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The Master, The Expert, The Programmer - http://zedshaw.com/essays...
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"What I notice is that my peers are progressing to more and more complicated and convoluted designs. They are impressed with the flashiest APIs, the biggest buzzwords, and the most intricate of useless features. They are more than happy to write endless unit tests to test their endless refactoring all the while claiming that they follow XP’s “the simplest thing that works” mantra. I’ve actually seen a guy take a single class that did nothing more than encapsulate the addition of two strings, and somehow “refactor” it to be four classes and two interfaces. How is this improving things? How can more somehow equal simpler? This should never be the case. These are the actions of an expert. These experts are very smart, capable, and skilled, but they are too busy impressing everyone to realize that their actions are only making things worse for themselves. In the end all of their impressive designs are doing nothing but making more work for themselves and everyone around them. It’s as if...
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- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
This applies to experts in any field.
- WorldofHiglet
It takes smart people to make complicated things simple.
- imabonehead
Is it possible he's talking about Java programmers?
- Gabe
i really liked this post (it resonated with me) until the end, at which point i felt alienated.
- Neha Narula
What alienated you, Neha? To me, it seemed valid enough but a bit overwrought and trite. I know plenty of experienced, skilled working programmers who value just-get-it-done simplicity -- the "professional master" doesn't seem that elusive.
- ⓞnor
from Android
I'm a big fan of keeping it simple, but some problems do require a thorough approach.
- Andrew C
"In contrast there are masters in the martial arts who learned their art as a means of survival and became masters in a realistic and hostile environment. We don't have anyone like this in the programming profession, " ... what about Carmack and Abrash & co?
- Andrew C
BTW, I dunno if this is what put Neha off, but it almost sounds like Shaw wants to deny the reality of a nice O(n log n) solution beating out an O(n^2) solution (assuming small k, whatever) on a problem of decent size.
- Andrew C
I mean, the stories of the martial arts masters may involve simple-looking moves, but they are also (in the stories) _perfectly_ executed, the product of careful observation of one's opponent and expert timing and precise angles. You might be able to pare down a simple linked list to the bare essentials, but I don't think it's quite analogous to not using a more complex structure _where appropriate_.
- Andrew C
Nice... "The main thing I noticed about the experts I’ve encountered is they are into impressing you with their abilities. They are usually incredibly good, but their need for recognition gets in the way of mastery. Everything they do is an attempt to prove themselves and in order to do this they must perform like an actor on stage. There’s nothing wrong with this, and I don’t think the...
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- Ken Sheppardson
Andrew: Maybe the point was that an Expert would say "Aha! You need to keep these items in order, so a self-balancing tree is the perfect solution.", while a Master would say "Ah, but you never have more than 5 items, so a linked-list will always be faster!"
- Gabe
this part, so much guy/son stuff! i dislike superfluous interfaces as much as anybody else: “There was this guy I worked with who once optimized a complicated red- black tree getting 300% performance boost. I was baffled and ask, 'How’d you do that? That’s impossible.’ To which he responded…” “'That’s my linked list my son.’”
- Neha Narula
This is the kind of crap that gives java such a bad image. It used to be that people used it for what it was -- a simple OO language with garbage collection and a fast VM. Now you have architecture astronauts going off the deep end and making everyone assume the language has to be that way. I believe this disease stems from people who focus more on the process than on the product of their work. That's a recipe for disaster in my book.
- Joel Webber
from BuddyFeed
Neha: So lt's the fact that the language is male?
- ⓞnor
from Android
The impulse is good, but people have such different senses of what is simple, what has quality, what flows with the Tao. It's like beauty that way. What the story doesn't say is the 300% performance boost was on a limited test data set, in the real world it performed 3x worse and all the complexity had a reason that made sense once you "know." :-)
- Todd Hoff
Complexity that's "there for a reason" is the worst kind. But who even talks about red-black trees vs linked lists? TreeMap vs LinkedList isn't the issue, interface swaddling and hyperfine dependency injection is the issue. Thing is, fights are decisively won, but code maintainability is much harder to measure, and even the importance of performance can be disputed.
- ⓞnor
from Android
I find it funny how the article, while praising simple approach, suffers from superfluity of language.
- andrei_c
egnor: unnecessarily so.
