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Day 2 #TC50: I -still- love the smell of startups in the morning.
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To all the "Likes" --- Thanks for all the feedback from Day 1 notes.... Again, I'll keep my notes here.
- Jay Cuthrell
I am going to try showing up early today and try for a seat up front (again). Wired Ethernet at a conference of this size is quite alluring.
- Jay Cuthrell
heh. only one other person in line at the doors... much lighter in the early bird category today.
- Jay Cuthrell
from BuddyFeed
my Demo Pit favorite this morning is http://www.rrripple.com for their time line UI in media sharing
- Jay Cuthrell
ah yes, the tell tale sign of not sleeping properly... deja vu
- Jay Cuthrell
Let me just say.... the bandwidth is still phenomenal... I've been checking and it's averaging 80Mbps/40Mbps today. Wiline is the shizzle. This was yesterday on a spot check http://friendfeed.com/qthrul...
- Jay Cuthrell
stage AV antics continue...
- Jay Cuthrell
Good for rrripple. Time is the best organization for media that documents your doings. Glubble switched from albums to timelines earlier this year. And of course my site is time-centric.
- Bruce Lewis
KRISPY KREME IN THE HOUSSSSSSE!!!!!!!!!!!! NC REPRESENT!!!!
- Jay Cuthrell
Jason has arranged for Krispy Kreme donuts and coffee to be available to ALL attendees. Nice!
- Jay Cuthrell
Jason of the Argonauts fame.... golden fleece and what not
- Jay Cuthrell
Two after parties tonight: after party then the after after party.... at 5A5
- Jay Cuthrell
Conference is going to start at some point... the announcements are going out now.
- Jay Cuthrell
Demo Pit Picks will be two companies again today -- nice format change considering it was a one winner takes all prior to the change yesterday.
- Jay Cuthrell
This one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Jay Cuthrell
He is this generation's Jason of the Argonauts fame... DONUTS MAN. DONUTS!!!
- Jay Cuthrell
Expert panel is taking the stage... and everyone is perky. Awake.
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: ClientShow
- Jay Cuthrell
I'm waiting for the this is not Basecamp moment
- Jay Cuthrell
Ah.... very nice approach vs. having to download -- it's Air so everything is inline.
- Jay Cuthrell
Quorum building and teaming with checkoff on items
- Jay Cuthrell
I'd love to see what the system resources are for the Air app
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay, that's slick. Admittedly, I'm not a designer. I'll defer to the judges on this one entirely.
- Jay Cuthrell
So, this is a labor of love/hate in this case.
- Jay Cuthrell
Cool, tuned in from Amsterdam
- Jacob
from Android
The first pitch didn't include a statement to their own business model -- and have opted to take it in the Q&A portion. They didn't use all their time either -- ended 1 minute early.
- Jay Cuthrell
Artifacts are stored in S3. Smart... but wondering if this is LAN friendly i.e. localized cache or volume stub assignments to mitigate the party upload/download.
- Jay Cuthrell
The creative market is being questioned.... interesting
- Jay Cuthrell
This reminds me of a AIR version of Market7 http://www.market7.com/ if they go after video markets.
- Jay Cuthrell
(sidebar: one of the comments about Demo Pit was how companies will say they are for everything and anyone vs. -- yet get the same type critique when they say they have a niche)
- Jay Cuthrell
The word "island" has been thrown down.
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay, maybe I can't even defer to judges on this one. I'm wondering if this would be different if there was a creative on the judge panel -- or if that is even realistic. :)
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Metricly
- Jay Cuthrell
The coat the guy driving the demo made me think lab coat. Lab coat as in laboratory. Not sure if need new glasses or wearing a white jacket is hip.
- Jay Cuthrell
compare/corrolate of data --- quick comparison of metrics -- not sparklines
- Jay Cuthrell
CSV files are a pain apparently.
- Jay Cuthrell
Lots of third party API work being shown for pulling in data from Google, Salesforce, Quickbooks (bleeding edge)
- Jay Cuthrell
They have an import tool -- not sure if they will demo that on a stage. Custom can go wrong.
- Jay Cuthrell
Looking at this I keep thinking about scientific pursuits and doing comparative samples for illustration of conceptual trends/fitting.
- Jay Cuthrell
still no sparklines.... 30 seconds left in pitch
- Jay Cuthrell
i haz a mild disappointment
- Jay Cuthrell
"the mint of metrics"
- Jay Cuthrell
Judges starting to kick off... wondering what you can track
- Jay Cuthrell
okay... this is a Dashboard creation or assistance tool?
- Jay Cuthrell
hahah Dilbert reference
- Jay Cuthrell
someone had their Enterprise 2.0 juice pack this morning
- Jay Cuthrell
it's OLAP lite... hard to figure where it begins or ends
- Jay Cuthrell
By the way... the company is called... wait for it... Metricly
- Jay Cuthrell
I think the main complaint from judges so far is a struggle to define a metric of value.
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Affective Interfaces
- Jay Cuthrell
ASCII ART FTW
- Jay Cuthrell
facial expression recognition... this should be interesting
- Jay Cuthrell
yeah, totally missed that one
- Jay Cuthrell
no website
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: City Sourced
- Jay Cuthrell
e-Gov metrics that are comparable
- Jay Cuthrell
This has appeal for cities... not sure about small towns
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay... this is a crowd favorite I think.
- Jay Cuthrell
Judges like it and want greater localizations and priority
- Jay Cuthrell
Integration questions (thinking in terms of Govt) handled by pointing to FreedomSpeaks API
- Jay Cuthrell
SeeClickFix.com reference, open311.org API reference from judges (defensibility)
- Jay Cuthrell
Stakeholders, players, makers... how does this survive turnover in administrations?
- Jay Cuthrell
the goal from the start is to shorten the lag time between seeing a problem and making the city aware
- Jay Cuthrell
ooooooh
- Jay Cuthrell
Arrington just got the founders to admit Palm is paying -them- to build apps
- Jay Cuthrell
Wow. Epic
- Jay Cuthrell
Overall -- the crowd favorite so far. http://www.citysourced.com/
- Jay Cuthrell
On Stage: Trollim
- Jay Cuthrell
Code, Battle, Prevail
- Jay Cuthrell
I would love to see this for Cisco IOS and JunOS
- Jay Cuthrell
I am hoping the gaming engine is thinking in terms of greater tech scope than just "code" per se
- Jay Cuthrell
The bugs are their focus -- this might be more break/fix oriented.
- Jay Cuthrell
This is almost like a bounty system in a way.
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay, got it now... this is where they trying to get past a problem -- always on debugging.
- Jay Cuthrell
This is about tactical people for bug smashing and what many might consider the drudgery -- it is an alternate approach.
- Jay Cuthrell
Judge just made the jump.
- Jay Cuthrell
It's very apparent that the panel might not be day to day coders.
- Jay Cuthrell
Elance reference (funny considering oDesk was on stage)
- Jay Cuthrell
Trolls was an unfortunate choice of name in my mind :)
- Jay Cuthrell
important point: This should not be like this... http://video.google.com/videopl...
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: CrowdFlower
- Jay Cuthrell
this is hella clicky
- Jay Cuthrell
double hella clicky even
- Jay Cuthrell
labor channels: AMT, Gambit, Internal Interface, Samasource, LiveWork
- Jay Cuthrell
The labor pooling statistics and manna farmers shall be harnessed. Who will be Moses?
- Jay Cuthrell
judges open up with --- can you take faxes
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay.. that OCD comment went flat.
- Jay Cuthrell
Pro tip: go easy on the coffee
- Jay Cuthrell
Wow. "We -are- Dolores Labs" in response to Tim O'Reilly asking why they are doing what Dolores Labs does. Nice. Stay Classy San Diego!
- Jay Cuthrell
Back to the how it will grow into markets and be realized.
- Jay Cuthrell
judge panel roundup before break...
- Jay Cuthrell
CitySourced is popular. Yep.
- Jay Cuthrell
AOL is coming on stage now...
- Jay Cuthrell
AOL is talking about the new Bebo stuff, lifestream
- Jay Cuthrell
Thanks for the notes Jay! I am watching your notes in one screen and the livestream in another :)
- Garin Kilpatrick
that's a great nail color
- Jay Cuthrell
really pops
- Jay Cuthrell
Garin - I'll be covering all the manicure related minutia as well ;-)
- Jay Cuthrell
the iPhone app is pretty compelling if you want a single app for all of it
- Jay Cuthrell
lol
- Garin Kilpatrick
Wifi on the stage... I think a faraday cage for the iphone stage is a good idea for next time... few demos have been stable on that network for some reason
- Jay Cuthrell
Nice touch... the Beatles RockBand ad showing
- Jay Cuthrell
filter on Facebook is worth checking out the app --- it's very light mode like
- Jay Cuthrell
ahhh... the drag/drop and growl works for their demo... mine crashed :)
- Jay Cuthrell
the auto shorten with bit.ly is clever
- Jay Cuthrell
and mapquest link was full length for AIM
- Jay Cuthrell
20M desktop and mobile users on AIM
- Jay Cuthrell
that means 20M potential Twitter and Facebook clients
- Jay Cuthrell
break....
- Jay Cuthrell
Judges coming to the stage...
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: cocodot
- Jay Cuthrell
immediately calling out evite, facebook, etc...
- Jay Cuthrell
I wonder if anyone ran this by Ice-T?
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay, they are pushing to real printed products as well
- Jay Cuthrell
So, it's Evite + Zazzle + better design aesthetics
- Jay Cuthrell
This is reminding me of Plaxo Cards too now that I'm seeing moving demo
- Jay Cuthrell
Address book is very well done
- Jay Cuthrell
Elegance online is hard to pull off
- Jay Cuthrell
They are going to need a lot of money
- Jay Cuthrell
judges are seeing this be a BIG play
- Jay Cuthrell
"Hallmark for the 21st Century" -- Tim
- Jay Cuthrell
I think the judge missed the point about "elegant"
- Jay Cuthrell
Twitter is no elegant
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: LearnVest
- Jay Cuthrell
I had breakfast with the LearnVest folks... curious to see how the pitch goes
- Jay Cuthrell
LOL Ice-T...
- Steve
women are their core target at LV
- Jay Cuthrell
they should hire/emulate/steal UserVoice to fix their GUI
- Jay Cuthrell
a 12 step program... that starts the series at 0
- Jay Cuthrell
I think this would be the internal content portfolio for a Mint
- Jay Cuthrell
they are going after the failures of about.com advice sites and things that just drive to a credit card offer
- Jay Cuthrell
Women question will likely be posed by Mike or Jason
- Jay Cuthrell
judges are punching the fail button on the game concept of "Hi, I'm in debt" avatars or badges on profiles
- Jay Cuthrell
Flashback to the waitress tip scene in Resevoir Dogs... we need Harvey Keitel to break this down for the "guys" on stage
- Jay Cuthrell
ah... they are partnering with bankrate.com
- Jay Cuthrell
bottom line -- most passionate speaker I've heard so far
- Jay Cuthrell
APPLAUSE from the crowd
- Jay Cuthrell
helluva close
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: BreakThrough
- Jay Cuthrell
ah, the mental illness punchline... better delivered this time and there was laughter
- Jay Cuthrell
difference this time -- serious topic handling vs. a reference to exploitation (direct) of those with a mental state lending to a mundane or repetitive task
- Jay Cuthrell
This could be sold like AFLAC
- Jay Cuthrell
wondering if there will be an iChat or similar telepresence style session
- Jay Cuthrell
covered by medicare and medicaid
- Jay Cuthrell
would love to hear the arbitrage in this
- Jay Cuthrell
Skype session example :) Yay!
- Jay Cuthrell
he just brought up rural areas --- definitely done their homework
- Jay Cuthrell
Mike Arrington is NAKED
- Jay Cuthrell
well, that was the suggestion anyways
- Jay Cuthrell
this is more concept than website I think
- Jay Cuthrell
11 weeks and $55k credit card debt
- Jay Cuthrell
hinting that someone can buy their debt
- Jay Cuthrell
asking for seed
- Jay Cuthrell
good pitch
- Jay Cuthrell
hopefully the phone numbers of therapists aren't being routed to Yext http://instantrimshot.com
- Jay Cuthrell
judges wondering about liability issues
- Jay Cuthrell
time money ability willingness shame --- great list
- Jay Cuthrell
mentioning telemedicine
- Jay Cuthrell
more mental health jokes
- Jay Cuthrell
and another
- Jay Cuthrell
people joke about things that touch them and that matter to them I think... in this context and this delivery
- Jay Cuthrell
we just had impotence said on stage
- Jay Cuthrell
raped and i need help said on stage
- Jay Cuthrell
very curious to see how judges react
- Jay Cuthrell
judge is -sold-
- Jay Cuthrell
fiddle player in action folks... in action
- Jay Cuthrell
employee assistance programs suggested by judges as a channel
- Jay Cuthrell
visual cues in teleconference
- Jay Cuthrell
this guy is knocking it out of the park with each judge so far
- Jay Cuthrell
tie into Affective Interfaces at the end... Tim's favorite
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: GlideHealth
- Jay Cuthrell
these guys are talking master patient index and transformations off the bat
- Jay Cuthrell
(suggestion for their UI: make the weight a trendline on the profile page)
- Jay Cuthrell
this is right up Cerner's alley
- Jay Cuthrell
this is a great demo so far... all the tools make sense
- Jay Cuthrell
they are also much nicer than existing medical software company gui's
- Jay Cuthrell
they already have customers
- Jay Cuthrell
this looks very funded already
- Jay Cuthrell
time for the judges
- Jay Cuthrell
oh snap! the guy pitching just called out Microsoft
- Jay Cuthrell
this is a big disruption of pricing models
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Sprowtt
- Jay Cuthrell
As we all know... Sarbanes-Oxley Act is responsible for global warming
- Jay Cuthrell
I got lost early on during this pitch
- Jay Cuthrell
I'm wondering how this is different than Yahoo Groups witch hunt material of the .com days?
- Jay Cuthrell
This is a very fast way to buy stock... not sure how popular this will be outside of vibrant room I am sitting in...
