presence and use?
- Kate Foy
Yes if you could somehow turn the programme into a talking point, a point of exchange, prior to the show, between cast and audience and post show for discussions/feedback, but also keep it informative and inspirational then you might be able to string things together. So theatre programme as 'social object'?
- Andrew Eglinton
'Programme as social object' .... yes. And if copyright etc. permitted ... a link to the annotated script of the play as well (for reference). I've always thought of a playscript as a socio-political artefact anyway ... linking, discussion, commentary would enhance this aspect of the play and capture something of the aliveness of the production and its historical position.
- Kate Foy
Ah yes of course the script as well. The ability to capture audience responses to plays would be a tremendous resource, particularly for future researchers. When we look back at past theatres now, we're somewhat at the mercy of theatre critics (where reviews exist), diarists, letters or commentary from fellow writers and artists, but rarely do you get a sense of a play's reception from the point of the view of audiences.
- Andrew Eglinton
So the programme is also part archive. Within this context, the term 'programme' seems inadequate.
- Andrew Eglinton
Re the gauging audience response part. I'm not a huge Bob Dylan fan, but I was struck by a section in the documentary 'No Direction Home' about his life and work, a section where you get to hear members of his audience talk about one of his gigs, quite critically. Having that on record is very valuable. You can see the section I'm talking about here, it lasts for about a minute or so: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Andrew Eglinton
The current paper theatre 'programme' becomes a digitised social object and cultural artefact - anyone want to write a dissertation? *just kidding I think*
- Kate Foy
Sometimes i write longer comments, it is painful problem in the small textarea.Then, i need "Preview my comment" popup , resizeable or expandable textarea like as in this image (2 suggestion in the image). Or javascript based character count and auto resize the textarea.
Kol Tregaskes, Lu Tao and Mike Chelen liked this
Yes, agreed. Long comments are clearly an area that FB/FF need to deal with. As you say both in the composition of long comments but also in displaying long comments with line breaks.
- Andrew Eglinton
Growing ever-fonder of this little list.
- Andrew Eglinton
Cambiare Productions, (Travis Bedard and co) are live-streaming their current production of Orestes on Friday 14 August at 8pm Central (US) time. The script will also be posted. I'll be tuning in at 11am Saturday 15 August AEST. Let's get together as an international audience on this one!
Andrew Eglinton liked this
Sounds good, do you have a link for the live stream yet?
- Andrew Eglinton
Have Friendfeed been adding more new features on the sly, even after being bought?
Iván Abrego, Anne Bouey, Roberto Bonini and 6 other people liked this
Where's that button from?
- Martin Bryant
@Holden - they never said much at all, that's the problem.
- Andrew Eglinton
OR instead of relying on someone else's system, you could create your own.
- Andrew Eglinton
Do what you like, I'm just throwing some ideas out there.
- Andrew Eglinton
I never said it was bad. In fact, it's great. I reckon it's something that they realised they needed this week with all the extra activity discussion the acquisition.
- James Myatt
It hasn't been rolled out to me yet.
- Nick in Manila
Whoa. It's there now. Heh.
- Nick in Manila
Had to do a page refresh. And I'm liking it.
- Nick in Manila
Just noticed. I can delete the friendfeedCommentBottomLink -script now. It was very useful, thank you Micah for that one.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
LANjackal to LANjackal's feed, FriendFeed Talk, FriendFeed Feedback, The Facebook Experience, RWW: The Future of Tech, building43, TheNextWeb Forum
The fact that there's no drop-in alternative for FriendFeed is a testament to just how uniquely great this service is. Facebook can take all the tech they want, they paid for it. Just. DON'T. KILL. FRIENDFEED.
Kol Tregaskes, Dan Hsiao, ★ Soner Gönül and 17 other people liked this
Please?
- LANjackal
I post it on my own feed, but what percentage of Ownership does Microsoft have over FriendFeed and can Microsoft filch some tech for their usage. For example their Live social Site?
- Robert Higgins
Robert: I speculated about that in my blog yesterday: http://friendfeed.com/the-fac...
- LANjackal
We need competition for friendfeed ! Everything works better when you have free-market competition.
- TrafficBug
Outside the towering steel gates of Facebook HQ, an uprising had started. A legion of fanboys with FriendFeed-stickered MacBooks and iPhones in hand, clamored for freedom and the safe return of the “best GUI” in all of Social Mediadom. Deep inside the Facebook fortress, tucked away in an ivory chamber, lay Zuckerberg, in spiritual communion with the great Internet oracle. “Why don’t...
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- Andrew Eglinton
FriendFeed accepts Facebook friend request - FriendFeed Blog - http://blog.friendfeed.com/2009...
(1)Bebekvegebelik, Jason A. Samfield, Srikanth AD and 659 other people liked this
We've been acquired by Facebook! We are really excited about joining the Facebook team. (Note: FriendFeed will continue to operate - see the blog post for details)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
Boom.
- Louis Gray
Grr!
- directeur
Woah...
- Brandon Titus
Uh. Well, that's the end of that.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Argh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
What does this mean for FriendFeed, Bret?
- Kol Tregaskes
Lame.
- Mark Trapp
great title bret. well played.
- MG Siegler
WOW
- Bindu Reddy
Congrat! So, what does this mean to your team and to FF in general?
- Dilip Dand
wahhhhhhhhhh
- Myrna
maaaan
- Jamie
wowow
- Harry Wolff
congrats
- brainno722 (Peter)
Nooooooooooooo
- Mushin
Wait... seriously?
- Ken Sheppardson
oh, noooo
- Tanju Yildiz
Congratulations to the friendfeed team. I know this is huge for y'all. Please don't let us spoil your parade as we weep.
- Ladybug Heather
Seriously?!? .....
- sebastian☆rocket brother
oh boy.
- Carlos Ayala
I am hoping this will lead to nice integration for cross posting! Currently using Twitter App on FB to post and I hate those ff.im links that end up on Facebook.
- Ivan Zlatev
it was good while it lasted, Friendfeed. :(
- holly
division by zero
- Onur Cengiz
OMG
- \(*_*)/
"FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team." Those are NOT encouraging things to read as a FF user.
- Scott of Two Countries
gratz
- Ali
My heart is sinking as I type this. Please tell me that it isn't a late April Fool's joke. :(
- Tyson Key
Wow, it's true!!
- Kevin Whalen
Big news! I second Kol & dilip's request for what this means for the team and FF's future.
- Brandon Titus
O_o
- Joe Silence is not Santa
So it IS true.
- Hector
Nicely done Bret
- Jennifer Van Grove
Congratulations btw, guys!
- Kol Tregaskes
Sniff... not sure if I'm excited about this. But I have enormous respect for the FriendFeed team... so, I assume they believe in the move as more than an exit strategy.
- Michael Leggett
Congrats, Bret.
- Jordan Hofker
This is just horrible
- Matthew DeVries
Congratulations, I suppose. A bit worried Facebook is going to ruin everything though. I'm not fond of Facebook, to say the least.
- Irma Vermaat
Um.
- Barry Mitchelson
Oh my... Hopefully FriendFeed won't vanish and good luck :)
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Do we call it FaceFeed? FriendBook?
- Tyson Key
Oh no....
- Ben Hanten
Terrible fit.
- Matthew DeVries
damn here it is... :(
- Edgar Rodríguez
FriendFace!!! (i love it crowd)
- Bahriye
*waits for wall-to-wall ads and constant spambots*
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Die.
- Zio Bonino
Congrats
- Zoltan Szendro
I dont want FF to end
- Fee501st
Wow
- Shevonne
Oh mon dio !
- Umar
What did you do? WHYYY!
- Zachary TG
Ostregheta.
- Reloj
Congrats guys, in a bittersweet sort of way.
- Hutch Carpenter
guess there's no way of denying this anymore :(
- BCK
Just another lesson in why you shouldn't put your love and trust in a company......
- Matthew DeVries
Oh no!
- Erdinc YILMAZEL
Congrats, but I hate Facebook.
- Zachary TG
I like Friendfeed and I do not like Facebook. Gratz to you guys though, I think.