- Neha Narula
Neha, I thought the final "That's my linked list my son" was to make clear the parallel with the earlier quote "That was my foot my son" from Mestre Bimba.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Todd: Imagine the situation where you are storing data for the US Census, and need to keep track of the people in a household by age. Since it's sorted and unbounded (there's no maximum number of children a family can have), you can easily think that a nice O(n lg n) algorithm that keeps a balanced binary tree is the right way to go. However, if you bother to look at the data, you'd see...
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- Gabe
I wish I could "Like" this article again :)
- scott willeke
might have created a "MEGA-liked" button:)
- alex melnikov
Love this article.
- Mon Geslani
It's a great analogy, but in reality, the martial arts stuff is mythology. Wing Chun proponents often talk about simplicity of the art, but they'd get their butts kicked in a sloppy street fight because invariably, most real world fights are messy, quickly go to the ground, and result in grappling and choking and eye gouging. Bullshido has lots of examples of this. The 80 year old guy...
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- Ray Cromwell
The Winner says "It may be difficult but it's possible".
The Loser says "It may be possible but it's too difficult".
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And I usually say "I have no idea if it's possible, but if you want, I'll give it a shot. No promises if/when it will be done though."
- April Russo (app103)
More games and players in 2009, but fewer sales - http://www.joystiq.com/2009...
Chieze Okoye, Alex Scrivener, April Russo (app103) and 2 other people liked this
I didn't even read the article. I'm posting this because I had totally forgotten about that toy cash register. When I was a kid, I was very fascinated by cash registers and, for years, asked for real ones for Christmas (I wanted an old manual register and a newer electronic one). Never got one though. Not even this one. [weeping openly now]
- Akiva Moskovitz
from Bookmarklet
Rooooosebud
- Christopher Harley
My sister had one like that and a toy shopping cart. We would play "store" all the time. Only real problem with that was she was 4 years younger than me and didn't quite understand that she had to give me back all my toys when we were done playing...she thought she got to keep them forever.
- April Russo (app103)
akiva - we must be related - i had the fp cash register and shopping cart as a kid - and i remember loving them - i worked in a grocery store for a while and even when promoted i still liked to jump on the register - to feed your need, just head to staples - they have an aisle with some cash registers you can play with - not saying i ever did that just saying my sister would drag me away :)
- Allen Stern
Allen, hah. To this day, when I'm at an office supply store, I walk by and look longingly at the cash register aisle. I also have a fondness for those metal money drawers. Such an odd fascination.
- Akiva Moskovitz
My daughter had one of those 30 years ago and I have it
- VAL D. Zone
Twitter to be nearly entirely composed of Social Media Experts by 2013 - http://broadstuff.com/archive...
April Russo (app103) and Kol Tregaskes liked this
The Winner says "Let me do it for you." The Loser says "That's not my job".
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buying more things because they are on sale doesnt really *save* any money. Its like eating two candy bars that are half fat. It defeats the purpose... but I do it anyways, dont you?
Roberto Bonini, April Russo (app103), Jason Huebel and 4 other people liked this
But this goes against Alice Trillin's Law of Compensatory Cash Flow! ( see http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/enterta... for one explanation of how it works.)
- Andrew C
but do you do it anyways?
- Marissa
I don't do it.... I can't think of anything worse than being jammed in some crowded mall or dept store during the holidays. This is a time to relax and de-stress
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
not just the holiday sales. I do it all the time. I think I'm "saving" money by buying more but really I'm spending just as much...probably more.
- Marissa
No, I don't spend more because something's on sale. It's more that a sale is more likely to bring objects down into my acceptable price threshold. Still, I have a vague sense of my cash flow too. Years ago, when I was first out on my own, I tracked my spending down to the dollar, and it turned out I was pretty responsible, so I kinda stopped. I know I'm still well in the black every month.
- Andrew C
Well, it depends on what you are buying and how much. For example, unless you ever plan on not wiping your butt any more, I can't see a reason not to stock up on toilet paper when it's on sale. And the trick to never paying full price is to buy enough to last till at least the next good sale, otherwise by not buying it will actually cost you more in the long run. If you had the space to...
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- April Russo (app103)
@April - come to think of it, I actually do buy my chocolates in sufficient quantities to last me till the next sale.
