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Portugal: uma economia movida a estágios, o paraíso dos patrões
ovigia, Armando Alves, Marcos Marado and 3 other people liked this
O tédio sempre foi um dos piores inimigos do homem. Mas o que a Internet possibilita é escapar definitivamente ao tédio e ascender ao sublime. É por isso que pessoas banais (Francisco Moita Flores, Miguel Sousa Tavares, Pinto Balsemão, Rupert Murdoch) a detestam. E é por isso que políticos medíocres (José Sócrates) lidam mal com ela.
Armando Alves, Luis Canau, Carlos Canau and Marcos Marado liked this
Basta passar algumas semanas online para perceber que o sublime e a felicidade são bem mais acessíveis do que se pensa e que não têm nada a ver com o dinheiro. Arte, música, cinema, literatura, "tudo à distância de um clique", sem ter que suportar os controlos de intermediários que não buscam o sublime mas sim o que lhe mais convém em termos económicos e ideológicos. Nesse sentido, a Internet é a concretização dos sonhos dos situacionistas: ela abole o tédio e substitui em seu lugar a imaginação e a criatividade sem limites. Porque cada um pode criar o seu próprio "espectáculo" e não ser sujeito ao "Espectáculo" banal do capitalismo burguês.
- Miguel Caetano
Twitter's New Home Page Is All About Search - http://lslinks.laughingsquid.com/twitter...
Armando Alves, cecily and Johni Fisher liked this
Dilbert comic strip for 07/09/2009 from the official Dilbert comic strips archive. - http://dilbert.com/strips...
Ruben, Paulo Gomes, Nuno Monteiro and 2 other people liked this
Sadly, this seems very familiar to me...
- Rui Pires
from Bookmarklet
Mergulhadores profissionais húngaros descobriram VINHOS DO PORTO com 200 anos http://www.portugalglobal.pt/PT...
Carlos Canau, Marcos Marado, Armando Alves and Nuno Monteiro liked this
Feedstats for Friendfeed is way cool http://www.feedstats.info/
Dani Radu, Anand Sharma, Russ Jackson and 17 other people liked this
Written up here: http://www.louisgray.com/live...
- Louis Gray
Sarah Perez/RWW: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- Louis Gray
Seems like it's not working for me. I get this: Warning: file_get_contents(cache/Niki1601/ppd.txt) [function.file-get-contents]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/content/m/b/o/mbockenstedt/html/feedstats.info/getStats.php on line 9
- Niki Costantini
That's odd... I was able to load http://www.feedstats.info/niki160... first try.
- Daniel J. Pritchett
from IM
Niki: Try again I got the same errors in the first try, after that it worked well
- Luis Enrique León
Yup it most certainly is.
- Toby Graham
Ok, trying again, thank you Luis
- Niki Costantini
Wow! Works just fine now, thank you!
- Niki Costantini
Would be cool if in the bar charts (most likes, most columns, like compatibility) you could click the bars of the users to bring up their profiles/feeds.
- dthree
In the next hour or so I will pass 37,000 subscribers. friendfeed's growth is accelerating. It is about time to look for a new shiny object. The celebrities will be here soon.
Armando Alves, Frode Stenstrøm, Kol Tregaskes and 96 other people liked this
lol
- Capn' One Eye - adrift
I think 1,000 have followed me this week alone. It's amazing to watch the early adopters catch on to what Louis Gray showed me more than a year ago.
- Robert Scoble
lol....well that proves Robert is the one and only cutting-edge celebrity we all gotta follow! 37k subs on ff is gr8. and i gotta work like a dog to reach even 1k.
- Freddie Benjamin
ugh :)
- Stefanie Hahn
oh please don't say that. oh no. I just got here.
- Rick Fisher
Rick: you're safe for another month or maybe two. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Shhhhh!
- Jeff Betts
How the hell are you digesting all this data, are you a robot in disguise ?
- Ryan Erickson
I wish I had time to figure out friend feed! I'm computer savvy and this one has me stumped! Send me a basic video please! I've got some of the basics down, but the community aspect and how to communicate has me stumped...other than when you send me here from twitter.
- Hummie
Ryan: I have high resolution screens and I type fast. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Isn't that just like a man? Gets your heart all a flutter and then he moves on.
- Sharon McPherson
Hummie: I showed Jimmy Wales friendfeed on Saturday night: http://www.ustream.tv/recorde... -- that might help you (after the first couple of minutes).
- Robert Scoble
You're a machine :)
- Ryan Erickson
No one mention friendfeed to the 'normals'.
- Ryan Whitwam
Have you studied how much conversation celebrities actually have? They might find FF needing more personal maintenance than they want to.
- Yann Ropars
Don't ask me about shiny new stuff. My web development is in a 50-year-old language and its most exciting features relate to a 10-year-old data format.
- Bruce Lewis
Ryan Whitwam: too late. Google is indexing friendfeed posts higher than Tweets.
- Robert Scoble
for the love of all that is geek, no one RT this to K-utcher or O-prah.