- Jay Cuthrell
judge joke was "can you print the stock as wallpaper"
- Jay Cuthrell
the word assure is being used
- Jay Cuthrell
FASCINATING
- Jay Cuthrell
judges also wondering why the lead was SOX crap
- Jay Cuthrell
the wizard portion of the tool was good
- Jay Cuthrell
ahhhhhhh goals of creating an exchange
- Jay Cuthrell
now they are thinking big
- Jay Cuthrell
angels investors vs. cherub investors vs. pixie investors vs. water nymph investors
- Jay Cuthrell
"SEC type stuff" is a wince phrase
- Jay Cuthrell
reminding everyone this is all private stock
- Jay Cuthrell
the SEC savvy person (aka judge) sitting next to you is now "skeptical"
- Jay Cuthrell
judge favorite roundup
- Jay Cuthrell
BreakThrough is taking a clean sweep per recent discussion but CitySource PREVAILS
- Jay Cuthrell
the judges are reminding everyone how very limited the demo experience is.... second visits are the true goal here
- Jay Cuthrell
next up is lunch and Facebook stuff
- Jay Cuthrell
facebook freebies are being stacked on stage
- Jay Cuthrell
10 minutes until Facebook Developer thingie starts
- Jay Cuthrell
Facebook has taken the stage
- Jay Cuthrell
and..... JibJab CEO
- Jay Cuthrell
and.... a movie
- Jay Cuthrell
this movie has a subliminal encoding that taps the deeper core of the occipital lobe forcing you to close your eyes and breathe more slowly... drifting... deeper.... deeper...
- Jay Cuthrell
millions and millions and millions of users
- Jay Cuthrell
movie over
- Jay Cuthrell
the 300M user mark has been reached... Facebook is the size of a country... with potentially the same issues of overpopulation
- Jay Cuthrell
talking about Haystack servers
- Jay Cuthrell
talking bout memcached traffic
- Jay Cuthrell
talking about traffic from product launch (looks like a DDoS) for vainty URLs
- Jay Cuthrell
Tornado is on the SLIDE
- Jay Cuthrell
Tornado, scribe, cassandra, thrift, etc....
- Jay Cuthrell
tagging as a hackathon
- Jay Cuthrell
see also mobile.livejournal.com = lite.facebook.com
- Jay Cuthrell
I don't agree with the engineer graph at all.
- Jay Cuthrell
okay... hackathon talk
- Jay Cuthrell
Launching today: Facebook Prototypes
- Jay Cuthrell
*ahem* Google Labs *ahem*
- Jay Cuthrell
demo time
- Jay Cuthrell
Facebook Connect talk time
- Jay Cuthrell
closing my eyes... it's James Spader
- Jay Cuthrell
Pimping your friends?
- Jay Cuthrell
pushing the notion that Facebook owns the users
- Jay Cuthrell
selling as decreased friction to acquire
- Jay Cuthrell
someone has been reading "good to great"
- Jay Cuthrell
jibjab ceo on stage
- Jay Cuthrell
this room is a furnace
- Jay Cuthrell
the question of topical and timely vs. lasting and relevant
- Jay Cuthrell
the cococards guys are hopefully listening
- Jay Cuthrell
this is anything but elegant but would be a nice hook
- Jay Cuthrell
jibjab abandoned signups --- went with FBC
- Jay Cuthrell
kinda wondering if the jibjab example companies will adopt Google, Amazon, etc... or just leave it as FBC
- Jay Cuthrell
Q&A
- Jay Cuthrell
coy answers on integrating currency to FBC
- Jay Cuthrell
asked about noreply@facebook.com and got blank stares
- Jay Cuthrell
we may have a breakout later one on one... will add back into notes later
- Jay Cuthrell
see also: http://fudge.org/too-much-text
- Jay Cuthrell
see also: http://fudge.org/too-muc...
- Jay Cuthrell
On a happier note... FREE BEER in Demo Pit for http://woome.com
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Thoora
- Jay Cuthrell
news finding, top stories, "reactions"
- Jay Cuthrell
This reminds me of Regator http://regator.com
- Jay Cuthrell
This also reminds me of the news.com default page
- Jay Cuthrell
"quality" sounds like secret sauce... there will be questions from the judges
- Jay Cuthrell
right up Scoble's alley
- Jay Cuthrell
"how is going to remove noise" -- Scoble
- Jay Cuthrell
(I want to see if squelch occurs as a word used)
- Jay Cuthrell
Nothing really ground shaking... Hmmm...
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Insttant
- Jay Cuthrell
ah.... an aplusk reference
- Jay Cuthrell
youngest presenter today if not ever at TC50
- Jay Cuthrell
Cool! Raleigh is on the places page.
- Jay Cuthrell
This is a pretty compelling demo so far but I'm deferring to the judges to weigh in on what this is or isn't in terms of other analytics that tap into streams for brand tracking.
- Jay Cuthrell
Pete Cashmore is alpha dog of the Insttant screen... pervasive... showing up everywhere on it
- Jay Cuthrell
this might indicate there is no true "rise" per se
- Jay Cuthrell
ahh.... they said they "remove the noise" --- smart addition to the pitch
- Jay Cuthrell
Scoble likes it. That kid is too young for Scotch.
- Jay Cuthrell
challenge from Scoble -- engagement scores vs. followers
- Jay Cuthrell
measurement and fuzzy vs cotton vs opening additional questions
- Jay Cuthrell
important point -- sarcasm on Twitter is hard to detect
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Perpetually
- Jay Cuthrell
Oh.... I am going to really really like this
- Jay Cuthrell
hoping for PURL references
- Jay Cuthrell
hoping for link rot references
- Jay Cuthrell
YES
- Jay Cuthrell
"apple's time machine for your website"
- Jay Cuthrell
http://perpetually.com/
- Jay Cuthrell
I am very very happy with this.
- Jay Cuthrell
private label archive.org approach with controls and searching inside the history
- Jay Cuthrell
challenges that judges will bring up most likely.... dynamics, personalization, and other unqiue one to one notions and interstitials of third parties
- Jay Cuthrell
is this a bad robot?
- Jay Cuthrell
is this a good robot?
- Jay Cuthrell
or is this just... a robot?
- Jay Cuthrell
this is good for brochure web... doubtful for a Facebook experience
- Jay Cuthrell
Daily archive.... showing archive.org now
- Jay Cuthrell
okay, they are referencing wayback machine (archive.org)
- Jay Cuthrell
curl on steroids
- Jay Cuthrell
$99 a month to $399 a month for up to 400GB
- Jay Cuthrell
judges already asking about logging
- Jay Cuthrell
used the words "robot policy"
- Jay Cuthrell
i am wondering if Scoble will mention his blog loss incident
- Jay Cuthrell
the $99 was a pure offset of OPEX and likely won't fly for getting customers
- Jay Cuthrell
recommendation from judges -- freemium
- Jay Cuthrell
gov 2.0 references as option or path
- Jay Cuthrell
Jason wants them to approach the news sites for refreshing ads and impressions for olden days review
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: anyclip
- Jay Cuthrell
Judges chatting while the demo is setup for anyclip... CitySource again... is showing up
- Jay Cuthrell
feedburner guy wants to build battleships
- Jay Cuthrell
Linkedin Q&A has started too
- Jay Cuthrell
anyclip is on now
- Jay Cuthrell
they opened with a clip from Big Lebowski
- Jay Cuthrell
Oh... I -like- this
- Jay Cuthrell
any clip from -any- movie
- Jay Cuthrell
this is going to be a big big part of future TechCrunch posts (my theory)
- Jay Cuthrell
this is fun
- Jay Cuthrell
there has to be some crazy metadata
- Jay Cuthrell
here comes the you can do this for us
- Jay Cuthrell
500 tags per film
- Jay Cuthrell
think clipart sites... now it's movie clips
- Jay Cuthrell
only 300 films right now
- Jay Cuthrell
critical point -- the content providers have to be on board
- Jay Cuthrell
this is big
- Jay Cuthrell
monetizing latent content by the drink... or sippy cup
- Jay Cuthrell
they even had a calacanis clip... who knew?
- Jay Cuthrell
Whiskey Winner!
- Jay Cuthrell
still a lot of concern from judges on making the deals for content
- Jay Cuthrell
there will be a swinging door for content pricing and reciprocation and may very well be proprietary
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Crowd Fusion
- Jay Cuthrell
I remember seeing this guy on TWiST http://thisweekinstartups.com/
- Jay Cuthrell
yeah, this demo reflects a huge amount of work done by someone that has done this several times
- Jay Cuthrell
demo is obsessable.com
- Jay Cuthrell
I'm pretty sure this was talked about verbatim here http://thisweekinstartups.com/2009...
- Jay Cuthrell
judges weigh in...
- Jay Cuthrell
"this is a complicated tool"
- Jay Cuthrell
(my critique: nobody cares /today/ about phone reviews from 2002 for comparisons)
- Jay Cuthrell
"a better engadget" -- Scoble
- Jay Cuthrell
they want to talk with clicker
- Jay Cuthrell
goal would be to open source and then let people grow into it
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Hark
- Jay Cuthrell
link sharing on steroids
- Jay Cuthrell
showing this question http://twitter.com/timorei...
- Jay Cuthrell
(my answer: google wave sort of but not the whole enchillada)
- Jay Cuthrell
"flaring" is sending a signal out to the network of contacts... everyone converge as a Flash Browsing Mob
- Jay Cuthrell
Slashdot Effect -> Digg Effect -> Hark Effect (if you are Robert Scoble)
- Jay Cuthrell
this demo is trippy
- Jay Cuthrell
this is what stumbleupon should have done
- Jay Cuthrell
this is a whole level of sharing... porn aficionados
- Jay Cuthrell
interesting teaming possibilities
- Jay Cuthrell
how will they make money? I'm guessing ads
- Jay Cuthrell
judges weigh in...
- Jay Cuthrell
"downloads are hard"
- Jay Cuthrell
"not enough pain for me to go get it"
- Jay Cuthrell
(me: this is for select groups and value requests)
- Jay Cuthrell
great thoughts everyone! Anyclip rocked it!
- Jason Calacanis
Heh.
- Jay Cuthrell
Anyclip did indeed.
- Jay Cuthrell
RPN reference FTW
- Jay Cuthrell
finally a ray of hope from the judges... "this idea has not been explored enough"
- Jay Cuthrell
the suggestion is being trumped as meebo
- Jay Cuthrell
judge refresh and Q&A
- Jay Cuthrell
Insttant has legs so far
- Jay Cuthrell
dark horse might be Perpetually?
- Jay Cuthrell
Anyclip did rock it. It's made for people that think and love what a moment in a movie is.
- Jay Cuthrell
Scoble is clinging to Anyclip
- Jay Cuthrell
15 minute break.... pause for the cause then Demo Pit (2 picks) are next
- Jay Cuthrell
room is still packed here... wow
- Jay Cuthrell
AV group (serious nerdcore geniuses) on stage setting up for the next round
- Jay Cuthrell
these animoto videos are pretty rockin'... this conference is definitely setting the bar of expectations for future events
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: threadsy
- Jay Cuthrell
oh... and some guy named Chamillionaire -- huge in country and western I'm told
- Jay Cuthrell
I remember hearing something to the effect of Chamillionaire being the first artist to truly grasp the impact of licensing ringtones
- Jay Cuthrell
the demo on stage is showing a lot of UI squish... makes me wonder what kind of monitors are being used vs the lack of HD or wide format projectors for venues -- there is probably a market in there somewhere for the vendors of projection to make this happen by 2010
- Jay Cuthrell
the real estate is palpable now when considering the screen size of the actual, well, screens...
- Jay Cuthrell
judge body language update... I think coffee is in order... long day effect
- Jay Cuthrell
1M to 11M of Webmail/Facebook/Twitter overlap -- neat stat
- Jay Cuthrell
Ah... veiled furries discussion
- Jay Cuthrell
Judges weighing in... starting with Scoble
- Jay Cuthrell
Scoble WANTS it now
- Jay Cuthrell
differentiators are coming close to squelch...
- Jay Cuthrell
multiple inbox, flows, PIM, good points... (will update Too Much Text)
- Jay Cuthrell
"power user product"
- Jay Cuthrell
the webmail revitalization is around the revenue model 2-5% of your messages will be matched vs. EVERY message -- Gmail failed?
- Jay Cuthrell
wondering where Otherinbox and Squirrelmail are in this mix
- Jay Cuthrell
this will be repeated a lot "cheatin' on my MySpace" -- Chamillionaire
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: lissn
- Jay Cuthrell
starting with a evolution line.... begs question of where was missing link?
- Jay Cuthrell
questions... vark vibe... watchers/voyeaurs/lurkers
- Jay Cuthrell
oh... this is good
- Jay Cuthrell
here we go... Google Wave Playback riff
- Jay Cuthrell
Google Wave UI teams take note... this is the UI
- Jay Cuthrell
Ray Kurzweil's Singularity example in the demo.... flawless
- Jay Cuthrell
Local is the mob you can walk to
- Jay Cuthrell
Local is the group think for the region
- Jay Cuthrell
Local is the tribe
- Jay Cuthrell
wondering if this was real at this point...
- Jay Cuthrell
CAPTCHA's should not be used for -any- large event announcement -- it will fail
- Jay Cuthrell
Finally into the site...
- Jay Cuthrell
judges are still coming at this with the same discussions we are seeing in Google Wave sandbox... this is very cool
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Radiusly
- Jay Cuthrell
This is something Dell needs perhaps
- Jay Cuthrell
thinking about customer service, helpdesks, clearing houses for lead generation
- Jay Cuthrell
what if you have a company with thousands of SKUs -- Cisco for example
- Jay Cuthrell
modular systems vs. shrink wrapped
- Jay Cuthrell
judge weigh in time...
- Jay Cuthrell
domain.com vs. twitter.com/domain discussion begins
- Jay Cuthrell
we are in critique of pitch mode... can't get to the product just yet
- Jay Cuthrell
what is the point of doing this if it isn't drawing in on the terms a company is comfortable with --- some might take exception with this depending on your view of a customer, company and that role
- Jay Cuthrell
showing signs that this makes companies uncomfortable
- Jay Cuthrell
another pearl "gotta be Simon Cowell too" -- Chamillionaire
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Stribe
- Jay Cuthrell
turn any website into a social community network thing in under 60 seconds
- Jay Cuthrell
ah.... not a typo... clever clever
- Jay Cuthrell
or maybe private?
