In 2005 we abandoned a monopolistic capillary electrophoresis; instead we have a couple and now 21 different technologies for sequencing. Resulted in a jump in rate of change of sequencing capacity
- Barb Bryant
He thinks that many of the sequencing companies will find a niche :)
- arne
Cost of personal genome: 2007: $57M; 2009 $1500, for 40-fold coverage.
- Barb Bryant
Sidetrack: One friend said when he started his PhD it took 6 month to sequence a bacteria and 6-60 month to analyse it. Not it takes 6 minuted to sequence it and still 6-60 month to analyze it.
- arne
limitation is several hundreds nm in scale on chip (positive charge molecules on hydrophobic background
- Dawei lin
7% human genome is missing so far because of technical challenges
- Dawei lin
trio genomics information (father, mother, child) is increasing important in genomics research
- Dawei lin
For $400M, Dupont made 27 changes to the 4.6 Mbp E. coli, to make a chemical.
- Barb Bryant
Another application: bio-petroleum from microbes.
- Barb Bryant
Identify enzymes that synthesize alkane. Many cyanobacteria made trace amounts; others made none. Did genome sequence "subtraction" to find which genes were in the former. Isolated & tested these genes. Overproduced them; it worked. Green chemistry.
- Barb Bryant
So: subtract my genome from Church's, then overproduce those genes --> TOTAL BRILLIANCE!
- Barb Bryant
Example of freeing up a codon by changing those codons to a different one./
- Barb Bryant
Is this not just the analysis. Not the sequence ? (or did I miss a link)
- arne
See the 'Datasets' header -> you can get 500k Affy data as well as exome
- Christiaan Klijn
Metabolic engineering example. Historically, you'd get obsessed with one step in the pathway and overproduce one enzyme. But then you'd get product inhibition, or the product might be toxic.
- Barb Bryant
Would be nice with a map to the reference genome as well, but guess that can be done
- arne
DNA Nanostructures: (DNA origami). Proposes a combination of DNA and proteins.
- arne
DNA nanostructures help solve structures of membrane proteins.
- Barb Bryant
First practical application: Made a long rod that was stiffer than other DNA. Used in NMR for membrane proteins (Cooooll idea but, it has been tried with proteins before)
- arne
caDNAno is a software tool that is free available
- Dawei lin
mentioned this before but might have been lost: if ISCB has to do something to support this crucial activity: let us know!
- Burkhard Rost
OK, then let's meet for lunch tomorrow. Please spread the word. It'll be easiest if we meet at 12:50 at the hallway leading to the ballrooms on the 3rd floor. Burkhard: Thanks for the support, we'll get back to you.
- Roland Krause
@Burkhard: most people that sat next to me had no idea about this room or about FF, despite the prominent slide and the links from the ISMB webpage. Perhaps if you show a screenshot before a keynote, awareness will increase?
- Mickey Kosloff
Afraid the horrible wireless connection made (live) blogging nearly impossible for many sessions. Was going to cover the late breaking research session today from 201, but no luck.
- Oliver Hofmann
Must have missed you. Got there a couple of minutes late and didn't see anyone.
- Mickey Kosloff
from iPod
Hmm, let's try to meet at the reception. It'll be a search in 2D space so we should find each other in finite time. I will be in room 302 for the remainder of the afternoon.
- Roland Krause
What about another projector projecting the feed, in talks by some daring presenters?
- Barb Bryant
I won't be able to make the reception. My 3 ideas are: separate (secure) wireless for bloggers. Incentives (e.g. Priority for plos-cb postcard publications). Wider campaign to recruit micro bloggers before ismb.
- Mickey Kosloff
from iPod
1. projection of the feed: don't get the reason. 2. wireless 4 blog: good idea, 3. plos-cb postcard slot: will talk to phil/plos, 4. other incentives: what you want?
- Burkhard Rost
Reason for wireless4blog is most likely due to low speed here
- arne
It's not a bandwidth problem, I had throughputs on the MB/s. More likely, many of our computers have problems in this mixed settings with "smart" handling of receiver power etc. In Vienna, I had a clever tech guy that helped to disentangle these issues with my network card. What we (all) would really need is some sort of true hacker with proper equipment but I have no good idea how to recruit such a person.
- Roland Krause
Can bottleneck be between local server and ISP ?
- Mickey Kosloff
from iPod
motivation is to understand genetic basis of human diseases
- Dawei lin
Genetic basis of human diseases - important disease mechanisms and bio pathways remain unidentified
- Venkata P. Satagopam
gap in knowledge of human disease biology contribute to high failure rates in drug development
- Dawei lin
Why understanding genetic mechanisms ? (1) Important mechanism remain unidentified (ii) Gaps in knowledge causes failure rate in drug development
- arne
It will be a long way to know if the two motivating hypotheses are true
- Dawei lin
one of the most research on T2D. It scaned 100k people for 10 yrs
- Dawei lin
10 years later 50% progressed to have the disease
- Dawei lin
10years of diabetic research - the out come is - 50% of people with good lifestyle improved
- Venkata P. Satagopam
lifestyle has a bigger impact than Metformin
- Dawei lin
Diabetes study with 10-year follow-up of diabetes incidence and weight loss, "T2D". Randomized into treatments: lifestyle, metformin, placebo. Best drug makes relatively little difference in incidence; lifestyle intervention is better than drug but still doesn't help a whole lot.