- Alachia
Hopefully, friendfeed will have implemented real-time filters before Oprah comes here, also to filter massive amounts of comments coming in by "likes" and algorithms on the "likes" so selections among 1000s of chatters are filtered in real-time to the front for each user while the rest of the conversations are hidden in a personalized way based on their own likes and friends
- Charbax
Alachia: Kutcher came to a TechCrunch party last year. He's the real deal. Oprah? Um, no.
- Robert Scoble
Why would a real geek play the numbers game then?
- Alachia
Someone should create a Techmeme for celebrities... a tool that search and aggregate social media sphere txt and rich media into one stream...
- Yann Ropars
Thanks..I'm watching the link now...I see Friend Feed has changed since I was here last.
- Hummie
Anyway, I know you weren't totally serious posting this. But I do think you could more fully explore the toys you're already playing with. Spend some time on that Site Integration page. You know which one I mean.
- Bruce Lewis
Look for the next shiny object. We'll be here when you get back. :)
- Louis Gray
Louis: if you haven't found a new shiny object yet, it's safe to stay here for a couple more months. :-)
- Robert Scoble
:) who will be the King ff FF, Ashton? or do we graduate to more distinguished folks? sanjaya perhaps
- Samer Forzley
There is nothing shinier than FF.
- Diego Barros
Okay, see...I cannot figure out where the search is that you are referring to!
- Hummie
At least you can "hide" the celebrities in FF. Ooo look, something shiny over there!
- Brian
+1 Louis :-D
- Bruce Lewis
Hummie: The search bar is at the top of the page. Search for a term you're interested in, and on the resulting page you'll notice a red bar at the top with a link "click here to save". Click the link and you can customize and save that search.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Oh geez...HOW did I miss that search box...if it were a bug, it would have bit me! Thanks...going to test the save a search now. If I can figure this place out, I'll be sure to do a video on how to use it on my blog...cause that's what I do...and people expect me to do!
- Hummie
Okay, someone tell me how I make a post on Friendfeed without having one import from another application (twitter, Flickr, etc).
- Hummie
=) It takes a bit of time to get everything (especially now with so many options). There's a group specifically for cool searches you can save, give me a moment and I'll get you a link. Also, there's a FF for Beginners group that might be helpful. Again, just a moment and I'll have you a link. As for how to post: see the text box underneath the search box? Post there.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I think you could co-exist if you really wanted to but then again I totally understand why you're already thinking about leaving FF.
- John Blanton
from twhirl
I think you could co-exist if you really wanted to but then again I totally understand why you're already thinking about leaving FF. If you left where would you go?
- John Blanton
from twhirl
FF for Beginners group http://friendfeed.com/friendf... FF Saved Searches group http://friendfeed.com/ffss And Hammie, we're usually a pretty friendly bunch. Let us know if you have any questions =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Thanks for your help, Tina. I think the new interface since I was here last is a big improvement. It's easier to figure out than it was before.
- Hummie
No problem, Hummie =) The new interface is intriguing: people who were really active on FF before started out disliking it (but most have grown accustomed to it). People who didn't connect with FF before really seem to like it. Not sure what that says about the differences in the two user types...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I can recommend to open the users reg. to other sites as well ,for example it can be great to let other sites to get for their users an automatic registration here in FF
- Johni Fisher
Johni, FF has pretty much implemented exactly that. People can log in with their Twitter, Facebook, or Google IDs now.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yes thats right but lets say that we have an online newspaper that would like to create users here to his users and to have activity ....in my opinion with this pos we can get here much more than just the tech users
- Johni Fisher
I am enjoying friendfeed rightnow since it is safe from undue publicity.
- ashish
Ashish: that will only last a few more weeks, given the growth rate here.
- Robert Scoble
will this result in more maintanence time = offline time?
- ashish
:-)) u r wrong Robert as long that you control the info that u can get u will keep the fun
- Johni Fisher
I suspect the "early adopters" - "celebrities" timeline is an oversimplification. It's quite possible that a year from now, Twitter will have moved from its "Oprah" stage to a post-Oprah stage, which is more accurately reflected by the timeline "early adopters" - "celebrities" - "everybody else." Think of cell phones as an example. There was a period when celebrities and yuppies...
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- John E. Bredehoft
they are already here, I noticed P Diddy and a Khardasian in my friendfeed followers the other day.
- Christi
John: sorry, Twitter won't get "everyone else." They already are on facebook.
- Robert Scoble
its past my bedtime.. I will have to read about it tomorrow.. g'nite :o)
- David Gross
I've passed two kidney stones, but 37,000 friendfreed subscribers? That sounds really painful.
- Ranger Craig
Plurk. The celebrities will never use Plurk. Of course, there are good reasons for that.
- Ken Wallich
I'll keep an eye on the list of suggested users. As long as you are on top, I think this is still a safe Geekdome...(how many users does FF claim?)
- Antonella Stellacci
NO!!!! AGHH!!!!
