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FriendFeed is a lot nicer now that the idiots have left. :-)
Sean Alexander, guruvan (Rob Nelson), Sean Kelly and 69 other people liked this
Scoble said it right :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
Or maybe I finally got around to blocking all of them. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Note: I did not send this over to Twitter. It would encourage them.
- Robert Scoble
wrong. I'm still here!
- Jim the Blatant
:)
- Edgar Rodríguez
Why don't you invite some more over here Robert.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Jimminy: nah. it's really nice here lately. Very quiet, can get a lot done.
- Robert Scoble
Snap Jim, I was gonna say that!
- Mellissa
Jim and Mellissa: you two aren't idiots. Proof? I haven't blocked you yet. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Most likely you have blocked the idiots, because I know some are still around *grin*
- Rene, Pro Button Pusher
Wow, I must not be an idiot either. Perhaps there is hope for me yet.
- Brent - Yes I am
WWGD ?
- Desirade
... must ... resist... commenting.
- Louis Gray
Too bad for you scoble. I am still here ;)
- alfred westerveld
DO ANYBODY NO HOW TO TELL IF SCOBLE IS BLOCKING YOU?
- Gunnybear ™
...tongue ... bleeding...
- Josh Haley
Ya what is he talking about, im still here too!
- sean percival
That does actually make up for the sense of benign neglect I seem to feel from the FF developers. Excellent observation, Robert.
- Mark Edwards
And the 2009 Gold Medal for Comment Baiting, Freestyle, goes to Robert Scoble from the American team. ;)
- John Craft
If we only could say this here.
- Slow
John: thank you, thank you very much! You crack me up.
- Robert Scoble
Who are those idiots? name them ;)
- Jeunelle Foster
I'm still here as well. Barely alive, but still here. (ok maybe a bit of an exaggeration)
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Home sweeeet home :)
- Johni Fisher
good to see
- Jerry Perez
It's good to know I'm not an idiot. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Oh, so that was the master plan? 1. Declare friendfeed dead 2. Idiots leave. 3. Enjoy the good stuff without them around any more.
- April
April, that's not a bad plan actually. Finally Robert's master plan is becoming clear ;)
- Glenn Slaven
April: bbbbwwwwaaaahhhhhhhaaaaahhhhhhaaaaaaa. Said while rubbing hands together in evil fashion.
- Robert Scoble
Keith: I never left. I've been here almost every day since July. I have reduced the number of hours I spend here from about 10 to 10 minutes, though. :-)
- Robert Scoble
a good ten minutes..............
- Alzheimer's Disease
I'm trying to work out if I should bite my tongue or just open mouth/insert foot...
- George Hall (Australia)
George: insert foot!
- Robert Scoble
George: wash it first!
- April
I must say I'm very disappointed the entire world beat me to the "I'm still here" joke. <sigh>
- David Gaw
Wrong Robert! I'm still here! (but keeping tucked away in the background to fool you....)
- Technogran
Finally, Louis Gray GONE! :)
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
Yeah yeah, Shawn.
- Louis Gray
Louis is still here?
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Just JOkkkkkking, you know I <3 you LG =;o)
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
I'M BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111eleven
- Jim Norris
great to see you back here at friendfeed.. it's still rocking in it's own way.. welcome back and great new year
- Jaap Willem
I've found even if they're not idiots there are some times people that are just so negative or draining you have to block them, at least for a short period. I wish there was a way to do that which wasn't offensive.
- Jesse Stay
Hey Jessie - was hangin' with Damon today and your name came up. Damon ROCKS MY SOCKS.
- Mona Nomura
@jessethey should get indeed like a mute button for 30 days or something??
- Jaap Willem
from IM
Nice to see you still here, Robert. Hope the wife and kids are well.
- Martha
what idiots?
- ffcode
me? or the meme guys? things are the same here best of the day doesn't look promising still
- ffcode
either that or they've blocked you - something you could have done to them... blocking is one of FF's superior features
- Chris Heath
That's great right !
- ★ Soner Gönül
I think I'll up my time allotment too. It seems like a good use.
- DGentry
from Android
Scoble isn't blocking me. Dave Winer is though. I'm honestly not sure how to feel about that. :)
- Otto
Is it a badge of honor to be blocked?
- DGentry
Mona, Damon rocks my socks as well - have you met Marina Martin yet? She's one of my favorite Seattle peeps.
- Jesse Stay
Jaap, a mute button would be nice, something less harsh sounding than "Block" - maybe a "you're grounded" button?
- Jesse Stay
thats right!
