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Dave Winer posted a message

“Ever notice how new products almost never make it on TechMeme these days. They don't even appear. This is loop back to why I started blogging. The industry press was ignoring the interesting stuff and only paying attention to what the BigCos were doing. Time for a new route-around coming soon?”

June 27 at 11:24 pm - Link

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FriendFeed, for now, seems to working well as long as you don't only follow the a-list. - Ray Grieselhuber

There is a risk in Friendfeed that you will only ever see the comments of a small subset of the FF population - interspersed with the odd Friend of... who may make it "In" - Rooms has the potential to widen the gene pool but sticking to the friends tab can definitely limit the number of names you will see... - David W

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I don't feel a need to reinvent the web inside of FF. However it is part of what I do, in the same way Twitter is. I like FF better, but only marginally better. It's very far from the ideal. None of these guys have managed to combine all the elements the way plain old HTML does it so well. It's nice in some ways but a big step backward in others. - Dave Winer

oh don't you worry the "BigCos" and slooow media will always end up being displaced; it's a law of nature, soon to be documented and displaced - Billy Shipp via twhirl

Yeah. It's a big old loop we're in. And watch for the moments when new products don't get any air. That means the routearound is just about to begin. - Dave Winer

BTW its weird but Techmeme is down now. What a day! - Dave Winer

reinventing if needed is fine but to get a new look I guess, it's like starting over again a little bit. - Jack

Dave: I disagree to a point. If you look at Techmeme stories from my blog in May and June alone, you can see stories on Loud3r, Feedly, Disqus, Sezwho, FFToGo, and Shyftr, for example. It could be that Techmeme is accurately monitoring the most discussed blogs, and that the vast majority of these blogs are talking less about new products. Link: http://tinyurl.com/4nscbe - Louis Gray

Dave, I don't disagree, but having said that I don't believe its Technemes fault, it is designed to follow the peak noise and ultimately thats around the big players. What we need is a techmeme like service that blocks techcrunch and any mention of a defined list of companies such as google, facebook etc so we can cut through the noise - Duncan Riley via fftogo

Nah, I think the blogosphere and devices like Twitter and FriendFeed show me cool things all the time. When you rely on one aggregator/editor for information... things you are interested in slip through. If you leave it up to crowdsourcing, you see what you want. - Andrew Ruess

Louis -- that's kind of the point -- those products didn't launch well, and with no slight to you -- I haven't heard of them because I depend on TechMeme to tell me what's important in the tech world. TechMeme does what it does well, but it has some real limits and the industry has shaped around those limits, just as the industry shaped around the limits of the press in the pre-Internet era and during the browser and Java wars in the 90s. - Dave Winer

Dave, what are you thinking about? - feedlyqa

I think there needs to be a website where people can list the new products and services, that way its very easy to find out and support new services like SocialBrowse and A.viary that I would have never found if it wasn't for the invites friendfeed channel - Chacha

Feedly, generate a daily RSS feed (archived) of the user's posts. Here's an example. http://twitter.scripting.com/d... - Dave Winer

are you thinking of a parallel twitter system based on RSS and an associated XXXmeme? - feedlyqa

Dave, I guess the answer is on your website http://www.scripting.com/ (note: permalinks on the website seem to be broken). how do you envision people creating http://twitter.scripting.com/d...? SwitchAbit? Friendfeed? (or the point is that you do not care?) - feedlyqa

@Chacha i made a new product/software category @ http://www.socialmedian.com/ try *solacetech* as an invite code and tell me if that's what you had in mind - Anthony Farrior

I would find it interesting to hear less breaking news and new startups. Instead more analytics on the guys that are doing it right. Why are they successful? Nine out of 10 new startups don't seem to be launching something that addresses an actual need, instead they launch a technology. We have enough technology already, so that fails. And providing us with next gen social ad business models ain't going to work either ;-) - Alexander van Elsas

I really liked Fred Wilson's suggestion to make a TechMeme that was for individual bloggers only. No branded blogs like TechCrunch, Engadget, VentureBeat... just Scripting, AVC, Scoble, etc. This would cast a much more individual net, which I think would really increase diversity. PeopleMeme - Jason Calacanis

Jason, a good idea:-) BTW TechMeme could be improved vastly if it could ignore 3 types of post: 1) any posts that say "Breaking News" 2) posts that copy the exact content of another post and add 1-2 lines to them (echo echo) 3) Anything, and I mean anything that discusses the performance of Twitter at this moment. Removing any of those would make TechMeme probably 100% more interesting and diverse already. Is Gabe listening? ;-) - Alexander van Elsas

