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Derrick
Holly B’s Peanut Butter Brownies - http://danatreat.com/2009...
Holly B’s Peanut Butter Brownies
"Brownies, in this chocolate lover’s opinion, should be chocolate. Not only should they be chocolate but they should be all chocolate with no nuts. Then why am I crazy for this peanut butter brownie? I don’t know. There is plenty of chocolate here and if you take yours out of the oven a little too early, as I did, you might think you are eating a gooey Reese’s peanut butter cup." - Derrick from Bookmarklet
I was awfully confused here for a second... 0_o - holly
y u always find all the good food pics online???????? - Liz
I'm a food pic whore, Liz. You know that! - Derrick
Let's eat these. - Jason Toney
with or without hash oil? - Anthony Citrano
Brian Solis
Reading: How to Skyrocket Your Career Using the Social Web by @ilanadonna http://www.socialtimes.com/2009...
Jonathan Washburn
Ginger Wilcox
Benjamin Golub
Liza
"How to do almost anything with Posterous" (would love to see them become the next Friendfeed) - http://thenextweb.com/2009... (via http://friendfeed.com/steveru...)
"How to do almost anything with Posterous" (would love to see them become the next Friendfeed) - http://thenextweb.com/2009/08/13/posterous/ (via http://ff.im/6Brt3)
Shey, Jamaican of FF
What do you mean there's no more football??
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! - Shey, Jamaican of FF
Best. Pic. Ever. - Derrick
Hey Shey NBA!!!! - bcultral
Bob? SpongeBob? :/ - directeur
AWESOME! Oh man...I can't stop laughing. Just brilliant. - Anika
:D - Manuela
Go long! - Josh Haley
I'd respect you more, if you weren't wearing that ridiculous-looking hat. [/Bears fan] - Steven Perez
You've got arena football, and the UFL on deck....football-lite, sure, but better than nothing bruh! - .LAG liked that
HEROS IS BACK BITCHES!!!!!!!!! - Caroline
I'm in denial and these posts don't help me any so STOP IT! :D - ♥patricia♥
Welcome to NCAA Basketball and March Madness. It consumes me. - Mike Nayyar
I don't know what you're talking about. Combines are this week, the draft is in April, and there's plenty to keep your cheesehead high about. - Pete Delucchi
If you get NFL Network on cable, they do replay games from the season every night - .LAG liked that
NOT THE SAME. - Steven Perez
I know, but it's better than nothing...especially in HD! - .LAG liked that
We had arena league season ticks but that folded. So nothing. - Todd Hoff
@Todd...oh, yeah, that's right, I forgot about arena football going on hiatus for at least one season. is nothing sacred in this economy? - .LAG liked that
Northing. We are on the border of the profane. - Todd Hoff
I agree with Steven, not the same. Sorry tho Mr Perez, GO PACKERS!! - Shey, Jamaican of FF
ROFLMAO! love this pic! - vijay
HAHAHAHAHAHA - Anna Haro
there is... :-p - Live4Emma (L4S)
Yes, sad times right now.. LOL - Sean
hahahahaha - that's brilliant :) - Zee.
best_photo_evar - Mattb4rd
Wow - orionstarr
No more Football. It is called HANDEGG by now. - Jens Christian Freund
@Mohomed.Genieyclo.Gatsby BOOOO to you and your Vikings! I can't believe they won the North. *vom* - Shey, Jamaican of FF
This is why we need a spring football league! - Nation Hahn
Hey Shey, you pinched ma hat?! - Sally Church
@Sally It's totally official, straight from Green Bay! - Shey, Jamaican of FF
I knew you were a cheeseheads - orionstarr
This has to be the best friendfeed face ever. I feel sorry for you, Shey, but hey on the bright side, Formula One is about to kick off again soon. - Alex Scoble
My husband sports that same face every year too. Epic photo Shey! :D - Carmen
lol - Kamilah Gill
Bumping for the silly hat meme. - Shey, Jamaican of FF
So awesome. - Akiva Moskovitz
And football's almost ready to start again. - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
Bumping cause there's no more football would have been good too :) - Mark Krynsky
It is almost back! My excitement is growing daily! - RAPatton from iPhone
One more month to go. - Joel Robert Perez
Haha... - Bill Heslin
Whoever bumped this reminded me that it's time for two-a-days. I hate you. :) - Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
No bumpy here. Oh well maybe...it just showed up Ha3rvey. did I do it? No...I don't have the power... :) - Bill Heslin
Not soon enough guys, not soon enough - Shey, Jamaican of FF
College ball is right around the corner and NFL won't be far behind. - Joe
HOLY CRAP IT'S ALMOST AUGUST! - Mike Nayyar
yup, just one more week. Still waiting for summer... - Shey, Jamaican of FF
hehehehehhe - johnpiercy
Shey ...TRAINING CAMPS opened today!!!! yesssssss! - .LAG liked that
Mahdi Ebrahimi
so romantic!! - saeedeh
so Lovely !! - Mahdi Ebrahimi
Daviid: where is your Shamim? - Mahdi Ebrahimi
I wish a prosper year for you and her. :) - Mahdi Ebrahimi
very cool - Jack Norris
Can I get this as a bumper sticker? - CW™
لاااااااااااااااااااااايك - Moghamer
Nicely done! - Rob Kramer
<3 - Neda
<3<3<3 To my Shamiiiiiiiiiiiiiiim :X - © D/\\/IIID ℠ ®
همون آی جاست درسته. موافقم:) - وارش
Paul Buchheit
Here's another datapoint for your prop-13 arguments. This property is selling for $1,500,000, but apparently they only pay $81.66/year in property taxes. http://www.redfin.com/CA...
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Do NOT like. This is what drives me nuts about Prop 13. :( - Karoli
Nice find. - τorƍue
That's the fault of the local Assessor's office and has nothing to do with anti-Prop 13 propaganda. Here in Los Angeles, our county Assessor's office is on top of things. Our property has been assessed twice since we move here in early '07. We didn't ask for it, they just did. We just received our most recent assessment yesterday. - Anika
Wow. I pay more than that per week! - Gabe
Anika, "Under Proposition 13, the annual real estate tax on a parcel of property is limited to 1% of its assessed value. This "assessed value," however, may only be increased by a maximum of 2% per year, until and unless the property undergoes a change in ownership. At the time of the change in ownership the low assessed value may be reassessed to full current market value which will... more... - Paul Buchheit
Yeah once they sell, boom, it'll go up. - anna sauce
Our Assessor (Seattle/King County) has other things to worry about: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html.... Interestingly enough, I actually went through the assessment appeals process a few years ago. The body that hears appeals is called the "King County Board of Equalization." So 1984. - Joe Beda
As far as I can tell this property is 100 acres of half-barren hillside (http://maps.google.com/maps...) and it's been on the market for years. Perhaps this $1.5M is just wishful thinking? - Gabe
It's sale pending, and I doubt it's selling for a whole lot less than the asking price. - Paul Buchheit
Prop 13: destroying California's public schools now for decades. - Pete Delucchi
I see someone's already posted the relevant section of Prop 13, showing that property can't be reassessed unless it's sold. Prop 13 sucks. - Karoli
We just purchased our first home for $100,000 but it's tax assessed for $180,000. I love the idea of limiting tax assess increases until a gain in value is realized. If someone can pull out equity or refinance than increasing assesment would make sense too. - Christian Burns
What really sucks is to lose your house because your property taxes keep going up and up. - Todd Hoff
Todd, that's why it would be reasonable to allow people to defer the taxes until the property transacts. That way neither houses nor revenues are lost. - Paul Buchheit
Prop 13 is a blight on California, robbing it of necessary revenue and leading once vibrant communities to rot from the inside out. Repeal Prop 13! I'll be the first to sign the petition. - AJ Kohn
Paul if I had 25 years of property tax come due when I sold my house it's likely I would have to pay money out of pocket. Sort of defeats the purpose. - Todd Hoff
@Todd: If property taxes *had* gone up during the bubble, current homeowners would have stopped the madness and values wouldn't have soared beyond sanity. - AJ Kohn
If that were so then there would have never been the motivation to pass prop 13 AJ. - Todd Hoff
81.66/year? Per week? I pay almost that much per day! Still, losing a house because of the tax increase is totally wrong. On the other hand, the idea of deferred taxes seems very reasonable to me. - ǝuǝƃnǝ
Perhaps LA County has different rules. Here, you can ask your assessor's office to do it or they can be proactive like here in LA and do it for you. We didn't ask for ours be reassessed but due to the economy, they're doing it anyway. - Anika
Anika, Napa County has also been reassessing homes purchased in the last few years in order to lower their assessments. I think Paul was saying they can't raise it beyond the legal percentage. But they can lower it. - Anne Bouey
and they wonder why we're short $11 billion - Glen Campbell, B.A.
Prop 13 has been very effective. It's taken California from #12 in the nation in per-capita student spending to #50 in only 31 years. Imagine how long it would have taken without it. - Glen Campbell, B.A.
Another thing that happens here in LA County, when someone makes modifications (renovations) to their home, they get reassessed. That doesn't happen in other counties? - Anika
Todd: Do you have any numbers to back up the "likely... have to pay money out of pocket" assertion? I don't have any to show you wouldn't... just thought I'd ask before I fire up Excel to see for myself. - Ken Sheppardson
Paul, it says that it was listed in January of 2007 for $1.5M. Are you saying that nobody thought the undeveloped property was worth buying at the height of the bubble, but 2.5 years later when housing values have gone down 30% and in the middle of a credit crunch it's suddenly worth buying? - Gabe
Anika, that does happen in other counties. I'd be surprised if it didn't happen in all counties. - Anne Bouey
@Anika, yes I've never heard of a county in CA where you don't get reassessed when making improvements to your property. - Jeff P. Henderson
The problem with Prop-13 is that it creates a disincentive to alienate property. On the other hand, the fact that these people are only paying $81.66/year is downright magical. I am happy for them that they are not being robbed by the government more than $81.66 annually. There should be no property taxes at all. - O.Shane
Paul's right. The sane and sensible way to deal with Prop 13 is to simply allow people to defer any tax beyond the 2% to the equity in the home. This would allow seniors to live in their homes until they die despite any increase in tax. If they sold their house early and realized a gain on the house then they'd have to pay their fair share. If they didn't sell their house and died in... more... - Thomas Hawk
This won't be popular but why exactly are we solving for folks who might be unable to afford a home over time? Whether it be taxes or other reasons, there is no inherent right to be in the same place. In fact, I'd argue that it's natural to have this type of turnover. It ensures that neighborhoods remain vibrant and are infused with new families and that home values remain sane through a real supply and demand. - AJ Kohn
++Thomas. Prop 13 is one of the main reasons I would consider moving from California. - Cristo
WTF?! - Susan Beebe
This still bugs me; I wish I knew more about it. Even if the property started out at, say, $100,000, then the 1% tax would be $1,000 annually. There's certainly no place in the Bay area that has a tax rate of .08%. There's some information about this we're not getting; for example, the property may have an agricultural use exemption or something. I don't think it's representative of property taxes in general. Of course, I could be totally wrong, but still… - Glen Campbell, B.A.
