If this is factual, and I have no reason to believe that it isn't, it's an important story. Not a suprise, just a reminder of how things are when the companies who are involved in the story also control the media reporting it. With companies this size, there is little they are not involved in, in some way, shape or form. As much as I enjoy Olbermann, he works for those guys, right up until he doesn't.
- Aron Michalski
from BuddyFeed
Greenwald tends toward the negative; however, I also find it suspicious that Olbermann has been sidelined at a point in the healthcare debate where the networks are participating in the GOP propaganda campaign.
- Karoli
Karoli, Olbermann is on vacation, not sidelined. He's been told to stop the Bill-o The Clown feud. I think there are two more significant bits to this story: 1. Bill O has been silenced from reporting embarassing info about GE's business dealings. 2. Richard Wolffe has two gigs: He's a paid corporate shill and he's a "news analyst." Neither NBC nor Wolffe disclose that when he's on the air as an analyst.
- Michael Markman
you guys are going to have to cut down on the windmill monitoring. The Republicans are the Washington Generals.
- Steve Gillmor
Note still haven't read the Salon story - too busy enjoying the Anil Dash comments
- Steve Gillmor
Well its common story that all the big news paper owners have a safe with juicy stories about the other owners which they dont publish - look what soft ride James Goldsmith got
- Maurice Walshe
My favorite bit, by Charlie Rose: "My point in response to that would be that we do need you . . . . Having said that, I promise you, CBS News and ABC News and NBC News are not influenced by the corporations that may own those companies. Since I know one of them very well and worked for one of them." That, to put it very bluntly, is bullshit. Anyone who has spent a few hours watching...
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- Steven Perez
Bullshit indeed. over the past three weeks, they have served their corporate masters well.
- Karoli
from BuddyFeed
Marketwatch talks about Gold and Silver prices (these are high because lots of people have been telling me to expect inflation next year). - http://www.marketwatch.com/news...
Where do you put your money if you are expecting inflation? Gold and Silver seem to be very attractive to investors now, with prices near all time highs. What else can you do to protect your money?
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Gold and Silver, I cannot argue with the theory. Problem is, if your buying into the hype on infomercials, with the byline of, "beat the recession, and buy our coins, we will beat the recession". I have been looking into shared purchasing options for barrels of oil. Oil is not going to stay at $40, and we will see it rise again.
- RALPH
Looks like we are heading for wage deflation/high unemployment and food and commodities inflation. Friggin' great!
- Paul Denlinger
if there is reasonable inflation - say 6% - rolling certificates of deposit (one @6 months, 1 @ 12 months, etc) is a pretty good bet. If we get hyper-inflationary I don't really think there is a "safe" strategy... Keeps me up at night.
- Brian Roy
Gold and silver are the ones I've always learned/been told about too. Though I have no specifically bought any myself. My main concern is that if I do convert my savings from fiat money (the dollar) to something else (if a tsunami of hyperinflation looks like it is coming) that I do it right. I do wonder if a "gold bubble" could possibly happen if people start doing lots of gold speculation again and the price gets out of control.
- Dean Clark
Brian I agree with you, does suck thinking about it so much. Luckly, myself being young, I don't have THAT much to lose.
- Dean Clark
If it was just me... Whatever... I can dig holes, swing a hammer, write code, be a sys admin... Whatever it takes. But I have 2 kids... What happens to them, their future... That keeps me up at night.
- Brian Roy
Dean: I think we're already in a gold bubble. It's interesting that my mom kept $50,000 worth of gold in her basement. We sold it at about $600 an ounce. Now it's about $1000. Stupid move, but I needed the money. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert - Check the link I posted above. But keep in mind that if we have deflation, which most people think we will have in the near term, these things can be nasty.
- Andrew
high inflation is is the dirty secret of how this crisis will be managed by reducing value of debt in future - think enormous new government debt = high demand for US dollars = strong currency = high import costs = inflation
- Vernonkell
colin - my understanding is the us is able to borrow @ 3% - if that is the case what is the value of "creating" inflationary pressure?
- Brian Roy
Robert - ouch I bought in at 55 and managed to hedge against the recent downturn - this one is a real mystery though as gold drops when the dollar rises - which IRS been doing recently as other currencies begin to waver .. How about yen ? Safe harbor?