Alexander, Gabe always listens. He's one of the best I've seen for monitoring his service online. He's out of town until July 8th, so may be checking things less. - Louis Gray

Well they sound like easy fixes, so I hope he has the time to implement them. Come to think of it, it would be great if each of us can have it's own TechMeme algorithm ;-) - Alexander van Elsas

BTW Louis, it seems YOU are always listening too ;-) - Alexander van Elsas

Maybe the route-around is to read Louis Gray. - Jason Kaneshiro

I have been reading TechMeme less and less lately. I guess that means it's about to go mainstream! :-) - Robert Scoble

My route-around is to read Louis Gray. That's for sure. But he'll be slowed down by two new babies. But I have a lot to say on this topic. The thing is that the early adopters are way ahead of most of the world and the rest of the world needs to catch up before we can see a ton of new stuff again that'll be successful. In the area of work, for instance, on the Office 2.0 database there are more than 800 services. How many of them have any of us tried? I bet a VERY SMALL percentage. - Robert Scoble

Can't slow me down. My Thursday/Friday gap was as we were at the hospital, fattening up Sarah, but my bet is that's a blip. Two new services, never blogged about by anyone ever on Techmeme, hit the blog today. :-) - Louis Gray

I have to disagree. Been seeing more new sources as relatively unknown sources appearing on Techmeme all the time (possibly not this past week?) ... but I read Louis ... and sometimes Robert too :) - Charlie Anzman

I hope Sarah gets fat enough to release louis from fear so he can help us again :-) - Francine Hardaway via twhirl

dont forget http://emilychang.com/go/ehub ! all new products there - Marshall Kirkpatrick via fftogo

Yep, I'm listening, and appreciate the ideas. But I'm in disagreement with many people here. I can't give alot of weight to requests for coverage of new products from people who provide coverage of new products (or the products themself). And I can't give undue weight to requests for more personal blogs from personal bloggers. These suggestions are somewhat helpful, but don't speak for the vast majority of Techmeme's readers, who don't use FriendFeed or even leave comments on blogs. So why does Techmeme overlook alot of new products? Maybe there's new product fatigue. Though product launches are accelerating, people are sensing that most don't hold a lot of promise for disruption or significant growth. I'm certainly not the first to observe this. - Gabe Rivera

It would be interesting to see if someone were to calculate a success/fail ratio on these new products AND relate that to the amount of hype created in some breaking news blogs. I could tell you the outcome, no correlation at all. You either execute right or you don't. The power of the "Hype Blog" review isn't sustainable or accessible for users beyond the early adopters. - Alexander van Elsas

maybe it's just me, but i think there's a "fatigue bar" that keeps going up to get people excited about new products. i think it's more interesting to talk more about things that appear to be getting some traction than any smart little thing that releases. traction > launching - Charles Hudson

I get paid to write about start-ups, but usually it's those that raise funding, make a splash or do something new. We can read about big company news almost anywhere. I'm with Charles, though. Not every start-up is worth the virtual ink. How do you strike a balance? That would be up to Gabe's secret sauce. - Dan Kaplan

I like what Charles said. Very often, where there's traction, there's a story. What happened? Why is this catching on? What made the difference? What kind of people are using it? How is it spreading? Etc., etc. - Gabe Rivera

More information = more usability. Hope to see some new developing things on Techmeme soon. - Mark Frost

I agree in part with Gabe, but disagree too. TechMeme attracted me because it was different than what was on Google News. Now it's getting to be big-city news and isn't as interesting as hanging out in FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble

Finding all most new products worth trying via twitter/friendfeed (techmeme new product launches usually = techcrunch = PR relationship with MikeA = not enough reason to give a crap pour moi ) - leigh himel

re: a 'Techmeme' that is 'personal' -- A recent blog post from Nick Bradbury explains how the "popular topics" feature on FeedDemon is sort of like a meme-tracker limited to those blogs to which one subscribes ( http://urlzen.com/6u ). Obviously, this is not a Techmeme replacement, merely an attempt to add another means to view the conversation flow. - Rex Hammock

Gabe, to be clear, I don't think TechMeme should change. I think we need to flow around it though, provide other ways for people to find what's new. We used to have weblogs.com before the blogging world got too big and the spammers discovered it. Digg is even more of a concentrator than TM, so that isn't what I want. Oddly I don't think it's an algorithmic thing. You and I tend to view things diametrically opposite. I think human beings are the answer, you think algorithms. I think we're both right. :-0) - Dave Winer