The screenshot shows the assessed value = $5908, general tax = $62.78, and tax rate = 1.0629% - Ken Sheppardson
Ken if I pay 16K * 25 year what's the probability my house has appreciated more than that? Not much. And it's completely up to circumstance. Hit a high and you might be OK. Hit a low and you are screwed. That's bad policy to me. - Todd Hoff
Todd, if your house hasn't appreciated, then your taxes will not be significantly more than they would be when you bought it (or what it would be under Prop 13). - Cristo
Cristo you've accumulated a tax bill every year yet the price of your house fluctuates. If your house goes down in those years you'll still be paying taxes. So when you sell at the end and the price of your house has not appreciated greatly you'll end up with a short sale. You've also made the revenue inflow for the government very unpredictable. They'll need to take out interest paying revenue bonds waiting for those houses to turn over. - Todd Hoff
Todd, it seems rather unlikely that housing prices go down during a 25 year period, but okay. I'm sure there could be some adjustments made for that. Are you arguing in favor of Prop 13? - Cristo
Cristo I've just watched my house tumble in price, the thought of being on the hook for a long stream of taxes from high value years without any sort of predictable planning horizon is ulcer producing. That would be like the lotto from hell. - Todd Hoff
If you live in CA, the reason your house rose so quickly in value was partly because of Prop 13. It disincentivizes people to put their properties on the market because moving causes the sellers to pay more property tax on their new property. This constricts the market, forcing a limited supply, and therefore demand spikes the price of available real estate. Furthermore, property taxes are made higher to bring in revenue from those few properties that are actually paying full price. - Cristo
The reduction in value of houses is actually a good thing, although maybe not personally if you are caught in the tide. Houses are still way over valued in California, and should be a reasonable multiple of income. (E.g. 23:1 in Palo Alto is not reasonable) - Cristo
Houses aren't trading cards. People stay in their house because it's their house. In fact, being upwardly mobile trading one house for another even bigger house was perfected here. If it wasn't for that you would probably have even less turnover. And property tax rates in CA are 1.25 percentish which is very low. So they don't pay more tax. What happened before is rates increased while... more... - Todd Hoff
They are always areas that are very desirable with outrageous prices. That you can't afford one the most desirable areas of the state shouldn't be unexpected. - Todd Hoff
Just remember that your focusing on residential -- Prop 13 also applies to commercial property... commercial property doesn't change hands very often. REITs and other entities hold the titles and sit on them for 99 years. Howard Javris the man behind Prop 13 was a commercial property developer. - david koblas
I am with Shane on this one. Tax income, not property. Why is that I pay a property tax on a necessity like a house but not on, say, a Dali painting in my living room (for the record I own neither)? When I buy a house, that money has been already taxed once. To put things in perspective, I am not a small government supporter. How much to tax and what type of tax are two orthogonal issues. - Antonio Piccolboni
This is interesting: How High is Your Tax Burden? - http://www.forbes.com/2009... . So we pay 10.5% in CA. Higher than I would like. The average is 9.7%. It's 8.4% in Texas. For 2% I'll take CA. And remember CA year after year has been sending more to the feds than we get back, basically subsidizing the lower rates of the people who... more... - Todd Hoff
There is plenty of residential real estate that doesn't exchange hands. There is even a provision to pass real estate onto heirs without increasing property tax. If you plan to stay in your house forever, why do you care if property taxes are assessed against it until you finally pay? Prop 13 is a ripoff for anyone who wants to buy now, rather than 20 years ago. - Cristo
Cristo obviously because there's a very high probability I will owe more than I'll sell my house for. So under your plan I'll never sell the house. I'll be stuck because the pain of giant balloon payment on sale is too painful. - Todd Hoff
So lets run the numbers... Suppose you have a property you purchase for $100,000 outright, and we use that value as your tax basis. Further, suppose the tax rate is 1%, and the value appreciates at 5% per year. Prop 13 says the assessed value can go up a maximum of 2% per year. After 25 years the assessed value will be $160,844. The market value will be $322,510. When you sell, you'll have a $222,510 capital gain. - Ken Sheppardson
In the last year, the difference in property taxes between what you pay under Prop 13 and without will be $1,617, and over 25 years you've paid $15,697 less than you'd have paid without Prop 13. So you're saying, Todd, that you wouldn't be able to come up with that $16K after having just sold your property for $222K more than you paid for it? - Ken Sheppardson
Ken, will you guarantee me a return of 5% a year by volunteering to pay the difference? And will you guarantee the rates don't skyrocket? And the numbers are much larger than 100K. - Todd Hoff
Nobody has to guarantee you anything. What the market value did in the intervening years is irrelevant. You can just draw a straight line from the $100K to final sale price. Assume constant appreciation, and if that would've generated more property tax than the straight line 2% assessed value appreciation, you pay the difference. - Ken Sheppardson
If the final sale price after 25 years is $160K... the same as what the assessed value is, you pay nothing. - Ken Sheppardson
Ken, you will owe property taxes for every year. It will accumulate. It's not based on the final selling price. - Todd Hoff
And it doesn't matter if the numbers are larger than 100K. If it's 500K, just multiply everything by five. - Ken Sheppardson
It matters because you toss 16K like it's nothing. $150K is very different. - Todd Hoff
I think you're imagining a completely different plan than I am, where somehow somebody's trying to determine the market value every year. I don't like that plan either. That's not what I'm talking about. I explained the plan I'm imagining a couple comments up. - Ken Sheppardson
And yes, if the numbers are 10x... You buy a property for $1M and sell it for $3.2M, realized a $2.2M gain and pay a $160K tax bill. Those numbers are, in fact, very different. By a factor of 10. - Ken Sheppardson
@Todd: If houses aren't trading cards then why are you worried about the appreciation versus property tax argument? Property taxes should be in line with the value of your home. If the value of your home goes down get it reassessed and pay less property tax. Am I missing something? Property taxes are part of buying a home. - AJ Kohn
How about this - the insurance company will reimburse housing damages based on your purchase price, not current value. So when your home burns to the ground, if you bought it in 1982 for $150K you'll get that back today. That's the essential inversion of Prop 13 - and I doubt highly that many would enjoy that system. - AJ Kohn
These "defer the tax" proposals all implicitly assume the house must be worth more when it's sold. - Andrew C
Property taxes mean that it's not really your house, you really just rent it from the government. - Christian Burns
On the flip side, do they lower property taxes when the value of the house goes down? - Morton Fox
Yes, they do lower the tax when it goes down. Some counties reassess automatically, but all counties will do so if the owner requests it. When the tax is lowered I'm unsure if it can then only increase at the 2% rate, or if it is allowed to go back up to its previous high before the prop13 limit kicks in. - DGentry
Here's an answer for Todd's problem, (which I think is unlikely, btw, and not the reason given for Prop 13). He can pay the property tax on his place when he sells it at the rate it's worth at the time he sells it. So any taxes owed, will be amortized over the time his house was owned by him. If the market is down (and even if it was up before) he is still okay. Right? - Cristo
OK, here's what I still don't get. I'm going to pull numbers out of a hat here. What if he bought his house in, say, 2000 for $300K, it went up to $500K at the height of the bubble, and now is back to $300K, but he's got to sell because he's moving. He realizes no profit - in fact with inflation he's lost money, let's ignore that - but not only does he owe a pile of property tax, the... more... - Andrew C
That's what I was suggesting, Andrew. You only pay property tax consistent with the realized gain, not the intermediate market value. I don't know if that's a real proposal anybody's considering, or just a though experiment based on Paul mentioning the idea about. In a sense, it's just a local capital gains tax, which you could give some fancy name like "Deferred Property Tax Recovery Fee" or something. - Ken Sheppardson
Since we're making up the rules for a prop-13 replacement, we can easily refine them to eliminate the "what if I owe more than my house is worth" cases. For example, we could use the sales price to back-compute owed taxes assuming a constant rate of appreciation instead, and completely ignore intermediate market values, so that a temporary bubble will have to effect on your tax bill. We... more... - Paul Buchheit
++Paul. I was trying to say this, but you were much more eloquent. - Cristo
Are we not paying property taxes on a bi-annual basis? - AJ Kohn
AJ, your bi-annual payment could remain at the current prop-13 capped rate (2% annual appreciation), and the "market value" deferred taxes would not be due until sale. - Paul Buchheit
@Paul: Okay, understood. I missed that part of the equation. Would that be the grandfather way to deal with Prop 13, with all new purchases simply adhering to non-Prop 13 property tax assessments? - AJ Kohn
AJ, the new rule would apply to everyone. The idea is to keep the best of prop-13 (grandma doesn't get kicked out of her house due to rising property taxes) but to recapture the lost revenue and restore fairness so that new homeowners aren't having to shoulder the majority of the tax burden. - Paul Buchheit
@Paul: I guess I'm a bit more radical. Keeping 'grandma' there simply might not be the best solution. Communities need natural turnover. I'm for some tax remediation based on age - as is done in other states - but it should be based off the current rate and ensure that we're not keeping those who should probably downsize or relocate. I'm guessing I sound callous but should we really keep classes of people in their homes through different structures? - AJ Kohn
AJ, the problem is we already have Prop 13, so it would have to be sugar-coated to have any chance of passing. Even then, it's so widely liked (because there's a large percentage of voters that benefit from it) that it would be very difficult to overturn. - Cristo
@Chris: Agreed, it's difficult because so many people *do* benefit from it. Though ... at this point, if you repealed it ... there's a chance that a majority of homeowners would actually pay less in property taxes. Where's the data on this? Who's modeled it? Get someone on it! Because if you could say that 70% of homeowners would pay less property tax, well ... I think we might have something. (Certainly might be the case for homeowners if this applied to business property as well.) - AJ Kohn
@Ken - ah. I don't think I like that all that much, honestly. - Andrew C
@AJ, I'm not sure how I feel about Prop 13, but I am certain that your arguments about it's role in promoting the bubble don't stand up to scrutiny. If it's bad policy, fine. But combat it with good analysis. I'm not seeing much of that in this discussion. - Forrest Cox
I personally fail to understand why everyone loves to complain about revenue - the state is being "robbed" of this, the community is being "deprived" of that. That problem California - and most of the rest of the country, if not world - has is a SPENDING problem, NOT a REVENUE problem. California's public sector is an enormously inefficient waste of productive resources. Therein lies... more... - Forrest Cox
I could be convinced that it's a spending problem, but I would have to see the figures. - Andrew C
The amount they're paying is based on the original purchase price, right -- which given how low it is, would be from years and years ago. If so, then the sale "correct" that issue. But really, while Prop 13 cost the state tons in revenue, it's also a pretty absurd way to tax people -- on home value. The home has no value until it is sold. It would be like having to pay a huge tax on a... more... - dannysullivan
Danny: RE "It would be like having to pay a huge tax on a stock "gain" if you had stock that went up one year but never was actually sold." -- We have that. It's called AMT :-/ - Ken Sheppardson
Nobody likes paying taxes, but there has to be some revenue to operate the state. Whenever anybody brings up taxes, it's always that particular tax that is absurd. - Cristo
Besides, technically, you can extract value from your home before selling it. HELOCs, etc. - Andrew C
Tamar Weinberg
I am a mommy!!! I just gave birth to a little boy less than an hour ago :) baby and mommy and daddy are doing GREAT!!
w00t!!!! - Derrick
Congratulations! - Trish R
Mazel tov! - Akiva Moskovitz
Mazel tov! Do you have a name yet? I can't wait to see pictures! :) - Rochelle
Congrats! - Louis Simoneau
I would not be upset if you named him Akiva. - Akiva Moskovitz
congrats! - Costa Walcott
Why'd you take so long to tell us? (j/k) - Bruce Lewis
I love your IM status. - Ben Parr
hooray! Congrats! - Eric @ CS Techcast
Congrats...And Wow you just gave birth and your posting to FF...Your my hero.. - Bill Heslin
pics, or it didn't--uh, I mean congratulations - MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Gratz! - Rob H.
Wow, that's wonderful! You must be doing well! Congrats! - jcunwired
Congrats:) - Rodfather
Wow, Congratulations!!! - jamar78
Congrats! - *Tiffany Diamond*
Congratulations! - John (a.k.a. dendroica)
congradulations, rest dont tweet, ;) - chaz2b
Congrats Tamar :-D - Mitch
Thanks everyone! Pics coming soon. :) - Tamar Weinberg
congrats! - sean percival
congratulations!! - Trish Haley
Congratulations! - Paola Bonomo
Awesome! We'll bring over scobleizer 3.0 in October for play dates! - Robert Scoble
Congrats! - Hunter
Congratulations! - Barry Owens
Congratulations! This is awesome! - Samar
Congratulations! - Leena
Mazel Tov.... and already FFing. That's quick. - Jason Mayoff
Congratulations! Don't blink, he'll be all grown up. - LeighaB
:D Happy Family! - Glen Campbell, B.A.
Congratulations! - joey
Congrats, too~ - yagami
Of all the tweets one could ever post, this is by far the most beautiful. Thank you for sharing the moment with us so we could celebrate life with you. Congratulations! - Eric Traub
HOO-RAY!!!! Congratulations, Tamar. :) - Steven Perez
grats!!! - Joshua Schnell
yay! congratulations! - Bren, Photophobe
Welcome to the club! Congratulations on the family addition. - Sally Robinson
congratulations! - Brett Kelly
Pictures? Video? Weight? Name? - Robert Scoble
Horrray! - Erin @queenofspain
I will be there in September again. I can't wait to see your baby! And Milan needs more friends. And Scobleizer3.0 needs more mentors! :-) Enjoy every day, it goes so fast! - Robert Scoble
Mazel tov - Helen Sventitsky
Congratulations! - Jeremy Wiles from BuddyFeed
Congrats! - Geoff Schultz
Congratulations! Welcome to the world, little one. :) - Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
Congradulations on the little one!!! - Megan B Carroll
Congratulations to you! Whooo! - WorldofHiglet
mazeltov! - Karim
Congratulations! - Mo Kargas
Congratulations! - Gambit Fauri
Congrats!!! - BeeLing
Congrats!! :) - Internet's Tad
So happy for you, yay! - Laura Norvig
I don't know you, Tamar, but you still get a mazel tov! (You're on my FF via other folks I follow.) Much health & happiness to you & your family..... - Alan Mairson
now I ved seen everything on Twitter! - Diva of Dish
Congratulations! - RAPatton
Yay new FF baby! - Haggis (Sean Loyless)
That was kind quick! W00t - Caroline
Wow! Congratulations! I believe it is picture time! (Waits) - Louis Gray
Congratulations !!! - Nir Ben Yona
damn. congrats to your and your family. - Cee Bee
congrats!!! this should be a first for FF - Rob Scoble will know... - Rahul Deodhar
First What? I Twittered and FF'd my son's birth 9 months ago (p.s. not to take away from you Tamar, Congrats!) - InPerpetualMotion(Gina k)
Congratulations Tamar! - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Congratulations :D - MoiN AnjuM
Congrats, Tamar! :-) - Kol Tregaskes
woot! - Michael Bailey
This is so cool, thanks much for letting us know, and so soon after the birth too! Gotta love microblogging on the internets! - jcunwired
Yay! So happy for you and your family. - Yolanda
Congratulations!!!!!! - Amit Morson
Yay!!!! - Steve Lowe
Awesome congrats! I like how you let us know that you, baby AND daddy are doin OK. We know how daddys have a hard time sometimes! LOL jk Congrats to all! - Manny
CONGRATULATIONS! Yay to the new family! - Anna Lynn M.
hey congrats! - (jeff)isageek
YEAY! - Shevonne
Woo hoo! - Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
wow congrats! - Marco(aureliusmaximus)
wohooo! - Alfredo
Congrats! - Kate
Mazel tov! - cartoongoddess
Congratulations! - Heather Solos
Congrats!!! :) - Carmen
Wow Tamar, congrats! - Jorge Escobar
Congrats. Take care yourself and the baby =) - Praveen Vasudev
Congratulations! now get offline and start mommying, we'll still be here. - Steve C
Congrats! It's great to be a parent. - Steve E
Congrats!!! - Borislav Borissov
Congrats!!!! - Steve Rubel
Congratulations Tamar. That is wonderful to hear. Now, get some rest; you'll need it :) - Angie Haggstrom from twhirl
Congratulations !! be well and happy =) - Ruhani Rabin
congratulations! - Julie Barrett from twhirl
Oh Tamar, congratulations and I can't wait to see pictures! Btw what's BABBY's name? - Mona Nomura
Tamar, great news! Congratulations, mama. Best wishes to you and your family!! - Victoria Plautia
Congratulations!!! - Thomas Hawk
Yaaaay! - Karen from Nambu
Congrats! - Matt Cutts
Congratulations! - Michael R. Bernstein
Congrats, Mommy! - Mike Fruchter
Awesome. My sister just gave birth today too. - Nick Humphries
Congrats! :) - Eric Logan
woo, congratulations! - Imabug
congratulations! - Cristian
Wow! Congrats... - Bindu Reddy
YAY!!!! Congratulations! That's so awesome! - Josh Haley
Congrats!!! - Tracy Benham
YEAH! Mazel Tov! Now stop playing on Twitter! :) - Justin Korn
Mona, baby's name won't be announced until after the bris! - Rochelle
so what's his first computer going to be? - Zee.