- Andrew C
The Perfect Billboard - http://imgur.com/3hB19
Robert Felty, Meryn Stol, April Russo (app103) and 54 other people liked this
My God, it even has a watermark.
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Impossible to read from the passing car, but perfect for blogging. Strange there is no contact information in the text, so people seeing it online would know where to find these creative guys. Couldn't imagine it's really a TV Show ad. Looks like an agency showing off. Paul, do you know where the billboard is located?
- earlyadopter
Looks photoshopped to me, i.e. nice idea but not real.
- Miriam
I'm guessing that this was in England, NZ, or Australia.
- Gabe
It's a shame that it doesn't use true small caps, instead using reduced-sized capitals.
- Mistletoe Glen
Mistletoe: I was thinking the same thing. :(
- Gabe
Attitude: What separates the successful from the failed and the happy from the miserable. Cats know this, dogs know this, humans? Not so much.
MVB (Grinch of FF), Mike, Chris Rogers and 21 other people liked this
Persistence ?
- Eric Logan
Persistence is part of attitude.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
Those who have an attitude of failure are doomed to fail...Those who have an attitude that the world is unfair are doomed to be unfairly treated. Those who think they can, do. Those who think they can change the world, do.
- Alex Scoble
from IM
I believe I can flyyyyy
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
I see this every day... Attitude is the number one factor in success and enjoyment in life
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
And if you don't know what I'm talking about, I suggest that you go watch The Sound of Music.
- Alex Scoble
Killing nazi's?
- Geoff Schultz
Geoff owes me a Macbook
- WorldofHiglet
You get attitude from the Sound of Music? -- I get maudlin, saccharine self indulgent pap -- each to his own taste I guess.
- Brian Sullivan
If you get all of that and not the good stuff from Sound of Music, Brian, you are indeed falling in to the kind of trap that I'm talking about.
- Alex Scoble
I mean, here's a guy who's looking at the prospect of getting shipped off to Germany to join the German Navy and he sings Edelweiss...EDELWEISS! Which of course is a subtle way of poking the Germans in the eye. Even in that situation Georg has a positive attitude!
- Alex Scoble
In other words, the whole movie is about keeping a positive attitude no matter what life throws at you.
- Alex Scoble
It's not attitude...it's their perception of time. Cats and dogs do very little to no planning for the future and they don't dwell in the past. They live mostly in the here and now. If it happened more than 10 minutes ago, it no longer matters and no longer is relevant to their lives. The past can't hold them back, and fear of the future doesn't exist.
- April Russo (app103)
This I agree with - kinda surprising - but agree all the same.
- Alternating Reality Books
You are on the money April!
- Brad Nickel
++ April.
- vicster is...
I agree that April's right. It might not be best to compare ourselves to animals. Instead, we need to figure out which human societies have the most happy people and figure out what we might want to emulate.
- Kamilah Gill
I don't feel that I'm successful, but no one agrees with me. I can not say I have a positive attitude; I've rarely felt that I have much to make me think positively, However, in 2010, I intend to start emulating some positive folks and doing/seeing/being. I hope the positive attitude will follow as I learn to enjoy what I can do and what I have.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
I think it's about being satisfied with what you've got, not what other's have that you don't. Seriously, we're such a Keep-Up-With-The-Jones's society. Sure, I've got my gadgets like anyone else, but if someone buys a new, shiny thing, I don't have to have one too. What makes a dog happy? Simple things. A scratch behind the ear, a treat after he's done something good. People are like that, too, if we would just slow down enough to think about it.
- Jason Huebel
Successful vs. failed? Drive. Happy vs. miserable? The will to be happy. Anyone who leaves their happiness at the mercy of any other entity than themselves will be miserable, regardless of their actual standing in life. I came to this realization when I was 22, and it was probably the biggest epiphany of my life.
- LANjackal
Dogs and cats also know they can lick themselves.
- Rodfather
Lederhosen made from curtains?