- andrew
Don't buy gold, pay down debt and work on living with less. What you need is security.
- Christian Burns
Robert: So did it look like a mini Fort Knox in the basement? lol
- Dean Clark
Investing in precious metals if very short term. Think long term instead and invest in companies likely to accelerate us towards the singularity. Everyone wins and/or loses!
- iTad
Dean: it was a small bag with one-ounce coins. 50 of them.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Yeah I guess I wasn't thinking there. I saw $50,000 and wasn't thinking about the current $1,000 price you had just mentioned, Oops.
- Dean Clark
I have over 200 ounces of silver. I'm quite happy with my investment.
- Michael Forian
makes sense sell gold at its high point so you can " battle " inflation ? like someone on this thread said, the only way out is to reduce debt, learn to live with less, i know oscar wilde said that if u want to tell men the truth make them laugh, but look around you, its a carnage that we have sowing for since Reaganoimics. ( and then aint inhalin Clinton and Grenspan did us all in by...
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- atul abraham
from twhirl
@atul "Explain how exactly did Clinton and Greenspan sell homes to the unemployed? Banks used to loan money to their neighbors. Then the Fed let them package loans and sell them as "mortgage-backed securities." Once the mortgage and the bank got disconnected there was no longer any need to be sure that buyer was credit-worthy. Loan officers are educated and trained not to sell mortgages...
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- Phil Boiarski
I want to love Boxee + AppleTV but I have all kinds of problems with basic play/pause/ff/rewind functions on Hulu (using the Apple remote). Am I the only one struggling with this?
- Mike Doeff
Every person I show my Projector+MacMini+Boxee setup to is totally blown away. I strongly believe this is where daily lean-back media consumption is going. The quality is incredible. The on-demand functionality is awesome. Combined with tvrss.net to auto-download torrents (admittedly from current 'live' TV) and I've got everything I want.
- Dylan Parker
Yeah! Congrats Fred.. boxee FTW! :) Personally, I ditched my cable TV years ago wanting instead TV on demand - internet based. I can't wait till all that force-fed programming crap goes away and the user can select their own "program" schedule
- Susan Beebe
"Why would I not "hard code" strings? These suggestions don't seem that great to me. How about learning to type with your feet, or only using the mouse, or maybe code blindfolded? (or all three!) Somehow, people seem to have gotten the notion that doing things the hard way is somehow better or morally superior or something. It's not."
- Paul Buchheit
Not all strings are meant to be displayed on the live site. In fact, I'd say most aren't: you have logging statements, debug messages, intermediary / helper code (parsing the output of another program / generating input for another program), etc. I'd say: don't hard code strings if 1. you expect them to change, or 2.you use them more than once (and need the string to be the same in all places).
- Tudor Bosman
Even localized strings should still be "hard coded". Putting them off in a separate file is annoying and makes the code difficult to read and write.
- Paul Buchheit
Also, i18n and l10n are most conveniently done by wrapping the English strings in-place with a function or macro (and not by isolating all strings into a separate "messages" file) - see the documentation for GNU gettext, for example.
- Tudor Bosman
Is there some way to the original article from this comment? Anyway, I think the reason people object to Paul is that user-visible strings in code can indicate too much binding of user interface details to core logic. But pulling out strings doesn't really fix that (and neither does using HTML template files), it just adds mandatory layers.
- ⓞnor
Glen, I've done so much writing, cutting and rewriting of user-visible text that I really don't think it would have been easier for me to tokenize up front.
- Bruce Lewis
And yes, the advice seems silly. The only one that I could see being useful is #1 (which, interestingly enough, is the only one that didn't originate with the author of the article), but it has drawbacks: with a bigger font size, you fit less code on the screen, so you can look at less code at the same time. I believe that the drawbacks outweigh the benefits.
- Tudor Bosman
#1 and #2 - discussed above. #3: how many times have you used "register" in C? Knowing every feature of your favorite programming language does not a good programmer make. #4. Yes, useful, but don't fall into the "unit tests for unit tests' sake" trap. #5. Have you seen most open source code out there? It's... um... not always a good example to follow. Pick and choose carefully. #6. Use it, and teach yourself never to need it - your code shouldn't contain issues that static analysis tools can find.