- Jay Cuthrell
gotta be a cached copy
- Jay Cuthrell
the bottom bar reminds me of what TechCrunch turned on a while back that crashed my browser
- Jay Cuthrell
they turned it off since then (unrelated)
- Jay Cuthrell
I think these things should be called lichen-ware
- Jay Cuthrell
Wow, that's only 251 hits in Google... okay... this is lichenware
- Jay Cuthrell
a bow on the tree
- Jay Cuthrell
but they are letting the ribbon be a bus
- Jay Cuthrell
stribe on wordpress.com is the acid test
- Jay Cuthrell
judges weigh in...
- Jay Cuthrell
Facebook Connect commercial begins
- Jay Cuthrell
Ah.... the website is the center vs. the Facebook generalization for duplication of efforts (ie profiles)
- Jay Cuthrell
Twitter OAuth commercial begins
- Jay Cuthrell
Chamillionaire gets it
- Jay Cuthrell
BOOOOM
- Jay Cuthrell
Very refreshing... kowtow indeed
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: Clixtr
- Jay Cuthrell
geo aware mobile camera iphone app?
- Jay Cuthrell
whrrl
- Jay Cuthrell
whrrrl
- Jay Cuthrell
whrrrrrrrl
- Jay Cuthrell
Whrrrrrrrrrrl
- Jay Cuthrell
judges weigh in...
- Jay Cuthrell
Will. Someone. Mention. http://whrrl.com/
- Jay Cuthrell
nobody is asking if this has been done before
- Jay Cuthrell
friend graph inertia being discussed
- Jay Cuthrell
Flickr comparison being made
- Jay Cuthrell
He's describing Whrrl again
- Jay Cuthrell
Scoble demo crash?
- Jay Cuthrell
On stage: The Whuffie Bank
- Jay Cuthrell
the wildcard
- Jay Cuthrell
The judges from the first panels would have had fun on this one... online currency discussions http://friendfeed.com/qthrul...
- Jay Cuthrell
I wonder how many people are thinking of how to game this, farm manna, etc...
- Jay Cuthrell
very interesting imagery for reinforcing ideas on this deck...
- Jay Cuthrell
printed whuffie in the US? Google "The United Cities Corporation"
- Jay Cuthrell
that was an epic rant from Reid --- something has been touched
- Jay Cuthrell
economics is a sure fire way to drive people to drink
- Jay Cuthrell
oh... look at the clock
- Jay Cuthrell
I'd like to see the judges take note of actual private printed currency concerns in the US
- Jay Cuthrell
ie. this might NOT be something for purely US investment
- Jay Cuthrell
Chamillionaire does not disappoint -- brought the whole mining, manufactured concern up
- Jay Cuthrell
the well of souls, inflation, draw and run
- Jay Cuthrell
rewinding back to the non-profit is interesting considering this is an investment vehicle -- i.e. is there a return?
- Jay Cuthrell
Demo pit companies after announcements... but first... 2 minutes for XBox and Zune giveaways
- Jay Cuthrell
Biiiiiiiig fishbowl filled with cards going around
- Jay Cuthrell
Demo pick #1 of 2: CHYNGLE
- Jay Cuthrell
ultra localized mobile networks
- Jay Cuthrell
the stadium graphic is telling stories
- Jay Cuthrell
UMich demo
- Jay Cuthrell
Okay, this is another ticket scalping demo?
- Jay Cuthrell
They should contact the Carolina Hurricanes
- Jay Cuthrell
A lot of stadiums are wifi enabled
- Jay Cuthrell
Xbox and Zunes handed out.. lots of winners
- Jay Cuthrell
Demo pick #2 of 2: SocialWok
- Jay Cuthrell
this is a Google Apps play
- Jay Cuthrell
demo domain is http://voiceroute.net/
- Jay Cuthrell
ahhh, less use of email
- Jay Cuthrell
this is an Enterprise play
- Jay Cuthrell
emulation of the Facebook feed waterfall
- Jay Cuthrell
there is a mobile interface as well that is working for iphone
- Jay Cuthrell
ah.... teaming then publish into the public stream
- Jay Cuthrell
Twitter, Facebook, FriendFeed, -and- Linkedin
- Jay Cuthrell
AND GOOGLE WAVE included!! Wow.
- Jay Cuthrell
judges weigh in
- Jay Cuthrell
this will be mapped to Google Apps
- Jay Cuthrell
for revenues that is
- Jay Cuthrell
hitch that wagon
- Jay Cuthrell
judges redux
- Jay Cuthrell
threadsy is winning this
- Jay Cuthrell
well...
- Jay Cuthrell
anyclip from this panel?
- Jay Cuthrell
hmm... this is a divided panel
- Jay Cuthrell
OVER and OUT
- Jay Cuthrell
recaps to follow drinks
- Jay Cuthrell
wish I could have joined you!
- Andrew Hyde
Open for questions/clarification
- Jay Cuthrell
that's good
- Koray Gulpinar (yihhu)
Developer Day coming to Boulder! http://developer-day.com/
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I hope the weather holds up for you guys over there good luck
- Kyle Case
should be great!
- Andrew Hyde
seconding @davedelaney's "nice!" to @marshallk's recommendation of www.tungle.com to help schedule meetings
I will have to re check this out, didn't fall in love the first time!
- Andrew Hyde
I've yet to figure out how to make scheduling easy. it's like i don't even try because i'm just waiting for the de facto awesome product that uses APIs to push/pull from Facebook and what not. It's amazing how many events I forget.
- Michelle
Received multiple emails about new Terms of Service? - http://status.twitter.com/post...
36 and counting...
- Josh Fraser
I've gotten 20.
- Andrew Hyde
landing in SFO. this flight took more than six hours but in air wifi makes it feel like 10 mins
I can't wait to have a flight with this turned on... nothing out of DEN yet.
- Andrew Hyde
VICTORY EVEN IN DEFEAT!!! @bethgo rocks.
she rocks!
- Andrew Hyde
I can't remember the last time I was nervous for a talk, but was shaking a bit during that one... Ignite's are fun and super hard! #gnomedex
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You did a great job!
- DaveDelaney.ME
Thanks!
- Andrew Hyde
Awesome job. Hope I didn't screw up the video. ;)
- Rick Turoczy
Inquiring minds want to know....Who likes #bacon??
like
- Andrew Hyde
@jolieodell I will be at Gnomedex Thursday afternoon. Seeing a bunch of Seattle startups on Thursday. Can't wait!
see you in Seattle!
- Andrew Hyde
Playing a show in Boulder, CO at 5:00 PM today at The Foundry http://feeds.artistdata.com/a-AR-NY...
fun watching you play!
- Andrew Hyde
thanks appreciate it :-)
- David Henderson
from email
TechStars Incubator Hatches 10 New Companies - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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Thanks for all your help this summer!
- Andrew Hyde
Very cool new forums are now being shown off @techstars thanks to Vanilla (version 2 rocks!) http://vanillaforums.org/
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anyone have a quick review of how this compares to/better than phpBB?
- Justin Long
pretty site. I second Justin's question about phpBB comparison... anyone? thanks :)
- Michelle
Was actually gonna post Justin's question as well.
- Manuel Mas
Sweet...Finally someone reboots/rethinks forums... phpBB is getting stale imho
- Bwana ☠
I think I may set this up a bit later, good to see they're hosted on rackspace cloud
- Bwana ☠
Agreed phpBB is getting stale but face it forums are web 1.0. The crazy thing is they work!! Anything that updates the web 1.0 forum is great in my book.
- cheapsuits
They are stale but they still have their place, I think... esp. for long term moderated conversations??
- Justin Long
My big complaint is form conversations are siloed. The revamping of the forum since their inception is happening slooooowly. Why?
- cheapsuits
Thanks for the tip. I have to check out this forum. I will suggest this to a client that is interested to start to participate in social media activities and an online conversation with their customers, business partners and others. But first we have to go through Forrester's "Social Technographics Profile" of their customers as described in the Groundswell book.
- Martin Lindeskog
answer to the 'how are they different' question: cleaner, plug in friendly and open source. Simply beautiful. Built around discussions. Easily themeable.
- Andrew Hyde
Techstars is just getting started in Boulder, Colorado. We are about to see the birth of 10 new companies. More here:
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Power to the Thursday morning Techstars. Can't wait to learn more.
- Holly Rae, FFer
You can search for "Techstars" and see the live chatter.
- Robert Scoble
Colorado is an amazing hotbed for startups
- Zoli Erdos
View from uptop: RT @jedwhite David Cohen with a full house up on stage at #techstars http://brightkite.com/objects...
- Yann Ropars
Why exactly is it a hotbed Zoli ?
- Kashif Khan
Yann: I'm in the front row. ReTel is up first. They help stores and restaurants optimize their operations. http://www.reteltechnologies.com/
- Robert Scoble
Kashif: Boulder has a higher percentage of educated people than any other city in USA, from what I was told last night.
- Robert Scoble
Kashif: Boulder is also very beautiful and geeks who come here for College don't want to leave. I totally grok that after walking around last night. Finally, there's a good community here that supports startups.
- Robert Scoble
the mentor crew is impressive, me thinks.... looking at http://www.techstars.org/
- Holly Rae, FFer
ReTel is interesting. Takes security video from retail stores, slices that up, sends it to workers around the world, who then analyze that video for him. Helps catch employees stealing from businesses, etc.
- Robert Scoble
aah thanks Robert, Ive heard about the natural beauty of Boulder, but now that it has geek points I need to visit that place
- Kashif Khan
Do they have Ustream.tv anywhere? anyone knows? #techstars
- Yann Ropars
Boulder's been a tech hotbed for a while - I had dealings with Republic Telecom (they made a Voice-over-Frame Relay system) there in the 1990s. Make sure to get to the Gold Hill Inn (up a dirt road into the Front Range) while you're there.
- John Craft
Everlater is a cool way to record your travels around the world. I'll have to try it out. http://www.everlater.com/ It builds a nice story site from all the things you've put into social networks and Flickr.
- Robert Scoble
Check out a page that the Everlater team built for Fred Wilson, very nice: http://www.everlater.com/fredwil...
- Robert Scoble
Salt Lake City is just as beautiful and has just as many, if not more startups. Boulder just gets the cred because they have one central source for all those startups.
- Jesse Stay
Now TimZon is on stage. http://www.timzon.com/ this lets you share visual feedback. Combines audio, video, whiteboard, and screen capture.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting about TimZon...I might be able to use it in my web design business. E-mail feedback is remarkably inefficient.
- Sam Guzman
Now on stage is Take Comics http://www.takepublishing.com/ which is trying to bring high quality comics to both mobile and web.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - any more thoughts about timzon?
- Tobin Truog
Tobin, nah, I have to use it to see what I think of it.
- Robert Scoble
Now on stage is "Next Big Sound" http://thenextbigsound.com/ measures the growth and popularity for bands across major web properties and sells actionable insights around that data to band managers.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, Next Big Sound is example of a trend: getting data out of social networks and presenting this in new ways so that people can make better business decisions.
- Robert Scoble
Is there something specific about "Next Big Sound" to apply it just to bands? Can it also track brands?
- Kevin Krewell
Kevin: I'll ask. The whole shtick and UI, though, is really focused around music analysis.
- Robert Scoble
is there a ustream for this stuff?
- Darren Stuart
Thanks.
- Kevin Krewell
they are doing awesome stuff
- andy brudtkuhl
Vanilla rocked. Cool new forums.
- Robert Scoble
SendGrid is on stage right now, they are improving email for email marketers.
- Robert Scoble
Spry gives you insights to software projects.
- Robert Scoble
Thanks for documenting this, fun to see you, have a great time in town!
- Andrew Hyde
New blog post: you are SO unfollowed! http://scobleizer.com/2009... I'll follow on FriendFeed anyone who comments here:
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Follow me!
- TheHenry
TheHenry: I already am! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Please don't unfollow me!! :)
- Carlo Nasuti
Very interesting approach Robert. If it is working for you that is awesome though. Hope all is well. Give Roc a big hug for me.
- C.C. Chapman
Yo...
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Not too much unfollowing please.
- Tim
i'm in
- Tai Hsia
Can you follow me?
- Giorgio
ok I'll allow you
- Derry O Donnell
What's going on here?
- Andru Edwards
I think you're already following me Robert.
- Andrew Leahey
well ok )
- Denverken
Lead, follow, or get out of the way.
- Robert Kenney
[comments here]
- Nick Humphries
I will comment here! :)
- John Ptacek
Great blog appreciate all of your "likes" that I would not have noticed before. Thanks for all the time you spend educating us.
- Gary Prechtel
auto-follow always seemed like a bad idea. people can always msg you but your stream will get totally cluttered if you dont do a little bit of housekeeping.
- William Kapes
"baby I'm a star" -Prince (off purple rain)
- Michael J. Carrasquillo
novel approach, seems sound
- Danny Ayers
Consider me available for following. :-)
- Eric D. Wilson
Okay, I'll bite..
- Tanya
Bring it Scobleizer.
- Todd Pringle
I agree, Twitter is much better this way.
- Ryan W
I appreciate your work, and your passion for social media.
- Evan Travers
sounds simple...
- Mateo Yadarola
Scoble follow me baby
- Jadito
Oh you are getting quite a response here!!!! I'm commenting so you'll follow me but the thing is you're going to LIKE following me because you'll learn all about Sedona through tons of videos and you'll love it so much you'll want to pack your camera and head out here! =)
- SedonaTV
Thanks for the mentions, Robert (and you know I'm not commenting just for the follow - I just like to follow you, which is what counts!)
- Jesse Stay
Actually Robert, now I've seen you've tidied up your twitter, I'll probably follow you there again too. :-)
- Tim
hey follow me scoble
- Andy Jenks
Meh, who cares really, not like you read everyone you followed. Plus unfollowed you anyways, not like you have to say that's interestined except friendfeed spam.
- Steve
joining the crowd - good move Robert.
- Adam
follow me
- Tai Hsia
welcome to Boulder
- Andrew Hyde
@scobleizer just created the most important tech follow list on Twitter.
- Christian Anderson
aww shucks, and here I was thinking it was just me who you unfollowed.
- Jess Sloss
I underwent the same situation, Robert - I unfollowed almost everybody on Twitter who duplicated their accounts here on FrF. I got a tempest of fury for this action. web3 is too personal still ))
- socimediator
Scoble in Boulder = Trouble.
