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leolaporte: The Twitter-Bing deal underscores the problem with data silos. Shouldn't search be universal? They're my tweets, not theirs. - http://twitter.com/leolapo...

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If they're "your tweets" why do you put them in Twitter? The 'silos' argument continues to leak oil. Search is what search vendors make it -- nothing is universal. - Cliff Gerrish

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It's a net neutrality issue. Twitter offers full access to the stream of data (our tweets) only to the highest bidder, not universally. ALL search engines (and others) should have full and equal access to this dataset. - Leo Laporte

Totally agree with Leo, a worst case scenario is Bing gets exclusive access to both FB and Twitter. At that point everyone needs to get working on PubSubHubBub, rssCloud and/or FriendFeed2 and decentralize social networks. They are becoming a basic communication mechanism and they seem to reside under the control of 3-4 people. Imagine if email had been under the control of 2 companies for the last couple decades. - Ed Millard

Completely agree with Leo, I wasn't sure of this but they way Leo puts it, makes clear that its net neutrality issue - Veetrag

Sounds like a nationalize Twitter argument to me. All search engines may spider the public pages. Why should they also have access to Twitter's internals? - Cliff Gerrish

And since they're "your tweets" why don't you publish them or make them available to search engines yourself. Wouldn't that be the most 'distributed' solution? - Cliff Gerrish

In addition, it looks like Google will also have a deal with Twitter. The Bing deal is non-exclusive. The introduction of the term 'net neutrality' is completely orthogonal. - Cliff Gerrish

The basic FF Tornado server is already open source. It has demos with basic functionality, Google login authentication very simple blog, chat and facebook client. Unfortunately I don't think they've open sourced the actual FF server so it would be quite a bit of development work to get Tornado back to the same level of functionality as the current FF server. Hard to say if you could pull it off and get the existing FF user base to migrate in tact and then grow it again. - Ed Millard

To be honest I don't really want tweets to be in search. It's bad enough that engines are filled with crappy blogs* and price comparison sites. I want my search to be authoritative. Seems lille this will creat a)noise b)tweet 'seo' and c) tweet seo 'experts'. *unless your a spammer this is unlikely to refer to you - Phill Price from iPhone

Phill: sorry, there are SOME Tweets that will help search. I'm seeing those come through all the time. http://twitter.com/favorit... has more than six thousand tweets -- all of which should be on search. - Robert Scoble

Glen: "net neutrality" and "universal access", I'm sure you know, are the government's buzzwords they're using to ram their toe into the door. Next comes the rest of the foot, then the calf, and when they're finished they've opened the door wide so that THEY have access to all of the data as well. It's for the children, ya know. - Craig Eddy

Rutger: my tweet showed up on Bing nearly instantly yesterday. So that's pretty real time to me. Bing and Google have access to the FULL firehose feed. Real time is here baby! Now, is it useful? That's another question. - Robert Scoble

The cost of search will be proportional to demand, according to the theory. $D - Donald C. Lindsay

Robert: how does bing compare in overall latency to friendfeed search? - Mike Chelen

FFing Enigma

As someone following about 1900 people, I gotta say: my home feed is spinning like a top today. Where was everybody two months ago? =( Sorry, I know that sounded mean and bitter and I don't mean it that way. I just feel like my favorite bar put up a notice that it might (or might not, who knows!) be closing at the end of the year...

August 11, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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Facebook would be crazy not to provide an alternative venue. FriendFeed *is* the future of social. Zuckerberg is not that stupid that he won't understand this. - Meryn Stol

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My concern, Meryn, is that FB will try to merge this userbase into the existing FB infrastructure. As much as I truly enjoy my interactions with FFers, the FB platform will make it almost impossible for me to do so. It'd be like my favorite bar deciding to start hosting children's birthday parties during happy hour. The two don't mesh. If they opt to keep FF up as a guinea pig site, separate from FB.com, I'm actually AOK with that. I'll be a guinea pig. - FFing Enigma

@Tina Lets hope it turns out that way, I've been here for only 2 months and LO!=( - Abhishek

Tina. Zuckerberg does recognize this new way of being social. Why else would they have offered to acquire Twitter, and why else have they been copying features from FriendFeed. They've just introduced site-wide search through all public timelines. It's Zuckerberg's dream to make people behave on Facebook like they do on Twitter and FriendFeed. He knows that this will eventually be much bigger than the model Facebook started out with. - Meryn Stol

Zuckerberg knows Facebook is lacking. That's the only possible explanation for the growth of Twitter. Do you think Zuckerberg wants his site to be "lacking"? - Meryn Stol

@Meryn, the point some of us are trying to make is that there isn't a one-size-fits-all behavior model. I behave differently here and on Facebook, _on purpose_. I have different social networks in the two places, and I won't be merging them. Everybody and their grandmother seems to think that I want to have my dad, my co-workers, my RL friends, my online friends, and a bunch of Django... more... - Ken Kennedy

In a thread started by Scoble, Ian Betteridge brought up the idea of a "Facebook Conversations" area. The FriendFeed site would become just that. I personally don't think that if Facebook had managed to acquire Twitter, they had tried to kill it. Zuckerberg is envious of Twitter's growth. It's the growth of a new social graph, based on asymmetric relationships and public updates. Zuckerberg wants to get into that game. - Meryn Stol

There's no way they would've shut Twitter down if they'd bought it. Twitter is a brand name with national media attention. Lacking in tech, but still recognized. FriendFeed is exactly the opposite: some really beefy, usable, one of a kind tech that hasn't broken into the national spotlight. It's the dream acquisition, one where you can cherry pick all the really shiny parts without... more... - FFing Enigma

Wow, Tina - you just said a lot and nailed it. - phil baumann

Tina, my point is, that because they wanted to buy Twitter (for 500MM!!), they see value in their model. Because their technology perse doesn't amount to much. Since the offer was refused, I think Zuckerberg now looks into options to go into this space themselves. I think they gonna try to compete with Twitter now. Again, see public timelines, site-wide search, pages with "fans", etc. - Meryn Stol

It really is a shame, the biggest downside is the huge disconnect between the two platforms, FriendFeed is about letting users aggregate, comment on and share content from and with services all over the Internet, even services of the user's own design. FaceBook is a giant closed sandbox that wants to consume everything and then lock everyone into it. That nature alone is what makes me sad about this, even if the platform stays the same that attitude is going to eventually leak in (I fear) and spoil the fun. - matthew john ernisse

What Tina said is one of my concerns. I'm not sure the way I use FriendFeed is compatible with the likely future of the technology at Facebook. The core technologies will probably be broken off and integrated into Facebook pages, and once that is done Facebook will have little reason to support a separate FriendFeed site. - John (bird whisperer)

Meryn, I agree that all of those features you mentioned will almost certainly exist. Unfortunately, they will exist *within the confines* of FaceBook and almost certainly not on as a separate, external site i.e. FriendFeed.com (because really, it doesn't make any sense to duplicate the functionality between two separate platforms). Even if FaceBook breaks down the wall around their... more... - FFing Enigma

Yes Tina, you nailed it. Meryn, I don't think Facebook can ever be what FF is even with (and especially with) more openness unless they allow pseudonymous and multiple accounts, and I'm not holding my breath. - Tinfoil 2.0 from iPhone

Tina, why don't you think Zuckerberg doesn't want Facebook to be also appealing to you? The rise of Twitter and FriendFeed both signal Facebook's current offering doesn't cut it for many. Why wouldn't he try to be self-critical and try to offer a better package? If he does not, he'll lose the people to the company who does... It's not like no-one can build a new FriendFeed. Twitter of... more... - Meryn Stol

Meryn, I wish I could affirm everything you're saying but Tina is probably right. Friendfeed WAS the future of social networking. Not anymore. This is exactly what FB wanted. - Vicarbott

++Tina for that comparison up there. - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)

I think the only way FB could become like FF is if it became...well...FF. - phil baumann

Phil, and are we not seeing signs of that happening? Commenting, likes, site-wide search.... And now an acquisition. - Meryn Stol

Meryn, no one wants FaceBook to be appealing to me. The staff at FaceBook wants it to appeal to the majority of users, and the current majority of users obviously like FaceBook for what it is now. That doesn't mean they won't add some of FriendFeed's technology (like search, which is apparently already going through the mill), but the overall concept of 'FaceBook' will still focus on... more... - FFing Enigma

"The staff at FaceBook wants it to appeal to the majority of users, and the current majority of users obviously like FaceBook for what it is now" - Except for all the people who are much more engaged with Twitter now. I think Zuckerberg has Twitter envy. - Meryn Stol

Meryn - yes, but I see two major problem areas: 1) Facebook's culture is just different from FF. 2) So far FB is pretty closed - there's something different about the kind of sharing that transpires in a public environment like FF versus the more private garden of FB. If FB can break out of the wall, then it may get closer to FF (not just adopting and usurping FF features as they've been doing for a while). - phil baumann

Meryn, Facebook and FriendFeed have opposing philosophies. Facebook starts from the position that you are an IRL person and have some close contacts (family and friends) that you trust and want to share with, then you branch out and share with more people, perhaps limiting what the wider circle sees. FriendFeed works more like a public gathering place, you start with people getting... more... - Tinfoil 2.0

LE: There have been enough signs that Zuckerberg wants Facebook to evolve. They still have to cater to their existing user base of course. It's just like Microsoft now going into cloud services. They won't kill the desktop version of Office. There's still high customer demand. Still they want to have just as good of a cloud offering as Google Apps or Zoho Office. Why? They know this is... more... - Meryn Stol

