vorrei abbandonare la posta elettronica di fastweb visto che fa schifo e cambio operatore: consigli su quale mail prendere? Gmail, hotmail, yahoo? Altro?
non ci sono altre scelte possibili oltre gmail.
- vanz
from fftogo
E imbarazzante il livello di uniformità della risposta. I G-Fans sono quasi più evangelizzati degli Apple Fans :-)
- Marco Massarotto
dominio personale oppure hotmail. Ho abbandonato Gmail per lo spam e per adv associato al contenuto della mail (mi ha dato da pensare).
- Contz
Per lo spam? Il mio flitro antispam di gmail è un cecchino sia sullo spam sia sui falsi positivi.... E poi Andrea, un dominio personale che vantaggi dà di fronte a costi e gestione?
- Marco Massarotto
@marco i costi sono estremamente contenuti ormai. Se hai notizie vagamente riservate, personalmente non userei gmail. Se scrivo una mail scrivendo la parola festa mi ritrovo i link sponsorizzati con tutte le discoteche e le location della mia zona, se scrivo un numero prova ad intepretarlo o come numero telefonico o come indirizzo. In effetti da quel punto di vista è inquietante. Solitamente non ci si sofferma ma condivido le perplessità di Andrea
- ArMyZ e S.elene
Scusa, ma cosa c'entra la profilazione di adwords su gmail con la riservatezza? Quella è automatica, no? Io mi fiderei più di google (che ha molto più da perdere da breech of privacy) che di un provider locale.
- Marco Massarotto
Non so Marco, ho avuto Gmail fin da quando è stata disponibile acontino@gmail.com tutt'oggi attivo. Non riesco a spiegarmi perchè, pur avendo creato decine di regole, ho 1260 messaggi nella cartella spam. Non esiste una regola per bloccare un dominio (non so se c'è ora in labs) che sia uno e questo mi infastidisce parecchio. Non discuto sulle performance e sulla rivoluzione, anche in...
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- Contz
scusami, come fanno a proporti una pubblicità mirata senza passare il contenuto della tua mail attraverso mille parser, interni o esterni che siano, loggati o meno, bal bla senza parlare riservatezza e privacy?
- ArMyZ e S.elene
d'altronde 7 GB (and counting...) free con qualcosa verranno ripagati, o no? ;)
- ArMyZ e S.elene
si, verranno ripagati. ma se voglio privacy o massima o niente, quindi abbandonando gmail il minimo che voglio è che tutti i miei contatti abbiano una chiave pgp da 4mb (cosa che non ho nemmeno io, adesso, nemmeno più piccola)
- peppe, in cerca di nick.
Boh, certo dipende dalle esigenze, a me sembra che per una mail personale gmail vada benissimo e sia affidabilissima, anche sotto il punto di vista privacy, ma non me ne intendo cmq. Se poi uno ha esigenze particolari, per carità...
- Marco Massarotto
@Andrea in che senso hai 1260 msg in spam folder? Intendi msg che non dovrebbero esserci? Cmq bel thread, è anche interessante chiedersi se la mail come la conosciamo non subirà grandi mutazioni in chiave social.
- Marco Massarotto
Grazie a tutti per i consigli. Il plebiscito e' unanime e mi sembra che, a differenza delle questioni Apple-MS, qui Gmail vince e convince per la bonta' del prodotto a parita' di accessibilita' di prezzo e no. Grazie anche ad Andrea e ArMyz che danno un punto di vista differente, sempre gradito da queste parti.
- Zeno
MArco, effettiviamente e' una domanda che in molti si pongono. Ricordo ancora Scoble quando diceva che Twitter avrebbe soppiantato la mail. La mia esperienza personale parla di un 90% delle comunicazioni con gli amici via Facebook. Per il lavoro e altri amici, solitamente meno digitali, mail classica.
- Zeno
@Marco Nella cartella spam ho 1260 msg si :( Messaggi di spam e phishing puro. Ripeto GMail ha innalzato l'asticella dello standard e tutte le altre caselle si sono viste costrette a seguire. Ma non è totalmente perfetta. E' un argomento che seguo sempre con molta attenzione e mi piace tenermi informato sulle novità, ho caselle su tutte le free email disponibili al mondo credo,...
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- Contz
Mo' do' un'occhiata, grazie Andrea. (che poi la vera odmanda sarebbe perche' non ho smollato prima la posta fastweb ma tant'e')
- Zeno
@si Marco, son d'accordo: per l'utilizzo comune e con esigenze di riservatezza ordinarie va più che bene (il 95% delle mia mail viaggiano in chiaro, senza firma o cifratura soprattuto su gmail)
- ArMyZ e S.elene
90% via facebook è notevole Zeno! Ottima idea Andrea, l'ebook sulle mail. Dovresti farlo, scrivilo durante le vacanze.
- Marco Massarotto
@peppe basta chiavi molto più piccole di quella che dici tu :) Il problema è che se usi l'interfaccia di gmail, se lo vedi in chiaro tu lo vede in chiaro il parser... dunque :)
- ArMyZ e S.elene
E' tanto e mai l'avrei immaginato. Il punto e' che facebook ti permette una comunicazione basata sulla persona mentre di fatto la mail e' una comunicazione basata su un codice che e' associata ad una persona. E' un passaggio in piu' ma notevole.
- Zeno
@Marco, se riesco lo faccio davvero. Devo solo capire come buttarlo giù, se dal punto di vista storico o se dal punto di vista dell'analisi e comparazione di quello che offre il mercato oggi. Probabilmente entrambe e provare ad immaginare il futuro. Sarà difficile, non so bene neanche da dove iniziare a buttar giù un post figuriamoci un ebook :D
- Contz
@armyz il senso del mio commento è "se deve essere in chiaro per il provider, google mi va bene. uno sconosciuto no."
- peppe, in cerca di nick.
Andrea secondo me se è una comparazione critica di servizi (che poi però devi tenere aggiornata) diventa comodissima. Puoi fare un capitolo iniziale tipo "breve storia dei servizi email :-) )
- Marco Massarotto
Ci penso, ci penso sul serio, magari creo una sezione apposita sul mio blog. Studio come buttarlo giù. Grazie Marco.
- Contz
Io ipotizzerei anche un minisito/blog ad hoc con un bel domain: qualemailscegliere.it o qualcosa di search friendly
- Marco Massarotto
io scusa Andrea ma non ho capito cosa significa che hai 1260 spam. la feature è riconoscerli e filtrarli, non non riceverli. come puó un mail server non ricevere lo spam?
- vanz
from fftogo
Bloccando i domini o indirizzi dai quali non vuoi ricevere oltre 1000 email di spam? GMail non permette di farlo
- Contz
@vanz ci sono dei software che filtrano mail a monte, funziona con spam sicuro e facile come molti virus così che l' utente neanche ha il disturbo di averli nella cartella spam.
- fakedave
@guido sì, l'unico requisito è che tu abbia il controllo sul dns del tuo dominio
- mizi___
Non penso allora!Ho Hosting e caselle di posta ma niente gestione del dns! :(
- Guido Alberti
@fakedave e i falsi positivi? nessun software ha un success rate del 100%: tu sei disposto a perdere anche solo una mail importante? io no.
