0.75 (926/1226) - still relatively new here
- mikepk
I only see my stats for the last week (17/14 = 1.21) Please tell me your 670 number is for more than just a week!
- Brian Johns
1.44 (566/391) for brianjohns (after week tally you should see a comma then 'all time' count - I can see it on your page)
- Micah Wittman
OK, sorry. I'm a total dumbass. I stopped reading after the weekly totals...
- Brian Johns
3.74, which seems way off of everybody else's. I wonder what that says. I comment a lot more than I like.
- Cyrus Lendvay
FFers use FF with their own strategy or simply default tendencies. The ratio is an interesting snapshot of behaviour. Thanks for joining in everyone, hope more keep flowing in.
- Micah Wittman
from twhirl
0.66 - I tend to 'like' things without needing to comment further, I guess, and I notice I usually like the things upon which I comment. Well, frequently.
- ɐ ɯıʞ sıɹɥɔ
.39 (2457/6242) I guess I don't comment much. I do 'like' a lot of things, it would seem.
- Bren -- feeling merry
0.62 then again i have over 11,000 comments
- Cee Bee
1.23 (5287/4229) - I am put to shame by Cee Bee's participation, good grief!
- Fa La La La Lindsay
So far: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81 ... (if you average 1 comment per like, you'd be 1.0 ... if you're 0.xx you might herd content more than discuss ... if you're whole numbers above 1 you may not 'like' much or discuss plenty or both)
- Micah Wittman
InPerpetualMotion(Gina k), I really liked this 'Like' of yours (in a series of pics, so I flickr fav'd it): http://friendfeed.com/e... and commented. Thanks!
- Micah Wittman
.68 6986/10194 Someone wrote a great article on the comment-like ratio a few months ago. Search on FriendFeed is crashing on me... I'll try to get the link.
- Mitchell Tsai
Thanks Mitchell (btw, search crashing on me too - lots)
- Micah Wittman
1316 comments/20221 likes (0.06), according to Windows Calculator, although I probably screwed up.
- Tyson Key
A recent change in FF: now the comment count shows total number of comments (previously multiple comments in one thread only counted as one) http://friendfeed.com/e... so all the numbers above are from the old methodology....
- David HC Soul
My new ratio: 0.76 all time (old methodology .52).... this week 1.39
- David HC Soul
Looks like my ratio as flipped again (comments back to dominating again). Seems to match my own awareness I've lately been commenting without Liking (commenting is my inherent recognition of value to me and the additional Like is when it merits an extra bump to help discovery by others).
- Micah Wittman
Darn - 0.52. I guess I need to say why I like something a little more often :-) Liking this thread because I was wondering the same thing recently. Has anybody worked out the average from the numbers here? </islazy>
- Andy Bold
Andy, scroll upward and you'll see a couple calculations from before (January: Average: 1.27 | Median: 0.81)
- Micah Wittman
Rick, you mean that face with glasses I photoshopped tint into with an apparently disembodied arm which is actually very much attached to my eldest son? It's mostly just me :)
- Micah Wittman
Thanks, Michael. Yes, you have a rising tide of comment percentage (oh, wow, you were one of the originals from January - cool!)
- Micah Wittman
Yeah, that's a decent upward rise in comments, Nicholas.
- Micah Wittman
.6 (6,000/10,000) 3rd update - Now it's time to flip this on its head. My goal is to have (16,000/16,000) next time I post here. Regardless of what happens, I'm just looking forward to the next 10,000 comments, likes, posts, and new relationships I make here. It's all good!
- Michael Fidler
1.76 (7539/4290) My commenting habits haven't chanced much, but it felt like I clicked Like a lot less, and this ratio confirms that for me.
- Micah Wittman
.82 as of right now. edit: on January 8th it was 0.39 -- when I saw that, I decided to make more of an effort to comment. When I hit 10k "likes" I decided I wouldn't "like" anything else until I also had 10k comments.
- Bren -- feeling merry
Jimminy, I'm copyrighting every single number. It's kind of a honeypot ;) Actually, it was curiosity mostly, but I also hope to build a sampling (small and self-selecting as it may be) for anyone who might want to analyze it.
- Micah Wittman
Wow I didn't realize I was so out of whack!! 12.23 that's got to be a record (and I don't even import my feeds with the summary as a comment)!!
- Chris Myles
Thanks JA, Chris (wow, 12+ is unusual :), Serkan and Nine!
- Micah Wittman
0.89 (17818/19913) (Somebody better make a cool ass graph of all this data!)