- Mark Sorrell
"Oh shit..." came to mind immediately. :(
- Tyson Key
Scott, yep not encouraged by that comment. :-(
- Kol Tregaskes
Congrats on the deal, best wishes to the FF'ers in helping facebook get it together!
- Sean O'Connor
This could get exciting, especially concerning twitter :-P
- Malte Steckmeister
Congrats for Friendfeed team, but I'm seriously worried for us :(((((((((((
- Roberto
Congratulations... I'm sure this is pretty exciting for everyone at FriendFeed... We're all looking forward to where it takes you!
- Nathan Chase
And FriendFeed was just getting popular. Not any more.
- Zachary TG
Wow
- Rodfather
*Sobs*
- Tyson Key
wow
- Jack Wilson, K4SAC
to the dump
- Zachary TG
Wow, very disappointed
- Randy Pollock
come on. Bret, facebook is so closed. so different from Friendfeed. besides that. Congrats to the team
- Edgar Rodríguez
As am I
- Zachary TG
machecazzo
- Sba
VERY disappointed.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
horrible decision
- Randy Pollock
Booo. But, you know, congrats.
- Chris Nixon
i'm not sure i'm happy about this.
- Taylan Aydınlı
OMG WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SH*T
- Alp
Congrats for u guys... probably too bad for us ;-(
- Laurent
God, I can see FB shutting down FF just like Six Apart shut down Pownce.
- DarknessFalls
arg.
- Aron Michalski
Good for you, don't know for all of us
- Cristian Conti
@#$& that's all I have to say. For now.
- Zachary TG
Facebook should have been aquired by Friendfeed. Why they hell would you give up your better product to a worse one? Did none of you give a shit about this service to begin wiht?
- Matthew DeVries
Congrats!
- Alix Whitmire
Coolest web 2.0 site I've ever seen & used. I hope things don't derail. Ads will be coming soon, which is fine, but.... then what 's next? Please no quizzes!
- Ben Hanten
Who would have thought that after Facebook were shamelessly being "inspired" by FriendFeed, the inevitable would have happened?
- Tyson Key
I'm pissed off. I wan to throw away the whole Internet :
- DarkBls
Congrats!
- Moushumi Kabir
Congrats guys. :)
- Meryn Stol
Congratulations. This is awesome for you and for Facebook.
- Mike Sego
mommy?
- Josh Haley
Hey guys, keep in mind that Facebook is blocked in workplaces across the nation. 250 million casual users commenting about last night's party does not intelligent conversation make.
- Hector
FFail
- rael
What will happen to my 92 subscribers?
- Zachary TG
yes you have just failed at failing, no it is not a double negative.
- Bahriye
Tragic.
- Shannon
I really can't see how FB would buy FF only to shut it down. There are way too many innovations and features FF has that FB honestly needs. I'm looking forward.
- Harry Wolff
here come the comments
- Zachary TG
Congrats? Everybody who's saying Congrats doesn't know what he's saying. Go to hell.
- Zio Bonino
Yeah, quizzes are EVIL!
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Wow.
- Zachary TG
Oh, this does not make me happy. Not at all! I've stayed off of Facebook intentionally and FriendFeed is my favorite social network. This is like when the Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees. :>(
- Larry Hawes
i have stopped using FB for the most part and liked FF alot more. now FF will go the way of FB. screwed again.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Congratulations. Enjoy the new challenges of acquisition, and I'm looking forward to the result!
- Wade Dorrell
Berge Gazen beat your score in Mafia Wars
- Berge Gazen
Feedface or Facefeed?
- Fee501st
FUCK THAT ! [Anyways good job guys ^^]
- TiTi
Enjoy your fat paychecks, guys. You've sold us out.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Bravo Bret! Been following your successes ever since we had the opportunity to work together on the YellowPages.ca / Google Maps Canada deal. Congrats!
- Sebastien
I wished it was Google or even Yahoo!, instead...
- Tyson Key
i really hope ff stays as it is. fb is kinder carder while ff is a great tool.
- jkkmobile
Facefucked or Fuckfeed?
- Matthew DeVries
Not sure what to make of this. It could eiter be a big win or a huge fail.
- dorn
It could have been Microsoft, which would have been worse for everyone. :(
- Tyson Key
Can I take this opportunity to say I HATE facebook?
- Alex Scrivener
seems the only ppl happy here are the ones in the biz or who stand to profit from the merger.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
I guess we should get ready to get poked by our supposed friends and have various shit thrown at us? Plus 5,000 requests by apps that nearly all suck.
- Joey Gibson
There is zero way this could have been a win for anyone, but the now rich founders.
- Matthew DeVries
duh
- aybars badur
I HATE facebook
- Pedram
this is simply awful.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
If I have to go to FB to use FF then it's a lost cause
- Randy Pollock
Painful. And apparently I completely misunderstood what FF was trying to accomplish both technically and as an organization. I guess Facebook must have dangled a pretty big bag of money in front of them.
- Ken Sheppardson
FriendFeed is Dead! Long Live FriendFeed! :/
- Tyson Key
Awesome. Please fix Facebook email :) http://fudge.org/too-muc...
- Jay Cuthrell
Facebook is going to acquire the web!
- l'Ego di Gigi
To me, FriendFeed is like Porsche and Facebook a Kia. I'm curious to see which will become which..
- Moushumi Kabir
Oh noes!
- Burcu Dogan
Congrats Bret!
- Robin Dindayal
I will reserve judgement, i don't like or use FB but if FF maintains it's current goodness i don't care who cuts the checks.
- Steve C
I hope this doesn't turn into an APP filled hunk of crap. I love FriendFeed, it was the untouched gem of microblogging. I don't want Mafia Wars invited in my FriendFeed!!! Congrats on the sale though.
- Jay Farmington
Where's the "dislike" option?
- Gregor Morrill
+1 Gregor
- Tyson Key
accipicchia che pessima notizia
- massimo mantellini
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE!!! -_-
- Bahriye
I just realized this is like when K-mart bought Sears ...
- DarknessFalls
/ponders the meaning of "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being."
- Philipp Lenssen
And I will officially be leaving FriendFeed today.
- Michael Forian
omg
- John μller
@Philipp: until the new masters start flexing their muscles and bringing in their own people to enforce their own vision.
- Joe Silence is not Santa
Such great news!
- Steve Rubel
Not sure what to think of this.
- Matthew Speicher
where is dislike button ?
- Osman Üngür
OMG!
- Zac Bowling
now where did I put my twitter password
- Randy Pollock
big mistake :((
- emresezgin
I suppose it will be called FriendFace? http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Phil Harrison
Congratulations, guys!!!!!!!!!
- Jess Lee
Oh. Hell. No.
- CannonGod
Oh My God! They Killed FriendFeed!
- Tyson Key
so the (once)new facebook homepage was actually the tip of the iceberg?
- Onur Cengiz
It's a win/win! congrats all.
- Alan Le
Time to roll your own Frienfeed clone.
- Fırat Can Başarır
Congrats to you.
- Evan Travers
Congratulations. I look forward to seeing what this new partnership means for users.
- Aren Grimshaw
FF will surely be integrated into FB at some point?
- Kol Tregaskes
damn Ken is spot on! +1000 Ken!
- vijay
not good.
- Jacque
Oh. My. Gosh.
- Enrico Lamperti
Facebook obviously liked FriendFeed a long time ago. Why would they have copied so many features (feed item comments and the "Like" action, to name a couple) otherwise? It was only logical for this to happen eventually. Doesn't mean I like it, but acquisition is part of the game. I have the same feeling I did when SocialThing! was acquired by AOL, though.
- Voyagerfan5761
"Relationship Status: It's complicated" comes to mind. ;)
- Tyson Key
Wow, I finally sign up, and read this. This could end up being a very bad thing for FF fans: "Your FriendFeed friend just signed up on this poll, would you like to too?"
- Brian Bommarito
sad...
- Marvin
Congrats guys. And thanks for your continuos effort in helping promote and integrate web services, like mine, Wakoopa. That's awesome and I hope FB gets better because of it.
- Robert Gaal
This will give FriedFeed the attention it deserves. Otherwise it would have been a geek thing forever.
- Michael Netsch
Will there be a super poke feature launched tomorrow?
- Matthew DeVries
aw, this sux!! Congrats to the Friendfeed team though!
