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"focusing on quality actually reduce[s] cost more than focusing only on cost." The Toyota Way
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Silverlight 3 keeps the heat on Flash - http://anzman.blogspot.com/2009...
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Bing previews are in Silverlight!
- Charlie Anzman
Pick One - http://heyben.com/pickone/
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don't miss the top 10 (Sex, The Internet, Cats) and bottom 10 (AIDS, 9/11, Lil' Wayne) [via]
- Andy Baio
awesome site, sorta addicting :)
- Susan Beebe
I agree with Susan. It's definitely kind of addicting. I gave up at Google vs. photography - still not sure which I'd pick of the 2.
- Andy Tinkham
There are at least 10 great pictures within 10 meters of you right now. Here's one of mine. iPhone. http://twitpic.com/5stag
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@underpope You'll have to fool the bug into thinking you're not looking for it.
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TripIt | Online travel itinerary and trip planner - http://www.tripit.com/trip...
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I really like TripIt - wish I traveled more so I could use it :). Have fun on your cruise!
- Andy Tinkham
RT @babytime: http://twitpic.com/61v9g - @cc_chapman is serious about marketing. Check out this 'random' cloud formation.
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Off the wall: The amazing life-size 3D murals - - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
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These amazing pictures show the epic architectural murals that are deluding viewers into seeing a 3D scene painted on a flat surface. This beautiful glossy scene shimmering in the sun as the colossal wave appears to crash right onto the pavement forms part of a stunning trompe l'oeil series by John Pugh. It took two months of studio work to plan and a further six months to execute with the help of 11 other artists.
- Emma
from Bookmarklet
The Egyptian-themed on is in Los Gatos, California: http://www.illusion-art.com/chilis...
- j1m
this is awesome ...thanks for sharing
- Junal Rahman
No problem, Junal...glad you liked it! :)
- Emma
wow very kool stuff
- (jeff)isageek
Brilliant!!! Thanks for the share @Emma ( i RT it on twitter ;-)
- Aline Ohannessian
Aline: No problems and thanks for the RT on twitter... ;)
- Emma
These are amazing, The 2nd one seems like it must be 3D, yet 2D is what it is in real life. These are amazing, kudo's to the person in charge of designing these amazing pieces of art. Outstanding and as stated above, epic.
- Zachary TG
That's amazing! I'm not surprised so much goes into the execution of these.
- Rick Cogley
I love visual 3D Art like this!
- Susan Beebe
Love it :)
- Joe Dawson
Amazing stuff. Thanks for sharing!
- Ravindran Navaneethan
Incredible! Thanks for the post Emma.
- TechListReport
Wow. These are awesome murals. Very talented artist!
- Tony Campbell
This one (Taylor Hall CSU-Chico) is right across the street from my office. http://twitpic.com/5zy99
- Alan Chamberlain
It was a great article...how could I not share! Glad you all loved it! :)
- Emma
A Taxonomy of Coding Errors that Affect Security - http://www.fortify.com/vulncat...
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I am now switching over to make friendfeed my official twitter client.
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Why?
- Tadhg Kelly
because friendfeed rocks!!! thats why :)
- (jeff)isageek
seriously though...I am using friendfeed more and more and now with saved searches I can create friends lists and pull just their twitter messages and follow them like i would with tweetdeck or whatever. once saved searches go real time that will be awesome!
- (jeff)isageek
plus if someone is not signed up for friendfeed or not streaming their twitter posts...no problem...just create an imaginary friend and there you go!
- (jeff)isageek
I'll join you this week, when I start back Twitter-ing. been on friendfeed only since sat. yes it rocks!
- Wayne Sutton
from BuddyFeed
jeff what about mobile/iphone updates that you want to post on friendfeed then to twitter ? I'm using buddyfeed now and don't think there is a way...
- Wayne Sutton
from BuddyFeed
wayne yeah that would be one mobile limitation of using friendfeed as your twitter client at this time that I can think of. without saying every posted message via friendfeed goes to twitter I dont think that is possible.
- (jeff)isageek
what would be kool is if friendfeed would add like a switch command like say #tw or something that tells the system. ok post this via my mobile to friendfeed but also post it to twitter.
- (jeff)isageek
as a matter of fact i think i will add that to the friendfeed feedback as an option i would like to see
- (jeff)isageek
Yeah, it already is half way there for me as well. I don't have too many imaginary friends though, but I'm with you on this.
- Parth Awasthi
the other issue with twitter messages is obviously to get the @ replies they would have to be one of your friends. so you might have to check twitter.com from time to time to see if someone you are not following @ messaged you. you could grab the rss feed of twitter search but it doesnt show you the name of the person who sent the message in the rss feed.
- (jeff)isageek
Today, I unfollowed anyone on twitter who had an FF account, and subscribed to them here. Down to 100 people. One of them joined FF, but he made a good point when he said FF needed more effort than twitter (initially, at least). People need to setup a personal "system" (lists + filters) before they can reap the advantages FF has over twitter.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Ahsan yes...I think people who say friendfeed sucks or dont understand how it can help them have not found the saved searches. those things are really key to getting so much more out of friendfeed then watching your home stream fly by.
- (jeff)isageek
Do you think it would be a good idea for FF to provide a "template" of sort ? I think they provided some default lists in the old site, perhaps they should provide some group subscriptions, some default, common filters ?
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
i think really the main thing is just us the friendfeed junkies blogging and just talking about how awesome the saved searches are and how powerful they can be.
- (jeff)isageek
i think if your average user or even power user who is not familiar with them see's and hears about them in action they will be like wow that is a great feature and a reason to use friendfeed other then to create a stream of all your activities
- (jeff)isageek
Hmm. Is there a useful guide anywhere that explains how to set this up? I'd be interested to try it out but find a lot of how friendfeed works kind of complicated and I don't usually have the time to dig into it.
- Tadhg Kelly
Tadhg if you are looking for info on the saved search stuff i recommend checking out the FF saved searches group http://friendfeed.com/ffss as well as bwana did a great show on the power of them http://sn.im/gdmxs
- (jeff)isageek
In fact, if you think about it FF doesn't have one killer feature as such. Lists, Discussions, Searches, Likes - they're all subtle tools that can be used in diverse ways. I guess we just need to demonstrate them to our friends.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
I think this whole discussion is a prime example of how much communicating with a large group is so much better on friendfeed then twitter. can you imagine coming in 5 messages ago and getting what has all been said by following @ replies and we could never have the threaded conversation and long responses.
- (jeff)isageek
1up jeff
- BEX
I would be 100% on FriendFeed now if I weren't running a service that had Twitter support. It's a much more cozy environment.
- Jesse Stay
i hear ya jesse I really liked your blog post about using twitter with gmail and started using it. great way to do it...but it all came back to me wanting to get as much as I can into friendfeed and staying at this great place :)
- (jeff)isageek
Next step, turn off Twitter on FriendFeed! Weaning yourself from the tit - er twitter - is painful but strangely satisfying.
- Leo Laporte
Twitter is the worst part of friendfeed! As people have said, it's the little differences that make ff what it is!
- Chris Lloyd
that would be a big step leo. I dont know if i am ready to go that far yet. I still have a lot of friends who use twitter that i want to keep in touch with so for now I will stick around there :) but i am slowly making the move towards what you are saying for sure.
- (jeff)isageek
Jeff, you could post from here, turn off your Twitter stream (since it would be duplicate content anyway), and use TweetBeep to track mentions of your name. No more Twitter. :-)
- Jesse Stay
If you use PeopleBrowsr you don't need to switch. Just open a stack with your friendfeed. You can make combined lists from both twitter and friendfeed in PeopleBrowsr
- Svartling
some good thoughts there jesse!! hmmm
- (jeff)isageek
svartling i have started playing around with PeopleBrowsr a bit. need to check it out some more.
- (jeff)isageek
There are just _too_ many tools now, seesmic, peoplebrowsr, tons of websites that do things atop twitter....
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
And I mean that in a negative sense.
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Ahsan yeah there are a few tools out there :) plus with different services out there it can make for an interesting plan of attack to keep up with everyone.
- (jeff)isageek
wow this has really turned into a big discussion :)
- (jeff)isageek
I'm with Jeff on this one. And probably the biggest reason is the quality of the content and users on FF. I over followed a ton of people on Twitter, and it's kinda too much work do go in and unfollow a bunch of people. So, I'm finding myself more in FF. And, it's easier to find good users via the comments they leave and the rooms they belong to. (However, I will admit that I could do some of that in Twitter via searches. But I'd still have to do all that unfollowing)
- Bill Bittner
my only thing about peoplebrowsr is I am trying to get away from things like tweetdeck or whatever. and just have friendfeed as my base of social web operations.
- (jeff)isageek
Jesse, can you point TweetBeep directly to FF via the email feed or does it need to verify the address?