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
Micah.. I told you I take my likes seriously; ). You *might* want to ask (in a separate post) what percentage of likes were used to "bookmark" a post or save it for later VS actually "liking it". I NEVER used like for that.. but I did use a private group that if filled with my own topics (and comments)..
- Chris Myles
OK, so statistically, what ratio results in better interaction on FF?
- Jason Huebel
I don't think I could argue that any particular kind of ratio is "best", because if Lurkers like to Lurk and cultivate (via Likes) and the Chatty-ites love to chat, to pump out much many more comments than Likes, each can be happy and make for a great social experience.
- Micah Wittman
So I'm fairly balanced, it appears. I would imagine it's because I try to comment on every post I like. That's not always true, obviously. But mostly it is.
- Jason Huebel
Just clicking "Like" seems too easy. I feel like I should say something, too.
- Jason Huebel
wow, what a difference time makes, when i 1st posted on this thread, 6.43%, now = 1.25%, for a 5.18% difference, :o (and this is the earliest post to date i've recovered of my activity on ff)
- chaz2b
chaz, I think there's been a big fluctuation for most people (maybe not that much). This is the oldest post on which you commented that you've recovered?
- Micah Wittman
that was my third post... It's interesting to see how the number has changed. of course, I manipulated the number to a degree, because I stopped "liking" things for a while...
- Bren -- feeling merry
Bren, the other thing that can seriously throw off someone's stats is a feed that upon each item it imports adds a comment automatically.
- Micah Wittman
true. that can seriously inflate comment stats, of course. Then you have someone like RAPatton, who posts a gazillion comments, in part because of his playlist posts where he will list each song in a separate comment. I found, after this post in fact, that I tended to "like" things much more frequently than comment on them, that I was lurking instead of participating. I have changed the way I use ff rather considerably, and I think for the better.
- Bren -- feeling merry
Thanks Paola, Michael, Artemko, J. and Daniel!
- Micah Wittman
1.09 (9990/9105) From and including: Saturday, April 26, 2008 To and including: Thursday, November 12, 2009 It is 566 days from the start date to the end date, end date included Or 1 year, 6 months, 18 days including the end date to reach 10,000 comments.
- Christopher Harley
Are developers racing to get all of this established before Google Wave launches, or would they be developing it anyway? It's all changing so fast now, this Granny can't keep up with it all, (and I am still waiting for Facebook Lite to be available here in UK. I hate and detest those blasted applications!)
- Sandra Large
Thanks, Dave. Hope it helps rssCloud.
- Bret Taylor
Bret, just thinking out loud if there were a REST interface for the backend that worked like the REST interface for the client, I would be able to program both ends without having to learn the internals of your system. It would be really elegant, and probably wouldn't cost that much in overhead. I was able to create an interface to the client side of your realtime API in an hour or two....
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- Dave Winer
I respectfully throw myself at the feet of the Court Of FriendFeed and beg for special dispensation since I have only learnt that Friday the 5th of June is Donut Day at 1am on Saturday the 6th. I seek leave to engage in the festivities one day later to atone for my trespass on this most......... wait for it.......... holey day
You doughnut-picture-posting folks are just cruel. I never buy donuts but that photo the other day with the young guy munching the donut must have worked on me subliminally cuz when I got back from lunch I discovered I had stopped at Starbucks and bought an apple fritter.
- Fred Yankowski
You cannot petition the FriendFeed with donuts...
- Todd Hoff
may everyday be a holey day for you :D
- zsafwan
I've decided, Johnny, that we can celebrate it today :D A holey day indeed :)
- Penny
One thing I have noticed is that in any ovie, v show, etc where anything odd happens, the English are always portrayed as standing in place saying something like "This can't be happening" or some stupid thing like that, when it clearly IS happening. Is this some sort of national trait? I like to think that if, say, the dead rise and turn on the living, I would fight back + run to safety FIRST and worry about the ontological implications after.
- Neal Jansons
Laugh, sure. But your pounds sterling end up in a California bank account. ;-)
- Chris Baskind
My cousin dl'ed the Moron Test and tried to get me to take it. I told him he'd already failed because he was a moron for buying it in the first place. He was unamused. I wasn't.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
To be fair, he's kind of a tool, so it's less a reflection of the app and more a reflection of how much I want to throw him off the nearest high-rise.
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
I notice that the U.S. is no longer a nation of morons -- for the last few days, "The Sims 3" is #1, so we're now a nation of replicants.
- Stephen Mack
got this after my first intelligent use of ff filtered search. populist USA likes to feign ignorance and UK likes to superficial awareness
- Lane Rapp
I ask because in 2004/5 I had no debt until my family suffered 3 hospitalizations. That's when I left being an independent contractor to join a traditional company with benefits. If not the inability for the self-employed to obtain health benefits I'd likely still be independent.