- Barb Bryant
best prevention was extensive lifestyle changes (50% -> 40% incidence)
- Mickey Kosloff
Diabetes is not only a matter of life style
- arne
success rate in current pharma industry is <5% of molecules entering the clinical trails
- Venkata P. Satagopam
key attributes of genetic mapping: (1) unbiased by prior assumptions about pathways (2) saturation mutagenesis reveal pathways
- Dawei lin
many mutants -> reveals coherence of pathways
- Ted Laderas
These days we have other methods that are unbiased like expression profiling, but genetic mapping has some unique characteristics relative to these (he’ll explain in a minute).
- Barb Bryant
Drosophola's mutations looked initially random, years they almost all related to pathways.
- Dawei lin
bottleneck is functional determination - biochemical approaches
- Ted Laderas
A lot of current knowledge can track back to genetic mapping
- Dawei lin
A slide based on Galzier et al, Science 2002
- Dawei lin
genetic mapping of human single gene disorders ...over 15 years Botstein paper in 1980, first genetic map in 1985 ....
- Venkata P. Satagopam
It took 10 year to find maker for Huntington disease
- Dawei lin
Once you find a linked region from genetic mapping, it still takes a long time to find the specific gene responsible.
- Barb Bryant
in the 1990's the idea was that common diseases were caused by rare mutations with large effects
- arne
"Chromosome shlepping" - Eic Lander's term for the identification of a very gene in some genomic region.
- Roland Krause
It is robust to find mendelian disease but to not common diseases
- Dawei lin
another approach: population genetics - QTL approach
- Ted Laderas
phenotypic variation is often continuous and may involve variation in many genes
- Dawei lin
Galton invented regression analysis to analyze the measuring of phenotypic data (heights of parents and offspring).
- Roland Krause
The biometric unit --- almost nothing was Mendelian
- arne
Most traits are continuously variable
- Ted Laderas
Francis Galton was a cousin of Darwin. Darwin didn’t explain the source of variation. Galton focused on this; he measured the heights of parents and their offspring, and found a relationship. He invented regression analysis to draw the line. The slope of the line is related to the inheritability of the disease.
- Barb Bryant
It was studied by the cousin of Darwin, Francis Galton (1885)
- Dawei lin
phenotypic variation is often continuous ... some history ... Francis Galton (1885), Ronald Fisher (1918), Hermann Muller (1920)
- Venkata P. Satagopam
This gave rise to the biometric movement – measure every living thing. Traits were related to genetic relatedness; and it wasn’t Mendelian. This led to the biometric-Mendelian debate.
- Barb Bryant
Ronald Fisher, was actually a geneticist, who also invented p-value and Fisher exact test
- Dawei lin
Ronald Fisher (the one with the exact test) was also a geneticist.
- Roland Krause
Solved by assuming that phenotype often is an effect of several Mendelian genes.
- arne
Fisher: individual genes are mendelian, effects of genes additive
- Ted Laderas
Hermann Muller 1920 (Nobel Prize for X-ray induced mutations). PhD thesis not Mendelian trait, but truncate wing. Wasn’t Mendelian. Did genetic mapping.
- Barb Bryant
Hermann Muller decided to use broken wing of fruit fly to study non-Mendelian diseases
- Dawei lin
Muller 1920 paper: 4 chromosomes in fly – 3 contain genes that influence the trait truncate wing. Muller wrote about implications for human traits, like psychological traits. Said that traits were going to be too complicated. Said you could figure out by looking at population, but not looking at Mendelian inheritance in families.
- Barb Bryant
Muller 1920 suggested that it needed to do study on a population.
- Dawei lin
mendelian fallacy - sub-populations are easily divisible in terms of risk
- Ted Laderas
Prediction will only be useful if there is an intervention that you would not use without the prediction. Otherwise, you should use the intervention anyway.
- Roland Krause
Huntington will not be a representative example - for most diseases/people identified risk will be <<100% even with full genetic information
- Mickey Kosloff
Cautionary tale - PSA prediction results in over-treatment, hasn't been shown that people live longer because of test
- Mickey Kosloff
Very cautious about PSA - no improvements on the mortality but many operations performed.
- Roland Krause
genetics offers a path to discover the underlying biology of human diseases ; the great value will drive from pathophysiology and treatment
- Venkata P. Satagopam
When grouping mutations into pathways up to 85% of GBM have a muation in the most important pathways, while individual genes are down to a few %
- arne
Each oncogene may have relatively low frequency across patients; but when you group genes across pathways, a pathway may explain a large fraction of patients with a given type of cancer.
- Barb Bryant
can see a change in pathway activation between primary tumor and mets
- Mickey Kosloff
Dominant alterations changes between cancer types and states.
