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Visual evidence that you live in a bubble.
Darth Farhad Sama, Kol Tregaskes, Jimminy and 43 other people liked this
From 4 minutes ago. :)
- Louis Gray
HAHAHA!
- Sheryl
I thought for SURE I was the first to notice... :)
- Seth Gray
lol
- Admiral Anika
I seriously hope this guy was being sarcastic...
- Joshua Schnell
He just doesn't live in _the_ bubble.
- Micah Wittman
<twitter>Facepalm</twitter> Wonders why people think the universe revolves around Twitter. Anyone would think the world had suddenly stopped spinning. FF has kept me amused and informed to a degree that I was only peripherally aware that the whale had failed again - Steve
- CdL Creative
what else is news?
- Houseofmax
This is crap. I demand a full 15 minutes of fame.
- Carter Shanklin
15 whole minutes! It's been 2 hours already. :)
- Louis Gray
awesome. little known fact. i can't believe i'm the first person to notice the sun comes up each day. never seen anyone talk about that, either
- dannysullivan
I twittered my rat's ass over 2.5 hours ago! Didn't anyone get it?
- ‘-.-’ Tutivillus Grift
Bwahahahaaa - real time web strips you of any real meaningful chance to sound like an authority
- Martha
from BuddyFeed
Bonus Points for the subject of the post joining FF just to have his say. Gotta love it.
- Kamilah Gill
I'm sure that is not only visual, but could also be read in Braille. More bonus points.
- Red Label
"Liked" for Carter's comment and what Kamilah said.
- Micah Wittman
Has Twitter gone down, or is everybody just getting on with their work?
Andy C and Chris Rivait liked this
It seems to be up on the web, and the API seems OK, but I cant's see anybody posting in the last 40 mins...either in Tweetdeck or on the web interface.
- Chris Nixon
I haven't seen any updates but everything seems to be working
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IT'S THE TWITOCALYPSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Chris Nixon
Worse, It's a global conspiracy - identi.ca is also suffering problems. Plurk is still functioning normally according to reports from both of their active users.
- Andy C
I think it's gone haywire. No updates showing for me either. But nothing from Twitter help about it....glad it isn't just me though.
- Karen Kay
Plurk. LOL.
- Chris Nixon
Maybe it's just us left?
- Chris Nixon
Plurk always reminded me of 'Plonk' which is the main reason I couldn't bring myself to sign up.
- Andy C
glad I'm not the only one panicking
- Phill Price
Twitter Is Frozen in Time - http://mashable.com/2009...
Adam Martin, Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕, 3Cinteractive, L.L.C. and 4 other people liked this
Well I know new development hasn't been a rapid as some would like but that's a little harsh.
- Andy C
Time spent downloading a page (in milliseconds) dropped considerably after switching my blog to Tornado from webapp/Django
Sandeep Kalidindi, ffcode, Internet Strategist and 32 other people liked this
If you ever decide to post that code anywhere, I'd really like to see it. How different is Tornado from Django, anyway?
- Keith Bourgoin
I'm not done yet but: http://github.com/bgolub...
- Benjamin Golub
They are pretty different. One similar area are templates. Tornado templates look a lot like Django templates but they let you run arbitrary Python inside of the template. I love being able to do simple things like list comprehensions inside of templates.
- Benjamin Golub
What are you measuring this with?
- Bill
Ben: Thanks!! I didn't know that was there.
- Bill
yes, thanks Ben for posting the source to both blog implementations, I'm considering using tornado instead of webapp for my next app engine project, and having both to compare is quite nice
- Karl Rosaen
Are you planning on doing the same for rssmeme?
- Mick
Mick: no, would take too long, my blog was only a couple hundred lines of code
- Benjamin Golub
Does tornado have to use nginx or are you using this with apache?
- Hari
This is running on App Engine using Tornado's WSGI support (http://www.tornadoweb.org/documen...). Tornado does not have to use nginx. You do not have to put anything in front of Tornado if you don't want to. Read more at http://www.tornadoweb.org/documen... and http://www.tornadoweb.org/documen...
- Benjamin Golub
Thanks for sharing, this is awesome!
- Hameedullah Khan
I can't find a way to see this graph/data in Google Webmasters Tool, can you help me to point to this?