- Robert J Taylor
I thought I could easily find some hard facts about the cost of pharmaceuticals in the US vs the cost in other countries. I was wrong. Looks like I will have to go beyond simple Google searches. My suspicion is that US patients fund a disproportionate amount of the R&D for drug development that benefits the entire world. That would be great if we could afford it, but it looks like we can not.
- Chip Ramsey
robot, i don't think as a society we are going to sit by and let people die. we don't do it today. emergency rooms are open to anyone. it just is a horrible system that creates higher cost last ditch effort care. and, the personal crisis you discuss is a good example of how resource distortions arise due to the fear of healthcare costs. there has to be a better way.
- lew
the US healthcare system is in sad shape yet so many people don't even realize it because they haven't been personally affected by it. hopefully we can turn it around before it gets too much worse. i cringe every time i hear someone say "blah blah blah Socialized Medicine, never!"
- Phil Maxwell
The growth of interest payments is not in our national interest.
- Mike Seidle
mike, like lew said in the post - the interest is a reflection of the growing costs - cut the costs down and the interest goes down too
- Chris Heath
Look at healthcare in places where it has been socialized. Canada, UK, etc. Is their level of care acceptable? Is it acceptable to lose all ability to choose which treatments you are going to receive? If you hand healthcare over to the government, none of us (except the "elites" and those who work for the government) will receive an acceptable level of care.
- Stephen M. Otto
healthcare is not a right. Its a choice. If you get health insurance from your employer thats money that they are not paying you. Just like the 7 to 8% they pay to Social Insecurity and Medicare is more money that employers are shelling out that you don't see. Many people who live in New York find that paying over $1,000 a month for family coverage simply is not doable. The programs for lower income people cap out way too low.
- Matt Ellsworth
"Every penny of Americans' nearly $1 trillion in revolving debt started with someone - some individual person - whipping out a piece of plastic and making a decision to use it. We could consider that free will and just call it a day, but there's plenty of reason to believe the story isn't so simple. There are piles of evidence that people are bad decision makers when it comes to how they use credit cards. Even when presented with full and fair information, they often make decisions that are not in their own economic best interest - a reality only partly taken into account by the new rules and pending legislation."
- AJ Kohn
from Bookmarklet
A-men. It's about time the blame is equally distributed to the user end as well. Sure creditors are evil but unless you swipe, you're clear. It goes both ways!
- Mona Nomura
User Error! Happens way too often in computer stuff too. Waiting for user errors to reach a hand out of the monitor and slap the user across the face then pop up "User Error" error message.
- John Wang
This is all very true. But if you sign up for a credit card at, say, 8%, buy some stuff and miss one payment and then find your rate increased to 18% or, in some cases 22%, what was a manageable and eminently repayable debt is now suddenly not. So, there's a lot of blame to go around.
- Kevin Pedraja
it's a big problem that people finance things like a night out to the movies or their groceries. It's one thing to finance business, cars, and actual emergencies, but wow.. 18-28% on your cheerios?
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I'll never understand why people not running businesses need credit cards. If I can't afford it now, now way in hell, I'll pay usury fees on top of that. We don't even use our credit cards. And when we did, it was definitely for emergencies. Otherwise, it's all cash for those regular purchases. Then again, I also don't get financing on appliances, so what do I know?
- Admiral Anika
Anika: you know the thing smart consumers and business people everywhere know: If it Depreciates PAY CASH! (I don't finance cars either, I pay cash and buy ones I can afford)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I've only financed once car, our Mini. I will NEVER do that again. I hate making car payments. I'd much rather just buy used from now on and pay the cash.
- Admiral Anika
I'm shocked at the amount of credit card debt many people carry. I use credit cards because I get my 1% back. But I don't 'finance' things on a credit card. In my dark unemployed days of debt I moved my money around from offer to offer ... you gotta manage these things. It comes down to instant gratification ... they want the new game system or the huge HD TV for the family room and ... instead of seeing that they can't afford it ... they decide plastic will do just fine. That ... isn't good.
- AJ Kohn
BTW - look at that figure again $1 TRILLION of revolving debt - does anyone think that type of debt is sustainable? We're making Bernie Madoff look like small potatoes.
- AJ Kohn
good thinking! I financed 2 - one I got screwed royally on. I hated the payments on both. I've also considered that it might be wise to just get the $500 special, and simply throw it away when it breaks. I figure if it lasts more than 3 months, I'm way ahead of car payments.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Went the 0% financing on my last new car ... that's my kind of rate ;)
- AJ Kohn
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I just looked again...Gwen Stefani and JLo
- Anna Haro
Hey Anna!! *hug* Seriously... It paled everything else in comparison... I couldn't 'like' anything else on my 'best of the day' tab. :)
- Parth Awasthi
This should be exciting. Remember, Wolfram discovered cellular automata, too.