- cecily
LOL, Rodfather! I really doubt gaining the self-licking ability would make me feel more successful. I do not necessarily want to keep up with the Joneses, but I would like to be able to see more of this world, do more than my current level of "success" permits. For example, CES on a pc tech salary? Kinda doable, but with serious sacrifices.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Gene Kelly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
M F, April Russo (app103), Jessie and 10 other people liked this
"Eugene Curran "Gene" Kelly (August 23, 1912 – February 2, 1996) was an American dancer, actor, singer, film director and producer, and choreographer. A major exponent of 20th century filmed dance, Kelly was known for his energetic and athletic dancing style, his good looks and the likeable characters that he played on screen. Although he is probably best known today for his performance in Singin' in the Rain, he was a dominant force in Hollywood musical films from the mid 1940s until the demise of this form in the late 1950s. His many innovations transformed the Hollywood musical film, and he is credited with almost singlehandedly making the ballet form commercially acceptable to film audiences.["
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
Watching Singin' in the Rain. And now I also want a pair of spectator shoes.
- Derrick
My boyfriend's favourite movie ever is Singing in the Rain.
- Kendra <3 Three Lions
THIS IS A MAN.
- Spidra Webster
*sigh* I love this movie. He was such an athletic dancer.
- cecily
And that whole scene with him and Cyd Charisse... *loses mind*
- cecily
And the "Singin' In The Rain" scene was shot when he had the flu and a fever of 101.
- cecily
While I do like watching Singing in the Rain, my fav ever is On The Town (maybe also The Pirate a close second)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
On The Town is fantastic, Mike. I need to see that again. And An American in Paris. I absentmindedly recorded this on the DVR. I might have to leave it for a bit so I can rewatch it in a few days.
- Derrick
with my wife being a "retired" dancer and community theatre person we have a lot of his work on DVD and VCR so I would say one of his movies (or that genre) is playing on our TV weekly :) ("retired" is in quotes because she would love to still dance but her young mind's desires are foiled by her aging knees :( )
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
LOVE <3
- Kelly
I design websites, I don't fix computers.
April Russo (app103), Tyson Key, Alex Scrivener and 6 other people liked this
Ah, the value of proofreading.
April Russo (app103), Penguin It's Cold Outside, Glenn Slaven and 2 other people liked this
“Girls do not dress for boys. They dress for themselves, and of course, each other. If girls dressed for boys they’d just walk around naked at all times.” - http://tkot.tumblr.com/post...
Morton Fox, April Russo (app103), Todd Hoff and 2 other people liked this
If anyone at Google is looking for something to open source, the core machine learning infrastructure (like Seti) would be very good for the world.
Meryn Stol, Federico Bolsoman, Mac Sharp and 51 other people liked this
I agree, SETI would be great. But whoa, it would be a huge amount of work to open-source it.
- Daniel Dulitz
Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence?
- Gabe
Har har.... I assume there is ZERO chance of this ever happening.
- Jay
@Jay - I suspect Paul wouldn't ask if he thought there was zero chance. Last time I remember Paul asking for something from Google to be open sourced it was their JS compiler. That took a while, but http://code.google.com/closure...
- Nick Lothian
@Jay: Remember that Paul's referring to (relatively) generic infrastructure here, not search ranking code. But I think Daniel's right that it would be a *lot* of work, since most Google infrastructure is not "productized" and easy to wrap up in a bow for public release. Like any company with a lot of infrastructure, there are a lot of interdependencies that would be difficult to untangle. I think it would probably be better to simply publish papers on how it works, as with GFS, BigTable, etc.
- Joel Webber
Boy, that would be a bold move Paul. Agreed that it would help out many though!
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
How about just dumping the source to the web without all the dependencies, even if it doesn't even compile? If it looks useful enough there's a good chance someone would adopt it.
- Jim Norris
I suspect you're right about that, Jim. But Google would probably catch more crap about a "throwing it over the wall and letting it stagnate" open-sourcing than it's worth. But maybe I'm just down on it because Google catches crap no matter what these days...
- Joel Webber
It's hard to open source distributed algorithms -- there's no obvious public standard to use, and the reasonable choices (TCP sockets? MPI?) are nothing like Google's internal infrastructure. I think a paper would be more useful than source code, the way MapReduce papers lead to Hadoop. Paul, have you looked at Vowpal Wabbit (http://hunch.net/~vw/)? It has experimental support for cluster parallelism, and I hear good things about it.
- ⓞnor
Well, it doesn't have to be an either/or issue.
- Jim Norris
If the code is too hard to separate from the infrastructure, then maybe a compute service like EC2 that provides an application interface specifically for solving problems with SETI could be good for both the world and good for the Google.