- Kim Landwehr
Kim: I passed 37,000 a while ago. The growth here is headed up and I got there a LOT faster than I did on Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
But aren't most of your FF subscribers also Twitter followers? Add that you're the first face new FF see when they join :)
- Antonella Stellacci
Seriously, though not sure celebrities will want to be on Friendfeed, unless there interested in good conversation, its not a megaphone like Twitter is, which is all the a lot of celebrities want.
- Kim Landwehr
Antonella: most of my Twitter followers were readers of my blog, too. So? That's how I separate out the real people from the bots. The bots stick with what I did yesterday. The real people follow me to the new shiny object when I find one.
- Robert Scoble
Kim: celebrities go where the people are. Just wait.
- Robert Scoble
I fear that this friend feed, twitter followers race is becoming too much for the slightly more tech savvy but still average user to keep up with. Someone looking for a place to connect on multiple topics but doesn't have a blog, start -up or celebrity status (of any kind) to warrant any following other than sheer wit to compete with. I work in hi-tech and love love LOVE all things web...
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- Cyndi Brigham
Robert, they go where the most people go. It'll be a LONG time before they show up here.
- Kyle Sellers
Kyle: wrong. The celebrities are already starting to show up here.
- Robert Scoble
Cyndi: do you know of a group like this on Twitter: http://friendfeed.com/persian...
- Robert Scoble
Filter them out.
- John
The celebs won't know what to do on ff
- Dennis Jackson
Agreed, but I guess that the migration from readers of a blog to Twitter users was slower than Twitter-> Friendfeed which might explain the different timeframe. The next shiny is more than welcome...
- Antonella Stellacci
Thanks Robert, based on this, I think that for what I'm looking for, Friend Feed may be more the route than Twitter...The link you sent was amazing. I don't know that I'd find that on Twitter. Appreciate the response!
- Cyndi Brigham
my friend feed has exploded this week, I think it's a much better listening device
- Jessica Wilzig Gottlieb
James: Kim Kardashian: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Robert Scoble
James: Gavin Newsom, who is running for California Governor: http://friendfeed.com/GavinNe...
- Robert Scoble
Jimmy Fallon was rumored to be on here, but I can't find him.
- Robert Scoble
Do you think in a year or so, FriendFeed could take over the space from Twitter, and that Twitter will be sort of the "Myspace" or do you think they will both thrive together, sort of need each other?
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen: I don't see friendfeed taking over from Twitter in next year. I see friendfeed going in a different direction. The money is in search, so friendfeed needs to be a massively better search engine. We're seeing the groundwork for that now, but it'll take a year to make it obvious to everyone.
- Robert Scoble
so abandon ship on Twitter everyone.
- Brad Jackson
re Jimmy Fallon: this one? http://friendfeed.com/jimmyfa... ( couldn't find thru search but just writing the vanity URL with the name)
- Antonella Stellacci
Antonella: heh, I didn't think of just typing in the URL. Yeah, that looks like him. Mostly a clone of his Tweets though.
- Robert Scoble
FriendFeed WAY more useful no? It's not even close....
- j sven
That makes me too late... I didn't like how Friend Feed was before. Now I don't like how Twitter is and I'm falling in luv/lust with FriendFeed. .. but if the celebs invade, and the "like-ables" like you leave... oh whoa... where shall I go?
- Arleen Anderson
Arleen: don't worry, we'll have plenty of time to figure that out. We've already been sending Louis Gray on scouting trips to make sure we have somewhere to go. :-)
- Robert Scoble
08:00 BST you made it! 37,045 subscribers. Congrats :)
- Anita Hunt
More shiny objects Robert? at least stay until this one gets tarnished ;-)
- Rachel Clarke
Rachel: actually, wait until we get skinning here. Then it'll seem brand new for quite a while. I'm not leaving, just having some fun!
- Robert Scoble
Hummie I'm with you on this. When I first came here I very quickly walked away again, I just couldn't figure it out. I had to get help from my son. There's a lesson there for all of us by the way. And it's possible this "Oh Christ now what do I do?" initial impression is keeping the RiffRaff out. Unlike that other service over there ----> which is real easy to understand.
- Gilbert Harding
we're already here, you just haven't noticed us yet!
- randulo
Is there a list of the most subscribed to people on friendfeed? I'm guessing RObert has to be the most subscribed t0, non-friendfeed employee?
- Jim Connolly
Jim: yes, it's at http://www.ffholic.com/Users...
- Robert Scoble
Thanks Robert!
- Jim Connolly
Gah, I DO NOT want that to happen! I finally got rid of twitter (except for using it with friendfeed) and don't want to have to find something else. Maybe I should start my own social network... *ponders that thought for a second* Nah, too much work.
- MλTT
Robert - I knew you would be top of the pile! I'm in 350th place apparently - w00t!!
- Jim Connolly
Matt: (that really did make me laugh out loud!!)
- Jim Connolly
I'm not sure the celebs with come to friendfeed. At least not in the same way they have with twitter. Twitter is a broadcast medium to most celebs. They want to tell the world what they are doing and build their brand. They have no interest in what their followers are doing. FF appears to be more of a community where discussion and sharing can take place. (i know you know this but just wanted to add my 2cents)
- Jamie Vidamour
@Jamie Apparently not everyone got that memo ;-) http://friendfeed.com/iamdiddy & http://friendfeed.com/kimkard...