- acedanger
please don't merge logins!!! please
- earlyadopter
They are deceived when they suffer themselves to be drawn after the image of things, without seeking for the true reason of them.
- The Complex Days
I hope it works OK to you guys!
- Rodrigo Jaroszewski
+1 Netsch - I still like FF more but this finally legitimizes FF to the mainstream.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Friend request una beata fava. Pecunia non olet.
- Federico Bolsoman
Yeah, I really can't wait to see what value the Ashton Kutchers and Oprahs of the world have to add to FriendFeed.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Please tell me this is a delayed April Fools' Day joke.
- Rochelle
Facebook & FriendFeed: don't cross the lifestreams! D:<
- CannonGod
I guess this means I'll have toget a facebook account after all.... Hope the API stays up and running....
- Roberto Bonini
"Were rich B!tch!" - Chappelle
- adolfo foronda
Another good thing: This ups the bar for Wave.
- Wade Dorrell
What a bunch of greedy assholes.
- Zio Bonino
So ?
- Ercan Bülbül
Does this mean that we'll be seeing an influx of webcam spammers, a la Twitter? Along with abolishment of the rooms feature, crappification of the search feature, and more "privacy features" that really just put more nails in the openness coffin?
- Tyson Key
:(
- Pavlo Zahozhenko
Some people will do whatever their friends request........
- Michael Muller
I really don't see why people would be anything but excited about this Facebook freindfeed deal. Great news as far as I am concerned. The Friend feed team is going to go over facebook and make it that much easier to connect, share... isn't that what the social web is about?
- Kevin Murray
I know a lot of people who use Facebook and enjoy it and that's fair enough. It's just not my cup of tea. The chaps from Friendfeed will get rich and the technology will get absorbed in Facebook but I can't see Friendfeed continuing in anything like it's present form.
- Paul Nash
Don't be so negative, something good might eventually come of this...
- Tarmo Aidantausta
The End.
- Kaan Ertürk
Congrats! I know you all must be crazy excited right now.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
chance for FriendFeed to become more mainstream... congrats FriendFeed team!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Nothing could make me happier than if they integrated the good tools from FriendFeed into Facebook, which is where all my friends are. So a big "yay!" from me.
- Ian Betteridge
happy for you guys, but not for all of us
- Flavio
congratulations. this is going to be interesting.
- Dave Beckett
I think I preferred the non-mainstream version of FriendFeed...
- Tyson Key
I'm turning on my black shirt, my black trouser, my black socks, my black shoes. Although I probably must be happy for you.
- Ton Zijp
NASTY NASTY BAD BAD. But we'll see...
- Daniel Morgan
Game over.
- stark
yeah removing feed also works.
- Bahriye
Reminds me so much of Last.fm fall...
- Marcos
Given that the FriendFeed team has never been anything but awesome & respectful of its community, I think it's unfair for people to assume that the Facebook acquisition is going to change that.
- Jess Lee
Why in god's name are we flying over this shark?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
- Matthew DeVries
Facebook is like a giant who listens to nobody. Please keep your attitude but I don't think you will be able to do so.
- Burak "cyrus" Bayburtlu
Noooooooo......
- Sung W. Lim
yeahhh
- Çağrı Burak
NO
- Cristian Conti
Congrats! That sucks.
- Rutger Blom
Where is that evidence Jess?
- Matthew DeVries
I don't know, Like it? or dislike it?
- Ömer Balamir
What happens to all the content that we've created and imported here, and the associated metadata? Will all that disappear into the ether?
- Tyson Key
If the FriendFeed guys can make FaceBook useful and responsive again, this seems like a pretty positive step!
- Robin Barooah
Robin, the Facebook users don't want that I'm afraid.
- Rutger Blom
I have big loss of data concerns. See http://ff.im/6pHjo Is there any way to archive all my FriendFeed posts, likes, comments, and pictures (friendfeed-media.com) off-line? Can some Archive.org-like snapshots of FriendFeed be made (Once a month starting Sept 2009)? I'd like to see the cross-links between my posts & other people's posts, even in 2020. -
- Mitchell Tsai
Mitchell: the FriendFeed site is not shutting down. Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users.
- Bret Taylor
I just overheard a coworker mention FriendFeed. This is how the world ends...
- CannonGod
kafa sayımı yapıp köyü satan ağalar geldi aklıma
- Alper Ömer Esin
Then provide us with a way to easily make a back-up of all of our posts and all of the posts we have Liked and Commented on.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want it to be handed off to Facebook.
- Zio Bonino
Near term future?
- Kol Tregaskes
I don't see good things coming from this. Although I like Facebook, I liked Friendfeed more. Partly because of the environment and the smallness of it. That is now going to be ruined. So, 10-1 odds that Friendfeed will be no more within a year after it gets intergrated into Facebook?
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I doubt it Robin. Bret can only give us assurances about the "near future." Here's what I think will happen. Just like Twitter acquired Rael Dornfest and his awesome web services, Stikkit and I Want Sandy vanished (and so did he), Facebook will acquire all the talent from Friendfeed, shut this service down and Facebook will continue to suck.
- Jim: Dead Like FF
Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want anything to be handed off to Facebook. And I don't want to lose anything.
- Zio Bonino
Congrats obviously, but im not sure about the feeling,, different user groups which can not integrate but collide.. hope there wont be an huge integration in the future.
- Yunus Tunak
I'm happy for FriendFeed! But, at the same time a bit worried about the future. Hope you guys convince FB to not be evil too.
- Vishal Verma
Let's hope this is like Disney's acquisition of Pixar - wherein the Pixar guys ended up in control of the animation studio...
- Robin Barooah
from IM
Where the f*ck is this option to undo ?
- Laurent
Odd that this thread gets modded?
- Matthew DeVries
I seriously thought this was a joke. Looks like its not. I don't like it, sorry.
- Michael Lynton
Does anyone want to start a bounty to purchase Facebook? ;)
- Tyson Key
Congratulations!
- John Craft
can't be, shouldn't be...
- Kemal
It is! Change is inevitable, my friends.
- Bill Sodeman
Jim, I'm less cynical than you - the FriendFeed founders wouldn't do this just in order to become 'talent' at FaceBook.
- Robin Barooah
So will we be playing FriendFeed Mafia Wars at some point in the future? Ugh.
- Alex Hellstrom
I feel if I should be wearing a black arm band. But I guess when I think about it..............
- Kevin J Hatton
Oh No! I don't like this at all :(
- Peter
WTF! Horrible Bret, this the death of FriendFeed.. you know that right?
- Uncle CW™
I still think Apple will acquire Facebook, Twitter Friendfeed and Google Twitter.
- Thomas Power
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
- Stephen Francoeur
My condolences to all Friendfeeders! RIP!
- Evgeni Leshtanski
AAAAwwwful!
- carolh
I can't believe it! damn! facebook tos will apply to friendfeed too? should i start to move to another service? why anyone would think that facebook public is friendfeed public?! damn! friedfeed was my favorite! I can't understand this move! they want to kill friendfeed or what?
- paula simoes ☃
"I bet I can find 1.000.0000 people who dislike this deal."...Welcome to FriendBook.
- Jacque
Well, huge congraulations to you and your team, you deserve every success. To be honest I had presumed this would happen sooner or later - the only business model cool little startups have is to hope they get bought by someone bigger for their brains and technology. I'm going to be in San Francisco in a couple of weeks and was going to stop by your office to bring you a cake and thank you for a great product - maybe I still will if you're still there and there's still a FriendFeed!
- Alex Lomas
The FF founders must have know this would be a very unpopular move. Most users I know here are not too fond of FB.
- Rutger Blom
damn, damn, damn...
- Kemal
One of the sadest news for Internet and web creativity :(
- DarkBls
Woah woah... This is real?
- Jason Huebel
"Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users" There's a bit of a contradiction in your statement, Bret. Nice try though.
- jcunwired
Now I can break my Internet plan at home.
- DarkBls
Grats Bret and the rest of FF. To all the naysayers... Lets see what happens before we start bitching....
- Rasmus Lauridsen
wow!! dazed and confused!!