- Rafael
Jesse - I totally like the "you're grounded" button concept!
- Robyn Hawk
Interesting observation
- polou/indigo_bow
They are still around Dear
- lalitmawkin
Found Another Reason I Don't Like Twitter: I reeeeeeeeeally enjoy correct sentence structure... My parents didn't drop a serious amount of coin on English tutors for me to kafutz in 140 characters. Spending 5 minutes rewriting two sentences because you're 3 characters over sucks balls...
Jokin Lacalle, Martha, Glenn Slaven and 27 other people liked this
We share exactly the same feelings about Twitter.
- Tom Awtry
I mostly agree, but to play devil's advocate, I would say you could improve your skills by attempting to create a coherent statement in 140 characters. And I mean a statement with out IM type abbreviations, and stuff like that.
- Michelle M
Fair enough, Johnny.
- Michelle M
from iPod
Text messages were limited to 140 characters. Twitter was built to utilize the SMS structure. It has evolved since that time, but the limit remained.
- Heather Solos
The SMS limit is actually 160 7-bit characters, as specified in GSM 3.40 back in 1985. Twitter reserves 20 characters for your name. Many if not most phones support more now e.g. splitting longer text into multiple messages, but I think if you want to maintain compatibility with *everything* that uses SMS, you have to stick to 160.
- Ken Sheppardson
140 character limit is rubbish. Thank goodness for FriendFeed! :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
I actually enjoy the challenge of having to prune down a thought into grammatically correct sentences for Twitter. It's like writing a haiku.
- Akiva
+1 Akiva. It's fun trying to find just the right words and structure to say what I want to say succinctly enough for Twitter. When I really, really can't, then I switch to FriendFeed. But Twitter makes you focus on what's really important about what you want to say. If I taught composition, I'd use Twitter in my curriculum.
- Jandy
As if our vocabulary wasn't atrocious enough?? You have to wonder?
- Angels In Action
Agree with Akiva and Jandy - I initially deplored Twitter but I've found that it requires me to find the exact right words. I have to remember that I can't use adjectives or adverbs. I have occasionally resorted to abbreviations, but mostly I've learned to prune. If I want to be more wordy, I use FF.
- Lis
Why I don't use Google Reader anymore - http://scobleizer.posterous.com/why-i-d...
Susan Beebe, Angels In Action, John Tastad and 22 other people liked this
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- Robert Scoble
from Posterous
İnteresting..! I think Google Reader is very usefull app
- ★ Soner Gönül
Can't wait to get the Lists feature enabled! Very good post!
- Gerardo Capetillo
Adopting Twitter for news reading is a huge commitment to read instantly all news (bc they don't archive, right?). It's insane ... But yes gReader is too heavy.
- N.G. Gordon - RadarSync
from iPod
I just don't understand how you process all those tweets per day. I'm sure lists make it easier. Personally, I like the static nature of Google Reader because I can quickly scan folders by date-time or feed and then mark things with a star if I want to read them later, quick notes on shared items, etc. And of course all the shared stories post here on FriendFeed then Twitter. Normally I keep FF up all day but just began with threadsy and I confess it's got me looking at my Twitter stream MUCH more.
- Ankush Narula
What about using feedly, Robert??
- Roberto Bonini
but even on twitter you must be missing things
- ffcode
funny... cause i still read your blogs in reader... its got its place... tracking rss feeds from youtube, photography sites etc etc etc... if people want to follow what you write, you should not have to write your blog AND post the link to twitter... redundant! and will make twitter even noiser! why not let people pull at their leisure... the two things are for different times of the...
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- simran
i am still wondering how can you read so many tweets and then those links to articles wow
- ffcode
Robert, my favourite news reader, NetNewsWire started using Google Reader for synchronization and it's a failure. I now get most of my news via FriendFeed and Twitter.
- Khürt Williams
Re Point 8. Check out "RSS Flash G" iPhone GoogleReader App. It lets you share, from iPhone, like a good thing, supports FaceBook, Twitter, Delicious, Instapaper and of course all googlereader sharing facilities are there too. These are two entirely different methods of discovery they both have their uses. But sharing from GoogleReader on the iPhone is EASY so I hope that takes care of point number 8.
- JSLeFanu
ffcode: actually on Twitter I miss very little. Why? Retweets and repetition. And, we always have TechMeme as the big net!
- Robert Scoble
I just got Lists so i haven't had a chance to really get to grips with it, but I think the problem Robert is that you're trying to apply your usage cases to everyone else. I use Reader in a different way to the way I use Twitter. Just like I use FriendFeed differently to Twitter or Reader.