- Akiva Moskovitz
So long as the beta isn't called Wolfram Hart, it'll all be good.
- WorldofHiglet
Akiva, I believe it was actually John von Neumann (in '40s...working on self replicating systems he followed suggestion by Stanislaw Ulam to use mathematical abstraction rather than having one robot physically build another robot). For those of us in school in the early 70's our first exposure to CA was via an article in Scientific American (Martin Gardner's Column) on John Conway's "Game of Life." Wolframs' work was considerably later....(I think first published around mid 80's) but oh what work it was!
- David HC Soul
Sorry, Akiva but Wolfram didn't discover cellular automata von Neumann did and the NYT article from several years ago was talking about Wolfram playing with the Game of Life created by John Conway in the 70's.
- Jimminy Fuller
I was being sarcastic. His whole pompous 'new science' deal and all that.
- Akiva Moskovitz
Sorry Akiva - right over my head; it must be too late at night for an old guy like me.
- David HC Soul
Looks like it will be a giant, general-purpose expert system.
- Pavlo Zahozhenko
S'all right. I'm barely keeping it together myself.
- Akiva Moskovitz
My goodness - #WolframAlpha news is incredible. I've been so looking forward to hearing about something like this.
- Julian Edward
Robert, I too want to see this... the potential for this is really amazing. Einstein would go nuts for this, huh?! This is a great milestone in mathematics and computing science
- Susan Beebe
Hi folks -- it is indeed very cool -- I was blown away by what I saw. It is really something new and impressive. Only Wolfram would take on something so ambitious, and actually pull it off.
- Nova Spivack
Hmm... what's stopping Google from creating something similar? I guess because of what the article highlighted: hidden in the article is a big red flag for me, " ... there are potential biases in the answers one might come up with, depending on the data sources and paradigms used to compute them."
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
I have to add a note: Ever tried searching for "who is the mother of britney spears" in Google? Try it.Or, for a more acceptable kind of question, try "what is the capital of bolivia"
- Pandu ● IT Optimizer
Pandu I believe that the idea of Wolfram is to answer other questions i.e. "What was the level rainfall on X day in X". Also Mahesh they're is a conversation going on over on Twine which explains the reasons why it is different in the comments.
- Nicholas James
I've noticed a pattern over quite a few years: Internet services that are pre-announced with a great deal of hype often fail. Services that simply and quietly open up shop, like Google, and which rely on word-of-mouth to communicate an exciting experience, are more likely to succeed. NEVER pre-hype your Internet service. Let the service speak for itself. That being said, from its...
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- Sean McBride
If it takes that many words to describe it I'm thinking it's not going to pan-out.
- Kevin Gamble
I dunno, I remember google having a good amount of hype long before I ever used it, I don't think it did "pre-launch" but certainly long before it was well known and at a time when other search engines results were still competitive.
- Richard Lawler
Have any pointers to the Google pre-hype? I don't recall it.
- Sean McBride
This all seems to rest upon some interesting advances in Knowledge Representation, which might be of use even if the service doesn't pan out.
- Seth Greenblatt
Where are the research papers underlying the knowledge representation approach here? Wolfram's team worked entirely in stealth mode?
- Sean McBride
I have a friend working on this and he is raving about it.
- Mark Krynsky
Mark -- where is the headquarters for this project?
- Sean McBride
reminds me that we still have no clear picture of how mind works.. and i don't think we could ever possibly have..
- Hayk H.
Hayk -- we know quite a bit about how the mind works, and will learn much more. Cognitive science is a viable endeavor.
- Sean McBride
Sean, that is true. But compare the amount of money, resources, time and effort put into finding out how the mind works, combine it with all previous endeavors of humanity and contrast it with results we have - IMO not much. Processing info in as organic and natural a manner as human mind is the objective of this project. I am going to be cautiously skeptical in my expectations about it, although I already see the hype that gathers around it - reminiscent of Turing's machine some 70+ years ago.
- Hayk H.
Sean, my friend is based in LA but I don't have details on where the rest of the team / offices are located.
- Mark Krynsky
Where Sergey Brin once said "If it doesn't exist, you cant find it" Wolfram is saying the answer can be constructed from the question. Notions of what 'does' and 'does not' exist are going to be pulled in for questioning.
