Do I hear a +1 for foci, vertices, matrices, and octopi? What about unices and vaxen?
- Joel Webber
Paul is making two points here. One: People aren't wearing enough hats. Two: To truly focus on something requires sacrificing attention not only toward the distractions of everyday trivia, but even toward other important things.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Whatever the plural is, I don't care anymore and I suggest to call it: Haley (plural of Focus)! Josh, you made my day! :)
- directeur
Bruce gets it (except for the part about hats?). You can't be "focused" on ten different things.
- Paul Buchheit
So like 'I got my mind on my money and my money on my mind...'
- Johnny Worthington
Yes, admittedly I haven't fully grasped the hats part yet, but I'm researching it. Are there any good sites out there that explore the hats issue?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I meant that I don't know what you meant by "hats". It was only one point, not two :)
- Paul Buchheit
One point, yes, most certainly. One point with two parts, which will meld together into one coherent whole once I understand them. I found a starting point for my hats research: http://www.google.com/m...
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
I'm disappointed by the shortage of Monty Python fans here. I was expecting other people to jump in with hat queries, but they never came. "Meaning of Life" isn't one of their better movies, but that particular scene has really funny self-referential humor that is apt any time the topic of avoiding distraction comes up.
- Bruce Lewis
i tried searching for CenterNetworks and then Steve Rubel - neither search did anything - just sat there with their spinning logo on the page - I waited over 1 minute for each.
- Allen Stern
Another alternative is TwitterSPY (http://dustin.github.com/twitter...) which Dustin Sallings launched back in July. It provides both XMPP and "track", but like all the current workarounds it's (rate) limited due to lack of a "firehose"
- Ken Sheppardson
Doesn't GNIP give everyone access to the firehose?
- Sam Pullara
Interesting, but doesn't format cleanly in Adium.
- l0ckergn0me
Yeah - we've mentioned TwitterSPY multiple times on both StayNAlive.com and LouisGray.com. Interesting to see others getting into the game.
- Jesse Stay
tweet.im is not even using password field.but it says everything is secure
- Toni @ NavinoT
from IM
@Sam: Gnip does make the "notification" firehose available, which includes the tweeter, a URL back to the tweet's full text, etc.
- Eddie O'Neil
Gnip was going to be providing the full feed, but several folk who put in requests to get it were told Gnip was waiting for Twitter's approval to turn it on for 3rd parties. Meanwhile, the full feed was available from Gnip's dev site, but the public side only offered/offers the data mining sampled feed. This was right around the time Gnip decided to drop support for XMPP. Since then Twitter decided they'd handle full feed distro themselves and Gnip turned off the full feed o the dev side. ...
- Ken Sheppardson
Alex Payne, API lead had initially suggested in the Developer Google Group that they'd have something available by Thanksgiving. Most recently (12/29) Alex wrote "Both OAuth and the 'firehose' feed of public updates are in internal testing and are pending a closed beta. We'll be experimenting with both after the first of the year."
- Ken Sheppardson
tweet.im was the third publicly available service I heard of. The other is notify.me. Twitterspy does more than both of them, and is OSS (and I don't expect money). Not sure what I'm doing wrong marketing-wise.
- Dustin Sallings
But as Ken says, twitter sent us to gnip and I got confirmation from gnip on availability of their firehose in such a way that would provide true realtime track (like we built for identi.ca), then twitter said no.
- Dustin Sallings
Dustin, I don't think you're doing anything wrong. You're doing a great job in fact. Steve Gillmor featured you, we featured you. Dave Winer talks about you. I'm willing to bet you have many more users than tweet.IM. I think the issue is XMPP and "track" are too complex for the average user. Unless "track" comes via SMS like it did before (which Twitter has to provide), the average user isn't going to use it, despite what Steve Gillmor says.