- Eoghann Irving
I guess if you are recycling tweets don't need GReader, if you are munging petabytes via Yahoo Pipes, than GReader will pull stuff fresh off the press
- Robert Higgins
Eoghann: over and over in my career I've been told that I'm not like everyone else, but then everyone else behaves like me only about a year later. So, see ya next year!
- Robert Scoble
Robert: ahh, yeah, I guess Yahoo Pipes is one thing that might keep me on Google Reader -- if I used it. I'm going to delete everyone on my Google Reader account and start over. It's so freaking slow that it's totally useless, even for the few things I could see some utility for.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it doesn't *always* happen like that. Sometimes it's two years. :-)
- Bruce Lewis
Robert, that's a silly argument. If you make enough predictions (and you make them daily). You will of course sometimes be right. But you are not always right. FriendFeed?
- Eoghann Irving
Eoghann: I was right about FriendFeed. It's just that Twitter and Facebook are now going to turn into FriendFeed. Just watch. Twitter's new RT feature looks a LOT like FriendFeed's likes.
- Robert Scoble
Eoghann: but I get where you're going. By the way, 50,000+ followed me here. So, something about FriendFeed was interesting enough to sign into it.
- Robert Scoble
well, you certainly helped make it interesting. But at first, I didn't really understand it's value proposition vis-a-vis Facebook. And now, with things like ping.fm, is it's value really that much? Not sure - I mainly use it for the tray functionality so I can keep up with you, Mrinal, and Danny. Otherwise, I'd completely get behind your posts.
- Arthur Coleman
Arthur: FriendFeed's value is static, while the others are rolling out new features. So, for me, it's better to bet on Facebook or Twitter. But FriendFeed will be better for things like live conversations or real time search for quite some time.
- Robert Scoble
I love FriendFeed. But I don't recommend it to everyone else. For a lot of my offline friends Facebook is a better fit. Again I come back to the fact it's not one size fits all.
- Eoghann Irving
I prefer accessing Google Reader via feedly.
- Nils Sandin
Well I tend to miss many important things on twitter.. not my fault. .. time zones differ and so do the times articles are published and linked on twitter ... On my google reader they always stay .. i can check them when i want .. so twitter better than GR? .. yes for breaking news .. not for general articles ..
- Amit
Amit: on Twitter they always stay too. It's just that Twitter has a lot more flow. But now with lists you can cut down the flow.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: I agree they stay. but it is not difficult to lose them in all the tweet flow. i know lists allows you to cut down the flow, but not if lists has many twitters added to it. I want to read what you write more than what you share and I do not want to miss those articles. Google Reader will always remain my first preference for that..
- Amit
Google Reader certainly is trying to become more social, but for me too the experience is an awful lot like keeping up with email - needs daily management, pruning, to get information out of it. I freak out thinking I've missed an article, therefore dread trying to keep up with reader. I get that using Twitter makes news reading about the here and now, and frankly if it's important it will be tweeted for days to come. I think the notion of getting news from Twitter is a good one, particularly with lists.
- Mark Aitken
And for the record, I'm keeping off Wave until it feels less like email too. Currently it's a very messy and exhausting experience to use.
- Mark Aitken
Twitter with Lists has become my defacto RSS reader.
- Rubin
Just opened my co twitter account & was invited to "create list", I like the way you have broken it down!! I might just organize mine this way, to also include, clean energy, smartgrid, energy management etc. Thanks for a great post!!
- John Tastad
Amit: again, if you use lists you DO NOT HAVE TWEET FLOW!!! How can I make you guys understand this? Make a list with five people on it. Your flow will go to nothing.
- Robert Scoble
still waiting on lists... am not in love with GR... folder heirachy and speed drive me nuts...
- andy
Got list!! It's gonna make organizing specific followers by categories so much better and following specific tweets easier!! Customized information at your finger tips..
- Angels In Action
Is your issue against google reader or rss feed readers in general? I find my rss reader is an invaluable resource to get great information
- Pavan
I think it depends where on the wave of info you want to be. I want to create it, others will ride it. I find the stories with tools in addition to reader, then distribute them via Twitter, Facebook, etc. Hopefully, first then others on those social services will find them interesting and talk about them, distribute them and retweet them. If your content with the crowd being a filter for you, I think your right on.
- Andrew Acomb
from iPhone
Robert I just the funny thing you do not like anything Google does this days, I am actually starting to wonder if you are Anti them. First you hate Google Wav even though their are not enough people on in yet to make it worthwhile and now Reader. I really wonder sometimes.