- zeroinfluencer
Wolfram and his team are smart. I look forward to seeing what impact this has on the community. I wish that he would do more work in "productionalizing" his research in emergent behaviors.
- Will Hawkins
Francine is noticing the same thing I am. This past week I overscheduled myself so it was impossible to blog and be on friendfeed or twitter much. What I found is that the important news found its way to me anyway. People would tell me what was happening on Twitter right then. Or techmeme. Or wherever. Overall I'm finding that I'm most productive when I'm not staring at Tweetdeck or friendfeed. I'm even turning them off to avoid being distracted.
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
The way we report, and distribute, news is radically changing. I am more likely to learn about a plane crash from a friend (Thomas Hawk was the one I learned about the Hudson plane crash from) than from CNN.
- Robert Scoble
The reasoning I had to blog has been radically changed. Now I'm finding I'm saving my blog for long, thoughtful pieces, rather than quick hit news.
- Robert Scoble
If I totally miss something it generally keeps coming back to me. And, if I really did miss something big (let's say I was in a coma the past year and missed that Obama got elected) it would be easy to figure out thanks to Google and all that. The information is all out there.
- Robert Scoble
My mornings no longer start with a news reader. Instead I start at http://search.twitter.com and friendfeed's "best of day" feature. They tell me what important things have happened overnight (from a popularity point of view). Then TechMeme, Memeorandum, and Google News fill in the rest.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I used to want to blog news stuff as well, however I've always been of the opinion that longer, more thought-out and properly cohesed verbiage is worth 2 in the bush. will check back here later to participate once this gets a bit larger. // on data and informantic overload, I've actually written a little abstract about that. If there's a demand, I'll eek it out later to omfglol.org
- Omar
Attention is a valuable commodity - if you are trying to hear everything, you can't LISTEN to anything. The value of a well built social graph is that the good stuff (to YOU) finds you anyway.
- Brian Roy
I still drop in on Google Reader once in a while but usually use Feedly to read my feeds now and get a "whif" of what's waiting for me on Google Reader. I do miss following specific people, though, and often I find I use friendfeed to read everything that, say, Dave Winer has written in the past week.
- Robert Scoble
I'll keep making noises about it, but the feed reader paradigm is broken. If you don't care that you've got 1000 unread items in google reader, and don't read them all, is that model of reading news useful? Is the read/unread status helping you or distracting you? The best model is Rivers of News, I do all of my feed reading this way. No guilt, no obsessing about counts, just scanned headlines and diving in when I want to (not feeling like I have to).
- mikepk
I don't worry anymore about traffic, or numbers of followers. What I worry about is engagement. Having a great conversation with someone smart. If I do that every day, I find I learn a lot more than if I follow 100 more feeds. Why? Smart people follow other smart people and hear about all the important news. Steve Gillmor, today, taught me more about the crowd computing space than I learned from the top 10 experts in his panel yesterday. Why is that? Because Steve is able to filter out all the intros...
- Robert Scoble
I should qualify, Rivers of News is the best way for me. People argue with me they want to read every post in every feed they subscribe to. I just don't think that's a realistic news engagement model if you subscribe to any significant number of feeds.
- mikepk
...and filter out all the posturing, the product pitches, and get to the heart of the matter and then, but arguing it out one-to-one we both learn more about the industry than we would by reading 1000 tweets.
- Robert Scoble
mikepk: did you ever worry that you didn't read every article in this morning's newspaper? I didn't. I didn't think that model was broken because it presented me with more than I ever could read.
- Robert Scoble
“If the news is that important, it will find me.”
- Brian Sullivan
Brian: the secret is in getting value from the unimportant. Like someone's death (which happened on the Zoho team today). Or someone's birthday. Mark Zuckerberg's sister had a birthday party last night. Or in someone having a tough time (Jeremy Toeman had his appendix out recently). It's those unimportant events that humans find value in.
- Robert Scoble
I would have to say if you find value in it, it is important.
- Brian Sullivan
Robert: exactly. Feed readers were modeled on email, and I think that's a fundamental problem they have. I like RONs because, when I want to know what's going on, I pop them open, scan the latest stuff (get a sense for whats going on) and then close it down. No "news management" just reading and engagement. I also have topic specific RONs when I want to know what's going on in Tech, World News, Science/Engineering etc...
- mikepk
Robert - Exactly. The value is in the relationship (we care about those things because we have/perceive a relationship). There is also value in topics (or context). What subjects do I find interesting (right now) and how do I engage others in conversation about those topics.