By the way, sorry Tina for messing up your thread. You''d probably wanted to have some sympathy here instead of an elaborate discussion on the future of the social networking industry. ;) - Meryn Stol

Nah, I'm always up for discussion =) I still believe, unfortunately, that FF will be cannibalized for tech and staff and the overall feel of FaceBook will not change appreciably for the better. Adding more features does not equal becoming a better service when some of the existing features are convoluted, annoying, unusable, etc. - FFing Enigma

I think we mainly differ in our impression of Zuckerberg's smarts. I think he has bought FF to be able to compete with Twitter, because he doesn't need to compete in the classic social networking space (e.g. real-life, mutual friendships). He has no serious competition there. The fact that he bought a company instead of trying to do it with his own team signals he understands Facebook in total wasn't smart enough to do it themselves. That in turn, says much about his intelligence - at least for me. - Meryn Stol

I don't think it's really an issue of Zuckerberg's smarts. Obviously it takes smarts to build such a popular service. The question is what he wants to do with FriendFeed, and whether what he wants is the same as what the FF user base wants. Even if the FB interface improves with the addition of FF technology, it still may not approach the open-ended conversation model of FF. - John (bird whisperer)

Zuckerberg has had years to open up his walled garden. That simple step would have catapulted FB from networking to social media. If every FB user's URL facebook.com/UserName were viewable from anywhere online without a logon including the accompanying status updates, links, photos, etc. : POOF he would have trumped Twitter for material content and FF for user base. That was all he had... more... - FFing Enigma

Tina, indeed. And whether it was stupidity or malevolence, now he pays the price in the form of Twitter, and many people calling Facebook "dead" or "irrelevant". You think he likes that? - Meryn Stol

Actually, your argument doesn't really hold because he has to deal with the user expectation that their updates posted to FB are private. What I mean is that indeed he has in some ways missed the boat... But I think that he really wants to catch up. It was worth 500MM to him to own Twitter, and 50MM to be more competitive with them. - Meryn Stol

Best I recall (and I don't pay all that much attention to this type of news so I could be wrong), FaceBook was still WAY larger than Twitter. More importantly, FB has an up and running monetization strategy while Twitter's is... Well, they're working on it. People might call it dead or irrelevant but it's still the biggest game in town for the type of service it offers (which is much... more... - FFing Enigma

Tina, I don't know if you know, but they already ask that question now... It's just that they won't turn over their existing users that easy. It's all what you used to. On top of that, many people can use Twitter and FriendFeed in public mode because they have Facebook as their private space. That's why I think Facebook would do best to offer up an extra timeline which is always public. Hence why I brought up Ian's idea of "Facebook Coversations" (near the top of this thread). - Meryn Stol

Yes, I'm aware that they ask the question now, it's buried in their privacy mess. How many of their millions of users actually know that the question is there, that the option is there? - FFing Enigma

Yup, so I think they will change that. I'm sure that the FF team can learn them a thing or two about simplicity. Again, the acquisition signals that they did not think they could compete with Twitter on their own. Zuckerberg explicitly praises the elegance and simplicity of Friendfeed in the press release. Now, he can have them at his table regularly. - Meryn Stol

i've been getting my ass kicked by 2 babies - I wanted to be on here more I swear!!!! ; ) - Marco(aureliusmaximus)

Wow, nice thread, read the full thing! Very interesting points by Logical Extremes & Meryn (Tina too of course) Just wanted to know by this comment (as I'm not fully fluent): what was the exact point of the post? That you might stop using FF? I wasn't totally sure from the direction the discussion took. Where was everybody? I was into some cyber-depression and now kicking at it again ;p - Zu from AOD

i cant even keep track of 150 1900....my brain hurts just thinking about it. ouch! - echostreamer

Zu, the original post was mainly me musing that there are so many new people on FF that joined after the buyout news and wondering what would have happened if they'd joined a few months ago. Would there have been a buyout? The discussion turned to thoughts on FB in general and I'm ok with that: turns of discussion makes things interesting =). Echo, I make no effort to keep track of all... more... - FFing Enigma

Oh, how interesting! So buyout meant subs from everywhere I suppose, from unknown peeps... have you been 'spammed' in any way? I, too, is wondering about that now that you mentioned it, people subbed to me in masses during my leave of absence and was wondering why. I'll look into those buyout news as I don't have any details on the case yet but obviously, the buyer being FB is big news. Thanks for the reply there, you've always been one of my favorite users, give the poor n00bs a chance! 9) - Zu from AOD

Scoble, Alex Scoble

Telling me off for not reading TechCrunch is like telling me off for not drinking Old Milwaukee...Yeah, it's EXACTLY like that.

August 11, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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ROFL Who told you off for not reading TechCrunch? - Neal "thePuck" Jansons

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TechCrunch is just another tech blog... Except their founder enjoys creating controversy. - Carlton Prest

Some TechCrunch lackey https://friendfeed.com/itblogg... - Scoble, Alex Scoble

Yes, their founder and his shenanigans ruin any utility I might find on the site - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM

Don't be scared to dish out the OBP: Oh, bitch please. O_o - Derrick

Sorry, but the only reason TechCrunch is still in my RSS reader is I am too lazy to delete it. - Andy Glover

You guys crack me up. - Scoble, Alex Scoble

I would rather drink Old Milwaukee than read TechCrunch. - Michael McKean

Me too...me too. In other words, to the writer who "reported" on the Facebook/friendfeed acquisition, get a job writing for someone else if you want to be read. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM

This topic is probably part of the reason why MA never liked FF. We were all too intelligent to 'like' him back. - travispuk

What?!!! Who's not drinking Old Milwaukee? --signed, Pabst Blue Ribbon - .LAG liked that

Yeah, I only drink beers that A) come in bottles and B) cost more than $1 per bottle (regular non-sale retail for 6 pack) and C) aren't brewed at your local Stroh's/Anheiser Busch/Coors - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM

Except for Bodington's/Guinness/etc. that come in cans with the nitrogen charge...those are tasty when poured in to a glass. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM

*takes pipe out of mouth and points it at Alex*... Carefully there boi, seems you be fixing to get one of those mobs happenin... :P - Johnny from iPhone

:-D - John (bird whisperer)

A mob against Arrington? I think that's the definition of Karma. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM

LOL! My sentiments exactly Alex, but WARM Old Milwaukee :) - JCunwired

<3Heather<3

Why I don't like FF. (A short break down of why I don't understand claims that it's best thing since sliced bread.)

August 11, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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1) I can't hide everything posted to a certain group or containing a certain hashtag. - <3Heather<3

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2) I have no friends here, I have "subscribers" as if I was a magazine. Pressure much? - <3Heather<3

3) I can't choose to see only what a specific subscriber has posted, instead of what they also "like" or comment on. - <3Heather<3

4) A long thin box is not a fabulous layout, especially when it does not expand according to browser window size. - <3Heather<3

5) Time stamps are like easter eggs, you have to know you are looking for them to find them. - <3Heather<3

6) It just sold its soul to the Heart of Darkness. - Lo the Baker

7) [Redacted], [redacted], and [redacted] are annoying as hell and can't seem to be avoided on this thing! (names removed to protect my cowardly butt from flaming) - Lo the Baker

wait am i on 7 now? anyhow, I have no idea how to find new content outside the bubble of people I'm subscribed too, and who they like/comment on. - <3Heather<3

Lo... block is your friend in those (hopefully rare) #7 cases. Oh, and #6: right on. - Tinfoil 2.0

?) I have no idea if it's possible to not have content in other languages show up. Hiding it is annoying. - <3Heather<3

10 or something) Hidden posts seem to take up space on the main page instead of allowing space for unhidden content. I hid the damn posts! If I wanted them on the main feed I wouldn't have hidden them! - <3Heather<3

Heather, looking down your feed, you seem to have coments and likes on most of your posts... that's more than a lot of people can say. Looks like you are actually engaging quite well. It may help to add in feeds from other places you share stuff... Flickr, Twitter, etc. - Tinfoil 2.0

Ad #3 - yes you can. Use the "from:username" or "comment:username" or "like:username" to narrow down the results. The first returns only the username's posts, the second comments and third likes. Be aware however - there is a user name here called "username" ;.-(( - ianf ⌘

@ianf- I should have been more specific. I can't seem to choose to only have subscribers posts in the main feed. I'd like to be able to tailor my main feed a little more then what it seems I can do. - <3Heather<3

Heather, you can have subscribEEs only in your main feed... just disable Friend-of-a-friend. - Tinfoil 2.0

@Logical- I despise the concept of Twitter and the last time I put something on Flickr was like 3 months ago. I have FB, MySpace and LJ, but only use LJ and this on a regular basis. - <3Heather<3

Can I disable Friend-of-Friend for specific people? or is it all or nothing? I really don't know how to go around doing this stuff. I don't think I have the same idea of logical flow as most people. - <3Heather<3

It just takes some time and practice, and there are plenty of people willing to help. Friend-of-a-friend is all or nothing as far as I know. But if you like some of your friends' friends (just follow some of their links if you're not sure), just add them as friends. You can even put them in a group until you decide for sure if you want them in your main feed. For a site with features so rich, I think it's impossible to make everything instantly visible and intuitive. - Tinfoil 2.0

I guess I'm used to "Settings" being the go to place to make changes. Or being able to edit preferences within the section I want to edit. (uh oh, that sound's like FB doesn't it? lol) I've always been a Mac person so I can usually poke my way around to where I need to be. I don't think FF was set up to be user friendly for the un-techy. - <3Heather<3

Heather, every one of your complaints/ wished is valid. And so are complaints/ wishes/ whatever of others. The trouble is, FF team has to chose something over nothing. They can't have functional bloat that'd make the service directly unusable, The sad truth about this and other participatory sites, is that not a single one of them will have just the correct "mix" of features and options... more... - ianf ⌘

@Lo Did you mean to say that you feel annoyed by the [redacted]s rather than they are annoying? I mean in the spirit of "owning your feelings"... - Edward Zwart

I take back #3. It seems if I hide something that was liked/commented on, I can hide everything that's "friend of" that person. Sorry for jumping the gun on that one. - <3Heather<3

Louis Gray

To Jump on the Massive Unfollowing Trend Would Be a Mistake - http://www.louisgray.com/live...