- Roberto Arancibia
I don't hate Facebook, but for sharing things Friendfeed is MUCH MUCH better!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I wonder if that Ben Darnell guy who *just* left the Google reader team knew about this beforehand? Wonder what he's thinking now? (http://friendfeed.com/friendf...)
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Just great. I'm certainly not very happy about this. Let's just hope FB doesn't ruin FF. Ugh.
- Elena
Who cares? Nothing's gonna change in our pitiful lifes.
- bluretina
:|
- Amin BZ
This ties in nicely with the fact that you soon will have the opportunity to make your Facebook profiles public and get followers there.
- Michael Netsch
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- лето ближе с каждым днем
Congrats Bret! this is so great! many congrats!!!
- Jason Pollock
That is capitalism for you. Luckely, there still good 'ol usenet.
- Peter
Is it April 1st somewhere in the universe?
- Robert Felty
I don't mean to be negative but there's got to be a win-win logic to each merger&acquisiton. Audience high in only quantity is clearly not a win for friendfeed in the long term by considering its unique selling points. Let's wait and see who will benefit from friendfeed's death now.
- ayca
It's all about the money. I would have payed a couple of dollars each month to use FF.
- Rutger Blom
Seriously, what is this? It's like Bret just announced that he's killed all your mothers or something. It could turn out good, it could turn out bad, but at the end of the day, who cares, it's just a website (I mean honestly, come on). I could see it going either way, but in the near term, this is a pretty big win for the FF team, so congrats guys.
- Chieze Okoye
OMG!
- keso
To be honest, my heart sank a little but I am happy to congratulate you and the team for building such a good brand. Well done.
- Kevin J Hatton
I'm just surprised, that's all. I'm not saying this is a bad thing (it certainly isn't for the owners of FF). I'm willing to sit back and see what happens.
- Jason Huebel
Wow, I specifically use friendfeed b/c it is not facebook. Sounds great for the friendfeed team, but not necessarily for friendfeed users.
- Evan Parker
Born to be sold, like in the old "new economy" era. Remember the late nineties?
- Federico Bolsoman
Sudden desire to check out Strands again... but hey, kudos on the incoming $$ for FF team
- Leslie Poston
This is wisdom. Bracing for Google Wave is a good idea.............
- Kevin J Hatton
this is clearly a talent aquisition... why am i not excited about this? could it be because facebook has been blatantly stealing features from friendfeed shamelessly. Likes were clearly not an original facebook idea...realtime feeds is another i could go on...
- Tate DA FF MVP
While I'm sad, because I suspect this means the best things about FF will disappear or I'll be forced to use FB in some way, if the buyout was for some awesome amount of money, I can't say I blame 'em for taking an offer -- I would.
- Andy Bakun
I came to FriendFeed because I don't like facebook. Now the question is, will facebook become more like friend feed? or will they just take friend feed and turn it into facebook?
- Tom Ray
FF could be a good R&D arm for facebook.
- Andy Bakun
My biggest concern here is that FB has a completely different audience than FF.
- Rutger Blom
Fucking morons. FriendFeed is doomed now. Think logically. Facebook has NO REASON to keep FriendFeed alive. It will simply take FF's best features, suck the life of out of it, then trash FF. Way to go, FirnedFeed, damn.
- Jeremy Buff
Fail.
- Big K
Big Fail!
- OnuRC
This announcement should have been held off until the plans for Friendfeed were known. Regardless, this is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone.
- tollie williams
wtf ?!
- Umut
I need to install "super PUKE" application !
- Bart LePoole
FFail.
- rowlikeagirl
I don't want my FF feed on Facebook :( I use both, but maintain both profiles separate
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
Sigh... Happy for the team if this is what they want, but baffled by the move. The users that are going to leave because of this will make FF a graveyard and the users it gains, well... Hello spam? Sorry, but I don't like it.
- Vince DeGeorge
from iPhone
JEREMY+++++1
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Wow!
- felix
Well, I guess it is time to dismantle my friendfeed. We all know where this is headed. So, so glad I didn't move all my rss feeds from greader to friendfeed like so many cheerleaders suggested.
- Matthew Speicher
Jeremy +1
- F. Batuhan Icoz
so what's next? where should we go?
- Flavio
It's been fun here.
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
Dang, and just as I was starting to get used to how FF works. FF is useful on it's own. I hope this only improves FF's system, rather than having it disappear into Facebook's wake.
- Don Faulkner
My big question to everybody here is this: What are the potential downsides / upsides to this acquisition? I mean on paper I just don't see what the pros OR cons are. I don't care for Facebook but I don't see how them acquiring FF is going to change everything.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
furthermore they are 2 different things: I follow a lot of people here that are not in my facebook list, which is for IRL friends!
- Flavio
I don't know where to go next either. I had just settled down to make imaginary friends for all my non-FF tweeps, etc. now, I'm not sure if I should bother.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
I hope friendfeed continues to operate normally but it does not look good.
- ashish
integrate best features of ff to fb, then try to innovate in fb if possible, then kill ff... that's it, cheers, all the best. grrrr...
- Kemal
niczak has good points. FF & FB aren't exactly competitors, but they aren't orthogonal either. Let's hope FB's smart enough to see the difference and improve both platforms.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Nicholas: The upside for Facebook is they just bought an engineering team that's built many of the feature's Facebook's going to need to stay competitive. The upside for FriendFeed's engineering team is $$$ and the ability to build system for a wider audience. FriendFeed's user base is small enough that it'll either get absorbed into Facebook or move on, and FF will become a footnote on the Internet timeline.
- Ken Sheppardson
Don, I don't think FB wants to maintain two platforms.
- Rutger Blom
first tr.im (heard about it yesterday), now this. I wasn't a heavy tr.im user (yet), but sad to see it go, even if I think url shortening is silly.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
As FB said they're interested in the people and not in the site, what if the community will keep running FF without its current staff?
- Flavio
Congratulations!
- Sam Grover
Flavio, that's not very realistic I'm afraid, but I like the idea.
- Rutger Blom
rutgerblom, I don't expect they do either, thus my angst over this.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
if there's a team willing to do it and money, and if we accept some ads as everywhere else, we could make a new FF without FB
- Flavio
Tony, most likely
- Rutger Blom
read carefully: http://blog.socialthing.com/2009...
- Kemal
I'll have to go with Flavio's position too. Given this news (plus tr.im and who knows who's next), I'd tend to favor community supported or federated services for things like this in the future.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
I am purposely not on facebook because I don't really want to talk to people I have not talked to in 20 years.
- Andy Bakun
God help us
- Johnny
Once again. I'm happy for the FF team. They worked hard and now collect. That's fair. Wonder if they're sitting in a bubble pool drinking champagne while we cry out here ;-)
- Rutger Blom
Congrat Bret!! :))
- Cihan Cepni
trouble is (from my perspective), that the philosophies of the two platforms are at odds. FB wants to bring people to the site and keep them there, while FF is a hub, bringing people in and then sending them back out. (That's part of why it's hard for the newcomer to understand, IMHO.)
- Don Faulkner
from IM
This almost confirms FF will disappear: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Kol Tregaskes
Great point, Don.
- Rutger Blom
+1 Don
- Johnny
Does this mean I can throw someone a sheep on FriendFeed now?
- Pinksy
I sure hope so, Rutger. I glad for their success too. I just hope there's a next best thing out there for us.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Congrats all. Nice work, in spite of any naysaying out there. Keep up the innovation.
- Tomas Remotigue
LOLI FFAIL
- rael
lame.
- andy brudtkuhl
This should be good news for Twitter.
- Rutger Blom
post the picture to failblog...
- Kemal
Quote «Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook. But the Friendfeed team is not being kept whole. Some employees will now report to Cox, others to engineering head Mike Schroepfer. In my opinion that means, long term, the Friendfeed product itself is unlikely to be a big priority.¶ But Facebook is...
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- Philipp Lenssen
+1 Kol for the techcrunch article!
- Don Faulkner
from IM
techcrunch: "Cox agreed, noting that Facebook is focused on being a platform and a service, and not just a destination site." I certainly hope so!
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Brilliant move by both Facebook and friendfeed. Congratulations!!! I have theories of what they have planned, but I doubt you would verify any of them. This is going to go so well with their SocialTV which they have been developing. I'm so happy for you!