- vanz
@guido, controlla che forse i record mx con Aruba li puoi gestire. Probabilmente non si possono cambiare i name server, ma forse il resto sì.
- Andrea Beggi
io ti riconsiglio ENTER, ti fai la connettività nuova, linea voce ed email... ed è un consiglio spassionato, mica lo dico perchè io in ENTER ci lavoro e faccio il commerciale...
- RoBji_plus
non so se l'ha già detto qualcuno... gmail! :PPPP
- MarioMiX
dominio personale con gmail, quindi gmail app
- Nicola Greco
uh, oh...sono arrivata un po' tardino ma sbaraglierò tutti con la mia risposta originale...niente che si sia sentito qui finora: Gmail! ;-P
- Patrizia Re
"I have a nearly-identical one (although much smaller). I love it to pieces. I just dump the rice and water in and 20-30 minutes later I have delicious rice that's a perfect temperature (and kept warm until my meal is done cooking). Clean-up is a breeze, I've never had rice stick or a boil over. I'm always very hesitant to buy item-specific kitchen gadgets but I have no regrets with this device, it's great."
- John Resig
why don't you try out a simple risotto? :) That's cheap and easy ;)
- Marco Pivetta
Un conoscente mi dice: "Adesso fuori dall'italia la carta di credito la puoi usare soltanto con il PIN, niente più firma". E' vero? Anche nei distributori in autostrada (germania, per esempio?)
flod sì, lo usi quando chiedi un anticipo di contante al bancomat (commissione 3% o simile)
- Fabrizio
ce l'hanno eccome (a me capita sempre più raramente di firmare). All'estero però ho sempre firmato.
- Catriona Potts
All'estero dove ? Qui firmo sempre, il pin serve per prelevare o pagare con le macchinette
- Annarella e i trombonisti
il pin per le carte di credito solitamente serve per l'anticipo contante, non per la verifica della "proprietà ". Se uno mi chiede il pin io lo mando a meretrici. Anche perchè molto probabilmente significa prelievo immediato dei soldi con percentuale aggiuntiva.
- Felter Roberto
L'ho visto fare a Torino due anni fa da un collega olandese. Niente firma, solo il pin. Da noi credo debba ancora arrivare. E no, non per i prelievi di contante, proprio per i pagamenti.
- low level
io ho una Visa e, come dicevo, ormai pinneggio spesso
- Catriona Potts
Buono a sapersi Cat, la mia è in scadenza. Per la prossima lo richiedo.
- low level
Io non l'ho nemmeno chiesto. Quando la vecchia è scaduta, me ne hanno data una nuova già così.
- Catriona Potts
Quella nuova che mi hanno dato a marzo vuole solo il PIN, io non firmo più niente. Anzi l'unico posto dove mi hanno fatto firmare sono gli USA.
- Luca Sofri
from iPhone
io ho pagato firmando, non mi hanno chiesto il pin
- Davide Patti
from iPhone
Proprio oggi ho preso a nolo un auto a Uppsala (Svezia). La commessa, una volta colto che non mi sarei mai ricordato il mio pin, ha controllato per benino i documenti, poi ha premuto dei tasti magici e il pin non è piu' stato necessario...
- Gelma
In usa al supermercato dovevo firmare (nemmeno dovunque), alle pompe di benzina pin a go go
- Antonio Correnti
Londra, due settimane fa: la cassiera si aspetta sempre che debba digitare il PIN e poi si rende conto che invece devo firmare. Evidentemente le loro carte hanno un sistema di controllo diverso. Uso VISA dal 2001 e non mai digitato alcun PIN per la carta di credito, né in Italia, né altrove.
- Luca Conti
in finlandia la maggior parte hanno il chip e quindi richiedono il Pin come i bancomat. Adesso anche in Italia (ho fineco) le stanno cambiando: passano a quelle con il Chip che sono più difficili da clonare...
- Stefano Severi
in finlandia l'altro ieri ho pagato col chip *senza* pin o firma, altrimenti chip con firma
- Francesco Mosca
from fftogo
una volta in preda alla confusione ho firmato con il pin (scherzo e chi se lo ricorda? e quell'altro codice che mastercard mi ha imposto per l'online?)
- Aldo Oldo
anche in Irlanda, tutti vedo che inseriscono il pin, la mia visa ha il chip, ma alla fine il sistema richiede solo la firma. Credo perchè in Italia non sia stato introdotto lo stesso metodo. Ormai in Irlanda non firma più nessuno.
- lalui
I love that Bret, Paul, and Kevin checked in. They probably are looking at their screens and asking "what do we do now?" how about ship some new features before Facebook overlords take you off to do bigger things?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I feel sorry for all you addicts. My use of it is purely social.
- Bruce Lewis
I do like FF and use it almost every day. Wouldn't it be great if FB either left it alone so we can continue to use it as "professionals," or somehow incorporate it into a more "mature" version of FB that didn't have all the annoying, time-wasting apps, games, etc. I'd much prefer a totally customizable FF "wall."
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I think FFundercats HO!!!!! would have worked but I'm here anyways.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Checking in by phone while on vacation. :)
- caj
from iPhone
here. anecdote: a friend of mine just signed up for FF this evening. apparently the FriendFeed hype of the last 24 hours pushed him over the top. leaves me wondering whether FF has actually gained users today?it would be a crafty way of marketing the service. I'll wake up tomorrow to discover that there was a problem with the paperwork and the FriendFeed team have had a change of heart.
- JSLeFanu
from BuddyFeed
Count me in even though I was just starting to get hooked. I guess it's time to find a rehab and get all sobered up until the next relapse with some other new addiction. Isn't life grand?
- Usman Bashir
oh hey, look, the added an "add comment" link to the end of the comment list. Huzzah!
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
++Jay. I was going to do the same thing yesterday but I didn't want to pay the money.
- David Cook
David -- this was a $9.95 session but you can get them for $7.95 and there are also 25% off coupons if you do online check-in prior to your Delta flight. That's an incentive for folks to use that service and offload kiosk use at the terminals. Very savvy marketing by the folks at GoGo and Delta combined.
- Jay Cuthrell
Yo Scobey! I like Dave Winer's thoughts on user owned tech companies ... been thinking similar things.
- Jason Cronkhite
well, it's 12:12 a.m. and I'm perusing FF from my iPhone via BuddyFeed before turning in. so yeah, I guess I count. "Here!" (raises hand)
- Don Faulkner
from BuddyFeed
I recommend FF to some of my clients, and there are some companies and nonprofits with presences here—not like Twitter, but I'll be curious how that will be affected when FB takes over more. Most have FB fan pages, groups and/or causes, too.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
И так чятег, пока Скобл не поговорит с нами представителями СовиетФрендфидика, все мои записи теперь можно читать в этом тредике. Пользуясь случае передаю Парню Бухайту и его команде большой привет, в связи с тем что [He can has sleep naw].
- ideali
я вчера был в издательстве, с меня сведения об авторе просят. давайте, говорят, напишем, где учился, что генеральный директор. и что известный блоггер.