- Brian Roy
What I find exciting is taking all of this content - that is context-less - and finding ways to put it in context. Why? Because people engage on two levels 1) relationships 2) interests
- Brian Roy
I do read every just about every post in every feed I subscribe to (although there are some special cases where I just "skim" the feeds); if the signal-to-noise ratio in a particular feed is too high for me, then I just unsubscribe. On the other hand, I don't read every single unread item every time I open my feed reader. On a day to day basis, I just surf the edge to keep up to date, and only dip down into the rest of the content every week or two; but I do get there sooner or later.
- Tristan Seligmann
She's taking the Loic approach to SM, i.e. following via twhirl rather than filtered through tweetdeck.I like that :-)
- Richard A.
I too used to read my news feeds every morning. But I started to realise that most of the items were boring. Now instead I check friendfeed and I still find out the important news but I also get a whole lot of engagement with interesting things outside of just news items
- Benno
Feedly has stopped me being bothered about my buildup of RSS articles, because it is set to only give me the last 3 days. So I read through the last 3 days, feel like I've caught up, even though there might still be 1000 articles waiting for me in Google Reader. Every now and then I go and clear them out. Like Francine, I don't feel like I'm missing anything.
- Jalada
"...you do the Hokey Pokey and you turn yourself around. That's what it's all about." I believe you all know how the rest of the song goes. ;)
- TheMacMommy
It is pretty strange. In fact, it's unprecedented. Booze is one of the steadiest things in good times or bad, generally, and this degree of drop in alcohol consumption has never been seen before. http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009...
- Jason Wehmhoener
sober times, call for sober minds...LOL.
- R. Ferguson
It is weird. I'd expect it to go up. Maybe more people are popping vicodin and smoking weed these days.
- Rodfather
"A resilient person is not only able to handle such experiences in the moment, but also to bounce back afterward. The good news is that leaders can develop resilience by managing their thoughts, behaviours and actions. The Road to Resilience, the APA's guide to developing individual resilience, sets out 10 steps which every leader should take time to study: "
- Nilesh
Generally buy what's on sale, except where this compromises healthy eating. Also helps to eat what you buy and buy what you eat. Nothing wastes money faster than spending it on food that you throw out.
- Alex Scoble
I look at weekly specials and store brand items. I also take advantage of triple coupon week.
- Morton Fox
Sam's club - some items like Shrimp - in larger quantities can save you money on items you know you'll use.
- Susan Beebe
Also, many private label brands are just as good as other ones.
- Bryce Roney
agree with Bryce - store brands versus name (except husband refuses off brand soda) - watch sales and invest in a chest type freezer. Makes stocking up on regular sale stuff much easier.
- Janet
I don't. I take Michael Pollen's advice: spend more, eat less. (ok, ok, I've only mastered the first part.)
- Anthony Citrano
Had a huge chest freezer at my old place, it was quite awesome for shopping at Costco. Didn't move it cross country tho (good thing, because there's no room for it), but we've found we eat fresher stuff if we can't store it.
- Andy Bakun
Luckily I'm not huge on brands (other than my affair with Knudsen cottage cheese) so I'm open to non-brand name items.
- Nurse Katie
Cut back on the meat. It's healthier too.
- Meryn Stol
Eat BEFORE you go shopping... I buy way more food when I am hungry
- Susan Beebe
Shop 'n' Save here in StL usually has this deal where you spend $50.01 and they take $10.00 off on Thursdays. It is usually in today's postal mail.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
IF its on sale buy it! I always look for buy one get one frees!
- Brandy Lea
I eat most meals at restaurants. Saves tons of money on groceries!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
Frequent shopper card and buying more when it's on sale. Oh, and shop with a list.
- Kenton
Also, take a look at the price per [unit of measure] for each item you're looking for. I was surprised this weekend when shopping at BJ's Wholesale Club that something in a smaller package had a lower cost per ounce than the same product in a larger package. Checking unit cost can shave tons of pennies off your grocery bill.
- Sally: in Florida
Sally, that's actually pretty common. Same thing happened to me this week buying ranch dressing mix and dried beans.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
For me, I had the misguided idea that bulk purchasing = bigger packages = bigger is better. I'm glad that's not always the case. It drives my husband batty when we quibble over a few pennies on the ounce but over the course of a year it does help us save.
- Sally: in Florida
That brings up another suggestion: shop alone! If either Dave or I go to the store with a list, we stick to it with no problem. But if we go to the store together, chaos breaks out in the shopping cart...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
be an outsider - shop the perimeter of the store ( healthier foods) and skip the boxed and junk sections ( most ppl spend more than they realize on low quality foods & impulse purchases)
- Tracy Benham
Krogers over Publix and Walmart. House brands. Chicken over meat. I do look at cost per oz. Live alone.... I am responsible for all purchases good or bad. Avoid the Ice Cream isle. Not.