August 6, 2009 from louisgray.com - Comment - Like - Share

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"So too do I see it better that 100 spammers fill my feed than I lose access to the innocents who remain. I am not so self-centered as to believe I know the full set of people who I can learn from and derive value. So don't look for me to start shaking my numbers down on any of the networks - even if it is getting more popular. " love this part of the post, however I want just to notice... more... - abdellah

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fighting talk - I do believe you just called scoble self-centered. Still I am sure he has been called worse ;) - Riaz Kanani

it's not about unfollowing, it's about filtering - Barak Hachamov

filter before you fellow - abdellah

Riaz, Scoble and I get along great. I wouldn't call him self-centered. - Louis Gray

I shared this in GR as soon as I read it. Congrats on a great post, Louis! All I can say is finally someone has said it. This trend of unfollowing is rather disturbing imho and shows how self-centered some people are, how desperate for attention others are, and how they all are rather clueless at creating valuable networks on these social tools they so much love to love. - Vlad Bobleanta

true, but people who don't appreciate following others shouldn't do it and shld unfollow..keeps tweeting young and influential. also, the only way to get rid of spam is to unfollow/block each such perp - Amit 'zyaada' Mittal

Louis: you will come to dislike your choice here. I used to say the same thing, but as you get more and more people who you aren't interested in you'll realize you just aren't getting anything out of the home page on Twitter anymore and, worse, you are getting spammed both on it and via DMs. That might not be a big problem for you with 12,000 friends, but as your numbers move up (and they will) you'll hit the same problems I did. - Robert Scoble

Why is Louis' followers number growing very very slowly relative to his popularity on the net - Mark

Robert, I never did get anything out of the homepage of Twitter anyway. :) - Louis Gray

I think unfollowing makes sense on Twitter. On Friendfeed Lists are your friends. - Paul Kinlan

Mark, I would say it has to do with not being put on any kind of suggested list. :) - Louis Gray

I don't find that the Twitter website does a good job of making Twitter usable. The applications are what make it usable for me. - Michael Owens

Unfollowing kinda makes sense. Have you ever played an RPG the second time through... you know what to do in the beginning, you aren't lost, and you know what your end goal is? Yeah. That's pretty much what we are talking about here. - Evan Travers

I like that Evan :) RPG - michelle harris

Yeah, the real thing here is we both are heavy users of FriendFeed. That's why I didn't care that my Twitter feed was getting worse and worse. Over the past year I've done almost all my Twitter reading here on FriendFeed. Now that I've restarted it, though, damn is it 100x more useful! And, yes, there are lots of people who are on Twitter who aren't on FriendFeed. - Robert Scoble

I could barely handle following 600 or so people, even with appropriate tweetdeck filters. There were too many people who just weren't adding value. I made a particular point to unfollow anyone who regarded themselves as an "SEO" or "Internet Marketing" expert.. I had made the mistake of following back anyone who followed me and slowly began to realize that they were just playing the numbers game. - Neeraj Kumar Agrawal

abdellah: I am starting to agree with "filter before you follow", which I also believe is what Robert Scoble is doing now as he starts to follow people. Louis Gray: I don't think it is a movement to unfollow everyone, at least, not for me. I think Scoble had to start from scratch because of the number he had... for me, having a very small number in comparison, I will start unfollowing... more... - Timothy Federwitz

I've been curious as to the counter argument to this trend. Scoble's reaction albeit extreme is one I can empathize with, but unnecessarily severe. I appreciate the alternate perspective and grounded reasoning to your approach. While I have far fewer followers the numbers have crossed the line of unmanageable with out an automation service. Thanks for the great post and food for thought. - Jim Goldstein

Scoble has this big 7 point list of criteria for following you on twitter, but on Friendfeed he will follow anyone who asks! - Mark

Mark: that's because on FriendFeed I can have lists. So I can use a variety of different following strategies here. On twitter I can only follow or not. - Robert Scoble

I think I am in the middle on this. I am not about to wholesale unfollow everyone, but the noise from news bots etc in my twitter feed is getting insane. I am still nowhere close to "getting" FF so I am still struggling a bit here too.. In fact, I have fallen right back into the trap I was in a few months ago. I think it's time for another social medai diet - Andy Glover

Robert, you can certainly use tools like tweet deck to create groups, but . . .whatever. To me, it's just not an issue, either way. I like it when folks that I find interesting (and Robert is certainly among them!) follow me back, but it's not essential. I don't need to follow the Roberts of the world on Twitter in order to check in on what they're up to, from time to time. Unless someone has a private feed, it seems to be a non-issue. - Kathy Fitch

Andy: on FriendFeed whenever things go nutty, just open up a new friend list and move your high quality follows into that. Leave all the other people in the old list, so you can check in once in a while. - Robert Scoble

I don't see how anyone could follow as many people as Robert w/o losing control. Twitter would become marginalized by sheer un-manageability. Even with groups etc. there's only so much real estate on a monitor. I have groups on FriendFeed as well but honestly I spend most of my time on the home feed. - Rick Bucich

That said, when I'm launching a new twitter presence (as I just have for an organization), it's *really, really great* when people and organizations with similar interests follow back. If nobody did, that would just be sad. Still, I'm mostly interested in the feed aspect of things, so even then, it's not really crucial to have followers. - Kathy Fitch

What I don't get, and what has never been explained to me despite asking, is why have low "quality follows" in the first place? I know you follow me, and given that there is seldom interaction its quite apparent I'm not on the high quality follows list. If its not for ego, what's the point? Mass unfollow, filter, etc. that's entirely your decision, but why follow to the point that mass unfollow is necessary? - JCunwired

I've always had the policy of being quick to follow and even quicker to unfollow. As soon as someone begins to bore or annoy me I just unfollow them. But on the other hand I'm glad to follow people on a whim. You never know. - Leo Laporte

Rick--so true. In some ways, the conversations that these folks with massive followings are having around the follow/unfollow issue just is utterly irrelevant to those of us with more moderate goals and purposes. - Kathy Fitch

Nice to see Leo Laporte being more involved on Friendfeed - Mark

Right Leo - follow to see what's interesting, unfollow when you find out there's no value. The alternative, if I may say so, is misleading and unfair to the end user. - JCunwired

Value in this instance is pretty subjective, and that's the point, really. What is your subject position? I'm in SMB mode, so what I'm after is quite unlike what a twit guru would be after. For me, the following/follower # some are cutting down to would be massive. If I hit those numbers, then I'd probably want to trim it back down. Robert is still about 500 over anything I'd be interested in. - Kathy Fitch

One of the first people I looked through was Leo Laporte's following page. He has some great people who he is following. - Robert Scoble

Take a look at Dave Winer's RSS Cloud technique - a great way to assess a following list in your newsreader before adding. http://www.scripting.com/stories... - Leo Laporte

Why limit yourself? Someone asks to follow me, I check out their profile and tweets. If the words SEO,check out my webcam, or Arrington are there, I don't follow, If I do follow, I give them a month and then unfollow if any major douchbaggery makes its way to mine eyes. - Paul Puri

Ah, somewhere there's an SEO person who is offering useful tweets about how beginners can use the basic Google Analytics and Webmaster tools to help them create better, more useful sites for users and potential users. That person could be good for some folks to follow. - Kathy Fitch

On the "low quality followers/follows" point, I really needed some of those at first to help me get a feel for the ebb and flow. The trajectory of any given twitter user's account, if it's public, probably follows that basic pattern of "whoo hooo, followers!" to "what the heck?" to "now that I get how it works, how would I like it to work for me?" Seems pretty common sense. It's okay that answers to the final question vary. All as it should be. - Kathy Fitch

I'm just generalizing, of course, but most of the people who try to follow me that have SEO in their bio have 10 tweets and they are link bait. - Paul Puri

I shared w/ Robert and will share with you, YES I spend too much time trying to block all the FakePornSpamBot accounts. And I miss blocking many. BUT, my HOME Stream is the most amazing view of the world! With a few refreshes I can get the pulse of what's going on! Besides, even if someone is often a voyeur, there are those times they pop up and share the most insightful things! I believe I can learn from everyone! So if you're real and follow me - I'll follow you! - Arleen Boyd

In parallel to this, I do manage a corporate account for one of the companies I consult for. Every follow and unfollow there is measured. But I learned a long time ago, that at least for me, people just want to be connected, on any network they prefer, so I try not to get in their way. - Louis Gray

Louis: there's another aspect to this too: every follow you make signals to the world what kind of person you are. Look at my following list. You'll see geeks, VCs, journalists, entrepreneurs. Who isn't there? Not many celebrities. Not many plumbers or quilters, if any at all. That signals to the world the kind of people I want to have in my life and the kinds of information I want to hear. If you are autofollowing that opportunity to signal to the world is totally lost. - Robert Scoble