- CAJ, somewhere else
jesse back to your thought of killing my twitter stream on friendfeed...I feel like that should be up to people who follow me. if they dont want my twitter posts or want to get rid of the duplication then they can hide those entries. but I feel like I should supply all my streams here and let everyone do with it what they want.
- (jeff)isageek
i think with tweetbeep you can grab an rss feed cant you jesse?
- (jeff)isageek
i grabbed the rss feed from tweetbeep and basically since it just uses twitter search to get its data it never shows who the tweet was from without clicking it. so i couldnt pull that rss feed in here and see oh hey so and so just @ replied me without taking extra steps. now the email funtionality does show you the user you @ replied you.
- (jeff)isageek
interesting idea there about the email feed though alan but yeah i think when i signed up for tweetbeep i had to verify the email address
- (jeff)isageek
Well, the Twitter search rss gives you a direct link to the tweet, which contains the person's nick: http://twitter.com/persons...
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Jeff, I'm testing it out now. Stand by!
- CAJ, somewhere else
yeah but Ahsan it would be nice to just see it in your friendfeed stream or whatever and just know who it was from rather then having to click away from the service
- (jeff)isageek
Jeff, but if your Twitter stream is exactly the same as your FriendFeed stream is there really reason to keep it?
- Jesse Stay
point taken Jesse
- (jeff)isageek
Alan, you can add the RSS I think - haven't tried. I prefer e-mail because it ensures I don't miss anything.
- Jesse Stay
ah forget it I think I am just gonna move everything back to myspace :)
- (jeff)isageek
jesse and thinking about your idea of just pulling your twitter feed if someone really wanted to have my twitter feed for filtering purposes they could just create and imaginary me and pull the data that way.
- (jeff)isageek
Hmmm, so tweetbeep notification made it into FF okay by changing my email in tweetbeep to iphwin@friendfeed.com (http://friendfeed.com/iphwin...). However, it didn't show any information about who it came from. Well, unless because *I* sent it, it shows from me. lol, that make any sense?
- CAJ, somewhere else
ok i went ahead and pulled my twitter posts from my friendfeed profile.
- (jeff)isageek
PeopleBrowser can be overwhelming in the beginning, but when you get it, you will never use anything else. I'm both a Twitter and FriendFeed freak and this tool is perfect for both. Plus much more. You can even get blogsearch streams and other RSS Feeds in realtime!
- Svartling
Svartling that is pretty kool but I still think going that route means I have to give up time on the actual friendfeed site which is what I am striving to do with the changes I am making and bringing both twitter and friendfeed together the best I can here at FriendFeed.com
- (jeff)isageek
Ok. I understand but you can do that in PeopleBrowsr too ;) But I know what you mean. Good luck.
- Svartling
but I will keep playing around with PeopleBrowsr too though. I might find it to be a better fit after a few days :) I am all about trying new things and new ideas. that is what is great about this whole conversation...bouncing ideas off of each other...talking about our thoughts and ideas on this little subject, ect.
- (jeff)isageek
Yeah that's true. I just want to let you know that PeopleBrowsr exists as an Adobe AIR app too if you prefer that. I prefer the web version.
- Svartling
Jeff just got 4 stars in my book. :-)
- Jesse Stay
from email
haha well good to know Jesse :)
- (jeff)isageek
If it werent for friendfeed, my twitter account would still be rotting away.
- Ron Wening
My experiments with tweetbeep ended in a wash. There didn't seem to be any advantage to using that service (feeding into FF via email) and using a custom RSS feed from Twitter Search. So, I'll keep the RSS feed going to my Twitter Friends group and continue with my regularly scheduled program, already in progess.
- CAJ, somewhere else
just checking out www.flock.com
- Dominik Schneider
with some development and add ons this could be a great alternative to friendfeed (or friendfeed will be integrated into flock)
- Dominik Schneider
FWIW: We are adding additional FriendFeed functionality into PeopleBrowsr this week "Home" feed and "My Discussions" were added last night, and live-testing today. We expect to have even more functionality (Lists and Rooms) coming in the very near future. Please let us know what you think when you try it :-)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I recently made the switch too
- Johnny
I'm just not sure you can really make FriendFeed into a full featured twitter client. You don't see everything. I even bring in a feed of my @replies from search.twitter, but those are of limited use since I can't actually use them to communicate with people who aren't FriendFeed users. or am I just missing something?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Good move - congratulations -
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Rob, if you check "Include entry description as a comment" on that custom RSS feed it'll show who it's from. You could then start a new post with a @reply to that person. Very kludgey, eh?
- CAJ, somewhere else
Never got really in love with Twitter, but i grow to like FriendFeed more and more each day.
- Ralph
Alan: yes I could go through a bunch of hoops to do it, just seems too much trouble
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Rob, since we as users can manage a workaround, I'm hoping that the FriendFeed folks could figure something more streamlined and automatic.
- CAJ, somewhere else
While at one point I might have agreed with you Alan, I've since become a heavy believer in the multi-network "social-desktop" client, and prefer all my data to come in through a single window. To effectively FriendFeed requires more screens than I have. I find the FF web site basically insufficient for this reason. With access to my Lists and the Rooms I'm subscribed to, I'll get more...
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- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
yeah, good call - i switched to only ff awhile ago and ignored twitter but now the two tools are mostly seamless together
- mike "glemak" dunn
i love using friendfeed more, too!
- Egyirba
Nice move!
- Nicholas James
Most of my friends on Twitter are not on FF so I have them as Imaginary Friends. This is OK for reading their tweets. Also it gets round the recent @reply changes by Twitter. I can again see their @replies to other people I don't follow. BUT, I can't have FF conversations involving them because they are not on FF. Also I can't see who my twitter friends replies are directed to and then...
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- By_tor
try setting up an rss feed of your @name_twitter
- mike "glemak" dunn
Very interesting discussion over here about making FriendFeed your Twitter client. While I've thought about it in the past, there are some serious drawbacks. I'd much rather be able to import my full "with friends" RSS feed from Twitter and do some serious keyword filtering on it (have played around with using Thunderbird - Mozilla's Email client - for that purpose using the message...
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- Alex Schleber
I've done this for a few months, although sometimes I get sucked into a discussion (sometimes local folks, sometimes a customer, or potenial customer) back on Twitter. (But this starts with Twitter searches aggregated by FriendFeed.) Having a conversation is more important than choice of software, especially when the software costs nothing.
- Wade Dorrell
Mark not sure about the limitations thing. guess i have been lucky and everyone I follow pretty much is setup on friendfeed so i only had to create a handful of imaginary ones.
- (jeff)isageek
yeah protected accounts can cause an issue as well. as you know already :)
- (jeff)isageek
Yes Mark I agree, one thing FF could do to help people migrate from Twitter is a one-step process to turn all your Twitter followers who are not also on FF into Imaginary friends. A solution to the locked twitter accounts would also be useful although I don't have any of them. It also slightly annoys me that when you post on FF the copy sent to twitter has a FF link at the end. Anyway of disabling that?
- By_tor
FYI: Gay people aren't monolithic. Quoting NAMBLA as a blanket catch-all for GLBT peeps is like saying all white folks like mayo.
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I think you need a more offensive comparison, frankly.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Quoting NAMBLA at all is like ::buzzer:: FAIL!
- James (!?)
I hate mayo, made them take it off my sandwich this morning
- RAPatton
1UP each: James and Robert.
- Derrick
Yeah, I like using the serial killer comparison, personally.
- B. Hatin
Ugh, I can't stand mayo when it's by itself. It needs to be lightly spread across the bread in a sammich to keep the contents inside. :)
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
Humbug! Remoulade FTW! Sorry, for my apparent long tweet attention disorder, but I don´t know any of the abbreviations:)
- Thomas Bøhm
Oh and also, I want to try that olive oil mayo.
- B. Hatin
I'm more a spicy mustard type, occasionally some Miracle Whip. :D
- CAJ, somewhere else
That pisses me off too much to comment properly. Agree on need for stronger comparison.
- Michael W. May
It's more like saying all white folks like biker gangs... or something worse than mayo anyway. "B" doesn't require puberty, implies "not adult" and has no measure of "maturity" and is thus a complete and utter FAIL. I don't care if you like 16-year-olds *and it's legal*. The B is the problem esp. with the M. You aren't re-defining M to be more inclusive, you are pairing M with not-M. I'll shut up now.
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
What is NAMBLA?
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Jennifer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Derrick
Oh ok thanks for the link - I'm really horrible with acronyms and remembering what things stay for.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Ack! That sort of thing is so offensive.
- Katy S
The best defense is a good offense, after all.
- Michael R. Bernstein
Let's create a list of 100 new startups that should be created right now!
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Location based aggregated travel info, down to the street level. I want to be able to instantly know historical facts, reviews, tips, etc. about the building I'm looking at right now.
- Jason Goldberg
A user-curated/voted guide to the best expert advice on anything.