- Jeremy
Click on Diagnostics and then Crawl stats
- Benjamin Golub
Ok thank you, I am not able to see this as my site is not at a root level.
- Jeremy
Watching die-hard FriendFeed users complain that Google Wave isn't intuitive, is too noisy, and doesn't solve a problem sorta cracks me up.
rowlikeagirl, Daniel Rowley, Kol Tregaskes and 5 other people liked this
My question is... where are these pockets of negativity? I believe the article I did was an overview which accurately praised what they had done well and suggested what it was/was not. Others were more aggressive, yet my post got lumped in. I believe I have been equally analytic for FriendFeed, highlighting the weak and strong.
- Louis Gray
FriendFeed solved a problem for me in 1) Enabling a place to aggregate my activity from around the Web and 2) Enabling me to follow other people's activity in one place. No other site does it better, period.
- Louis Gray
The other spectacular function of FriendFeed is it is a searchable archive. I can find Tweets, for example I Tweeted early last year. Nowhere else can I find them!
- Tom Raftery
I wasn't thinking of you, Louis. In fact I wasn't thinking of anyone specific*. It's more just this vague sense I get that seems to come partly from folks just not getting what they expected, whatever that might be. [*Ok... I was thinking of Scoble a little. ;-) ]
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken... I feel it's a mixture of not knowing what Google Wave fundamentally is and the baggage of other application or services... I seriously listened to someone compare Wave to Outlook...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Plus Louis' post was te best I've read today (and I read a lot)
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
So, what is it and why do I need it?
- Cristo
Cristo - http://friendfeed.com/kshep...
- Ken Sheppardson
Mind you I have no idea what I'm talking about.... I haven't left the beach yet :(
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Thanks Johnny. I knew I wasn't going to win on speed, so I made up for it in verbosity. ;)
- Louis Gray
from iPhone
Facebook allows you to gossip with your friends when you're in high school and college, or reconnect with them if you're out of school. Twitter allows you to broadcast your thoughts whether or not anyone wants to hear them, from wherever you happen to be, and it allows you to search for things that are happening right now. What does Wave allow you to do?
- Cristo
lol @ Sanat
- Silver Hage
Maybe Robert Scoble was a bit harsh in his critism that it was too noisy.. got that idea but I could be wrong..
- Jaap Willem
You've got to use Wave for what it was meant for: collaboration. If you don't have a project, or folks interested in something specific, you'll end up with a lot of noise and virtually no signal.
- tagami
Well, I'm not particularly excited about it, so it will probably do really well. ;)
- Cristo
I think they went the wrong way with Wave, in developing an interface at all and/or in making it public. They should have stuck to pure protocol development. Make that rock solid, make a working server, get federation going properly... then let other people build apps using it. Because I can see the backend idea being useful in a lot of ways, but everybody is going to judge it based...
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- Otto
I've Converted to Habari - http://www.jemjabella.co.uk/blog...
Michael C. Harris and Andy C liked this
Three Top Ways to Damage Your Brand With Social Media - http://www.whatsnextblog.com/archive...
Andy C liked this
Marvellous article. Companies both big and small could do well to read this.,
- Andy C
Spotify excitement wearing off http://nicksnotes.me/spotify...
Andy C liked this
Personally speaking I do like Spotify for browsing and listening to music and I think it's a great service. However, deep inside me, I like to 'own' the music. I'm not even happy buying and downloading MP3's. I like to 'own' the music. I like to have the CD in my hands. I like the freedom to rip the music into 8 different formats. Until I 'own' the music, I don't truly feel comfortable listening to it and although it sounds odd, I don't truly feel I can fully enjoy it. Or maybe I'm just weird.
- Andy C
I know exactly what you mean. Makes perfect sense. If I could be bothered I'd do the same thing. Own the CD and take it from there. It's as if Spotify and/or Last.fm has replaced radio as way of alerting you to music which one then goes and gets.
- Nick Reynolds
Re-reading the OFA Standard: Oracle for Open Systems by @cary_millsap http://www.hotsos.com/e-libra.... Originally written in 1995...