Chris: always. :-) - Robert Scoble

Oh, Paul, point well taken, of course. I'm just pointing out that they've no doubt ruined it for a handful of smart and useful SEO folks. Arleen was actually one of the first folks to follow me back, and just watching her from a distance (I guess that makes me a voyeur? <grin>) helped give me a good feel for how someone at her level of #'s worked with the system. Very educational! - Kathy Fitch

The "signal to the world" bit makes much more sense to me on the corporate accounts I'm working with. For the Catholic parish, for instance, who to follow gets really important. I can't afford to have anything with even a whiff of inappropriateness about it in the stream. That's going to be a very small list! - Kathy Fitch

I just think the only way you can do this wrong is if you don't continually revise your thinking and your approach. Right on to all of you for exploring this topic. - hollyrae

Leo, I can usually tell by the last 4 to 5 tweets whether I should follow back. But, everyone is annoying or boring sometimes (including myself) so I don't unfollow very often unless someone's stream becomes overly promotional or full of gimmicks. - Rick Bucich

What's the benefit of following thousands of people? if you say its because you have to in order for them to DM you, how can you possibly respond to potentially thousands of DM's consistently? Once, I tried following everyone that followed me and it made my follower count jump quickly, but it made twitter less fun because I had random automated DM's from people I didn't know, and a useless stream of info from people I followed for no reason. - Dusty Edenfield

Robert/Kathy: I think who I follow making a statement of who I am and what I'm about is less important to me since I am using it for a personal experience and my likes are wide and deep. If I was using my Twitter account as an outward facing presence for my business/organization, then it would matter much more to me... but I'm just having fun with it and like the idea of seeing lots of... more... - Timothy Federwitz

The DM thing. Sigh. Here on FF, it's totally useful. I've never had a single pointless DM. On Twitter, it's a thing to scan very occassionally, and ignore the rest of the time, seems like. - Kathy Fitch

The thing that is being overlooked is this: The real issue is the auto-follow, NOT the total number of "following". It is what removes the vetting process. Once vetted, I'd say the more the merrier, b/c there is real value in your "with friends/following" stream, precisely b/c it is way different to search/filter it vs. regular Twitter Search. It is a huge omission/mistake that this is... more... - Alex Schleber

Since I mass unfollowed I've had SIGNIFICANTLY better interactions with the people I genuinely want to communicate with. A good % of the social media gurus who just follow in the hopes that you'll follow back unfollowed and it's seriously been like a weight lifted off my shoulders. - Ryan Stephens

(cont'd) For this reason, I will openly admit to trying to get as many of my Twitter peeps registered into FriendFeed as possible, & I won't even care if they sub to me there or not (not required for conversation on FF anyway). It's to get them into the stream that I can then search over, and further add people into separate Friend Lists from there. Currently I'm at about 1k of 3k... more... - Alex Schleber

Also see "My comment on: 'Why You Should Start Over On Twitter With A BRAND NEW Account - Twitip' Hint: I disagree" http://post.ly/1owO This about sums it up: "..the solution to overwhelm by technology is better technology, not retrenchment..". - Alex Schleber

Louis, I only read part of your post, but I agree as far as the types of people that are following others. Twitter has become a place more for business than meaningful conversations. Best thing to do is look at who is following you and purging those who just seem to market links to " Ways To Generate Massive Cash " through whatever they might be involved in hawking. - Lew Newmark

@Lew funny you call this "business". I call it "racket" - Jorge Escobar

Somewhat parenthetically, like the 19th century theoretical "corporate shield" that was supposed to shield individuals from liability, artificial demarcations between "my personal site" and "my business site" are increasingly obsolete. We are all complex, intertwined, interdependent, human-computer, systemic hybrid participants in an increasingly systematized hybrid world. The old silos... more... - michael silverton

@Louis - I think you are right. Doing something because it's a "trend" is dumb. Can you tell me what the metric is you use to measure when something breaks through to "trend" status? When "unfollow" hits Trending Topics, maybe? I didn't reboot my following list to join a trend. I did it because I really like following the people I follow...and they were getting drowned out by the people... more... - Rex Hammock

I'm going to mass unfollow everyone who ignores me :) - JCunwired

Lets be honest, this unfollowing thing by "certain" people is nothing but a PR stunt - Spencer

Spencer--well, of course this thing does have PR implications. After all, the big wigs are all talking about it non-stop, and then those on the next few tiers down from there are talking about the talking. Still, having PR implications and being a stunt aren't exactly the same thing. Many of these big name folks *are* established brands, which isn't something most of us can claim.... more... - Kathy Fitch

@Spencer - I know my unfollowing thing was nothing but a PR stunt. As is my commenting here. - Rex Hammock

agree. More than reasonable post, Luis.. - Marco Castellani

Robert Scoble

Everyone on Mashable/Twitter wants to tell me how lame I am and how I'm doing it wrong. Here's your chance to tell me I'm clueless:

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Lots of people are saying I was always doing Twitter's following wrong. It's funny how social media experts have it all figured out. So, here's your chance to tell me how screwed up I still am. - Robert Scoble

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you're clueless.. :P - Rob Sellen :o)

I think you tried a noble approach. It just was ruined by spammys. You did what you had to do to fix the problem. - Drew Lucas from iPhone

Tell me something I don't know. And tell me why. :-) - Robert Scoble

Everyone thinks they're right in Social Media. I try to ignore them. - Jesse Stay

were you? In hindsight? now you have done this big purge? - Rob Sellen :o)

Drew: the real reason why I'm clueless is cause I am on FriendFeed, where I can put people into lists. Which, by the way, make AWESOME filters for searching. - Robert Scoble

which list am I on? - Alex Scrivener

Alex: pay me $20 and I'll tell you. :-) - Robert Scoble

Your clueless Robert. You have no clue how to do the whole social media thing. Please teach me your cluelessness Master. :-P - Rasmus Lauridsen

Everyone needs to "reboot" their twitter strategy once in a while, there's no harm in it at all. It's just those out there who still think that thousands of followers is the only metric that everyone should go by to determine if you're using twitter successfully. - Richard Arblaster

Richard: bing! - Robert Scoble

What? That's ridiculous. You don't look anything like Alicia Silverstone. - John Craft

There is no right or wrong way to use (except maybe spam). Who cares what other people think about your social media habits. - Shawn Hickman

I covered the topic of mass unfollowing awhile back when @Loic and @AriHerzog unfollowed everyone. I think you might enjoy the comments in particular. http://blog.tweetworks.com/2009... - Mike Langford

Scoble is clueless like Socrates was foolish. - Pierce Presley

Rob: in hindsight, yes, I was clueless. I just didn't get quite how clueless I was, because on FriendFeed I could follow small groups, like everyone else. - Robert Scoble

Loic is not around much anymore - Mark

The reason you are clueless, is because we ALL are at the start.. how could you have known the "right" way at the start?? Couldn't.. so you NOW changed things... :o) Big difference now then? - Rob Sellen :o)

the thing you HAVEN'T been clueless about is friendfeed... ;o) - Rob Sellen :o)

your clueless, just like the rest of us !! We are all trying to figure things out.. each have their own way of doing it. To each thier own posion ! - Peter Dawson

The only way to know if your Twitter/Social Media approach is working or not is by looking to see if it is accomplishing your goals. There is no "one-size-fits-all" approach in a dynamic growing space. This Right/Wrong game is tiring at best. - Bill Sanders

I have learned that there is no one set way to do social media right or wrong. Is there an echo in here? - Mike Lewis

For half a sec I thought it was a FAB publicity stunt! Seriously Robert I adore and respect you. There are 2 different views. Twitter is different things to different people. You and I can agree to disagree. But, won't you MISS the amazing view of your HOME stream??? - Arleen Boyd

Arleen: the thing is I was looking at that screen less and less. Now I look at it a lot. Well, except for today cause Twitter has been mostly down. - Robert Scoble

I find that alot of people are a bit... selfish in social media. I follow people I find interesting. They don't need to follow me back. Maybe they don't think what I post is interesting even if I find theirs to be. We got to cut down on our ego tripping sometimes and let people enjoy the social tools, the way they enjoy em. I bet ya, there are not two people out there, that use all of this in exactly the same way, and that is great. - Rasmus Lauridsen

Steve: that's absolutely not true. Sit next to me sometime. I can follow many thousands of people. - Robert Scoble

Your comments make the conclusion that everyone that disagrees with you is a social media expert, spammer, or non-techie. Are you sure you are not a politician in disguise? LOL Putting people in groups on Friendfeed did not require a massive un-following on twitter I know what you are doing. I like FreindFeed. I would not like twitter near as much if FriendFeed was not there. I am grateful for FriendFeed and it champion. Cheers for Robert - RetiredTeacherD

Sorry Scobe, but you innovate, care deeply about all of this, and are fun to read. You don't even budge my Lame-O-Meter. (As for lame, well, AP is the King aren't they. And Reuters just told them to stop whining. Heh.) - Bob Morris (polizeros)

Seems funny to me that everybody is still talking about this issue. What's the difference between this and telling people what you're having for lunch? Twitter is chatter but from time to time, a clear interesting idea comes through and sparks a reaction. Reminds me of the thought process in my own brain... tons of ideas, lots of chatter and some gems. Meditation helps me quiet my mind... perhaps unfollowing does the same. In any case, less chatter is always better. - Yanik Falardeau

RetiredTeacher: heheh. But, sorry, the main reason I did the unfollow isn't the home feed, but DM's. They just became more and more filled with spam and useless stuff. Getting my home feed back is like icing on a cake. - Robert Scoble

@Robert, There's no right or wrong answer to social media usage. Only you can decide your goals and if you're successful in achieving those goals, that's all there is to it. You're anything but clueless, not that you need me to tell you that :) - MiaD