A very basic work around, filtering some of the noise from Techmeme http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/p... or the RSS direct http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/p... - Duncan Riley

Actually aggregation only makes sense in a peer/social context: what is my social graph talking about? Search will become social - differently from what Mahalo is. #workingonit ;) - oliver gassner

Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter

“FriendFeed conversation about whether or not it's a silo: http://tinyurl.com/3ssqf8”

June 21 at 10:27 am - Link

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I should start another conversaiton here just to prove my point, then digg stumble the original with comments, and then start retweeting - Andy Beard

Silos joined: http://friendfeed.com/e/57de4d... - Robert Scoble

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Try to do THAT on Twitter. And, anyway, Twitter sees far more conversation particulation than you get here on FriendFeed, where interesting conversations join up into clusters. Also, a conversation here lasts hours. Over on Twitter? The half-life of a conversation is only six minutes. Why? Because interesting stuff just gets buried so fast. - Robert Scoble

Not silo in terms of technology, but channel preference and uneven RSS/API usage make it silo in reality. - Brian Carter

yes you can monitor a few threads that way, but the only way I can monitor conversations just about my own posts here on friendfeed is to use search - Andy Beard

As an example I am using advanced search just to pick up comments I might have missed regarding eperks, but it is time consuming http://friendfeed.com/search?q... - Andy Beard

very nice point about the half life of a conversation on twitter. I find that unless I use the GUI (ie use a client like twhirl), the half life is pretty similar - Shivanand Velmurugan

It would be great if an author can group a bunch of twitter messages into 1 conversation ( or everyone starts using friendfeed instead :) ) - Shivanand Velmurugan

Agreeing w/ @andybeard- FF has silos w/in one conversation... at least as big an issue as whether it's a silo amongst SM sites. - Brian Carter

Social Media: David Harry posted a link

What Is Social Media’s Purpose? No U silly SEO, It’s Not About Links

June 20 at 7:42 pm - Link

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Makes sense. - Tad Chef

true!! it's about PEOPLE!! - Dieter Schwarz

Dieter, stop agreeing with me, otherwise you will be labeled a Social Troll and blocked by @Scobleizer LOL - Igor The Troll

damn - that would be the worst thing that could happen to someone in web 2.0! Ok: Nothing that Igor the social troll says is true!! ;) - Dieter Schwarz

Yeah, the more someone tries to debunk me, the more vocal and notable I become! - Igor The Troll

Joseph Ferrara.Sellsius posted a message on Twitter

“@mlbroadcast No. ePerks alleges vlad's post refers to them as the source of the yahoo post. Read complaint on scribd at vald's post.”

June 16 at 5:23 pm - Link

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ePerks Sues Real Estate Blogger, Blogosphere Unites to Destroy the ePerks Brand - Real Estate Agent and Brokerage Blogs

June 21 at 1:02 am - Link

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From the page: "The following is the torrid tale of eParks and how they solicited editorial advertising from real estate bloggers and when they didn't like the result of one blogger's pieces they attacked him personally and are now suing him. It's disgraceful. For those of you not yet in the know, ePerks, a service that allows Realtors to offer incentives back to consumers, has recently taken legal action against a fellow real estate blogger, Vlad Zablotskyy." - rob

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SupportÂ the Vlad Zablotskyy Legal Defense Fund: A real estate weblogger is being throttled by corporate bully ePerks.com. The free speech rights you will be...

June 21 at 9:49 am - Link

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From the page: " Support the Vlad Zablotskyy Legal Defense Fund: A real estate weblogger is being throttled by corporate bully ePerks.com. The free speech rights you will be fighting for are your ownâ¦" ePerks=eJerks - Igor The Troll

Sweet Andy! lol - Igor The Troll

RT Cunningham posted an entry on Untwisted Vortex » The ePerks vs. Vlad Zablotskyy Fiasco

The ePerks vs. Vlad Zablotskyy Fiasco

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RT Cunningham posted a message on Twitter

“New on UV: The ePerks vs. Vlad Zablotskyy Fiasco: I told myself I wouldn't get involv.. http://twurl.nl/8nsll7”

June 21 at 10:55 am - Link

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SupportÂ the Vlad Zablotskyy Legal Defense Fund: A real estate weblogger is being throttled by corporate bully ePerks.com. The free speech rights you will be...