- Jim Halligan @jim
I feel fortunate that you're still subbed to me on FF. I haven't even noticed whether you unfollowed me on Twitter. But you following me, still hasn't gotten me the chicks. :P Always fun seeing your posts, long as you don't block me, it doesn't matter if you follow me or not. :)
- Arlan Koizumi
I did the same thing some weeks ago after avoiding twitter because it got too noisy. It was instantly better. But in the mean time I started to use FF more and I like it better here so I hardly go near twitter now.
- Murray Barton
You already follow me here on ff, which i use more than twitter.
- dthree
What's up?
- Kevin Whalen
from iPhone
Hey Robert, so for following >1,600 is it that right way taken by Philtro and Filttr?
- Martin Adamek
I'm glad you mentioned Loic, he caught a lot of flack for doing this earlier.
- Steven Cains
Hey Robert - fight the tweetspam !
- Michael Neale
Don't think you are following me on Twitter anymore..please do and best regards
- Karma Martell
I'm still trying to figure out the following... so I'm watching how you do it scoble.
- Matthew Schrock
Good plan. I'm looking forward to your results. I'm trying to figure out all these social media elements. I would appreciate your Twitter follow.
- David Stanley
hope this new approach works for you!
- timepilot
Oh, so now you are only easy on FF.
- James Watters
Odd internal response, I don't follow everyone who follows me cuz of the very noise you talk about. And, there's no good reason for you to follow me since I'm unlikely to deliver news of interest to you. And yet, here I am, posting on FriendFeed so you have the OPTION of following me, a stranger who is not the same kind of SMART as you. Who'd have thought...
- Della Mauler
Interesting statement about original content value of FF independent of twitter. Twitter is where you keep your noise level down...
- James Watters
This seems like asking for trouble to me, Scoble. But, it's your time and bandwith to do with what you will. Since only a handful of people (by that I think I mean just one) follow me on Twitter, it's pretty easy for me to weed out the bots. The people I follow are my internet nerds (mostly the Rev 3 crew) so I know their interests are in line with mine. Hit me up for some edifying conversations about Lost and video games, Robert.
- Jeremiah Green
Here you go Robert! [also via twitter: @Scobleizer Therefore: only approx. 1.7 million "active" human @Twitter users contribute 50%+ of all activity, right? #engagement] Regards, @AAinslie
- Alexander Ainslie
The green avatar is so disturbing mate. :)
- Jordan Windebank
I'll lead, you follow. So where are we going?
- Tom Sheppard
I was sad to see you unfollowed me, but now you may follow me again, so all will be well in the world.
- Jodi
following the leader...
- John Munro
You're still following me - does that mean I'm a smart feller? ;)
- Brett Kelly
so glad I mail Robert a business card every month :)
- Christian Anderson
Della: the thing is here I can follow you and put you into a list and watch you less frequently than some of my other people. So everyone wins. But only here on FriendFeed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Some of us have been doing this from our start. Kind of cool, eh? But our numbers don't grow quickly so we were tagged as "slow." Nice to see you catch up with us! Also, this may shock you, there sre folks who follow and communicate with only 3 folks on twitter and they are HAPPY! Imagine....
- lynda spangler
Yay. Now he will follow a librarian.
- Joe....
Follow this dot!!! .
- Bwana ☠
I've long thought the entire Twitter "etiquette" of always following who follows you to be a bit of a folly. I'm following 114 at the moment, and the stream still moves too fast for me to keep up with.
- Darren Landrum
Comment!
- anna sauce
ok
- Vasu Srinivasan
Good test, count me in... I don't follow tons of people, I follow a few prolific Scoble-types and the rest are more focused in areas I'm interested in.
- David Ziembicki
I'm not following tons of people, just a select few. More to follow on FB when facebook has completely integrated Friendfeed-funcionality. ;-)
- Wolfgang G. Wettach
I only follow people I know or have something interesting to say, did you really have 160000 people that said something worthwhile???
- Gerard Vanschip-Miyama
Well I commented via your Blog so instead of repeating myself I'll link to comment http://disq.us/1ms9
- Keith - @tsudo
Gerard: everyone says something worthwhile once in a while. The trick is to see it when it happens. Here on FriendFeed, by the way, you have a better shot because good stuff usually gets liked and commented on, so it pulls up higher into my view.
- Robert Scoble
come join us here folks http://ff.im/6dUHN xxx
- Mark
Okay. But will you read and comment on my stuff?
- Mellissa Jane
Robert, I posted this after Loic's decision and it looks like it will need another update. http://www.knowthenetwork.com/blog... I think there is value in stating your follow policy.
- Keith - @tsudo
cool
- Zach Cheatham
Hello?
- Vicky
following all the discussion of you unfollowing everyone on twitter has made me think about doing the same thing and starting fresh.
- (jeff)isageek
not unless we beat you in the Ashes
- Mark
Nice post Robert, and no surprise it's an improvement. ;o) I have seen it for me too.
- Rob Sellen :o)
1 thing I find Robert still worth following @Scobleizer when I am not on friendfeed & on my Hootsuite or PeopleBrowsr. therefore not much affected, not much 2 bother me, ego not gone at all. luv your post Robert it is a frank posting
- polou/indigo_bow
Follow me Robert, I promise I'm not annoying. :) @cluteman
- Greg Clute
from iPhone
You've piqued my curiosity.
- Chainz
Robert, thank you! I follow you and enjoy your "likes" and your energetic takes. I also enjoy your Building43 interviews! I am a constant FriendFeed user now. Thank you!
- Tobin Truog
This made me realise I must be more active on FF and comment/post more :-).
- Mats Pettersson
I think I'll give FriendFeed a go! Never tried it, but looks easy and I need to understand the interwebs better. @CodeSamurai_Com
- CodeSamurai
butt-kissing is not a prerequisite for being followed, he will follow you anyways :D
- Mark
Count me in! (Please??)
- Ricky Maveety
lol @mark. ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
You can follow me, but since you follow a lot of people, you probably can't pay attention to the stream of tweets.
- Alex Knight
Alex..that's the WHOLE point he did this... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
IMHO 1,647 is still way too many people to follow.
- Alex Knight
I will NOT get baited into ... ah CRAP. I follow very few people on twitter, mainly only to find info from Android developers (my topic of choice). If you mention anything about the food you are currently eating, etc.. you will probably not be followed. If you post 80,000 times a day, you will not be followed, since Twitters interface sucks (not so for FF). Also, no offense to other social users, but if you resend your FF/FB/<insert other social site here> entries to twitter, I probably won't follow.
- Tim Hoeck
http://socialspark.com/blogs... Chris Pirillo is Scum.
- Mark
good move IMO
- Joanna Nicol
Love the post, love the response.
- Chris Rogers
from BuddyFeed
nice hanging out at with beach w/ you last week! follow moi!!!
- Raina Lee
I always feel like scoble's following me
- Rodney J Woodruff
from iPhone
Don't forget your Dunbar number, Scoble! There are only so many people you can have meaningfully connect with online.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Mark is right. No butt kissing. Ew.
- Robert Scoble
"I always feel like, somebody's watching me..."
- Wizetux
Comment!!!! Ohh wait but you already follow me...
- Amit Nangare
Follow me, if you aren't already....please. Thanks,
- Steve de Mena
here is my comment ZOL
- Shane Gibson
Comment? What kind of coomment, Robert? :-)
- Mitch Featherston
Whoop there it is! On Twitter @jimgoldstein
- Jim Goldstein
from iPhone
Oh..Oh... Mr. Kotter...Mr Kotter..follow me!
- Scott Booher
Glad to see you're writing more than 140 characters on that blog. Doesn't that feel liberating? Maybe we should be allowed character# based on your metric for powerful/smart/newsmaker
- Noah Bloom
You already follow me here on FF, for which I thank you. So, I'll just say thanks for the phone call the other day. :)
- Jeff Harbert
I'll take a follow!
- Jeff Weber
@shaunhess
- Shaun Hess
Ok, so follow me again and I will follow you back. Thanks!
- Audrey
Robert - I fail on most of your criteria so I'm not expecting you to follow me. The thing is I don't care if you follow me back - this is social media and everyone has their own choice. I choose to follow you because you entertain and inform me. The relationship is 100% one way and I am more than happy with that!
- Pon
Robert - Last night at GDGT Party the person at the Blackberry booth said: 1) She had 'heard of Twitter, never friend feed' uses neither 2) Is SCOBLE is coming tonight 3) Wow, your Blackberry is really "archaic" and find out when contract lets you upgrade. F-D UP? Booth babes need primers.
- Liza
Interesting theory... people who comment more apt to contribute?
- Mark Philpot
I know someone else who tried this strategy last year, with similar results. I've been debating it. Once I got over 3K followers on Twitter life just got weird. Started to spend X amount of time every day blocking porn spam.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Liza: yeah, sorry for not coming to the party. I went and saw Obama's CTO instead.
- Robert Scoble
Steve Lynch: my Dunbar number is higher than yours is. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Nice summary Robert on the whole Unfollow thing, but would it be too repetitive if I re-post on my FF?
- Keith Rowland
What is the best friend feed aggregation strategy of non-friend streams (eg RSS, twitter, etc)? Imaginary friend per service, then add to lists? Multiple services per imaginary friend or 1 to 1? Or add the services to a group? What are the considerations?
- John Brown
Keith: you can repost anywhere you like, thanks!
- Robert Scoble
I'm in!
- Craig Shipp
still wondering how you are able to handle such a big load of subscribers here and e.g. so many followers with twitter o_0. I am already (sometimes) lost with the few i got till now. Lately with one sweep almost 40 to 50 contacts in twitter disappeard and i have no clue why ... boah, how are you handling the noise? Hell, with so many ppl in, you might have a terrific noise? Or you wear just good headphones ;)?
- Ronald
I very much agree that being choosy is the key to Twitter. I'm not nearly on the scale that you are, but in my experience, freely following people (whetther they follow me or not) and then mercilessly cutting back on them over and over again results in a kind of darwinianly better and better signal to noise ratio.
- Tim Maly
Touche!
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
Count me in
- Johnny
Hi Robert
- Randy Allen Bishop
Liked the blog post and totally agree. I've been meaning to do something similar. What I do is occasionally prune and then add some "better" replacements, so my total is always 2000 follows.
- Bora Zivkovic
I don't see how anyone can manage so many users without groups. Then again, with groups you could just make an "ignore" group.
- Oscar M. Cantu
from iPhone
Great blog post. I totally agree on the noise level. I figure I have blocked a few hundred accounts on Twitter, and my noise level has dropped dramatically. Thanks for the follow!
- Tony "Frosty" Welch
Hello Hello!
- Sam Goldfield
Robert - I figured you were in DC from FF, but she had NO IDEA what a CTO is. Point is, she was eager to give you a Blackberry, but not me, and I wish I had a Scoble costume to pretend for 5 minutes.
- Liza
@Robert I think you are starting another mass follow again.
- Steve Chou
from fftogo
Steve: that's not the problem. As long as spam doesn't enter the system I can deal. Keep in mind here I can choose how I follow. I can put you all in a folder that I never look at, if I wanted to.
- Robert Scoble
my feelings were hurt that you unsubscribed to me on twitter, but i agree with your methods
- Brian Appleby
I'm in!
- Chris Rossini
Brian, yeah, but I follow you here. So there.
- Robert Scoble
really doesn't matter as long as i can follow you, that's the beauty of these services
- Brian Appleby
How did you come to follow so many to begin with? I get annoyed with ppl and unfollowing is easier than sifting through their garbage constantly.
- R1CC1
Autofollow was a horrible idea to begin with.
- David Chieng
I kind of tired to keep an eye on who follows me now,the ones I'm following is much more important.:-)
- Steve Chou
from fftogo
Whoa lots of comments I'm following you longtime lol
- Edgar Rodríguez
from iPhone
Robert: we need more intelligent spam-follower-filtering on Twitter! We need to fix this.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
@David +1 I think auto follow is such a bad idea to begin with,and people like Robert now even need to pay to unfollow these people.
- Steve Chou
from IM
How much did SocialToo charge for running the unfollow script?
- Shane
I'm in!
- rich brant
from iPhone
I heard its 25 dollars.
- Steve Chou
from IM
I've always been very picky in who I follow on twitter. I follow 40 people, and I can't guarantee that I see every single tweet. I don't scroll back usually, unless it's my "Real Life" column in Tweetdeck that couldn't fit on my screen.
- Tom Ribbens
My birthday is also January 18th, therefore you must follow me Robert! ;)
- Chris Luckhardt
from BuddyFeed
Thanks Steve! $25 is pretty reasonable. Wonder if anyone else will be jumping on the bandwagon
- Shane
Haha....I also threw the devil horns for Scobleizer...that should count for something. ;) http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Chris Luckhardt
from BuddyFeed
OK, let's try it! And what about Twitter?
- Alexei Zheglov
Thanks for your post. Last time I checked you follow me here on FriendFeed. OK not to follow me on Twitter.
- Pilgrim Five
Smart way to clean house.
- Jeremy Chone
u have already subscribing me although i am just a-staying-at-home mum =)). thanx scoble. u are really a nice geek. haha!
- zʍıɔ
Let's do it.
- Kate
this is like an awesome commentfest
- Edgar Rodríguez
You can follow me, but I never say anything. Oh.. wait....
- James Macgill
follow me!
- Tate DA FF MVP
from BuddyFeed
Sometimes the tortoise beats the hare after all... building organically based on getting to know people and interactions tends to avoid the ghastly spammers, seo peeps and bots
- Sally Church
Tap, tap... is this thing on?
- Yanik Falardeau
This is the best place to follow you. On twitter you only see post headlines, but friendfeed is where the conversation takes place.
- Michael Fidler
Ah crap. You're already following me :)
- Jason Nunnelley
I'm outside your sphere, but bootstrapping is bootstrapping right?
- Travis Bedard
Tuesday night for the first time in 2 months I UNfollowed everyone on Twitter who wasn't following me. Since you had UNfollowed me, yup I unfollowed you. My Twitter account is so /FUBARed! It only goes to page 506 to show who I'm following and after that it is BLANK! I don't even know if they show in my Home stream. So Robert, I value what you say. Know I can tweet profusely - but it's as @replies to others with the occasional micro-blog thrown in. Question, what DID I do to cause you to UNfollow me?