Congrats!! Is this your first one? - darnell from BuddyFeed
Wow. Grats! - Bradley Farless
Mazel tov! ^^ - pitlord
woohoo...congrats! - Dan Rua
grats! - Neal Jansons
Congrats Tamar, be sure to get him a Twitter account soon :) - Jeremy Campbell from twhirl
There's a bad Twitter + Boobs = Yummy joke in there Jeremy - Kevin Kuphal
What's his/her twitter username, Tamar? LOL - Jorge Escobar
Needs and email address first. littlenoob@techipedia.com, perhaps? :p - Neal Jansons from IM
Congrats! Impressive to be back on twitter within an hour :) - Thomas Bøhm
AWESOME! Congrats again. Best of health to you and your new little boy (and daddy too). :) - Dr. Apps from twhirl
Congratulations! Wonderful news! - Joie at Canned Laughter
Congrats. I was wondering what you have been up to and now I know. Enjoy every minute you can. - Amani
Congratulations! - Andy Tinkham
Awesome Tamar! - Hutch Carpenter
Glad to hear that Daddy is doing great. - MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
what a great Mom this boy has! His Mom is Tweeting his birth! We live in such great times . . . - Richard Sorrentino
Yay! - Ron Bailey
Congrats!!! - Dinesh Mohan Raturi
Congratulations! - Kreg Steppe
congrats!!!! enjoy, this is only the start of an amazing life journey. - susan mernit
CONGRATS!!! =D - David Cook
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! - Adriana
Robert, you're bringing Milan to NYC in October? Nice. :) - Tamar Weinberg
How did that rumor start? Nope, no Milan to NYC. - Robert Scoble
oh, no play dates then as I probably won't be traveling to anywhere in a long time! - Tamar Weinberg
Hey Tamar your baby is "liked" by over 220 people and it's just a few days into this world, not too shabby. - Steve C
Baby boy is resting on mommy's chest as she leans back on a chair updating her FriendFeed. As for the other questions... he doesn't have a name yet. His Bris will be Thursday and we'll name him during the ceremony. The only video the hubby took was me calling his great grandma while the doctor was yelling at me to put my phone down (no, I couldn't actually tweet that I was pushing. I did it as soon as I could!) ;) Weight: 5lb 14oz at birth. - Tamar Weinberg
Congrats! - Johnny
Congratulations!!! Awesome news. And yet I'm so freaked out that you're Tweeting an hour after giving birth. Good lord, rest a bit! - Dana Todd
Welcome to parenthood! Your FriendFeed time is now officially reduced. ;>) - Larry Hawes
haha Dana, I'm such a computer nerd/workaholic. I didn't even take a real maternity leave. - Tamar Weinberg
Congratulations! - Emee Pumarega
Wonderful... Congratulations on your new baby boy! - Mitchell Tsai
Wow Tamar! I had no idea! Congratulations! :) - Michelle Tripp
Robert Scoble
Brilliant. I'm filtering/searching twitter messages through notify.me - Orli Yakuel
This is a great kyte cast. Is that the right word for it? I'm always trying to figure out the best way to utilize these social sites to proper filter out the garbage for the nuggets. - Daniel Norton
To learn how to use Friendfeed effectively, where do you suggest starting? Watching your video here and interested in leveraging its capabilities so would like to know a good way to get my feet wet here. - Lyn Graft
Excellent live video...thanks! - Keith Neisler
You should do a similar one on just Friendfeed, try to get more people over here :) - Simon Wicks
Robert that was great. Thanks for doing the video! Can you do one on Friendfeed like Simon asked? I think that would be very helpful! :) - Daynah
Thanks for sharing - good segment. Now I just need more time in the day! Can you do any split screen interviews like the Peter Himmelman show a few weeks ago? - Lyn Graft
That was awesome live video you did. - Amar Shah
Thanks for the live video! Inspiring me to spend more time working out FriendFeed. - Jalada
Lyn: I did a separate video on how to use friendfeed: http://friendfeed.com/e... - Robert Scoble
I like tweetdeck a lot but I can't live without navigation w/keyboard and the two-fingers horiz scroll so they really need to get this for me to definitely switch! - Jean-Charles VERDIE from twhirl
I missed the Friendfeed one, thanks for the link again Robert - Simon Wicks
Check out the Unofficial Guides to FriendFeed included in the post at http://www.growmap.com/friendf.... - Internet Strategist
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It was really helpful - Pelle Sjoqvist from twhirl
Excellent video Robert. - Jim Connolly
I second the request for a friendfeed video as well. Oh, and good video Robert - Peter Efland
Thanks Robert. I always learn something about using FriendFeed or Twitter more effectively from you. - Tom Landini
I'm behind a terribly unstable and slow 2G connection. Anyone care to summarize the video? - Jan Ignatius
brilliant - Thomas Power
This is really helpful. Sco. I like the "media snack" term. And "attention thief." Would like to see your GTD vid when you do it. And less so your google reader one. Search.twiiter.com. And generally how you drink valuable memes from the firehose is helpful. Is there a "channel" of these vids from you? "Feedly.com" I couldn't parse the verbal- google grabbed it based on sound. - moon_shadow70
I'm finding kyte interface a bit annoying cause I paused and walked away and can't just reload to where I was!!!! (is it me?) Arg, I may redo the first 15+ minutes. - moon_shadow70
It would be helpful to have your "must follow" list in non-verbal format that was too fast.And Kyte's rewind is way too inexact to keep rewinding it. Thanks. :-) - moon_shadow70
Has this changed in recent times? I heard on the gilmore gang that 90% of your friends are on FF, so is twitter still as prominent? - Chris Lloyd
Chris Twitter is becoming less important. - Robert Scoble
Dave Martin
The curse and danger of being an early adopter is a disconnect w/ the mass, a blindness to real-world context (e.g., everyone's on Twitter)
I am more aware of that than most of the late adopters I know who take their clues from people like Oprah. Can you tell me the market share numbers of Facebook, Twitter, and friendfeed? I can. Most around me can't. Your point is wrong. - Robert Scoble
Robert, the 140 limit impaired my thought. I'll stand by my tweet with one modification. The curse and danger of being an early adopter is the POTENTIAL of a disconnect w/the mass, a blindness to real-world context. Respect that you know the market shares of apps, as do I, and agree that most around any of us don't know which actually serves to make my point. - Dave Martin
Dave: thanks, yeah, it's why I get so mad when people tell me that the simplicity of Twitter is making it win. It hasn't won yet. It has 30 million. Facebook added that many people in the past six weeks and Facebook is more complex than friendfeed. Most people have no clue about how these things get popular and assume that because Oprah is talking about it that it's the biggest one out... more... - Robert Scoble
Which often translates into trying to make me seem some sort of weirdo or outlier. I hate that too, because it often means that people want to stick with their old crappy way of doing something and don't want to consider there's a new better way. - Robert Scoble
Robert, respect and understand your pov. The dirty little secret might turn out to be this...MS, FB, Twitter and FF are all just crude first gen tools that we are using on the way to a much different world, a new era wherein communication will be redefined in radical and revolutionary approaches that we not able to grasp. This and other possibilities make these times the most... more... - Dave Martin
Two points: 1) Maybe I'm wrong about this Robert, but that Tweet wasn't directly at only you. I've been around for some time as well + while I can't give you the market share on the companies, I've seen enough to know that many folks in the tech/news space *don't* understand how the tech will be "mainstreamed" and get caught in the hype; and 2) I don't think you meant your post this... more... - Brad_King
you can still be an early adopter and be blind to the masses.. knowing the take up figures, expansion figures and churn rates of a service does no mean you are immune to being blind to how the masses move. I could tell you that a massive amount of facebook users are fed up with the system and you'd never know that based on the pure figures alone. Context is certainly king, but it's... more... - alphaxion
alphaxion: the masses almost ALWAYS follow early adopter behavior. I was among the first to get onto ICQ and one of the first ones to get off of it, too. I look at these things as tides. Are the tides moving toward the service or away from it? - Robert Scoble
The first waves to wash up on a new beach are oblivious often to the waves that will wash up on that same beach three years from now. - Robert Scoble
Me? I keep in touch with the real world by traveling and meeting normal people and watching their behavior. Most business people still use Microsoft Office, for instance, but I've just recently started seeing business people using Google's Docs and Spreadsheets. That was an interesting obvservation. The tides are moving! - Robert Scoble
Can't the "masses" be the ones who are disconnected? Just because early adopters believe that they see the future of things in presently evolving technologies doesn't disconnect them from reality. Almost by definition, innovators and creators are disconnected from the masses. In fact, it's a duty in some regards. - phil baumann
Phil: absolutely true, but the masses usually get pulled in by something. Either their boss forces them to use some new technology (which is how many people got onto email or IM) or their family forces them to use some new technology (I know many people who wanted to see pictures of their grandkids, so they got pulled into Facebook) or they get pulled in by celebrities who are talking... more... - Robert Scoble
Robert: I suppose a great deal of who we call masses are peeps who just want to live their lives as they know it. So ventures are well advised to find out what nudges are needed to get them to tie products to what they're familiar with. That's usually something very simple (as in your examples); and perhaps that's why it can be hard to figure out (front-of-nose syndrome). - phil baumann
Phil: and sometimes you just need to do something for yourself and screw the rest of the world. That's what Woz did with his Apple I. He didn't expect it to go mainstream. He just wanted to build his own computer for himself. The best innovations are like that. Then society changes to match that innovation because they see value in it. - Robert Scoble
Phil, one aspect of early adopter behavior that deserves discussion is the penchant for the "dead" meme (e.g., RSS is dead, MS Office is dead, radio is dead, TV is dead). While some early adopters may move on - as Robert suggests with his Google docs example - it does not mean that mass abandonment is underway. Truth be known, we have all fallen in love with first generation apps that... more... - Dave Martin
I have to deal with just that in the presentation I am making for My Name is E. The platform, apps and connector for starters solve a problem (or make a hassle easier) that the people we want to tell it do not have (being on all kind of different social platforms, and wanting to connect easily, and having contact data for the rest of your life). And then there is out-of-this-world... more... - Ruud van Wijngaarden
Those that proffer the "dead" meme are, in fact, suggesting that they are somehow able to time the mass market. Clearly, the facts do not support any such ability. Witness the four hundred year death spiral of newspapers. Certainly the dead tree guys are fighting for their lives and many are hearing the death rattle but some (incl Rupert & co) are dedicating themselves to the rethink required to somehow survive in the brave new world. - Dave Martin
Dave - I guess we can say there are different kind of early adopters. Some just see ways to make the world a better place and get passionate about what they think will serve that purpose. Others may just adopt for the sake of adopting, without a deep regard for a focused purpose. Those are the ones who probably enjoy delivering eulogies. - phil baumann
@robert and I'm betting you signed up to many services that never reached the mainstream. It's the nostradamus effect. Some of the things you sign up to early do reach mainstream, some don't. Doesn't mean you're prognosticating everything they go to. Tell me, how active are you on habbo hotel? cause there's a shit load of people on that service. How about Bebo? Malple Story? - alphaxion
Phil a lot of the "dead" talk is just to get a fight going, which aggregates attention. - Robert Scoble
@Phil, Robert: I find those who harbor over "death" generally don't have anything to say about what *will* work. That's Robert's great strength - focusing on what and why something *can* work. Far more interesting to read about. (I will retire now to listen to that dead medium, the radio.) - Brad_King
alphaxion: I have tried a TON of things in the past, but I only get excited by a small handful and when I get excited by something the percentage of times those go mainstream is very high. I was the first one to do a web page for ICQ (which got me invited to Davos, by the way). I was early on blogging. I was early on email. I was early on the web. I was early on Google (begged my dad... more... - Robert Scoble