- Множественный Митрич
а можно получить профессию известного блоггера? какие экзамены сдавать надо? какую специализацию лучше выбрать - микроблоггинг или аудиоподкастинг?
- Множественный Митрич
Один чувак пришол в чятег и говорит я известный блоггер кто тут тру на первый второй рассчитайсь. А ему говорят чувак у тебя сертификат есть что ты известный блоггер? Вот иди Зайке экзамен сдай потом приходи. А Зайка стоит такой с топором и улыбается. Щас думает счастливым его сделаю.
- Множественный Митрич
Я потерял интерес в данный момент. Я буду скрывать, как и любой другой. Это хромой, что вы захватили этот. Пивные правила. Спокойной ночи. :-)
- Matthew Horton
Hi, I'm Bette... I don't know if I'm an addict, but I can't stay away... I keep checking, just to see if something's new... and I cry if I get no responses to a post. Is that addictive behavior? :D
- Bette Cooper
Yup, I have blocked all the impersonators now. You will still see them, but I don't see them and they no longer can comment on any of my items.
- Robert Scoble
@scobleizer As far as I can see you have blocked not only the impersonators (who renamed themselves back the moment they found out you have a problem with this) but most of the folks who chatted there.
- Множественный Митрич
@meatreach yes, see next thread. Scobble becomes anti-Russian.
- Never Impersonate You
Maxatma: well, that's just too bad. I speak English. Sorry. People who don't speak English really don't have any business commenting on one of my items, except in rare cases.
- Robert Scoble
Why you, Robert Scoble, don't block users from Spain or Italy? China or arabic countries? Those users that comments on non-English languages?
- Never Impersonate You
@Robert, in fact they do speak English. But they also do make fun of Friendfeed and everything that's going on there. You can block them or take part in this fun. ;)
- Множественный Митрич
I prefer FF over twitter and facebook, but all my friends are on twitter and/or facebook. Maybe facebook will get it right this time now that it has acquired FF. If they simplify it a bit more without removing functionality. Then I would spend a bit more time on FB. Lets hope all goes well with the merger. If not I'm jumping ship and going over to Google Wave. oh wait, I'm going to go with Google Wave regardless! ;-)
- Captain Jack
Bu arada Russian friends Turkiye'ye selamlar gonderiyor.
- ideali
@scobleizer i can speak english and i beg you to remove bann from all russian friendfeeders, because we are all from it-community, working in internet companies and we came with peace, you asked for feedback from friendfeed addicts — we show you how really it is being frf addicts, we change names, we chat, we making things that are not serious. Why so serious? Unlock people, they are not bots, they just playing the game of real addicts and have fun. Common.
- ideali
shaun: I started this post to demonstrate that a lot of us are still here and aren't likely to leave. At least not quickly. So, life goes on after FriendFeed gets acquired by Facebook. Point proved.
- Robert Scoble
Beyler, bana bir sey anlatin, bu kadar ciddi olmaya ne gerek var? Translation: Guys, why so serious?
- ideali
ideali: have them send email to scobleizer@gmail.com and I'll unblock anyone who says they weren't impersonating me.
- Robert Scoble
Hector: good morning! I need coffee.
- Robert Scoble
@robert yes they (we will) stay here, I think tat the migration process will take time and after reading @Paul Bucheit, I think that what we all are trying to get even if we don't say it explicitly is to preserve a kind of intimacy (beeing a part of the Huge faceBook community) don't mean that FF community will preserve their intimacy, why should a community be a plan one, (let imagine a community as a set of sub-community) that all.
- abdellah
Wow!! So many likes and comments; is it a record Rob?
- Erfun
@scobleizer thank you, for understanding. be cool, guys we just want have fun here a little. Take care.
- ideali
@Robert RE "I have enough noise in my life. I don't need to have more" - isn't it a lot of noise having 26K subscriptions and 46K subscribers on your frf account? I'm kind of surprised - you create a community that large around yourself, yet when you see a new and unusual activity you just block it right away.
- Множественный Митрич
@Robert, patience? Who's talking about patience? It's about curiosity, not patience. When something strange and unusual happens around you, you can either try to stop it or try to see what it can develop into. You choose to stop - and it stopped. Well, not stopped - just moved to some other place. And do you really know what it was and what it was about to bring you?
- Множественный Митрич
I'm here all the way from South Africa! I dig this service and I'm not quite ready to give it up. Regardless of the news about the acquisition, this remains an awesome service.
- Paul Jacobson
I'm new to ff but find more valuable information here than anywhere else!
- Janet Crance
I'm sure this is part of Scoble's plot to poll all the people who really read his posts, and unfollow the rest. So I raise my hand.
- Shivanand Velmurugan
Just a wannabe. Not an addict (yet).
- Carole Hicks
It might also be a way for me to filter down my "following" count (diff (my followers, scoble)) are the only people I really need to follow. Those that scoble follows, I can safely unfollow and use Scoble as my social media filter :)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
Loading this thread on the iPhone uses 1% battery life lol
- Mark
from iPhone
pardon the arrogance but it really sucks this great forum of sharing will turn into a myspace humdrum. Now I have to find another SM where first adopters and well informed techies won't haft to compete with general "noise"
- earl wallace
I just mention the 1500 mark since it was such an iconic query to see... that and the 500 Likes club of FF posts. It's pretty exclusive stuff... but it's also sobering to note that the subject matter required to get to these levels isn't always a uniform mix of cares/concerns.
- Jay Cuthrell
When I heard the FaceBook news, I tried to quit FriendFeed and I couldn't... I'M HOOKED
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
i clicked the "1488 more comments" and my computer nearly exploded. and yes, i am using an amiga 500.
- jack
Now that I have instructions (thanks LouisGray) and figured out my Bookmarklet! I am LOVING the ease of use! addict - not quite...
- Robyn Hawk
Actually, I lied. I am not a die-hard friendfeed fan. I desperately want to be but have just not been able to get into a good "feeding" rhythm. Maybe I need to add some more friends
- Anant Gairola
I don't need to be addict. I'm just here, everyday, absorbing so many geeky info :D There's no place like FF
- Lysender
I'm still with ya, Robert. Whatever FB paid for FF, it wasn't enough!
- Donald C. Lindsay
New here, but learning. Tips for best use?
- Barbara Langham
@bdlangam From my perspective the #1 tip in this category is: Explore and define "best use" for yourself. Despite potential "finishing" impression of some productive consolidations in this collective-collaborative cognition space, the emergent #cognosphere is still WAY too nascent to assert anything other than initial impressions. March to the beat of your own drum; build your own...
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- michael silverton
yeah sorry, late. was at Shambhala Music Festival, I know tardy, sorry...
- sofarsoShawn <Pop-Rocks>
I'm getting hooked, still figuring it all out
- Michele McGraw
I think I do. Not enough contacts to make a impression.
- Michael Schlag
"(continua)", "il resto lo sapete già", "That was just a dream, just a dream", "Ah Bartleby! Ah humanity!", "O tempora ! O mores!"
- GhostwritersOnDemand
Ma per cliccare un link devi fare tre saltelli e una sforbiciata?