- Jason Goldberg
dont these all exsit or are possible today, bringing together lots of sites... whats stopping us doing these now. is it just the user interface?
- Nigel Walsh
that said, I like your idea.... we should have a news network that starts with positive news!
- Nigel Walsh
@Nigel --> it's all doable with stuff that's out there. That's the best part of where the net is right now. It's all online, now we get to build cool services to make sense of it.
- Jason Goldberg
Jason, this is an interesting idea. Regarding the "expert advice" thing, I would love to get a good version of product recommendations, but in a "wizard" format. Look at HDTVs, I should be asked questions about size, price, picture quality and maybe one or two other things and it should give me the best fit.
- Rob Diana
Other ideas?
- Jason Goldberg
Jason: the first two could probably done pretty easily as Mahalo apps.
- Christian Anderson
Seems to me mashup apps are going to get huge. The companies that have the most open APIs with deep access to information will win the next round.
- Christian Anderson
Further speculation: of the 100, 49 will be localized- or verticalized-search related. Another 49 will be mashups that tie econmerce to existing search tools such that the commerce gets more targeted and powered by one's social graph.
- Christian Anderson
I think the people driven social space needs a metric. Something portable that identifies users contributions and influence. Something peer mediated.
- Richard Zeidel
Christian, I hope you are right about mashups being huge, that would help me a lot :) However, I am not sold on social ecommerce. Product reviews are good, but the "power of the network" or social graph may not extend well with commerce. The social graph tends to use the idea that several people in your network are experts in something. Commerce does not work quite in the same way.
- Rob Diana
Richard, I do not know if peers want to "mediate" as much as knowing how they rank. It is the selfish part of social that drives that. Once you start listing or ranking people, you get the whole a-list and a-list backlash problems. Just look at what is happening with Scoble's list today, http://friendfeed.com/scoblei...
- Rob Diana
Point your smartphone or iPhone at a house or building, and get all the background information. (This is potentially scary -- one could get all the background information on the residents or inhabitants of the house or building. This is doable now -- the technology and data are there.)
- Sean McBride
One startup idea I wish we had was a unified communication platform. Basically, email, IM, twitter, friendfeed or whatever hook into one big "thing". This could probably start as a web app, and branch into mobile and and thick client apps as well.
- Rob Diana
Rob: I'm more hopeful on the ecommerce side. For example, I have several photo geeks in my social graph. I'm thinking about buying a DSLR. They know me and suggested a D90. It's not so hard to imagine someone suggesting where to buy one or even selling me theirs over ff or whatever.
- Christian Anderson
I agree with Rob. "a unified communication platform" could make life way easier for me. Streamy comes close but I am struggling with the interface. another startup that could be helpful is one that does location based social networking no matter where you travel...couchsurfing, socialect and localwoot do similar stuff. i wish the three could be combined :-)
- Freddie Benjamin
Rob: Here's the disconnect for me. The Social Space is about the individual and the individual's positioning is based on their own packaging, contributions etc. Influence is a key factor - Twitter started with followers, Facebook has friends, LinkedIn has connections. But qualitative data begs the SFW - so fukin what!?! We need a measure to understand people and their place - and i...
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- Richard Zeidel
Point your smartphone or iPhone at *anything* and get all the background information. Think about that. Products at stores. Places. People. Documents. Vehicles. Any physical entity.
- Sean McBride
Sean: See Ted Video Pattie Maes Sixth Sense...http://bit.ly/LdXlr
- Richard Zeidel
@christian -- *could* be done via something like mahalo but i think they are more pure play apps. the first is more of a killer iphone app. I have been traveling so much lately that i want something like this. A service that literally can tell you everything interesting you need to know about the exact place you are at right this minute. The info is already out there online, it just...
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- Jason Goldberg
Nigel: In keeping with your positive news network idea, I'd love to do a series in manner of The Soup... a possibly humorous weekly recap of web culture news (from trending topics and blog top stories to start-up coverage and web series highlights).
- Sarah Crisman
@shawn, i love it.
- Jason Goldberg
Book Recycling. I'd like to see a method developed that would remove the printing from old books and reprint new text..
- Bill Bittner
Jason -- this idea of yours has occurred to me many times, so naturally I think it's brilliant. :) One of the tricks would be to prioritize the mountains of information associated with any given place.
- Sean McBride
Richard -- got it: fantastic link to the work of Pattie Maes and Pranav Mistry at the MIT Media Lab.
- Sean McBride
Death Alarm: Follow my online activity via RSS feeds (blog, twitter, facebook etc..) to determine if I am dead!, and if so, activate my afterlife macros. Macros include: sending my letters (e-mails) to family, updating statuses("farewell everyone"), posting blog. Death will be triggered by configurable idle time counter (no status updates for 30 days for instance), followed by e-mail...
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- denizoktar
@sean I would love to know the history of my house - I have a picutre from 1926 when it was just a field, yet a year later it was built... who by, who lived here -
- Nigel Walsh
how about a feature request so that when you comment @nigel or otherwise it alerts you on Friend Feed!
- Nigel Walsh
you know I was thinking earlier - Monday, better Detox, would love to use twitter for global support and tweet what I eat - and everything I tweet, automatically get counted for me and emailed to me every day against a plan.. I rushed back to the PC and someone had done it - almost identical to my thoughts... either Im getting slow or someone has read my mind!
- Nigel Walsh
@Rob - Isn't this Digsby or something similar - the only thing that misses is Skype. Im also doing a lot of work with people like Cisco right now and they have some very cool UC stuff out or coming out - linking Presence and various other API's. Im doing this as part of an Enterprise Mashup - but this could easily be consumer based.
- Nigel Walsh
Twitting credit card. Choose which kind of activities with your credit card to be twittered in your account.For instance: Visa, please twit everything I eat.(Inspired by Nigel) Whenever I buy a food, it will be twittered. (I am assuming credit cards keep track of each item bought. Do they? Here they don't)
- denizoktar
One important start up - web 2.0 for education - there are people in the field but it is not "easy yet". Education is inherently conservative and slow to change - something stupidly simple that would allow/teach/train educators how to use and be successful in web 2.0 would be a great startup. Heck i'd even invest in that one.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Another important start up - portable health care - in that people can have an electronic version of their health care records, everything that they can carry with them. Personally it should be implanted, on a special card, and be very secure, up datable. The fun part would be dealing with people's MRI's, and other imagery/telemetry systems.
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
A critical piece of the social web is status/rank. All the successful plays have some method of measuring one popularity/authority.
- Christian Anderson
A just for fun startup - a true and reliable way to rank internet success, while we have ffholic, twitterholic, compete, quantcast, and other systems, where is the one that ties all this together, is reliable, is accurate, and can not be gamed?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Jason: yep, a location-aware iPhone app from mahalo could do what you want.
- Christian Anderson
Dan: isn't that internal conversion tracking tools? Or were you wanting to measure other sites?
- Christian Anderson
this probably exsits (someone let me know if it does) but when I comment on blogs I want it to update FF automatically - eg Disquss...
- Nigel Walsh
Ok. try this one on for size. I'm gonna create a website where every feature, including the first thing we build, is decided by a weekly vote of our users.
- Jason Goldberg
I'd like to see a location based social network built around graveyards. You'd create a profile and reserve a physical plot of land and be buried there when you die. Your tombstone would display random status updates you posted to the web throughout your life. And you could look up your dead friends graves on google earth. I've thought about this!
- Jon Gosier
give me a chip no bigger than a credit card which recharges my blackberry in 10 minutes
- Jason Goldberg
an online incubator that turned an idea(s) into a working site in days not weeks or months..
- Nigel Walsh
Days? Let's throw something together, halfassed, let it go down all the time while we get it working over many years. Days would be great, but if you want something good, you can't throw it together in days.
- Dean Clark
Company that makes an iPhone app for SocialMedian
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
from BuddyFeed
I'd like to see a mashup that would work for open networks like twitter, digg, friendfeed etc. that would allow community walls. a block would trigger a whole community to block the same person till a person within the community unblocked. open networks are dying because people don't want to comment on threads with people that they know they don't like. it could be voluntary. we would call these "Unions" and you would have to agree to be a part of one and you could always leave.
- Noah David Simon
Some great ideas here. Really like the unified communications idea.
- Gavin
How about a startup that encourages hobbies for school aged children
- Anthony Farrior
or a startup/networks for artists and animation. Perhaps something that has online tools and copyright ownership. For an extra fee provide help with networking and distribution.
- Anthony Farrior
or a start up like peek that provide gps and text communication between parents and kids
- Anthony Farrior
or a start up for upcoming clothing designers(not tee shirt stuff) where,again, for an extra fee, networking and real store distribution is provided.
- Anthony Farrior
last one, someone PLEASE make me a mobile video phone...As in "Hi yes, i can hear you and see you."
- Anthony Farrior
A free 'app' that helps re-educate those displaced by the Internet / automation / tech revolution.