I do miss things, by the way. I missed Del.icio.us (I didn't need it, I had my blog to bookmark things). But that's OK, I usually do note that those things are getting popular with others (that's one reason why I watch crowds of early adopters so I can understand what their behavior is and how it differs from mine). - Robert Scoble
Robert is exactly correct on the "dead" talk - it's the noise of the agent provocateur. Sad that it remains a time tested approach to getting attention. We live in a world where it remains far easier to throw bricks than to use them to build anything of substance. - Dave Martin
Dave: no one pays attention to the geek in the science lab but everyone pays attention to the fight in the quad. That behavior is not about to change anytime soon. - Robert Scoble
Early adopters are also often early dabblers who don't put the effort in to find the depth of value in a service. I know I was guilty of that we FF for a very long time. We try on new things and gravitate toward those that are most comfortable to us for reasons we may not even know ourselves. Sometimes we land in a particular service because that's where our comfort zone of friends and... more... - Ken Camp
@Robert: here's where we diverge, in thinking that we are early adopters. Email dates back to the 60s at MIT + I was using it (with scads of others) in the early 80s (I was 12 so I'm sure it had be around in great use before that - I have skipped the 70s but know there is a giant whole in my knowledge there). And blogging is simply an application - BBS and such have been here long before even WE came on the scene. -- of course my point actually validates your "tides" point earlier. - Brad_King
Brad: of course you are right. I was actually the 65,561st user of ICQ. I was about as late to Twitter. A little earlier than that to friendfeed, but Louis Gray beat me by about five months. I just look for doubling pennies and hop in front of the parade before most people recognize a parade has formed. :-) - Robert Scoble
@Robert: I know, that was totally a nerd point (and frankly irrelevant - just a touchstone issue with me). You are of course one of the parade-leaders. I don't mean to imply otherwise. I think that was the academic (*gasp*) side of me + the journalist, cringing at "first" or "one of the first". *sighs* Just ignore me :) - Brad_King
@robert so were a hell of a lot of other people, I'm not denying the amount of work you do to help foster an increased number of people joining whatever is new. I thank you for it :) I'm just saying that it's more of a shotgun approach rather than sniper when it comes to these services. Early adopters will sign up to so many services that some of them are bound to go mainstream. It... more... - alphaxion
Part of being an early adopter is recognizing that most of the world is NOT on these services. Our role is to investigate and evangelize. - Louis Gray
I think the discussion of blindness and disconnect is wrong. We know there are different adoption rates and social circles. - Louis Gray
Investigate, test, find that the tool fits the needs, and then evangelize. - Zackatoustra
Seems to me the one thing most difficult for early adopters to say out loud is "I don't know" as it appears everyone has an opinion and stands willing to defend their handicapping of future odds of any new venture and/or interpret as proof of their case some small sample of early data. Since batting averages are not easily available the wrong are allowed to make repeated failed... more... - Dave Martin
Dave, who are the early adopters you are talking about? One thing I tend to do is write up summaries that show when I was right or wrong - and we try not to make big prognostications. We use the tools and say where they are useful. - Louis Gray
Louis, my reference is made to "the usual suspects." While your disclosures have earned you a well deserved respect, too many others (e.g., those that would proffer a "dead" meme to get attention) are trading on the potential gains of immediate attention without regard to the intellectual honesty of their argument. - Dave Martin
Louis is correct. I say all the time that I don't know how things will turn out. Google might release a killer real time search engine tomorrow that gets me to switch from friendfeed. One thing you'll see with me, though, is I will push the best of breed and if someone can demonstrate something is better than what I'm doing (you can see what I'm using on Wakoopa) then I'd love to hear about it. - Robert Scoble
@robert which is all any of us can do really :) I just don't agree with the notion that because any of us early adopt and that service hits mainstream that any of us called it. We can only say "this was cool/useful" and/or "you should try this, you might like it more". There is no connect, just a best guess. - alphaxion
alphaxion, spot-on! best guesses are all any one of us has beyond our opinions, perceptions, attitudes and beliefs. - Dave Martin
alphaxion in my career I have regularly gotten excited before most other people I know about some things. Most of the time those things get very big. A year ago how many of you were pushing everyone around them onto friendfeed? A few were but most were calling me stupid. Or worse. Arrington in December said I needed an intervention. - Robert Scoble
Robert, take heart and lead on, please keep in mind the scenery only changes for the lead dog. It was ever thus. - Dave Martin
Dave: that's why I jump in front of the parade. :-) - Robert Scoble
@robert a year ago I was applying for a job position with rocketboom that was advertised on friendfeed. That was my introduction to this place ;) crap was it that long ago now, I miss writing with them. That and I still want andrew to find vertical slice cool enough to add it to the rocketboom stable... but personal wishes aside, I still think it's more a case of stumbling across the... more... - alphaxion
Steve Rubel
Short URLs shared on Friendfeed now reveal the re-direct if you hover over them.
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great find Steve - btw, would it be ok for to drop you an email? Just a short one don't worry - Zee.
Like this. +5 more points for FF. - Amani
Steve, I love that I made a cameo in your post. I only wish my short URL was more inspired. - Scott Gatz
Finally! Yay! Wish Twitter had this a long time ago. That's the reason I never use full links that get converted. I change the www. to w3 .website.com and that way everyone can see the full link still and copy and paste it if they want to view the site. I got annoyed at clicking on duplicate TinyURLs. - Adam
@Adam, Just try out the grease monkey script, it will let you see all the tiny url's. http://tinyurl.com/5wduxf - Dennis Goedegebuure
Nice feature add. Keep them coming! - Eric @ CS Techcast
Nice feature enhancement!! - Susan Beebe
What Mohomed=genieyclo said! Thanks, FF crew. :-) - Lisa L. Seifert
One small nit. Does not work in comments. Try this link - http://tinyurl.com/5wduxf - Atul Arora
@Atul Arora Right! First thing I noticed. I also wonder with how many shortening services does it work with... - Nikos Anagnostou
This is awesome. Hopefully this can be added to twhirl too - Guy
This should be definitely exported via API - Alex Kapranoff
Finally! - Mr. Gunn
This is an awesome feature! - Nicholas James
Lovely! - Mitchell Tsai
I use the greasemonkey script tinyurl-ru at http://kapranoff.ru/friendf... but it only covers tinyurl.com and tinyurl.ru | Maybe we should do a community project that keeps updating that script with all those url-shorteners out there. | Alex, are you game? - ĎÚβĨŐÚŚ Dod
Is this a feature that friendfeed removed? Because it's not working in Chrome. - James Poling
I don't see any short URL's in FriendFeed anymore. all are automatically expanded. - Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Nate Koechley
55+ Extremely Useful Online Generators for Designers - http://www.balkhis.com/web-des...
Anthony Citrano
Tutorial: Use Illustrator to create cool 3D infographics | DigitalArts: http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/tutoria...
Tutorial: Use Illustrator to create cool 3D infographics | DigitalArts: http://www.digitalartsonline.co.uk/tutorials/index.cfm?FeatureID=1823
“With a bit of personality and fun, an infographic can become a distinctive and charming way for the viewer to learn and access data. The most important aspect is the underlying message – the primary information that is being illustrated.” - Anthony Citrano
mathew ingram
Lunar Orbiter Tapes Found in an abandonned McDonalds [feedly] - http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_...
Recovering the data has proven to be very difficult, requiring technological archeology. The only working version of the Ampex tape player ($300K when new) was discovered in a chicken coop and restored with the help of the original designer. There is only one person on Earth who still refurbishes these tape heads, and he is retiring this year. The skills to read this data archive are on the cusp of disappearing forever. - mathew ingram
Incredible story! - Robert Scoble
This is a perfect example of what Terry Cook wrote about in "It's 10 o'clock: do you know where your data are?" -- back in 1995 -- http://web.mit.edu/erm... - Victor Panlilio
April Buchheit
When thousands of rays are flying under your boat - http://seawayblog.blogspot.com/2008...
When thousands of rays are flying under your boat
When thousands of rays are flying under your boat
"It was the end of this June when amateur photographer Sandra Critelli, who was looking for whale sharks, found herself in the right place at the right time to experienced nature at its best. Her boat was surrounded by thousands of rays swimming together like autumn leaves floating in a sunlit pond... gently moved by the wind. The images speak for themselves. The spectacular scene was captured as the magnificent creatures made one of their biannual mass migrations to more agreeable waters as they follow the clockwise current from Mexico's Yucatan peninsula to western Florida in schools of as many as 10,000." - April Buchheit from Bookmarklet
Trish, did you know that Laura Botts can't stand certain types of sea food? - Jim Hearts FF
This is absolutely amazing. - Michael Forian
I thought the first shot was from a plane....wow - Toby Graham
Awesome! - Charlie Anzman
wow. just wow. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Nature is just plain awesome. - Christian (Simply X)
spectacular nature shots - Carl Cabading
love - Steve C
LOVE! - David Cook
Stunning! Love <3 - Penny
cool! - AMBI JI
Wow that's awesome! - Nicholas James
Really like this. Nice find. - Richard A.
Sea-magic! - Jesper Lind
I should have been there. - Morten Breivik from twhirl
wow, lovely, i like this blog so much, i have put it on my mail RS feed lol it is great some of the articles! - Tatty Gibson
wow ! - Mirialmani
that's incredible... - Rick Cogley
Jim Long
@PoliticiansTV http://twitpic.com/3y9y7 that is an Ikegami HL-V55 betacam (PAL version). it makes gorgeous pictures
@PoliticiansTV http://twitpic.com/3y9y7 that is an Ikegami HL-V55 betacam (PAL version). it makes gorgeous pictures
Tom Foremski
My #1 reason for keeping my land line is to call my cell phone when I'm rushing out the door and can't find it
Duncan Riley
Marc Canter
The End to the Marijuana Prohibition - http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2009...
Stowe Boyd
thunder and lightning.
Louis Gray
Louis Gray drops some science at SXSW '09 - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Louis Gray drops some science at SXSW '09
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Great vid, insight, and tips Louis! - Jay Neff
What's the video about? I can't do YouTube at work. - Daniel J. Pritchett
Daniel, the video is from SXSW, filmed by Morgan Brown. Topics include information overload (or lack thereof), real-time Web, aggregation, etc. - Louis Gray
dropping science like gallileo dropped the orange! - Morgan Haley
Dion Hinchcliffe
RT @Ross: via @timoreilly, Designing Social Interfaces book, social patterns wikified http://www.designingsocialinte...
Jemm
Likelihood of UPS guy showing up « GraphJam - http://graphjam.com/2009...
Likelihood of UPS guy showing up « GraphJam
Also, at our house: likelihood of UPS coming before 6PM - 1%; likelihood of UPS coming after 6PM - 99% - Rochelle
I love when they tell you when they're going to do a big ticket delivery (or cable guy appointment). "They will be there anywhere between, umm, oh lets say Tuesday at 7AM to Friday at 5:30PM" - mikepk
This goes for Cable guys too!! - Jeff P. Henderson
Pfft! I've waited 48 hours straight for the #$(!%&#($) cable guy before. 8a-9p window, two days in a row? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. - FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Mona Nomura
"Actor Kal Penn joining the Obama administration" via CNN. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009... Btw, Penn's new gig was announced first on EW.com. LOL
EW: The place to go for hard hitting Obama coverage! They should try that angle, I might watch.. - Mike Lewis
Where, White Castle? ;) - Mona Nomura
huh. I'm strangely ok with it. - felix
Andrew
You're The Best Music Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
You're The Best Music Video
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Bryan Person
Wheels down in Canada. Snow on the ground. Reminded #WhyAustin is my home!