- vic
from iPhone
"Why are you doing all this?" "Because we can!"
- Federico [Kurai]
ecco, ora che ho letto Opera sono quasi intenzionata a prendere la Wii solo per quello :)
- Brixie
beggi: suggerisco anche finetune per lo streaming che ha interfaccia ottimizzata per wii e l'ottimo youtube tv su http://www.youtube.com/xl
- killeader
Grande Federico! Mi citi The Big Bang Theory!
- Andrea Beggi
che è sta roba? sarà mica roba PIRATA? noi opera ce lo siamo comprati coi punti stella! :)
- Tambu
from twhirl
A noi early adopter di Wii Opera l'hanno regalato.
- dedioste
from Android
ora se non sbaglio è compreso, prima lo si prendeva con i punti stella ottenuti con console+wii sport
- killeader
come dire che mi devo prendere la wii prima della fine dell'estate? (chi me la regala? :P)
- Elena Franco (DElyMyth)
Qualcuno ha un amico a Kyoto o a Oslo che mi sappia dire quando quel cavolo di browser leggerà Flash 9 o al limite 8? Gli unici video che riesco a vedere sono tramite http://www.youtube.com/xl :( --- @Elena: comprala --- per i giochini in flash ci sono siti tipo http://www.wiicade.com/home...
- Maurizio Mazzanti
Opera software si giustifica dando la colpa ad adobe e la mancanza dell'sdk per le versioni superiori... chi vivrà vedrà... È stato bello rispolverare wii per wii sports resort!
- Antonio Correnti
@Maurizio, gia' con l'iCoso perdo un botto di tempo in vaccate, ho un monitor dedicato a friendfeed... vorrei anche combinare qualcosa di "serio" nella vita :P (pero' me la prendo, prima o poi lla prendo)
- Elena Franco (DElyMyth)
I like the part: "It's like crossing the streams in Ghostbusters. It's just not a good idea. -Chris Coyier (in reference to something completely unrelated.)"
- Antonio Correnti
Agree with almost all of those, except for #17: Compression. JS and CSS Compression is a blight upon humanity. Seriously, learn how to serve gzip compressed docs properly, set up your server to do it right, and get on with your life. People reverting to caveman techniques like removing whitespace continually baffles me. I also very much disagree with #27: The CSS Reset. This is simply...
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- Otto
idem, mi dispiace per coloro che ci provano ma ci tengo a tenere il profilo pulito.
- Gioxx
No, che poi per alcuni (e ogni riferimento è voluto) mi dispiace molto, ma FB lo seguo poco e non voglio complicare le cose ancora di più.
- Andrea Beggi
Anche per me il criterio è quello, sebbene poi si creino dei paradossi, per cui capita che una persona incontrata anni orsono ma non frequentata stia dentro il recinto laddove qualcuno con cui parlo anche al telefono ma non ancora da vicino rimanga fuori. Va be', tanto ci sono ben altre reti, in rete.
- Zu
io aggiungo chi ho incontrato dal vivo e chi conosco telematicamente dallo scorso millennio. Poi ho fatto una mia fan page se proprio uno sta male.
- .mau.
@.mau.: però certe frequentazioni continuative e ultradecennali valgono più di un mesto aperitivo o una pizza-birra a un raduno, no? (e non parlo per me, ché l'account l'ho chiuso per cui il problema non mi tange)
- m.fisk
@mfisk: infatti le frequentazioni ultradecennali sono considerate valide.
- .mau.
Scusa, avevo tradotto "e" come .AND. anziché .OR. (tanto per restare nel secolo scorso).
- m.fisk
Comunque Andrea sei uno che mangia parecchio, sei a quota 400 amici!
- Stefano S.
Quindi io posso chiederti l'amicizia Beggi? :D
- Dyoniso
@essepunto: li conosco tutti di pessona pissonalmente.
- Andrea Beggi
Il brutto che abbiamo mescolato il personale con il professionale su facebook... adesso i miei clienti di padova ridono di me e dei miei video minchioni su facebook, come quello dove per sfida mangio un intero cheesburger al mcdonald's in un sol boccone, io vedo quando loro sono stati taggati in foto assurde...
- Antonio Correnti
Soon subscribing and following won't matter. Publishing good stuff that people "like" will matter most with the only little advantage in having a lot of subscribers or followers will be that your good content might reach more people faster.
- Charbax
“Under a direct comparison, I would say that RSS subscribers are worth more than Twitter followers,” says Daniel Scocco
- kang
how does growth in google reader users compare to growth in twitter/facebook users?
- Brian Hendrickson
gotta agree. RSS. Twitter is great as cloudthink, but not the best for organizing things. At least not for those with lives that don't involve looking at it all day long :)
- Jorge Chapa
Ask a teenager and they'd likely say they're both worthless and are for old folks. It's all relative and dependant on who your target audience is. I find RSS subscribers to be of greater value, but there is value in the real-time echo chamber of Twitter. The value with Twitter lies in the ability to reach broader audience numbers faster and pull them in as RSS subscribers.
- Jim Goldstein
Twitter is two-way and thus allows built-in communication/feedback. RSS is one-way and does not. I'd have to go with Twitter on this one.
- Jeff Harbert
Dave Winer is gonna come in here and smack you for comparing Twitter to RSS
- @baratunde
Interesting article. I think it is a different animal. RSS is passive, Twitter is an active process of conversation. I guess the same has been said earlier in this stream conversation. For me personally, more business has been done in the interaction on Twitter. I also have discovered more new things on Ttwitter than any other way.
- Eran Even-Kesef
part of the "value" is how much you know about your new audience member. a new follower on Twitter/Facebook/Friendfeed (if it's not a spammer) includes useful/interesting info about who just joined your network
- Brian Hendrickson
Both, mostly, the information in a tweet are very interesting but the author would never write a blog post about such a short tought...
- Antonio Correnti
RSS is like a DVR -- you can save everythign to read later. Twitter is real-time, so most people followers will miss your Tweets anyway. It's all about the spiral of silence.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
All about the likes... especially when you consider Facebook and Google's future impact on our notions of "following" or "subscribing."
- Sam Harrelson
Like the others... it's RSS. Too much gets lost in the stream of twitter. Even if you don't have a massive network. RSS feeds are there waiting for me. And I only subscribe to the stuff I really care about.
- adam christensen
The question should be about value. What have you given to your readers via RSS/Twitter? You build your communities/followers/friends through giving information/knowledge that they find useful. Twitter is about sharing, not selling. Build trust first. Engage. Both RSS/Twitter work in tandem.
- iconic88
Both have a lot of value and the best/most interesting bloggers know how to leverage both medium. Fred Wilson is a perfect example of twitter, blogging and discuss/comments working in concert to create a very active community.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Jim: im a teenager (im 17) - i dont think their worthless. i would have to say twitter - why? if you where to stop posting to your blog today, nothing would be sent to your subscribers... right?
- Chris Clayton
I just declared bankruptcy on my google reader and dumped 1000+ unread feeds, that said, I still think RSS is a very powerful way of connecting with your readers. Twitter is important, but more flighty because it is so temporal in nature. Whereas a feed sits in your reader until you are ready to look at it.