- Rob Cairns
this is totally off the subject, but i have been noticing more and more heavy hitters on Posterous: is there something i'm missing....i just don't know if i can keep up with yet another social networking site, but am i missing out?
- Steve Borgman
Someone please wake me up when people stop grafting their hopes and dreams on Posterous, a me-too blogging tool with some novel shortcuts to author.
- Carter ♥ HTML5
Why yes it's 3:05pm EST and I am on my couch drinking beer. CANCER FREE, BITCHEZ!!!!!!!!
tehKenny, Cliff, Lynda Dmoch and 98 other people liked this
HELLZ YEAH!!!
- Nikki D.
YEAYYYYYY
- Shevonne
YAY!!!!!
- Spidra Webster
Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Katy S
*swipes hand across forehead in relief* This is great news, MC.
- Rochelle Rochelle
woohoo!!!
- ~Courtney F.
HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wonderful
- Hedgehog
awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wonderful news
- Sir Shuping is just sir
HELLZ TO THE YEAH!
- holly #ravingfangirl
Hooray!
- John (bird whisperer)
Yay!!!!!!
- Rachel Walden
awesome!!!!! have one for me.
- Dave Free
YEAH BEER! Oh, and the other thing too. (Whew!)
- Steve Beeblebrox
WOOHOO!!!!
- lris
KICKAZZ!!!!
- JA Castillo
HoooooRay! Have a beer for me :D
- Shannon - GlassMistress
thanks y'all. i may have also opened the halloween candy....
- Mary Carmen
HELLLLL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
- EBJT
Beer + Halloween candy = barfing without the cancer treatment.
- Steve Beeblebrox
Im gonna try to keep the barfing to a minimum
- Mary Carmen
Woo-hoo!!!
- Betsy
Great news!
- Anika
Congrats. Cheers. *raises a quality keg*
- Julian
*CHEERS* I'll have a beer with you! That's awesome!
- tab
beer? break out champagne!
- Ken Gidley
w00t!
- Steven Perez
YYYyaaaayyyy!!!
- hollyrae
YES!!! :D
- Joe Silence
:D DYSP! Er - I mean - YESSSSSSSSS!
- WoH: Minding her Steves
sweet bippy!!!!
- jambina
Yay!
- adf
congrats
- Marissa
Wooooooooo to the motherflippin' HOOOOOOOOOO!!!! (and *nosetaps* from the kittehz)
- vicster
I cannot like this any more than I do. So happy for you MC.
- ♫410 I Coach 'em Up♫
Thanks, y'all. Mo, we need a LOVE button.
- Mary Carmen
+1 for need of "love" button, & congrads
- chaz2b
Wooo! Woooo!
- Stephen Francoeur
HURRAY!!!
- Jennifer Dittrich
Awesome!
- Jason (not an Argonaut)
Cool. Really cool.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
WOOHOOOOO!!!!!
- Just Katie
That's my girlfriend! Hell yeah, bitch. You are the fucking winner at life, you hear me? AT LIFE! Keep that shit up and many, many fantastic shoes will be only a portion of your reward. <3 <3 <3
- Ms. Nakachi
from fftogo
RAWK!!!!
- LB is Li'l Roo.
Nakachi, you just made me smile SO BIG!!!!!!
- Mary Carmen
*smooches*
- Ms. Nakachi
Booyah!
- Louis Simoneau
Awesome!
- Michelle M
see cancer free really is sexy *cheers* love ;)
- Scott(Moo bitches!)
Yay! And Griffey actually cheered. :)
- Jenica
Tell Griffey I said, "HAI!"
- Mary Carmen
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA..... *takes deep breath*.... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
- MoTO Gutter Bumbershoot
yay!!!
- Katie
kızz elekçi, markası ne o biranın yoksa ülker maltana mı :D
- Şafak Otur
Barry, are you excited????? PARTY TIME!
- Mary Carmen
\m/ >.< \m/
- Johnny
*swoons at being one of MC's bitchez*
- MoTO Gutter Bumbershoot
I'M GOING TO BE LATE FOR THE WAIF'S PIANO LESSON FOR CELEBRATING!!!!! CATCH Y'ALL IN A MINNIT.... *dashes like a sumbitch*
- MoTO Gutter Bumbershoot
Great news. Drinking one to your continued health.
- Kyle Hebert
Send me a beer :-)
- ★ Soner Gönül
OMG! That is fantastic! That is the best news I've heard since Reed was born! Doing a happy dance around my office now.
- Meredith
great news. :-)
- Stephanie•CogSciLibrarian
WOOT!!!
