This was a brochure for college students back in 1992 that advertised the Mac IIci and one of the first PowerBooks. Yes, I used to be an Apple shill! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
WOW! That's hilarious! What a cool thing to have.
- James Hull
Ah. 1992. I would love to go back in time to 1992 with a Macbook Pro or something, and show you some tech from the future and then take it off you and bugger off back to the future.
- Mark
You were a girl in 1992? Oh wait - you mean you were the guy on the LEFT! :) :)
- Lee Drake
Woz and I talked later about the Mac IIcx's. They were so easy to upgrade. I miss that era of computers.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I remember attending Apple's IIci announcement at the Universal Ampitheater in October 1990? Later in the day I met with Guy Kawasaki and discussed his ideas for a board game. I ordered a IIci on the developer's discount at just over $4600. I still have it and the copy of the check I used to pay for it.
- Mike Shulman
Like the ad. I was testing FF email feature yesterday. Did you send from your phone or desktop?
- Nakeva Corothers
Interesting how Apple has always worked so hard going after the college/university student market, especially in the context of the way they dominate sales of computers over the $1000 mark now. It's not only targeting young minds, it's also targeting young minds that are disproportionately likely to be wealthier than average in their careers and invest in themselves.
- Jed White
This is great. I love the come-hither pose.
- Mike Doeff
from iPhone
I just received Jason Calacanis' first email "blog." I'm very saddened that he decided to go back to email for a whole number of reasons. Let's talk about them.
Maybe you could start listing the reasons you know
- Brian Sullivan
Email seems so closed off - it prohibits growth. At least, that's how I see it...
- George Smith
I just received Calacanis' first email newsletter. Which is really his replacement for not blogging anymore. He makes several great points. 1. That commenters have destroyed blogging. 2. That Nick Denton's style of paying for page views instead of smart ideas has destroyed blogging. 3. That he seeks out a more intimate conversation. 4. That email is it.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Please forward them to post@posterous.com. Heheh. : )
- Erhan Erdoğan
I am saddened because all of this is true. Except by going back to email he's taken us back to the 1990s where I can't share his ideas with others (he only will accept 1,000 subscribers, he says). He also is cluttering my email stream which is cluttered beyond breaking. Imagine if everyone did email newsletters...
- Robert Scoble
I don't know about you folks, but I just don't need any more email. I can't keep up with what I already have. I've started replying to my co-worker's emails with Office Communicator, in an attempt to ease the deluge. You'd think IT folks would know that it's not always necessary to hit "Reply All."
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
from NoiseRiver
I think it harkens back to the glory days of yesteryear when there were email lists like the lockergnome. Maybe it's just nostalgia. I don't have a problem with commentors on my blog, but then, I don't have the numbers that Calacanis or Scoble have either. He says he has a problem and that an email list will alleviate those problems. We'll just have to see what happens and see if his experiment does work.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
FF is the answer, possible a FF' room. Once FF becomes mainstream as a sharing and communication tool bogging activity will decrease significantly: if not FF will become the de-facto “bogging” platform.
- Joao
"I'm very saddened" ? what makes you sad and why ?
- Peter Dawson
Robert - Jason hasn't taken anybody to the 90's except maybe himself. The whole thing smacks of ego anyway. I think better just to ignore Jason (I mostly did that before as well so not much change for me).
- Brian Sullivan
Peter: because what Jason says is true. It's why I've slowed down blogging lately. Blogging used to be about discussing ideas. Lately it's been about getting on Techmeme. I share the blame in that part of things. But even while that's been going on I've tried to read many times more stuff than what I write. It's why I still read hundreds of RSS feeds and participate here on FF (I like many, many, many times more items than what I start). But I hate his choice of media. Email is just the worst place.
- Robert Scoble
The remark on commenters is disingenuous -- he regularly turned off commenting on his blog when he didn't want to deal with blowback, unlike Robert who rarely disengages. For a guy who made $25 million off blogging, turning his back on the medium seems like bad faith, to me.
- Sprague D
I think the cap on subscriptions is interesting. Pushing the scarcity button ("Act now -- supplies are limited!") is considered a fairly low Jedi Mind Trick. [waves hand] Wasn't the cap 500 at first? Then 750? Now it's 1,000? Because you can only have an "intimate conversation" with 1,000 people? hahahahahahah...
- Karim
Brian: I agree with that. I subscribed, but with my luck the newsletter will get thrown into my spam folder. Interesting that many bloggers started out with newsletters (Chris Pirillo and Dave Winer both had famous email newsletters before they moved to blogs).