- Russellreno
Take advantage of rain checks if your store offers them. Usually if they do, they're available even if just a variety is out. For instance, say they're running a sale on a certain brand of milk and they're out of whole milk. You should be able to get a rain check for that price on the milk usable within the next 30 days, regardless of whether you use whole, skim, etc.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
We cut back on portion sizes, and eat more in-seaon fruit and veg, and less fancy exotic crap. Oh, we rarely cut coupons. Seldom see them for Publix.
- Ian May
i save by growing lots of my own, granted climate is good, big lot rented house, amazing how much can be grown and harvested with minimum labour - no digging, weeding - there's a lot of fallow land (aka lawn) in suburbia.
- ernie yacub
ps friendly neighbours get goodies from our garden and the playing field (dog shit park) across the road looks ripe for a community garden.
- ernie yacub
I forgot to add hit up the local Farmers Markets and Co-Ops.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
We quit getting groceries in Costco, as it simply didn't save anything. We just ate more. We hit up those Farmers Markets too, and roadside stalls. Brands? What are they? I don't buy ANYTHING because of a brand name, only because I like it or because it's proven quality.
- Ian May
I get free breakfast and lunch at work.
- MarkCarras
Avoiding second-derivative food products (e.g. flour and baking powder instead of pancake mix, soup makings instead of soup, etc) and eating more veg and less meat.
- Wirehead
"What that economy demonstrates, especially in its virtual form, is that reputation itself—social status and the respect of others—can usefully be understood as a form of property..."
- Anthony Citrano
"This emphasis on followers will leave you unsatisfied. Why? You can’t control it. So, worry about what you CAN control: who you follow. Follow better people. Get better inputs! If you do that the followers will come and, guess what? They’ll be better followers too because you put the emphasis on what really matters. Who cares who is following you anyway? It only matters if they think you’re smart. Oh, and Kevin missed a few ways to get followers: 1. Survive a plane crash and Tweet it. 2. Get arrested and tweet from jail. 3. Have sex with someone famous and tweet that. 4. Start a famous company. Profitability not required. 5. Have Leo Laporte mention you on his show (worked for my son). 6. Have Mike Arrington tell you you’re addicted (worked for me). 7. Unfollow all your followers. Follow them back. Block them. Then unfollow them. (Worked for Loren Feldman). 8. Get into a movie. 9. Direct a movie. 10. Take pictures with MC Hammer at a TechCrunch party. Hope that helps."
- Robert Scoble
Robert - weren't you just talking about losing followers a couple of weeks ago? How did you know you lost them if you weren't paying attention to your follower count? ;)
- Andru Edwards
Andru: because Twitter puts them in my face everytime I log in. It's hard to avoid knowing them.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble, somehow I find you more reactive here than on twitter.
- Richard A.
In essence, do something interesting, somewhat notorious, and admit it.
- Robert Miller
I have no clue how many followers I have, or when that number increases or decreases - but I rarely log in to Twitter I guess, since I use Twitter apps mostly.
- Andru Edwards
Richard: being two-way is a TON easier and nicer here. It pisses people off when you Tweet too much over on Twitter. Oh, and Andru, even if I didn't look at my home page often people remind me every day or two how many followers I have.
- Robert Scoble
Ah I see...people are reminding you constantly...that makes sense ;)
- Andru Edwards
Andru: that and I'm an egotistical baaaahhhhhhsssstttttaaaaarrrrddddd. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Well, and now the truth comes out. LOL LOL LOL
- Robert Miller
I don't want more followers, I want the right followers - people who will talk to me, argue with me, and fire up my mind. So I try to look for these and follow them. That is a lot harder to crack - twitter search does not have a "find stimulating people" option
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
I agree with Joelle. Sure would be nice to have that search option.
- Robert Miller
That's why I like people making "lists of people I'm glad to follow" or retweeting smart contributions, because it helps me find people. There's the same issue in FF, although comments really help. PS: I am still chuckling at robert's list though, good fun at the quirky/murky side of human nature
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
If the title of this feed would be renamed into the thought of Joelle nebbe, I would check it as an "like" ;
- ewing2001akaNicomedy2010
can;t help wondering what he's trying to launch...
- Paul Fabretti
from twhirl
Is he trying to kill Digg now? The "Retweet" is a much more successful version of what Digg is trying to do. If anything kills Digg it will be Twitter.