- Mary Carmen
I like the way my masked mexican wrestlers painting looks in the background.
- Mary Carmen
I like your scarf. That color is fantastico.
- Ayşe E.
Woo to the mudderfuggin Hoo! That's awesome to hear! I'll raise a frosty beverage in you honor as soon as I get home!
- Morgan
It's definitely Miller time. Woot!
- Rahsheen the Dream
Thanks, y'all. KEGGER!!!!!!!!
- Mary Carmen
I should have said: QUICK! BRING ME A MAN TO KISS!!!
- Mary Carmen
Like the call made to Moe's Tavern....'Hey Fellas! I'm looking for Amanda Hugginkiss!"
- Morgan
A MAN DA HUG N KISS
- Mary Carmen
Awesome post :)
- Nicholas Kreidberg
Congratulations!
- Amy℠
*hugh five* Sean
- Mary Carmen
It makes me very happy that when cancer darkens her door, Mary assrapes it and sends it home crying. It's a Machiavellian way to do battle. #nomercyforcancer
- ωαřмaiden ☆Team O'Otto☆
Yes!
- Eric - Feed of Dreams
Word.
- Greg Schwartz
Let's put on our man-trapping outfits and hit the streets, sugar.
- Derrick
The pictorial would be scandalous!!!!
- MoTO Gutter Bumbershoot
Ooooo, D. LETS GO!!!!!!
- Mary Carmen
I can't wait to see the HOT shoes!
- Katy S
SCANDALOUS!!!!!!!!!
- MoTO Gutter Bumbershoot
WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO!!!
- Que Sarah Sarah
That's the best news I've heard all day!
- Ha3rvey (F please!)
Thanks, y'all. I have had half a bottle of wine in celebration and now I would like to make with the smooching!
- Mary Carmen
sorry for the tardy "HELLZ YA!" - but ... HELLZ YA!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
*calls for stunt double... no non-Mrs. Schmoopy smooching allowed*
- MoTO Gutter Bumbershoot
Barry, If I don't get real dimples, I don't want 'em!
- Mary Carmen
*queues up in Barry's place*
- Steven Perez
from IM
*le sigh*
- MoTO Gutter Bumbershoot
HELLZ YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Mellissa
*happy dance* WOOO!
- Carmen
YAY!
- Tracy Benham
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woooooooo hooooooooooooo!
- βℜ∀ñÐi
Awesome!
- Lynda Dmoch
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Kol Tregaskes, Angels In Action, Stephan Planken and 3 other people liked this
thanks MF for nice refreshing images
- ffcode
Gorgeous view!!!! Thanks for sharing & making my day!!!
- Angels In Action
There was a lot of chatter about the future of FriendFeed this weekend. The short answer is that the team is working on a couple of longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world. Transformation is not the end. Consider this the chrysalis stage -- if all goes well, a beautiful butterfly will emerge :)
WoH: Minding her Steves, BRҰANSAҰS, Jeff (Team マクダジ ) and 226 other people liked this
What is transforming... FriendFeed, or the idea of FriendFeed?
- Christopher Galtenberg
Thanks for the update, Paul!
- Anne Bouey
THANK YOU!
- tehKenny
Fabulous News :)
- Susan Beebe
Noticed the "leaked" Facebook UI screenshots and the groups blog post today, and both seem FriendFeed inspired: nice to see Facebook trying to bring the stuff we like about FriendFeed to a larger audience.
- Mark Trapp
To Robert Scoble: I told you so ;-)
- Jesse Stay
Mark - got link?
- Susan Beebe
Thanks Paul :)
- Ashish
Paul, FriendFeed rocks as Gmail does ;)
- Orlando Pozo
Devil is in the details: "couple of longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" == Facebook projects with FriendFeed-like elements == no work on FriendFeed itself.
- EricaJoy
Thanks for the update, the more you communicate, the less we have to speculate.
- Peter Hoffmann
The fact that these improvements are coming to Facebook and not friendfeed will not sway those who like friendfeed but dislike Facebook.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Thank you Paul for bringing "FriendFeed goodness to the larger world" -- THAT sounds awesome!!
- Susan Beebe
integration with facebook?
- Rocco Galluzzo
@Alex Scoble: That's true
- Jorge Escobar
I hope out of the chrysalis emerges an infested Kerrigan. That'd be awesome http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki...
- Ivan Kirigin
Thanks Mark, much appreciated... I'll check those out
- Susan Beebe
+1 Ivan :)
- Benjamin Golub
But we knew this was the deal the moment the full details of the purchase of friendfeed by Facebook became public.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yeah, I don't give a crap about Facebook. I want to know about FriendFeed.