I was a big critic of your Swisher/Mossberg article as I think you are misguided about where in the social chain FF falls-- HOWEVER... although I had a FF account for awhile doesnt mean I 'tried' it. In light of the non conversational approach twitter is taking ( @replies) and the fact its getting spammy and many people are talking AT me not WITH me I concede. I don't agree with some of your tactics or selling points but I do agree FF IS ABSOLUTELY on to something in a big way. - cheapsuits

Auto following everyone is not good idea... - k00pa

ROFLCOPTER! - k00pa

IMO. Your following deletion was good thing :) - k00pa

I just use Twitter differently than most. Regardless whether I "follow" you or not, I still follow millions of people because I mostly use search for getting what I want. - Jesse Stay

you did an experiment. you learned something. take the learning and move on. economic theorists are doing the same thing:-) maybe spammers were Twitter's Black Swan. - Francine Hardaway from BuddyFeed

Let's assume for a moment that you are, indeed, clueless. Since you follow the same methodologies as most other "social media experts", then they, themselves, are clueless, as well. Since most "experts" (like yourself, Pirillo, and Conn) are generally smart people, then all clueless people are geniuses. Therefor, you are a genius and are, beyond a shadow of a doubt, not clueless. - Thomas Ward

Thomas: I like your thinking! :-) - Robert Scoble

So Ashton Kutcher can have 3+ Million followers and only follows a few, so why can't you filter the noise too? Double standard... - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Robert: Glad you liked it. Hell, I'm glad you understood it! Even I began to believe I was only rambling! - Thomas Ward

would you please change your green #Twavatar ? .. my baby cries .. Thx :) - Marcel Bloingo

My favorite thing about you is that you do your own thing. Go with your gut. - Ted Murphy

Marcel: that will also cost you $20. This is how I will monetize social media! :-) - Robert Scoble

Ted: In this case his "own thing" is what many of us have been telling him he should be doing for months now ;-) - Ken Sheppardson

OneGear: my heart was in the right place. I was doing that so everyone could DM me. Of course that let in spammers and other bad actors. So, turns out you are right. - Robert Scoble

Chris: we're all doing it wrong. :-) - Robert Scoble

I think you did it right: the conversation is going again and everyone is thinking about things. Job done. - WoH: Minding her Steves

Forget about them, Rob. Heck, I may even follow in your footsteps! Seems like all I'm getting anymore is links to products I don't want or sites I have no interest in visiting. Oh ... as far as the green avatar goes, you should have it say "Scoble Smash!" underneath you! - Thomas Ward

I miss the Robert Scoble with long thoughtful blog posts and video interviews. I understand that it is not easy to find the balance between the conversations/interactions thingy and the content thingy. - Edwin Khodabakchian

Edwin: I've been posting a LOT of video. But, yeah, need to get back to doing long blogs. - Robert Scoble

I'll give you that $20 for your lists! *giggle* - Arleen Boyd

We should remember Twitter is Sociability. - Felipe Aneudi Campana from fftogo

Hmm. Do you post all your videos on your blog? different content on blog, building43, somewhere else? I liked the Office 10 videos. - Edwin Khodabakchian

you were telling people that they didn't "get it" for doing exactly what you are doing now - Eber Irigoyen

Edwin: I post them all here. Pro videos at http://www.building43.com Videos shot with my Canon 5D on http://scobleizer.blip.tv Finally, live videos at http://www.kyte.tv/scobleizer -- but they all are aggregated here. - Robert Scoble

lame, wrong, and awesome. Keep it up! - motownmutt

Eber: yes, I told Loic that. Again, my heart was in the right place. I wanted to get DM's from everyone who wanted to follow me. Turned out that was a bad strategy because of spammers. So I was wrong. I'm often wrong. Keep that in mind when I tell you off. :-) - Robert Scoble

Twitter is the one doing it wrong. They should just read our minds and learn what information we need and publish it to our home page. No need to follow anyone in that case. - Sumanth Kolar

dont worry Sumanth, google will take care of that ;) - Kashif Khan

There could come a time when I reverse strategy, in six months, as you did, and you can mock me then. But right now, I am keeping the door open to new contacts and not wiping them away. FriendFeed is my high quality network. - Louis Gray

Thanks Robert! It just occurred to me one alternative to domain squatting is embarrassing Avatar adoption. Your $20-at-a-time strategy is more credible than most monetization schemes (scams?) - Richard Walker

It would seem to me you did it "right" as it brought a strategic challenge to light. It's been the source of some great posts and conversation. It's not as though things are unsalvagable even if you made a miscalculation. As a strategist I don't think there is a generic right or wrong way. You have to align your social media activity to meet your goals. If your approach on Twitter wasn't working to meet your goals then you did the right thing. - Jim Goldstein

There is no wrong way to use a resource that is infinitely customizable. Well, perhaps there are illegal or immoral ways, and thus "wrong." But not the case here. - Justin Long

I've seen everywhere (it seems) that social media is all about the user's experience, that they should determine what's best for themselves. Yet, I constantly see posts and threads about how to do it right. I don't care what Robert is doing, because he has other reasons for using it than I do, and on down the line. Too much of social media "time" is spent discussing social media. - Steve Lowe

One question, Robert: What would you guess is your reach in terms of unique users? (if you combine all the channels you are on?) - Edwin Khodabakchian

Do your thing man. You know leaders are always jeered before they are applauded -- don't wait for the applause <grin> - Pam Baker

Very much in agreement with what Steve Lowe just argued. - Marcos

" Too much of social media "time" is spent discussing social media. - Steve Lowe " SOOO TRUE!!! - cheapsuits

Robert I agree. The lists feature is one of the most valued. - Drew Lucas from iPhone

Robert, "right" or "wrong" is immaterial here. Each user gets something different out of their use of social media. So each user constantly adjusts their social media experience to fit what they want to receive. Your mass unfollowing is not wrong. Your user paradigm changed. - Jack Wilson, K4SAC

Robert: can you write a blog post about how you setup your groups in friendfeed? I this it would make for an interesting read. - BRҰANSAҰS

When you were using auto-follow, it made the most sense to do so. Twitter changed, you examined what was working and what wasn't working, and made some adjustments. You are still doing it right. You also invested your time in FriendFeed pretty early on. That was also a good decision. (That will be $25, thank you.) - Mark Davidson from BuddyFeed

I'm not of that mindset, if all adopted that mindset and only followed very close knowns what would you have? A phone call - JuneM

Tinym: He used one of the premium services on SocialToo.com You have the ability to either Unfollow everyone that isn't following you back or you can unfollow everyone. - BRҰANSAҰS

i dont really understand their argument...i had to mass unfollow some people as well, as I was getting spam and it was clogging up the stream. - Crackle

I just joined FF today due to a few factors: 1) Twitter went down and a light bulb went off 2) I've been following you for quite awhile and you're not lame nor do I think you're doing it wrong and 3) I finally acted upon all the advice you've shared about FF. If you follow me back, fine. At any rate, I'm following you here. I do like the threaded message form, which trumps any Twitter app. I'm also looking for value, not noise. - MR

It just signified your preference to communicate with high numbers on FriendFeed where everyone can be organized, searched and found- it is thus more meaningful. On Twitter it was chaos for you that way and everyone lost. Why lie? - E-Advocate Network

MR:Welcome to FriendFeed. - BRҰANSAҰS

I thought you should've done it sooner. - Ben Parr

agree w/ Ben - michael sean wright

LOL. Just a theological point: God's following everyone (or not) is not a theological explanation for why bad things happen to good people. But I'm guessing you're speaking tongue-in-cheek? - Justin Long

Change is natural. It's part of innovation. We adjust to new tools and technologies as they evolve, and because our methods of using them change, the tools evolve. Sometimes they (or us) take even a bigger leap and revolutionize. Then we get the next big thing, or take the next significant step in history. It's far better that you adapted, Robert, based on your findings, needs and experiences, than continued on with previous use patterns. - Cathryn Hrudicka

People are haters. Ignore the idiots. - Nile Flores

I second Nile even when I disagree with you Robert! (((pu liki))) spreading Aloha! - Arleen Boyd

Svartling

Ffollo - Automatically follow who you need to on FriendFeed - Looks useful! - http://www.ffollo.com/

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"Find and Follow people with similar interests to you - automatically, for FREE" - Svartling from Bookmarklet

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N1, thanks for the info, will give it a try for sure :) - Patrik Arwengrim

Still early stage, I am still ironing out issues. - Paul Kinlan

there are some people who has problems with it. there must be an option : undo all things ffollo has done - Ahmet Soyata

Oh good point Ahmet. Will see if I would need it soon hehe. - Patrik Arwengrim

As Paul said, It is still in early stage. Can be really great! - Svartling

You can place all follows into a custom list so that you don't see it in your home feed, you can then pick and choose everything you like most - Paul Kinlan

That was a great idea Paul. - Svartling

Yes, I need to think of how to throttle it, at the moment each follow is seperated by at least a minimum of 20 seconds, - Paul Kinlan

Paul that is what I did. put the new followers in there own list and check them out there. then move over to the home feed. enjoying finding the new peeps! - (jeff)isageek

And down the hell hole we all go... Not me. I've seen how this movie ends up. Full of spam. Full of idiots. Full of noise. Full of bots. - Robert Scoble

I don't need a bunch of me's trying to one up me - Outsanity

Please make a service that would remove from friends, those who have not added you to friends. - altblog