- Tudor Bosman
How would you deal with #3 if programming in Io? There are no keywords. LOL
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#7. Don't refactor for refactoring's sake; sometimes the code is complicated because it needs to be complex. Generally, simplifying is useful, and refactoring is a good way to understand the code (and get your hands dirty). #8. Definitely don't start writing a compiler unless you know a thing or two about languages and compiler architecture - it's a fun thing to build, but don't pick something like this as a first programming project.
- Tudor Bosman
Fonts should be large enough to read easily, but their suggestion is from the silly "all functions should be two lines or less" rule book. Trying to use all keywords reminds me of people who try to use all HTML tags or all available fonts in their documents :)
- Paul Buchheit
Localizing strings is hard. How many of you know what genitive dates are?
- Gabe
Yeah, localization is nearly impossible if you want it to be really good in all languages. You should look into the "plural" rules for Russian (maybe Bret can explain).
- Paul Buchheit
As to hardcoding any kind of constants, I run into programmers who would take all my 1s out, define a constant (local, not in math.h or anything) and call it "one". Mind-boggling. This thing of putting all the strings in one file reminded me of old time C programs with all the global variables on top, because it is orderly. As to the font, I'd say if you believe that buy smaller screens and save money.
- Antonio Piccolboni
Mona - LOL - looking forward to it!! :) have a BLAST!!!!! wooo hooooooo!!
- Susan Beebe
I've been fortunate enough to enjoy a skype conversation with Mona's oh soooo sweet voice. And for the record...she was a little tipsy :)
- Mark Krynsky
I expect no less than drunk tweets from Mona!
- imabonehead
There are so many great speech bubbles that can come from this. Including "You see this thumb? You know what I'm gonna do with it?" to "I just got back from IHOP, where I asked if I could have extra Bacon, and guess what they said?" guy in background "Oh yeah, I could go for some Bacon"
- Will Higgins™
Spidra: I think that's another senator.
- Steven Perez
@Spidra: Apparently it's Robert Mendez, but I can't verify that.
- Will Higgins™
For me, it's the "Oh, snap" combined with the dude's expression that makes this hysterical.
- Micah Monserrat
"As somebody who has been in the Web development industry for seven years, self employed for five of those, I’ve seen many Web development companies succeed and fail. For those companies that succeed, there are two glaring things they do different from those that fail. - They outsource 85% of the work they receive - 50% of their profit comes from monthly, subscription based payments I’ve previously spoken about outsourcing so I won’t do that again. Today, I want to talk about recurring payments that are highly profitable, useful for both you and the customer, and can, if you let them, ‘make’ your business. First, I want to identify three types of recurring payments your Web development business could be bringing in each month."
- Gail Gardner
from Bookmarklet
[liked] for both the 'wrong' link (emergence ala Kauffman) and the 'right' link (be nice); two wins in one, and linked in an accidental but delightfully serendipitously interesting way.
- David HC Soul
"Thirty years ago, the leverage of the investment banks was like 4-to-1, 5-to-1. Today, it’s 30-to-1. This is not just a change of numbers. This is a change of fundamental thinking." - Gao Xiqing .... So if investment managers in China "get it" why don't the folks in Washington? .... ps. the exposure is greater than just the increase in leverage would indicate.
- David HC Soul
I love his mirror metaphor and this conclusion on some of the more exotic instruments: "If you look at every one of these [derivative] products, they make sense. But in aggregate, they are bullshit. They are crap. They serve to cheat people." Well said indeed, and the muck has not yet been cleaned in the house that Wall Street built.
- David HC Soul
David, to find folks in washington that 'get it', you need not look any farther than the GAO.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Michael, perhaps - but if they haven't been able to get the call for action message to Fed, Treasury, Congress, Exec branch, its been to no real avail.
- David HC Soul
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair
- Michael R. Bernstein
FriendFeed feels much more like a community than does Twitter
- Seth Greenblatt
You're right. Twitter sucks for conversations and it's irritating when people use it as such. Just been relooking at Friendfeed and still don't like it. Needs a better design. Not intuitive like Twitter. It's a great concept but fails in it's execution.