- Gordon Saunders
I think FriendFeed is 'just' complex enough to scare the crap out of the celebs. Look at the trouble Oprah had with something as easy to use as Twitter! That said, pretty soon most celebs will have social media companies doing this for them.
- Jim Connolly
<The celebrities will be here soon> Yup .
- JimmyJet
"That said, pretty soon most celebs will have social media companies doing this for them" Jim that sounds like a promising business plan.
- Gilbert Harding
My fear exactly. In fact I wonder if following the latest social network trend will itself become the mainstream media's new news trend. I do believe tech and celebs can live in harmony on the same broadcast platform, but it depends greatly on the management of that platform. Twitter management handled this badly. Recommendations should be based on content, not the number of followers...
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- Keith Barrett
Do you have ghosts like Guy Kawasaki ? How you manage to control all of the streams! 90K+ on twitter, 30K+ from FF.. Amazing.. Really.. I jelaous.
- Jacque
Jacque: I do all my own social media work. No ghosts. I just do what I can!
- Robert Scoble
I wonder what the next new shiny object will be, any guesses or predictions?
- Sally Church
"Next new shiny object"...which is?
- Luciano
Luciano: Louis Gray hasn't figured that out yet, so we have at least six months.
- Robert Scoble
I understand having many subscribers but how do you make sense of the flood of all those you subscribe to?
- Steve Levin
Steve Levin: liberal use of the hide feature and many, many lists and groups...I assume.
- Bob Blunk
Steve - I'm pretty sure Robert did a video a while ago - showing what his feed looked like and how he handled it.
- Jim Connolly
we have some shiny tin cans and some wire... so ...
- Pretty Monkey Studio
Steve: I posted about virtual omniscience of Robert Scoble here: http://messel.typepad.com/my_webl... there's a video of Robert describing it there
- Mark Essel
Actually, Pretty Monkey Studio just gave me a great idea: Create my own social network made out of strings and tin cans that spans across the whole world so that everyone can be connected by voice, rather than text... Wait! That may have a few problems *thinks about the repercussions of creating a social network where people put a tin can to their ear while millions of voices are piped (strung?) in to it*
- MλTT
matt: its easy.. you will have a tin can for each person you are connected to. the others get a lid. and for group chats you just need more people that are sitting next to you in the treehouse :)
- Pretty Monkey Studio
Pretty Monkey: Dibs on that idea! I'm developing a prototype and getting a patent tomorrow :P
- MλTT
just come over to our treehouse and we'll hook you up :D we even have pink tin cans !!
- Pretty Monkey Studio
Nooooo!!! It's MY idea, Pretty Monkey! If this kicks off, you aren't getting any of the profits :P
- MλTT
sry we already have the patent ;) but you could try triangle shaped yellow tin cans for your prototype. Banana shapes are taken too
- Pretty Monkey Studio
Not fair :'( Robert, can you make Pretty Monkey Studio hand over the patent?
- MλTT
Matt: sure, but I charge $400 an hour for playing a lawyer and this will take at least 40 hours of my work and you're still not guaranteed that Pretty Monkey Studio will hand it over. Want to proceed? ;-)
- Robert Scoble
I wonder what that point is. When did it start on Twitter?
- Lester Greenberg
Robert: Hmmm, put a decimal point after the 4 and I'm in.
- MλTT
I took several months off from friendfeed to concentrate on my facebook presence. Now that I'm back I can't believe all the changes and growth here. 2008 was the year of facebook, 2009 is the year of twitter, could 2010 be the year of friendfeed?
- Jonathan.Rivera
pfff you guys are only after money. just come over to the treehouse, you'll get a tin can fro free, we can play some blackjack and spin the bottle and have a good time without patents, twithits or the likes and you can explain friendfeed to us :D
- Pretty Monkey Studio
Well, when you're saving to buy your first iPhone, money has a big impact on your actions.
- MλTT
you're a social media creature Scoble :)
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Nooooooooo, say it isn't so....
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
So are companies going to take a stand and disallow celebrities to join services and ruin them or should they change the terms to the we won't reject people based on sex, race, or fame.
- Eric Fisher
Eric: friendfeed doesn't need to do that. They just need to make sure that we remain in control of our viewport and that they minimize the kinds of games humans like to play (collecting followers and gaming systems to see if we can move up a list, etc).
- Robert Scoble
Robert, do you think the next "shiny object" will be a mobile one? Not a device, but a mobile service. Something that works great on all platforms, iPhone, Android, Win, Nokia, etc.
- Mike Lewis
I knew it was always just about the latest shiny object! Now I have proof...
- Andrew Deal
Mike... I hope robert says yes.... that is what I always am pushing @cellecast. ... we got 80% more to develop though, and need community help.
- Andrew Deal
What do you think the effect will be on Friendfeed??
- 77Agency
Mike: if something works great on all mobile platforms it isn't actually great. You've got to optimize for each one, at least in today's world.