Robert: for sure, but I am trying to do it differently to the way I did twollo so that it is only following people in your conversations.... you yourself said that you would follow anyone who comments on your posts. - Paul Kinlan

This is very neat. Unlike the Twitter version, sorting out your rhizome of subscribers into Lists, from where they found you, will be interesting to watch. Visualisation of this would be brilliant. - zeroinfluencer

It's cool. - ★ Soner Gönül

altblog, that's a good idea. I also like the idea of a throttle. - Kol Tregaskes

I'd also like to select the amount of likes and comments too. Say if someone comments or likes something on my lists or I posted then auto-follow. - Kol Tregaskes

altblog: I am loathe to create an auto-unfollow I held off on twollo.com and will probably not do it for ffollo - it encourages very spammy behaviour - Paul Kinlan

Kol: I am looking into how to do the "the this user must like two of my items"... it is not too hard though - Paul Kinlan

Shame about that. I'd need checks on this service, like whether they are posting anything natively themselves. I'm not interested if users simply have a stream of their Twitters on FF, for example. - Kol Tregaskes

I'd prefer, however, a recommendation page, where it takes the options selected and simply lists users that meet the criteria. It could be sorted in most compatible order with 'subscribe' buttons. - Kol Tregaskes

Kol: I would agree, but the basic options only pick up people who are actively using Friendfeed, so a basic setting would be only follow people who like my stuff, or comment on my stuff - Paul Kinlan

Kol: my suggested usage would be to follow people but automatically put them in a dedicated list that is not your home feed that way you can follow people but only move people into your home feed if they meet your needs. - Paul Kinlan

OK, Paul. I'll test it and see but I'm not generally keen on auto-follow services. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Paul, just a small request but not important - I'd like to select a friends list for each of the 4 options at the top. I'd like to have one list for people who like my stuff, one for who comments, etc. Just to test more than anything. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Paul, I am just signed in, will give it a try. - Jacque

I mean no disrespect towards FFollo, but can this thread please be removed before all of FriendFeed starts dabbling in an app that's not ready for prime time yet? I'm sure there's plenty of beta users by now. - Brad Williamson

One annoyance with adding them to a separate list and managing them is that it's not easy to check their feeds on the friends list. If FriendFeed amended the friends list add/remove page so that we can view their feeds directly from there then it would help a lot. - Kol Tregaskes

I could make friends list for each of the options (wanted it simple to start with ;) - Paul Kinlan

Hi Brad: sure I can see the point. There is also a group http://friendfeed.com/ffollo for anyone who would like to continue the conversation there. But this thread does contain a lot of good information and which I like to respond too. - Paul Kinlan

No problem, Paul. Just a suggestion ;-) I have one question though... Say you auto-follow someone, realize they're someone you don't have any interest in and then delete them. Will FFollo then go right back and add them again after you've deleted them? - Brad Williamson

Brad: like twollo.com I record every follow that occurs and you should never re-follow the user. - Paul Kinlan

@Paul Cool, cool ;-) - Brad Williamson

The problem I have to work out is that on twollo the follow list for all the users is 125GB - Paul Kinlan

太imba了。。。 - kang

Kol: you can now select which list you want each type of follow to go into individually - Paul Kinlan

Cool, ta Paul. :-) - Kol Tregaskes

Great, Paul! - Svartling

Long overdue. Thanks Paul! - Michael Fidler

super useful.. - Can Koklu

done, signed up, thanks #shankargallery - Richard Lazzara

AJ Batac :)

When I say AIRWOLF, do you hear the soundtrack playing in your head? How about MacGyver?

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Yes for Airwolf! And The A-Team, too! - April Buchheit from iPhone

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No to MacGyver. - Scoble, Alex Scoble

All the above. Add Blue Thunder, and most of the old sitcoms to the list (Leave it to Beaver, Ozzie and Harriet, etc) - Andy Glover

Oh I totally forgot Blue Thunder already! - AJ Batac :)

don't hear the theme, but i do hear the Airwolf whine/howl sound they used for the helicopter. For MacGyver, I always hear the last bit of the theme - Imabug

It's currently set as my ringtone! http://www.phonezoo.com/Rington... - Andrew Smith

Abby, it's not the food. He did play cello on the dock in several episodes, Sometimes, at the beginning of an episode you'd see him out there and they'd call him in to fly off, or when it'd been a "hard" mission and he needed to "unwind" he'd be out there at the end of the episode talking to Dom - Andy Glover

Scoble, Alex Scoble

"If you want the position of god then accept the responsibility"

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ok ;O) - Rob Sellen :o)

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That's either "You Lot", by Orbital, or Stephen Baxter from the movie, "The Second Coming" - Jesse Stay

Damn, you are good, Jesse :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM

There is no point in being the supreme master if you can't delegate and play golf. - Gilbert Harding

http://www.amazon.com/s... - Jesse Stay

I need to buy more Orbital now - Jesse Stay

Yeah, I listened to the song on my way in to work this morning. :) Which lead to this thread. - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM

I thought it was a cult job board :) - Richard Walker

What's the salary? - Nikos Anagnostou

God makes it's own money, food, water, consumer electronics, etc. :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble from IM

I used to have that entire speech posted online somewhere - Nine

"With great power comes great responsibility"? :) - Jemm

sean808080

Wonders how many people here are without health insurance and if so, would you welcome a government option? Seems like a no-brainer but...

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but what ? - Otir

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So many people are getting airtime and speaking as if everyone has coverage and how this health care debate is the worst thing that could possibly happen. - sean808080

A lot of people speak without knowing what it is like to live in the US without coverage. I don't have coverage and honestly I don't understand very much to the debate. Everyone should be covered, health should *not* be a product but a right. - Otir

Much of the debate I hear doesn't center around whether it is a needed thing or not, but around who gets to choose for you and who ultimately pays. It is almost to the "Not in my backyard" level of depate where we can all agree it should happen but nobody wants to make the decision lest they be the fall guy if something breaks. - Andy Glover

I don't see many people without insurance objecting to the public option. I haven't had insurance for several years, and I would be happy to have a public plan if one were available. - John (bird whisperer)

I have insurance but the coverage is crappy plus it's tied to my husband's newspaper industry job: if he looses his job we lose our coverage. Odds are good I would participate in a public plan if one were available - FFing Enigma

we have an option in SF to get healthcare if you earn a low enough amount. My two friends have been without healthcare for years, and they qualify. But aren't signing up. I'm kind of wondering what it willt ake. - anna sauce

Anna, there's an option like that in WA state, too, but it has a long waiting list to get onto the program. - Rochelle

yes, and maybe. i'd have to see what the "fine print" says. - Justin Long

Iphigenie

The Four-Day Work Week Works - http://www.worldchanging.com/archive...

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by Pete Davies Utah’s experiment shows happier employees and environmental benefits 17,000 Utah state employees have been working four-day weeks since last August. Non-critical government and agency staff have worked ten-hour days Monday-Thursday and then taken three-day weekends. Some of the first findings from the experiment are in: Nine months in, the state had saved $1.8 million on energy and cleaning bills (the savings are likely to be even higher over the summer as the air conditioning isn’t needed on Fridays). 82% of state employees say they prefer the hours. Employees also report feeling healthier, showing “decreased health complaints, less stress and [taking] fewer sick days”. Significant environmental benefits include energy savings from the buildings being closed, fewer emissions from employee commutes and congestion relief because of fewer people traveling in rush-hour all week. Users of government services have access outside the standard 9-5 times. They can no longer go... - Iphigenie

Steven Perez

8 Tools to Prep for the Apocalypse | The Best Article Every day - http://www.bspcn.com/2009...

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"For millions of Americans living along the Gulf and Atlantic coastlines, hurricane season is an annual call to arms, a six-month stretch from June through November spent watching the skies and the local news for signs of trouble. Other regions cope with the threat of wildfires, quakes and tornadoes-and blackouts can strike anywhere. While no season is safe from disruption, late summer seems particularly inviting to the demons of disaster. Here’s a step-by-step guide to preparing your home and family." - Steven Perez from Bookmarklet

Loren Heiny

Post surgery and with 20-20 hindsight, I'm finding it fascinating to think back over the last many months and look for the clues that I actually had a tumor in my brain (left frontal lobe). Here are some of them:

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1. The first thing I noticed was at times I'd use the wrong word for something--in particular nouns. For instance, I'd call a "hat" a "helmet" or the trunk of a car the "back yard." This didn't happen all the time. We figured it was an odd permutation of chemo brain. - Loren Heiny

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2. Short term memory wasn't up to par. Again, this is a common chemo brain problem. If you gave me more than three numbers--like for a phone number--forget it, I'd probably not be able to repeat them. I also had lots of trouble remembering to do things. My iPhone started becoming essential to me. I took pictures, wrote notes, used the calender, set up alarms to remind me of things. This came and went in terms of how significant it was. - Loren Heiny

3. Concentration was getting shorter and shorter. Some said I was getting older, some said it was courtesy of medications and chemo. As a developer, this was probably the most frustrating issue to me. By the time of surgery, my ability to focus on doing something was probably down to 5 minutes. It was a rapid drop off though. Before that it was just something I noticed as being different than it was. - Loren Heiny

4. About two weeks before the tumor was discovered, I was really having a lot of trouble answering questions. If someone asked me, "What did you do today?" I could start answering, then it's like I could hear myself in my head mention what I should say next--often just a bunch of filler words that didn't say anything, and then poof whatever I was going to say wouldn't come out. As a result, my answer became more and more "I don't know" or "I can't remember." This is when we knew it was time to call the Drs. - Loren Heiny