- Rochelle
sadly, no one with any power seems to care about FF anymore.
- Joe Silence
And there's your answer, Rochelle. friendwho? friendwhat now? Oh, you mean Facebook! (No I mean friendfeed) friendwho? (rinse, lather, repeat)
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
there are some ui differences (and i tend to prefer friendfeed in those cases) but i have friended quite a few FF people in FB and the experience is remarkably similar in many ways.
- Jason Wehmhoener
yep
- Jason Wehmhoener
Thanks for the transparency on the Friendfeed "ghost town" matter Paul. Much appreciated.
- Alex Knight
Thanks Paul... bring the special sauce to Facebook: http://blogs.zdnet.com/weblife...
- Andrew
I like the "chrysalis stage" analogy - sounds cool.... goes an looks for FF goodness butterfly!
- Susan Beebe
Good to know that FriendFeed still has some fight left; hope that translates into a viable and sustainable platform/utility for the masses (though I quite enjoy the close-knit, uber-geek community that it's become).
- Christian
I don't like the chrysalis analogy. The butterfly emerges from the chrysalis and buggers off leaving the shell. Of course, it might then also get eaten by a bird. Tweet, tweet.
- Mark H
Mark LOL nice, ... haha
- Susan Beebe
Note that he didn't say that FriendFeed.com was going away, only that they're diverted to bringing it to a much larger audience
- Jesse Stay
The problem is Scoble (Robert) and MG both just sent half of FriendFeed away so most of those that would benefit from this announcement won't even see it.
- Jesse Stay
Yeah, Paul's statement won't help friendfeed. This will just either give people more reason to go to Facebook or find another service entirely.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
What Alex and Rochelle said. This sounds like a "we're bringing FF to Facebook" announcement, and I don't give a damn about Facebook. I want to know what's happening HERE. And Cristo, both, but more the interface. I care about the friends I've made here, and I'm connected with many of them now on Facebook as well, but I prefer to interact with them here, because I like it better.
- Jandy
Travis, he didn't say that - you read that, but he didn't say that. I'm willing to bet FriendFeed.com will not go away.
- Jesse Stay
Travis, there are better ways of getting the FF team to comment
- Jesse Stay
:( I quite liked the caterpillar.
- Nick Lothian
I think it's the opposite, the butterfly is becoming this crawling caterpillar :)
- Jorge Escobar
What I do see is more Facebook integrated into the FriendFeed environment - I think that's a good thing
- Jesse Stay
The critical difference between Facebook and FriendFeed is the social model. With Facebook as it is today, you need to be mutual friends to see each others content. There is a "fan page" model but it is oriented toward "publishing/celebrity" rather than information sharing. FriendFeed has an asymmetric model like Twitter, where you can easily discover someone's content without any "friend" gesture whatsoever, and you can follow without friending. This makes the converation more discoverable, and useful..
- Adina Levin
If the integration is bringing public/asymmetric to Facebook, then it will be very useful indeed. If the integration is to add FriendFeed-style service integration into the symmetric/private Facebook model, it will be much less useful - it's more of the same - I'll be able to more easily share updates from youtube or last.fm or delicious to my friend network, but be unable to discover new people and infomation.
- Adina Levin
@Jesse - I can't see any sign that they are working on FriendFeed at all. All the indications are that the FF team is now working on Facebook, and only Facebook. That's great for Facebook, and I'm sure they will do wonderful work there. But don't delude yourself that FriendFeed is going to get anything more than critical fixes, and maybe the occasional thing done in someone's spare time.
- Nick Lothian
Butterflies look totally different than caterpillars and they also fly away
- Melanie Reed
Crickets chirping... is this site alive?? :)
- Christopher Galtenberg
+100 Adina. The things I like best about FriendFeed (easy content/people discovery, FoaF, asymmetrical following and being followed) are completely opposite to Facebook's core model. That's why as much as people keep talking about Facebook adding FF-like features, I don't see the REAL FF core features making it over, because the mindset is different.
- Jandy
I don't see this announcement as anything new, or as reassuring. We knew from the time of the acquisition that there would be would be some movement of FF capabilities into FB. The real question is whether this means absorption of FF into FB or attracting the FB user base into FF. The comment about "bring[ing] FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" still leaves that question open.
- John (bird whisperer)
+1 everything Alex Scoble has said. Friendwhat? What's a feed? Who uses RSS anymore? We've got PubSubWTFOMGBBQ now!