- Charlie Anzman
Jason, this would be a great idea for a room here. You could create an identical one on socialmedian and import the RSS feed from it over here. If I have one criticism about friendfeed, it’s that so much of what is shared here, winds up in the rear view mirror, and is quickly forgotten.
- Michael Fidler
I can see why you would like a location based service like the one you described. There’s something like it on the iPhone, but I tried to find the name of it on Google with no luck. Additionally a lot of information just became public which would help with such an app. I would like something along the lines of what Rob mentioned, "A unified communication platform". I have a few more ideas but I need to find some info. first.
- Michael Fidler
Jason, there’s a site like the one you mentioned about user decided features also. Loic used it to decide what features to add to Twhirl. It’s called Uservoice http://bit.ly/ykT5
- Michael Fidler
We've already started a series of hyperlocal "best of Twitter" city sites like http://BreakingLANews.com. It's a grass roots initiative that provides these city templates free to community hubs and groups in each city, down to towns like Chico, CA http://ChicoBreakingNews.com. It's a unique way to propagate a new hyperlocal marketing model that, unlike sites like Topix, directly involves members of the community.
- Pat Kitano
Expanding on the UC idea, I was thinking someone could write a connector for twitter that in essence links twitter to all other chat clients, ie if you tweet msn:ndwalsh then you chat with me.. Same for skype:nigelwals, icq: etc etc... The ultimate comms platform
- Nigel Walsh
click sharing company
- Thomas Power
An easy way to discover new websites, not content, but great websites. Check out http://www.lynki.com
- Aloke Fernandes
@michaelfidler: yes, we use uservoice at XING. It's a great tool! What I'm talking about is using a tool like uservoice in a whole new way, to decide everything from the first line of code onwards.
- Jason Goldberg
Hmm I work on a location based iPhone app and unfortunately the GPS is too often not accurate enough to pinpoint the building you're in but can usually narrow you down to a 100 meter area. Also we need a magnetometer on the iPhone to do any accurate pointing (but it's coming in june they say...)
- Raj Advani
Raj, the other option would be to provide users a 3D map of nearby buildings so that they could use their human intelligence to find their correct location. But that might be hard to implement in an iPhone app. ;-)
- Bruce Lewis
Nigel Walsh, Backtype will import all your comments on blogs to FF. FF is even smart about not duplicating your Disqus items here.
- Bruce Lewis
Rob Diana: your TV-Example is exactly what http://hunch.com is all about.
- Richard Metzler
Haha Bruce I was going to say wait a minute...
- Raj Advani
I like Thomas Hawk's idea of starting a company to comb through old game shows and then selling the DVDs at outrageous markups to the original contestants or their family. http://thomashawk.com/2005...
- Davis Freeberg
"Location based aggregated travel info" => Nokia Maps & Lonely Planet: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Thomas Amberg
One of my weird ideas: Create a User Profile Management Site that allows users to create / update a common "User profile" (could have multiple "personality" profiles - work, personal, family, etc). The profile site updates would push out to a gazillion other sites and update user profile settings with each update. API adoption by a number of other apps is a must, obviously. The idea...
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- Susan Beebe
Distributed Indexing (Search Engine, Classifieds, Auctions, Real Estate) Like MLS for web directories / search engines.
- Matt Robson
@Susan I've been thinking of something like that for a while.
- Gavin
@Susan, @Gavin something like chi.mp maybe?
- Dragos Ilinca
Do we really need another 100 startups? I'd rather see one or two excellent startups come through and form their place on the web then seeing 100 coming through and all burning. Some of the ideas listed are pretty interesting and it would be cool if some of them were implemented although I'd like to see a few of the ideas merged together to see a more feature rich and useful service for users.
- Nicholas James
I'd really appreciate some feed back on the idea I stated above. I think it addresses a very serious issue in making "open" networks acceptable to the mainstream. I'd really like to hear from some tech people if it is feasible: making open networks acceptable for more people http://ff.im/3i7y9
- Noah David Simon
Coin-based economy for kids to help them skirt the issue entirely of having to ask parents for their credit card to play online games. Coins are kid money (and their parents nuisance money). Let's get coin value translated to online money and watch the revenue pour in.
- scott epstein
I want an app that will accurately predict the closing price of the Dow for any given day in the future. I know it’s not realistic, just call me a dreamer.
- Michael Fidler
Jason, I was thinking about your idea today, and that would be an interesting experiment. You could call it Tabula rasa. It’s definitely worth trying.
- Michael Fidler
I had this startup-idea: http://prezi.com/20331/view/ but I droped it. Now I have another one: 1. Start a communities for science & business topics, 2. provide Conference-Life-Streams with Twitter-Comments as usp like this: http://www.ustream.tv/channel..., 3. Provide further information like news, topic-monitoring (twitter), publications-research, 4. Track the use...
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- www.louis-e.de
oh, it's a bit similar to social median, I see ;-) Didn't know that before, sorry. But I can't find info-portals with meme-tracking-technique there. And no conference-streaming. So will built your competitor, haha...
- www.louis-e.de
Just in case people really liked the "unified communications platform" idea, I believe it is now called Wave, from Google (http://wave.google.com/).
- Rob Diana
Nother idea for startup: when riding public transport, service sends notification when friends are on the same train/bus etc.
- André Gallinat
You were right on the money, Rob. Nice Job!
- Michael Fidler
A Google Wave app that integrates with Google Health to provide real-time healthcare between Payers and Providers
- Jesse Stay
Ladies: Would you rather have a man who can cook well but not so sharp or a man who is smart but doesn't cook.
Andy Tinkham, (jeff)isageek, Kol Tregaskes and 12 other people liked this
Smart but doesn't cook. If I can't have interesting and challenging conversations with someone, then pretty much all else is lost for me.
- joey
Ask my wife.
- Louis Gray
LG - do you cook?
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
Not as much as I can (for sure). Ever since she was diagnosed gluten intolerant 2 years ago, we basically have two completely separate shopping lists and most meals are in parallel, so I tend to fly solo.
- Louis Gray
Look, you can always teach a smart woman to cook.
- Will Higgins™
I'm waiting anxiously on Derrick's answer to this one. He's my cooking hero on FF.
- Will Higgins™
What about someone who is sharp and can cook :o ;)
- Nicholas James
Mona directs it at the ladies ... and the guys answer :)
- Charlie Anzman
I think I deleted a thread by accident and too late to undelete it...damn my fingers! :( Antway phones abt to die. MAN I'm so upset that thread got deleted!! :(
- Mona Nomura
from fftogo
Smart. I'll cook. No problem.
- Sue Radd
Is that a trick question?
- ianf ⌘
Why would anybody want to eat something that a stupid person cooked?
- Dawn
I want a man who is smart enough to call for delivery.
- MicahBear78
Smart
- Nia
Dawn, LOL!
- Sue Radd
smart enough to make tons of money to hire private chef. i'm a guy so my response is if a girl was looking at me. i can cook so not an issue either way. if i was looking for a girl, i would want one that could cook and artsy (like martha stewart) and have a heart of gold. am i asking for too much?
- Pokai
Definitely smart but doesn't cook. However, this time around I got both! :) Bonus points. Go me! :)
- Sheryl
smart but doesn't cook. i love cooking, but I really wouldn't mind if he would clean up after :)
- Rachel Lea Fox
joey, Sheryl, Rachel, is that "smart but doesn't cook now, so he can be imprinted with proper know-how to cook later?"
- ianf ⌘
Not for me, but that is an interesting point. Intelligence would likely translate to more workarounds and options in life as a result of creative thinking. I'd just prefer interesting conversations to culinary excellence. And I could be well-fed without a partner who can cook (even if I couldn't be, I'd choose intelligence...and I really love food). Beyond that, I can cook, so it's not something that I need to rely on someone else for (though I enjoy that my fiance can cook as well).
- joey
ianf ⌘ - you can't change a man...or woman for that matter. ;)
- Mona Nomura
Mona, you are of course aware that the sisterhood is now sharpening its (carbon-fibre) knitting needles to set you straight on the first point?
- ianf ⌘
Oh boy. lol!
- Mona Nomura
i think i would want a man who was smart like me...but i am a pretty good cook too so my wife is lucky :)
- (jeff)isageek
A man who is smart but doesn't cook
- Shevonne
I have a smart man that cooks but I would possibley settle for a not so sharp man that does laundry and cleaning.
- Janet
Only those 2 choices? No thanks.
- Myrna
Myrna, wrong accent. As many as two more like it ;-))
- ianf ⌘
The curse and danger of being an early adopter is a disconnect w/ the mass, a blindness to real-world context (e.g., everyone's on Twitter)
Andy Tinkham, Dimitar Vesselinov, Kol Tregaskes and 27 other people liked this
I am more aware of that than most of the late adopters I know who take their clues from people like Oprah. Can you tell me the market share numbers of Facebook, Twitter, and friendfeed? I can. Most around me can't. Your point is wrong.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, the 140 limit impaired my thought. I'll stand by my tweet with one modification. The curse and danger of being an early adopter is the POTENTIAL of a disconnect w/the mass, a blindness to real-world context. Respect that you know the market shares of apps, as do I, and agree that most around any of us don't know which actually serves to make my point.