June 21 at 11:17 am - Link

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I'm tempted, I won't do it of course, to assist in a Google bomb. I won't resort to those tactics but I wouldn't put it past ePerks. Scum. - RT Cunningham

Louis Gray posted a message on Twitter

“New Blog Post: The Gray Family Doubles Overnight. Welcome Matthew and Sarah! http://tinyurl.com/4uewvt”

June 21 at 11:28 am - Link

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Photos? :-) - Robert Scoble

Congrats! - Laura

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congratulations! - Eugene Huo

Congratulations, and welcome to Matthew and Sarah! - Xavier Bartholome

Heartiest Congratulations! - Parth Awasthi

Congratulations! - Yolanda

Con'grat and weclome to Matthew and Sarah . - Peter Dawson

CONGRATS! You think you're whipped now - just wait for the first smile! - Marco

Congrats! Boy, are you going to be a tired, busy, but happy dad - Tris Hussey via twhirl

Enjoy the fatherhood thingie-you get your whole life to perfect it. Congrats to you and your Misses. - Mark Forman

congrats - Patphelan

Congratulations. - Alex Williams

Congratulationis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy for you and family - Alex Hammer

http://friendfeed.com/rooms/wa... - you should have been in the waiting room - man, the tension :) only a few were allowed in the delivery room! - Tim Hoeck

Robert Scoble posted a message on Twitter

“@jimlunsford FriendFeed is noisy, but way more organized than Twitter. It's a silo, yes. But one with RSS feeds out. Is it a silo at all?”

June 21 at 9:39 am - Link

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it's not a silo, it's an aggregator - Max Niederhofer

I'm just playing with it now but it looks like its a good aggregation hub for "updates" on your blogs and what you are doing and thinking. It has promise. - Chris Herbert

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Actually I use friendfeed and twitter for discussion based on who I'm talking with. If I know their stream is noisy (like Robert's) than FriendFeed leaves the comment out longer so he can see it. Twitter is better for following large groups and a back channel for a smaller subset. Friendfeed is far more open-ended. - Andrew Feinberg

Anything with a well implemented public API isn't really a silo IMO. - J. Phil

It's not a silo. Anyone can pull (just about all, from what I've seen) the data out via the API. It just needs more apps built on the API. - J. McConnell

It is both an aggregator and a silo which encourages scattered conversations - I am unlikely to never come back to this conversation after I leave the comment, the RSS feed doesn't even seem to work http://friendfeed.com/e/57de4d... - Andy Beard

The "like" feature allows me to track a conversation if I'm interested in following it. - Chris Herbert

This problem isn't an inherent one. FriendFeed could fix this relatively easily by allowing the starter of the conversation to link to another FF post. E.g. Robert, since he started both this and the other conversation you commented on, could "link" the two together and then FF could intelligently splice the two conversations together. - J. McConnell

A third party could provide similar behavior via the API by noticing, e.g., that Robert posted a link to this conversation in the middle of another, or by following some other convention. However, it would be nice for FF to provide something like this so all users and API clients could benefit from the spliced coversation. - J. McConnell

I think FriendFeed is not intended to be used as a silo. As mentioned before by previous commenters, it's an agregator with a feel of a discussion forum/mailing list with "karma point"-like feature. - imabonehead

J. McConnell certainly it is possible, there has been talk of clustering before, but it would need to cluster all the stumbles, Diggs, shares etc - it would be great to stumble something, and then discover a whole linked conversation from many sources - Andy Beard

Andy Beard, good to hear that it has been discussed. This reminds me that I did hear mention of it when the FF founders were on the Gillmor Gang. Their argument for not having it yet, I believe, was that the separate conversations are a feature in that they allow separate social groups to interact more naturally, openly, without feeling that their comments are completely public. - J. McConnell

However, it seems that there is support for that kind of private interaction already with rooms. As long as room conversations about a URL aren't clustered with other conversations about a URL, I would think everyone would be happy. Either way, allowing a poster, like Robert in this case, to explicitly link two entries seems to be different and much more conservative than algorithmic clustering. - J. McConnell

It's funny that at a cocktail party there's tons of conversations that happen between small groups in a semi-public manner, but that we don't want to allow that to happen here. - Robert Scoble

FF = aggregator. I find FF far more useful than Twitter. - Bill Sodeman via fftogo

Don't think it is a Silo. But eventually Its all about the intent and the usage. - Parth Awasthi

A silo is something that allows things in but not out, so technically FF is mostly a silo right now. I prefer to think of it as an aggregator. - Sally Church