- Robert Scoble
Just wait til oprah gets here. :)
- Sami Jones
from Nambu
My guess is that Oprah will be #1 on Twitter in a month or two. She has over a million followers in 28 days without really trying. Aplusk may have more but he also has tweeted more than 40x as much. Look out Scoble, Ashton will probably run here once Oprah takes his Twitter crown.
- Garin Kilpatrick
El momento crucial · ELPAÍS.com - http://www.elpais.com/articul...
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No comentan nada de la pérdida de credibilidad, de la falta de especialización y de la connivencia con poderes y prácticas dudosas con los anunciantes..
- Julio Alonso
90 people get the swine flu and everybody wants to wear a mask. A million people have AIDS and no one wants to wear a condom. - http://laureola.tumblr.com/post...
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RT @BreakingNews Microsoft's decline in the third quarter is the first in its 23-year history as a public company.
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AltLab - DIY Creativity - Lisbon, Portugal - http://www.altlablx.org/
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"altLab is a collective dedicated to independent research and experimentation in alternative media. Starting on May 5th we’ll meet on tuesday nights, from 19h to 24h, at Geraldine (directions here)."
- Marcos Marado
from Bookmarklet
For those hoping for an hacklab in Lisbon, here it is! #barcamppt
- Marcos Marado
Google Street View camera runs into a low bridge: http://news.cnet.com/google-... That's just funny.
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blog post: great times ahead on handivi - http://7syntax.com/blog...
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HAHA! RT @chucknorris_: Chuck Norris' calendar goes straight from March 31st to April 2nd; no one fools Chuck Norris.
Armando Alves liked this
Why Sweden rules the web - Features, Gadgets & Tech - The Independent - http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...
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"Stockholm has emerged as the epicentre of an online revolution, giving us all what we want, instantly, for free. Tim Walker reports from the world's new digital capital"
- Miguel Caetano
Do you realize there are now people who call themselves "professional tweeters." I've lived too long. Please shoot me.
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sounds like speakers to me
- Logan Lindquist
I'm a professional "liker"
- Ben MacNeill
+1 Ben
- jerobins
I've seen folks add it to their CV as professional skills. Along with "Professional Facebook user". It's beginning of the end!
- Ricardo Vidal
Seems risky to add to CV unless specifically related to the job, no? Like "Hire me and I'll spend most of my time surfing the Web."
- Herb Hernandez
wait, wut?
- Shey, Jamaican of FF
and there are people who are called dickheads for decades, the beauty of life is in the mix
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Must be code for "I have no job"
- Eric @ CS Techcast
They used to be MySpace consultants.
- Rob Michael (Atmos Trio)
Just shoot me. Financial crisis is one thing, but this...?
- Todd Brunner
from twhirl
fortunately for them, ramen noodles are cheap. I can't think there'd be a way to make significant money tweeting today (yet!)
- Stephane Kasriel
gross
- Denise Young
yes, we call them twits.
- Sean
I think Leo Laporte would have a major problem with them being called Twits. :D
- MarkCarras
where does one get paid to tweet? I'd like to apply for that job!!!
- Bastard Operator From FF
I don't think it's that strange, but people hiring might, esp if it's not for a marketing job.
- David Lynch
...that's asking for trouble... the 'shoot me' part. .LOLz
- .LAG liked that
Like telemarketers...
- sofarsoShawn
That's hilarious! Reminds me of ppl who put "Java: 5 years of experience" on their CV when Java was only a public language for 3.
- Kevin Elliott
A profession usually nets one some sort of financial compensation. Who's paying these "professional tweeters' for all of their time spent tweeting?
- Jeff P. Henderson
I need some names and output to judge what they're up to. I might be interested in supplementing my income :)
- WorldofHiglet
Whatever happened to all the Professional Friendsters?
- James
@ James, They got real jobs.
- Jeff P. Henderson
I'd like to hear their answer to the interview question, "What is your biggest challenge as a professional tweeter?"
- Carolyn Chan
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse... How do they fit any of the dictionary definition criteria?
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
And I appreciate that "meeting the dictionary definition" is short-sighted, but the point is, how do they do it as a job? How do they make a living out of it? Assuming they mean that they're "experts", then who defines the criteria of "expert tweeter"? Crazyness.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
with the influx of celebrities into twitter, it was only a matter of time before people started taking advantage of the situation. These celebrities are probably more than willing to shell out a few dollars for individuals who can manage their twitter accounts for them. More importantly, I wonder how much longer before the lawsuits start over misuse of someone's name or persona.
- Bob Blunk
@Bob Blunk: Sure, I hadn't thought of people *employing* people to Twitter on their behalf. Strange world we live in.
- Neil Barnwell
from twhirl
@Bob Blunk - Ewan Mcgregor is 'threatening action' over a fake Twitter profile - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news...
- James
I wonder how brands like Zappos and JetBlue keep track of their brands on social networks like Twitter and Facebook? Tools? Techniques?