- Dave Martin
Dave: thanks, yeah, it's why I get so mad when people tell me that the simplicity of Twitter is making it win. It hasn't won yet. It has 30 million. Facebook added that many people in the past six weeks and Facebook is more complex than friendfeed. Most people have no clue about how these things get popular and assume that because Oprah is talking about it that it's the biggest one out...
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- Robert Scoble
Which often translates into trying to make me seem some sort of weirdo or outlier. I hate that too, because it often means that people want to stick with their old crappy way of doing something and don't want to consider there's a new better way.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, respect and understand your pov. The dirty little secret might turn out to be this...MS, FB, Twitter and FF are all just crude first gen tools that we are using on the way to a much different world, a new era wherein communication will be redefined in radical and revolutionary approaches that we not able to grasp. This and other possibilities make these times the most...
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- Dave Martin
Two points: 1) Maybe I'm wrong about this Robert, but that Tweet wasn't directly at only you. I've been around for some time as well + while I can't give you the market share on the companies, I've seen enough to know that many folks in the tech/news space *don't* understand how the tech will be "mainstreamed" and get caught in the hype; and 2) I don't think you meant your post this...
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- Brad_King
you can still be an early adopter and be blind to the masses.. knowing the take up figures, expansion figures and churn rates of a service does no mean you are immune to being blind to how the masses move. I could tell you that a massive amount of facebook users are fed up with the system and you'd never know that based on the pure figures alone. Context is certainly king, but it's...
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- alphaxion
alphaxion: the masses almost ALWAYS follow early adopter behavior. I was among the first to get onto ICQ and one of the first ones to get off of it, too. I look at these things as tides. Are the tides moving toward the service or away from it?
- Robert Scoble
The first waves to wash up on a new beach are oblivious often to the waves that will wash up on that same beach three years from now.
- Robert Scoble
Me? I keep in touch with the real world by traveling and meeting normal people and watching their behavior. Most business people still use Microsoft Office, for instance, but I've just recently started seeing business people using Google's Docs and Spreadsheets. That was an interesting obvservation. The tides are moving!
- Robert Scoble
Can't the "masses" be the ones who are disconnected? Just because early adopters believe that they see the future of things in presently evolving technologies doesn't disconnect them from reality. Almost by definition, innovators and creators are disconnected from the masses. In fact, it's a duty in some regards.
- phil baumann
Phil: absolutely true, but the masses usually get pulled in by something. Either their boss forces them to use some new technology (which is how many people got onto email or IM) or their family forces them to use some new technology (I know many people who wanted to see pictures of their grandkids, so they got pulled into Facebook) or they get pulled in by celebrities who are talking...
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- Robert Scoble
Robert: I suppose a great deal of who we call masses are peeps who just want to live their lives as they know it. So ventures are well advised to find out what nudges are needed to get them to tie products to what they're familiar with. That's usually something very simple (as in your examples); and perhaps that's why it can be hard to figure out (front-of-nose syndrome).
- phil baumann
Phil: and sometimes you just need to do something for yourself and screw the rest of the world. That's what Woz did with his Apple I. He didn't expect it to go mainstream. He just wanted to build his own computer for himself. The best innovations are like that. Then society changes to match that innovation because they see value in it.
- Robert Scoble
Phil, one aspect of early adopter behavior that deserves discussion is the penchant for the "dead" meme (e.g., RSS is dead, MS Office is dead, radio is dead, TV is dead). While some early adopters may move on - as Robert suggests with his Google docs example - it does not mean that mass abandonment is underway. Truth be known, we have all fallen in love with first generation apps that...
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- Dave Martin
I have to deal with just that in the presentation I am making for My Name is E. The platform, apps and connector for starters solve a problem (or make a hassle easier) that the people we want to tell it do not have (being on all kind of different social platforms, and wanting to connect easily, and having contact data for the rest of your life). And then there is out-of-this-world...
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- Ruud van Wijngaarden
Those that proffer the "dead" meme are, in fact, suggesting that they are somehow able to time the mass market. Clearly, the facts do not support any such ability. Witness the four hundred year death spiral of newspapers. Certainly the dead tree guys are fighting for their lives and many are hearing the death rattle but some (incl Rupert & co) are dedicating themselves to the rethink required to somehow survive in the brave new world.
- Dave Martin
Dave - I guess we can say there are different kind of early adopters. Some just see ways to make the world a better place and get passionate about what they think will serve that purpose. Others may just adopt for the sake of adopting, without a deep regard for a focused purpose. Those are the ones who probably enjoy delivering eulogies.
- phil baumann
@robert and I'm betting you signed up to many services that never reached the mainstream. It's the nostradamus effect. Some of the things you sign up to early do reach mainstream, some don't. Doesn't mean you're prognosticating everything they go to. Tell me, how active are you on habbo hotel? cause there's a shit load of people on that service. How about Bebo? Malple Story?
- alphaxion
Phil a lot of the "dead" talk is just to get a fight going, which aggregates attention.
- Robert Scoble
@Phil, Robert: I find those who harbor over "death" generally don't have anything to say about what *will* work. That's Robert's great strength - focusing on what and why something *can* work. Far more interesting to read about. (I will retire now to listen to that dead medium, the radio.)
- Brad_King
alphaxion: I have tried a TON of things in the past, but I only get excited by a small handful and when I get excited by something the percentage of times those go mainstream is very high. I was the first one to do a web page for ICQ (which got me invited to Davos, by the way). I was early on blogging. I was early on email. I was early on the web. I was early on Google (begged my dad...
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- Robert Scoble
I do miss things, by the way. I missed Del.icio.us (I didn't need it, I had my blog to bookmark things). But that's OK, I usually do note that those things are getting popular with others (that's one reason why I watch crowds of early adopters so I can understand what their behavior is and how it differs from mine).
- Robert Scoble
Robert is exactly correct on the "dead" talk - it's the noise of the agent provocateur. Sad that it remains a time tested approach to getting attention. We live in a world where it remains far easier to throw bricks than to use them to build anything of substance.
- Dave Martin
Dave: no one pays attention to the geek in the science lab but everyone pays attention to the fight in the quad. That behavior is not about to change anytime soon.
- Robert Scoble
Early adopters are also often early dabblers who don't put the effort in to find the depth of value in a service. I know I was guilty of that we FF for a very long time. We try on new things and gravitate toward those that are most comfortable to us for reasons we may not even know ourselves. Sometimes we land in a particular service because that's where our comfort zone of friends and...
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- Ken Camp
@Robert: here's where we diverge, in thinking that we are early adopters. Email dates back to the 60s at MIT + I was using it (with scads of others) in the early 80s (I was 12 so I'm sure it had be around in great use before that - I have skipped the 70s but know there is a giant whole in my knowledge there). And blogging is simply an application - BBS and such have been here long before even WE came on the scene. -- of course my point actually validates your "tides" point earlier.
- Brad_King
Brad: of course you are right. I was actually the 65,561st user of ICQ. I was about as late to Twitter. A little earlier than that to friendfeed, but Louis Gray beat me by about five months. I just look for doubling pennies and hop in front of the parade before most people recognize a parade has formed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
@Robert: I know, that was totally a nerd point (and frankly irrelevant - just a touchstone issue with me). You are of course one of the parade-leaders. I don't mean to imply otherwise. I think that was the academic (*gasp*) side of me + the journalist, cringing at "first" or "one of the first". *sighs* Just ignore me :)
- Brad_King
@robert so were a hell of a lot of other people, I'm not denying the amount of work you do to help foster an increased number of people joining whatever is new. I thank you for it :) I'm just saying that it's more of a shotgun approach rather than sniper when it comes to these services. Early adopters will sign up to so many services that some of them are bound to go mainstream. It...
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- alphaxion
Part of being an early adopter is recognizing that most of the world is NOT on these services. Our role is to investigate and evangelize.
- Louis Gray
I think the discussion of blindness and disconnect is wrong. We know there are different adoption rates and social circles.
- Louis Gray
Investigate, test, find that the tool fits the needs, and then evangelize.
- Zackatoustra
Seems to me the one thing most difficult for early adopters to say out loud is "I don't know" as it appears everyone has an opinion and stands willing to defend their handicapping of future odds of any new venture and/or interpret as proof of their case some small sample of early data. Since batting averages are not easily available the wrong are allowed to make repeated failed...
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- Dave Martin
Dave, who are the early adopters you are talking about? One thing I tend to do is write up summaries that show when I was right or wrong - and we try not to make big prognostications. We use the tools and say where they are useful.