- Arleen Anderson
I hope you'll follow me...
- Shane Tilton
Follow me, eh?
- Joey Gibson
Trying to fill out those dropped Twitter follows?
- Jamie Elgie
Scoble: Have you convinced Guy Kawasaki against his "follow everyone that follows you" mentality?
- Kevin Pruett
please do what you must to have the most effecient feed mr scoble, the random will still creep through the cracks, ;)
- chaz2b
I still haven't really adopted FriendFeed, but I will get interesting here in time if you follow me.
- Lance M. Brown
How are your cleanup efforts coming along?
- Jennifer Ruggiero
Oops - I also meant to ask, Robert: how are you managing to follow the couple thousand that you are now re-following on Twitter? You must be using groups, I guess...any other methods? I find ~500 people to be a near max in terms of how many folks I can fully read.
- Lance M. Brown
Following your inspiration, I unfollowed almost 100 people last night and blocked about 1000 spammers, cam girls, MLM marketers, and the like. Twitter is more like it was a year ago, its almost like I gave my Twitter account an enema and it worked. Thanks for the original idea.
- Mark Edwards
Excellent!
- Don Strickland
Robert, I started out only following those I know and those I am genuinely interested in. I've only followed back a few of the people who've followed me. I have a second account that I decided to experiment with. I followed about 700 people on there. It has had about double the followers of my main account consistently. I am about to try some new tricks there with an auto-follow script I'm writing but I think I will stay the course with my main account.
- Paul Eck
Robert, I tried the "follow everyone" (almost) method for a short time - then I'd unfollow about once-a-week. Now I try to schedule a "follow new" once a week. TweetDeck's group feature makes following lots of folks bearable. So does FF, but you've been saying that for-ever!
- Kathy E Gill
I am just taking it slow.
- Rick Cogley
from iPhone
Hey.
- Kreg Steppe
I will follow you if you follow me (Genesis)
- Keith Barrett
I may not be smart, but I'm smart enough to follow you!
- John Pfaff
It occurred to me (and surely to someone before me), that different definitions of "following" might be a big factor here. If I'm following someone, it means I'm following along with their updates. But others might see themselves more as becoming part of a person's "following". Not that they are necessarily reading the person's stuff, but they are willing to be considered part of that person's inflated Twitter posse, as part of the influence-trading aspect of Twitter.
- Lance M. Brown
Robert, I think that the biggest thing that changed is not that you were "wrong" (to follow everyone) before but that the Twitter population has changed so much. A year ago, pretty much everyone on Twitter was real, and interesting - now there's so much automated gaming the system going on that the signal to noise ratio has gotten unbearable. So I think anyone who cares about more than...
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- Matthew Blaisdell
I can't imagine how it would happen technologically, but it would be great if there was a way to ditch followers who weren't actually reading your tweets.
- Lance M. Brown
Enjoyed recent posts and look forward to more from you! Keep it up.
- One Degree Connected
I don't want to be left out please!!
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Your most active followers are on FF. No loss.If you really wanted to make a bold statement you ought to have blocked all of your followers and started from scratch.
- Benjamin Taylor
Been a while since I put you and Shel On the record...Online
- Eric Schwartzman
blah.
- imabonehead
Good article Robert. I honestly enjoyed the perspective. I found the same to be true, but on a much lower scale, of course ;-)
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
i'm in!
- Criz
I don't get it - so now you are using Twitter kinda like a normal person, and its some kind of miracle that it works better?
- Nick Lothian
I'm impressed you can keep up with 1600 people. I have trouble enough with the little amount I have. I did find that making FriendFeed imaginary friends and putting them in groups for those I'd like to read occasionally (but not on a regular basis) has helped a lot
- Tamara
Follow....how about some promotion!
- Bob DeMarco
i'm in
- Joshua Smith
from twhirl
9/11 Was an Inside Job
- bill giltner
Stop it, or I will have to get a restraining order.
- Sriks7
In my mind I'm important enough to follow ;-)
- Jonathan Callahan
Hello Robert....Whatever your favorite genre is...http://listen.grooveshark.com/#...
- Michele Lorito-Chase
Looks like you have a lot of work to do following everybody.
- Corbett Barr
now i'll have to write something interesting...
- Robert Littlejohn
me! i offer nothing but the warm feeling of having accepted a ff reject.
- Marco
ok. so how will you filter the noise now
- Kfir Pravda
Ooo, I've won the lottery. You'll follow me now. Wheeee! (how do you have the time to go through all of the names by hand? VA assistance?)
- Peggy Dolane
Great :)
- Baard @ Pixum
Interesting trend on twitter - I always wondered what sense it made to follow tens of thousands of people, too much noise. I'm finding it hard enough to follow 2900 (looking to cull even that down as I mostly tweet about 30 people!)
- Tia Singh, Life Coach
211th comment: WTF
- Geer
Good :)
- ★ Soner Gönül
I like your ability to influence so many people. I'm following you (mostly here - on FriendFeed) because it's one of the ways to learn how you do it (but, please, do not follow me if you do not see anything you could learn from me :-).
- Hanna Wiszniewska
I would come up w/ a better vetting process.
- Joe
why would you do that?
- james
got to get a pic up so i can fit the criteria, I only follow 45 people and some of them are on thin ice ( Im lookin at you Scoble)
- James Hunter
"Where in The Net is Robert San Diego?" (cit.) :-)
- Luca Perugini
from iPhone
I'm not kissing your arse,but i do learn a lot listening to you.
- Paul Downing
@scobleizer why would you randomly follow people who comment in this post when you just got done knocking FFollo and having to unfollow a gazillion people on Twitter?
- Bryan Zirkel
Bryan: because I'm following people one by one and putting them into lists on my screen. Autofollowing means you aren't doing ANY of that thinking. Also, autofollowing will get you spammers, if they ever show up (and they will).
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: Read your blogpost and that's indeed what I look at to follow people too. No autofollow and even close friends have to tell something interesting for me to (keep) following. Friends who are new to Twitter (no tweets yet) get the benefit of doubt.
- Patrick Mackaaij
If you follow me, great, but if you don't I'll understand. :) And I ought to do some pruning myself...
- Grant Bierman
Let's give it a try. :0)
- Toma Kazakov
I still don't understand how you want to follow someone who just writes a comment over here. Well, this is not the first time. I did not understand why and how you followed 100k people. I find it hard to properly follow 100 people.
- Sumanth Kolar
Sumanth: obviously there are degrees of "following." When you read the New York Times, do you read the entire paper word for word? I don't. Same when I'm following. I only get random slices of some of my lists. Others, which have 500 people on them, get 100% read.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still here . . . although tired after teaching all day. Louis Gray came to my PR class at SFSU and WOWED the 50 students [except for one who thinks we are making too much of social media] We won't be following him.
- Shari Weiss
I like cheese!
- Paul Puri
Shari: Louis wows me too. Glad to see the class is getting into it.
- Robert Scoble
He he :)
- Richard Holas
I still like the "stranger stream" of Twitter vs "friend feed" of other applications. I don't feel the need to read all tweets from everybody - and tools let me check my fave tweeples. I think mass unfollowing destroys some of the social contract - Robert you are lucky because you are well liked and can do some risky things but companies for example (not Brands of One) would be in...
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- Laurel Papworth
As @charleneli predicted back in January, 2009 will be the year of de-friending on social networks. It's here.
- Mark Evans
Laurel: yeah, you have to navigate these waters carefully if you are representing a brand, that's for sure!
- Robert Scoble
you can put me on your boring list...
- Charles Tanton
i will not get followed back: not powerful, don't have a brand, not a news maker... but i kinda understand the reasons
- Dani Martínez
I still think it all goes into how you use twitter. If your using it as a communication tool it depends on if you are looking for broadcast or 2 way. Its interesting to watch as some of the bigger names turn back from the broadcast and go back to the 2 way.
- Luke Kilpatrick
@Robert so when you're taking in information from FF do you have a feed of several dozen/hundred "key" people and then categorize the rest, or are you mainly searching? Do you utilize groups at all or mainly just rely on what comes across your feeds? I guess I'm curious as to how you're using FF to collect information.
- Bryan Zirkel
I have found Twitter becomes noise rather than a conversation once the following/follower thing gets over a certain mark. I think this is the dirty little secret of Twitter - if it just turns into white noise, rather than a filter, then it becomes less than useful.
- Michael Liss
I'm interested in how we'll all feel over the next few years as social networks continue to change and more people and organizations get on them. Obviously, many of us are getting fed up with spammers and are unfollowing them on Twitter and Facebook. I am also having a hard time keeping up with new subscribers on FriendFeed because I know less about them from their profiles and have to...
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- Cathryn Hrudicka
BTW, I feel like I'm finding lots of interesting new people to follow from these discussions that Robert and others are holding on FF. Cool!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Am I too late to comment and get followed?
- Hichame Assi
I'm definitely around :)
- KyNam Doan
Aren't you following me already? If not, you should be! LoL
- Thomas Ward
I'm definitely late to be followed. :D
- Faraz Mullick
I don't get it but ok :)
- Parvez Halim
LOL! I follow those I find interesting and which can give me useful information. And hope someone follows me for the same reasons.
- Flavio
Very interesting post - I've always thought that you guys who follow loads of people must get completely swamped by noise! Like you, I've found it useful to follow companies I use that have interesting products like Zoho and Evernote as a way of keeping up to date with their latest innovations. Excellent idea spelling out your "follow criteria" - it needs to become standard etiquette for social networks so that people don't get offended when they aren't followed back :) .
- David Meredith
aren't you doing the same thing here, that you did in Twitter? Choose carefully who you follow, filling your brain with pollution doesn't make you smarter
- Allison
Just finished reading the Mashable post on your unfollow exercise. It's attracting attention from all the other big names now.
- George Hall (Australia)
Very interesting indeed, I only to unfollow a few, cause I just never had auto follow on.. So now I just unfollow the ones I'm bored of..
- Jaap Willem
Seems like a good idea. Although Louis Gray also has a few valid points on his latest blog post why it might be a mistake http://bit.ly/19UKxk
- Silver Hage
I've never understood the auto-follow procedure on any social network. Even on Facebook, where it is obligatory, one can still lower the noise by simply hiding the updates of those who want to follow you, but perhaps also have little personal connection and therefore can be hidden.
- Noah Gray
It seems like the unfollowing was the easy part. Choosing who to follow again must have been a chore. I think it is crucial in twitter (and FriendFeed for that matter) to have a clear out every six months or so otherwise you get bogged down in an information feed you don't really care about.
- Chris Nixon
I can totally understand why you had to do this. I'm following 2700-ish folks on Twitter and I need 3 groups to manage it (using TweetDeck). I feel I am keeping up with most of my local community and the general tech community at large though I'm sure I'm still missing quite a bit of stuff from people who are not in the 3 groups. I also wonder how much more I can actually handle.
- Ken Seto
Um... well, I made something of myself, but then I didn't like what I made, so now I'm doing it all over again. Not sure how that fits with your criteria! Plus, I really don't have a brand or any influence to speak of. I do look great in boxers, however.
- Mark Jepsen
OK, OK, changed my picture. Instead of a green clock (a clock is my personal brand) I put a picture of myself. A lot of people told me to do that....
- Bora Zivkovic
I am still looking for info on holographic technology being used for news delivery. Perhaps it's a technology that hasn't even been invented yet or is sitting on a shelf somewhere. What say you? http://specialdee.wordpress.com/2009...
- Denise
Hoping your new look account has had the desired effect. No need to follow me, I'm not the interesting type, I'll just be glad if your insights, links & content continues. Congrats & good luck
- JanLawrence
Here's what's interesting, Robert, I've noticed an uptick in followers even if you reply or RT or like someone's tweet, not just if you follow that person. Then again, perhaps that's the intent - if you like or RT someone's idea, that's a kind of stamp of approval.
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Hej hej!
- Peter
The Scoble Pendulum.. How long till we go back to FOLLOW!! FOLLOW!!! FOLLOW!!!! ? :)
- Ade
I did a purge on Facebook for the same reasons a few months ago. It's under 300 and it's people I actually care about. I've come "this close" to running a purge on Twitter but haven't yet. Maybe this will spark me to do it. I've kept FF tight from the beginning.
- Rob Williams
moving from FB to FF ... fewer, longer, more meaningful threads. welcoming your follow. cheers
- marc calamia
ok, you´re following me already :-)
- Torsten Eckert
alright - follow me... - thx in advance Robert Scoble...
- Nilesh
All that commenting in the past counts for nothing?
- Kevin Gamble
Hey Robert... Great post... On FriendFeed, I increasingly put people without meaningful and valuable content on a separate feed that I rarely check... Its a more "sensible" way to unfollow, i think... I only unsubscribe if I get pissed at someone etc. I wish, FF gave users the option to only unsubscribe from comments and likes (but keep the main feed). This would be a good tool to control the noise...
- Onur Kabadayi
I agree with Robert (duh!). I very briefly made the effort of checking out the new follows and deciding whether to follow back. I think once I hit a thousand I shifted to a model of occasionally saying, "If you want me to follow you, talk to me." Hit two thousand and quit saying anything or checking followers. I don't care if they follow me as long as they either say useful things like real people or don't talk at all. I've never autofollowed back. This strategy works for me.
- Patricia F. Anderson
I have a large difference between people I follow (around 2000) and people who follow me (around 1800) - I choose people who are important sources of information. People choose me if they think I am an important source of information to them. I never thought it would have to be a one-to-one relationship as to who is useful to whom: some are informative, others are good listeners and learners. I learn from people I follow and I hope my followers learn from me.
- Bora Zivkovic
I also think that those of us who follow larger numbers of people don't use the stream in the same way. It is more dipping in and out of the stream, trusting that the important stuff will be repeated enough to float to the top, engaging with conversations of the moment. I wrote a blogpost on this earlier this year: http://etechlib.wordpress.com/2009...
- Patricia F. Anderson
Someone told me twitter can be separated into two types. (id say at least two)
- Kay Proskin
Scoble, I am beginning to think you are a cult leader :). Look at all these comments! I am using FF more and more these days... Useful for eGuiders.com that's for sure.
- Marc Ostrick
I'm not sure your following me.
- Amit Morson
Hey Scobie :D Follow me !
- paniaguai
I like Robert. He was one of the first people I followed on Twitter and brought me to FF. But I don't understand why people are desperate to have him follow them. Status? Some kind of virtual autograph?
