The easiest way to get apps. Pick the apps you want. Start your customized installer. You're done! Ninite works in the background 100% hands-free. We install apps with default settings and say "no" to browser toolbars and other junk. All we do is install the apps you choose. Not even Ninite is installed.
- sameer
Cool, I'd go for the second option though, but I'm just a fan of nature pics so that's biased. The first will probably get you to stand out even slighlty more. (and yes, I expand to see the third option :)
- James Kuypers
There's probably someone getting notified of log messages and faxing it by hand. The logging infrastructure they have there is to die for.
- Matt M (inactive)
I think it's funny that they actually paid $1.50 for it :-)
- Jesse Stay
I'd bet they actually made it work through eFax, like the original post said. eFax does faxes via email, so it would be rather trivial to have it email the picture to them.
- Otto
Look! I caught a Scoble thread before it had 400 comments!
- Lindsay
Maybe you did and just haven't noticed yet, like everyone else who has done the upgrade ;-)
- Andrew Leyden
Andrew: that's funny! Lindsay: heh, don't worry, engagement is down here.
- Robert Scoble
I'm totally diappointed. I thought you're an early adopter! :P
- imabonehead
I'm a little disappointed I paid money for it. There's really not much difference. It's a service pack, that's all.
- Jesse Stay
I want to be the last person on FriendFeed to do it.
- Rob Sterling
Yeah! This is the perfect way to show that you're a rebel!
- Akiva
I'm currently recommending people wait to install Snow Leopard. It breaks too many things and there's no apparent benefit (unless you need a specific new feature like Exchange support in Apple Mail).
- Leo Laporte
Longest I have gone without installing a major upgrade.. (after working at Apple for many a year) and unfortunately not very excited about it either.. Over heard people at the coffee shop voice their disappointment as well.. Is this a poor excuse for an upgrade? wheres all the amazing new features for our main desktop platform? Apple pouring focus into mobile and letting the core slip?
- Tyson
Oy vey. It just blows my mind that people are complaining about the lack of wow factor in an upgrade that has been, from near the start, touted as an under-the-hood upgrade.
- Akiva
All I've been hearing about snow leopard is that it breaks stuff.
- Rahsheen the Dream
What I've been telling people is this: there's more to a major OS upgrade than just a bunch of desktop eye candy. Things are going to break even if it is an Apple product. Luckily for me, the only things that have broken have been very minor (Glims and Privoxy). Thus, the caveat that should haunt the release of any OS upgrade: unless you like living on the edge, just wait until the...
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- Akiva
so we have to wait another year for the next "major upgrade" ?? Im sure Apple have a load of features they could have released? Apple can dictate tech trends.. Then I wonder are they actually slowing things down.. then I wonder is facebook also guilty of this by buying friendfeed?
- Tyson
Akiva: it sounds like Snow Leopard is Apple's Vista.
- Robert Scoble
As they say after a team's disappointing hockey season, It's a rebuilding year.
- Micah
I have all Mac's in my studio and only started with one, it's really fast...
- Jade Yeşim Gunver
Vista took 5 years to produce, it overpromised, underdelivered and is cludgy on computers made 3 years later and costs hundreds of dollars. Snow Leopard took 2 years to produce, promised very little, costs $30, and delivers speed, refinement, and stability and makes 3 year old laptops run faster
- El Pub
And yes: I'm a mac user and a red wings fan so...
- El Pub
Robert, if you lose your geek cred for not installing Snow Leopard right away, then something is wrong with the geek community.
- Eric Geller
oh well....I won't remove the geek credentials for that. In fact Id say they are stronger :-)
- Richard Binhammer
Are "geek credentials" really useful in order to be considered as a professional?
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
from email
I haven't installed it either. From all I've read and heard, it sounds like a maintenance upgrade that you have to pay for. I'll wait for 10.6.1 and give all the apps a chance to update to the latest version. I think I'm more excited about the Windows 7 upgrade. :)
- Tom Newman
With all its problems, you're not missing much
- Michael Gaines
Gotta say - it improved the color in my Canon inkjet prints from InDesign.
- Mary B, VALUE author
(Which sounds just unnatural enough it makes me want to make all the sorts of jokes a liberal shouldn't make about people who are not liberals.)
- Mary B, VALUE author
When I see so much people gathered around a demo, it reminds me of how people gathered around Steve & Steve with their first Apple computer (at least as in Pirates of Sillicon Valley). This technology let's hope it'll one day have a price like that of a TV and that everyone can have one of these in the living room. Good bye coffee tables.
- Gubatron
Instead of having tea.. I will spend my whole evening playing with the table.. :)
- Hameedullah Khan
It's a great pickup line. Well, at least it worked at Gnomedex. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I've look at those and it seems like you could replace 95% of the apps they run on them with a random iPhone game you would have more fun on it.
- Sam Pullara
Just forewarning - the public will be overwhelmed. It's too much to launch with, IMO - way too many features. (I'm in the developer sandbox preview)
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse Thanx 4 the forewarning I kind of have that feeling when the video presentation presents itself it will take a while to look around its features. I always take my time to test features
- polou/indigo_bow
I expect a steep learning curve. I've barely started learning about GReader, for that matter. Still, I'll be there when Wave launches, for sure.
- Dennis Jernberg
Unless they fix up a lot between now and then people are going to be very, very surprised (not in a good way!). Release early, release often is great, but I'm not sure people's expectations are realistic.
- Nick Lothian
Let's see what it's like then. Thanks for the info.
- Rick Cogley
Great now how long till Google buys Twitter to integrate it into Wave
- Rob Cairns
Rob, there is already a Twitter extension called Twave that integrates Twitter into GWave.