- Michael Fidler
Really saddened by this news.
- Doug Beeferman
Noooooooooooooooooooooo!
- LouCypher
I don't see what's so bad about it since no one knows right now what the outcome will be, everyone is just making assumptions that could possibly be wrong..... Might help just sitting back and seeing what happens first before complaining.
- ChaCha Fance
Nooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrghh! I´ve resisted getting a facebook acct for so long...
- Thomas Bøhm
ChaCha, if everybody would do that there would not be much discussion would there? This is part of the fun.
- Rutger Blom
I wonder how the discussion over on facebook would compare to this?
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Drat!
- Gee Ekachai
congrats guys!
- Elad
Don, I doubt there is any discussion going on there. They're too busy throwing quizes at each other.
- Rutger Blom
Congrats, FF! I'm approaching the situation with cautious optimism. A lot of my friends only share stuff via the Facebook wall/feed, so if Facebook is able to make their feed more like the FF feed (i.e. good, instead of sucktacular) through this acquisition, it's mostly a win for me in the end.
- Brian Chang
At least my Feedburner stats might go back to normal again.
- Rutger Blom
/me pokes Rutger. (just getting in practice. ;)
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Where will we go for the FFunderCats, bacon memes, and angry artists fighting over photo reshares now? ;)
- Tyson Key
Don, LOL :-)
- Rutger Blom
If anybody has doubts as to what happens to the FriendFeed community or our stored information here, read this statement from Bret (in this thread) "Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users". Now maybe you can see "whats so bad about it" and curb your optimism. Not good.
- jcunwired
Congrats FF. Fix their live feed situation please.
- Edward Barnieh
@josh: do you think FB will throw away all the crap people use? various quiz, pick 5 and so on?
- Flavio
@jc: our data will not go away in the near future. what will be in few months? in a year?
- Flavio
Let's see if you can do a bit better than just not being evil this time around.
- Tim Tyler
Wooohooo!!, seems like we are being sent back to "good" old Facebook. Congrats Bret!!
- Danli
Looks like I'm going to repeat the same thing many others did. My first reaction was "Oh my..." I have refused to join Facebook due to its philosophy while I have been with FriendFeed from the beginning for its. I'm sad and somewhat apprehensive.
- Sean Leather
Congrats. I suppose this means the end of FriendFeed but hopefully a better Facebook.
- Harry Toon
Hmm. Interesting.
- Ralf Becker
Add me to the fearful group.
- beersage
Please say that facebook.com will be shutting down, and the combined company will still be called FriendFeed... I bet it won't happen, though.
- Tyson Key
"Regarding FB/FF - Here's how it's [probably] going to work. You will most likely have an account merge, all of the services FriendFeed supports will now be aggregated on Facebook, and all of your FriendFeed friends will be in a "list" on Facebook. The FF Groups will become Facebook Groups. The FF lists will become Facebook Lists." http://ff.im/6pNxq
- Ozgur Uckan
Nothing like an early retirement payout :)
- Owen Greaves
Congrat Bret
- Nimaa
Panic attack. Congratulations, however! :)
- Лосось норвежской выделки
Congratulations Bret. For me this merger makes a lot of sense. Facebook will provide the "quantity" of users, which friendfeed deserves :).
- Karthick R
:(
- goodmachine
FriendFeed + Facebook... Oh noes FriendFace is coming (http://www.youtube.com/watch...)! Now sorry for that link, and seriously, thanks for your work, guys. Please don't let the spirit of FriendFeed to be blown away =)
- Anton
СУКИ-СУКИ-СУКИ!!!!
- Viktor
hey, that is great guys! interested to see how you integrate.
- Brian Walsh
Mind blown. Never expected this. I'm also disappointed, yet optimistic at the same time.
- Angus Burton
Kinda curious to see how this will all pan out...although i wouldnt want the friendfeed stuff just integrated into facebook. I feel like im among a group of people who i genuinely share interests with here...dont want to lost that.
- Cassidy
Best case: Facebook will continue to support and develop FriendFeed. Worst case: this is great news for Amplifeeder.
- David Gaw
aieeeeeeeeeee
- Richard Akerman
FAIL. Facebook is the new myspace, and now friendfeed will become a part of that BS. Can't say I'm too surprised because eventually we all sell out. BTW I don't see friendfeed lasting more than the rest of this year, if that. The good news is that we can all be subjected to add 'Are you related to a monkey?' and Blackjack apps while having annoying personal ads on our profile pages. Fuck this shit.
- Tomy Thomson
Well done, well deserved, I hope FB's means and infrastructures empower your guys to even better things. But if quizzes appear in "my" friendfeed, evil things will haunt you and your descendents for 3 generations.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
:(
- Eph Zero
Well done Bret!
- Alemsah Ozturk
♪ ♪ This is the end.... beautiful friends ♪ ♪
- All for design
Well, I don't see the point of sticking around here if I have accounts in both and this is going to get swallowed whole into Facebook anyways. Put simply, goodbye.
- Micah Collard
It was fun while it lasted.
- Mr. Gunn
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! This place will be just like twitter...
- The Count Rob
Congrats to the FF team - you've built a wonderful product!
- Michael Nielsen
Whattttttttttttttttttttt???
- Nibi
The social community that has been behind FriendFeed creators have built a wonderful product. Only problem is, we don't have Zuck's checkbook :(
- jcunwired
friendfeed is a beautiful product, only god knows what facebrook will do to it. Hopefully the ability to upload files (such as mp3s) will not be removed. Zuck is a tool.
- Nibi
Congratulations. I'm sorry to say that I don't plan to move with you.
- Lars Juhl Jensen
I don't like this....
- Zeki Pehlivan
"Like" to follow this thread. Not because I like what happened. I'm horrified. FF could disappear now.
- Kamilah Gill
Same here, Kamilah.
- Tyson Key
If FriendFeed had invented the "don't like" button, today would have been the day to press it.
- Vishal Verma
and I just bought BuddyFeed for my iPhone this weekend. :(
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Oh, joy, Facebook's privacy policy is upon us!
- Joris
WTF?? NOOOOO!!! Why do such good things have to be ruined by greed? Screw Facebook, and goodbye Friendfeed.
- Jason R. Hunter
congratulations!
- Loic Le Meur
Facebook is lucky to have such a talented group of people ... Congratulations FriendFeed!
- Rob Kurrus
doesn't look like a bad joke, better be for the good then, but... Well congrats anyway guys, you did something AWESOME now let's see where Mark takes it
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
That's too bad. Liked the openness if FriendFeed, and the lack crap that is on Facebook. Once FriendFeed dies, it will be Twitter only.
- Mike D.
Congrats, but concerned that FriendFeed and its tools may disappear. Merging the tools with Facebook seems impossible.
- Mike Reynolds
Congrats guys (and gals) !
- Benjy Weinberger
So, what does the acquisition of FriendFeed by Facebook mean to us, users of both websites: Can I make a friend request from FriendFeed, and be approved for both, on one click
- Reyna Carlos
Exciting news guys. I am actually looking forward to your collaboration with / work for FB. No matter what people may or may not like about FB, it does succeed in reaching a more "diverse" audience compared to most other Web 2.0/social web companies. Paired with your team's excellence in realizing features that succeed in pleasing the geekiest of Web 2.0 affine individuals, I think you are steering towards exciting waters :)
- Mustafa K. Isik
*heart sinks* actually a bit of shock - I think that Facebook will leave Friendfeed as-is but I don't think there is hope for future innovation in Friendfeed since their best superstar team members will be pulled onto 'more important' Facebook issues...
- Pon
And the metastasizing, walled-garden that is Facebook, continues to eat the Web. Bring on Google Wave.
- Christopher A Carr
:-) + :-( very happy for the team, huge achievement, hoping to see export of innovation but not a shut down of this unique community and location
- Majento
There goes FriendFeed down the toilet. well I WAS having a good day. until hearing this crap!
- Scratch5150
Congratulations, and best wishes for your future together! :-)
- Ruchira S. Datta
Wow, I was beginning to use Friendfeed as my defacto social site...Facebook is more for real life friends. They'll just take what makes Friendfeed great, add it to Facebook and slowly kill this site.