Andy C liked this
How to Use Tumblr, Posterous & Other Light Blogging Services - http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
Roberto Bonini and Andy C liked this
And there was me thinking - just send an email to posterous.com. God - how could I have been so naive ?
- Andy C
Migrating From Wordpress to Habari - http://www.lildude.co.uk/migrati...
Michael C. Harris, Ed F and Andy C liked this
Question: why does Facebook have 300 million users and is never down but Twitter has 45 million and is down many times a day? People at #TC50 are noticing this too. Will Facebook use this to get into the "real time public" game?
Johan Bakken, Amarnath Prabhakar, earl wallace and 41 other people liked this
I don't think it the number of people, I think is the number of hits/per time. Then again, it might be the IT people. Unless you are hitting Facebook every minute, you may not notice any downtime.
- W. Kirk Crawford
Something is wrong with Twitter's structure. They need better engineers!
- Eugene Teng
Kirk: I totally disagree. Twitter has always been going down, even in the good old days when no one used it.
- Robert Scoble
also, how many apps/web services are connecting to and slurping data from twitter compared to facebook?
- alphaxion
Facebook may never be "down" per se but it is *frequently* completely unusable. I don't think anyone should be looking to FB as the paragon of reliability.
- Kevin Pedraja
alphaxion: that is a big deal, yes, but I can tell you the usage on Facebook is many times higher than for Twitter. Length on site numbers are higher too. Most Twitter users don't even use Twitter and that's provable.
- Robert Scoble
Kevin: I'm using both a LOT and I can tell you that it's a rare day I can't get to Facebook but that happens almost every day on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I have seen facebook down. Not near as much as Twitter.
- Dan Krivolavek
I suspect a lot of it has to do with back end architecture.
- Eoghann Irving
which means they might not have invested as much into the standard web interface servers. How often does access between the off site services and twitter go down?
- alphaxion
I think Facebook was smart and managed it's growth. They're architecture was able to adapt as they grew. I think Twitter would be smart to stop trying to patch the system and build a whole new Twitter 2.0.
- ChiliMac
When Facebook was young and only open to college students, it definitely went down. It's just that no one but college students (who didn't care) noticed. Twitter doesn't have that going for it.
- Jordan Hofker
money
- Richard Hill
Twitter is broken. If they don't build a 2.0 version, sooner or later something better will replace them.
- Eugene Teng
Twitter is dead to me.
- Dan Krivolavek
Jordan, Twitter is not "young" anymore. That excuse flew the coop a while ago. Their infrastructure is broken, plain and simple.
- Chieze Okoye
Richard has a big part of it. Facebook has bought an amazing amount of hardware resources. But they've also hired a lot of quality people and done a lot of quality work to make use of those resources. It all works together.
- Todd Hoff
FB may not be 'down' much, but it's been moving like molasses for the last year for me, lite isn't much better. I don't know much about the api traffic for either, but I'd bet twitter has more from that side, just a guess though.
- John
I do not know about you Robert, but sometimes Facebook is being a 'biotch' to me and times out at various times of day and nite. Twitter, I believe is going through some huge growing pains. I hope they get bigger pants soon.
- Nile Flores
Robert, maybe you get access to the VIP Facebook, but I find that several times a month it will do things like log me out every 2 minutes, won't let me access apps, etc. Sure you can log in and maybe see your feed, but that's about it.
- Kevin Pedraja
actually, oddly enough, my GF's profile on facebook is currently telling everyone "sorry this profile is unavailable right now". Looks like they still have issues ;)
- alphaxion
I am curious what Twitter does with their time and money.
- Kreg Steppe
This might be the result of the launching of the site time... Facebook earlier than Twitter!!
- Arijit Das
'cause Twitter only picked up engineers that knew how to write scalable applications with their Summize acquisition - and they've been playing catch-up ever since.
- Mike Koss
...because only a tiny fraction of FB's "users" actually use it frequently enough to crash it? just a guess...
- .LAG liked that
People have already settled for Facebook's near real-time activity stream. Twitter will always have a place as a comm channel but the majority of those 300 million FB users are fine with checking in once or twice a day to see what their friends are up to. I would like to see stats on how many stale Twitter accounts there are vs. Facebook.