- Kol Tregaskes
Rob: I highly doubt that Google will buy Twitter as it doesn't fits any were with their existing products and with its integration with Wave what's the point of buying it.
- Usman Bashir
Usman - they will find a way to leverage it into Wave or another product.. I really believe Google is going going to make a big splash with Wave and they will have some big surprises in store. Google is not King of the cloud for a reason:)
- Rob Cairns
Thank Heavens for Google!! Every Computer User owes Google a Huge Thank U for FREEing us all from the Shackles of Greedy Monopolistic Crappy Microsoft* ;))
- Billy Warhol
I watched the video. So exactly what kind of beast Google Wave is? A social media platform? Can it aggregate as well as FriendFeed? Looks awesome to me. More like a tsunami. lols
- jan geronimo
I'll bump this again. Sorta disturbing that the the Scoble "look at me, I'm part of this" thread has garnered more attention than this. WAVE offers more promise at this point.
- Mattb4rd
Whoohoo - I am really looking forward to Google Wave - great news - thanks Zee.
- Robert Freeze
The Adobe Updater tells me it wants to update Acrobat every couple of days, but never manages it. Sounds like my uncle George that will come by to fix the back light.
- Ruud van Wijngaarden
And it keeps wanting to install Yahoo toolbar. What possible useful connection could there be between these two products?
- Joel Webber
yeah, not as bad as google update, but still nasty
- David
It's a terrible piece of software. Also essential: there's a really bad Flash exploit they just patched two days ago.
- Nelson Minar
Agreed its on the same level as Clippy
- Jim Goldstein
Yeah. Courier is going to send them scurrying.
- Akiva
no idea if that's what they'll really look like. that's just a demo in the video they sent
- MG Siegler
I'm consistently impressed with the value delivered by Google Apps. I expect the acquired Postini base to be more aggressively mined for Google Apps converts as well.
- Jay Cuthrell
I have alternative text: Day #3 - our Google App based corp mail is bouncing and we don't know why. No one responds in Google. :(
- Kfir Pravda
Kfir: Whatever. I've documented in video where Google Apps Support answers the -phone- when you call them. If you're running "corp" mail with a free account, you should not expect a paid support experience and you won't have access to the phone number of course. Here's the video I did a year ago for example: http://video.seesmic.com/threads... and it's gotten even better since then btw...
- Jay Cuthrell
Google is developing a brand that says "we want our design to look like it was created by engineers. Oh wait, let's hire engineers to design it!"
- Paula W
Errrr what? Developing a brand? Pretty sure Goog has had a brand for a good while now.
- EricaJoy
Google is developing a VAR and integrator channel.
- Jay Cuthrell
Matt - you'll have to create them yourself or use gadgets like Panorama
- Jay Cuthrell
Google is taking over the world...one piece of the enterprise at a time.
- Don Martelli
(Just speaking for myself here) It's worth pointing out that Google is *itself* a huge user of Apps, and it works very well for just about everything we do. Sure, there are cases that aren't covered yet -- I suspect some sophisticated spreadsheet users aren't going to have all the features they need, but it seldom matters for day-to-day users. And I suspect the teams are working hard to close those gaps as fast as they can.
- Joel Webber
And from a "cloud security" perspective (one concern I see coming up a lot), it's also worth considering that Google is as susceptible to this issue with its own apps as anyone else, so the company has an extremely strong incentive to get security right.
- Joel Webber
Jay: in recent cases that I've witnessed and documented in my blog, Google apps showed that in some cases they suffer from performance issues. When I published it, I received several comments from others suffering from the same issue, including corp accounts. That's why I mentioned the fact that bouncing emails occur on this platform, and other issues exist, that are not necessarily reported/covered. I am happy that you received great customer service.
- Kfir Pravda
Finding "We’re in the Yahoo! Directory phase of the application web — but rapidly entering the world of searchable, on-demand functionality" made my day.
- Kathy Fitch
The web can take over as soon as multiple active pages with notifications are supported.
- Tinfoil 2.0
But then does he also hate OSX and OSX developers for the same reason? Is Safari OS around the corner?
- felix
Multiple Active Pages with Notifications? But that's no different from how apps on the iPhone run today — and, as for notifications, you could just use an outside mechanism like push or SMS.
- Chris Messina
@Felix: Jobs might find some Apple developers irksome at times, but on the whole, no, I don't think he hates them. And yes, Safari OS is around the corner, because it's mostly already here, in fits and starts. It's the just web, silly. :P
- Chris Messina
I mean that's what web apps need. There are some great interfaces on some of the web apps, but if I didn't have to have their pages open to get updates, I'd need far fewer native apps.
- Tinfoil 2.0
Safari OS is called Fluid, and I am running it right now. Out of the 15 active apps in my dock, there are 6 web browsers or site-specific browsers.
- Lars Trieloff
from email
@Lars: Fluid is just a wrapper for WebKit with a few nice touches added in. I wouldn't say that SafariOS is Fluid — but through WebKit and HTML5, you do get access to some hardware-based elements (location, GPU, offline storage), which is usually included in the purview of the OS.
- Chris Messina
@Chris - heh, but why would he hate the app store and iphone devs but not osx devs? They both get in the way of web apps? Also... why does he employ so many iphone devs instead of web app devs? :)
- felix
He doesn't hate iPhone devs — it's just that the web is the natural environment for mobile — so it seems to me — desktop/native apps have been there forever. Is the chance to start fresh that make the iPhone different.
- Chris Messina
Ahh, I see what you're saying. Although, honestly, I don't think they're screwing up the App Store on purpose, and I don't think he was being honest when he said web apps were just as good on the iPhone as the SDK - just the SDK wasn't ready for public consumption yet. But I guess we'll never know until we can FOIA corporate docs! ;)
- felix