- Louis Gray
Louis, my reference is made to "the usual suspects." While your disclosures have earned you a well deserved respect, too many others (e.g., those that would proffer a "dead" meme to get attention) are trading on the potential gains of immediate attention without regard to the intellectual honesty of their argument.
- Dave Martin
Louis is correct. I say all the time that I don't know how things will turn out. Google might release a killer real time search engine tomorrow that gets me to switch from friendfeed. One thing you'll see with me, though, is I will push the best of breed and if someone can demonstrate something is better than what I'm doing (you can see what I'm using on Wakoopa) then I'd love to hear about it.
- Robert Scoble
@robert which is all any of us can do really :) I just don't agree with the notion that because any of us early adopt and that service hits mainstream that any of us called it. We can only say "this was cool/useful" and/or "you should try this, you might like it more". There is no connect, just a best guess.
- alphaxion
alphaxion, spot-on! best guesses are all any one of us has beyond our opinions, perceptions, attitudes and beliefs.
- Dave Martin
alphaxion in my career I have regularly gotten excited before most other people I know about some things. Most of the time those things get very big. A year ago how many of you were pushing everyone around them onto friendfeed? A few were but most were calling me stupid. Or worse. Arrington in December said I needed an intervention.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, take heart and lead on, please keep in mind the scenery only changes for the lead dog. It was ever thus.
- Dave Martin
Dave: that's why I jump in front of the parade. :-)
- Robert Scoble
@robert a year ago I was applying for a job position with rocketboom that was advertised on friendfeed. That was my introduction to this place ;) crap was it that long ago now, I miss writing with them. That and I still want andrew to find vertical slice cool enough to add it to the rocketboom stable... but personal wishes aside, I still think it's more a case of stumbling across the...
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- alphaxion
Unlikely Suns Reveal Improbable Planets: Scientific American - http://www.scientificamerican.com/article...
Andy Tinkham, Kol Tregaskes, Baard @ Pixum and 4 other people liked this
Among the most poignant sights in the heavens are white dwarfs. Although they have a mass comparable to our sun’s, they are among the dimmest of all stars and becoming ever dimmer; they do not follow the usual pattern relating stellar mass to brightness. Astronomers think white dwarfs must not be stars so much as the corpses of stars. Each white dwarf was once much like our sun and shone with the same brilliance. But then it began to run out of fuel and entered its stormy death throes, swelling to 100 times its previous size and brightening 10,000-fold, before shedding its outer layers and shriveling to a glowing cinder the size of Earth. For the rest of eternity, it will sit inertly, slowly fading to blackness. As if this story were not gloomy enough, it gets worse. We and our colleagues have found more than a dozen white dwarfs in our galaxy that are orbited by asteroids, comets and perhaps even planets—entire graveyards of worlds. While the stars were still alive, they rose every...
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- RAPatton
"Astronomers generally detect planets indirectly, by virtue of their effects on the velocity, position or brightness of their host stars. For most of the cases discussed in the article, astronomers focus on one type of indirect sign: the presence of a disk of dust orbiting the star. A so-called protoplanetary disk occurs around newly born stars and is thought to be the site of planet...
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- RAPatton
WhatsApp - customize your contactability - http://www.whatsapp.com/
Gautam Guliani, jan koum, Andy Tinkham and Adewale Oshineye liked this
"a simple way to let your contacts know your status before they call you. Think of WhatsApp as a status indicator for your iPhone. This application allows users to communicate their status with each other. Dont make (or receive) any more poorly timed phone calls."
- Jeremy Zawodny
This seems like a great idea. All it's missing is a website to persist those status messages, a small group of Finnish developers (with a couple of non-Finnish guys on the team for balance) and perhaps S60 support
- Adewale Oshineye
Adewale: we are looking into S60 support right after we finish blackberry version
- jan koum
(Image) - http://wytukaze.soup.io/post... (via http://friendfeed.com/quantum...)
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Zoooooooooooom
- Simon Wicks
höhhöhöööööööytt :)))
- Mücahit Yılmaz
cooooooooooool
- irfan ÖZTÜRK
HOW did you post this animated gif?
- Brad Williamson
Now THAT is a racing snail.
- Jennifer Dittrich
The Neverending Storrrrrryyyyy.......... Zoom!
- Daynah
more than meets the eye? snails in disguise?
- chrisofspades
Haha that was great.
- Alp
I really hope they make a Pixar movie out of this. :)
- Daynah
Awesome work!!
- Praveen Vasudev
EPIC
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
woooooow!
- marika
Awesome!
- AJ Batac
Excellento!
- Chris Loft
Go turbo-snail!
- Rick Cogley
OH SNAP
- Alfredo
Haha! Nice.
- zephyrlily
haha! super snail!
- Michael
that's awesome!
- Brandon
epic
- Duncan Riley
Very cool! :-D
- Kol Tregaskes
lolol
- Caroline
Too funny :)
- Nir Ben Yona
One word: Upgrade.
- Bwana ☠
look at him goooooo
- ♥ Stephiepooos ♥
My son will love this.
- Hutch Carpenter
Brilliant!
- mlazopoulou
awesome!
- (jeff)isageek
How Ingenious!!
- Mike Andric
look at that escargot :)
- Stephanie Segel
Stephanie, Bwana - haha!
- Micah Wittman
Wow................................................
- Brucebot
I hope to one day see something like this happen in real life.
- Jon, the Chilled Beartato
yo, this snail's got this sh*t together! mad impressive.
- Freddie Benjamin
哈哈，鸟枪换大炮
- 阿石
Epic Snail!
- Berkin Bozdoğan
Bumping this again as this is class! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Fssssiiiiiihhhh... Vroaaaaarrrrrhhhhhhh....
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
Confirming that my kids loved this. 2 1/2 old Annika couldn't get enough of it.
- Hutch Carpenter
Swinging from Web to Web 2.0 !!!!!
- pierangelo carbone
Another bump, if a cat on a fax machine can get 685 likes here: http://ff.im/2dD0Q then this can get more! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Perhaps if you changed out the snail for a cute kitty
- Moved to Facebook
Ditto to all replies!
- Mark Harai
AWESOME! Next he'll go to Warp 5.
- Zach Flauaus
I'm to fear !
- Filiz Benera
I think some people should just stop crossposting all their stuff including @s and RTs to Facebook, it is pollution in most cases
Yant, Robert Scoble, Chad Harris and 26 other people liked this
I post ev ererything from FriendFeed to Twitter to FB. Keeps the followers to those who are interested
- Steve Gillmor
Oddly, no one has ever acknowledged the massive number of entries that Friendfeed pumps into my Facebook stream.
- Raphael, Raphael
Agree! Especially if u use @peoplebrowsr like me ;) really need to clean up the autopost mess. Wish somebody could invent some smart cross posting strategies and share their wisdom :)
- Jan Friman
from Nambu
I do it selectively, see http://www.jeffsandquist.com/synchro...
- Jeff Sandquist
I don't feed any of the SM stuff to facebook, waste of time, both for others and myself.
- Richard A.
Yeah, I'm with Gillmor, using FF as the primary tap into the SM hose. Figure it will eventually build brand and traffic back to FF.
- Thom Kennon
I agree with Loic and disagree with S.Gillmor, as much as I admire him, crossposting is broadcasting. Each of these services have their own flavor, a different set of friends. A different interaction is appropriate in each. It works best when we respect the differences and create unique exchanges on the various services we use.
- stephen harlow
Steve, problem is that you don't get the replies and FB comments so you don't really interact except on FF comments right?
- Loic Le Meur
Here's how I do it, Loic: http://www.slideshare.net/louisgr...
- Louis Gray
loic, I do get the replies via Twitterspy and FB comments via email. When track returns I'm all set
- Steve Gillmor
i don't mind getting stuff twice, makes it less likely i miss something
- Christopher Harris
What's Facebook?
- Richard Carter, FCD
@Richard Carter, FCD - I think it's something like this:- http://www.georgegroves.org.uk/photoal...
- Graham Steel
I found something very interesting. I posted almost nothing on Facebook for the past year, so I didn't lose any of my high quality followers (which include CEOs and big name press from across the tech industry). But then I tried putting friendfeed/Twitter in there and I started getting complaints, so I stopped it. I now post things specifically for my Facebook friends on Facebook and try to let everyone know that my main place of posting is friendfeed now.
- Robert Scoble
I'm still trying to find the optimal ratio of posting. The problem is there simply isn't enough technology to do what I want. I may write something if no one accomplishes what I need for this.
- Jesse Stay
I never used facebook extensively and like to keep my accounts separate. I think friendfeed is the most intelligent of all social web apps.
- ashish
Agreed. I've been more mindful of cross posting and never did it with my FB status.