- Tech Introvert
What the heck. Follow me if you like. I'll be as entertaining & informative as I can.
- Aaron Schaub
from iPod
Been considering doing the same. Your post just might be the flame that lights a fire you-know-where to get it done.
- Kate
Well done! Who need followers that aren't reading your tweets anyway.
- Sean Rasmussen
I just want a toaster!
- ZuDfunck
I'm considering doing same once I'm more confident in my use of FriendFeed. I RT'd this and it resonated with at least one of my followers.
- Tony Hollingsworth
'Hand-crafted personal network' is the meme of the moment, and whilst I can see the workmanship, where's the value going to be for you, Robert, in following this rag-tag (no offence people :) ) of folks from a gazillion different verticals. (OK, so they're mostly life scientists).
- Andrew Spong
I use to want to be Bob Dylan. Now I am not so sure.
- ZuDfunck
um.....
- Spencer
My take: you can't be an authentic, credible voice to your community if you let 'sex & dollars' spammers hang on to your coattails. Spam followers matter.... in a bad way. Allowing them to be associated with you diminishes your potential value to genuine followers. It's a pain. It takes time. It's worth doing. More on this, if interested: http://tr.im/vJwb
- Andrew Spong
I'll have mine to go.
- ZuDfunck
Hope to see more "old fashioned blogging", like it better than tweets. Tweets are bound to disappear into oblivion the moment they're posted.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
"Spam followers matter.... in a bad way." - I certainly agree with this. I block pornbots just as quickly as they follow me. I'm less vigilant about the commercial follows, but usually they go away by themselves after a while.
- John Craft
You're already following me here (don't care about twitter tough), so i just hope you don't un-follow, even though you probably don't understand what i'm talking about most of the time, since it's in portuguese.
- Diego Sana
So what happened to the advantages to following so many people you always talked about?
- Bas
Thanks for connecting here, still learning all the advantages of FF
- carece
@Andrew Regarding spam followers and the idea that allowing them to follow you somehow dilutes your credibility, I just have to disagree. To me that places the burden on the wrong person. I don't have time to waste pruning those who follow me, unless they are overtly annoying.My stream is public, they can follow me anyway. What matters to me is that the spammers leave me alone. If they don't, I block them. If they keep quiet, I don't care.
- Patricia F. Anderson
What is important is not who follows me, but who *I* follow.
- Patricia F. Anderson
Follow me if you want, but I gotta warn ya, it's scintillating stuff!
- Pierce Presley
Funny my twitter feed is much noisier but I have been very selective on who I follow. I have tried to make the feed relevant and actionable. At times I post things that seem out of the norm on my twitter feed but that is mainly for the few people who follow me that don't get it but I am trying to keep up their interest level. I also control who follows me, yes this breaks the model but I think the follow everyone model was broken and reckless
- Richard Gallo
Am I interesting? Dunno. I'm often controversial, tho. ;) BTW, we met in person at a Pittsburgh Blogfest, but I really don't expect you to remember that.
- Eric Williams
Enjoyed the post. I just started Twitter a few days ago to get away from Facebook. I like friendfeed the best - can't wait until it becomes more mainstream.
- Robby Parker
Awesome move. Consider that my comment please :)
- Charlotte Barker
friendfeed is definitively more evolved that Twitter. Conversely, user bases of Twitter is still its real (and unique) point of strenght...
- Marco Castellani
Don't want you to follow me (unless you find my stream of interest) but it's quite interesting the number of people that comment to get you to follow!
- Ben Drury
Hey Robert! So, I would like to talk to you about a social media company I'm working with right now. They launched a few months ago and their trajectory and momentum is pretty amazing. Oh, and I started unfollowing the noise in my Twitter after I commented on your blog post.
- Gregg Le Blanc
I'm asking the same thing Bas asked... what about your video on the benefits of following so many people? I took a stab at that method of madness by starting to follow all kinds of people, and following anyone that followed me... but I always felt like I was missing good content from good people because of all the "spam". I started to use TweetDeck to create groups/columns for...
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- Timothy Federwitz
@Patricia - reminds me that I should probably review all my twitter followers and thin things down. :)
- JA Castillo
thanks
- Keith
I like conversing with interesting people. Sometimes that means commenting to get followed, @cogiva. ;)
- Eric Williams
Hi Scoble!
- Pete Gilbert
I did almost the same thing - unfollowed about 1000 from my 1500, no attention is way better
- Maarten den Braber
Couldn't agree more. It's about time we all grew up. BTW Don't follow me. :-)
- Gee Ranasinha
Robert what's the deal with Twitter?
- stockmanmarc
Your post makes good sense. I didn't auto-follow & still find folks to unfollow because their noise gets too loud.
- Debra Ellis
Very clever. I imagine the signal to noise is sooooo much better.
- Chris Brogan
I've been thinking about unfollowing a bunch twitter folks as well. I'll look at SocialToo again. My initial experience with SocialToo wasn't good. However, it was during their infancy.
- Ron Hudson
I don't blame you at all. Leo was all over that yesterday.
- Daniel B. Honigman
why would simply leaving a comment prompt you to follow me?
- David Wescott
You're not going to change your mind and mass unfollow us are you?
- walidmREALTOR
Sup! :-)
- Jon Winters
I suspect it identifies you as a real person interested in dialog, David.
- Eric Williams
Followers are currency and you have plenty to spend
- Lee Odden
Bob, did you do anything on Twitter recently ? Did you massively refollow people ? Seems like you screwed up Twitter : down for a while... ;-)
- Enikao
Follow me! @carloscomputers
- carloscomputers
very cool timing with just before twitter goes down hard! well done Robert! @crbrowning
- Colin
@davidorban
- David Orban
I've followed you and have really enjoyed your posts. I think I would miss that
- Tom
Good to hear that your experiment has stopped the spam @lindsaydavies
- Lindsay Davies
ciao Robert!
- alex
Your ego is amazing. You make it seem like it is a special deal to be followed by you. I'm glad there are many very bright, talented people here who follow others, regardless of class, education, social status and not based on some snobbish criteria.
- RuthNH
DON'T follow me! I write in Italian :-)
- Lorenzo Strambi
Here I be
- Robert
Wow, this is a lot of comments. And kudos for following Followable people who have something interesting to contribute to your day. I'm glad you did it, because that means you'll find AND share more interesting things. This, in turn, makes you more followable too. Thanks for seeing the light, so to speak.
- ax0n
You killed twitter.
- Melissa Pierce
and now with twitter down, many will flock to here!
- Mark V. Fusco
Did this take down Twitter this morning Robert?
- frank barry
That must of taken a long time :-) I've always been a fan of twitter, but I must say they have struggled in the last few weeks. We are working with their API on a project and their seems to be an issue every other day that causes problems. Do they have what it takes?
- Chris Nadeau
I follow under 200 people and it's great. I can't imagine 1k+ . I add about three or four a month.
- Mike Janicke
I unfollow people when I find I ignore their tweets/updates. After reading your blog, I think we ALL need to be more judicious.
- Janet Barker-Evans
Is this why Twitter is down? LOL! Can't check to see if you unfollowed me. Hope not. You, Shel Israel, and Jeremiah Owyang were some of the very first people I followed way back before Twitter even had 100,000 people on the service. -- It's been a fun ride but, of course, the spammers always show up to make things difficult.
- Brenda Young
How do you really know if you should be following someone until you follow them for a while? Sometimes I don't start talking to someone until I see a common interest, then I tweet back and we start talking, but that could be months later. I don't follow everyone back, but I follow back those that interact. I will unfollow once I see that won't happen, or I don't like their tweets.
- Nadine Gilden
Twitter is victime of it own success, they have to re learn how to scal better, but more important they have to learn to share better.
- abdellah
looks like you'll need to follow at least 343 people LOL
- Shari Weiss
Friendfeed takes over for twitter finally?
- Thomas Resing
@Patricia I don't want potential followers to be put off by who is following me. I wouldn't want them to think I care more about have n+1 followers than I do about what they're going to see if they review who I've allowed to follow me. Not to cull spammers suggests I care more about my experience than theirs. To a great extent, the quality of their experience will determine the quality...
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- Andrew Spong
1600 ... isn't that a big number too? It could be you'll think again before you follow every one here :)
- Mario Gastaldi
Hi... do I get a follow?
- Jason Mayoff
If you are already following me. Will you double follow me? :)
- Brady
Still waiting for my Building 43 t-shirt. Not that I'm bitter or anything. ;-)
- Donna Tuttle
Respect your opinion Robert but we'll have to agree to disagree. Yes I despise all the FakePornSpamBots who follow me. I block as many as I can, but can't keep up. Our views differ regarding what is important to SEE! I treasure home Home stream! I read it, refresh, read, refresh and in minutes I have the pulse of the world... at least MY world! EVERYONE has something of value to share at some point. If I UNfollow tens of thousands, I will miss so much worthy of consideration.
- Arleen Anderson
Just another reason why it's good to diversify, I can still read your posts here. :)
- Luis Sandoval
Cheers!
- Jeff Wiant
Funny. I was catching up on news on Friendfeed for some odd reason. Great post; plenty for new and long-time users alike to consider there.
- Alex Howard
I'm still waiting for the ultimate tool to manage my followings - I can only manage to keep up with about 1/3 of those following me. I'd love to see something that can tell me what friends of mine also follow those that I am or those that are following me. Maybe it's out there and I missed it?
- TheDiva Rockin
Anyone interested in assessing the quality of their followers should check http://tweetblocker.com. It's pretty chastening. I aim to improve on my C rating. http://www.buzzom.com is a fun, fast way of decoupling yourself from non-reciprocal followers. You can select individuals to purge, or flush 50 random non-reciprocal followers at a time.
- Andrew Spong
Robert, your timing could not be better. ;-)
- Dave Martin
Great post, with perfect timing! Dang it, Dave Martin just took it off my lips.
- Vadim Lavrusik
I hereby rename this comment thread neoTwitter <waves at followers>
- Andrew Spong
/me waves
- Kevin Johnson
from iPhone
Awww, you gotta admit, saturation, the level of influence that you have, because of your high follower, count, is a tool of mass destruction. Seriously, did you think if you recommend an online service that people would not try it out? Was this an asassination attempt
- Peter Murphy
I'm glad i'm not the only one who misses /me actions from IRC, Kevin. ;)
- Eric Williams
With today's Twitter outage your timing is pretty stinking good, Robert. :)
- Chris Cree
Now to get the rest of the world to follow that same logic when it comes to follow/unfollow! I only started being more selective as Twitter (and everyone else) started getting aggressive with spammers or anyone that even remotely did a single spammy tweet. Now if only there were the same contact management tools available for the other social networks as with Twitter. No matter what though, I'll continue updating my status when I eat a peanut butter sandwich! (With Fluff of course!).
- Paul Monaco
Twitter couldn't handle the mass unfollow load, blew up...
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I've been followed by Robert Scoble :-)
- David Finch
Follow iPolitics
- Jacob Kobi Gamliel
Now I think that it is time to think about a way to make money using Twitter.
- abdellah
@Mark, +1. When in doubt, the default delegation of blame goes to Robert.
- Dave Martin
what is critical mass for twitter? Too few and nobody interacts, Too many and spam bots overwhelm, Is it 1K or 2K needed to get a real experience?
- WarLord
Hmm can you unsubscribe from "comment notification via e-mail" in FF on a *specific* topic? This one :-)
- Patrick Mackaaij
Of course I thonk it is a different experience if you hand follow reading each bio from the beginning then these mass purges are unnecessary
- WarLord
I thought you already followed me. lol
- Duane-PreppyDude
Not sure if you do, but here I am...
- Aron Michalski
I am intrigued how RT addict will RT now?!! (ps: FF please don't post this to my twitter)
- abdellah
I have been keeping my twitter account private a majority of the time lately b/c I am going through a divorce, but I really kinda like it. Have been reducing followers as well as the number I follow.
- Jackson Miller
You should follow me here in FF and on Twitter too!
- Karthi
hopefully most of us have proven our worth beyond commenting on this single thread
- andy brudtkuhl
I like the way you operate, Scoble. Thanks in advance for the follow!
- Dr. Frank Ramblings, Ph.D
Nice way of doing it...
- Charles
No need to follow me unless you are actually going to engage in conversation with me.
- Jeff Hurt
If you're already following and we comment, will you unfollow? *wink Hoping all is well your way!
- Dayngr
4&5 are my favorite! Those are big reasons I decide to follow someone too.
- Kelly Mitton
I'm lucky. Have never had Twitter spam. But then again I'm no Scoble either :)
- Lori Reed
I am the peanut butter eating bot
- Benjamin Spector
If you are already following me on ff does that mean I get a cookie or something? ;-)
- Tomy Thomson
I'll add my name to the list. I came back to FF after the Twitter DoS outage. Maybe Scoble broke Twitter by all his unfollowing. He was the "glue" holding Twitter together. :-)
- Tom Newman
Robert: Here's the bit you missed off the end of your title here: .... and put them in that group I don't read :-)
- Jim Connolly
Hi Robert, greetings from germany.
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
add me for your social media and the practice of law news!
- Rex Gradeless
Great post. I'm sure that some people might say that this kind of mass unfollowing will hurt Twitter, but I think it's just the opposite. Users who are following people they have no interest in just to pad their own numbers are diminishing the meaning of "following."
- Mark Denton
@Ulrichmargarita
- Ulrichmargarita
To stave off being unfollowed we need to comment here ya say?
- Jason
you are already following me here... perhaps you'll consider re-following me on twitter too
- Michelle
I don't know how you ever did it the other way. I am not in the tech world near as much as I used to be, which wasn't a whole lot. I just followed some random people I saw on SMugMug-related people on here when I started. You were one of them. I had no idea who you were (and still don't :-), but you talked about Twitter a lot too, which got me on there as well. Both services have really...
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- James Schipper
Follow away!
- Ferdinand Perez
ok 400 jackpot
- abdellah
Quality over quantity in all things, including (perhaps especially) Twitter. Loved your friending methodology -- those are the same rules I've applied since being on Twitter. Posted them onto Posterous to share the love with credit to you: http://lorilaurentsmith.posterous.com/
- Lori Laurent Smith
it's not about unfollowing, it's about filtering...