- Peggy Dolane
Who cares? As long as the people are active, comment, join the conversation and come back - that what matters. The source matters for statistics. P.S. Came here from a twitter RT :)
- Sasha Kovaliov
My blog readers pay more than mere followers or even socnet friends.
- Bernie Goldbach
And I thought I heard somewhere RSS was slowly fading away...Or maybe it's time for it to evolve? I would also vote for RSS.
- Zack Brandit
I've always viewed RSS subscribers as being worth about 10x a Twitter follower. FriendFeed is up in the air because I think the number of people with accounts >>> the people who actively use it.
- Gary
Nice! We played Agricola yesterday, and my score was really bad (26 pt). My girlfried did 56 !!! Everytime I start with new strategies (like: build fast some rooms or have a vegetable monopoly) but she always win...
- Antonio Correnti
@flod: concordo! Avevo letto l'articolo ma non mi ero accorta delle critiche (quando uno ha gli occhi foderati di prosciutto...), però in effetti solleva dubbi sulla prestazione dell'hardware. Comunque, l'interfaccia implementata su Android è veramente notevole.
- ►marika◄
su ebay l'ho visto ora a 512, forse si troverà a 450... (tantino comunque)
- ►marika◄
Well for all we know they had a blazing row over the Google Voice and this was a convenient way out
- Mark
Actually not so much surprised. I think they are doing just to keep up appearances
- Antonio Correnti
And to think you were going to go to bed Robert. ;)
- travispuk
it was something that apple have to worry about a long time before, now it is there and it will be big, and it will grow, now what will happen with google health?!!(if I was at apple I will try to face twitter)(how mny are using iphone and will?!!
- abdellah
Apple is the most evil company in the world. Calcanis said so on Twit.
- Charbax
Apple isn't evil, Apple is just making money.
- abdellah
HTC hero is is making andriod look awsome, with the protentual of every moble maker using amdriod (not nessary they will) Apple must be craping their pants :D
- opener
@abdellah, some would say they go hand in hand! ;)
- travispuk
@opener, I truly hope so. Providing some serious competition to the iPhone would be great as we all know that there isn't really any out there at the moment... of course the fact that I love Google products like Apps etc so much provides my bias on that. ;)
- travispuk
Google makes money in good ways. Apple makes money in some of the most evil ways.
- Charbax
I would really like the US anti-trust bodies to have a long hard look at Apple. To me they have always come across as an arrogant company but had little impact on me. However now the "I know better than you what you want and you cannot use anything that I don't let you use" I becoming a real pain in the arse.
- Nick Bristow
@charbax, I just dislike dominant no more. Google is trying to be any where and every where at the same time, were is the time when they was just indexing pages?I love Google product, but sometime they are fuzzy.
- abdellah
@abdellah think they are fuzzy themslef until they have a good product to market.. best way a to run a creative company i think. allow engineers to create the reputations...
- opener
Apple currently makes most of its revenue from the iphone. A very fragile business plan if you ask me. I think Apple is getting desperate for back-up evil plans. An overpriced tablet maybe? Nah, it won't work.
- Charbax
and then I will comment on whoever follows me here...
- Alpay Erturkmen
Louis, I recently got the "high five" DM spam, too. So off-putting!
- Robert J Taylor
from iPhone
I just need to spend more time setting up FF so it is my friend that intercepts all my social media content but only from who I want to read!
- Pentaxfan
Friend feed seems like mainstream to most serious ones?
- jibzy
Friendfeed has it's strengths once you get it setup
- Chris
@robert whether or not FF is technically better than <insertsocialnetwork> its really a question of said network reach
- Sean Scott
Once a week I go through my followers and delete most/all of the spammers, but I only have like 50-60 so it's not hard to do.
- Allison Warnock
Let's hope the spammers and bots and etc don't attack us here on FriendFeed next. I won't tell them if you don't.
- Louis Trapani
from iPhone
Sean: well, FF has better search, grouping, real time, a better community, and more.
- Robert Scoble
In two years on Twitter I have never used any bots nor even tried to sell anything. I always look at profiles personally before following anyone and have never been concerned with how many are following me.
- Gord Young
See, cross posting that offer to Twitter is misleading
- Kevin Krewell
It is fun to watch my follower ## on Twitter go between 200 and 230 it is a constant battle to see what I post. Just not that interesting at times!
- Pentaxfan
Interesting project! Please follow us @streamfile :)
- Kimmo Gläborg
Checking in here...hope we continue to follow each other, Robert!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I'm pretty sure I've commented here before Robert, but you don't follow me here or on Twitter. Not that I want you to under just for the sake of it...
- Gurpreet
Today's secret password is "cheese".
- Andrew Smith
...only if you actually find my tweets interesting enough.
- Gurpreet
It's Unfollow Sunday. Just purged all the bots, spammers, SEO/social media types from my own Twitter account. I never autofollow. Still got the "high five" DM spam, though...
- Dennis Jernberg
Nice when you integrate Facebook and twitter and multiple accounts so you can read all at one place. I have to say I use Seesmic to read posts more than FF.
- Pentaxfan
bit bucket... here i come :) ps: scoble, what if we just "like" your post ;)
- simran
@pentaxfan of course. not wanting to start a FF vs Twitter debate. just saying the glasses through which we judge better or superior are diff based on our interests. Plus in the end FB will take it all :P
- Sean Scott
This is a sly way to get us to sign up for FF :)
- valb00
According to my following list, Scoble was the second person I followed after joining Twitter. A long time ago that was.
- Stephen Sclafani
UX tip for FF. Be nice to be able to click on the comment link at the end of a comment stream. Having to scroll back up on these long threads breaks flow.
- Sean Scott
Kimber: wait and watch http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... and see if I like any of your posts. I read a LOT and if you are posting interesting stuff I'll probably like it.
- Robert Scoble
Sean: click twice on the time stamp and you'll get a window of just this chat and you'll see a comment entry area at the bottom.
- Robert Scoble
You will end up following me anyway. They all will. :)
- Matt G
But you're already following me here on Friendfeed, Robert. How is Twitter going to be different?
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
FriendFeed is better, deeper, yet Twitter works better on the go
- Majento
There's a lot to like about FF, except it needs a bigger community. Twitter is like the iPhone - for iPhone it's all the applications, with Twitter (and Facebook) it's all about the number of poeple.
- Kevin Krewell
@Sean, that is why we are always looking for new and improved apps to operate at a better level with more consistency. Take it easy! I'm off to bed for my 5 hours of mediocre horizontal time out.
- Pentaxfan
Hi Robert, you are obviously going to be following a lot more people. Thanks.
- Rob Zachritz
And I return. (Just cleared my account so I can start afresh with friend lists) :)
- BeauGiles
Robert, you have lost a lot of followers. I have been watching all night.
- TheHenry
I don't get the appeal of auto-following. I for one would not want thousands of updates showing up in my timeline.