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Tony LIVES on Twitter To elaborate: Tony uses web + txt - so I'm assuming he monitors Zappos with the web search. He also mandates all his employees to Tweet, so they probably have interns keyword searching. Whole Foods, another prolific Tweeter, uses TweetDeck. JetBlue utilizes: web + TweetDeck + Twitterberry.
- Mona Nomura
They might use tools like we do for our client partners - apps like Radian6, TruCast, CIC, Cymfony. Art meets science across the new frontier of digital brand engagement engineering!...
- Thom Kennon
Hm I would be interested in your client list, Thom. I don't see how consolidated charts and analytical tools can help one actually... well.. engage.
- Mona Nomura
Twitter is the one we spend the MOST time trying to get results in real-time from - and Tweetdeck loaded with search terms and groups helps. Lots of other tools to send results as RSS for much of the rest of the social spaces (Mashable has a good run-down of many: http://mashable.com/2008... ) Though I still don't have a good search for Facebook brand mentions. Any suggestions? - Morgan @JetBlue (and Mona N, - we use Tweetle too)
- Morgan Johnston
Bingo Mona!! Most of those tools (which are GREAT) were designed for agencies. The justSignal Tracker (shameless plug) I've built is a much better solution for engagement. see: http://ustream.tv/sxsw
- Brian Roy
Talking to some of them at the Omniture summit, Thom's right, but for the most part a lot of them are just using things like RSS, TweetDeck, etc. I think Dell has created some internal tools, as have others.
- Jesse Stay
Great question, Robert
- anna sauce
Here is a case study about how Dell used social media monitoring for their mini9 launch - http://bit.ly/zEl0k
- Marcel LeBrun
I use a free (but limited) account from http://www.techrigy.com/
- David Silvernail
Brian: I can't wait for the Ustream/SXSW thing. That's going to make lots of people say "whoa."
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Thanks... I'm really looking forward to it. It should be pretty impressive watching them fly by in the midst of SXSW Interactive.
- Brian Roy
I never used Zappos until I ran into Tony on Twitter. So yes, Twitter can increase sales.
- Dave Gambrill
Dave: I agree. Same here.
- Robert Scoble
It's not Twitter, it's Tony. Zappos' mantra has always been customers first. That's why they are the biggest online shoe retailer. Twitter is supplementary.
- Mona Nomura
Love Zappos!
- ursi
Oh, and at this time, Facebook is close to useless when it comes to brand promotion. Pages (that just got an overhaul) doesn't do anything. Only useful thing is status updates linked with Twitter - which at times can overwhelm (annoy) the average consumer.
- Mona Nomura
I would actually suggest that it isn't JUST business to customer, it is also customer to customer, customer to prospect, etc. Imagine having your customers sell to your prospects because you gave them a clean way to talk to one another. You better be good at what you do... cause if you aren't the opposite will (and does) happen.
- Brian Roy
Zappos is going mainstream fast though. I work a very non-tech job and people there love them. Yes, people who work at Elementary schools love Zappos. :D
- MarkCarras
Uh, I've been using Zappos since 2003ish. They go the extra mile ie: next day air free of charge, hassle free price matching, returns, and exchanges - w/ free shipping and every single one of my experiences have been nothing but excellent. Their marketing is due to word of mouth and major publications advertising for them by raving.
- Mona Nomura
I tweeted about drinking a Cameron Hughes wine last night and got a quick reply from the winery. Obviously there are tools to monitor tweets and flag keywords.
- Robert Fisher
Robert: most startups I visit now have at least one computer running TweetDeck.
- Robert Scoble
TweetDeck rules. But I think it has to do with finding your groove, per se. Then it becomes routine. Right now, I don't know of any tools in the market that efficiently enables monitoring offline.
- Mona Nomura
oh and as far as Zappos and responsiveness? - the one story from 2007 http://www.zazlamarr.com/blog... was enough for me. I look for chances to buy from them.
- Morgan Johnston
Mona - tell me more about "efficiently"... What is missing?
- Brian Roy
Quick and timely alerts via multiple methods. ie: IM + SMS + web and or app - with the option to enable and disable.
- Mona Nomura
So you want monitoring + semantic analysis + alerts on "stuff I need to know now" and user by user configuration. Did I get that right?
- Brian Roy
Engagement tools. User configuration + monitoring and options to monitor are first priority. Semantic analysis are close to irrelevant when it comes to people actually walking the walk. They're just tangibles to satisfy whoever you're reporting to when it comes to Twitter, imho.
- Mona Nomura
So what is justSignal missing? You see everything, you can tweet/reply, it does IM (but the tracker doesn't today), the Tracker has a Web based iPhone app. - And thanks for your insight on this... I'm not trying to defend what I've done... but learn what is needed next.
- Brian Roy
I totally agree with Mona. My computer chirping at me through Tweetdeck is great - but there aren't any mobile apps with as instantaneous a notification. I'm left with constantly manually pulling up search.twitter.com pages when I have a spare moment.
- Morgan Johnston
Alerts - the ability to know and respond right away when on the go. And these are just my opinions - glad they're useful.