- Barak Hachamov
I started out following everyone on Twitter.Then I got wise. When someone's stream becomes more noise than signal, that's when I consider unfollowing. I realize that threshhold is different for everyone, but I'll take "what I had for lunch" over a dozen bogus "marketing tips" any day.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
Well, I am trying to use FriendFeed more after watching Scoble's video on all those monitors he had up. I'm not a big consumer of information and don't own a TV but this online social stuff has been a perfect fit into my life because I can connect with people who are fountains of knowledge on a specific subject or are "human mashups". I like both!
- Adria Richards
Why !?
- Bertrand Soulier
from iPhone
I've been reading al of this unfollow bits, and this point of yours:
- Donna
Hey, I think that today you might make your point about FriendFeed being more interesting than Twitter. Hope you are well. Talked with @fransteps this morning and she is excited to work with you at Rackspace.
- Kami Huyse
hi
- George Desmyter
I would appreciate the follow, thanks!
- Jeff Reisdorfer
I've been reading all of this un-follow posts lately, and this point of yours in WHY you unfollowed: "#2 Because I personally care about everyone I am following their noise level is a LOT lower. ." Is exactly what I do. And now I am starting to understand Friendfeed more. and using posterous to do aggregate posts. So is this overload making more people sit up and think first? I think so. At least the intelligent ones.
- Donna
I love you Scoble! ;)
- Carol Levesque
with all due sycophantism :)
- jeff hammond
This is a great move, Robert. It's also a lot more human...I was almost convinced that you were the only person who could actually drink from the fire hose without choking.
- Steffan Antonas
That sounds fair. After this morning, I've renewed my love for FriendFeed and Tweetworks. Until the next DDos attacks, of course. I will miss the fake porn stars, but I did when I moved from L.A.
- Scott Pierce
Steffan; I agree...there is no way anyone else could do what Robert S. does. It's good to see him become human.
- Robert Jones
This has been my problem for about the past six months. I routinely go in and unfollow, get the noise level down to where I want it, and then end up following back a bunch of new people, some of whom I'm incredibly grateful to get to know. When I had track, it was a whole lot easier to manage the stream, but I suspect even that tool would now be out of hand. I have a set of rules for...
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- Karoli
hee hee. i am commenting not so much to beg your follow but what a clever pitch:)
- Tresha Thorsen
Robert - I have not read all 416 comments so if this was asked and you answered forgive me. What was the all of a sudden revelation that caused you to reverse stance on Twitter Followers?
- Jeff Vreeland
It's difficult to maintain and filter a list on all the social networking sites. I cannot even imagine maintaining the kinds of lists you must deal with, Robert.
- Jeremy Brooks
Dude, you broke Twitter! When you unfollowed all of your 100,000 the other day you pulled the rug right out from under it, so it fell down and now it can't reach its beer. :-)
- Robert Morrison
Actually I felt rather sad being fav'ed by you on FriendFeed then dumped.. But again. I get more from you from FriendFeed, so oh well, stop talking about Following and Get on more with Tech! :P
- Du Senyao Peter
Me Me! lol!
- Bill McGehee
i like the idea of importing favorite tweets into friendfeed. i haven't used that favorite feature much because i haven't seen any real use in it. thanks!
- Jonathan Blundell
When twitter is down I always wish I could tweet: checkout friendfeed. Nevertheless, how will following folk that leave a message here really improve the quality of your input? While I don't want to judge many of the fine folk on this thread, are they all that interesting? In other words, isn't this the start of the same problem you had on Twitter...
- Jon Mountjoy
what like here? this is a comment :)
- michelle harris
Barak - isn't filtering just unfollowing while pretending you're still following? ;)
- Matthew Blaisdell
Well to bounce back on your Twitter is down comment I think it is time to watch this video again http://www.youtube.com/watch... Hilarious!
- 77Agency
Robert, I'm glad you decided to stop auto-follow (finally). :)
- Veronica Sopher
I'm in
- Jeroen Sangers
from Nambu
works for mw
- Brendan Jackson
from twhirl
Robert, but why clutter your FriendFeed stream? This comment is not to get you to courtesy follow me on FriendFeed, think you've established you've changed your thinking. :)
- L.P. NEENZ FALEAFINE
OK, I have enough people to follow so I will close the comments on this thread. Thank you everyone, I will try to get to everyone today.
- Robert Scoble
@centernetworks now is a great DLTT (Don't Listen to @turoczy) moment Boulder and Portland are both fine places.
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- Rick Turoczy
very, very few :) See you soon!
- Andrew Hyde
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It is amazing to me how the small 'mistakes' have the biggest impact (econ or city level).
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- Andrew Hyde
Seriously awesome in every way.
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- Andrew Hyde
If you had $3,000 in your pocket, which would you buy? Canon 5D MKII or Apple 17-inch MacBookPro. Discuss here:
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Neither
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
We are arguing about that on the CES bus. Geeks!
- Robert Scoble
Canon 5D MKII hands down.
- Andrew Hyde
pro for sho
- Bradley Will
Canon camera. I need a great camera more than a Mac
- Keith - @tsudo
5d Mk II
- Scott Loftesness
5D MKII, since I've already got a Mac Pro. ;)
- Cory OBrien
Have a Nikon D300 and my old MBP is on the fritz, so this woud be a slam dunk for me
- Gregg Gallagher
17 inch MBP because I love it. Then I'd buy a cheap 40D. I get more use out of a laptop than I do a camera.
- Michael Yurechko
Apple 17-inch MacBookPro with a matte screen.
- Arturo Puente
People who get a good cannon keep them forever, I go through a macbook every few years
- Michael Struening
Macbook Pro. Only because I'm a Nikon fan. D300 is definitely my choice of camera ;)
- Tamar Weinberg
mac
- David Banes
from IM
Mac
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
Would have to be the MacBookPro
- Jason Townsend
The Canon. A solid peice of hardware and I'm after a camera
- Mo Kargas
5D MKII of course.
- Jeremy Franklin
The Canon. I'd have so much more fun with a zippy camera than a Big Mac.
- Mike Neumann
Probably the computer. I'm happy with the first gen 5D I'm about to buy and as awesome as the camera is, the MBP doesn't need another $5K in lenses.
- Derrick
Neither, you need at least twice that for glass & equipment to get the "rig" you should want for a Canon MKII - sorry, 3K isn't enough for that toy; and spending 3K on disposable technology (Mac equipment) isn't a wise investment.
- Enrique Gutierrez
MBP....i miss my macs!
- Brian Bufalo
5D MKII hands down. I can hold onto the memory cards until I get to a desktop :)
- Austin
Without question: 5D mark II
- Rodney L.
MBP - it's a means of production for me, once i make some extra cash with it I can always buy the 5D ;-)
- Warren
which are you going to get more utility from? I'm guessing the Canon.
- Peter Warnock
I already have a 5D MKII but I would take another one in a heartbeat, or a couple of nice L glass
- Bill Pennington
5D Mark II..... no doubt.
- Albert K
Canon, without a doubt.
- Brad Butner
Definitely the MacBook Pro...but then again I'm not a photographer.
- Charlie Flowers
Canon
- Tyler (Chacha)
from IM
Neither, I'd use it to buy food for a year.
- Will Higgins™
Considering I can make quicker cash with my Photography work I would say the Canon 5D MKII and then I would buy the Apple 17 inch MacBook Pro with some of my earnings!
- Patrick Greer
5D Mark II. And then throw the remaining towards some new glass.
- Andy Hannon
2k into the bank, 1k for computer upgrades and other stuff.
- Grant Bierman
5D Mk II everytime ... unless I don't have a Mac at that particular time ...
- Stephen Taylor
I would go for the Macbookpro
- Troy Malone
5D MKII...already have a MacBookPro and I'm willing to ditch my Nikon gear!
- Dan Shust
Canon 5D MKII since I already have the 15" MBP.
- Alan Le
I don't need either one--but I think the Canon would have much better resale value--so given the choices: Canon.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Canon 5D MKII - for sure! - I really want one.... :(
- Brad
MBP - not a photographer
- Matt Faulkner
A 50D and a fast lens. ;-)
- D. Lambert
I've already got the 15" unibody so I'd go for the 5Dmkii
- Sparky, a big deal
If I didn't have a laptop, then I would get the 17" MBP. If I already had a lappy, then get the camera...
- William Sellers
Well, I recently moved from a 30D to a 5DMII because it was a huge upgrade for my "system". With a 2 year old Macbook Pro still serving me well for my needs, it's an easy decision. Additionally, I can't see using a 17" notebook over a 15 for portability sake, I'd just as well get an iMac and keep using my Macbook Pro for mobile use.
- Ryan
Aren't you in Vegas? I think there are a few other options in front of you..
- LA Snark
5D!!
- Wil
The camera. I have a new macbook already.
- Jim Williams
The 5D is more than a $3k investment. It's $3k upfront but thousands in lenses, flashes and other gear over the years.
- Michael Yurechko
Canon 5DMIII...
- Greg Kamer
MacBookPro 17-inch. I am a Nikon guy. So, Canon 5D MKII if I had $7K for all the lenses, too.
- Chintan Zaveri
The camera! I already have the 15" MBpro. 17" is just too big.
- Sherry Main
My 1 yr-old MacBook doesn't thrill me; it sits on the desk unused, and I just couldn't pay more than $200 for a camera, unless I was dreadfully rich.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
5DMKII - sell some images on istockphoto, and then buy an MSI Wind and install OSX. It is faster than my 15" MBP!
- Darren Mak
Definitely the 5D MkII
- Christopher Chan
$3,000 worth of NOODLZ
- Bwana ☠
MBP. I just got a brand new camera.
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
100 shares of CRM ;D
- barl0w
What would I do with a Mac?
- drsPIX
5D MkII - want! I already have a Mac, iPhone, 2 PC's and a laptop. <sigh> gadget budget is small right now though.
- Jim Bergman
canon 5d. already have a 15 mbp
- Kiran Patchigolla
5D MK II You can always get the Mac later.
- Yu Yu Din
I'd pay my bills and buy some groceries.
- ::Kristen::
Apple 17-inch MacBook Pro.
- Chris Luckhardt
What's an Apple 17-inch MacBookPro and why would a person need one?
- Michael Krigsman
Mac book pro
- Randy
MacBook Pro because I have neither a mac or digital SLR and the Mac does many things where as the canon does one thing well/
- Bryan Lee
Canon 5D MKII
- منصور
I'll take the MacBook Pro
- Rob
MacBookPro...or a Martin 12 http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product... and use the difference to buy a copy of logic pro for my 15" macbook pro
- Armen Chakmakjian
I'll go for the MacBook. My heart beats nikon so....
- studio_juan
5D MKII - do you want to lug around that 17" beast?
- nicholas einstein
MBP - already have a nice Canon - but my Mac sits firmly on my desk
- shaun mclane
MacBook Pro, but I would need another $1200 for the 8GB of RAM.
- Shawn Hickman
5D MKII. Even though I already have one.
- Kathleen McGivney
Neither. Maybe 3 coins :). I have a Macbook Pro which I don't use often comparing to my PC. I am not into the consumer electronic stuff, only got a digital cam last year :).
- dexin
Canon. Can't believe Apple ditched the matte screen on the 17" - FCP users and photographers don't want a glossy screen - the idea of the 17" is the ability to use it out in the field for photo/video editing.
- Peter Clayton
So limiting, Robert! If I could pick whatever I wanted, I'd get one of those sweet Asus multi-touch netbooks coming out - and then use the rest to buy Yahoo! stock. :P
- Shawn Farner
MB 13'' and the external cinema display. MBP17 is huge to carry out
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
canon
- jtothea
17" MBP FTW! You should create a poll on SocialToo.com Robert, then we can see graphed results!
- Joseph
Craigslist in Cincinnati - 5D for 1200: http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/ele...
- D. Lambert
Wow, what a great argument! 82 comments in 17 minutes!
- Robert Scoble
MacBook Pro. I really, really, really want a new laptop even though my current MacBook works just fine.
- Nation Hahn
Camera. Droooooooooool.
- Alix Whitmire
Well part of it would have to go towards fixing my car, http://preview.tinyurl.com/9dz2kz. Then the rest would go towards buying a second camera body to be my main and at least one lens if not two. Then the rest would go towards bills.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Robert: Apple products plus awesome SLR cameras...response is a given :)
- Mo Kargas
the camera is nice - especially all the HD video. friend of mine in the movie post-production business reckons this sort of Camera will KILL the movie camera business in a few years time. especially at the low-budget movie (<$30 million) of the movie business. RED already making big inroads. much cheaper than an ARRI.
- Scot Mcphee
The MK II as I already have the MBP 17 inch...older but it works.
- Semipro
Canon 5D is the winner for me. Great digital photography is the gift that keeps on giving.... ;-)
- John Uppendahl
Well.... Given that I have 4 PC desktops, 2 PC laptops, and 1 iMac, all of which are operational and regularly used, AND that I suck at photography, I'm going for what's behind door #3: A whopping big HDTV -- which will get hooked up to the living room PC, of course. ;-)
- Joanmarie
17" Mac. Already have a camera. . .
- Scott Whitney
Nikon D3
- Bill Sanders
Macbook Pro for me. Would be my first Mac.
- Jim Bednarz
Nikon D3
- ThePicMan
MacBook Pro. Don't need such a super-duper crazy camera. Not a real photographer. But a very real Mac geek.
- Louis Gray
5D for sure!
- Daniel Pourasghar
I'd go the MacBook - but I'd also load it up with the full 8gb of RAM I see as an option (and not many people mentioning). Sadly, a nice 17" MBP setup it just over NZ$10k :(
- Mark Derricutt
MacBook Pro. Hands down. I'm a computer engineer, not a photographer.
- Logan Leger
well since I've already got a Canon 5D Mark II... hmmmm...
- Thomas Hawk
I'll buy neither. What I would rather do is try to buy one share of BRK-B if it gets to that price. :)
- imabonehead
The 17" Mac Book Pro, I already have a 5D MkII ;-)
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'd buy the camera, I have always loved photography and wanted to learn.
- R. Ferguson
The Canon, all the way man!!
- Finding The View
Apple! I don't like the fact of the hd video recorder on the 5D and I want the Sony alpha!
- Brandy Lea
Canon. 15" MBP is the largest I'll go.