- Robert Scoble
I don't like it , if you limit the communicatin to just who gets your email. Then it's a monologue not a conversation
- Kim Landwehr
Another place Jason is right? The need to have one-to-one smart conversations. If I didn't have those every day and just did my blog I'd be one sad puppy. It's the smart conversations that matter. Most of which I don't have an audience for while I'm having them.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Will you go on forwarding these on posterous? : ) I subscribe your posterous. ; ) Thanks for sharing.
- Erhan Erdoğan
@robert , "Blogging used to be about discussing ideas. Lately it's been about getting on Techmeme." Agreed, but you can't solve a problem with the same mindset that created the problem and that goes to all the A-listers too.. They have always fought / jostled , manipulated the SM streams to get to their way to for google juice, page views/hits. etc Now all of a sudden, its like wait.. whatever happened to the original idea of exchanging ideas ? Whatever happened to passion and integrity ?
- Peter Dawson
Erhan: I'll forward them when he has something smart to say. (and I remember to do it). :-)
- Robert Scoble
Peter now you know why I've focused so much of my energy on FriendFeed. I'm having a lot smarter conversations here than other places.
- Robert Scoble
I'll take the contrarian view: This email was the most relaxed, best, most enjoyable, insightful writing I've seen from Jason in a while. I'm an old school McLuhanite wrt the medium being the message. But sometimes, the message is the message. Sometimes the author is the message. Gotta let an author choose the medium. If this change boosts the quality of Jason's output, I'm glad he did it.
- Michael Markman
Scoble: I think you're wrong about blogging being all "about getting on Techmeme." As a blogger in a niche community, I can tell you that the VAST majority of bloggers out there don't care about or plan to get on techmeme. This particular problem (and all of the problems that you mention) lies in a very small subset of the blogging community--the "A-list", as it's put.
- Eric Florenzano
Robert, BUT BEWARE - the same thing is happening on FF too , the platform has changed, however the attitude is the same. http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Peter Dawson
Robert, the one thing e-mail is severely lacking is the ability to thread a conversation so late comers don't jump in and ask the same questions that were already asked - or make the same points that were already made. Sure Jason has some points, but I'm not sure the direction he took is the road to travel... It does indeed sound like he wants to 'recapture' something that was lost, but I can't help hearing you (Robert) start ringing the innovation bell rather than what equates to throwing in the towel.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
I blog, comment and email. I have a large target audience - non-tech, non-connected biz owners, who prefer the email format. Of course I invite conversation, and try to direct people back to my blog, but the large percentage of my readers are passive - so email works.
- Lorraine Ball
I have to say I agree with Michael Markman on this one. I'm rather enjoying the tone of Jason's writing in these posts. It's brings me back to earlier writing of his that I enjoyed.
- Cathy Brooks
Peter Dawson, really great point. My aim is to find, create, join, or otherwise be part of mindshare... I want to expand my horizons and learn things. I like that I don't agree with everything out there - it gives me room to make a difference or move on. However, I would submit that I fear the Internet is finally starting to mirror the real world... but this is not a cause to despair but a reason to fight harder!
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
it seems that the A-list bloggers are exposed to a lot of "A-List Envy/Angst" and a lot of what comes out comes out as vitriol at not being as successful. It's a very negative energy and I could see how it would start to get annoying. I can't blame Jason for being annoyed by it anymore than I can blame you (Scoble) for blocking people who are always dumping negativity on you. That said, I agree with Ted Leonsis that Jason is pulling a Brett Favre, but I do believe the toll the negativity takes is real.
- Robert Seidman
Well, it was only a matter of time before this whole transparency, aggregation, data portability thing started to freak people out. Walled garden, anyone?
- Karim
I prefer this to: “I'm streaming live right now, come chat!
- Oldengrey (Jay)
I always thought of a blog as a catalyst to cathartic discussion. While I love reading Jason's work, the mailing list is just a one-way distribution list. I have to use friendfeed, twitter, or another blog to discuss the content. If you're tired of clueless commentators, then moderate the comments. Wait a second. . . .isn't THIS a blog in a way?
- Peter Ghosh
Sorry, but while I understand his reasoning, I utterly disagree w/ his solution. We don't need to 'go back to listserve' to have a conversation. In fact, I've been saying for a while now that the reason microblogging sites have done so well is that they really DO facilitate conversation. Blogging is more like lecturing w/ a Q&A session in the comments. Twitter, FF, and other sites have lead us into actual organic conversations. Jason's email is back to lecturing. I won't be subscribing.
- Lucretia Pruitt
Peter: I'm still very passionate about having smart conversations and furthering our understanding of the technology that we all use every day.