- Mona Nomura
So if you have an iPhone app that updates in real time does that solve the problem? SMS isn't viable - there is no way anyone is going to pay what it costs to have EVERY tweet that mentions the brand sent to (potentially) dozens of phones. Try the ustream.tv iPhone one: http://justsignal.com/ustvsxsw
- Brian Roy
The problem with iPhones is there is no push + background. Which means the web interface has to be up at all times. SMS alerts are great - granted, your phone would be going off every two seconds, but it's a good option to have when services or new features are close to roll-out or just rolled out. Perhaps an email notification with consolidated Tweets in increments of 15 minutes? IM notifications? The possibilities are endless. It's all about options.
- Mona Nomura
Mona - completely agree. Thanks for the input. If you have any other thoughts let me know.
- Brian Roy
My pleasure Brian, anytime. :) Sorry Robert for hijacking your thread! But when Brian's justSignal blows up, you can say: "Hey, it all started on my FriendFeed!" ;)
- Mona Nomura
probably radian 6 or similar tool
- Adam Singer
there are plenty of alert services - though most will at best send you a digest of results every hour. - I agree yet again. It's about the flexibility; sometimes a digest of results once a day is fine, other times if I don't see a mention come in within a minute or two, I've lost that chance to help a customer.
- Morgan Johnston
Mona: conversation offshoots are why I love friendfeed. I learned something and I appreciate it.
- Robert Scoble
Mona - I'm hoping that "blow up" is in a good way - Don't want to be Cuil :)
- Brian Roy
The tools - in our hands anyway - reveal the insights that drive the engagement strategies.
- Thom Kennon
Brian - I am rooting for you! Thom - like I said, I would be interested in seeing your client list that practices said "engagement strategies". Oh, and FYI your Facebook profile links to a Montclair high-school female, class of '11. :(
- Mona Nomura
Mona, that's my daughter, Tori's FB profile. And would love to share with you our Listening Platform (Forrester stole our handle for heir recent Wave Report!...)
- Thom Kennon
Thom - why is your daughter's profile linked to your FriendFeed?! :O Did you know FriendFeed is indexed by Google? And how come you don't have your own Facebook? :(
- Mona Nomura
Mona - the kids (I've got 5) use my laptop, esp on w/e's. I must've linked FF to FB while she was still logged into her FB. Btw you can find me on FB at Thom Kennon.
- Thom Kennon
Dell uses Radian 6.
- Dominic Jones
I apologize for singling you out but this is something charts, graphs, and analytical data could never teach you. Regardless of the explanation, as a Social Media expert linking an incorrect profile to your own social profile reflects... well... poorly.
- Mona Nomura
Mona -
- Thom Kennon
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- Mona Nomura
Mona - yes, social media experts with 5 kids should be forewarned to log all those darn kids off when he reclaims his laptop on weekends. Your vigilant watch keeps the social space safe!
- Thom Kennon
You need lessons from Robert and Louis - they blog, Tweet AND FriendFeed while changing diapers and playing with the kids. Robert even records videos unrelated to Patrick and Milan!
- Mona Nomura
Mona: we can all make mistakes. I don't let other people touch my laptop now. Including my kids. They have their own laptops. I don't touch theirs. They don't touch mine. Now that netbooks are $400 and decent that's how things should roll.
- Robert Scoble
Back to thread topic --- Radian6 just updated to new rev today. Some very cool enhancements. We've been deep into VT's TruCast for some time as well. Quite robust, esp. ecosystem mapping. And Cymfony's Maestro is their newest enhanced app/platform. Love their data set! Our colleagues in APAC use CIC, eager to put that thru paces soon.
- Thom Kennon
Of course we make mistakes, we're all human. But if I were a potential client, I wouldn't even think of contacting them. - just saying. :)
- Mona Nomura
Someone give Mona another Rockstar Energy Drink :-p
- Hutch Carpenter
I'm thinking of trying out ScoutLabs' 30-Day Free Trial SM brand-conversation tracking tool, though I agree with Mona (of course ;) that it takes more diligence than simply using a Radian6-like service: http://www.scoutlabs.com/
- Marko Bon
Loving this conversation as this is something I've been looking at recently. Right now I'm using twitter search brought in as an RSS feed for the company's name but wondering if there is a better way as I'd like to be able to search for products too without creating 11ty billion search queries. It works but I know there are much better tools that I should be using
- Tamara
Yes, Marko, we're in middle of a trial of ScoutLabs as well. Doesn't feel as robust and tool-rich as the rest, but that's first blush, we'll continue to bang on it and report back.
- Thom Kennon
CoTweet's designed specifically for brands http://cotweet.com. It provides a layer of control and coordination that makes communicating through Twitter much more effective and efficient for companies. It allows multiple people to communicate through the same Twitter account, combining tools for outbound marketing and PR as well as response-oriented customer service. You can share the responsibility of being "on duty" for the account and assign followups to other team members.
- jesse
They are using listening platforms like TNS cymfony, Buzzmetrics and Radian6. I've got details.