I could have explained beforehand :-)...but the people and hospitality, its like a big ole texas hat :-) - Richard Binhammer
Steve Gillmor
Gillmor Gang will record Monday 4PM Pacific w/ FriendFeed founders
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Great timing. Big day for FriendFeed Monday. I'll definitely be tuned in. - Rolf Schewe
Awesome! - Susan Beebe
Great! I may actually be able to catch that one due to the time! Thanks! - ursi
I will be in the air, unfortunately. Bummer. - Robert Scoble
Good to hear. A good time for that. - Thomas Hawk
Gillmor, is anyone from the FF team on your show this afternoon? - Thomas Hawk
My guess would be he's probably been tired since Friday or so, Chris. :-) - Ken Sheppardson
yes Paul Buchheit will be on Gilmor Gang at 4PM Pacific streamed on Twit.TV live - Steve Gillmor
I can barely hear what Leo is saying. - Dave Winer
Leo's spent the last few days trying to recover from a tricaster failure and has been tweaking levels on different services, getting resolutions reset on feeds, etc. The ustream feed seems to have the best audio at the moment: http://www.ustream.tv/channel... - Ken Sheppardson
50min till Gillmor Gang right? - Wo
Cris: yes - Ken Sheppardson
Thanks Ken. This real time thing is pretty neat! - Wo
Paul Buchheit, Mike Arrington, Scoble, Dan Farber, Andrew Keen, and Kevin Marks. - Ken Sheppardson
Mike says he's writing an article right now: "FriendFeed is in danger of becoming the coolest app no one uses" - Ken Sheppardson
Mike sorta declares FF missed the boat and won't be able to overcome Twitter's lead/network effects. Paul's trying to defend the fact that they can/should be more than one company in the space. - Ken Sheppardson
I disagree with Arrington - Bwana ☠
Yeah, I don't think it's going to be a short term shift en masse to FriendFeed - Ken Sheppardson
Has Andrew used the beta? - Ken Sheppardson
Andrew seems like he doesn't understand the beta. - Thomas Hawk
Talking heads are mentioning Twitter because it is a fad - Bwana ☠
the idea of twitter storing my images and video on their site gives me the willies. - Karoli
Half of them don't even know what they're saying - Bwana ☠
I wish they'd stop talking about twitter... - Adnan
yeah it seems like some of the people on the call really don't understand how the new FriendFeed even really works. - Thomas Hawk
I just brought my friends timeline into Friendfeed as a custom RSS feed. - Karoli
Bwana: Yeah, this is a whole lot more about how the standard market dynamics stuff than what FriendFeed's done - Ken Sheppardson
I thought this was going to be a "Twitter free" edition...I guess I was wrong. - Ahmed
I can't understand some of these guys because they are talking over each other. - Mol, Time Warping
Ahmed: You can't really talk about FriendFeed after today without also talking about Twitter and Facebook. - Ken Sheppardson
Hey, yeah... let's talk to Paul about this... - Ken Sheppardson
Chris: They have to go through the usual suspects before they can settle in and talk about FriendFeed :-) - Ken Sheppardson
Chris, don't take it personally. - Kevin Fox
live updating on the new beta really works well for this type of back channel. - Thomas Hawk
Ken : True... - Ahmed
This realtime discussion is amazing... instant realtime chat room! - Adnan
Mike is missing the standards conversation - Kevin Marks
Thomas, it's great. I did turn off the replies to Twitter feature though... - Karoli
Live blogging events pretty much changed overnight. - Ken Sheppardson
I'd love to ask Paul, will there be any chance to give people the choice for run-Time instead of forcing it onto people. That's what I didn't like. Leave it an option. - Mol, Time Warping
That's actually a really good point: "Celebrities aren't coming to Twitter for conversation." - Kevin Fox
Thomas: opening up an entry page (this one for instance: http://beta.friendfeed.com/stevegi...) works really well in the beta. It's like a chat room :) - Benjamin Golub
I agree with Paul, personally I'm not interested in celebrities and Twitter has very little appeal for me. I'm far more interested in interesting tech and photography and for that FF is far more interesting a place. - Thomas Hawk
Molly, just hit pause and manually refresh - Karoli
Neither is Steve Gillmor, for that matter. - Kent
Benjamin: Only little kink is the page doesn't scroll to keep up. The convo keeps walking off the bottom of the screen. - Ken Sheppardson
If I post a comment, does it leave the post input open and focused? No. :( - Michael Leggett
Are the comments to this post from Steve just an analog to an IRC chat? Looks darned familiar! - Calgary Guru
I love FF over Twitter. - Mol, Time Warping
Michael: It does if you're on a single-item page. - Kevin Fox
Calgary: Absolutly, but it's persistent, searchable, linkable... - Ken Sheppardson
RT is great for these fast-moving conversations, but if only the comment button was down at the bottom. - j1m
Michael: when on an entry page (http://beta.friendfeed.com/stevegi...) if you post a comment it immediately refocuses the comment box. Edit: Kevin beat me! - Benjamin Golub
It makes it pretty much a group IM chat. - Kevin Fox
yeah this is nice. - MG Siegler
...and when I see somebody say something interesting here, I can jump off an link to everything they've ever written. - Ken Sheppardson
J1m if you click the link and come into this post only, the comment button is at the bottom. - Simon Wicks
Facebook. ugh. - Karoli
Can I go slap Mike Arrington? - Mol, Time Warping
Molly, get in line behind me. - Karoli
Molly: Ask Kevin to. - Ken Sheppardson
FriendFeed pro tip: once on an entry page (http://beta.friendfeed.com/stevegi...) click on the entry timestamp again :) - Benjamin Golub
Mike was pretty hilarious at the FF demo on Friday. He was wandering around the office looking at whiteboards and stuff... - Ken Sheppardson
Why should I use FriendFeed when I'm happy on Twitter? <-- Use Twitter. Duh. - Bwana ☠
Facebook's UGI is crap now, but I still use it. :) - Mol, Time Warping
Benjamin: That's sweet! - Sam Grover
Thanks Benjamin - Phil Maxwell
oops UI not UGI - Mol, Time Warping
I like the way these comments are turning into an irc room - Kevin Marks
Twitter is a broadcasting channel now. The real exchange of ideas is going to be here. - Ken Sheppardson
FriendFeed has photos, Twitter does not, I think that's huge right there and very disruptive. - Thomas Hawk
oh, that's very cool Benjamin - Karoli
FF is good for the conversation. - Mol, Time Warping
I think with the feedback FF is getting, they will improve their UI. - Mol, Time Warping
Friendfeed is pretty cool with the update. - Paul L. McCord Jr.
It's lots of things. It's adaptable. It's sorta infinitely extensible. The trick is making it simple at the same time. - Ken Sheppardson
Paul seems like a really understanding person. - Mol, Time Warping
The comment box needs to be above the comment stream so it doesn't get pushed of the bottom of the window if a couple of people post comments while you're typing. - Phil Maxwell
Kevin: Ask what FF's runway looks like, will ya? - Ken Sheppardson
Can't wait to hear it. When will it post to the web. - Tom Parish
I am not giving Twitter or Facebook my content. They keep it - Karoli
It would be interesting to pick any two: FriendFeed, Facebook, or Twitter, and assign those two arbitrary user counts where one had 10x the other, and then try to make the argument of how the underdog was doomed, or would eclipse the larger site. - Kevin Fox
I can't understand why it's always a choice between FriendFeed or Twitter and not a choice between Facebook or Twitter. Boggles my mind - Bwana ☠
When FriendFeed will tip: When people get sick of duplicating themselves across FB, Twitter, Flickr, Disqus, BackType, etc. - Karoli
There are tautological arguments. Twitter is superior to Friendfeed because it's simple, but Facebook is superior to Twitter because it has more functionality. - Kevin Fox
I don't think a direct 1-to-1 comparison of users is fair. Does a twitter user have the same value as a FF user under all the possible monitization schemes you can imagine? - Ken Sheppardson
*sarcastic tone* Yeah get Paul off the line so we can trash FF. *rolls eyes* - Mol, Time Warping
FF is far superior to either for two simple reasons. 1. It's far better for conversations. 2. Visual representation is significant and in many ways can be more relevant than text alone. - Thomas Hawk
I prefer friendfeed over twitter because it allows a conversation to beuch less fragmented. I can see the whole conversation rather than having to jump all over the place to pick up what is being said. Twitter is one on one im and not the group chat I prefer - Iain
Scoble speaks truth. - Bwana ☠
The most telling argument is probably that this dicussion we're having here simply couldn't happen on Twitter as it currently exists. - Kevin Fox
@Kevin @Bravada Agreed! Discussion here is much easier to follow than on Twitter - Pat Hawks
Scoble rocks - Mol, Time Warping
I'm on the call and reading this - Kevin Marks
nice. hi Kevin. - Thomas Hawk
Hi Kevin :) - Mol, Time Warping
Kevin: Hi! Are you reading via the entry page (http://beta.friendfeed.com/stevegi...)? - Benjamin Golub
Much better than the 'real chat rooms' - Amyloo
Mike has a very typical biz/VC approach to this it seems. Sorta limits the scope of what one sees it seems. - Ken Sheppardson
We have real-time web around a real-time video show... - Bwana ☠
When Paul says multiple services converging... does that mean he sees friendfeed, facebook and twitter eventually having the same functionality? - Adnan
Adnon: No, it means he sees interoperability and a free flow of data between them. - Ken Sheppardson
Adnan, since Facebook seems to copy everything FriendFeed does anyway... :) - Karoli
Back in my day, we called this IRC... kinda cool it's on the web now - Bwana ☠
"Why would you want a private room?" Because some people have friends in real life that they want to share with and not worry about random people on the internets messing it up - Pat Hawks
Bwana: And we can search it, link to it, hop off form it into peoples' other stuff, etc. - Ken Sheppardson
Well, I'm off. Bye :) - Mol, Time Warping
Bwana, on the web and going out to anyone who follows you if you want it to. - Karoli
Someone should get Scoble in this thread. - Thomas Hawk
Scoble speaks for the drunken folk. yay! - Bwana ☠
Kevin: Suggest Andrew actually try it, will ya? - Ken Sheppardson
yes Kevin it would be great to let the others on the call know that this is going on. - Thomas Hawk
Beta tweak: Put a comment link a the bottom of an active thread. I keep having to scroll up to get the comment box to come back up :) - Bwana ☠
Bwana: go directly to the item. It expands automatically, and you always have a comment box open: http://beta.friendfeed.com/stevegi... - Ken Sheppardson
Bwana, are you on the permalinked (and beta) page of this thread? If so, I think the box should always show. - Philipp Lenssen
Oh ok, I was on Steve's page - Bwana ☠
IM should be a component of Twitter, except that they don't give a shit about their users. - Karoli
Is friendfeed doing anything with opensocial? - Adnan
I think FriendFeed might kill the Prime Minister of Malaysia - MG Siegler
Chris: Some folks on this call (e.g. Steve) think email's dying, yes. - Ken Sheppardson
I hate email. I like FF direct messaging. - Thomas Hawk
Compare this: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... to this: http://search.twitter.com/search... Which is actually more meaningful? - Kevin Fox
Chris White: maybe that's why Twitter removed their IM functionality? - Phil Maxwell
Friend feed is all about the databasing and the search!! - Ed Dale
@Kevin Yes! FriendFeed search ftw - Pat Hawks
Because you're using it Leo LOL - Bwana ☠
Adnan: Matt Cutts and Paul were talking about OpenSocial last Friday night... keep your eyes open. - Ken Sheppardson
On Twitter, I know 50 people are telling other people to listen to Gillmore Gang. On Friendfeed there are several active conversations in realtime *about* the things that are being discussed on the show right now. - Kevin Fox
Kevin: perfect example - Bwana ☠
The search is the most powerful I've seen, particularly when it starts updating in real time - Karoli
Which is why I'm so excited about Filters - Bwana ☠
My company uses friendfeed as a group repository for niches we are researching - fully searchable - people can comment and it's permanent - Ed Dale
ken: I was in the middle of watching scobles video of the event when the gillmorgang started... :) - Adnan
Kevin Fox: Would be nice if there were someway to know/see what other convos are going. - Ken Sheppardson
bwana: I can't wait till when they make filters realtime! - Adnan
twitter is broadcast - friendfeed is a destination - Ed Dale
Not *everybody* uses Google, but they're doing all right - Pat Hawks
Adnan: It was after the demo, over a beer. - Ken Sheppardson
Ken Sheppardson: That's what I linked to: http://beta.friendfeed.com/search... - Kevin Fox
Google at one point was far smaller than Yahoo. And then Google came along with better tech. Sometimes you actually can build a better mousetrap. - Thomas Hawk
Adnan: seriously - Bwana ☠
It's a search for "Gillmor Gang' entries with more than 5 comments. - Kevin Fox
Leo speaks for the common man - Bwana ☠
Aha... cool. I've been trying to funnel everybody here. :-) - Ken Sheppardson
Mike is wrong about network effects and disruption. - Kevin Marks