- Manuel Mas
What is the big deal? I think it'll make FF bigger and better. You should be happy about that!
- orionstarr
Somebody has to got pay for it.
- orionstarr
I am disappointed. I don't want to have to go to Facebook to do what i do here. I can not imagine they will port over all the features we enjoy here. We lose a lot for only a slight benefit to Facebook.
- Robert
It could be worse, myspace could've bought them lol...
- orionstarr
Awful news for users but congratulations to you guys. Ideally, FB will run FF as a distinct service but I'm not hopeful. I don't want the diversity and noise that facebook brings - people doing quizzes on which movie star they resemble and playing silly games. I also wanted to keep my day to day social activity distinct from the targeted information and discussion I use FF for.
- Rajit
Only just started taking a serious look at FF after hearing acquisition by FB. Sounds like I'm laggard rather than a leader in use of web 2.0
- ManojRanaweera
I think how Pon said it is what I'm feeling: *heart sinks*.
- Andy Bakun
Congratulations, i am really happy for you guys!! :)
- Mona Nomura
I'm not a Facebook fan, but can't begrudge the FF gang their chance to reap the rewards for all their hard work. However, it would be a shame if FB ruins the good thing we all have going here.
- Ken Morley
So what now? a name change too? FriendFace? FeedBook? FaceFeed? god Facebook really sucks. oh well. Adds anyone?
- Scratch5150
Congrats to the FF team... I hope the service doesn't disappear into a fold of light and heat.
- Brandon
if all the things that make FF great are brought to FB then I'll be happy to use it
- Mike Chelen
The community won't be there. Been on FB longer than any other, don't have nearly the relationship or sense of community there that I do here or on Twitter.
- Karoli
Karoli: that is due to the effectiveness of the FF platform and interface, which help to join conversations and find interesting people more so than FB does
- Mike Chelen
Mike: I suspect that FB wants FF for the search possibilities, not the community-building aspects. But we'll see.
- Karoli
i guess congrats are in order, but I'm going to now go and remove everything I have that feeds into FF, and I have to ask -- do I have any rights over my archive? I have a private feed, and I have no interest in offering up my lifestream to the FaceBook data-miners. I hope the FF folks get what they hope for out of the deal, but my FriendFeed experience has been effectively killed.
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I just learned about the FF acquisition by Facebook - WOW~! Congratulations Bret, Paul and FF team!! holy cow ........Mooooooooo! Where's the FF Acquisition Party? :)
- Susan Beebe
Friendfeed after Facebook http://ff.im/6q5EY
- Ozgur Uckan
RT @alirizaesin FriendFeed, R.I.P. Home tweet home!..
- Ozgur Uckan
Congrats to facebook. Now, Twitter is the best.
- Ebru Baranseli
Congratulations to the FriendFeed guys on the Facebook Acquisition. Not a big fan of Facebook, so I hope my favorite Uber Aggregator, Realtime Social, Microblogging site of awesomeness is not entirely absorbed into the Facebook infrastructure. I wait with baited breath to hear what "normally for the time being" means ;).
- Tom Horn
Can I now have comments propagate in both directions as far as Facebook/Friendfeed is concerned?
- Piaw Na
*checks date*. Damn .. not April 1st, must be for real. While I'm happy for the FF team, since I guess this is what they wanted (congrats guys!), I can't help but think this is the beginning of the end for a great service and a vibrant community. There are reasons I don't spend any time on Facebook and do spend lots of time on FF, and some kind of "FF integrated into Facebook" just won't cut it. I hope this service will live on for at least a few more years.
- Andrew Perry
Gratz to the FF team but as a user I'm not completely happy. In short, I like the FF team/product much more than I like the FB team/product. Best of luck to all.
- timepilot
Dang! I've killed another site! Sorry guys... FF was doing fine until I started coming here again! Same with Pownce! Went there and liked it... went underground for a spell... came back and still liked it, so I stayed. A few months later... BOOM! I have the touch! (I'm thinking I'll start devoting a lot of time to Twitter... maybe I can kill that one, too!)
- Mark "DerBingle" J
Все, блядь, пиздец!
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
WOW - very happy for all of you :-)
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Bret, congrats on the acquisition. You guys put in a lot of hard work to create this community. I just hope you learned the mistakes Pownce made, Jaiku etc, and ensured that you didn't sell out your community, but that you helped it evolve into something as great as this into something better. Good luck in future endeavors!
- Mike Lewis
Oh yeah? Ok: take tour money and go to the hell. :-(((
- Claude LaFrenière
Yay for you guys, I mean that seriously, I 'like' what this means for you personally, but -1000000 cool points for doing it with FB. Sad day.
- Threepwood
Karoli: FF search is so useful because it is integrated with all the other great features that help to find relevant content. if FB wants to have a similar capability, they must also develop the underlying architecture.
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Sucks big time.
- Drea
Sadness
- Yasin Jason
I can't believe this happened
- Johnny
Suggested name: FailFriend. :-(((
- Claude LaFrenière
Friend facebooks feed (FFF)
- Filiz Koyuncu
«Experience shows that those who never trust anyone will never be disappointed.» Leonardo da Vinci
- Claude LaFrenière
So what exactly is going to happen? Is FF eventually going to disappear? Will it merge into the Facebook interface? Please don't do that
- Ethan
Gimme my OPML export
- Sriks7
Money is the root of all evil
- Shakeel Mahate
shakeel, the reasons for friendfeed to join facebook are probably about other things besides money, since many of the FF staff left high-paying jobs to join in the first place
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Well I've thought about it, and I'll stick around until I start seeing that crappy Facebook logo, I only have 71 subscribers here, I hate to do it but I'll probably scrap the whole thing and start over somewhere else. still can't believe that shit.
- Scratch5150
Congrats, team! It's bittersweet, though.
- Anne Bouey
So now we will have FriendFeed blocked at work too. Darn.
- Mark Scrimshire
"Your data will not go away any time in the near term future" is not exactly inspiring for the long term for those of us who came here to escape Facebook for a) it's walled garden and b) privacy concerns. Nice for the Founders to make a pile of cash but for the many of us, it feels like we got sold down the river. Sad.
- Sally Church
This is tragic. Tragic. Tragic.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
cacarr: updates for FB have progressed rapidly in the past, count how many months since new features such as api calls and site redesigns have have been implemented
- Mike Chelen
from IM
I can't believe it either. I feel as if — for the moment — I am lost in the wilderness, adrift.
- roamin
Congratulation to the FF team! You guys deserves this. I just hope that Facebook does not change the directions of FF.
- Vinko
congrats, I'm happy for friendfeed...
- amelia arapoff
Congrats you guys, well deserved.
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
Congrats Bret! Hope the transition goes smoothly for you guys.
- Cristo
I hope this means better integration: liking here will auto-like on fb and such :D if that's the case, I won't mind the ads *wink* *wink*
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
Franc, cant stand facebook ads in their current format, hope they will be fixed eventually :P
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Grats, dont spend it all in one place.....
- Robert Higgins
congrads. I think it will be good for BOTH companies.
- Logan Lindquist
boo.
- kelly
The Borg has struck. Alas. Prepare to be assimilated. (Will FB add my FF subscriptions to my FB friends list?)
- Dennis Jernberg
Boo
- Amit Morson
Logan: What do you mean by "both" companies?
- Christopher A Carr
Now that you guys have $$$ you should swap out the not so very pleasing default avatar!
- See-ming Lee 李思明 SML
Hope you guys enjoy your new jobs. Meanwhile we get to watch a great alternative to Facebook with a promising future go down the tubes. A really sad and unfortunate day.
- Todd Holmes
BOO! Hiss! Mondays really do suck.
- Dale
Congratulations to all the FriendFeed team. I hope you'll be able to keep the FriendFeed spirit up at Facebook. Kudos for all the great work you've been doing.
- Paul Papadimitriou
Congrats and good luck..
- Can Koklu
Thanks for all the fish. Saving the so long... for now.
- abacab
Goodbye FF, it was wonderful..
- Francesco Cugurra
I use FriendFeed and Facebook so it would be awesome to see FF features in Facebook. Congratulations!