- Robert Scoble
Maybe it's all one big joke. I've learned that Jason and I have different senses of humor.
- shelisrael1
I can't believe people actually believe any of this is serious. Calcanis is not retiring from blogging to do email lists. See the truth, see the evidence!
- Ben Parr
Instead of talking about it, let's just ignore it. Don't subscribe. We have to make it as clear as possible that we've moved beyond these one-way conversations.
- Shawn Farner
Maybe he wants more control over his own conversations?
- Omar Vasquez Lima
It was a brilliant move. People who've never heard of Calacanis now do. He is going to be talked about by everyone. Even news organazations are picking up on this. It doesn't matter what you say anymore... it matters how you say it to get in the spotlight. He is a brilliant man in that regards. Can't everyone figure that out. It is all about being in the spotlight. I got that the moment I even saw the first headline.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
BTW, my aforementioned statements does not conclude that I appreciate such ways of getting in the spotlight. I'm disgusted with it, but it makes the Calacanis brand more widely known. Everyone else is the sucker for constantly talking about it. It doesn't matter if it is true or not. Calacanis already won because we are all talking about him. That is brilliant marketing folks. Think about it.
- James Mowery
from twhirl
@Karim I have it on good authority (i.e. I made it up) that he kept subscriptions open until 1095 because that's when Scoble signed up. I know, I know, you would have thought he would have done it sooner, but popular opinion is that he wanted to make Jason sweat.
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
I think the fact that this move has created as much buzz as it has shows that it is working. How many more eyes will see this now that it will only be delivered to a select few?
- Zach Chisholm
Jason, ha! :-D Somehow I'm sure he'll always manage to squeeze in another subscription or two for the "right" people ;-) I'd have more respect for these caps if they were given as powers of two (512, 1024) -- that way I'd just assume there was some technical basis. lol
- Karim
I think Jason has a point. Techmeme and Valleywag have turned an idea culture into a celebrity culture. Trust me, I started to get sucked into the anger and negativity this week, and I didn't like what I was seeing in myself. But honestly? If he wants to push messages and have conversations back and forth without dodging trolls and negativity and egotism, he's got the right idea. If Leonsis is right, I'll be pretty sad. Speaking of Leonsis, LETS GO CAPS!!! STANLEY CUP 2009!!!
- Andrew Feinberg
I don't see how you can get involved in 'drama' if you just stay the hell away from valleywag and techmeme
- mjc
Zach, re "select few," I shouldn't be telling you this, but the Force can have a strong effect on the weak-minded. [waves hand] And please don't tell anyone I told you that, keep it just between the two of us. [waves hand]
- Karim
Your going about it wrong... he didn't go "back to email", he decided to use a "distributed push blogging platform". Your so 1.0 with your blog on your server it's laughable ;-).
- Robert Accettura
I'm a "single inbox" advocate, and have all my RSS feeds fed to email, so Jason's really just saving me a step. I really wish FF could feed individual comments and posts to email, so I wouldn't have to come here. All these distinctions between blogs, FF, IM, SMS, twitter, email... I look forward to the day when it's all transparent, you simply subscribe to the content rather than the medium, and you choose whichever delivery mechanism you prefer.
- Ken Sheppardson
Jason makes some valid points. I don't have anywhere near the audience of many of you, but comments are seriously problematic. On one hand they make writing pretty thankless, because often the only people who comment are ones who want to criticize or attack. On the other, you crave them because you're trying to start conversations. But having said that, I have made a considerable chunk of my living doing PR and I know buzz-building when I see it. That's not a criticism, it's just an observation.
- Anthony Citrano
M. Cohen: that's the point. he's (at least trying to) remove himself a step or two from that medium. To be honest, I take more time reading and digesting an email than I do a blog post, because when you send mail to a list, you know who your initial audience is. Another thing? Mailing lists and Usenet (before outlook destroyed threading) had great conversations, better than many blog comments. FriendFeed actually reminds me of a Usenet-Listserv mashup in that way. (continued)
- Andrew Feinberg
Most high-traffic blogs have way too many trolls, sock puppets, and other crap to make conversations useful anymore. Does anyone remember Slashdot in the early days? I do (my UID is 4 digits) and I never go there anymore. Why? Sock puppets, trolls, very few good conversations. The medium did not scale well. In many ways, Jason has been out sailing and has spied a FailWhale off his port bow. He's altering course to avoid, but the destination remains the same. Let's hope he gets there.