- Bill Strathearn
@Bill: Now *that* sounds like a good idea to me, especially if accompanied by a paper describing the algorithms in use.
- Joel Webber
Although technically really interesting and usefully, I do think that Google will not open source or even give inside information about such a key differentiating technology in the hands of their competitors. But I agree that it would be really great for the world.
- yusuf arslan
I saw mention of JS open sourcing, did you folks see CoffeeScript yet? great stuff from Jashkenas, http://jashkenas.github.com/coffee-...
- Mark Essel
The value of "differentiating technology" is not in novel algorithms, but in the thousands of places where implementations of these algorithms have been fixed and customized and tuned to solve the problem at hand -- which wouldn't have to be described in a whitepaper.
- Tudor Bosman
@Tudor Bosman: I do not agree that the competitive advantage is the knowledge of fine tuning and implementing the algorithms. The concept/design of Google's machine learning infrastructure is very important. Don't get me wrong, I do think that Google SHOULD open source this. But I think they WILL not because of business considerations.
- yusuf arslan
btw, ML+AI papers by Google - http://research.google.com/pubs... - http://research.google.com/pubs...
- Amund Tveit
I think even just a paper would be very useful and fruitful.
- Ruchira S. Datta
Ruchira, do you have particular biological datasets in mind? Are they too large even for a single machine version of Vowpal Wabbit to comfortably cope with (say, several tens or hundreds of billions of labeled instances)?
- Simon
Simon, my comment was just general. Now that you mention it, I could use Vowpal Wabbit on some of my projects, which are not anywhere close to that big. Thanks for the tip!
- Ruchira S. Datta
"The need for opensource in machine learning" http://jmlr.csail.mit.edu/papers... (author affiliations of relevance)
- Amund Tveit
I read the three books in less than two weeks; friends ask how that was possible. The trick is to avoid not only Facebook and Twitter but also: celebrity news, cable news, Oprah, Jerry Springer, American Idol, The Swan, other reality-TV shows, professional wrestling, violent pornography, positive psychology and right-wing Christian fundamentalism. - http://silas216.tumblr.com/post...
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I would also add video games to that list. Once you cancel out these things, it's surprising out quickly one can read three books.
- Steven Perez
+ books have to be good.
- Jemm
Well, it doesn't work any other way. :)
- Steven Perez
i don't do any of those things. even with taking care of two little kids full time, i generally polish off a book a week when i have new reading matter available. i can never seem to find enough GOOD books or places to store them. been unloading alot in the past year, actually.
- Joe Silence
i need more bookshelves!
- Joe Silence
So say we all.
- Steven Perez
Which reminds me: I better hit the book store before I head down to the border. The way I hear it, the last book store in Laredo will be shuttered by the time I get there. :(
- Steven Perez
I average a book every 10 days, but it took me MONTHS to read Infinite Jest. I use Facebook and Twitter and have a 2yo. I mostly read before sleep - daytime nap included :o)
- Mellissa
Reading has gotten a lot easier in recent years as I've pared down my TV watching to almost nothing. It's always amazed me how much information about the world around us we let get past because we've got our noses into any of the above.
- Steven Perez
If I didn't watch TV, I'd read a whole book in a single night. I mean, with nothing else to do, that's a lot of time. It typically only takes ~8 hours to read a good book.
- Otto
GTD In the Early 19th Century - http://www.donationcoder.com/Forums...
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Quote @field: [ ] plow @axe: [ ] chop wood [ ] kill chicken Source Article
- Fake Name
@washtub: [ ] wash dishes [ ] bathe children [ ] do laundry
- April Russo (app103)
What is the optimum number of tweets per day? 22 according to this analysis http://blog.hubspot.com/blog... #twitter (via @bradfordcross)
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Just because you only met social media idiots does not mean that everybody is one … - http://crueltobekind.org/just-be...
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It's very true. It's just that the weight of deadwood is so very high....
- WorldofHiglet
Elf Ears - http://9gag.com/gag...
Alex Scrivener, guruvan (Rob Nelson), Jason Huebel and 27 other people liked this
That's dedication. Elf or Vulcan?
- Raphael, Raphael
Ouch.
- Louis Trapani
I second the "Ouch".
- Fa La La La Lindsay
HOLY CRAP.