- Jesse Stay
Yep- these "Grow your following fast" schemes resemble the :get reach fast"ones too much for my liking :-)
- Antonio Altamirano
Completely agree, Stay. Something about the PubSub model has allowed them to become more of a social network than Digg (maybe b/c the semi-personal nature of Tweets) and new can travel fast through the Twittersphere. That is just one of its uses, yet it is SO simple. They deserve more respect for the power of their simple service.
- coldbrew
With failing financial structure, Social capital, creative capital, and intellectual capital will increasingly behave like tangible assets.
- dan
from Bookmarklet
Hasn't it always been about who you know, and not what you know?
- coldbrew
A big part of why I wrote this post and have it running in my number one photo spot on Flickr right now is because I want more of my photography friends to sign up for the service. I *love* seeing photos here on FriendFeed and there are so many talented photographers who are not here yet who need to be. If we can get more of them to sign up, you guys will love their work. Of course there are many great photographers already on here but still a lot more who could join.
- Thomas Hawk
I had to re-share this with all my FB friends. :)
- Kelly W.
Still trying to figure out this whole friendfeed experience. I've had the account for a while and see lots of my twitter friends posting via ff
- Demetri Mouratis
Hi Demetri =) Different people use FF different ways because they want to get different things out of it. What are you hoping to get out of it?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Thanks for the tip. I had FF but really never 'got' what it was for. This helped!
- Molly Nichelson
from twhirl
TH - for those photographers that are not on here, I put their flickr id into my Flickr Imaginary friend and see their images that way. However, it would be nice to get more photographers on here with their reader shares and such...
- Justin Korn
This is definitely the best "Why Friendfeed" post I've seen.
- Nick in Manila
Justin, agreed. I have a bunch of imaginary friend accounts for Flickr/Zooomr users as well. But it is nicer when they actually have accounts here, their work can be liked and commented to the larger FF community, etc. It seems like a few new people signed up today based on this post so I'm happy for that. Thanks Nick!
- Thomas Hawk
I have AlertThingy FriendFeed Edition as well as AlertThingy v2
- Outsanity
Did you just reformatted your post, Thomas? It a lot easier to scan through now.
- Alan Le
Alan, a lot of times I post first and edit later. I probably shouldn't do that, but yeah, after posting I broke up some of the paragraphs better, bolded a few things etc., to make it easier to read.
- Thomas Hawk
That's great. Make sure to check out Windows Live Writer for formatting blog posts if you haven't already yet. By the way, I love the new blog design. It's much better than when I helped you with the html way back. http://thomashawk.com/2006...
- Alan Le
Barlow, Im currently developping an Adobe AIR tool for FriendFeed: we comin' !
- David Guyon
Y'know... I must've spent two months randomly Tweeting things like "Will someone PLEASE explain to me why I should be using FriendFeed?" ... And then two days ago I start using my account (I'd had one for a while)... and NOW someone finally makes a post outlining why I should be here. You're two days late, Mr. Hawk, two days late. :P
- Lou
actually, there's no search for Russian word forms on Frf. For me that looks as if there's no search at all
- orie
hmmm.. I didn't know that orie. It seems like there is a lot of international users on FF, that's surprising to me.
- Thomas Hawk
I've been trying to make sense of FF for months now, but every time I come away confused. As it is I feel like I'm drowning under all the social networking sites available. I use Twitter, Plurk and Facebook the most, and I use Ping.fm so I only have to post status updates once. How can I integrate FF into this without making things even more confusing?
- Chris Taylor
oooh! I found the zooomr version of this post with no formatting and I whined somewhere else in my FF feed. This one with all the formatting is better :D
- Tamar Weinberg
Mark - agreed. Also, Thomas ... very nice blog. I like.
- Amani
Good post Thomas. I was thinking it would be hard to find 10 points, but I agree with all your points, and am sure there are probably many more.
- Peter Efland
@Tamar, the unformated text was a problem on the Zooomr image. Kristopher's fixed that bug now so text in descriptions on Zooomr photos should format correctly now.
- Thomas Hawk
I wasn't using FF, but signed up after your post. Now let's see if it is really so useful ;-)
- Marcel Körner
@Marcel also take into consideration who you are subscribed to. Aside from maybe four on your current sub list, they are not very active at all on FF. This will affect your experience here.
- Carlos Ayala
Didn't know there was a "Porn" room on FF (see screenshot)...
- David Young
how did you see that they are not active on FF?
- Marcel Körner
David, the "porn" room on FriendFeed isn't all that active actually. I'm not really interested in porn per se, just thought it was a good group name to claim in the great FriendFeed land group name grab of 2008.
- Thomas Hawk
@Marcel by their numbers, and the fact that i know most of them and can tell you first hand that they are not. (if you hover over people's names you will see their numbers)
- Carlos Ayala