- Jesse Stay
@Jesse I mostly care that it works for me... Anyone can do SMS, but I guess just twitter doesn't care about the cost. :)
- Dustin Sallings
Good list Chris. I like the one where you ask a question in Twitter in regards to a blog post, encourages a conversation, very nice.
- Jeremy Campbell
from twhirl
"Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
- Andrew Badera
from Bookmarklet
There is also getting inside of a firestorm like the last couple of days for me, although keeping even a percentage of the traffic is going to be hard now the storm is subsiding. Any advice on that one?
- Ian D. Nock
from twhirl
I love crayons...everyone should have a big box of them! I love great blogs like Louis' ... everyone should LINK to and COMMENT IN blogs they love!
- Internet Strategist
Robert how much higher is the revenue???
- Susan Beebe
mattpovey - As someone who libels and assaults frequently... that scares me!
- Andrew
Susan: the bird wouldn't discuss numbers other than to say all estimates he has seen are low.
- Robert Scoble
great news. they've really captured the way people communicate quiet effectively.
- Rahul Krishnakumar
I just can't make myself like Facebook. In part I think it's not really wanting to keep up with old friends. Don't get me started on the stupid apps and the layout.
- BEX
Facebook is really growing in my neck of the woods...TONS of co-workers have jumped on FB now... all happening VERY fast. Transparency is the new reality. I get folks calling me from work asking how all this "social" sh*t works... LOL pretty shocked n00bies!
- Susan Beebe
I wonder if the progression remains "neopets" --> "myspace" --> "facebook" .. both my daughters went through these three distinct stages. IRC was in there for a bit; followed by forums and blogs; and now they just IM
- LPH™ and his dog P™
It is amazing how many customers now you directly communicate with on a daily basis through SMS, twitter and facebook.
- Shaun Haney
Most blogs report $150 m? I would put it between 200-300 M based on back of envelope calculations that assume a low RPM
- Bindu Reddy
Who told you? I am guessing someone from Facebook. They get a bad story, they "leak" to you it's not true, you post it. People believe you. Why don't they just people what they make if they care. Posting like this make you look like a shill.
- Michael Stearne
i never pay a attention to the adv on FB right slider.so the revenue i think should be lower than most blogs have reported:D
- jedorstar
If I could pay ten bucks to insta-ban all annoying app requests and pathetic ads, and more options for designing my front page, I'd go for it...
- Terry O'Fee
When this is anything more than unsubstantiated rumor, I'm sure they'll be happy to put their cards on the table.
- Sam
My forecaster's "sell" order stands. Or, buy puts, your choice. AOL didn't die in a day, either; in fact, it took one of the greatest value dumps of all time, directly upon the heads of Time Warner shareholders. Please, of course I know it's not public, I'm talking Cred Trend Puts. I can't imagine a single reason for the web needing FB by 2012; it was a cute start to socially stuff and MySpace UI cleanup, but the vast majority of The Normals will use it as a Social Registry and virtually never log in again.
- michael silverton
A revenue of $10 per user per year is achievable - advertising + premium vanity features ought to do it.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
As to longevity, I don't know - i dislike all the fluff in FB, apps and games, but I can see it growing into a living family tree - our parents are joining, our children are joining, and I now have a whole multi generational network including my parents' friends, my friends' parents - you get this whole "village" of real connections if you use it that way, quite warming when like you have moved countries a bit, and the value could grow. A grounding space in a increasingly disconnected and virtual world.
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
@scoble: A lot more than 10$ per user? 1.4+ billion in revenues? Is that whtat we're talking about, or was it just what it worths?
- Martino Sabia
Martini I don't know the numbers. I thought I was being asked the value of each user.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook is becoming pretty common and integrating itself within the non-tech crowd. Is it only a matter of time before they roll out some type of subscription plan? I would be willing to pay monthly (maybe $10) As long as they keep adding new features and keep refining the interface.
- Bob Blunk
there have been stories on FF lately about how poorly ads do on social networking services compared to search advertising. Does anybody have different reports or experiences?