- ronin
I would take the cash and build an ultimate gaming PC !!! :D
- ralphsaunders
When you buy an inexpensive camera, you really sacrifice quality, and that lack of quality endures (you want to keep your photos forever, right?). When you buy an inexpensive computer, that's not the case (I don't need a unibody case :)
- David Andrzejewski
Canon 5D - easy answer!
- Susan Beebe
Ouch, this one hurts. I suppose I can't opt for a Nikon equivalent to the Canon? If this is the choice, I'd opt for the MacBook Pro. But if I had 3K, I'd buy myself the Nikon D300
- Karoli
The Canon. A 17" laptop is too big unless you plan to use it as a desktop.
- Hartley Spurlock
Mac for sure.I have a first generation Macbook and I need a new one. Kaya Singer
- Kaya
I'd pay off my credit card. For all that stuff I, like, already bought.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
the Macbook pro but only because I need to upgrade my computer.
- Anna Lynn M.
the Camera for sure
- Tai
5d Mark II
- Jauder Ho
None - a super-gaming rig. :)
- carrotmadman6
Definitely a Canon 5D.
- Maria Colacurcio
5D Mark II - Hands down.
- Seagate
I would save it until I had between $8-15K for a CO2 laser cutting machine. I like my macs small, and while full frame sounds nice, I know I'm not nearly hungry enough to go pro in photography, so 40D suits me just fine.
- Jason Wehmhoener
That's a tough one because I have been wanting to get my first Mac (have to start somewhere, right?!) but am a hard core Canon fan/user. So if push came to shove, I would have to go with the Canon.
- Laura Zickus
Mmm, CO2 lasers.
- Mo Kargas
That would be either a trip to another continent or a Fujitsu LifeBook P1630, but it would not be either of the options in the question. I seriously cannot understand $3k for a camera, unless you're going to make that money back in a month or two WITH said camera.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Neither, I would invest in the stock market.
- DGentry
I'd prefer a D300, however no matter what brand I'd take the camera in a second over the MBP. Save up another $500 and get a Windows Notebook as well.
- Kenton
The Canon 5D MKII for sure. Cameras bring me a lot more joy than flashy computers. Though a 17-inch MacBookPro would be nice to edit those new photos on too ;-)
- Ian Holton
from twhirl
Probably the Mac. I would never carry around a DSLR. Too big.
- Rodfather
Neither. The new full frame format with HD Movies (wow! Woopee *rolls eyes*) is crap - only 3.9 FPS?! Who are they kidding?!
- Adam
Seeing my Macbook Pro is 5 months old. I would buy neither...but I would buy a MacPro with more RAM.
- Ryan
I take a cruise with Lindsay - big ass stateroom.
- Internet's Tad
Neither, I'd get a Canon Rebel XTi and build a new gaming PC, anything left over would go toward the new home NOC
- xero
I would take my lover to Italy :)
- Maryam Scoble
The Canon 5D, I find the photographic process calming, a welcome diversion from the ones and zeros.
- cornedbeefgents
Awwww :)
- Mo Kargas
If I had the $3,000, Canon 5D and a larger donation here http://tinyurl.com/daniela Pros: it's more portable, takes better pictures, and connects to my more compact 15" Macbook Pro. Of course, it doesn't work with my Nikon lenses, so...
- Lee Dale
Canon 5D MKII only cause I have a Macbook Pro. If I didnt it would be the Macbook.
- Bob Maltais
Nah. Patrick's college fund. 5D Mark 2 or the Macbook isn't all that exciting.
- Joshua Hayworth
cannon.I kill computers, so not worth spending 3 grand on one. Plus I have a (beat up) macbook pro already.
- InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Photos shoot at 3.9 fps, video shoots at 30 fps. @AdamGiovane
- Jim Bergman
The MacBook of course.
- Rob Fahrni
mac
- Vishy
5D, but I wish it had XLR audio.
- Gus
the new MBP, without a doubt ... my current ones needs a refresh (I'm accepting donations btw) ;-)
- Jeffrey Canton
Since I'll be getting the new MBP anyway, I'll take the 5D. BTW, is anyone keeping score?
- Brad Kligerman
I would buy the Canon, but of course, I would need a MacBook Pro in order to edit/view the photos the way they were meant to be viewed.
- Robert Peña
Blatant self-promotion, but if Robert used re-searchr.com it would keep score for us... I wrote it to suck down inline multiple choice selections so no ne would even have to leave ff
- James Ostheimer
Robert, you're asking the question that's been pondering in my mind from some time (albeit it used to be with the 15" and Cinema display v. 5D/a900/D700 -cannot make my mind-). I want to be able to make a decision before March. I think I'll be going for the Mac, since I might relocate in part of the world where carrying an expensive piece of art around my neck might be more dangerous than here, in JPN.
- Paul Papadimitriou
I'd go for a MBP, mine needs an upgrade and I just bought a 50D not long ago which is just fine for me.
- Andrew Trinh
from Nambu
I need cash! :)
- Randy
Some of us are Nikon people. Some of us are not Mac people. I'll just take the 3 Gs.
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Nikon D700 + 50mm 1.4 prime lens!
- Guillaume Lemoine
More lenses. My camera is fine, and this Thinkpad is a good 'un.
- Paula W
Seems like Apple design the 17-inch MacBookPro just can use in 3years.the battery can only use in 1000 times,1time per 1day,3years.But Canon 5D can take more beatuful pics for me,and can stand by me more than 3years.if i really have 3000dollers,i real do this.kick off 17-inch MacbookPro.
- jedorstar
from twhirl
Lenses, like Paula sez.
- Rob Kramer
Buy half and half :)
- Michael Forian
Wow, I came late to this convo. Well, for what it's worth at this point, I'd probably get the lappytop, sell my old MBP and then use THAT money to buy a cheaper camera. :D
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
Canon 5D MKII, no doubt. I have a 1.5 year old 15-inch MacBookPro which is still more than OK. Going from Canon 400D to a 5D MKII however would be a major upgrade.
- Rutger Blom
Macbook I think. I have a 40D but REALLY want the 5D. Which do you think you could get your hands on first?
- Andrew Smith
The 5D. The MacBookPro can wait.
- Chris Nixon
5D, I have enough laptops as it is.
- Amit Morson
The $2800 MBP becomes a lot more compelling when converted to 2080€.
- Brad Kligerman
I'm a Nikon guy but the 5D MKII has me seriously considering a switch
- Bryan Thatcher
from twhirl
As I don't like Macs and into my photography the choice out of the two is simple. :-) But I've rather spend the money on say the Nikon D3 and if you gave me an extra grand or 2 then I'd go for the Nikon D3X. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
from twhirl
Without though, the Canon 5D MKII. First up, you don't want to trust another "first gen" Apple product. And with the unimpressive lineup yesterday, maybe the 15" laptops are coming out real soon now, with similar features, and all quirks ironed out
- Colin Charles
from twhirl
MAC!!!
- Orli Yakuel
(Friendfeed needs a poll feature)
- Jérôme Flipo
5D over the MAC Pro.
- Robert Miller
MacBookPro - just bought myself a nice camera with a fracking big lens!
- Joel Hammond-Turner
Canon!
- Janet
Canon. I have a laptop and rarely use it - well not as a laptop. It sits on a desk as a permenant fixture.
- Ian May
Canon 5D mk 2 :)
- Joe Dawson
Camera, I never liked the 17". It's too heavy for a "portable"
- Melissa dela Merced
from twhirl
neither, a big ass HDTV :)
- Terry O'Fee
17-inch macbookPro is way too big. so I would go for the camera. Problem is I would need to learn how to use it then...
- Davide D'Incau
If you have good lenses to take advantage of the MKII (extra $3000 needed here), go for the camera!
- Joao Pedro
I would buy a Apple 17-inch macbook of course.! I don't have an apple and I would really like one. I have a camera thats good enough for me.
- Qbat
nor this neither that! i will send money to help people in Gaza or at least I'll send 1000 $.
- خیزران Has gone
canon 5d mk ii based on the videos I've seen - i mean just look at these http://is.gd/cP6x
- planetMitch
The Canon, surely. No use for a laptop that big.
- Ryan Sholin
5D over here too
- Simon Wicks
Macbook Pro 17!
- Greg
The camera. Already have three computers but have no camera.
- Martha
I am not pro enough to need the 5D, I am actually looking at a D60 or D90. But the 17 Macbook is something I can use :)
- TheSleepyGeek
I'd buy the Nikon D700
- David Parmet
from twhirl
neither - cash is still king
- viki saigal
its the lens, not the body - spring for L glass
- @jessewright
MacBookPro
- Stewart Rogers
New MacBookPro 17". I would probably get more use out of it than the Canon. But my, oh my, ya'll, the Canon sure is sweet.
- Matthew Freeman
5D - I don't need a macbook. I'm happy with my PC and laptop - they cover my my needs perfectly.
- Roberto Bonini
MBP.
- Michael Molinar
Donate it to @armano.
- Jim Mitchem
given my current status .. I am happy with my Canon XTi so I would go for the MacBook Pro.
- Kapil
5D, but that's cuz I've been saving up for one. A new MBP would def. be on the list of future purchases (current computer is 3 years old)
- Michael
Canon 5d Mk II, far more useful than the new laptop. More fun. One encourages you to sit around, the other encourages you to go out :-)
- Richard A.
MacBookPro, Canon sux. (OK, relax, just kidding. I'm a Nikon guy. I have no Canon lenses.)
- Trevor Carpenter
Canon!!
- Ivy /composmentis
from twhirl
I would buy the Mac, get a cheaper camera with the money I have left, and edit and enhance my videos using my Mac.
- Shevonne
I'd go the Mac route. I'm looking to buy one anyway and I've already got a camera. Might not be as fancy as the Canon do-dad, but I'll manage.
- James Ferguson
Wow 202 comments! How did I miss this thread? :)
- AJ Batac
17 inch MCP
- johnpiercy
The 17" MBP as my current 12" PB is on it's last legs and needs replacing - need rather than want for me
- Sally Church
The Canon. I already have a 17" MacBook Pro.
- Carmen
The Canon... even though I already have a 5D and actually need a new laptop
- Shawn Duffy
from twhirl
Macbookpro
- Roger Kondrat
I'd say the MacBook... you can do more with it.
- Dejim Juang
EOS 5D
- Julien Guyard
This would be much more enjoyable if there was some kind of poll widget along side comments.
- Michael Leggett
The camera..I find apple laptops overpriced for what they offer.
- Nick
Would be easier to see at a glance.
- Richard A.
I'd by the largest HD display I could...
- Clay Newton
Canon 5D MKII. huh.. no: a powerful Linux box
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
The MacBookPro, I have a Canon 30d but I do not have a MacBook
- Bob Gannon
I wouldn't want a 17'' monster of a MacBookPro and therefore would go for the Canon 5D MKII
- Donald Townsend
Neither. Both are overpriced. If no other options; I'd go camera.
- Wade Dorrell
5D, the 17-inch MacBook Pro is very big. Harder to find bags for it and its less portable.
- seanb
bank it, put in matress, done need either of those things, we need smarter devices that tell us the likelyhood of use-longevitiy in them, "i'm a camera you bought last year, you used me 9 times, i collect dust, owner- please resist replacing me unless you really really really need to, and the data suggests you don't.."
- Dan Rockwell
from twhirl
Not enough to buy what I want with the Canon, and I wouldn't be caught dead spending $3000 on a laptop. What a waste!
- Paul Puri
Neither. A $3000 laptop is not worth it just because of its branding.
- Spencer
ohh.. I can't choose. I want both of them... But if i choose, first canon, second mac... İ have canon 40 d and 15'' mac book pro. And i don't like mac's new screen. It's like mirror...
- devletsah
Spencer: as a recent PC to Mac switcher, it's more than brand. Much more.
- Ryan
I'd buy a netbook for the other three members of my family and put the remaining $2000 toward bills or savings. :)
- Steve Lowe
Agree with Aaron, love my 13" Macbook and really want the 5D MKII
- Kyle
Definitely the Mac.
- John Clifton
Is this thing still going? I can't remember if I replied to this yet, but I say it depends on what will benefit you the most. Robert, you are a photo-maniac. I know that you have a few cameras laying around the house, but I don't know how many Macs you have. You have to remember that a 17" laptop sounds great on paper, but I know that you do a lot of traveling as well, so it might now suite your means. Then again, I would never keep $3,000 dollars in my pocket ;)
- Michael Forian
of course the mac - doesn´t matter what the second option is...
- Dieter Schwarz
I would buy the Canon 5D MKII but being a Nikonian I would end up buying the MacBook Pro and feel no remorse :)
- Carlos Lorenzo
MacBook Pro. I need a laptop really bad.
- Nick Humphries
The camera. 17-inch laptops are fricking ridiculous.
- Andru Edwards
camera and a box of junior mints
- Morgan Haley
I'd definitely go for a MB Pro. My Rebel XTi and Panasonic GS180 video cam is doing me just fine.
- emon hassan
Forget the Mac, keep your current camera, and buy better lenses.
- Michael Krigsman
17 inch laptop is useless in term of mobility so I would go with the Canon
- Hadar Weiss
A Sony a900. :)
- Jeff Jones
Neither. I'd start with the Bonobo Pro Ubuntu Laptop for under $2000 and use the $1000 to max it out. http://system76.com/product...
- Internet Strategist
Impressive amount of comments here, this has to be the highest ever now right?
- Joe Dawson
I'm sorry, can you repeat the question: did you say a "camera", a "computer" or a "shark with laser beams"?
- Micah Wittman
save the money for tougher times. as much as I'd like the Canon, it's going to be just an expensive toy for me. and my three year old Inspiron works just fine for the most things I do on it.
- Franci Penov
from twhirl
5Dm2 because I already have the new MBP 15" 2.8Ghz. Mostly b/c the cam is more revolutionary than the 17", even though the 17" battery life is enticing.
- Thomas Bøhm
Wow, 250 comments - OMG ...FF is really growing ...YEAH !!!
- Susan Beebe
Yeah, this week has produced several >100 comment threads in my feed.
- xero
Not the 5D, but some body+the best lenses, that actually lasts longer. Laptops are out of date in months and often die within 18, cameras and lenses last a lot longer
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I would buy a Apple 17-inch MacBookPro, only cause I already have a SLR, so I dont need the Canon 5D MKII.
- Colide81 (James)
I would