- Mr. Gunn
Agree with Jandy on +100 Adina.
- Amy℠
Also, I agree with Jandy and Adina's comments.
- John (bird whisperer)
Nick, Paul just said they're working on other projects right now. That still doesn't mean FriendFeed is going away. I'm not deluding myself at all. I'm telling everyone else they're deluding themselves by assuming it's going away. All the FriendFeed team is still using FriendFeed, and Paul just tried to give us comfort not to worry. For some reason we all don't want to believe him. It's actually kind of amusing.
- Jesse Stay
I wonder what the powers that be mean by "FriendFeedy goodness"? Is it understood what WE like about it vs. FB?
- Amy℠
Paul - Wishing you all the best as you tend your new butterfly garden :) I'll be here to enjoy them!
- Susan Beebe
This is not the news that Friendfeed fans were looking for.
- Vezquex
The issue isn't belief that they are going to do something. The question is what they are going to do, and whether that will continue the core value of FriendFeed, which is not just information aggregation but discoverability.
- Adina Levin
I know more about the "Last Days" and heaven than I know about what's going to happen to FriendFeed as we have come to know it than was given in your rather cryptic answer, Paul. :) And while that may not be a fair comparison (God actually gave details and signs), there is something definitely not forthcoming about your response. A person usually withholds details that affect another...
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- Melanie Reed
Hopefully this helps to quiet all of the "friendfeed is dying" talk. Because this thread proves ff is alive and well.
- Garin Kilpatrick
@Jesse - I read it differently to you. To me, Paul is saying "We are taking what we were working towards on FriendFeed, and trying to bring that goodness to a bigger audience". No one is claiming they are going to shut down FF.
- Nick Lothian
@Jesse - Want to make a bet on the number of new features added to FF before the end of the year?
- Nick Lothian
Cristo, to deliver some straightforward talk is not about giving away company details. If you have a product that is original and stands on its own, you don't need to refer to it as a "butterfly". Many companies even promote something new and upcoming especially to their loyal user base. It gives a signal. A proper one. It tells your users and future users enough so that they can make an informed decision about what they want to do instead of keeping them on tenderhooks
- Melanie Reed
"the chrysalis stage in most butterflies is one in which there is little movement" (via wikipedia) So if you follow that metaphor then eventually FriendFeed will go through a metamorphosis -- that means it's not dead... really how hard can it be to get what he's saying?
- Chris Heath
Its pretty hard :) The burning question is if they are putting FF goodness in to the walled gardens that are Facebook or are they bringing FF openness to FB too. I think the people here want the open forums that are FF not the closed ones that are FB. If FB is going hybrid with both walled gardens and open forums that would be OK too. People on FF want open forums... like Twitter and FF... without the crude interface that is Twitter and without the uncertainty that is FF now.
- Ed Millard
Facebook is gonna have to rip off much of the privacy to maximize their product in the real-time web world. I am going to assume FF goodness is going to be applied to FB :) *crosses fingers*
- Susan Beebe
Just a thought... why does "longer-term projects that will help bring FriendFeedy goodness to the larger world" JUST mean facebook.com? What I get from this is that they are working on a range of things, maybe bringing the FriendFeed sauce to a range of sites, powered by the Facebook back end. Who knows what that means. A FriendFeed service powered by FacebookConnect? Also to......
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- Johnny
LMFAO. Johnny++
- Rahsheen the Dream
FB needs to leave the privacy for the walled garden and the inner circle. Their current user base likes that. They just need a second feed that is an open forum and you can talk there without it bleeding in to your inner circle feed.
- Ed Millard
Yes, but blocking doesn't work so well since you can just use Chrome's Incognito mode to get around it.
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Translation: if you haven't switche to Facebook yet, you better do it now so you can get a good vanity URL.
- David Chartier
from iPhone
I don't know what all the fuss is about. But could we have the long answer too, please?
- Laura Norvig
Although I'm interested, FB != FF. I don't see how the two mix in a way that makes me feel otherwise. Mixing audiences is not a good thing for me (with a few exceptions) and I know others share the same thought.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Paul, will FF be here in 1 year, 5 years?
- Robert Higgins
Thanks for the update Paul..
- Chris Myles
Cristo I am funking nobody, I would like Paul to quantify his post. Simple. Will FF be here in 1 year? Will FF be here in 5 years?
- Robert Higgins
IMO friendfeed shoud attract more general audience... Facebook and twitter are having more general users. Most of the FF users are tech bloggers or those who needs aggregation services... I dont know it's just my feeling or not . but this is my impression on FF. but it's great service.. the features are too good... but we will roam were we meet our friends... thats most of the people are into twitter and FB.