- krzychukula
from IM
judging by the nearly 600 comments as i type this, including my own earlier one, FF could use a Don't Like button as well. or would, if we were going to be using it much longer.
- kelly
Nice, i like to wish you all the best for your new job (and it's really hard, i know). I'm happy, but... don't let die FF!!
- Seo (ignobile) Guru
Hope FriendFeed remains open. Love the spirit of FF
- Bernaldo Barrena
Seriously, what a coincidence! Just on Saturday I claimed to be both twitter- and facebook-free. I loved FF product and personally helped to bring at least a dozen of my friends into the community. I'll stick around for a while though.
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
This deal makes sense, now fb developers do not need to figure out how ff does it because they can just ask! Congrats facebook and ff!
- Garin Kilpatrick
I suppose Facebook had to do it, with Twitter and Google Wave as competitor...
- Alexander Kruel
обычные дела. http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- ǝuǝƃnǝ
Congratulations Friendfeed :D
- paniaguai
Ok. I'll quit friendfeed, so. Goodbye. Ciao
- valerio fiandra
from iPhone
I am noticing a lot of people going to re-esumate their lifestream.fm account now!
- Flavio
I don't think FB acquiring FF is bad. But I don't think it's good either. We'll see. :-) In the meantime, keep up the good work!
- Alexander Gieg
Oh shit. Love FF, hate FB. I'll NEVER, EVER merge my two accounts. I'd rather unsub from both than merging. I'll wait for the developments, and in the meantime look for an alternative.
- Alliandre (la Ippe)
How long until ex-FriendFeed employees start jumping ship from Facebook? I wonder...
- Tyson Key
Thomas Power still believes that Facebook/FF/Linkedin (2010) will be acquired by Apple (2011) and this is a transitional acquisition in the SN market cycle. The world is shifting to Mac, iTunes, iPhones and FB own the next generation. Apple have $29bn of cash on deposit price is not an issue. Google must jump for twitter while MS fiddle in the sticks with Yahoo. BillG will be back at the MS helm 2012.
- Penny Power
:( Happy for FF people, sad for the service. Was going to move from fb to ff this week..
- Martynas
congrats!
- Ronald
thts good!so i can workin both in my Fb online next
- Arini dewi muchtaram
Flavio: never heard of lifestream.fm before, but I'm going to go check it out. I'll reiterate, though, that I'm now shy of any service like this, since it can disappear just as it's getting good. I heard about sweetcron.com last night (via http://ff.im/6pR2w). Maybe it's time to move from centralized to distributed again.
- Don Faulkner
Just finished setting up my lifestream.fm at http://lifestream.fm/dfaulkner. Lifestream does what it says, and no more. FF's search blows lifestream away. FF is more flexible about adding source feeds, but lifestream does fine without the flexibility I suppose. FF still wins, or would, if I thought it would be sticking around. :P
- Don Faulkner
Must See - Hitler blows up over Facebook / FriendFeed - http://friendfeed.com/dffrnt...
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Dave, I'm not happy. That video gave me some much needed comic relief .. after waking up to this news.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
good for you, bad for us
- Zachary Earl Strader
I also hate facebook, not because of their silly quizzes and pokes, but because I suspect they would like to maintain massive user base as the determining factor in choosing a social network. I would love to switch to orkut as I use so many other google services, but I can't because nobody else does. That should not be my criteria.... I thought friendfeed would try to make social networks work together.
- Ru Viljoen
I don't understand why everyone is so negative about the situation?
- orionstarr
@orionstarr - it's like Starbucks buying your neighborhood coffee shop and saying it still cares about the customers. You know it's just not going to be the same as what you've come to love.
- Robin Barooah
Presumably FF will go on the back burner - and the team will try and "fix" Facebook.
- Tim Tyler
sad, sad, sad.
- scott willeke
Congratulations! That's huge. I hope all is well.
- Juan Bruce
bad bad bad
- kakilang
bye bye friendfeed!
- Jonathan Crossland
Why-eee!!! ??? What next?
- Wayne Lewis
I've watched Facebook morph from a relatively organised and well implemented social networking tool into the hulking mess it is now - and I really, really hope that a similar thing doesn't happen here with the inevitable changes this will bring about.
- Leslie Moore
Come on guys, out with the long-term game plan, this is tedious.
- Andrew Eglinton
NOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I mean Cool.
- sofarsoShawn
Teach Facebook how to be FriendFeed. Let the small but fast teach the big but slow. Don't forget what Paul says - don’t be evil.
- whatidiscover
Nice idea: The Regent Theatre Otago, New Zealand hosts an annual 24 hour book sale to fund raise for the upkeep of the venue. People donate books throughout the year then in May the stage is transformed into a huge book store. Would love to see a London theatre pick this idea up. (http://www.regenttheatre.co.nz/contrib...)
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Only thing I'm wondering is where on earth do they store all those books?
- Andrew Eglinton
A transcript. A few Seconds from a popular DJ...
"That's Patty Baby and that's the girl with the dancing feet and that's Freddy Cannon there on the David Mickie Show in the night time ooohbah scuba-doo how are you booboo. Next we'll be Swinging on a Star and sssshhhwwoooo and sliding on a moonbeam. Waaaaa how about that . . . one of the goodest guys with you . . . this is lovable kissable D.M. in the p.m. at 22 minutes past nine o'clock there, aahhrightie, we're gonna have a Hitline, all you have to do is call WAlnut 5-1151, WAlnut 5-1151, tell them what number it is on the Hitline." (McLuhan - Understanding Media)
- Andrew Eglinton
Theatre critics removed from Tony awards committee. Philadelphia-based critic Wendy Rosenfield has the story: http://www.artsjournal.com/dramaqu...
Fire fueled with this comment by Prof. Tsao "Not only should critics be banned from voting for awards, they should have to apply to come see plays, and each critic should be allowed in on a case by case basis."
- Andrew Eglinton
Fwd: Looking forward to Cate Blanchett in STC's prodn of Streetcar Named Desire next month. #theatre Woohoo, a weekend in Sydney. (via http://friendfeed.com/dramagi...)
Ah Cate Blanchett, definitely one of my favourite screen actresses (The Man Who Cried Last anyone?), never seen her on stage.
- Andrew Eglinton
Certainly she's done more screen work during her career, but has an excellent stage reputation. As I recall, her first major professional role was opposite Geoffrey Rush in 'Oleanna' when she was fresh out of NIDA. You might like to look out for a DVD called 'In the Company of Actors' which traces the restaging of the STC production of 'Hedda Gabler' which was heading to the...
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- Kate Foy
Interesting article in the Guardian on current fascination with young playwrights: http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage...
Andrew Eglinton liked this
It's about giving young writers support and a toehold, and why not? As to whether it's 'taking away' support from mid-career writers ... well, here we go again with the economic 'pie' allocated to the arts - there's apparently not enough to go round. I remember hearing this same sort of thing in the 70s when it was women who were being 'favoured.'
- Kate Foy
When I was a teen, I used to walk the Rue St Catherine in Bordeaux with a friend of mine. It's a beautiful 2 mile pedestrian street that cuts through the city centre. We'd encounter moments of tension and rivalry with other teens along the way. My friend and I would often joke that the only way to avoid confrontation would be to assemble a group of friends, one friend from each country...
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- Andrew Eglinton
My reading of this article wasn't that we should discourage support of young writers but that we should instead make it support of new writers - whatever their age. It rang a bell with me because I started writing in my mid-thirties. My first play was ineligible for many first play competitions because of my age. I agreed with the point in the article about many playwrights starting...
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- Katherine Lyall-Watson
Yes, I see your point Katherine. Ultimately it is about support, about gaining confidence and experience as a writer, having the time and resources to experiment, to take risks, but also (if there's an element of mentoring involved), to be inspired.
- Andrew Eglinton
LANjackal to LANjackal's feed, Twitter, The Facebook Experience, RWW: The Future of Tech, building43, TheNextWeb Forum
Marines Ban Twitter, MySpace, Facebook - http://www.wired.com/dangerr...
Clint McManaman, k00pa, Jannifer @wordsforliving and 15 other people liked this
"The U.S. Marine Corps has banned Twitter, Facebook, MySpace and other social media sites from its networks, effective immediately."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
What about FriendFeed?