Sally: if this is a silo how can Google get into it and index it? Also, how can you pull these conversations into RSS? Hmmm. - Robert Scoble

Robert, cocktail party conversations are (typically) not recorded, archived, searchable, etc. Also, the number of people that can overhear them are usually limited to the 5 or so people in the immediate vicinity. On FF, the number of people that can "overhear" is essentially limitless. Don't get me wrong. I'm all for heavy, intelligent clustering on FF and much open discourse. I had to point out the difference here, though. I can understand and respect some people's desire for more privacy. - J. McConnell

J.: you gotta come to the cocktail parties I go to. Almost everything is recorded. :-) - Robert Scoble

Robert and J. McConnell, you can delete your comment if you want. Hey, cocktail party...who's mixing drinks?! - Chris Herbert

Robert: Google can index it because it's essentially an open, not closed silo. I was thinking more of the commenting on items coming in - they don't always go back to the source, so if you're not on FF you could miss a whole load of discussions on your original post/item. For me, it's semantics - I like both Twitter and FF for different reasons. - Sally Church

Robert, I'd love to go to some of the cocktail parties you go to :) I did have you, specifically, in mind when I threw in the "typically". I knew you'd say that, haha! - J. McConnell via fftogo

Chris Herbert, a) not from Google's cache, b) the privacy-sensitive people I have in mind don't want to delete their comments, they just want to limit the scope of their comments. And to be clear, these are hypothetical people I'm talking about, so maybe the argument isn't worth making. - J. McConnell via fftogo

just check this http://quotably.com/scobleizer and compare the conversation and the amount of tweets vs. ff. i cant see a significant one, if any. - kosmar

What some people call noise, others call content. I know lots and lots of folks who consider all the A-list tech blog stuff "noise" and wonder where the "real" content is on the web as a whole. Perspective is crucial. - Soulhuntre

Robert the FF guys (Paul I think it was) also brought out a similar arguement about watching a film with friends and then discussing it after - that conversation is somewhere linked to his blog post - Andy Beard

But then I have seen threads of 15+ comments on someone's stumble of one of my posts, and no comments on the original post. Robert "liked" one of my ePerks articles, but that was in the social media room posted by Igor - Andy Beard

I have contemplated using a FF widget or Wordpress Plugin on my blog to display FF conversations, but those will only pick up a fraction of the conversation around an article. It might be better to create a custom search feed for each article - Andy Beard

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I'm wondering if others have this problem. Do your loved ones consider your online activities "work"? Do they think you're "playing on the computer"? If so, how...

June 20 at 9:38 am - Link

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I do both while on computer. Mostly work. But when i take a break, i check out FF, Twitter, gReader, etc. The *techies* in my family know I am working, but the non-techies think I am playing... sorta funny! Non-techies automatically think my browser = play, but in actually, I have 90% of my work in my browser! - Susan Beebe

I don't think my loved ones understand what "online" even means. - Kevin D. White

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I think people have a harder time grasping the fact that one can actually work at home, on the Internet. Many people in my life still haven't gotten this through their head ;) - Glen Stansberry via twhirl

Glen: I am at home getting more work done here than at the office - Susan Beebe

My wife understands, but none of the rest of my family would - they probably don't have highspeed internet.. - Tony via Alert Thingy

Most of my friends and family get it, but there is a significant percentage of them who think "working in technology" means "Mark can fix my computer." - Mark Trapp

@Mark I get that from my family all the time and I HATE it. It's a Catch-22. If I refuse they think I'm being stuck up or unfriendly. Then I help and the next time something goes wrong it must have been my fault. My father is the worst. I have to fix everything because I must have broken it in the first place. Never mind that I've lived 500+ miles away for almost 20 years. - Kevin D. White

My family members know I work on my computer, as I work at home. like Susan, I play with FF, Twitter, Greader or my blog whenever i want a break. - Jansen Lu

Haha, Kevin: you might want to try telling them you only work with Macs. For me, and for a long time, that was like saying to people "No habla Englais!" and they'd leave you alone. But in the past couple of years, more and more people are getting Macs, so it's starting to lose its effectiveness. - Mark Trapp

@Mark We're in the same boat. - Kevin D. White

My loved one does until each time a check rolls in. Then I'm good for a couple of days :) Only 27 years ?! - Charlie Anzman