- Paul Povolni
Cant wait to see what Friendfeed does with its presentation over the next year. What if I want photos to be big on my screen? And for custom rss feeds, I should be able to customize the favicon by feed (add a simple upload img option).
- beersage
I was having a rare convo on Twitter last night and I found myself getting self-conscious that we were polluting that fast-paced stream of isolated statements. Personal conclusion: twitter no good for convos.
- Martha
I think Twitter is great for "blogging" your life throughout the day. I don't think it was ever meant for anything else, hence the proper syntax for each line for Twitter to read correctly is <username><verb><action>. It's Facebook status on steroids. Friendfeed though a bit more complex seems to be the place for virtual convos.
- Brian Fegter
Personally, I believe Profilactic is a better aggregator than FriendFeed. I'm here for the discussions.
- Bwana ☠
Bwana: why do you say that? I don't like the name, for one. It is a major turnoff.
- Robert Scoble
the aggregation tools are amazing. the conversations are nice, but the power to create amazing content rooms from all over the web is a highly-underrated part of FF value.
- Morgan
Robert, 10,000x, is that an exact calculation? ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
my awesomeness calculator show higher numbers, can it be wrong!?
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
"...the most important difference I see is the will to share everything they do with their communities. That is already creating many problems of confidentiality but it is more an opportunity than a threat for most companies."
- Ontario Emperor
Sorry, advertising is dead. In the future, people won't accept anything else than their primary information flow from their network. We don't need a "bold on" information flow from advertising.
- Meryn Stol
I disagree, Meryn - certainly my network on average hasn't reached that usefulness. At the moment the social networks don't bring me stuff that I havent heard of, on the product front, except perhaps for gadgets - there is a)too much focus on the "newest" (and rarely much critical follow up when the "honeymoon phase end) b)too much focus on one or two "winners" that are cool. Forums, pro trade publications, search and advertising all are more useful when listing products to assess.
- Iphigenie
But Joelle, advertising doesn't really provide any information helpful in evaluating products. Instead, it only tells you who has enough money to advertise.
- Zach Landes
So even with people who like me have been 'digital' for as long as they have had discretionary spending, advertising has value. But online advertising hasn't yet found its form online, it certainly aint banners or pop over flash. Advertising is "getting information about my product in front of people" and that will never disappear
- Iphigenie
Joelle: you could always follow a blog of an expert on new products, or even whole new product categories. I don't believe all links in a network have to be bidirectional. The main advantage of bi-directionality is that through reciprocal altruism, you can ask for stuff, and people think stuff up for you personally.
- Meryn Stol
Search will certainly be here for a while. :) I absolutely can't live without search.
- Meryn Stol
Yes, of course. I follow blogs, participate in forums and newsgroups (so far still the best place to ask "i need a good ..." or "what do people think of ...", sorry social web!), read professional press - but advertising also has a place in the mix. What a company thinks they want to tell me about their products is also of interest to me. I'm very eclectic when it comes to technologies and products, and have a strong bias towards finding the lesser known companies that do solid stuff. So I want their ads!
- Iphigenie
"What a company thinks they want to tell me about their products is also of interest to me." Follow the CEO's blog. What you say? He doesn't have a blog? ;)
- Meryn Stol
Still, I think defending advertising is kinda cute. :P
- Meryn Stol
Advertising has value, both as information (biased, yes, but isnt all information biased?) but also as a revenue source for many companies. Last year I was involved with some b2b titles. The print titles were all good titles, leaders in their field. We built some good sites around them, adding blogs, guest blogs, videos, building a community with plans to go full social for these different fields. Audience was growing, fast. Then print advertising revenue plunged across these b2b sectors (continued)
- Iphigenie
(cont.) and alas online advertising was still very undeveloped in these sectors. So the magazines were sold, the sites were sold, and the whole community that was burgeoning just won't happen. All this had value, but without advertising revenue it won't happen. And no, people won't pay for website memberships like they pay for magazine subscription, alas. So I guess I defend advertising. Yes, most ads think people are idiots, especially in B2C, and most online ads don't work. But there is value.