- Joe Silence
Yup that looks painful.
- AJ Batac
Looks like one of those Navi people from Avatar.
- Jason Hill
Ho. Lee. Shit.
- Ciaoenrico
Why!?
- Jeff P. Henderson
вверх идиотизма. нам только эльфов нехватает
- wm-ecomers.ru
ohha bu ne be???
- ''sewimsizbilgin''
I like elf and Vulcan people, ma this is too much.
- Stefania Cabitza
Geçmedi mi bunun modası hala?
- siniroluyorum
hot
- Will Higgins™
OMG that looks really painful and frightfully strange... something they will definitely regret later LOL
- Susan Beebe
But you still have earlobes, it doesn't count.
- Richard A.
Can you be an elf when you wear this elf thing? pff.. stupid..
- 535u
Ummmm, no. Just no.
- Jason Huebel
I suppose there are worse things you could do to yourself, though.
- Jason Huebel
OMG... awesome for about 3 days a year
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
I'm at the hardware store buying caulk and nuts. DON'T LAUGH.
Kol Tregaskes, April Russo (app103), Jeff P. Henderson and 12 other people liked this
*tries not to laugh*
- ha3rvey (Ho)^3
Laugh about what? *spit take*
- s t e v e
"We don't have any black caulk. You want some white caulk?" "Yes, white caulk."
- edythe
Madame Hagitha!
- T. Brent, technopeasant
What a great premise for a stand-up comic.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
No. Really I had to buy caulk and nuts. I swear. FML
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
from FreshFeed
*snort*
- Ayşe E.
Unsubbed from all the private bitching rooms. A toxic atmosphere is not my thing. If I wanna bitch about something in my life, I'll do it in my feed.
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I understand the cathartic need to vent. I understand that sometimes you want to vent about something that you don't want anyone else seeing. That's not me, though. If I get that pissed off over what someone does or says, I back away from the keyboard and go do something else for a while.
- Steven Perez
And frankly, the transition of many of these rooms from "damn, THING X in my life is driving me nuts" to "hey, let's all point and laugh at FriendFeeder X and their obtuse behavior" pretty much guaranteed that I no longer give two tugs of a dead dog's cock about what goes on there. Somebody's acting stupid? Great; unsub or block them and be done with that. Piling on the bastard in private like it's the Ides of March and Caesar just walked in is not my idea of a good time.
- Steven Perez
what about THREE tugs?
- Joe Silence
I guess what I'm saying is, if you feel secure enough in the knowledge that someone is acting like an ass, then the proper thing to do is tell them that they're acting like an ass. I'm not much into pointing and laughing, since I've been on the receiving end of that shit sandwich in real life, and I can't imagine doing that to someone else. Even if it's someone I might not ever meet in person.
- Steven Perez
You missed one.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Did I? (Damn Greasemonkey script keeps hiding the Unsubscribe link)
- Steven Perez
Private bitching rooms, to me, are just a place for your "friends" to talk shit about someone but too much of a pussy to do it out in the open.
- Outsanity
It's hard to a keep a room from going in that direction. Even with the best of intentions it gets rough. I'm having an issue where it is not the appropriate time for me to go near those rooms, but people kept making me admin. I feel obligated to poke my head in to chill everyone out, but don't seem to have the energy anymore.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Wow... seems a lot of you guys have private bitching rooms. I'm only in bitchfest.
- Yolanda
Believe me, Yolanda. You are better off as you are.
- Steven Perez
from IM
I actually stay out of Bitchfest (despite everyone cross-posting) as I couldn't handle the negativity because I work really hard to fight it in my own thinking, but it was nice to have a semi-private place to vent about work issues (before I left) where my comments couldn't be easily found by the coworkers who were making my life hell.
- joey
Well said. I have nothing against private rooms or against private bitching, but private pile-ons are lame. And I should know, because I have participated in plenty of them.
- s t e v e
Private bitching rooms? What? And here I've been bitching publicly all this time!
- Mark "DerBingle" J
I steer well clear of private rooms for stuff like that.... *whistles*
- Roberto Bonini
Someone should expose them, Stevie. A member should take screen shots of the shitty comments and post them in another room, a very popular room, under an alias username, so that the rest of FF can see what sort of people really lurk around here.
- Christopher Harley
Regular people.