@Charlie Anzman u r a freelancer, like me, as well? - Jansen Lu

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June 14 at 5:10 pm - Link

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Im Mad As Hell-You Will Be Too When You Read About Vlad Zablotskyy and ePerks

June 15 at 7:39 am - Link

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mike simonsen posted a message on Twitter

“just caught up on the eperks-sues-a-blogger mess. Donated to Vlad's legal defense fund http://tinyurl.com/3rteml”

June 15 at 10:17 pm - Link

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Blogging and Freedom of Speech

June 16 at 12:54 pm - Link

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Post about ePerks suing a blogger because they didn't like his opinion about their real estate lead site. - C Richey

Dennis Blackmore posted an entry on Chesapeake and Hampton Roads Homes for Sale

Why Real Estate Agents Are Bailing Out of EPERKS

June 17 at 6:07 pm - Link

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michael arrington posted a message on Twitter

“The A.P. Has Violated My Copyright, And I Demand Justice http://tinyurl.com/4xverx”

June 19 at 2:53 pm - Link

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brilliant - MG Siegler

Get 'em Mike! - Mark Forman

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Shoot for 23 words since you've got a contraction in there that's really two words. - AJ Kohn

Omigosh this is so awesome. Go Mike go! - Don MacAskill

Ah but don't you now owe them $17.50 -12.50 =$5.00 because you quoted the article that has your quote? - Brian Sullivan

hahahahahhahahhahaha - Jason Calacanis

Thank you - Pat Hawks

@Brian - but if they'll quote his quote re. their quote .. ahm.. any accountant around? :) - Naor

I just got out of back to back issue resolution / meetings. I will read this and get back to you. This issue is quite intriguing to me. - Mathew A. Koeneker

This could be fun to watch. - Louis Gray

hahaha. this is great! - marcel weiss

OK. Just read your piece (only 2 interuptions). Are you serious or joking? Technically you would have an arguable case. You would spend more money proving your point than I think it would be worth but that is your call. - Mathew A. Koeneker

go get-em Mike. I think that it's about time that the governments of the world threw out those laws and redefined them to make some sense in the modern world. The world's changed 3/4 times over in the last 10 years and we still hold on to laws from 1960 :) - Shivanand Velmurugan via twhirl

Shivanand-spot on. Internet an excellent disruptive force to archaic laws and the privileged that use them to protect their interests unfairly. - Mark Forman

Hell yeah! Go get 'em Mike! - Brian Bufalo

I'm all for copyright laws. And, as a musician, I abide by them religiously. But there is such a thing as fair use. If the AP fights those who use their material under fair use rules, then I'm glad Michael is giving them a taste of their own medicine. - Gregory Pittman via twhirl

I'm happy to let you fight this fight for all of us :) - TJ Trapp

nothing like beating someone at their own game - BCK via twhirl

More power to you! Old media just doesn't know what to do with new media... - Kenneth LeFebvre

Mark Laymon posted an entry on Collective Thoughts

5 Most Addictive Social Media Sites

June 17 at 10:05 am - Link

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5 Most Addictive Social Media Sites

June 17 at 10:18 am - Link

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Missing Friendfeed. Lame. - Mark Trapp

She must really like skittles - Jason Kintzler

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Nice list, yet I don't consider digg to be even slightly addictive. - Czar D.J. Peterman

Oh I know plenty of Digg-a-holics - fortunately I haven't caught that affliction yet - David Harry

People are bound to agree and disagree with a couple of my choices on here. If you aren't immersed in one of these sites, it might seem hard to imagine them being addictive. But give them some time, and you'll start to appreciate the nuances that make them so enjoyable to their users. - Brian Wallace

We've had some nice comments from folks on Twitter like, "addicted to http://www.flickchart.com/ so satisfying and simple...hallmarks of a great site/tool/experience" - http://twitter.com/mvermut/sta... - Hopefully we'll gain some new addicts with our next invite rollouts. :) - Flickchart

What no FriendFeed? EPIC FAIL! seriously duh! - Susan Beebe

Susan, agreed - Shey

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I am certainly worried about this, along with other legal problems, especially for European bloggers who might need to worry about data protection, si3429, the new changes to the consumer protection act that affect word of mouth marketing and advertising etc - then there are the legal problems Vlad currently faces in the US http://www.rsspieces.com/eperk... - Andy Beard

OMG Andy that is insane! Painting someone as being a child molester because he said something bad online about a company? He has grounds for a lawsuit, not them! It just goes to show that the internet is still considered a lawless wild west frontier where anything goes by some people. - Nancy Nally

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