5. I'd picked up an occassional limp (maybe 1 or 2 times a week in the afternoons) in my right leg that came and went. I thought it was a result of my surgery on my right leg--it's quite uncomfortable though getting better. I had a limp early after my right leg was operated on so the return of the limp I figured was just part of the ups and downs of recovering. The limp started a couple weeks before surgery. - Loren Heiny

6. Occassional headaches. Again these appeared about a week or week and a half before I actually got into see the doctor. They were one of the last new symptoms. They were mild headaches that maybe started in the morning or late afternoon and lasted maybe an hour or so though two days before I got into see the doctor it lasted all day and the next two days there was no headache at all. - Loren Heiny

7. When I'd wake up in the morning my right ear would feel like it was under pressure--you know that allergy kind of feeling. That's what I thought it was. It wasn't. It was the tumor pushing my brain against my ear. - Loren Heiny

Anyway, there were some other symptoms, but back to the language issue for a second. Just to illustrate its affects. On the day the medical staff realized I needed an MRI they asked me what was going on, they wanted to know everything I could think of. I gave them first one of my stock answers at the time, which I find curious now because today I never would use it, since it really... more... - Loren Heiny

Wow fascinating how are you doing now? - SteVe C

8. Oh, I forgot: Over the last year or so--particularly at industry events--I realized I wasn't very good at making a point that might require let's say more than a paragraph or too. Let's say in my head I'd plan to make three points about something. I'd start talking and all might be fine for the first couple of points and then I'd realize I have no idea what else I was supposed to... more... - Loren Heiny

Are there any side effects that linger? Our brains are weird things. Good stuff to know and look out for. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

It's much, much better than it was before. I realize now how much better I am, for instance, just by what words I use to describe what happened. Now I can use precise words, before I used general words like "confused." However, when I'm really tired or if I stress myself by trying to do/or react to something real fast, a wrong word might pop out or I might stutter a bit, but other than that it's like night and day. It's simply amazing. It's like my brain is ten years younger :-). - Loren Heiny

Thank you for that insight. - Eric

Glad you survived. Both of my parents are tumor survivors too - LANjackal

Thank you so much for sharing this! - Jannifer @wordsforliving

I am also realizing now that I don't do well with filling out forms, no matter how simple they are--especially if it's something that's important and not routine. I think it has to do with the "planning" involved. Not sure. I've had this problem for the last year or so, but now I'm realizing it's still with me. I'm guessing it's because I can't balance in my head all the repercussions... more... - Loren Heiny

Shevonne

51 Conspiracy Theories That Don't Exist But Should - http://www.wired.com/geekdad...

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"San Diego Comic Con is only the cover for an annual Illuminati meeting, where the world’s real money is divided up. The Illuminati are disguised as the booth babes." - Shevonne from Bookmarklet

Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

25 Various Styles of The Wizard of Oz Illustrations http://thedesigninspiration.com/article...

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I love these. The others on the site are just as good. - Andy Glover

my faves are graham rawle's photos: http://ff.im/5UqN7 - Trent Olson

Leo Laporte

RT @jayrosen_nyu "I keep my following list to 600... a kick-ass network for journalism and new media." Just followed them all! Thanks, Jay!

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FFing Enigma

Found this shirt at Goodwill yesterday. They're right, you won't understand it.

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MoonPie + RC = a many decades long tradition. I'll let you in on a li'l secret though: I don't particularly like MoonPies. People here blame it on the fact that my parents grew up in Detroit ;-) - FFing Enigma

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I've never had a MoonPie. Not the biggest fan of marshmallow. - Akiva

I never have had one either. - Yolanda

I don't think I've had either. - John (bird whisperer)

Hates marshmallow and would only eat the cookie parts, and even then: Meh. --> - Derrick

my mom loved MoonPies and RC; not necessarily at the same time. - jbrotherlove

I don't mind a few 'raw' marshmallows but I don't like them cooked or in things. - Akiva

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm. - Daniel J. Pritchett from iPhone

I don't get how folks can eat marshmallows right out of the bag. Squicks me out. - Yolanda

The dusty, matte exterior is the best part. There's just something really pleasing about that texture. The internal gooey bit isn't nearly as good but I'll suffer it for that initial touch. - Akiva

We had moon pies at our swimming pool when I was a kid. Always had enough money to buy a moon pie for afternoon snack, also most likely reason I had to go to the chubby section for school clothing. - Janet-The Bottley Crue

a moonpie store opened in charleston a few weeks ago. stopped in there for the first time a couple of days ago. didn't get to try a moonpie, but they did have a cool looking soda/ice cream counter. - Imabug

I have consumed many of both in my youth. - Brent - Yes I am

Oh, I understand it. It's still gross. - Steven Perez

You're absolutely right. I don't really drink soda and don't eat many sweets. Consequently...I need one of those with a pic of a latte and a cigarette. lol - Christian (Simply X)

A MoonPie, heated for 20 seconds in a microwave with two scoops of homemade vanilla ice cream on top and a cold RC cola ( or Diet Rite if that's too much sugar) THAT'S a wonderful memory and makes me hungry. BTW, I have Mini MoonPies in the pantry right now :) - Andy Glover

LOVE the combo... and the proper pronunciation is "Moom-pie and AR-cie coluh" - MoTO Bott

http://news.yahoo.com/s... That's one small snack for man... - Karim

Karim, that's one GIGANTIC moonpie! - FFing Enigma

tina - you grew up in detroit? wow. that explains a lot. (i tease because i love) - Morgan

No dear, I grew up in SC. My parents both lived in Detroit until they were teenagers, and then both their families moved to TN (which is where they met). - FFing Enigma

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This is about how I feel today. - http://tebe-interesno.livejournal.com/132020...

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TGIF DAMMIT - Akiva

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Poor AT-AT is going to get SUCH a burn! - caj needs a haircut

Very good! Made me chuckle............... - Kevin J Hatton

LOL IRL - rowlikeagirl

gonna need to hit that 2nd cup of coffee pretty soon - Nathan Chase

sometimes a day resting on the sand is what we really need. - Morgan

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Nixie Tubes: Like Pixy Stix with caffeine - http://www.crunchgear.com/2009...

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"While Pixy Stix may have gotten you all hopped up as a child, you’ll need something a bit stronger in your adult years. Enter Nixie Tubes — basically grown-up Pixy Stix laced with 100mg of caffeine." - Shevonne from Bookmarklet

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I coulda so used one of those yesterday. :) - Jandy

I just had a Pixy Stix today! I snuck one from the goody bag items - Shevonne

are these for real???? DUDE! Sign me UP! - Morgan

Oh great, now kids can get both a sugar and caffeine high. - Wizetux

what happens if I snort one? - Morgan

@Morgan You know there is going to be that one person who tries that, so when he/she does, we'll ask ;) - Shevonne

wow! - Mitchell Tsai

if i post a pic of me with pink sugar boogers, then you will know who jumped first! :-) - Morgan

haha - Shevonne

Where do I get them? - Michael Fidler from iPhone

http://www.thinkgeek.com/caffein... - Shevonne

...this may be the perfect food... - Heather

I don't know if the name re-use makes sense to me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Andrew C (✓)

FFing Enigma

I'm confused: why is it FFers complain about strangers, "rude new comers" noise, etc etc etc but will then turn around and talk about how FF growth is flat? Call me crazy, but you can't have growth without newbies folks.

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We were all newbies once. - Steve Lowe

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some of us still are. - Mike Nencetti

I'm not sure those are the same complainers. - Jandy

Complaining for some is their normal interaction with the world. When we all started using social media tools, we were all aggravating to a degree. Need to lay off the newbies a bit, unless they are going down the path of relentless marketing and get rich quick posts, then it is smackdown time! ;-) - Eban Crawford

I think my example this week with VerothicA from deviantART is a good one. I could have easily blocked the user and thrown abuse back but I don't see that as being healthy for me, for the other user and for the community. - Kol Tregaskes

I thought it was the old timers who were annoying. :-) - Robert Scoble

I'm passionate about new users as the services needs them to grow and feel that FF doesn't support them very well, e.g. no proper tutorial upon completing registration and the issue with the suggested users list. It's one reason why I've created the FF-Beginners group here: http://friendfeed.com/friendf... and why I check for new users (as best I can) daily and welcome them aboard. - Kol Tregaskes

Scoble, is that you trying to instigate a "Get off my lawn!" moment? ;-) I definitely try to welcome the new users I come across and answer any questions as best I can. And yes, I've run into people who make me want to bash my head in with a ball peen hammer in the process (both new and old), but I handle them the same way I do in real life: polite interactions only when necessary. - FFing Enigma

You mean kind of like how the flood of AOL newbies helped grow the Internet back when? But please let's not restart to old game of duping them in to posting "me too" like back in the alt.news days. ;) - Michael Leonard

Darren, my first month on FF was no fun at all. I followed maybe 30 people, no one was following me, and I got my main feed in my feed reader. The result? No interaction on the items I posted, I didn't interact on items other people posted, and the posts that DID get interaction drove me nuts by reappearing all the time in my feed reader. Once I threw my hands up and decided to just hang out here and have fun with it, my experience completely changed.. - FFing Enigma

It definitely takes time to understand how Friendfeed works. I was lucky when I joined in that a few people subscribed right away, so I got to see some interaction in progress from the start. Even so it took a few weeks to really learn the system. - John (bird whisperer)

I think starting on FF can be hard, people don't follow you automatically when you follow them as many do on Twitter, if you don't have a decent feed no one subscribes to you but it is unlikely you will have the motivation to have a decent feed with no audience. On Twitter you will be followed mostly by bots and people that will never read your tweets but your followers count increases... more... - M F