- Mark Gehrke
I agree with Loic in cases where people use Twitter primarily as a tool for one to one or fragmented communications and the fact that he used "some people" and "most cases" leads me to believe some people don't fit the mold. I find myself being one of those. I currently cross-post >90% of my stuff to FF/FB/Twitter. That said, I consciously make an effort to put context in every one of my outbound messages & if something doesn't warrant cross-posting I don't do it.
- Mark Krynsky
A discreet compromise would be to use something like the Social RSS application in FB to show your routine Twitter traffic on a tab separate from your main page.
- Paul Robertson
When you get multiple duplicates of the same message on friendfeed because it's also posted to tumblr, thats the worst.
- Matt Robson
thank you all for your feedback. Looks like there are very different styles and the comments here are mostly from friendfeed lovers (which I understand why they like it), very different pattern from what I see from non friendfeed users though
- Loic Le Meur
and your point?
- Steve Gillmor
Have you seen Jimmy Fallon's dupes, he needs to get his PA on it ASAP it's the social media equivalent of stuttering
- sofarsoShawn
I had some problems with duplicate posting at first, but once I figured it out, it's been fine. FF is my principal gazinta, and it aggregatges all my gazoutas, but it doesn't multipost. That said, I try to keep the signal to bullshit ratio high....
- Alan Chamberlain
I like to be able to select (from FF0 what goes to FB like we can with Twitter.
- Kol Tregaskes
Loic 1 Gillmor 0 Let's keep them channels separate, they will find you if they love you. I love your Gillmor Gang however Steve! That's a sweet channel everyone should check out.
- Chad Harris
Araceli: How did you set that up?
- Garin Kilpatrick
Twitter should not be fed directly into Facebook in most cases, FB and Twitter are two completely different animals. Despite this bringing Facebook to Twitter is okay. The @replies are what pollutes the Twitter/FB Integration.
- Garin Kilpatrick
I agree with Loic and Scoble. Facebook is more real life friends and I share more personal and less techy stuff. Twitter is sort of like my id. Although now I'm giving friendfeed a go for a week so I may be making the switch full time. But, for the most part, I consider friendfeed and twitter to be the same result by different means. For me though, it remains to be seen which means I like better.
- James Poling
Garin: I use http://apps.facebook.com/twitter... to publish Twitter to Facebook. It doesn't post @s. For notifications I bring in this RSS as an imaginary friend for Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/notific... and for Twitter this one: http://twitter.com/replies
- Araceli
Fabulous piece: The importance of stupidity in scientific research http://jcs.biologists.org/cgi... via Simon St Laurent on O'Reilly editors backchannel
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Much of what the author says can be pushed down to the baccalaureate level, too. The linear learning provided by textbooks and lectures rewards rote learners and obscures the true nature of learning/creating science and mathematics. We need more high-quality undergraduate research experiences, inquiry-based and problem-based learning, and other pedagogies that teach creativity and allow young people to embrace being in the state of not-yet-understanding.
- Jason Miller
Is it ignorance and lack of knowledge more than stupidity? Tracking down answers to what we don't know can be a great adventure, even if we don't find exactly what we are looking for or nothing at all. In PR, the most successful creative sessions start with looking at what's there, then the flip side: what's not there. The quest begins. Very fun, energizing and usually successful in finding new ideas and new combinations that can solve a creative challenge.
- Tom Gable
"Life is a great bundle of little things" - http://googlereader.blogspot.com/2009...
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- Jenna Bilotta
I think it's much more important to follow a small group of people that you're really paying attention to, says Tim O'Reilly #TwitterBook
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This is exactly true, but is why I use friendfeed so that I can use groups. That lets me follow @timoreilly's advice.
- Robert Scoble
Groups and search are the best way to get rid of the noise. Following too few people will cause you to miss out on stuff. It's best just to have the stuff you want come to you - I guess in that regard you could say I follow millions.
- Jesse Stay
I think it's funny we're commenting about this over on FriendFeed. I wonder if they'll have more comments over here than on Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
I completely agree.The rules of play are the same on the internet as in the real world-people need real, genuine connections.
- Claudia Hall Christian
I agree with Robert, I also manage my following in friendfeed.
- Jacob
I'm learning from you experts, and have started using FriendFeed, too.
- Doug Millison
55+ Extremely Useful Online Generators for Designers - http://www.balkhis.com/web-des...
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“The thing is, it’s very dangerous to have a fixed idea. A person with a fixed idea will always find some way of convincing himself in the end that he is right.” - Atle Selberg, winner of the 1950 Fields Medal
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I wonder how sure he was of that.
- Simon
Wasn't he talking of religion in general, and belief in supernatural in particular? Myself, I am partial to the concept of religion as a self-replicating and very nearly ineradicable thought virus (with some exceptions).
- ianf ⌘
ianf -- secularists and atheists are fully capable of holding fixed ideas that are as absurd and destructive as those held by religionists. Marxists, Marxist-Lenininsts, Trotskyites, Stalinists, Maoists, etc. murdered in the neighborhood of 100 million people in the 20th century in the pursuit of utopian fantasies. (See The Black Book of Communism.)
- Sean McBride
I have no idea what he was talking about -- it's not important to me. I just liked the quote. I think it applies to everything, including religion, atheism, politics, technology, finance, etc.
- Paul Buchheit
I have a fixed idea that friendfeed rocks. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Sean - did you see me write that, so you needed to set me straight (again)? Besides, had I elected to engage in this discussion, I'd have pointed out from the start, that your "godless" examples of Communism (and Fascism, I presume) can just as easily be described as new religions. Complete with their own belief dogmas, foundation myths, theology, cathecisms (="A FAQ of religious...
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- ianf ⌘
ianf -- these Marxist movements were all explicitly anti-religious, and in many cases targeted religions for destruction (and religionists for death). To describe them as "religious" in any conventional or meaningful sense is to play word games. They were militantly dogmatic in their secularism and anti-religionism, in their fixed anti-religious ideas.
- Sean McBride
It seems clear to me that "religious" has two (related) meanings. It's common to describe a technical debate (such as one involving programming languages) as being "religious", but without literally meaning that it's the same as an Christianity or something.
- Paul Buchheit
Usually it means that the discussion is over non-falsifiable statements or matters of opinion that won't lead to anything useful.
- Bruce Lewis
really good context of the quote can be found here: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v26... Selberg was talking about fellow mathematician Louis de Branges, who had a reputation for being consistently wrong. In 1985 de Branges announced he had proved the Bieberbach Conjecture, and nobody paid any attention to it because it was from de Branges. Only, in this case, de Branges happened to be correct. :-)
- Karim
i'm not sure if Selberg was saying that de Branges was often wrong because he was seduced by the attractiveness of his own "fixed ideas" -- proofs that de Branges felt were correct when they weren't -- or whether it was a comment on the mathematical community rejecting de Branges' ideas outright because of *their* "fixed idea" that he was a nutcase. :-) either way, the lesson would seem to be, "Don't be so sure of yourself."
- Karim
oh and +1 Simon
- Karim
Hear, hear (Sean ;-))
- ianf ⌘
Isn't that the truth
- RAPatton
Life is a constant work in-progress!
- Kris
@Kris: are we sure of that? Like a fixed idea? </resist>
- Bill Anderson
from twhirl
unless your fixed idea is that we should legalize marijuana, in which case then it's cool.
- Thomas Hawk
Know and Master Your Social Media Data Flow - louisgray.com - http://www.louisgray.com/live...
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I did this some 7 month ago and it is still mostly true http://blog.kohlhofer.com/post...
- Alexander Kohlhofer
All my networks are in FriendFeed except for FB and LinkedIn, which I prefer to keep private. I installed the Twitter FB app, but it's only for displaying my current Tweet in my Boxes tab and is otherwise unconnected to my FB profile. I use FriendFeed's embedding tool + the MyBox Facebook app to display my last 5 FF posts in my Boxes tab.
- LANjackal
It's interesting that you're in all, or practically all, major social networks (of Western-Hemispherean origin)... what exactly are you getting out of what by necessity must be a very chaotic "surface-scratching" experience of actual friends and strangers? Asks someone who's participating only in the FF, and (barely) Twitter - used mostly for cross-network reference purposes.
- ianf ⌘
Easy just make friend feed the centre of the universe!! I love it great way for me to see all my activity in one place. I also like to keep facebook separate thought
- Andy
@ianf: FriendFeed's mostly about importing what YOU do on your various networks, not what your friends do (although you can use it for that purpose too). Therefore whatever my friends on various networks are up to generally has no effect on what I see here, unless I deliberately subscribe to them here.
- LANjackal
I know all that, but I'm trying to get to the core of what I see as main problem with social networks as such, not any specific one - that the more one participates in them (or, by extension, on the web@large), the less time there is for really immersive experience on any of them (immersive however one wants to define it, though I tend to think of it as a lasting sense of time put to...
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- ianf ⌘
It looks like FriendFeed is the center of the universe, doesn't it? It, and RSS, push everything, with the exception of Tweets that come back here.
