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Translation: Oprah ain't coming here! - Robert Scoble from iPhone

Huh? - Charlie Anzman

Nonsense. When does a bunch of features become a service? What if FF has more features than Twitter (it does) - is it somehow less of a service than Twitter? - Leo Laporte

Charlie: Jason wants some engagement. Can't you tell? - Robert Scoble from iPhone

You mean Friendfeed will become necessary infrastructure for any social network? I fail to see how that's a bad thing. - Victor Ganata

We already have Guy Kawasaki, we don't need Ashton, or Oprah. - Matt Ruiz

There's not a lot of discussion about a friendfeed business model, generally, in the blogosphere, is there? I wonder why this is? Friendfeed continue to innovate and come up with great ideas and ways to receive, filter and digest information and it's clear that other sites copy their ideas. I am definitely not keen for FF to go mainstream - personally I like the fact that I can keep my circle of friends here to those (primarily tech/web) folks that I want to gather information from and interact with. - Matt Hooper

Jason is right though. I wonder what FriendFeed is going to be in the future. It clearly hasn't grown enough and isn't differentiated enough to be taken seriously. - Robert Scoble from iPhone

When Google Wave was first announced, I thought "Hey, it's a lot like FriendFeed." Maybe Google Wave stole it's thunder, but FriendFeed feels like what e-mail would look like if it was designed today. - Scott Loganbill

Come to mention it, does anyone remember Google Wave since the announcement? - Scott Loganbill

Scott: I'll remember it when it's actually released. - Matt Ruiz

Actually... everything is a feature. 'Communication' is the service. - Johnny Worthington

My point is that I don't think there is a viable business model for FF as a standalone business. FF as a feature set has already gone mainstream: It's called FACEBOOK. And FF-like features will be integrated into most social networks. FF like features will be "copied" and tightly integrated into other services. So where does that leave FF? How will FF make money? How will FF grow a... more... - Jason Goldberg

Err... Facebook was mainstream before it got the 'feature set'. Facebook exists based on ads that everyone hates and the only reason everyone is there is because everyone else is there... just like it was with Myspace. You are looking at the pork roast before you even fattened the pig. Think of all the massive online experiments that are now floundering. Digg was hot. Everyone had a... more... - Johnny Worthington

Jason - I think I know from where your comment comes :) XING is/will implement more or less ALL FF features. I have been watching for a while SocialMedian/XING and now in particular with XING Partner Ecosystem is you guys plan to open..this is where you are going. But ovearll I think you are missing the point that FF is not about features but about "communication and communities" . And its growing.. - TechFuga

I'm a big FF fan. It's an awesome service. The question I have is there a market for this as a sustainable standalone service? - Jason Goldberg

FriendFeed is one on the online services I'd pay for. Effective aggregation of diverse social media feeds has both business and personal value. Such a service is only valuable if it integrates the feeds I want to see, not just one. Conversely, I would not pay for Facebook; its signal/noise ratio is far too low to be a useful aggregator, and appears to be evolving into an advertising platform. - David Lounsbury

What Jason means is that "social" is a feature which will be integrated into everything. Friends, sharing, liking, commenting, etc will eventually find their into pretty-much every internet service, from writing documents through to video hosting. Google Reader is the first (but not only) example of this - and it may (and I emphasise "may", not "will") mean that friendfeed becomes redundant. - Ian Betteridge

Your child has the most value after it has been potty trained and finished second grade. Do you sell it then? - Todd Hoff

cool ! i want to see FF everywhere. in all social networks, I jus love to have mi FF in Twitter, Bing, Facebook,iLike - Đoи яамoη from twhirl

This might hold water if Google Wave wasn't announced, or if you didn't listen to Bret Taylor at Crunchup. The future isn't FriendFeed-like features getting added to every walled garden social networking site: the future is federated social networking. It doesn't matter that you have the same features as someone else, in fact, that's to your benefit, because in the future, if you can't... more... - Mark Trapp

Another example of how flawed this line of thinking is: end of the 90s. Search was just a "feature" to larger portal sites. Guess who won? The one company that offered search as a service. The history of technology is littered with examples of winners who implemented one thing really well and losers who tried to do everything. - Mark Trapp

I'm not convinced that Google Wave is going to be anything other than another walled garden, to be honest. But I don't think your argument really holds water, Mark. I remember not that long ago site owners who didn't want comments on content, and who argued that users' comments should be confined to linked-to forums - for exactly the same reasons you're outlining. Sharing, liking,... more... - Ian Betteridge

I think Mr. Goldberg could be on the money here. "Look, FF is an awesome service with a great early-adopter tech-savvy loyal userbase. But what does that get FF? Would someone acquire FF today for the userbase or the technology?" Nope, but maybe for the talented engineers. ;) - Pete Delucchi

FF is a service, it might become just a feature under Facebook. Whichever service remains as an independent aggregator is where I'll move if that happens. - Allred from Android

Who is this guy and why are we concerned about his tales of the future? - Fleagle

@Fleagle ... Jason Goldman started SocialMedian, a robust, and well-respected social media sharing service that's very similar in many respects to FF, and he sold it to, I think, Xing. - .LAG liked that

Now this makes sense. Thanks. - Fleagle

A feature? The Friendfeed website seems much more of a viable service than Twitter. - Hunt from iPhone