- Alex Knight
Twitter -ly ♪ and FriendFeed -ly ♪ livin' in perfect har-mony ♪♪♪ LOL Why can't we be friends ♪♪♪
- RetiredTeacherD
Just created a corporate FF account so you can follow our corporate Twitter at http:/www.twitter.com/senderok - Plug-in with anti-phishing icons for the inbox and photo business cards in the header pane
- SenderOK
I'm here I'm here! :D just curious, what do you have against SEO and Social Media experts?
- Celia
Really? BTW I'm just a regular geeky gal.
- Teresa O
TheHenry: and I will lose even more this week. No biggie. I don't define myself by who follows me, especially if they are there just to get a follow back.
- Robert Scoble
We're already facebook friends. And I think friendfeed friends too. But FF just hasn't hit critical mass yet. It'll be cool when it does. Nice job throwing another rock at the hornet's nest! :-)
- Dan Becker
Rory: the catch is I might like one of your posts and then you'll have to deal with my other friends. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm glad to know that you are still interested in hearing from us :), I'm @tsudo
- Keith - @tsudo
Robin: I have only seen a handful of spams here. They are easily blocked and there are other defenses against them that I won't talk about here.
- Robert Scoble
Are we not allowed to comment if you are already following us?
- RobinDotNet
Are all those SEO types you're unfollowing now following me?!
- Dennis Jernberg
Thing I don't like is that FF doesn't have a very good topic when the primary line is directed at twitter. There may or may not be a link to something after FF part. Which means FF becomes a bit of a treasure hunt. I like FF for commentary but I hate the initial post.
- Justin Howard
Robert: Thanks mate, interesting and probably efficient idea. I'll do the same for quality content, tired of those "I just used whateveryoucallit.com to gain 300 new followers right now!".
- Nir Ben Yona
Hi Robert, I had to do the exact same thing to nail all the twit spam I was getting. Hope you get it all sorted!
- James Brown
Even as we sit here, my iPhone dings with new follow e-mails from spam/marketing people. Sigh.
- RobinDotNet
Stephane: LOL, probably. I took this line from Chris Brogan's "Twitter Etiquette Guide".
- Nir Ben Yona
The joys of not being internet famous means I can check out followers personally, block where required and I've only ever got about 2 DM spam. But with the volumes that Robert gets, it's obviously not possible.
- Rachel Clarke
I think Twitter needs something like captcha to keep the bots to a minimum, IMHO.
- Dennis Jernberg
Robert -- yes, on twitter. It seems the more you tweet, and the more people you communicate with, the more spammers follow you. Hoping for auto-follows I guess (I disappoint them in that regard.)
- RobinDotNet
Good way to filter, you know the spammers don't actually read anything or participate
- Justin Luey
What is the utility of being "followed" by someone who doesn't tweet and who follows thousands? What do they do, sit at their terminal and watch the tweets go by all day long?
- RobinDotNet
First day on Friend Feed and Robert Scoble is available. What a welcome.... Carey@holisticdds
- Carey O'Rielly
What will you do when the spammers/SEOs infest Friendfeed, as they will, or do you believe this is better crowdsourced and will be able to hold against the hordes?
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Rachel -- But numbers alone don't mean anything. Are they that shallow? That must be a stupid question.
- RobinDotNet
Is this going to be the 'most-commented-ever' post on Friendfeed? 240+ already!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Aaman: FriendFeed is FAR more defendable against spam than Twitter is.
- Robert Scoble
and how would this benefit people who follow Robert Scoble?
- Seyfi Erol
That seems like a good idea, but I think you're already following a lot of these people
- Carlton Prest
Seyfi: why don't you follow me and see how it goes?
- Robert Scoble
I've gotten 4 follow e-mails since my first post here from people I don't want to follow. Do the bots start running right around midnight?
- RobinDotNet
Mahendra, you're not following the threads in Russian (that's my only hint) :D
- Micah
Robin: oh yes. But I'm never sure what's worse. the people who just want to talk about the numbers or the people they may be able to impress.
- Rachel Clarke
Aaman - Friendfeed doesn't make link-tracking easy, so it's less interesting for spammers to infest.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Is this a test of interaction or more likely a sort of audience verification?
- Gilgamesh
Gilgamesh: it is what you want it to be. For me I followed you.
- Robert Scoble
If twitter is noise, and FriendFeed is conversation, Robert Scoble followers are their own discussion. It's like using an entirely different website.
- Carlton Prest
Rachel, that's a good point. Is Facebook the same way? I joined that and suddenly got all these people I've nothing in common with who want to be my friend. Creepy.
- RobinDotNet
Derek: heh, yeah, I am watching this, among other things running across my screen.
- Robert Scoble
Robin: Facebook is the same but I think to a lesser extent - it's harder to find people I think. But still got a load of friend requests that I ignore as I don't know them
- Rachel Clarke
I already do. what i mean is if we don't keep FF, Twitter limited to our interests, wouldn't it be garbage we already try hard to get rid of. Or how far can we extend our interests in life or amount of information we consume?
- Seyfi Erol
Derek -- I mean people I really have NO connection with at all. I've only friended a couple of people I work with, and 2 other real friends. I'm getting friend requests from people I don't know at all.
- RobinDotNet
Seyfi: you haven't discovered FriendFeed's groups and lists yet, have you?
- Robert Scoble
I got a Russian-speaking follower on Twitter. I didn't follow him because I don't understand a word he tweets.
- Dennis Jernberg
Did you know that Facebook has started selling parts of itself to the Russians? At end of May, they sold 1.96% stake of Facebook to Russia's Digital Sky Technologies for $200M.
- RobinDotNet
Robert: I shouldn't have underestimated you. You probably have started much longer comment threads on Friendfeed before.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Mahendra, Robert, I agree, FF has been very good at keeping out junk
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Mahendra: I have. I gave away $5,000 once and got more than 1,000 comments on that. But that cost me a lot of cash. Can't afford to do that again.
- Robert Scoble
DST is run by Alisher Usmanov who is closely tied with Putin. You feel ok to that, but re-read the company's user agreement where it says it can share all of your info with third parties. Of course, it's irrelevant to this thread, but I thought it was interesting.
- RobinDotNet
FF is interesting assuming the topic is FF... and/or Scoble's next devilishly clever stunt to generate FF comments
- John Hardy
John: there are lots of interesting topics here on FriendFeed. Did you know you could search by them based on number of likes? Click "Advanced Search" and try.
- Robert Scoble
Yo Robert: a man has to do what a man has to do, so one surfer to another: go for it!
- Geer
Here here! A good cleansing is good, now and then... Starting fresh is the way to go, get all of that nonsense out and maintain a core group of people for solid conversation!
- Brian Partridge
Great taking the tour w/ you, Levar Burton & @VegasBill during CES 09 at the Atomic Testing Museum. I would appreciate the follow back. Thanks Robert!
- Chris R
Thanks for following back on Twitter Robert. Cheers from Las Vegas!
- Vegas Bill
I'm pretty sure we're friends here, only just wish there was a easy way to check... and if there is, that some one will let me know....
- Grant Bierman
Just out of curiousity, why are there fewer spammers and bots on FF compared with Twiitter? Is it because they haven't discovered FF yet?