- Dave Evans
It got to do with the frequency of access. People who tweet and are active in tweeting do it all the time. It is not the same with Facebook.
- Gokul
Are those respective numbers for 'active within last 30 days'. Registrations are meaningless. That's why LinkedIn is always up. Everyone has an account but no-one actually uses it.
- Andy C
how many of these 300 million are actually active ?
- Peter Dawson
Don't know about FB but 6 million folk are active daily on Twitter. Source: http://www.mediadeluge.com/post...
- Andy C
Facebook is often unusable at certain times of the day. Typically just after everyone gets into the office. It is certainly not a paragon of reliability from the users perspective. And 300 million people don't all access it at once. If they did............no carrier
- Gilbert Harding
twitter search has value. fb search? NONE.
- Phil Calvin
Good point Phil.
- Gilbert Harding
Maybe that IS why facebook should keep out of realtime stuff. It is less hassle to their systems. But I find facebook chat slow and unresponsive :) Neither is perfect... that is good. It means there is much more work to do :)
- DC Crowley
I have also found that the real time chat on Facebook is slow. I think they would have similar problems if there were as many developers creating ways to update on facebook. Cluster f#(K -cs ostini
- Christopher Scott Ostini
Peter: Facebook says that the 300 million number are people who've logged in over the past month. Most of whom are also active daily. I live with a Facebook addict. She's on it multiple times a day and so are all of her friends.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook has smarter engineers at the top that listen to the even smarter engineers at the bottom.
- Jesse Stay
.LAG, your reason doesn't fly - over half of those 300 million users log in at least once a day, and that doesn't even include the near 1 million apps that are also hitting Facebook on a regular basis.
- Jesse Stay
BTW, I don't see Twitter openly sharing that type of traffic information - kinda makes me wonder about Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
And Phil, have you tried Facebook search recently? It is becoming more and more valuable every day.
- Jesse Stay
*never* down? http://friendfeed.com/jeffdou...
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
It may also be a matter of function with scale. Facebook has many functions all of which are more than likely different scalable solutions: photo sharing, chat, etc. Twitter has a much smaller set. When taking 300M users in FB how does that break down to function vs. Twitter. It may be that the concentration around function is higher in Twitter's case than FaceBook. So if FB has say 40...
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- Altan Khendup
Robert, I understand the 'addict' state :)- while on the topic, I thought, I'll share this link to the community http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archive...
- Peter Dawson
After this discussion, I have noticed some issues with Facebook. Slow updates. Uploading hiccups. General functionality breaks at times. Of course, I still have access to it.
- Paul Puri
I think that's the biggest difference. It's rare for Facebook to be "down". Individual components yes, but not the entire site. With Twitter it tends to be all or nothing.
- Eoghann Irving
Yeah, Facebook's architecture is much more modularized. If one thing goes down it doesn't take down everything else. They also have many, many more servers managing it all and a much more mature Memcached backend. That, and they have a much smarter engineering staff managing it all. There are definitely slow spots, but they always correct after a short time, and you never see the entire site down. It's probably the reason Facebook is now profitable and Twitter isn't.
- Jesse Stay
I'm also willing to bet Facebook is doing Unit Testing on their launches, where I'm pretty sure Twitter isn't (based on the things that break after launches)
- Jesse Stay
Tip for East Coasters: When you schedule a 6:30AM conference call with four people on the west coast because you can't do it later, you better darn well call in on time.
Kol Tregaskes, Jessie, tinypants - Hagitha of FF and 7 other people liked this
OH SNAP
- Chris Heath
6:30a is an inhuman time for a conference call... I used to have them once a month and they suck for everyone.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
6:30am? Oh hecks nah. Then you late?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Oh man, I feel for you. I've had that happen too many times. I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that mess any more. It's like they don't care about the time difference
- Admiral Anika
was it 6:30 your time? or east coast time?
- Chris Heath
6:30 my time. This isn't a regular thing. It was set up specifically to accomodate the east coaster's schedule. I'd completely forgotten how long it takes me to go from alarm to conference call, let alone coherence.
- Ken Sheppardson
Goodbye Wordpress, Hello Habari and the New ColinSeymour.co.uk - http://colinseymour.co.uk/goodbye...