- Sarath
Ohhhh a perrrttty butterfly, I'm moist with anticipation.
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
Glad to hear it, Paul.
- WoH: Minding her Steves
Cristo: i almost made the same observation an hour or two ago when i first read through this posting and its comments. I was skimming and kept seeing alex, alex, alex... and thinking to myself... where's Robert!?!
- Chris Heath
Great news. Thanks! friendfeed team. :D
- Ac0n (former Franc)
@Sarath - I have a lot more in common with the people I've met here on FriendFeed than FB or Twitter. Twitter is too hard to search, and FB (and Twitter to a good extent) is driven by the people you know in RL (and unfortunately I don't have nearly as much in common in RL with my family, co-workers and acquaintences as I do with people scattered all over the world who I have met on FF)....
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- Lindsay
I think that in his cryptic statement he means, and a lot of people here agree with me, that more Facebook's going to get more FriendFeedy. Which doesn't mean that FF still isn't dead or doomed. After all, he works for Facebook now. FriendFeed=open forum, Facebook=walled garden, totally opposite master metaphors; but I don't think Zuckerberg gets it, and FF belongs to Zuckerberg now. So this is really about FB; FF's still in limbo. Still, some FF people friended me at FB, and I put them in a special list.
- Dennis Jernberg
@FF-team keep on rocking :). BTW I also think it's really cool you guys open-sourced tornado.
- alfred westerveld
+1 what alfred said, and good to hear words like "longer-term" & "beautiful" coming straight from The Walrus - keep that vision strong. Hope all goes well for FF team doing some good re-inventing the Octopus Garden of FB - seems you've got your work cut out for you there! It would be so nice if any way to keep a "simple & pure" form of FriendFeed alive (maintained and developed - more open source?) for us to enjoy, but no worries .... you've simultaneously raised the bar and paved the way for the rest!
- Dan Freeman
Good luck with the development Paul! Hopefully Zuck has some positive insight.
- Garin Kilpatrick
I like butterflies.
- Harold Cabezas
Paul: If someone offered me a bag of money to do what you guys did, I would have done exactly the same (probably a lot faster too). However, it would be nice if you spent an hour answering some of the questions here. It might also give people like me a little more faith, in what used to be your primary project; Friendfeed. You made the best platform on the planet - why not use it to let us know what the heck's going on?
- Jim Connolly
I'm assuming that Facebook wants to keep their roadmap quiet. I respect that but leaving you community in the dark for a brand that the applications stand for community building is rather ironic.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
SUPER!! I don't Blame ya 1 Darn bit fer Dumpin' FacePOOP Paul!! ;PPP Wait FacePOOP is the Maggot Stage!! ;))
- Billy Warhol
If I can still have all my friends that I have here on friendfeed and share things with them the exact same way, I don't care what "www" address I have to type in to get it. I just hope i don't have to give up any of FF's awesome features! Thanks for the update Paul!
- David Cook
The problem is I don't know whether to wrote an app on your API or not because i'm not sure whether it will all be dropped in the "transformation". Imagine speding late nights and weekends coding something up only for it to be dropped suddenly. Need a decent long term picture. Looking at Cliqset.
- Steven Livingstone-Pérez
Good point Steven - and one of the reasons many of us are spending so little time developing our networks here.
- Jim Connolly
waiting....
- ffcode
ffcode: Good luck with that ;-)
- Jim Connolly
So the changes are at Facebook not FriendFeed, Paul?
- Kol Tregaskes
And good luck to all of your team
- Özkan Altuner
from iPhone
This is a truly disappointing/concerning post and I think it would have been much better to hold comment until something more tangible could be discussed. Thanks for adding to the confusion/drama Paul.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
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- MobilAdam
I do care about what happens next, but this is the best news of the day nonetheless ! thanks for giving us updates at last ! and I do hope FF will awaken again ! such a great tool, but letdown since the announcement of the buyback by FB
- laetSgo
will I see this post in my "best of week" email from FF?
- Kirill Bolgarov
If Facebook is going to get fixed, please remember that it needs fixing politically, not just technically. It needs to give people the option to open their data to Google - for instance. A walled garden where the walls are fixed in place sucks.
- Tim Tyler
@Paul, or perhaps an Alien will erupt forth from its stomach? (kidding, kidding!)
- j1m
bump!
- Jesse Stay
Why? edit: so... 18 months later i'm still wondering what exactly this post was all about
- Chris Heath
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