- Jeremiah Owyang
Too long of a topic for here, but this will all evolve into "just another Contact Center Channel" for big companies. It will be just like phone, chat, email, etc. When that happens it won't be a game changer - it will be the same companies providing the same (barely acceptable) level of service/engagement. I've seen this too many times since 1992 - and this is no different. It is also why I'm not trying to solve that (I could, but don't want to) with justSignal. I know where it goes...
- Brian Roy
BTW - Whoever does "solve" the contact center channel for Social Media will make serious $$$ - probably far more than by catering to PR/Marketing. So here is my free advice - study what Kana did with email and Genesys does with multi-channel - plug SM into something like that and sell to 500+ seat contact centers.
- Brian Roy
Piping RSS feeds from search.twitter.com would certainly help. Put a number of these in a GReader folder and turn on an RSS feed for that folder so that others can see too.
- Mike Reynolds
I track Twitter keywords from search.twitter.com via a FriendFeed Room. You can track the flow, and they become searchable as well.
- Hutch Carpenter
Great dialogue. I'm curious how Mona and Robert feel about the need for quick response versus monitoring when it comes to large scale national brands? Take something like Kleenex where brand is used as a noun, do they need to respond to every mention in SM? Isn't there value to them listening and understanding how their brand is used?
- JMaultasch
That is where common sense needs to be exercised in order to pick and choose the signal vs noise and respond when appropriate. What a lot of marketers are missing is the purpose of SM sites -- specifically, Twitter.
- Mona Nomura
Have to say when I interviewd the guys at http://cotweet.com I really was impressed with their offering, and how they understood why it's not just some shit you drop into a call-center. See http://thenextweb.com/2009...
- David Petherick
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Oops, totally forgot to mention cotweet. Sorry @jesse. We just started testing it out on our team and have been really happy with it so far.
- Tamara
Great discussion everyone. What I would like to hear is: Twitter and other social media platforms are great with consumer goods and already-established-brands. But what about the huge industries of companies making capital goods???? Their customers have probably never hear of social media. What do they do? just ignore it? Is Social Media only our world , while tons of companies have no business being here?
- Peter Efland
Again, what a lot of marketers are missing is the purpose of SM sites -- specifically, Twitter. Identify, acknowledge, and understand the why to recognize the how.
- Mona Nomura
Peter: I'm not sure your assumption holds... for example - here is a twitter search for Kenmore (lame, appliances sold a Sears): http://search.twitter.com/search... - SM is just visible word of mouth. People talk about all kinds of things. Granted that the demographics are still a bit skewed... but that is changing quickly.
- Brian Roy
@CoTweet will be a great app for monitoring business accounts in twitter while maintaining a human aspect behind the account - better than just a broadcast mechanism.
- Courtney Engle
to Mona's point directly above, Brian Morrisey of AdWeek said something at Social Media Week here in NYC that I jotted down: "People use Social Media not to connect with *brands,* but to connect with *each other.*" That's the WHY we're on Twitter -- and for Brands that will require a little re-alignment for how they decide to operate in this space.
- Marko Bon
tracking the live chatter - Tweetdeck, google alerts, friendfeed room, all helpful.
- Courtney Engle
to Marko's point Is it necessary to distinguish brand from community? Tony @zappos represents his brand sure - but he's solidly an individual on Twitter as well. Frank @comcastcares is clearly his own person even as he works to help Comcast's customers, and my own work @JetBlue - while I work hard to keep our public feed strictly on the topics I believe our customers want to see, it doesn't make my interaction any less authentic and human. The advantage of SM is that companies no longer need to be faceless
- Morgan Johnston
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twitter needs friendfeed's "likes" to kill RT's. ReTweets are, basicly, signs of that need.
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Yep. I agree with you. I somehow think that FriendFeed's best times are still to come. People are getting fed up by Twitter.
- Miguel Caetano
It's not about being fed up with Twitter. It's about filtering the noise. The same thing could end up on Friendfeed, once it gets mainstream, with users "spam-feeding" comments and newstream. In the end, it all comes to respect and trust.
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I disagree. I think FriendFeed is more versatile and flexible. You can create several folders for your items, as well as thematic rooms for specific purposes. Whereas on Twitter you don't have any of those features. It's too tight and you don't know where are you going to end up when you click on a link.
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Yes, it's amazing. ;)
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Much ado about nothing? http://news.cnet.com/8301-13...
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Now with fresh search results indexed goodness! http://www.google.com/search...
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Well, crawling is allowed, but the old URLs 404 anyway :P
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I was thinking more of the one that got indexed 2 hours ago, the old ones are URL only, and show the affect of being blocked before which is why I took the filter off (I know that you know that) :)
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como é que sabes que ela é casada? vais lá tb "comprar" pão?
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Porra, como é que se pede um bico (pão!) em Lisboa?
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em Portugal costumamos dizer carcaças.
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Em Portugal? Pensas que eu peço bicos onde, em Espanha?
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A Paula pergunta com que outras palavras é que precisa de ter cuidado... O lado positivo é que também diz que a partir de agora é ela que faz as compras O:-)
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"tira-me um fino" pode ser mau tb
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No problems there: a Paula não bebe cerveja, e eu peço "Super Bock de garrafa" :-)
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