Andy C liked this
Great setup you have going on http://live.areyoupayingattention.com/ @ChrisSaad Does P2 support longer posts and media embed - vids, photos etc?
Andy C and Mark Krynsky liked this
A side note Mark, I really enjoy your lifestream blog
- Benjamin Taylor
P2 looks great. Particularly with one line micro blogs.
- Andy C
Yes I just tested it out; I agree
- Benjamin Taylor
How To Not Get Your Blog Hacked - http://idlewords.com/2009...
Isaac Hepworth, Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah and Andy C liked this
"If you listen to me, the answer is much simpler. Do not run this kind of software on a public server. Either host your blog with a competent centralized site (like LiveJournal or Blogger) that takes the burden of upgrading, backing up and patching off your hands, or use whatever personal publishing software you like (WordPress, Movable Type, and so on), but keep it on a local machine." "If you want comments or other fanciness (why??), you might need a little more complicated setup than this. But the basic idea of keeping your administrative interface off the internet will save you endless angst as these exploits keep coming. WordPress has an especially terrible track record with security, but all these programs are just accidents waiting to happen."
- Adewale Oshineye
@dsilverman the shoemaker's kids never have new shoes. Won't make that mistake again.
Alex Kapranoff, Andy C, Sunny (The Geek Lord) and ashish liked this
I used to read @dsilverman's articles in the Houston Chronicle when I was a kid - so good seeing him on Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
Andy- excellent point. Forgot all about that.... I agree. It's quite strange.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Blogging Strategy to Reach 10000 Subscribers in 117 days - http://www.stevenaitchison.co.uk
Andy C liked this
lol - don't read too hard
- BYU Cougar Sports
lol - forgot to log out of that account
- Jesse Stay
To quit twitter: a) log in to !T-word b) click Settings c) click 'delete my account' at the bottom, d) Verify e) join !twitterfree here
Andy C liked this
I think I am gonna have to unsub from alot on here, redo them again...no point being subbed to people who ignore you is there?... twitter IS more responsive than this place.. looking at my stats, it ALWAYS was... I seem to have pissed off people on here, and there is bugger all I can do to change it...
chaz2b, Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah, Anne Bouey and 6 other people liked this
Of course there is. Just because the people you're subscribe to don't sub back, doesn't make anything they have to say any less valuable. Stephen King has never once commented on one of my blog posts or hit me up on Twitter, but I still enjoy his work. Same goes for any average person you find interesting on the interwebs.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Not bothered is they subbed back coach ( ;o) ) ... just I seem to have already ruined the way people see me in this place, it seems to be too late to change that... why bother trying?
- Rob Sellen :o)
I understand that frustration. That's what happens in the real-time world. If you don't have the right power users hitting like on your posts, it will get ignored. Happens to me a lot and I've been trying to figure out why.
- Ben Hanten
That's the thing... people trump about "real time" well there aint NO real time response to what I post... I said hello yesterday... and three hours later someone responds.... wtf is real time about that?? you hit the nail on the head Ben.. a "power user" needs to like it or something... so there IS that "old boys clique" here... FACT.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Only ever get a response when I complain... defeats the whole fucking point of it.... not the first time I said this shit.. NOTHING has changed...
- Rob Sellen :o)
It is what it is. I have 600 subscribers, but my content only gets noticed if I get a like from Derrick, CW, Lindsey, Pea, either Scoble, or Steven Perez. That said, I still love the technology and I get a lot out of it by participating in other people's stuff.
- Ben Hanten
I did at the start.. then had a few off days..(even apologised about it, more than can be said for the asshole bullies) and it's never been the same since... nothing I can do will change it..
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rah... you think S King would have still written books had no-one read them?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Rahsheen is right. Life is easier if you let go of things you can't control (like having people read your stuff). Just enjoy whatever value you get from FF. And yes, Stephen King would still write even if nobody reads his stuff. He's a true artist and true artists don't work for money.