- Davide D'Incau
Doesn't surprise me, more friends of mine are joining it by the day.
- Ed Richardson
incentive ads perform poorly on a CPA basis; conversions occur for the wrong reason and have a high cancellation rate.
- Peter Warnock
It seems to me that FB is more embraceable for low tech people than Twitter
- Craig Mische
It's the apps, after the newness wears offs or the advertisers push back, FB will have to do some real marketing. They have a gold mine of data that they're not using.
- Peter Warnock
@Craig - How in Bob's name is a crazy multi layer, multi threaded, multi page, multi media mess easy for a ludite depression era grandmother to get than a single line where you post 140 characters?
- Matthew DeVries
If Facebook needs to start charging than they've failed at their mission and are leaving way too much money on the table. The power in facebook comes in the fact that they now know what we like, what we hate, who we follow, who we listen to. That is worth so much more to people than the pittance they'd be able to make by charging us a fee at a price we wouldn't run screaming to the hills over. They need to keep it "free" and sell that information to the ad people, the politicians, the entertainers.
- Matthew DeVries
Yes, same here, saw it on FriendFeed first. Also, interesting that O'Reilly went from like (in the URL) to love (in the title). Guess he fell in love while writing it up ;)
- AJ Kohn
"I don't have time to wade through the comments" - That's kind of boring.
- Todd Hoff
todd: I knew someone over on FriendFeed would see that. But I understand what he's saying.
- Robert Scoble
I guess @timoreilly is only interested in letting people know what he thinks and does, instead of interacting with them. it makes sense why he likes Twitter and not Friendfeed then.
- Alejandro
he's a ceo of a big powerful co. he likes to tell people what to do and then disengage. maybe not right, but generally the only way to be a ceo of a big powerful co!
- Brendten Eickstaedt
ok, sleep time. but a question for friendfeeders (be honest about yourself) - do you seek out/prefer people who intelligently question your actions and debate with you, or people who support you regardless?
Hmmm...I'd have to say both. I think if someone did nothing but intelligently challenge me, I might go a little nuts. But I do like good discussions.
- Hutch Carpenter
I don't know. Most of them subscribed to me first. :)
- Morton Fox
I would most certainly prefer people that agree with me. However, I am intelligent enough to know that I need people to disagree with me in order to learn anything.
- Michelle Martinez
The idea of "intelligently questioning" is hard. I like people who are interested in the same things I am, but encourage dialogue. Those that slam me and don't intelligently debate are harder to deal with, and aren't sought out.
- Louis Gray
If I get around people who always agree with me I get bored. It's fun, like eating sugar, for a while, but it's empty calories.
- Robert Scoble
It really depends on what the subject matter is. Sometimes I don't want people to be disagreeing with me cause it makes me angry.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I like to expose myself to new viewpoints... And challenge my existing ones.
- Lindsay
Much prefer the debate although I think I've overdosed on politics for a while :)
- Charlie Anzman
debate for sure. How can you be sure of what you believe in until you have to intelligently try to defend it. Plus, the comments of other will help you gain a more well rounded view. Surrounding yourself with too many like minded people will build an US versus THEM mentality. That's very bad if we hope to progress.
- Chris
I would like to think that I seek people around me that will first intelligently question my actions and then support me regardless. I think those are your true friends.
- WiseYoda (aka Patrick)
Both - people who can have an exchange of ideas even when they disagree seem to be a rarity though.
- Sean Alexander
Respectful debate, discussion and challenge is fun and more interesting; most of my close friends disagree with me on things like politics and that's cool for me.
- Sally Church
looking for intelligent, respectful debate. looking to expand my view not cement it. FF is the best place i've found for that.
- MikeAmundsen
Both, I'd have to say. I prefer that people challenge me and call me out if I'm saying ridiculous things but it's also nice to know that I have friends who will support and care for me regardless of whatever nonsense I may spout. If we're just talking about online connections though, it would definitely have to be the former.