- Amber, Random Time Lord
Well, I would have to start with myself, Mr. Harley. Which is one of the reasons I bailed on the private bitching rooms - because it is way too easy to start piling on some poor bastard. And I've certainly been guilty of that myself.
- Steven Perez
Ugh. The knowledge that there are rooms on here where that kind of stuff goes on is making me sick to my stomach. Good for you for walking away from that, Steven.
- Jim Will Miss SP
Really? Here I thought FriendFeed was the one place we could all get along without that sort of toxic behavior. #naiveericaisnaive
- EricaJoy
The Day My Father Said He Loved Me http://geekandahalf.posterous.com/the-day...
Kol Tregaskes, Darren Heydon, April Russo (app103) and 14 other people liked this
Damn, D, you gonna get me all choked up on a Sunday morning.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I teared up a lil when reaing this :-)
- Cardeen Martinez
from iPhone
Thanks everyone. My father and I have had a rocky relationship in the past, for reasons that we're both guilty and responsible for. I think we're finally in a place where we are making use of the present and the future and letting that old crap go.
- Derrick
I had much the same sort of relationship with my dad .. he always too cynical for me , never really got close until it was too late .. be kind to your parents ..
- johnpiercy
Just wonderful, Derrick
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
from iPhone
The Ultimate Vegetarian Christmas Dinner: 43 Vegetables, No Turkey - http://network.nature.com/hubs...
April Russo (app103), Derrick, rowlikeagirl and VAL D. Zone liked this
I'm not vegetarian, but it's interesting nonethe less> Mind you, I do not like turkey, so I'd rather eat this than a Turkey dinner for sure!
- Ian May
from Bookmarklet
Looks wonderful!
- rowlikeagirl
That's what I thought!
- Ian May
Our family holiday dinners usually include about 6 vegetables plus turkey. I learned long ago to fill my plate with veggies and nobody would notice I skipped the turkey.
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
I like most things, just not turkey. Anyway it is healthier to eat more vegetables and less meat.
- Ian May
Wanted: aggressive people with no lives - http://geekfeminism.org/2009...
Jimminy Fuller and April Russo (app103) liked this
Awesome. At least it saves time in that you know not to even bother reading to the end of the job advert. Good catch.
- WorldofHiglet
Perfect Attention (With a Little Help from My Friends) - http://nick.typepad.com/blog...
April Russo (app103) liked this
Turtle-Scotch Brownies - http://pixie-baker.blogspot.com/2009...
MafiaX, T. Brent, technopeasant, April Russo (app103) and 6 other people liked this
"These brownies were perfect. Fudgy, dense, dark and infused with toasted walnuts. Had it not been for my recent disturbing obsession with cooking sugar, I would have left these babies alone. But I wanted to keep riding the wave of caramel making success and jump into the even sweeter world of butter and brown sugar. Butterscotch is much easier to make than caramel (so simple, I was almost disappointed). It's richer and sweeter all at the same time. The butter and use of dark brown sugar make this sauce sinful yet despite how hot it is, you just can't stop yourself from tasting some of it as it drips off the whisk."
- Derrick
from Bookmarklet
There's a dude her who looks like the lovechild of Pee-Wee Herman & Mark Almond.
Kol Tregaskes, April Russo (app103), Christopher Harley and 6 other people liked this
I have a picture of him.
- Admiral Anika
You tease!
- Mark H
Let me upload it first!
- Admiral Anika
So. The waiting begins.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
Ha...I've only uploaded up to Race 3. I think I saw him around Race 5. I took over 400 photos, so I'm culling. Patience.
- Admiral Anika
Here it is! http://friendfeed.com/fabooma...
- Admiral Anika
Lovechild of Pee-Wee Herman and Mark Almond. Tell me I'm lying. =) - http://www.flickr.com/photos...
April Russo (app103), Fa La La La Lindsay, John (a.k.a. dendroica) and 2 other people liked this
spinach and cheese strata - http://smittenkitchen.com/2009...
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April Russo (app103), Mahdi Ebrahimi, Steven Perez and 4 other people liked this
Me still walking around pissed about the grabage pail put on the cd player and what comes up but Catherine Wheels' You Piss Me off You Insensitive Fuck now I am in a better mood ......thanks CW
April Russo (app103) and Laura B. liked this
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