- Andre P. Siregar
That being said, the FF bubble-up model has its weaknesses. In FF, you end seeing the same thing over and over again (unless you hide them) because once the popular people like/comment them, they get exposed to more people. The popular posts get more popular. In Twitter, the tweets always roll by, so you always get 'fresh' information. It's more democratic in Twitter, in a sense
- Andre P. Siregar
Yes. SK would definitely keep writing if nobody was reading. It's who he is. Sure, he probably would have had to hold down a day job and he probably wouldn't have the extensive catalog he has now, but he would write. I make music that nobody listens to. Does that make me stop doing it? Hell no. It's what I love to do.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
If you don't get any activity on something you post, you may have to face the fact that it didn't catch anyone's eye and/or it wasn't interesting enough for them to interact with it. Of course you posts that received Likes from users with large followings got attention. It's like bouncing the beachball around at a concert. Nobody likes/comments your post? The ball hits the floor. Nobody else notices it. If you get some kind of interaction, you increase your chances for more interaction.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Of course, it's not always that you haven't written something interesting enough. Once again, someone with the clout can post "asdfjkl;" and get 20 likes, while someone else could post about the meaning of life and not get a second glance. Someone can post a YouTube vid and not be noticed, and then someone else can come along and post the exact same vid and create a Best of Day. I guess it's just the fun of dealing with humans.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Well, all I can say to that is, it sucks... why bother if it's only the "in crowd" who get results? The fact I can make a complaint like this and its's getting a response says it all... when everything else gets ignored... again, why bother? This is not the first time it's happened!
- Rob Sellen :o)
"This is not the first time it's happened!" <-- Exactly. You have posted about this multiple times before. Did you expect a different answer today?
- Rochelle
no.. I expected it to have changed.... but alas, nothing has, you all say the same answers too... .... sadly... glad I didn't get my real friends onto this place to be honest...
- Rob Sellen :o)
While I sometimes share your frustration, your way of approaching the topic is very confrontational. The people you are mad at are people who may be lucky, may know the right people, but ultimately are just trying to have a good time on here, too. Why blame them? You can't beg for recognition.
- Ben Hanten
I understand your point there Ben... but seen this shit a few times.... it is LAME that like someone said.. a name here can post jsagfvh and get tons of likes?? wtf is that about? WHY does that happen, cos of who posted it? that's just sad... isn't it? Or is that just me?
- Rob Sellen :o)
Dunno what provoked the mini-rant. Probably me as I have lapsed on FriendFeed but if it's any consolation, I am following you on Google Reader.
- Andy C
So I have to change who I am??? wtf? No thanks... I am not seen the way people on here see me anywhere else...
- Rob Sellen :o)
It's how the world works. In any group of people, some are going to be more popular than others. It's no different here than in school, a workplace, or club. I don't see why FriendFeed (or any other social media service) should be expected to be any different.
- Rochelle
Really... I disagree, I have only seen this shit here... I don't give a rats ass about popularity, it's a lame thing... it's like people RT tweets just cos of who it is, not what they say.. THAT is lame!
- Rob Sellen :o)
Try counting to ten. You'll feel better. Or have a beer.
- Ben Hanten
So never, in your life, have you seen or experienced a situation where some people are more popular or get more attention than others? You've never been to a high school, have you?
- Rochelle
I do that quite a lot lol.. don't drink Ben ;o) Rochelle.. I never said that... show me another site as bad as this one for it? Never been to a high school? WTF kind of question is that? What do you think?
- Rob Sellen :o)
:)
- Rochelle
You may remember a while ago when i said this sort of thing, and I said it from a 3rd party angle, ie... others complain about it too, why do we all not at least stop fawning over the "popular" people.... like a bunch of asslickers... and NOTICE others here... THAT is the answer... ironic, but that thread had some GREAT tips in it... did it change anything? NOPE...
- Rob Sellen :o)
I have done a lot of things on this site that I guess have gotten me a little attention and a few subscribers including making an ass of myself in audios, photos and videos, posing semi-nude, and leaving intelligent comments on anything that seemed interesting. I still don't get *that* much interaction on my feed, but one thing I never did was complain that nobody was paying me any attention. It's worked out well for me.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
Glad to hear that. ;o) Ah well.. like I said before, I maybe shouldn't have done it, but on the other hand I am not the only one, and nothing has changed...