- Sally Church
from iPhone
there are occasionally spammers on FF but I think they mostly get handled quickly vs Twitter where more than occasionally clusters of spammers just follow each other...
- Shannon Clark
Sally: I don't explain spam defenses in public. I don't want spammers to figure them out. But there are quite a few defenses against spam here.
- Robert Scoble
I was surprised about the spammer comments, until I started getting female nude model followers and I'm a women. Maybe a nude male model but not Sparkle or Hootie McBoob
- Corrine Pearce
Corrine: hope you don't see that here on FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Why are you doing this? You have one of the best listening audiences on twitter! Is there a point to prove that we will post here or go to wefollow?
- David Cole
David: and I can prove that. Twitter's audience has become less and less engaged lately.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, powerful shift by Robert Scoble, I'm really interested in seeing how this works for you Scoble. I slept through all the big news here tonight.
- Jimminy, CoG of FF
Interesting experiment. This is probably one the most commented feedfriend threads in history!
- Menno te Koppele
Plus, David, if you all are listening, you are listening because of my ability to find cool stuff. Mostly that's been because of FriendFeed over the past 18 months. Now I've seen how ascerbic Twitter's spammers have gotten on my accounts.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting. This is going to boost 1000 egos for sure :-)
- Freddie Benjamin
So will it be a matter of just trying to say ahead of the spammers by jumping from one early adopted social network to another?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
JP: no. I am not leaving Twitter. I AM, however, deleting all their accounts so I will no longer be passing them juice.
- Robert Scoble
I wonder how will your FF homepage look like after this.
- ahmet bulent
Does this make you anti-social media?
- Cory Brown
To follow commenters from here on Twitter will be a lot of work for you Robert. Or do you have some magic tool that helps?
- Tibor Holoda
Robert, how many of the 100k do you think you'll still be following when you are done?
- RobinDotNet
~~~> Robert!! Follow me back again. [a] I'm a real fan of the @Scobleizer... and [b] I'm much nicer than some of these sassy bloofers. ;)
- Kim Sherrell
So what if you have all 58k + comment on here? And you have to keep everyone! And your plan is foiled, sir. Okay give or take 10k for the neglected abandoned twitters and the spammers. Btw, you're already following me on both twitter and here. But come on, you're not really. : /
- Lise
That's cool. I am finding the spammers too much to manage these days myself.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Because I can't keep myself from doing math, that's 1.1%.
- RobinDotNet
Lise: I see you a few times a day, but you're right. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Are you trying to make a point about FF v Twitter? I have spammy things to say about my amateur photography, potential homelessness, and run-ins with public-run health system in the US. Isn't all Twitter spam--just spam you want? :)
- Dean Hall
the auto-refresh on this thread is mind-blowing, fun to watch
- nchenga
Do you ever worry about SM burnout Robert? How do you pace your self?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Interesting to note many of most commented threads are in languages other than English. Can we suggest FF has a better international appeal than Twitter?
- Kaan Bingol
Good idea, as you say, stop juicing up the spammers - it'll be interesting to see the stats once you've finished.
- Andrew Piggott
Dean: your Tweets aren't spam. I might keep you. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
I only followed people who were interesting to me, otherwise it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack of brain dumps.
- Daniel Durrans
Exactly. So I expect to be cut. And considering I'm in a crowd of close to 60k, it'll be the same thing.
- Lise
There should be a counter in front of the comments...
- Willem Karssenberg
Lise: and because FriendFeed's search engine is better here too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, yeah I know. Thought you might have meant for your secretscoble twitter account ;)
- travispuk
It's kind of like a giant SM break up Robert. *Oh the hearts you are breaking...*
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
I'm fairly selective about who I follow and I follow so maybe you will follow me back!
- Richard Cunningham
from iPod
Robert, care to explain how you use groups in this kind of context? Because I don't get the point of following people who are then placed into a "I don't read this much" kind of group. How do you use groups so that you're (1) not overwhealmed, and (2) actually read what people are saying?
- Ian Betteridge
How many people do you expect to end up with, Robert? What is a reasonable number?
- Lise
You don't have to follow me on Twitter. I think the FriendFeed party palace is mighty fine.
- Josette
from fftogo
(Not that I'll probably see your response, btw - something at the bottom of 350+ responses is effectively buried until FF has better threading tools. Which I'm sure it will, some day.)
- Ian Betteridge
@Daniel - ditto, and for me it is generally development related also. Robert - I know you have to try and keep up with everything going on in the social media space, but I'm always surprised when people follow so many others as it must be extremely difficult to find the wheat in amongst all the chaff.
- Donald Matheson
Robert: I did not know about that search trick. Thanks!
- Menno te Koppele
Ian: a "I don't read this much" kind of group is awesome for serrendipity. Also, anyone who I find there who is high value gets quickly moved to a smaller group.
- Robert Scoble
What? Are you saying you're not following me already...? ;-)
- Jarno Peschier
Lise: on Twitter? Less than 2,000. I can't follow more.
- Robert Scoble
Jamo: I am already following you. Scott: why not? I am already following you too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it might be a problem for me re-gaining your following as my tweets are not 100% English only (whether that means trying to speak English or no English at all ;). How do you deal with occasional non-English tweeters? As that's clearly a noise for you.
- Tibor Holoda
if only twitter were as engaging as FriendFeed has become, and as instantaneous as things like this comment thread, then maybe I would use it more. Hence why I'm all for unfollowing who you conceive as uninteresting; and if that includes me, then so be it!
- Nick Soden
Tibor: I just skip over most of them. Sometimes I translate them to see if I was right.
- Robert Scoble
It is my hope that I provide you with something as interesting as what you provide me with. Either way, I will continue to peruse your posts with interest.
- Absentee
Hi, I'm still newish to this social media thang - but good on you for taking a stand.
- Jus
Do you prefer night owls? Because what about all the poor people in SV who went to bed at a decent hour and missed your post? Bummer for them, huh?
- RobinDotNet
I'm back from picking my wife up at the airport and ran across this on my way back to sleep.
- nuBound CEO - Mark
The wild and woolly blogosphere is replete with all sorts of good stuff. Hard to follow 500 people, let alone 1000. I applaud you for trying to take the reins.
- Jack B
It funny you put spammers, SEO experts, bots, social media experts all in one bucket. What are you implying? Btw, I'm none of these...
- Peter Chee
.. and it works!! Just got a mail saying Robert is following me now... :)
- Sudar
Peter: I did that to piss off the SEO experts. :-)
- Robert Scoble
This makes me realise that posting from Twitter as opposed to "to twitter from FF" allows the Twitter stream to grow on the back of FF comments ! otherwise not : as in my case - what do you think Robert ? FF to Twitter ? Or FF aggregating all your tweets ?
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
Nicholas: shhhh, you are discovering my secrets! I'm doing more and more from FriendFeed lately.
- Robert Scoble
I comment and you follow me. Its totally worth it
- Arvind
Arvind: even better I was following you before. Mobilepax: no. I really don't care about followers. Inbound is more important than who is listening to you.
- Robert Scoble
and does that mean I have to write in English from now on :)
- Mobilepax
Nice one - it's cool that you give friendfeed (and all the commenters of course ;-) much kudos.