friendfeed needs an api period - not what they are currently calling an api - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Some superset of the Twitter API, yes - Ken Sheppardson
the trouble with twitter is the follow you follow me problem - by making it to "rude" not to follow people - they create a mess - Ed Dale
I agree with those who say the API for FF needs to be more robust. Developers won't build if they don't get an API they can work with. - Karoli
yes, follow too many people on twitter it's a total mess. FriendFeed is far more manageable. - Thomas Hawk
let him finish a sentence, mike - Ken Sheppardson
not true @chris White - anyone can send you an @ message - Ed Dale
Scoble and Mike, like a married couple :) - Simon Wicks
FF is vastly superior for realtime search. - Thomas Hawk
it isn't real time search, Mike. it's TRACK - Karoli
The metadata's much, much richer on FF than Twitter. - Ken Sheppardson
with the real time push, it becomes track - Karoli
I gree with that - - Ed Dale
impossible - Ed Dale
Thomas: Agreed! Robert really has a point... even Arrington agrees! realtime search is important. - Adnan
This real-time chat is one of the reasons why FF new UI is so much relevant - Martin Añazco
Martin - But it's tooo faaaaaaaast </whine> :P - Bwana ☠
Likes are much richer than Favorites - Ken Sheppardson
Bwana, you crack me up. - Kevin Fox
this chat is excellent. - Ed Dale
see how this realtime is limited to this thread....Guess what else can do that... LISTS!! - Bwana ☠
friendfeed has metadata because they don't strip it from the incoming sources - twitter strips all of it but the source and the 140 characters - bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Lists of comments provide much more semantic connectivity than @ signs on Twitter - Ken Sheppardson
@Bwana we will get use to it or find better ways to use it. It's just day 1 on this. - Martin Añazco
someone in the chat room just said short statement metadata is useless. LOL. - Karoli
Martin - yup you're right - Bwana ☠
hang with the hashtags, then - Karoli
Likes are the new retweets - Karoli
Scoble is a FFholic!! best ever.. - Ahmed
He said Plurk!! hahah - Bwana ☠
oh dear the meta data of likes and comments alone is immense for the search engine - Ed Dale
If this permalinked thread is IRC, then I would want the comment box to always be scrolled into sight/ be at the bottom, tho. - Philipp Lenssen
Twitter and FF can and will coexist. - Pat Hawks
Yeah, Laconica/Jaiku are the biggest losers here. - Ken Sheppardson
Philipp, agree. frustrating to keep having to retrieve the comment box. - Karoli
Robert just nailed it. - Thomas Hawk
Yes. Needles out of the haystack ftw - Pat Hawks
Ken, why isn't there a bridge into Laconica like there is to Twitter? - Karoli
That's why they're shutting him up Thomas - Bwana ☠
Right on Scoble!! - Ed Dale
You have all the same friends you had yesterday, you just see them now. You're just seeing everything you used to miss. - Ken Sheppardson
Robert is on top of it tonight - Bwana ☠
Mike Arrington is an asshole today. - Karoli
Mike! See this forum! THIS IS WHY! - Pat Hawks
@Karoli only today? - Ahmed
Karoli: You mean a little checkbox to post to Identica? Because nobody uses Identica. - Ken Sheppardson
I just realized..my FriendFeed stats are going to be weird this month... Steve Gillmor will be my #1 guy - Bwana ☠
Bwana: He has to be to deal with Mike. - Ken Sheppardson
@Ahmed I was hoping someone would say that. - Karoli
Scoble's really on today. Making very good points. - Thomas Hawk
Bwana, that is where I am, but old comments perhaps should be pushed away by new comments... right now, new comments push away the comment box instead. - Philipp Lenssen
Here it is again...Explain again Robert lol - Bwana ☠
if you have comments and likes!! you can filter!!!!! - Ed Dale
Scoble knows how FF works far more than Arrington does. - Thomas Hawk
meta data is sadly not a celebrity word :-) - Ed Dale
Ken...but still, what if we want to communicate from FF. I have to leave to reply, can't send likes there. Even if it's not huge, it would center everything on FF - Karoli
SOMEBODY get this link in front of Mike! - Pat Hawks
Scobles been put on the spot so many times, he's improved all his arguments over time! :) - Adnan
Ed - Let's make a cute name for it.. "Meta Meta" or "MoMeta" - Bwana ☠
I like how the company founder just sits back and let's Scoble explain stuff. Robert is FriendFeed's "Goose", re the Top Gun analogy earlier today. - Ken Sheppardson
@Karoli I think he is just on the show to make people angry... - Ahmed
Fluffy kitten meta - Ed Dale
also group messaging, Filters... - Ken Sheppardson
how do I make a filter of only this comment stream? (sorry if it's a stupid question) - Michael Breslin
FF = the dream of social search realized. Twitter = one big search mess. - Thomas Hawk
DITTO SCOBLE!!! - Ed Dale
awkward silence of "I'm right you're wrong" - Bwana ☠
Fuck you, Mike Arrington. Just sayin'. - Karoli
sorry about the ditto! - Ed Dale
but its searchable!!!! - Ed Dale
This could never happen on Twitter. - Thomas Hawk
its permanent!!! - Ed Dale
And you can search it later, link to other stuff, etc. - Ken Sheppardson
Michael, as a workaround, perhaps you can search for this guid and add the search as filter 579630c9-3f6c-4e9e-a8ec-4e91a52d9f91 - Philipp Lenssen
Let that become Arrington metadata. I've been saying that to myself forever - Karoli
Just today :) - Kent
If other companies start pumping their activities into twitter and if they get to critical mass, does that nuke FriendFeed? - Angus Logan
you cant save IRS ...easily - Ed Dale
We have this thread as proof when Arrington says he was behind FF all along when it becomes big - Bwana ☠
YES! - Pat Hawks
Yes, Michael - Ken Sheppardson
Ahmed, he's succeeding. - Karoli
:) - Bwana ☠
haha. yes. - Thomas Hawk
pretty much - Ed Dale
Yes, you broke the embargo... Jerk. - Bwana ☠
I love you! - Bwana ☠
I HATE you too. - Bwana ☠
wow..who likes Arrington...really? - Ahmed
Arrington should join this chat. - Thomas Hawk
Gmail has all your email. Next argument. - Ken Sheppardson
Ken wins again - Bwana ☠
and google has all its data on their site!! - Ed Dale
Angus, how is Friendfeed nuked? Given that Twitter's feed can come to FF, I'd think the superior search would hose Twitter - Karoli
uhhh... now we are worried about silos... but we aren't worried about it when we talk about twitter? - Adnan
Ken, I have all my email. GMail holds it in the cloud, but it's all stored here, too. - Karoli
Twitter is limited...FF is the future! - Ahmed
I'd rather have the guy who came up with "don't be evil" managing the conversation on his site than trusting it to Twitter. just sayin'. - Thomas Hawk
I think of the Big Three, FriendFeed is the most likely to build embeddable services that let publishers brand their conversations. - Ken Sheppardson
its certainly not either/or - Ed Dale
It's here! - Chris Baskind
It's RIGHT HERE. - Trevor Childs
WE ARE HERE :) - Ahmed
*Waves to Mike* - Ken Sheppardson
Too bad Mike doesn't listen to women. he'd have the link to the chat room now. - Karoli
too much scrolling - Maxine Appleby
and you can search for it - Ed Dale
Philipp, thanks, seems to work. - Michael Breslin
Somebody tell mike to search for "arrington comments: 200" - Ken Sheppardson
You're not good at all sir - Bwana ☠
com'on now, it's right here..my 14 year old bro can find it! - Ahmed
LOL - Bwana ☠
I found it! - Randy Archer
"It's right there at the top" :-) - Ken Sheppardson
Hi. Welcome to your doom - Bwana ☠
Hi, Mike - Ken Sheppardson
he's found it. - Thomas Hawk
Hi Mike. - Thomas Hawk
Click on the timestamp - Ken Sheppardson
What has science done?! - iluvgimp
Listening (and viewing) the discussion in real time is amazing. - Henry Burger
Here it is again!! - Jeff
found it, finally, eh? - Karoli
Does this thing auto scroll for us as well? (my entry box has just scrolled off the screen!) I guess not. - Viran
GamersCircle Comics was here - Andy Wood
Somebody tell mike to search for "arrington comments: 200" - great point - Ed Dale
this could never happen on Twitter. - Thomas Hawk
LOL blais - Bwana ☠
it isn't a chat room... it is a conversation - Brian Roy
the scroll issue needs to be fixed. hate my comment box rolling out of sight - Karoli
Auto scroll would be sweet. - Pat Hawks
how about an autoscroll? Is that possible? - Phil Maxwell
why to turn it into a room? just click on the time stamp, it has its own page - Jérôme Flipo
And we stay on topic here. (mostly) - Bwana ☠
If you go to the item directly, http://beta.friendfeed.com/stevegi... it'll scroll automatically for you, with a comment box that sticks on the bottom - Ken Sheppardson
a searchable and PERMANENT conversation - Ed Dale
go here and the box stays at teh bottom - Amyloo
muahahah - Bwana ☠
I agree with Pat...we need auto scroll - Ahmed
he found it thank the lord - Zach Scott
Real-time comment is awesome - Jérôme Flipo
Autoscrolling would be nice - Jeff
nice, thanks Ken - Viran
no need to get my 14 year old bro lol - Ahmed
the nice thing about FF is that there hasn't really been any censorship that i've seen. - Thomas Hawk
No. The permalink does not autoscroll... - Pat Hawks
I am not a troll. I am reacting in real time. - Karoli
It's not trolling if people would say it to your face, Mike ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
Trolls are usually wrong...I'm just right :) - Bwana ☠
Oh, no, we bash Robert. - Ken Sheppardson
it's constructive criticism Mike :) - Ahmed
<3 Leo. - iluvgimp
Mike, I promise I don't spit - Karoli
Scoble made the most sense on the call. And probably knows FF better than anyone else on the call except Paul. - Thomas Hawk
block block block - Ken Sheppardson
Oohh also, use the scroll function in the browser, activated using the mousewheel/mousebutton3 and just set it to scroll to the bottom of the page, once it hits the last item, it won't scroll until a new item is added by friendfeed. - Viran
you're wrong! BLOCK! - Bwana ☠
Mike is just one of those persons that some people just love to hate :) - Phil Maxwell
LOL - Bwana ☠
Scoble has used the service a heap and gets the power of it - Ed Dale
+1 for Shel - Pat Hawks
Oh, please. stop it. you sat there and said FF would fail and a room full of people reacted . that's not trolling. - Karoli
Click on Saturday, which is a permalink and yes it does autoscroll. You need to go all the way down to the bottom - Rolf Schewe
OH Leo, don't say that please... - Trevor Childs
This is one of th few times where I completely agree with Scobel - Keith Barrett
Amyloo: How do you get to the link? - Nick in Manila
Thanks Leo :) - Andrew Smith
Scoble understands FF... mostly - Bwana ☠
@Rolf @Ken not in Firefox it doesn't - Pat Hawks
I've disagreed with him too :) - Bwana ☠
Rolf, the browser does not autoscroll here (Firefox 2.0.8). The comments do auto-push the box away instead. - Philipp Lenssen
Leo speaks sense. - Thomas Hawk
"mini-forums" will sping up where they are required - Ed Dale
+1 Karoli - Tony, Paradox of FF
Reminds me I need to cancel my Well membership. - Shawn Thompson
Yeah, in firefox the confo flows off the end of the screen - Ken Sheppardson
Good of leo to make nice with paul, so he'll want to come back... - Amyloo
idem for Chrome, Philipp - Jérôme Flipo
+1 Philipp - Pat Hawks
Yes. I thought you meant it was not real-time. Misunderstood. - Rolf Schewe
Barbarians being ... well ... actual people. - Chris Baskind
The ShamWow salesmen - Bwana ☠
I put my screen bottom up, so that the last comment is always at the top :D - Jérôme Flipo
But if we are commenting publicly how can we be trolls? - Brian Allen
Talent is not universal - Ken Sheppardson
Chris Baskind +1 - Karoli
I gotta say, the FF UI is not very intuitive. - iluvgimp
I am using Firefox 3.1 beta. Same thing happens here - Rolf Schewe
twitter will be fine if they get rid of auto follow - Ed Dale
It helps Hammer - Bwana ☠
Unwashed masses: The people that do not use leading edge tech - Keith Barrett
:) - Bwana ☠
who cares about following celebrities. I don't. I'm much more interesting in following great photographers. - Thomas Hawk
Doesn't auto-keep box at bottom of browser window in Chrome either here. - Philipp Lenssen
Well Leo..she did stop a suicide, so she is pretty smart.. - Ahmed
Wow, real time increase a lot the comment flooding, look at this thread! - Jérôme Flipo
Oh, the permalink is on the date, kind of like Wordpress. - Nick in Manila
Trolls .. Blocking give trolls more power - Michael Holzinger
Ed, I disagree. The Twitterati lists combined with lack of track mean it will be elitist. that's how they want it. Like Google weighting toward corporate sites in their results - Karoli
Nick: and Twitter :) - Bwana ☠
Jerome: We're discussing the live streaming Gillmor Gang at http://live.twit.tv - Ken Sheppardson
awkward silence of "wut" - Bwana ☠
Sometiemes trolls are nice to have around. - Thomas Hawk
I'm on Twitter because my site's readers are there, too. - Chris Baskind
Chrome seems to handle the ajax in a little smoother way on the thread page - Amyloo
wow, this is long. I like the trend with FF. They just need to give me some numbers that will boost my ego and I'll switch over. - Nick Gonzalez
Chris: I thought a troll was somebody who tried to incite you into responding. - Ken Sheppardson
@Philipp Lenssen Same issue here. I need to scroll down constantly to play catch up with the ever growing conversation. Hopefully there will be a fix for that. - Rolf Schewe
Mike, this could never happen on Twitter. - Thomas Hawk
As opposed to Twitter. - Ken Sheppardson