- Rob Sellen :o)
YOU probably haven't changed. You keep doing the same things and expecting a different result. That is INSANITY. You expect the world to change to accomodate you? This single service is no different. It works a certain way, the only part you have control over is your activity. Figure out what you need to do to get what you want. All the folks you say are so popular? That's what they did. I watched them all. Everyone didn't come here with 1000's of minions like R. Scoble.
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
I am insane??? :o/
- Rob Sellen :o)
You're going to unsub from me? :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Not unsubbing from you no.. ;o) Rah... I don't ask for "popularity".. I just think so many peoples things do go missed here. Thanks for the other side of the coin though, appreciated... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
It's ebb and flow, I guess. However, what makes FF the place for me, is the ability to jump into conversations and interact at all times. Twitter feels a bit one-sided. But as they say, YMMV.
- JA Castillo
One other thing, Rob. You post a lot from Twitter and Google Reader. I would say if you really looked at which posts get the most love, they tend to not be from either of those sources. Flickr, bookmarklet, etc will bring you more love.
- Ben Hanten
yeah I gotta turn some of that stuff off... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Native FriendFeed Login & Sharing is here - http://blog.js-kit.com/2009...
Andy C, Shane and michael sean wright liked this
So let me get this straight. RSS is dead because one guy stopped reading Google Reader? I am reading more feeds than ever.
Jon Gosier, sull, beersage and 94 other people liked this
That's up and to the right. I am now reading almost 30 percent more feeds than I was reading a month ago. Bring it on. And RSS powers everything - not just feed readers.
- Louis Gray
I just started...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Pubsubhubbub is making RSS even faster. RSS is behind FriendFeed, LazyFeed, and every relevant aggregator. This argument is so silly.
- Louis Gray
Twitter's a great basic RSS reader for headlines and more realtime/'now' stuff. Not ditching NetNewsWire/Google Reader for actual post material anytime soon though.
- BeauGiles
I agree, but RSS could do with a few upgrades here and there though (I just want to comment on blogs straight from the feed itself).
- Hugh Isaacs II
Couldn't agree more. Sure, it might turn into more 'plumbing' for many users, but RSS is far from dead.
- Brad Kellett
900 articles a day? Now that's a lot!
- 321
Louis: I am writing an article about this. It will be in your reader a few minutes after it hits Twitter. :-)
- Robert Scoble
RSS: 1. Really Simple Syndication ; 2. Rich Site Summary => I like the interpretation #2 better.
- Ethan Gahng
That's fine, Robert. We're already discussing it here, though. :)
- Louis Gray
My headline? RSS: interesting or boring? (Hint @marshallk and @louisgray, we’re not normal)
- Robert Scoble
I never said I was normal. Just that I am kicking ass at my job. :) And that anyone else who wants to ought really read feeds. imho
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Agree with Marshall (and Scoble). I believe the best information producers are those who consume lots of information. Know your craft and use the best tools.
- Louis Gray
Marshall: you can read the feeds. The real news lately is being broken in Twitter. But I'm glad someone reads all those feeds so I don't have to!
- Robert Scoble
The signal to noise ratio in feeds is 10x to 100x better than Twitter, though. Even if you do prune your list of Twitter folks (as you have), much of what is there is not news-related.
- Louis Gray
Twitter is the news ticker. If you rely on the ticker to inform your opinion of the world... Good luck
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
I had no clue why anyone would use Dave Winer's Twitter OPML tool to get all tweets from friends via RSS. But I tried it anyway and discovered that it's easier to find the really relevant stuff when you get tweets via RSS. I can skim through 1,000 tweets in a few minutes and separate the signal from the noise much more efficiently. And, of course, it's all searchable in GReader.
- Dominic Jones
I'm with Louis on this. RSS is far from over. Like Louis, the number of feeds I'm subscribed to is on the increase, too. Services like Lazyfeed and Toluu are making it far easier for me to discover great new content.
- Andrew Terry
RSS is critical to the growth of the social web, and is growing quickly. It will eventually be replaced by friendlier, less protocol centric technologies that shield the user from the mess that is ATOM/RSS etc.