- ♥patricia♥
I'd be happy with either. I hate being ignored. But given the choice, I'd prefer the questioner.
- Bruce Lewis
No struggle, no progress! Incestuous thinking leads to absolute blindness:)
- Roney Smith
Keep yourself out of an isolated echo chamber. Challenge yourself so that you truly understand why you believe what you believe!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
I like the multi-faceted perspectives that challenge my own thinking and forces me to really evaluate my own premises...very cool. Also, love it with folks agree with me! ha!
- Susan Beebe
Regardless, FriendFeed is a great place b/c there are intelligent discussions here, most of the time :)
- Mike Reynolds
The smarter and stronger the opposition, the better. Powerful debate and dialectic are the engine of progress and enlightenment. Let the best ideas and arguments win.
- Sean McBride
i'd agree with that, but it still KILLS twitter's own mobile site where i can never see what i'm typing
- MG Siegler
good point MG. Twitterific's key feature is its built in browser - no need to start up twitterific again after checking out a site. I might keep using it, but I'm sure going to try out the competition in the next few days.
- Frederic
Boo...No Sarah Perez or Corvida. But congrats to the ones I do follow: Veronica Belmont, Gina Trapani, Emily Chang, Leah Culver, & Justine Ezarik.
- Mark Krynsky
There's always a few missing on these lists (especially niche bloggers including the above ... Ann Smarty, and Shana Albert) but this is an incredibly good list (with descriptions). Well worth exploring!
- Charlie Anzman
Ditto Mark, plus congrats to our Tamar, and Amber MacArthur as well (fan of her stuff as well) - finally a list of females in tech and blogging that doesn't involve "sexiest" or "nakedest."
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
No Natali Del Conte either. Seems more like a "Female Bloggers Influential To Other Females" list. Not so much a list of bloggers that have appeal to men and women, except for some like Gina, Veronica, Cali, etc.
- Jim Bergman
Well Female bloggers usually gets 'popularity' faster...but nice list.
- Saad Kamal
This reminds me that had I not given up on the first blog I started back in 98, maybe I'd be on this list. But I don't have the drive and passion these very worthy women have! Congrats to you, Veronica and all on the list! More importantly, keep doing what you do, because it is important and valuable.
- Shawna Benson
What an impressive list! Quite a few I follow already, but nice to have some more to check out.
- Sally Church
ok which one s/we get Playboy to cover ? Remember TC's post of late ?
- Peter Dawson
Why does there have to be a separate list for most influential male/female bloggers? Why not just a list for the 50 or 100 most influential bloggers? Why the gender distinction?
- Michael Tefft
After posting about the bikinibloggers of Urlesque & the wish for naked bloggers of Playboy at http://www.aboutblank.nl it was worthwile to pay some attention to influential female bloggers. Really influential, I'm talking about. But why do all these American sites pay so much atttention female bloggers, I wonder. So sudden, I mean.
- Ton Zijp
whole story is suspect due to claim that blogging pair coined term "fugly" - WTF! :-)
- Deva Hazarika
What does it have to do with America, Ton Zijp?
- Andy DeSoto
Andy, just that the attention is there so suddenly, in such a way that they all make a list (20 bloggers Urlesque wants to see in bikini, 9 Playboy wants to see naked, 50 really influential according to N x E). I follow news about weblogs worldwide, I publish about it daily, so for me it's really surprising that in just a few days all these sites are concentrating at female bloggers. I don't take conclusions on that, but it really surprises me. July = bikinimonth? Like Urlesque said?
- Ton Zijp
I know a few, and have a few others in my rss reader. But this blog post is screaming for an OPML.
- Laura Scott (@lauras)
from Alert Thingy
nice resource, re: formatteddad's comment- as long as there is no bias or exclussion. anything that brings more voices to the conversation- the better! sometimes we need to identify the voices that might not be getting the BIG exposure.
- michael sean wright