- Iphigenie
Joelle: I think if we think hard enough, there's a very powerful synthesis possible. If we suppose that not all companies are only in it for the most profit. In fact we know because lots of companies are mission-driven, at least in part.
- Meryn Stol
Even for a relatively active person like me, my online social network, coupled with my IRL network, does not provide me with all the information I need. And remember that over 150 million Americans, give or take, are not on FriendFeed, or Twitter, or MySpace or Facebook. I know someone who uses a backup solution that is advertised on Rush Limbaugh. Similar situations exist outside of the US. Advertising is not dead.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
The answer differs if one focuses on changes that will happen by 2010 vs. 2060. In 1-2 years not much change. In 50 - lots, you bet.
- Bora Zivkovic
the point being that in all questions about the future one has to be very explicit about the exact time-frame one is thinking about.
- Bora Zivkovic
the small, incremental changes we see today are the basis for our speculations about long-term changes.
- Bora Zivkovic
Bora, excellent point. But even in 2060, businesses will need SOME mechanism to attract customers, and to keep them away from competitors.
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
Yes, and I think the interview is quite good at speculating what will happen. As for his point #4, that is what I am paid to do: search the web for any mentions of my organization and doing what needs to be done - respond directly, alert the marketing so they do it their way, alert the tech team if needed, etc.
- Bora Zivkovic
many argue that the Web will turn competitive language of advertising into a more collaborative language.
- Bora Zivkovic
postlinearity, I do believe that humans are inherently selfish, and therefore do not believe that the level of cooperation seen in the human body can be realized in a society's economy (without the intervention of outside forces).
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
postlinearity, I will grant that there have been small-scale cooperatives, but I know of none that survived in the long term. Perhaps I'm wrong on this...
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
I'm not familiar with the idea that (if I got it right) hyperconnective selfishness leads to effective selflessness. Can you link to something that explains this further?
- Ontario Emperor
from fftogo
postlinearity: You're very well informed. Glad to have you chiming in. :)
- Meryn Stol
Haque is well-informed as well, though sometimes he seems a little too sure of himself I think. But he's surely on the cutting edge.
- Meryn Stol
"Steve Gillmor has been on a campaign to get Feedburner to wake up and make his Feedburner feed more responsive. I support him in this. Now that Feedburner is pwned by Google, there's something kind of sneaky about a big company that prides itself on keeping its servers up and responsive all the time to be asleep on this."
- Dave Winer
from Bookmarklet
I don't know anything else about it, but I've noticed that some feeds use http://www.pheedo.com/, which seems to be a feedburner clone.
- Paul Buchheit
wonder what the latency on pheedo is
- Steve Gillmor
the founder of pheedo just posted a comment with contact info on scripting.com
- Dave Winer
What features/benefits of Feedburner is it that people are trying to replicate/realize here? Analytics? Inserting ads into your feeds? Or is this really about trying to push/pull content out as quickly as possible?
- Ken Sheppardson
realtime rss ping/syncronization of feedburner type service
- Steve Gillmor
Where "feedburner type service" = ad serving/analytics?
- Ken Sheppardson
cant someone ask kevin marks or other folks about this? ill check with my google guy... and report back.
- andrew
I've tried reaching kevin but he's ignoring me
- Steve Gillmor
steve just listened to your year end podcast while freezing my a** off running here in minneapolis - an excellent hour on authority/blogging/microblogging/real time.... thanks again for all the great shows last year - capped by the year end gem. checking with my goog guy now.
- andrew
thanks andrew, tomorrow's NewsGang Live shaping up nicely 1PM Pacific
- Steve Gillmor
As I posted on Dave's blog, Pheedo typically works with large commercial pubs (NYT Times, CNET, PCWorld, etc) but happy to help Steve with your feed updating issue and stats. Contact me at bill AT Pheedo Dot Com.
- Bill Flitter
Bill are you going to offer a competitive service?
- Steve Gillmor
I think the goal is a sustainable real-time content publishing system of some sort. RSS + ping networks don't get the job done currently. It's easy to create a one-off ping/poll system for a small number of sources, with low latency, much more difficult to do so for a large number. There is no system now that I'm aware of that directly addresses this particular issue. SUP and XMPP are interesting, but nor deployed in a full system yet.