MAINSTREAM users pay for servers and keeping a service up. - Angus Logan
you are Mike - Andrew Smith
And now Mike is the Troll - Pat Hawks
Mike's trolling :-) - Ken Sheppardson
Twitter would get a reaction..we're too smart for that kind of bait - Bwana ☠
@Ken, I know, I'm listening too :S - Jérôme Flipo
Chris, exactly. so if you could bring your Twitter stream into Friendfeed, and reply from there, it's an invitation to conversation - Karoli
Mike is so much fun. ;-) - Chris Baskind
Leo nailed it. - Thomas Hawk
better than the junior high kids in the chat on the video pages! - Amyloo
Oh no..you didn't! - Ahmed
Leo, FTW. - Karoli
"I said that just to get a reaction." the definition of trolling. - Tony, Paradox of FF
Twitter = the AOL of Micromessaging. - Thomas Hawk
Agree with thomas - twitter is about individuals - friend feed will work for groups - Ed Dale
Mike would be a good agent provocateur. - Rolf Schewe
@Rolf Schewe I'm using the autoscroll using the mousewheel button to permanently scroll to the bottom of the page, give that a try :) - Viran
how many comments can a post hold before it starts messing up the browser? are their any posts with 1000+ comments? - Phil Maxwell
It's not Twitter vs FriendFeed.... - Bwana ☠
scoble's giving away money post had over a thousand I think. - Thomas Hawk
Twitter is a brilliant success that has not made a cent yet - Ed Dale
We could care less if Twitter succeeds - Bwana ☠
There's a difference between lots of people and quality content - Pat Hawks
MySpace grew at a staggering rate for awhile too - Karoli
and twitter is avery different service to friendfeed - Ed Dale
Phil, Robert had a 1000+ comment string - Karoli
Viran, I tried that, but how do you combine it with typing? :) - Philipp Lenssen
@Karoli ROFL - Pat Hawks
friendfeed will never be able to compete with Twitter's simplicity. - Phil Maxwell
That's like saying Facebook will fail because Twitter succeeds - Bwana ☠
Why can't Twitter, FriendFeed, and Facebook all succeed? Apple seems to be doing just fine right along side Microsoft? - Ken Sheppardson
Twitter is only a small part of FF. FF supplements other services - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Anybody who compares FriendFeed directly with Twitter doesn't understand Twitter - Pat Hawks
@Viran Thanks. Works great, until I have to type. ;) - Rolf Schewe
build in Friendfeed comments to your blog, Mike - Karoli
I will, however, refrain from repeating my FF/My Space comparison. ;-) - Chris Baskind
JaikuEngine: -) - Ken Sheppardson
I think in the future, people are going to hate simple stuff, they will need more features... - Ahmed
XMPP - Phil G
So how does the plugging of networks happen? Open Social? Why won't they talk about that? - Adnan
Yeah a comment button on the BOTTOM of the feed!!!!!!!!!!!!1 yeah! thanks for listening to my request for this earlier today!!!!1 woooo hooo! - Susan Beebe
twitter and friendfeed work well together - Ed Dale
REALTIME BLOG -- Try real time comments when people aren't on your blog using IM for the hundreds of millions of people on their desktop - Angus Logan
So we've went from it'll fail, to "I want this" - Bwana ☠
Ok must go... hubby wants BEEEEEEEER :) sorry to hit and run - Susan Beebe
Susan: Yes, when you're viewing an individual post. - Ken Sheppardson
I will crush the enemy social media and drive them before me and hear the lament of their users. - Moved to Facebook
smart hubby. - Thomas Hawk
i want transcript of the Gillmor Gang show today... :) - Susan Beebe
Bwana: I'm sure part of it is devils advocate/entertainment. - Ken Sheppardson
Its also very easy to subscribe to people here who are making sense - just click on their name - Ed Dale
Or good old fashioned two facerry - Bwana ☠
If the commenting systems go away, we still have the data. - Chris Baskind
Thomas - Yep we're celebrating! He finally dumped a client I advised him to dump MONTHS ago! my treat...LOTS of beer - Susan Beebe
I just made up a word - Bwana ☠
Mike throws stuff into Twitter. THAT is why it's better than FriendFeed - Pat Hawks
FriendFeed is the most likely of any of these big services to provide you with something that'll live on your system. - Ken Sheppardson
yes you did - Susan Beebe
Who here is making sense? - iluvgimp
haha funny Bwana! - Susan Beebe
stuff -nice word for it - Susan Beebe
lol @ Bwana - Tony, Paradox of FF
Susan's making the most sense about the whole getting beer for her husband thing. - Thomas Hawk
Daniel: What do you mean? We're talking about the live feed at http://live.twit.tv - Ken Sheppardson
how big will friendfeed have to get before kevin marks makes the move over to it? - Amyloo
yep :) I should should real-time comment how good each Harp & Guinness on tap will taste :) - Susan Beebe
having the data is HUGE. Twitter doesn't give yours back. Facebook? HAHAHAHA - Karoli
We use it for storage and search - create a room for a niche, get all the feeds in their and see what people like and what they comment on - Ed Dale
love you guys... gotta run... this is FUNNNNNNN :) thanks FF :) - Susan Beebe
"©2009 FriendFeed" is printed below what I'm typing. - Philipp Lenssen
Hello world \n - Ricardo Liberato
it's my default now - Amyloo
KShep: I'm listening to the same feed :) Just making a joke about none of this making sense. - iluvgimp
I'm never goin' back - Pat Hawks
People hate the grey - Bwana ☠
userstyles ftw - Bwana ☠
agreed Pat - Ed Dale
The summary: Twitter has already changed the game. FF could maybe change the game, but whether it will remains to be seen. We are still in the early stages of how this stuff works. Obviously, Twitter and FF (and dozens of other services) aren't mutually exclusive. - Albert Willis
user styles would rawk - Karoli
Daniel: gotcha - Ken Sheppardson
Is there a Pause hotkey? - Chris Baskind
i like FF beta - Michael Holzinger
oh Leo, they are not. - Karoli
@amyloo I'm mostly on twhirl, but this new FF is looking good - Kevin Marks
Pause button needs a refresh every X seconds option - Tony, Paradox of FF
Space bar should pause. - Jérôme Flipo
Like the FF beta : yes or no? - Ahmed
I;d like to turn bubbles off on the RT feed. I need my ral0estate - Keith Barrett
452 comments and no swear words or repeat spam messages. How is that bad? - Phil G
When you do a new DM...it defaults to MyFeed...bad..very bad - Bwana ☠
kevin, no, i meant go to work for them! - Amyloo
seems almost too simple - Zach Scott
Yes, a pause keyboard shortcut would be sweet - Phil Maxwell
and fixed. - Bwana ☠
keyboard shortcuts period - Bwana ☠
I like the comments gray. - Thomas Hawk
black comments are a big one for me. don't dig the lighter comments - Karoli
Please, Kevin, ask for a "pause" keyboard shortcut! - Jérôme Flipo
themes ftw - Jay Neff
I agree, can you make them black? It's hard to tell I'm supposed to read this - Colin
THEMES! Woooooo - Phil G
Yes, nobody's made that request before, have they ;-) - Ken Sheppardson
spacebar pause ...should be simple to do right? - Bwana ☠
I think holding down the mouse button should pause - Pat Hawks
Phil, wiggling the mouse does pause it momentarily - Karoli
Theming would be nice, the pastel blue usernames don't show up too well for me :( - Viran
I'd pay $5 a month for access to CSS - Andrew Smith
500 comments now. - Marc Dong
Grey is perfect for me. - Jérôme Flipo
I'd like my comments to be in a different color though to find them. - Thomas Hawk
There are over 450 comments now. Is this a conversation anyone wants to follow, or is this evanescent like a chat room? - Francine Hardaway
Themes FTW! - Ahmed
I love the new UI, keep up the good work! - Jay Neff
It will seem weird without gray comments but I could live with it. - Mitch
whoa this is like a chat room when you get down to the individual feed item page, 10 comments posted before i could finish this - sean percival
Somebody suggest Andrew Keen try the service. - Ken Sheppardson
Search is EVERYTHING - Ed Dale
Francine, it's great in real time, and searchable later - Karoli
FF = social search of the future. - Thomas Hawk
no one talked about Filters - Bwana ☠
Karoli, but then I have to take my hands off the keyboard :) - Phil Maxwell
:( - Bwana ☠
very hard to scroll back to Comment link - need to be able to lock in on a realtime thread like this - jcunwired
francine not like a chatroom -- it effectively is one - Amyloo
It's probably a boring read, Francine, but perhaps a search goldmine. - Phil G
custom themes would be nice - Zach Scott
Bwana: Small steps :-) - Ken Sheppardson
Glad to see Leo likes it so much. - Thomas Hawk
Cheese... moved....RAWR - Bwana ☠
i'm about 500 comments late to this thread, but loving the new beta, on my mac & iphone. My new default on both platforms. - Jeffrey Marsh
Francine: it's basically the TWiTLive impromptu chat - iluvgimp
I'm doing a video tonight Leo :) - Bwana ☠
Jeffrey how are you viewing it on the iPhone - Karoli
most of the comments won't make sense not in real time - Phil Maxwell
Was a good chat - Simon Wicks
Is Léo looking at this thread right now? - Jérôme Flipo
I was going to ask for themes. - archaictree
beta interface works on iPhone - Bwana ☠
jcunwired: you can, click this link: http://beta.friendfeed.com/stevegi... - Phil G
I hated the way it rendered on the iPhone - Karoli
I ALWAYS used the feeeds in real-time--wish the filters were RT. - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
will be fun to read while listening to the recording, though - Amyloo
I do agree with Arrington: realtime FF is nice, but is it the game changer that Steve Gilmore's post implied? Not yet--at least not for most people. - Albert Willis
"It's all about search"... indeed:-) - Patrick Chanezon
this must look annoyingly awesome on the iphone, let's look. - iluvgimp
I like that the comments are bubbling up on the front page too - Kevin Marks
and you can search it!!!! - Ed Dale
Hey, even Patrick is here. Woot! - Jérôme Flipo
@Karoli just via the browser (saved it to homescreen)....granted i am on wi-fi, but even real-time seems to work great - Jeffrey Marsh
top secret fuzzy logic - Bwana ☠
it's about discovery as well as search, and the interesting space inbetween - Kevin Marks
nice job guys - Jay
good beta test of the realtime interface - Bwana ☠
haha, tired of hearing about Scoble's car problem. - Thomas Hawk
and it was useful - Bwana ☠
Ok, i think i need to be part of this too! - Damien Benoit
hello ... joining in! :) - Garys Wine
Go for simplicity, FriendFeed - Mitch
How long until filters are real time?? - Ken Sheppardson
Click hide, done, no more car problem - Tony, Paradox of FF
I echo Ken's question - Bwana ☠
the nice thing about friendfeed is that if you get tired of something bubbling you can just hide it. - Thomas Hawk
Scoble's car brand should advertise on this thread :D - Jérôme Flipo
Somebody ask paul when Filters will go real time? - Ken Sheppardson
I also echo Ken's question - Adnan
Thomas - It would be nice to "anchor" it down without completely hiding it though. - Mitch
Albert Willis it is the gamechanger. It may take people time to figure it out, but Twitter took 3 years to jump the shark, so... - Karoli
@Paul: when Filters will go real time? - Jérôme Flipo
Chris, backward filters on home feed: exclude certain feeds from appearing on home feed - Karoli
@Chris: maybe "make this filter your homepage" would do it. - Jérôme Flipo
Pluggable algorithms for filtering/bubbling up would be interesting too. - Patrick Chanezon
should latest post be up top? date and time added? - Garys Wine
Holy update! - Dave VanderWall
I got some kewl filters brewing - Bwana ☠
would be nice to have some draggability to speed friend list making - Amyloo
take any Hobby -feed all the best feeds into it - one stop shot - Ed Dale
Agreed Amyloo - Mitch
I never really visioned FriendFeed as a place for spontaneous chats before today. - Thomas Hawk
holy crap.. looks good on the iphone.. a dedicated iphone app would be even better - iluvgimp
Everybody should check out AJ Batac's theme at http://beta.friendfeed.com/ajbatac... - Ken Sheppardson
great question. - Bwana ☠
omg... real-time chat engine! - AJ Batac
Thanks Steve - Jérôme Flipo
Man I love filters - Bwana ☠
before the service comes out of beta? - Ken Sheppardson
sweet - Ken Sheppardson
How would one deal with spam commenters in threads like these? - Philipp Lenssen
glad they took their time on this; it's really nice - Amyloo
Thanks Steve! :) - Ahmed
hidden stuff should stay hidden in filters as well. - Thomas Hawk
Filters FTW - Ken Sheppardson
less than a month... and with full keyboard shortcuts! - Jérôme Flipo
You need to promote it to your niches - Thomas to Photographer for example :-) - Ed Dale
I like how a comment thread is also a topic oriented chat room that can be archived and linked to unlike traditional chat room conversations that disappear once you close them. - Rolf Schewe
Philipp: Each person could eal with them individually: block - Ken Sheppardson
darn, I zoned out. Stupid A.D.D. - Bwana ☠
Exactly Rolf!!! - Ed Dale
can this section be expanded in the beta? I liked the old view so I could see stuff I missed - Scott Kingery
600 comments now. - Marc Dong
Everybody can make their own judgement what's spam - Ken Sheppardson
Rolf - Yeah this is a lot more IRC-feeling isn't it. - Mitch
I've had this running as the lead items on my Flickr page all day. I'm trying to promote FF at Flickr and other photography related places as much as I can. Love seeing great photos on FF. - Thomas Hawk
is direct message here a new thing, or just something i never noticed? - Amyloo