- Carlton Prest
noooo!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
^Exactly. Many of our enlisted men and women are actually really just boys and girls in their teens to mid 20s. I can't imagine how terrible this is gonna be for their morale. Between this, Veterans Hospital health scandals and other issues, I can't help but feel sometimes that we're the only country that asks our fighters to die for us and the kicks 'em in the face when they're done
- LANjackal
from IM
i guess they'll have to stick with plain old email and IM for contacting their friends and loved ones... don't you wish they had these tools back in the revolutionary war? and the civil war? where's historical tweet when you need it?
- Chris Heath
The picture shows a rugged computer built to military specifications ;) but this is a bad idea banning twitter etc.
- TrafficBug
In 2003, I connected with a few USMC Officers almost immediately following their deployment. For an entire year, I engaged in daily conversations with them without fail. I was determined to continue the almost vigil until they were brought back safely. They came home. We still maintain our friendships. Did I help them get through each day? Did their ability to stay connected to the US and to those who they care about help in anyway? Ask any soldier and I'm sure you'll receive similar answers.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
The policy on net comms has gone back and forth and everything in between for a decade plus now. The DoD seems to have a difficult time figuring it out, which is sadder when one considers the origins of the internet...
- Michael W. May
++ MWM
- vijay
They'll probably open up their own system within AKO (Army Knowledge Online). Some of the tools that the military is using, like CompanyCommand, are basically the same as the tools used on the general net, but hidden behind the military's firewall. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Andrew Leyden
I've got an AKO account as a retiree. It's good enough for military work, but it leaves what matters, eg, family, friends, that real world connection Michele mentions above, out in the cold.
- Michael W. May
Anyone else find it interesting that it is only this military branch that is banning the social media networks? Why not all branches or no branches by DoD directive?
- Walt Ruppar
DoD is reviewing it, has been expected to change it (yet again) for a week or so. I was surprised the Corps did it before the DoD as a whole.
- Michael W. May
Why would the Marines ban these things?
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
security
- chaz2b
It isn't necessarily that the USMC considers it's Marines incapable of self-control - it has plenty of experience dealing with that with just a normal telephone conversation. One aspect of why these networks are being banned/controlled is that they are adding on more location aware and metadata collecting services - so the Marine could easily give up their location without even being aware.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
also, its an avenue to diss superiors, and thats already been an issue (superiors catching it and discipling)
- chaz2b
I would be concerned if a Marine had the time to update his or her Facebook status multiple times a day or was tweeting on a regular basis. I understand that staying connected is important for moral and peace of mind, but these are all new forms of instant communication. It's not like phone calls and email are being banned. I'm pretty sure in the movies they show soldiers that had to write letters. Those toke days to arrive!
- Heather
ponders if thats a pun, "toke" or if freud would be celibrating a field day, :/ (or just a chronic mispeller like i, :(
- chaz2b
It's probably a Security issue! The might give away a position etc. Enemy uses Social Media as well!
- Mick Gill
FUCK Marines!
- k00pa
Who protects the Marines?
- Andrew Eglinton
For a minute there I thought you might have said God.
- Andrew Eglinton
Don't other marines protect marines?
- Chris Heath
So I wonder why the USMC feels the need to censor when the DoD hasn't finished their decision yet? I would agree for security purposes, however many of our troops rely on social sites like FB to stay in touch with loved ones. Military personel should be trained and well know better than to post info they should not be talking about. If there are troops in our military that don't know...
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- Walt Ruppar
from iPhone
Note: Facebook is up, but there r a little bit of technical issues w/commenting & taking longer 2 processing through. Otherwise Facebook is fine.
- polou/indigo_bow
Fr: mashable: http://mashable.com/2009...
- polou/indigo_bow
Twitter team issues a shocking new statement: http://is.gd/24YKt
- Andrew Eglinton
LiveJournal is up now
- polou/indigo_bow
DDoS is the reason that may take a while 2 resolve yikes!
- polou/indigo_bow
Twitter is up now, for more read: http://status.twitter.com/post...
- polou/indigo_bow
more reasons on Twitter's DDoS: Wired.com- http://www.wired.com/epicent...
- polou/indigo_bow
Twitter crippled by denial-of-service attack - http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
Nilesh, Lasse Johnsen and Ruben Sanchez liked this
"Twitter was inaccessible for several hours on Thursday morning, followed by a period of slowness and sporadic timeouts (and more outright downtime). The company is blaming an "ongoing" denial-of-service (DOS) attack but has not said anything further."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
I'll be seriously bummed if Twitter doesn't go back up today.
- Brodie Beta
Brodie, why? Do you REALLY need Twitter?
- Andrew Eglinton
yet you were still able to express yourself within the constraints. 120 characters there, lanjackal
- neko
@LANjackal yet your comment was only 120 characters long. (JJ).
- Ward Seward
@Andrew @LANjackal No, I was just thinking thank god for FriendFeed. Although I do have a lot of friends that don't use FriendFeed that I would dearly miss. I suppose they would sign up if there was a Twitter Apocalypse .... I hope =)
- Brodie Beta
No More Perks: Coffee Shops Pull the Plug on Laptop Users - http://online.wsj.com/article...
Steven Perez, Urbansheep, Alex Schleber and 5 other people liked this
"As idle workers fill coffee-shop tables -- nursing a single cup, if that, and surfing the Web for hours -- and as shop owners struggle to stay in business, a decade-old love affair between coffee shops and laptop-wielding customers is fading. In some places, customers just get cold looks, but in a growing number of small coffee shops, firm restrictions on laptop use have been imposed and electric outlets have been locked. The laptop backlash may predate the recession, but the recession clearly has accelerated it."
- LANjackal
from Bookmarklet
huh? I paid like $5 for that mocha - which cost you less than $1 to make. Do you know how long and how hard I'd need to surf to blow $4 of bandwidth?
- Matthew DeVries
You paid $5 for a mocha? Change your coffee shop mate.
- Andrew Eglinton
From the article..."So far, this appears to be largely a New York phenomenon, though San Francisco's Coffee Bar does now put out signs when the shop is crowded asking laptop users to share tables and make space for other customers." .... NOw, I like the Coffee Bar's solution and wouldn't mind sharing a table at all. In fact, I've offered that very thing to people before! At the places I...
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- Jim: Dead Like FF
Happening everywhere. It's been happening since a year back in Singapore. In a common MacDs (we call them Macs here) for doing work and chilling out they covered the plugs totally.
- Chris Chua
that's why coffee shops such as Starbucks limit ppl limit ppl 2 a number of hrs of Internet access. Also if u want to use more of your computer, buy more drinks or food, that would help to pay something 4 the biz.
- polou/indigo_bow
At $5 a session you're better off with a dongle for wireless access and a spare battery pack !!
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
Oh, I'm all for forcing purchases to get access. There's no reason for you to be using their bandwidth if you're not paying.
- Matthew DeVries
I"m always happy to drop some cash for coffee and internet access. One of my fave places would only allow you access if you paid a minimum of 5 dollars for their wares. I get a little resentful, however, of fellow customers choking bandwidth watching a movie on Hulu while I'm trying to do research. If a lot of that is happening, then I can see the coffee shop owners' actions of limiting access as being justified
- Helen Sventitsky
Helen agreed. There is a traffic problem. Time for the Cyber Air Traffic Control. ;)
- Melanie Reed
Twitter and Livejournal outage, the micro(blogsphere) panics: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009... - is it time we decentralized the power of top-tier Web services?
"Decentralize" meaning what? Any self-contained service such as Twitter will always have resources specific to itself, and WILL tank if those resources go down. Centralization is necessary for control, which is necessary for business. The same is true of Gmail or any other corporate product. The problem with "decentralization" is that it depends on *volunteer* nodes, which usually results in very poor QoS.
- LANjackal
Competition and innovation and back up, preferably from the safety of one's own home, away from eroding coastlines, within reach of a constant water supply, on a self-sustaining energy and food plot, up high with a 360 degree vantage point, a fortified defense line, a helicopter, a reserve fuel supply, a substantial collection of porn and world literature, a recording device, the...
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- Andrew Eglinton
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