- mikepk
mikepk you move from not in google's economic interest to innovators dilemma to not doable technically. Microsoft is licking its chops. google is silent for a reason
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, I think the reason that Google is silent might be more that it's a Sunday after the holidays. I pointed some people at Google to this.
- Matt Cutts
Steve, innovator's dilemma is the only point I made, I never said it wasn't technically doable. :) The ironiy of the innovator's dilemma is that it *is* in Google's long term economic interest. The central argument is that internal pressure keeps a company from exploring disruptive technologies because they must focus on their short term economic interest above their long term.
- mikepk
Also, it's just a "feeling" that I have that google's internal priorities are re-aligning to driving ad-revenue above other pursuits. The pressure on Google is steadily increasing since wall street expects growth. If they miss their growth targets for a quarter it will dramatically increase this pressure. I could be *totally* wrong and only time will tell.
- mikepk
matt cutts thx for some real response. I've always liked Feedburner, but in the age of realtime it's hopelessly bad news for routing info around the viral network. Have someone contact me to chat on NewsGang Live tomorrow 1PM PDT
- Steve Gillmor
Yes, Steve, Pheedo offers a competitive service to Feedburner.
- Bill Flitter
Steve, I'm asking about this but I can't promise I'll be able to get someone for NewsGang tomorrow. But I will bug people to see what's up with the latency; there might be a simple explanation.
- Matt Cutts
tune in in any case Matt via the chatroom. I'll Tweet the address tmrw mrning
- Steve Gillmor
Steve, do you have PingShot turned on? To check, log into FeedBurner, then click on My Feeds in the top left, then click on your most popular feed. Under the "Publicize" tab, do you have the PingShot feature activated? I think turning on pinging might be the issue in some of these cases.
- Matt Cutts
Whether Steve solves his problem or not, I think we need an open source "feed proxy" that could at least give our feeds stats, cache and some kind of throttling.
- Panayotis Vryonis
Matt forwarded to Techcrunch engineering. will find out. thx.
- Steve Gillmor
Matt Cutts: PingShot was turned on late on Jan 1.
- Steve Gillmor
Steve: I've been talking to the FB folks and they're checking into this. They were able to repeat it with TechCrunch IT (not TechCrunch), so they're checking on it. Unfortunately, I'm doing an orientation for a new Google engineer at 1pm, so I won't be able to dial into the chatroom for NewsGang, but people are looking at it on this side.
- Matt Cutts
"It seems like every day there’s at least five new Twitter apps popping up. The news of a shiny new Twitter toy gets dispersed through Twitter streams everywhere, hits critical mass, news dries up a bit, and then, if you’re like me, you forget about it completely."
- Colide81 (James)
@om: well i've probably read at least 20 in the past month... likely over 50 since this summer. if you've seen better, please point them out.
- dave mcclure
Good article, SEC does not have tools to monitor,time for a new version of Quick Books - Securities and Exchange version:)
- MedicalQuack
satyajit das's blog is definitely a bigger mouthful but an excellent read on this subject: http://www.wilmott.com/blogs... - plus he's got a cool name.
- andrew
"Welcome to herdshare.com - we are in the process of creating a site that will enable farmers and their share holders to set-up and manage their herd share agreements and operations. What is a herd share? Consumers pay a farmer a fee for boarding their cow, (or share of a cow), caring for the cow and milking the cow. The cow share owner then obtains (but does not purchase) the milk from his/her own cow."
- Chris Messina
from Mento
Sorry to be girlie but this guy Paddy is pretty hot with his whiteboard and all... Thanks Dave :)
- shay
yet another reason hedge funds are going to hell in a handbasket shay... just too many studly irishmen misleading institutional investors. did i mention my last name is McClure? cough.
- dave mcclure
"Spare Change is simple. Users fund their Spare Change account with their credit card, PayPal, bank acccount or mobile phone - or complete marketing offers and surveys. Users use Spare Change instantly on all of their favorite social network applications."
- Chris Messina
from Mento
CreativeApplications.Net: Blog about creative apps that challenge ways we share and engage with information. Mac/Win/iPhone... - http://www.creativeapplications.net/