this doesnt auto scroll on Mac/Firefox FYI ... i have to keep scrolling to catch up - Garys Wine
nambuu - Phil G
Track = "friends:kshep or term1 or term2 or term3 or" as a filter - Ken Sheppardson
Spam is simple - dont follow everyone - follow people you know - Ed Dale
it's new - Bwana ☠
@Daniel Boehmisch I thought so, others may disagree, but I am going to give it a try over the next few days and see how smooth it runs...but I agree a dedicated app would probably be better - Jeffrey Marsh
@Mitch DALnet2000 ;) - Rolf Schewe
Watching this on post on Twit.tv while watching it on Friendfeed. Yo Dawg... - Eric @ CS Techcast
there's been very little spam in FF. When you do see it it's almost sort of fun. - Thomas Hawk
Well, Ed, but in threads like this you see everybody. Not just the folks you're following. - Ken Sheppardson
Ed, I was talking about specific comments in this thread, which show even when you're not following the person... and I didn't notice any block button when hovering over a name. - Philipp Lenssen
All thats missing is a realtime list of whos all currently viewing this page. - Tony, Paradox of FF
@Bwana are going to make a tutorial on how to use Filters??? - Ahmed
lol 16 new results on "Gillmor Gang" on Twitter since Kevin Fox posted it.... and 200 new comments here. We win. - Bwana ☠
Twhirl client shipping tomorrow: looking foward to see what it does! - Patrick Chanezon
I tell you what, next time I liveblog something, I'm just opening up a FF thread and going to town. - Phil G
oh gotcha! - Ed Dale
No, it's easier! (posting to FF compared to Twitter) - Jérôme Flipo
Ahmed: yeah, producing the video tonight - Bwana ☠
trouble with friendfeed clients is that they refresh when you like or comments which really disrupts friendfeed flow - Ed Dale
Why can't you CC: to Facebook as well? - iluvgimp
@Bwana thanks, can't wait to watch it... - Ahmed
BWana: is your voice/natural language -> filters converter done yet? - Ken Sheppardson
Ken: Prototypes are being brainstormed - Bwana ☠
Thomas, we had tried to experiment with Friendfeed for chat a year ago but the interface wasn't very fit for it then http://friendfeed.com/e... - Philipp Lenssen
heading home to the wife and kids. thanks to all for the chat during the show. this was fun. - Thomas Hawk
Sweeeeet - Ken Sheppardson
heh - Bwana ☠
have a great day Thomas! - Ahmed
thanks thomas - Ed Dale
see ya Thomas - Bwana ☠
@ iluvgimp - Facebook has a Friendfeed addon which basically does the same result. - Tony, Paradox of FF
See you, Thomas - Jérôme Flipo
direct message methods twitter api http://apiwiki.twitter.com/REST+AP... - Patrick Chanezon
Philipp, real time updating is a whole new experience. Later all. - Thomas Hawk
You know, it really would've been better to have this as a room., rather than a thread in the main feed... - Ken Sheppardson
let's try it, what's the syntax? - Amyloo
Welcome Garys Wine - Viran
oh no..almost 2:30 am over here..."Cairo, Egypt time" later guys! - Ahmed
Actually no... direct message is a specific API call - Brian Roy
Or just send a FF to a proxy "Twitter" user you set up for your own accounts on different services - Ken Sheppardson
@Ahmed. 2:30 is also Paris time. Zzzzzz - Jérôme Flipo
i love this ff! - junrxu
hey Viran! :) - Garys Wine
Learn the difference between Append and Prepend ?! - Jay
hmph - ralphsaunders
woah I just refreshed this permalink and now I don't have to scroll down to keep the bottom in view. - Phil G
You can actually use these real time comments as you would watching a chat room. amazing. - Leo Laporte
this realtime chat has done wonders to sell the new friendfeed layout - jcunwired
Yes it is - Bwana ☠
they are cool aren't they leo - ralphsaunders
in firefox - Phil G
thank God for the mighty mouse -- need to keep scrolling!! - Garys Wine
This is the second longest thread on FriendFeed. - Gary Burd
Phil, still nothing here. - Philipp Lenssen
what's the longest gary? - MG Siegler
Can this be saved or do you always have to modify the url? http://beta.friendfeed.com/FFusern... - Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Mightly mouse = fail - ralphsaunders
the longest wine? - Garys Wine
Could the beta.friendfeed.com makes the Digg homepage? - Jérôme Flipo
Watching now, am coming in an hour late though. - Brian Tiede
Gilmore - good show on TwiT.tv - TJ Polczyn
Jérôme, we could try :) - Philipp Lenssen
Scrolling to the top to comment everytme is ... annoying. - ralphsaunders
Oops, I take that back. It's #3. You can see the long threads here: http://friendfeed.com/search... - Gary Burd
I don't care for the ff.im links - Phil Maxwell
@ralphsaunders ... mighty mouse is saving my life right now :) - Garys Wine
ralphsaunders: click "Saturday", it's a permalink - iluvgimp
i need to scroll down ... go figure - Garys Wine
ralphsaunders: click on the timestamp ("Saturday") to go to the permalink http://beta.friendfeed.com/scoblei... - Benjamin Golub
almost? - Bwana ☠
EXACTLY as a chat room :-) - Ken Sheppardson
They should hire some Google folks. - Ken Sheppardson
And Twitter isn't? :) - Bwana ☠
@Garys Wine Would be quicker with a conventional mouse heh heh :P - ralphsaunders
you mean this isn't a chat room???? - Garys Wine
the permalink is the key - Scott Kingery
permalinked, searchable - Ken Sheppardson
"Will it Scale?" is the new "Will it Blend?" - Trevor Childs
i wish i could text talk! lol - Garys Wine
It's a message board really - Adam Turetzky
pickup basketball game - Amyloo
It's like a turtle..that eats a pigeon - Bwana ☠
The interesting thing of the NEW FF is that it combine IM+Chat+Email+Feeds in one place and we have just started. - Martin Añazco
except I dont like the comment box floating down down down - Scott Kingery
The Swarm == The Hive Mind? - iluvgimp
A linkable archived chatroom. How long it is archived I do not know. - Rolf Schewe
its word tetris! - jcunwired
the whole time i thought this was a "different" chat room LOL - Garys Wine
well, it's behaving like a chatroom - it's lost the overlapping publics model of twitter - Kevin Marks
Leo: You can have a thread like this for every show you do, in your TWiT FF room - Ken Sheppardson
Sweet thanks Benjamin Golub - ralphsaunders
Leo: to a large extent, this is the giant stream of everything you've been talking about RE XMPP - Ken Sheppardson
Bwana - it's turtles all the way down. - Phil G
I can't see!! - Randy Archer
700 comments now. - Marc Dong
dip in is a good strategy Leo! - Garys Wine
BTW, it's an "editable" chat room. That's amazing too. - Jérôme Flipo
Feudal or futile? - Trevor Childs
KShep: ie, "The River" - iluvgimp
@Ken I agree. Why use disposable chat sessions when you can link, search and archive them here? - Rolf Schewe
Leo ... imagine what it would be like with twit on sunday :P - ralphsaunders
@Jérôme Flipo ... oh yeh ..I just edited my post as a test, that's a good point!! - Garys Wine
I love the Gillmor Gang - Wo
I've managed to read everything, but could not parse the voice. will have to listen to recording - Amyloo
Editable chat rooms ... the wave of the future! - Garys Wine
I'm with Andrew Keen on this one. I find this all hard to understand, and therefore tiresome. So there. I want something simple and compelling - Francine Hardaway from IM
yes, we have the swarm/river/whatever... now we need to figure out how to give users the ability to manage scarce attention. - Brian Roy
You can scan friendfeed but how do you scan a discussion thread such as this? - Adnan
Jérôme, you're giving me an idea about animated ASCII art here :) - Philipp Lenssen
will this thin thread just keep digging down until it hits china? - clewellyn
Francine: It can be that if you want it. - Ken Sheppardson
Should there be a preference option for the text to scroll down and put the new comments on top? Would be nice. - iluvgimp
oooooooooooops - missed it - Marc Canter
if i could call a number and speak the text into friendfeed, now that's an app! - Garys Wine
let's go for a Guinness World Record ... let's never stop this chat/feed and keep it going forever ... - Garys Wine
lol - Jay Neff
How do you use the new beta RT feed in firefox sidebar? - Keith Barrett
Netbook with WWAN as a FriendFeed appliance. - Ken Sheppardson
These guys can be really Cranky Geeks... - Charles Alden
iPhone app - TJ Polczyn
A FriendFeed iPhone app or a robust web app that works well on the iPhone browser would be cool. - Rolf Schewe
forever and ever and evaaaar - ralphsaunders
should scroll with most recent posts on top - min
Thanks Leo! - Keith Barrett
how about a very long skinny tablet as ff device - Amyloo
Dial 2 Do might be able to do that, I know you can blog via a phone call using that service - Viran
*just put Steve Gillmor in a "cranky geeks" feed* :D - ralphsaunders
Nice. Real-time mini window update! - Rolf Schewe
I love this... but I want it in the sidebar :) - Keith Barrett
Amyloo: only issue there is, like, typing - Ken Sheppardson
Rolf: Opinions differ but I think the Facebook app shows how successful native apps really are - iluvgimp
userstyles - Bwana ☠
install Greasemonkey - Bwana ☠
I requested that today in the Feedback Room - Rolf Schewe
There already are "skins" e.g. http://beta.friendfeed.com/ajbatac... - Ken Sheppardson
curious if you can edit/delete comments - monkeystick
What Ken said - Bwana ☠
On the iPhone I can't see contending with all these different FF issues - Francine Hardaway
Hey there Leo hows it going - taxi_cab
it must be 666! - Amyloo
I also wish I could search FF for twitter followers/followees to build my cloud - Keith Barrett
How about making it <blink/> instead of dull grey?-) - Patrick Chanezon
"Cleaner Friendfeed" is a *great* add-on. http://beta.friendfeed.com/ajbatac... - Ken Sheppardson
well, theres 1 alternate skin currently - Tony, Paradox of FF
looks like comments just stay permanently - monkeystick
click it - Ken Sheppardson
I also use Andrios - so feel free! - Keith Barrett
ah there we go, you can edit comments still - monkeystick
I have abandoned trying to import things into Facebook and it's apps. Now I export from Facebook into FriendFeed. - Rolf Schewe
No, it's embeded video that plays automatically, no? - Ken Sheppardson
Okay, wind down the convo so I can go watch Big Bang Theory :) - iluvgimp
Its a .GIF ... 1995 people :p - ralphsaunders
That window issue sounds like it would be tough on the Android - Keith Barrett
Shoot. I have to go to work yet. Is lunch over yet? - Ken Sheppardson
im still using cleaner friendfeed V2 bc the beta cleaner doesnt look much better than the beta ui, aside from what V2 already does. - Tony, Paradox of FF
Perm chat rooms - Keith Barrett
Fun stuff - Ken Sheppardson
great show, good conversation. thanks and bye - Amyloo
hmm im not seeing realtime feeds now - Adam Hubbs
awesome sauce - ralphsaunders
Good show leo - ralphsaunders
yes latest jquery it seems <script src="/static/javascript/jquery-1.3.js?v=bb38" type="text/javascript"></script> - Patrick Chanezon
Leo: You're going to need a dedicated FriendFeed monitor :-) - Ken Sheppardson
GREAT SHOW! - Keith Barrett
Lol! - Garys Wine
Good Job LEO ... Thanks! - Randy Archer
I tried the FF Facebook app. 1. It looks abandoned, and 2. I see Facebook as a subset of my overall social content and FriendFeed as my hub. - Rolf Schewe
"774 more comments". That's huge. - Jérôme Flipo
and i guess the real time stuff must be in http://beta.friendfeed.com/static... - Patrick Chanezon
Great show, nice chat-stream too. - Willem (@wim66) ☠
Matt Cutts and Paul were already talking OpenSocial at the demo last Friday - Ken Sheppardson
hmm this is seriously like a chat. - ralphsaunders
Very intertaning show! - Adam Hubbs
Should've asked Paul if he wants to go back to Google. - Ken Sheppardson
On bart now. Someone should submit this post to digg. There are enough people here to get it on the front page - Thomas Hawk
Welcome back Thomas ;) I tried to post to digg using the new diggbar. Failed :( - Jérôme Flipo
Thomas it was mentioned, will check it out - jcunwired
Not chat - dialogue? - Randy Archer
We had similar problems with the last Beta Friendfeed release, Digg says "This link does not appear to be a working link. Please check the URL and try again." Friendfeed might be sending the wrong http header for Digg. - Philipp Lenssen
63283 chars of minified javascript: nice job Bret! - Patrick Chanezon
digg submit didn't work, even with link from friendfeed.com (not beta) - jcunwired
"Twitter is currently down for unscheduled maintenance". We did it, didn't we? - Jérôme Flipo
:P probs - ralphsaunders
still going?? - Garys Wine
So many commets, great! - Tony
I am a Chinese student .I like the new Friendfeed.. 国内的来顶啊。。。 - ybs
keep it going people ... we're not stopping ... what happened to the record we all agreed on?? c'mon, who's with me??? - Garys Wine
FF最长的回复了吧 - 阿石
I think scoble was right, mike arrington isn't aware how quickly things roll in a revolution. - Jan Zimak
Arrington - I am a fan of your honest point of view. (how's that for balancing out the negative?) - clewellyn
Philipp (and others), Digg submission should be working now, so Digg in :) - Paul Buchheit
sweet! thank you :) - Jay Neff
Have watching twitlive.tv and watching lots of comments to this post scroll by but not seeing it on beta.friendfeed.com - John Wood
this thread today was one of the most awesome things I've seen on FriendFeed yet. - Thomas Hawk
still going? - Garys Wine
继续顶,顶到1k - 阿石
At over 800 comments in under 8 hours, this thread has sprouted 100 per hour. Not bad for the best system that no one uses. -