- Alex Vermeule (@alexve)
If you just follow everyone in this thread, won't you just wind up with noise from 'engaged' people. I mean, does this solve the problem?
- Christopher Harper
Good thing its 4am and my car alarm went off, otherwise you wouldnt follow me! I had to look up a video online how to break the key fob apart becuase aparently its battery leaked and was self activating the panic switch. Damn VWs! a replacement key is only like 150 bucks!!
- Charlieray
Missionary: no. You have not discovered that FriendFeed has groups and MUCH BETTER search.
- Robert Scoble
Its funny that if you say "SEO" on twitter its an instant 10 followers
- Charlieray
I'd rather follow you on Friendfeed, Robert. Your tweets get cross posted here anyway, and there's a much greater sense of engagement in that conversation than there is over at Twitter.
- Andrew Terry
Everyone that "follows" you really does know you love FF. So did you build a tool to follow everyone back that comments on here or are you seriously going to manually follow people back?
- Peter Chee
Theres 451+ comment here, do you really follow *everyone*?
- Fajar Nurdiansyah
Because I am up at 1:20 a.m. PT, why not... I must be your target audience then.
- Georgiana Comsa
It must show you how many people enjoy engaging with you Robert, with the number of people posting here.
- Steve Farnworth
Amazing to see the comment thread to this entry expand constantly in real time.
- Christian Bolstad
Peter: I've manually followed everyone on this thread so far.
- Robert Scoble
Peter: although to be fair I've already followed quite a few people who have commented here.
- Robert Scoble
Hi, you are already following me. My solution to get rid of spammers on Twitter is to block them, that is what I do. If everyone started blocking them, I think things would improve
- Asgeir
What about the SEO experts who accidentally find this feed?
- phil baumann
Robert, but you're following commenters here, not on Twitter, right? Not that i care about Twitter that much, as for me it's just a pipeline. FF and FB are conversational platforms for me, or the places i hang out these days.
- Tibor Holoda
Aaman: Sleep? some of us are just starting the day. We're waiting for the US to go to sleep so we can talk about you ;-)
- Rachel Clarke
Spammers being blocked doesnt do anything as they are hoping for that 1 in 100 hit of someone clicking that link, eventually they get banned and create a new account.
- Charlieray
the term SEO expert is a crock of shit
- Charlieray
Marko: not true. It's better because it has very little spam. It's better because it has a better search engine. It's better because it has comments and likes. It's better because it's an aggregator. And more.
- Robert Scoble
you don't have to follow back. but i'll take the chance to say great work with building 43.
- Alexandre Gamela
from twhirl
Massimo: right up top. Heheh. Alexandre: thank you!
- Robert Scoble
After 6 months out of the social media loop I came back to a whole bunch of follows that I either couldn't remember who they were or why I had followed them - how can that be relevent? So, I culled my follows back to less than 200. I'm now just looking to find the signal amongst the noise.
- Colin Walker
What about FriendFeed? Is there any @notsecretscoble too?
- Ludwik C. Siadlak
Friendfeeding for Scoble to follow me while on vacation in Montauk. There is something wrong with me.
- Mitchell Schneider
Mitchell -- you just don't want to miss the fun.
- RobinDotNet
robkeynes -- nice to see you up and about
- RobinDotNet
Ludwik: no, because here I can just start a new list of users.
- Robert Scoble
Well, this has been fun to watch, but it's almost 2 a.m. and I have to be very smart tomorrow morning, which is easier when I'm not too tired, so everyone have a great [whatever comes next in your time zone].
- RobinDotNet
Robert, I'm trying to understand this follow/unfollow strategy you are applying as Napoleon Bonaparte on a battle field ;) Interested to know the result
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
I really do think the way Twitter has changed in the last few months, with all the media attention, certainly begs for it to be used differently now.
- Nicola Quinn
Wow that's a whole lot of people commenting in the last 2 hours, Rob - How many of the new people you are following from this list are NEW to friendfeed? (estimate?)
- Roy Herrod
Does this constitute a comment or are you looking for some insightful commentary on the state of new media? ;)
- Iwan
40%? This must have turned out to be one of the biggest promotions in FF history, even if it wasn't intended that way. BTW, I'm new to FF too.
- Dennis Jernberg
guess it's good to clean up the list once in a while.
- Yan PHUN
Ha ha, nice.... So any major ramifications from the mass unfollow?
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Alistair: other than losing about 1,000 followers so far? No major ramifications.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I'm coming out with a project in the Continuing Medical Education field in the next weeks so if you are interested, I wouldn't mind if you will follow me :-)
- Marco Fabbri
Won't tell anybody, specially Seo people, ssshhhh.....
- Giorgio Burlini
from iPhone
You had me at don't tell the spammers...
- Sean Kelly
I think it's a hoot. Now I'm wondering whether to reverse my recent move towards following more, not less. I do believe that from my experience so far FF is more attuned to building/maintaining community than is Twitter.
- Des Walsh
Des: on FriendFeed you can do both strategies at the same time. You can follow a lot more in one list while following even fewer in another.
- Robert Scoble
Des - Once more people re-engage in the conversation here, they'll realize the continuing outright potential of Friendfeed. I still some here before I read my e-mail
- Charlie Anzman
Hi Mr Scoble, I'm with you (but on a smaller scale) I unfollowed about 150 users on Friday, felt good! I pretty much hang out in FF now at my home page and my groups
- Lee
from iPod
wow...just wow :) Robert, you have many fans !!
- Hayk
Good luck on hiding from the bots, they have ways of finding people.... :)
- Chris Holm
well, who am I to refuse such a nice offer? here I am!!!
- niccolò vecchia
Good to hear! I have only ~2000 followers, but I can't follow more at the moment due to Twitter's follow limit rule.
- Martin Lindeskog
Great way to test the chemistry between FF and Twitter. I like it.
- E-Advocate Network
Robert - I'am definitely not a spammer when it comes to broadcasting anything to people, who doesn't want to hear it :) but I do sometimes respond (mostly on twitter so @reply) to some tweets not aimed on me, but that's what everybody actually asks for when publicly broadcasting anything.
- Dušan Šimonovič
Shhh...don't tell anyone but I'm neither of those (the spammers, SEO experts, the bots, or the social media experts,) though, I like the heck out of the concept of this thread...
- Vincent Wright
Good idea about the unfollow. It was an interesting experiment whilst it lasted but given your lifestyle I'm sure most Twitter messages just passed you by. I never DM'd you however, it was nice to think that I had the option if I wanted to. Anyway I've been on FF for ages now, and what I need is a good FF app (for pc), any ideas anyone?
- Nick Bristow
Nick: I just use a browser with FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Only 530 comments so far? Come on people you are not even trying.
- John Cooper
@Rob Sellen, did you see the comments on the most recent ffundercats podcast entry. http://friendfeed.com/ffunder... Over 1000 in a very short period of time. Although I expect that this post will also get up to those levels.
- travispuk
NOTICE: I am closing comments here because I gotta get some sleep. I'll consider doing this again sometime. Sorry if you didn't get in, but see you tomorrow night.
- Robert Scoble