- Louis Gray
I thought rss was dead? :P
- Stanislas Jourdan
Space Shuttle Atlantis caught in silhouette against the Sun - http://blog.rocketboom.com/post...
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A Chill to Scotch Purists' Hearts - WSJ.com - http://online.wsj.com/article...
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"Richard Paterson -- renowned whisky blender with Scotland's Whyte & Mackay Ltd., home of such single malts as the Dalmore and Isle of Jura -- has come to dread ordering whisky in America: "Ask for Scotch in the U.S. and before you know it you hear that horrible clink, clink, clink of ice going in the glass," he says in a voice that's two parts exasperation and one part burr. "As far as I'm concerned," says Mr. Paterson, "if you've got a nice 12-year-old Scotch whisky, there's nothing more ridiculous than putting ice in it." Mr. Paterson is hardly the only whisky purist to rail against the pernicious effects of ice in Scotch. Kevin Erskine, who writes about whisky at theScotchBlog.com, says that when drinking Scotch neat "I may add varying amounts of water depending on the whisky, the weather and my mood -- but never an ice cube." But it is Mr. Paterson who, in the Scotch tasting seminars he hosts around the world, expresses his aversion to the practice by flinging a bucket of ice...
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- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
I never understood the ice thing, even in American whiskeys: I'm pretty sure it's exclusively due to people seeing it in movies and TV. If you're dealing with a bartender that doesn't understand how to serve a whiskey, ask for it served neat or with a splash of water. There's some merit to the smoothness argument, but in that case, chill the whiskey or chill the water, don't add ice....
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- Mark Trapp
Have to agree. Nothing worse than icy scotch.
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
if you're dumping stuff in FriendFeed but not responding, you're missing out on great extended conversations.
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Many people are caught in the broadcast paradigm. If you have something worth broadcasting about makes sense. The problem is that most broadcasters have nothing worth paying attention to.
- Brian Sullivan
@Brian - i think that you also have to hit on something that is worth talking about. Maybe 1 in 100 posts I make gets a like/comment. Lets me know what is important right now. Keeps things interesting though, the FF environment is very dynamic, how do you know to post something that will catch people's attention?
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
When I post something, it's because I find it interesting. If no one else does, so be it. I'm not here for the mainstream. I'm here to find the things I didn't know even existed.
- CAJ, somewhere else
I've noticed lots of people sign up, hookup their Twitter account, then never come back. So comments just run off without them.
- William Kapes
Yes, I agree conversation if the best part of FF
- Asankhaya Sharma
Still : if comments were better formatted, friendfeed-based conversation would definitely rock. For now, we'll have to make our comments short enough to keep them readable.
- Zackatoustra
Zackatoustra: I agree with that.
- Thom Allen
I so completely agree with this. One dimensional FF is so unsatisfying.
- Martha
Not on my stuff.
- Chris Nixon
from BuddyFeed
So how do I get comments out of FriendFeed? There doesn't appear to be an RSS feed for FF items. If there is not way to get them out I'm not interested in dumping more content into yet another walled garden.
- Joseph Scott
Joseph Scott: you want only comments rss? not sure about that, but there is a feed for your posts which includes your comments.
- Thom Allen
I see people do this all the time. I subscribe to them here because I don't follow many on Twitter. I'll "Like" something or comment and they won't respond because they'll never see it -- and meanwhile some probably are offended that I'm not Twitter-following em. Well um, I SEE YOU HERE JUST FINE. How about you participate on FF also?! That is all. End ramble.
- Tamar Weinberg
Joseph, click the e-mail/im link in the upper-right of your my discussions page. You can have it go to IM/E-mail, and I think RSS. If not, each page on FriendFeed has its own RSS feed. That will give you the posts as well as the comments, but not sure there's a way around that. I just send all the posts I comment on or that I post to my e-mail.
- Jesse Stay
I should add that you can't do that with Twitter, and chances are your friends that are active on Twitter are also on FriendFeed now.
- Jesse Stay
I don't understand why someone would not interact over here - if someone wants to do that, they can just stay on twitter where people don't generally interact ... I'm glad if anyone even "likes" anything I have over here...
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Thom Allen, riddle me this: if you want to banter, then why the empty FF profile?
- Karma Martell
+1 Karma! Thom, you're only asking for abuse when ask these kinds of meta-questions ;)
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
I am liking this in part, for the typo "FriedFeed". LOL!
- nakachi
Steve: you're actually slamming me? for what? I noticed a lot of people I follow on Twitter also dump many of their feeds here, but never respond to comments made. I was merely pointing out they are missing out on continued conversation. This wasn't an attention grabber for me. Sorry you have to feel like this.
- Thom Allen
Karma: oh you've got to do better than that. not a +1
- Thom Allen
FWIW, Thom, I have all my Twitter people (the ones who only feed in stuff from Twitter) in their own group, so I have to actively choose to see the Twitter only stream. The FF heavy people tend to be more active commenters and that is the feed I pay the most attention to.
- Martha
I know tube tops are in this summer, but I can't do it. Too much anxiety that a boobie bandit will do run by and yank it down. A "pull-by"?
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Why did I become a librarian when I could've become a boobie bandit? My college advisor totally held out on me with that info!
- josh neff, geek at large
- not a fan of tube tops. Just does not flatter anyone. Too many foul images from my youth as well. :/
- JA Castillo
You know, I have always wondered why women aren't ALWAYS afraid of that!!! hilarious.
- Debo
is it ok to do that?
- wowfreeze.blogspot.com
I agree with JA on this one: I've not seen one that looked really great on anyone.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
+1 Starbuck, LOL!
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Also, tubetops aren't all that attractive. They tend to look skanky at the best of times. If I were a girl, I'd avoid wearing them.
- Chris, Taskerrific Guy
Hmm, 'tube tops', bandeau, strapless tops are pretty much the only type of casual top I own. Not once in 30 years have I had a boobie bandit problem.
- Jess
Seems like people who wear them are always yanking them up as they start to droop. Who needs boobie bandits when they fall down on their own?
- Jen (SquirrelGirl)
hehe boobie bandit
- (jeff)isageek
Tube tops are made of pure titillation power. Why? Because they might droop down or the boobie bandit might appear. Even if they aren't flattering the figure and cover more skin than an equivalent properly secured top. OTOH, even though a sizable chunk of tube top viewers wish they could be the boobie bandit, there's a thing called self control that even impulsive folks have some...
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- Wirehead
( I don't have too strong of opinions in reality on the subject, I was just looking for an excuse to use terms like "boobie bandit" )
- Wirehead
Heh heh. You said "titillation."
- josh neff, geek at large
According to 30 Rock, that is called "Sharking".. I have no idea why.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
LOL and if you wore sweats you could be "pantsed" so wear jeans with tight belt.. ;o)
- David Gross
I could never wear one or even just a strappy top. I feel so exposed :( Wish I were free enough to wear them. :p
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
Wow that has been the first time I used my imagination today!! Thank you felicia :)
- Lokei Atikus™®
I've created too many friend lists in FriendFeed - any tips on how to simplify the lists? Do most of you put the majority of people into your "home" feed??
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I do ... but I am horribly disorganized.
- Robert Couture
I put everybody in the home list just because I don't want to have to click through several different lists to see the latest entries/items.
- Brett Kelly
I have everybody in my home feed (but I hide a whole bunch of services). If I am paying attention I see stuff -- if not it will either pop up later if it is important or it flows down the drain. I think the only reason for having people on a list is if there are a few individuals whose content you do not want to miss so that you can potentially come back later and look through a smaller...
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- Brian Sullivan
One methodology... 3 lists: Home, Acquaintance, Everyone. Home: who you want to see most of the time. Acquaintance: not on Home feed yet, but could graduate to it at some point; check periodically. Everyone: all subscriptions.
- Micah Wittman
The easiest way would be to convince the FF team to add a keyboard shortcut: hit 'g' then 'l' to display a popup for selecting a list to go to (similar to the "go to label" Gmail labs feature).
- Jérôme Flipo
I want to keep all my friends but some of them post/like/comment so heavily (as I do myself) that I have to take them out of my home feed. Anyone who comes up with a way to deal with this issue deserves a big fat medal.
- Isha (Marysia)
Here my list of main lists: family, friends (IRL), community (famous FFers), stuff (art, misc), [important] (a best of, I use brackets to make sure the list remains at the top), tech (tech bloggers), news (traditional media), temp (for subs I'm not sure I'll keep or how to list).
- Jérôme Flipo
My Home feed has important, friends, family and few subs with low SNR.
- Jérôme Flipo
simplify them on what these people mean to you.
- Amy Dodd
i'm lazy and put everything in the home feeds, even my rooms get sent there - works for me, scroll a tons tho
- Monique
Everyone's in my Home feed, then additionally people I follow on Twitter are also in a 'Twitterers' list (mainly so I can see how active they've become on FriendFeed).
- Martin Bryant
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