- Andrew Feinberg
This is a personal decision for me and I realize that intelligent folks will disagree with my decision... however, I can tell you that after a couple of emails to the ~1,000 folks on the list I've a) learned more, b) gotten much more response (50-150 really well thought emails each time I send an email so far), and c) there has been no drama/haters. When you reach critical mass in blogging it implodes as the majority of feedback you get is from the haters and the mentally unstable (sometimes both).
- Jason Calacanis
Jason: Agreed for the most part, but others on the list can't see the replies that people send to you :( I'd love to learn what you're learning.
- Eric Florenzano
Robert - I think it's all a matter of perspective, when it comes to the benefit versus harm of doing exclusively email. I've shared some specific thoughts with Jason, but the overall point I'll make here. For you, it's hard because you're flooded already. For me, it's a chance to break away from what's going on during a day and read some thoughts that are shared to a very small and specific audience. I like what Jason's doing. I just, as I stated to him, hope that he's not cutting off his nose...
- Brad @ The Next Web
Eric: the responses from the email list to me are 1-to-1 and that is providing me with so much more value than public comments, which i've found tend to be for a) the promotion of the individual, b) the chance to lash out/behave badly, c) some combination of a&b. I'm getting much more considered response because people understand it's one to one... this means i'm more likely to email more--it's a virtuous cycle so far. i wonder what will happen with email 100 or 1,000. will it continue or go away? who knows
- Jason Calacanis
I think at some point one wants to blog or write more intimately. Instead of e-mail, I think Ning.com would have been a much better solution. It also puts a face behind the names and they can share too.
- Janette Toral
Email may be the worst place, but maybe Jason has something new brewing in email land?
- drew olanoff
Jason - I read your email via Robert's posterous. I really enjoyed that post. I'm someone fairly new to this world of the Web. To be honest, my only impression of you is as The Mahalo Guy who tweets about his bulldogs. Didn't realize there was so much more there, especially your trailblazing in the genre. With a closed-off email list, you'll miss a lot of new people. As for Google juice, Techmeme, etc, look to Marc Andreessen as an example. Blogs only on his own time as he tends to his start-up.
- Hutch Carpenter
I thought you posted the email message, someone Twittered about that. I think it's about exclusivity, or the perception of exclusivity and accountability, ability to quantify. I think if SAR was still around it would be the only (5 maybe?) email lists i would need to subscribe to, so that was the '90's. As far as the focus on Techmeme, you got to just ignore it. Why do people need to know which 50 stories discuss the same issue? I'm glad it's successful for him. There are haters, always have been.
- angela penny
Didn't LISTSERV's die when www came out? This is a step backwards if you ask me. Another silo'd walled garden community. Meh.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I feel lucky to be on Jason's email list.
- Owen O'Malley
Jason, if the responses are 1:1, you could end up answering the same question 1,000 times... and like Eric said, some questions don't get asked repeatedly when everyone can see them.
- Karim
an email list is not a conversation, it is a one way street, Email lists are old fashioned, old school tech Most people have already been there, done that and are trying out all the new ways to communicate.We have moved on to Blogs, FriendFeed, Twitter, etc with new things showing up every day. Who else besides Jason wants to go backwards to the old list days? Negativity is always a problem, but does that mean we stop talking because of it?
- Francine
Email is a follow-up medium IMO. It's what you might use once you find someone who you find worth having a more intimate conversation. I don't think most bloggers get an over abundance of these gems, but Jason achieved an order of magnitude that yielded a large cadre of intelligent folks. I get it. However, I'd blog simultaneously and see if other gems emerge that could be added to the email dialog.
- AJ Kohn
I don't have any stats to back this up, but I suspect that despite all the twitterati/friendfeeders/bloggers hopes and dreams to the contrary, 90%+ of the non-navelgazing, productive activity on the internet is probably still conducted via email.
- Ken Sheppardson
I can see (and have empathy for) a lot of the reasons why Jason (or anyone else) would decide to take a deep breath and opt out of the fray; a large part of the stakes in keeping blogging alive in the next - say - five years depends on a delicate balance between "taking" and "giving back" ideas from a communal place - when the former replaces the latter, things start getting less and less fun and interesting. Also,thislaptopspacebarisdyingonme.
- dario
As for the Techmeme and page view stuff. I suppose if you're doing this for a living that might be a concern. Even then, it's still about content and ideas. I still believe that if you have the former, the latter will come to a large degree. Should you really be interested in traffic you might be better off doing SEO.