- William Toll
Me too. Feedly has rebooted my RSS reading.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
completely agree. google reader is a great feed reader and is getting better GUI wise by the week. great avenue for syndication via friendfeed
- James Butler
from BuddyFeed
Taking into account that Im far from been an expert, I want to leave a thought. What if the way of use is simply different I mean, ok twitter is real time while RSS has some minutes delay, but in any case if I receive 900 hits/day I will not be able to read them all as they come so I dont see the problem on getting some delay.To me is just a question of leaving the noise on Twitter as is much more quick to read and pass through the news & info and get the selected ones on RSS for better storage and record.
- Luis Guijarro
RSS needs a proper comment API, so you can fetch all recent comments on all posts in one call from a blog - with threading if the site supports that.
- Richard Cunningham
That particular person was serving up link bait
- Dave Hodson
Dave: links are dead. Or so says the same person (Steve Gillmor).
- Robert Scoble
I stopped using Google reader a couple of years ago and I now just read it in the stream with my Twitter, Facebook, Flickr mixed in (in FriendBinder [disclosure: I wrote FriendBinder]) I'm not sure why other people don't do something similar.
- Richard Cunningham
Stuart: life streaming is a headline with a link. For the most part.
- Robert Scoble
The reports of my death are sadly mistaken - quote Mr. RSS
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Google reader is a great tool...if you keep it to only important and feeds that matters to you
- testbeta
louis agreed I love using google reader. great tool.
- (jeff)isageek
I love RSS and losing it would change how I work (and play), but I really wish it would be more mainstream. I work in technical sales and I bet <30% of that group even uses RSS day to day. I bet for the non-techies it is closer to 10%.
- Bill Grant
Love RSS and Reader both, my feed reading is rising day by day!
- Ahad Bokhari
i'm with you on this louis
- Andy Jenks
RSS is dead. Long live RSS!
- Aaron Strout
I can't seem to stop reading. Anyone else using Feedly in conjunction with Google Reader?
- ronnieledesma
RSS is an essential part of many things now. The argument is irrelevant and though I'd never say they were wrong, they are misdirected or trying to get a reaction. :)
- James Stratford
I use FF, Twitter and Google Reader for different things. Twitter and FF are far more about Buzz and the conversations around the topics. In Reader I aggregate many different original sources together. There is less need for it to be on-the-spot live, but it needs to be deeper and more detailed to be of value, and it is. They serve different purposes for me.
- Robert
Lately, I've been dumping select Twitter & FF feeds into Google Reader, as well as Posterous feeds, so even though I'm using all of these services, GR has now become more of a hub for me. Also: gReactions gives me a sense of how popular a feed item is. I would wish GR would incorporate these kinds of services so I could get more metadata about a feed item.
- phil baumann
Ughh, no, I believe the RSS is dead mantra arose from the real time Twitter phenomenon, however, us smarties know you gotta verify your sources & our attention spans MORE than the space of 140 characters. Catch that, the dual use of metaphor...attention "spans" MORE...As per myself, I read more articles via RSS feeds than ever as well.
- sofarsoShawn
So am I but not in Google reader, I read mine on my desktop in my e-mail program, they come to me, I don't go 'looking for them' I love RSS!
- Sandra Large
Say, don't Twitter streams have RSS feeds? The icon's right there at the bottom of the sidebar...
- Dennis Jernberg
RSS? It'll never displace Usenet.
- Ian Tindale
RSS is very alive and well and dare I say, even young. With tech news, there aren't necessarily thousands of sources like with general business news, etc. Where RSS will be big is in who can create the best filters for those larger niches. But the RSS readers we have today don't support all the features we'd need to create those filters. Google Reader management taps out at maybe 1500 feeds in Chrome, the most of any reader that can export opml (not just rss like Friendfeed).
- beersage
I agree that the problem with RSS is filtering. If something changed the way I use the Net was RSS, but now the volume is so great that unless you prune your feeds regularly you can end up with a lot of garbage. Most average users don't have any idea of what RSS is and that's something that can't cease to amaze me.
- Angel B
RSS & EMAIL are not dead. They are getting better and faster. PUSH tech can push anything. Push Email on mobile devices is just as fast as twitter. And now we are going to PUSH RSS/ATOM. Twitter is different, yet the same. Sure, maybe a news headline will break first on twitter but will I see it before I see it in my inbox or reader? Prob not because I'm not frozen staring at a twitter...
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