I think a new user tutorial should include an live interactive post and comment part at the end, with something generic like "Hi just joined FriendFeed" in the title. Then us old users could choose to have a saved search that seeks out these posts and welcomes the new user? - Kol Tregaskes

I don't know, Kol, that almost seems kind of forced. With the system as it is now, I as a new user would probably find good people to follow by search. If there's an interactive signup tutorial, perhaps it'd be worthwhile to have a part where you enter three words or phrases that you're interested in. Me, I'd pick 'hilarious', science, and a specific turn of phrase. Use those words and setup custom searches in the tutorial, and you have a ready-made list of people with interests similar to your own. - FFing Enigma

I will make people mad but... SOME early adopters get BIG on a site when its just early adopters there... then Mainstreamers get involved... and they wanna see kitties and boobs and not talk about bandwidth and apps and unique visitors! But there is way more of them and the numbers are moved off the Techie Early adopters and it goes to a Kardashian... This pisses off SOME early adopters and they bitch about the newbies. Then they move to a new product. Cycle of life! (My uneducated thoughts!) - Cody Heitschmidt

You have a point, Cody, but I really do think FF offers features that can prevent that. 1) Only subscribe to people when you want to see the MAJORITY their content. 2) Hide imported services you don't want to see. 3) Use saved searches to find content of interest to you based on keywords rather than poster. I post a lot of useless crap so I don't expect certain people to follow me.... more... - FFing Enigma

I completely agree with you FF Kicks a huge pile of ass. i love it. i was just trying to give my opinion on why early adopters (again just SOME of them) bitch about newbies. Early Adopters are famous in the Early to Kinda early adopter crowd, but 75% of the world never heard of Robert Scoble (maybe more) (I use Scoble as an example cause I don't consider him a whiny early adopter, the... more... - Cody Heitschmidt

"Kicks a huge pile of ass" is now one of my favorite phrases =D - FFing Enigma

I am not 100% but I think I actually made it up myself, could be lying to myself to steal all the glory, but i don't think so. - Cody Heitschmidt

Susan Scrupski

RT@20Adoption: 2.0 Adoption tip of the week: Create a tagline in your email signature to encourage adoption. Ex. "I'm in C3. Are you?" ...

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Argh! I tried to figure out what mine would say and it came out something like this: "I'm on my team's Sharepoint site. Your team doesn't have one and you aren't authorized to view mine. Have a nice day!" - Daniel J. Pritchett

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This makes a good point for me to press in-house though: Viral adoption of Sharepoint is not possible when teams have disconnected silos and no one has access to the other silos. - Daniel J. Pritchett

Un-share point-less? :-) - Susan Scrupski

I'm resharing this to the #e2adoption LinkedIn group - until we get some centralized micromessaging going on we'll lose these tasty bites of conversation. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

I've been experimenting with socialcast... do you want to try it? it's pretty cool. better than Yammer, imo. Also, let's put this note from Steve Radick in the thread too. http://twitter.com/sradick... - Susan Scrupski

Done. I'd be happy to help with socialcast testing. Can you give me an account on a 2-person E2adoption community or should I start my own trial sandbox? - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

They too are using the Yammer/Signals model of "your email domain determines your community access". Yet another sign that we oughta get some member emails created. I know you said you'd bought a domain and that you were testing Google Apps but I never figured out whether or not those were related stories. - Daniel J. Pritchett

I've got a glimmer of an idea on how to push this argument and I'm going to use endless corporate restructuring as the foundation: "How long has your current team existed? Does it have its own knowledge silo? What is to be done with this silo when the team ramps down and is eventually decommissioned? What will you do with your silo if the team is split up or absorbed by another team?" I feel like "stop making KM silos" is the obvious answer, but maybe I'm prejudiced. - Daniel J. Pritchett from IM

Sorry Dan for not responding here... I was running around down town- lunch, etc. Socialcast is generously giving us a private instance. Email invite is on its way... - Susan Scrupski

Steven Perez

QUESTION: Putting aside your personal feelings about movie remakes, what movie is ripe for a remake?

July 9, 2009 from IM - Comment - Like - Share

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I'd say FORBIDDEN PLANET. - Steven Perez from IM

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Plan 9 From Outer Space!!!! Directed by Uwe Boll!!! - Rui Pereira

When Worlds Collide (just in time for 2012 too) - Andy Glover

Quite a few: Destination Moon, most of the Hitchcock oeuvre, Metropolis, Logan's Run, Zardoz (hey, it can't be *worse*, right?). - Michael R. Bernstein

Reefer Madness. - John (bird whisperer)

ZARDOZ: starring Shia Labouf and Megan Fox, directed by Michael Bay. Yeah, it can be worse. :D - Steven Perez from IM

Gone With The Wind (rap version) - Gary Burge

I don't think Logan's Run can be done well. They'd end up making the reason everyone went to the massive cities "climate change" and the only way to "save" the planet was to kill off the old people to "balance" the ecology. It's not a remake, but I'd love a serious movie on any of the Issac Asimov Baily or Foundation series novels - Andy Glover

Touch of Evil. - The original Kevin

I'm not sure that you could properly remake Hitchcock. - Steven Perez from IM

"The Quiet Earth", A Peter Jackson Film starring Andy Serkis as Zac Hobson (role originated by Bruno Lawrence) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Joe The Sausage

TOO SOON, HAGGIS. :D - Steven Perez from IM

Rebel Without a Cause. That could be interesting with the right script/update - Andy Glover

12 Angry Men actually did have a remake, and it wasn't horrible. It wasn't quite as good as the original to me, but technically there isn't anything wrong with it. Plus it has Tony Danza! - Joe "Brrzzzzzzt" Pierce

As far as remakes go I'd say Food of the Gods could do well with a remake if done properly. - Joe "Brrzzzzzzt" Pierce

Bullitt. - Rene, Pro Button Pusher

Transformers...by a competent director and writer. - Scoble, Alex Scoble

Or the Lord Of The Rings trilogy, but then shortening it and make the ending less gay :P - Rene, Pro Button Pusher

LOL @Rene ... "Oh Sam." "Oh Mister Frodo!"... "Oh lord." - Bryan Zirkel

@Bryan: I am still waiting for the gay pr0n version of that movie *LOL* - Rene, Pro Button Pusher

20,000 Leagues Under The Sea - Alex Scrivener

I'd quite like "Intolerable Cruelty" remade with two actors who actually have chemistry with each other, but that may just be me. - Deborah Fitchett

Super Mario Bros... we need an update from the Bob Hoskins version. :) - Bryan Zirkel

The Good Earth - Michael R. Bernstein

I, Robot. Because that was just a travesty. - caj needs a haircut

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I try to put on a happy face ... I fail - http://icanhascheezburger.file...

July 9, 2009 - Comment - Like - Share

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Hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

aww those poor things are not very comfy out of water.. - David Gross

Very true, hehe. - Kol Tregaskes

Bill Romanos

Design Thinking as distinct from Analytical Thinking [MIT; Management; Innovation] - http://sloanreview.mit.edu/special...

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"Design thinking — distinct from analytical thinking — has emerged as the premier organizational path not only to breakthrough innovation but, surprisingly, to high-performance collaboration, as well. “It’s not about the pretty,” says one design-thinking practitioner, “it’s about the productive.” In this special section of articles, interviews, illustrated cases and research findings, the Review explores how to put design thinking to work." - Bill Romanos from Bookmarklet

Kol Tregaskes

Canyon Passage by johopo (John).

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Pinata’s Revenge - http://fashionablygeek.com/t-shirt...

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Lesson learned: Post something political, and I might get a few comments. Post a photo showing blatant political stupidity, and I get into a long conversation with lots of digressions. Solution: MORE PHOTOS!

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Maybe some people only like the books with pictures in? - Jennifer Dittrich

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Hmmm, comic books ... hey, I can post pages from TRANSMETROPOLITAN! Political AND comic books! WIN! - Steven Perez

Friendfeed is like a box of chocolates sometimes, you never know whatchu gon get ... - Rene, Pro Button Pusher

doesn't physics tell us that crazy things attract? ;-) - Karim

Yeah, it's always fascinating to see where these conversations go and how far they digress away from the original point. I've always held that anyone who feels the need to digress significantly has no argument to begin with. - Steven Perez

See if you can get abortion and Margaret Sanger into the discussion! - Victor Ganata

Damn, Victor. I'm not trying to compete with Robert Scoble! :D - Steven Perez

Steven, shouldn't that be, "I'm not trying to compete with Robert Scoble! Here's why:" ;-) - Karim

Agitated things, at the least ;) - Michael W. May

Karim +1 - Andrew C (✓)

Ask and ye shall receive, Karim: http://friendfeed.com/silas21... - Steven Perez

More Pictures=less words=lowered effort required to "think" about a topic=How we got to where we are as a society today :) - Andy Glover

Reading is soooo overrated. - Mark Dodson

Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど

Son

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Day Three Begins - http://audioboo.fm/boos...

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great stuff leo. really enjoying the boos. already subscribed to both you and Don and listening on iPhone. - kent williams

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Yes I agree, the audioboos are really cool, same with all the photos... - Bryce Campbell from iPhone

Wow you have been booing like crazy! lol Thank you Leo for promoting this, it's really awesome, made my first audioboo today, loving the simplicity and fun. - The Tech Canuck

I like this way of listening to your trip. I just downloaded the app, but I doubt my boos will be as interesting, since I'm not climbing the great wall of anything or anywhere. - Francine Hardaway

Walt Gilbert

Tom Mabe funny phone call - http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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