- AJ Kohn
Annie, I tried to parse what Jason meant by the implication that answering the same question repeatedly had a greater value than not doing so :-) but I couldn't... I can see that it would *possibly* lower the amount of self-aggrandizing or hateful messages, because of the lack of a public platform, but it seems like the price is replying the same thing over and over, to potentially hundreds of people. Why even bother with replies, why not just make it a newsletter? Or a blog with no comments.
- Karim
I applaud the move. Though I think it is a technological step backward, it seems to me, it is from a desire to move forward with, to me, what makes life valuable: relationships. And although disagreement is important to growth, detractors are less valuable than a reduction in disagreement.
- ·[▪_▪]·
I was on Jason's old Silicon Alley email list years ago. There was something cool & useful about that list that was different from the blogging experience.
- Paul Rodriguez
A few months ago I had a rather relaxed (blame tuscan red wines!) and interesting conversation with De Kerchove - a scholar who knows a thing or two about media - about the existence of collective intelligence and the concept of 'smart mobs' - the central point being 'are we starting to see something larger than the sum of its parts?'- the answer - more or less - is yes, but as any form of evolution, it takes lots of time and course correction along the way.
- dario
My responses to the four points that Robert summarized above: "1. That commenters have destroyed blogging." - this is not new and many bloggers at many levels deal with hecklers. "2. That Nick Denton's style of paying for page views instead of smart ideas has destroyed blogging." - might be an issue for those bloggers who actually earn income from blogging. "3. That he seeks out a more intimate conversation." - less likely to happen if every E-Mail is posted somewhere. cont'd...
- Mark Dykeman
"4. That email is it." - it could be a personal preference, but he could easily achieve the same thing with a public forum requiring a password-protected user account. All this would actually do is to prevent people from publicly criticizing him because there's no forum to do so within the E-Mail list. Unfortunately, there will be lots of other places to do that. More power to him if this is his true intent, but long term I don't think it will work.
- Mark Dykeman
Why haven't bloggers incorporated "slashdot-like" rating into their comment systems in order to get rid of the noise. What am I missing? Let the community protect its own resource if they value it.
- Derek Tutschulte
Oh, and Jason, I agree that 1:1 conversations are the best. That's why I put my phone number on my blog. +1-425-205-1921 -- a troll of mine even called last night (seriously, she did) and I got to hang up on her. It was most satisfying.
- Robert Scoble
Derek: Slashdot's comments don't work to get rid of the noise.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble: You're right, it's embarassing for TechCrunch, really. In a way, it's validation of his move.
- Eric Florenzano
Still fuzzy on why being able to weed out comments rated belowa "4" (5 being the highest) wouldn't filter out useless comments. Deputize your allies among your audience as editors that can rate comments and they clean up the mess. Forgive me, but why wouldn't that work?
- Derek Tutschulte
from twhirl
Kudos to you Scoble for keeping the conversation going. While I agree with Jason's sentiments, that the blogosphere needs to grow up a bit and stop focusing on views/clicks/getting on techmeme, etc - that's the responsibility of the blogger. You can have a blog WITHOUT being distracted by those things. Just... write the emails in a blog. That's why blogs are revolutionary. Email is for suckers. No way around it. Techcrunch publishing the email = fail. Is that really news?
- David Cohn
"This was a triumph. I'm making a note here, huge success. It's hard to overstate my satisfaction..." -GLaDOS
- Eric Rice
I wonder. Considering my first comment (up two comments) and your blog post @RobertScoble - if the course of action is to just ignore it all. I mean - we are feeding the ego-flames here and I think Jason wants/knows it. Robert - considering it's just an "email" newsletter, why not drop Jason's new form of communication from your inbox? Especially if it's a cheap ploy. Would be a bold statement from you.
- David Cohn
Like everything in life, Jason decision probably has pros and cons, but my personal feeling is that his going backward with this one, kinda like Facebook before they joined Dataportability... (conversations remains hidden inside)
- Orli Yakuel
Is not Jason stil bloggin ? hmmmmm.. I mean micro bloggin when participating in convo /Sharing on FF :)-
- Peter Dawson
Here's how it went down: Mrs. Calacanis: "Hunny, you're on the computer too much." ... Jason: "OK babe... I'll quit blogging"
- Jimmy Gleason
Jason is still twittering, so isn't that essentially blogging?
- Green Screen Cinema
No, that's microblogging and/or lifestreaming. :)
- Jason Shultz
from twhirl
Full Disclosure: I work for an email marketing team, I like email. That said, I don't think email is dead, but not the best channel for two way, one-to-many dialog when you have volume involved. If you limit your distribution and allow reply to, then email can spark some very intimate or insightful conversations between the sender and sendee(s). If you become a high-volume mailer, then...
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- Melinda