- Roland Krause
GBM: copy number is rare (and noisier) Ovarian: more regular and higher
- arne
profiles of copy numbre variations differ between types of cancers
- Mickey Kosloff
Metastatic tumor samples have more copy number changes than primary tumors. Not surprising. But maybe primary samples with more copy number changes than others are more likely to metastasize? Generally, better outcome with fewer somatic copy number changes.
- Barb Bryant
BRCA1 and BRCA2 mutations convey germline inherited cancer risk
- Barb Bryant
These genes act in the homologous repair pathway. Half of all patients have mutations in some homologous repair pathway gene.
- Barb Bryant
and more generally, homologous repair genes are altered in > 50% of ovarian cancer
- Mickey Kosloff
Tumor suppressor genes can be inactivated in various ways: germline mutation, somatic mutation, epigenetic silencing, etc.
- Barb Bryant
There are drugs under development that might work particularly well in patients with defects in this particular pathway.
- Barb Bryant
Cancer genomics portal: www.cbio.mskcc.org/cancergenomics
- Barb Bryant
Instead of going through all the models that are possible, you derive statistical properties across a set of good models for each of the Wij weights in the model.
- Barb Bryant
This is sort of like partition functions in statistical physics
- Barb Bryant
after step 1 - generation of probability distributions then step 2- decimation
- Shannon McWeeney
So you have a probability distribution for each Wij, which represents the interaction between element i and element j. I'm not really getting how you "update" these probability distributions in the iterative steps. I do understand that at the end you take the most "certain" (narrowest) distribution and fix its value (some Wij) at the most probable value, then update all the other Wij's given this fixation. And so on. To get your final model in a sort of greedy fashion.
- Barb Bryant
And by the way, the underlying model is a simple differential equation sort of thing: change of one variable xi is a sigmoidal function of weighted (Wij) sum of all variables xj, less a decay term.
- Barb Bryant
Question: Interacting network tend to be modular, with strongly-interacting subnetworks that interact weakly with each other. ...
- Barb Bryant
Chris: Is the modular approach really useful in confronting the data? [Is that what he said?]
- Barb Bryant
Question: can you get at causal relationships?
- Barb Bryant
Chris: yes - if the network model allows you to predict correctly the result of a particular perturbation applied to a particular node, then you can simulate using that model.
- Barb Bryant
Question: with a big network, how many experiments will you need to model?
- Barb Bryant
Chris: Good question. Could use an entropy measure. Help us figure this out. Help us design the experiments. It's important because of the costs of experiment. This is going to be broadly applicable in cell biology.
- Barb Bryant
bb - he said one should see if approach is useful by confronting with real data
- Shannon McWeeney
from BuddyFeed
Chris gets at the difference between a model that tells a story and a model that is truly predictive.
- Barb Bryant
Question: yes, but, what are the semantics of the graph? What kinds of interaction? Answer: The semantics are in the mathematics of your model.
- Barb Bryant
Question: mean field approach is interesting. Compared to Monte Carlo approach, you are assuming some decoupling. Loss of posterior coupling between weights - is that an issue?
- Barb Bryant
Chris: If you look at a coupled system overall, the extent to which the algorithms work depends on correlations within the system. Long-range (in terms of network distance) correlations are problematic. There are some clever approaches to handle some of this. Mentions non-ergotic space; deal with parts of space separately or iteratively.
- Barb Bryant
Protein Folding Requires Crowd Control in a Simulated Cell Benjamin R. Jefferys⁎, Lawrence A. Kelley and Michael J. E. Sternberg J. Mol. Biol. (2010) 397, 1329–1338
- arne
HL23: Menachem Fromer - A probabilistic approach to the design of interfaces in proteins with multiple partners: Tradeoff between stability and promiscuity
LAST, like BLAST but faster. Handles repetetive regions and A+T bias much better than blast Blast etc used fixed seed length (Last uses a adaptive length)
- arne
Not just interesting, but most likely great. Svante is a fantastic speaker
- arne
If you’re interested in human history, the genome is a great source of information. To reconstruct history, we compare sequences of people (and other species) living today. We use models of how DNA changes over time to understand the differences that exist today. This is an indirect way to study history, because we are reconstructing from the present what we think has happened in the past.
- Barb Bryant
Human FoxP2 in mouse: The mouse can not speak ! Large scale phenotype study (323 phenotypic traits). -> More cautious in a novel area (stays close to the wall). No difference after 3 minutes. Second phenotype: Altered vocalization !!!
- arne
Protein folding - environment is very important ... showed videos
- Venkata P. Satagopam
experiments in heat shock tolerance -initial small shock allowed for survival -hsp proteins are made in massive amounts - role in protein folding
- Ted Laderas
hsp70 helps early stage folding and works with a number of proteins, but not hsp90.
- Dawei lin
HSP 90 a special chaperone ... because very abundant, it induced by two folds, it has extra folding capability .... acts as a buffer
- Venkata P. Satagopam
Signal transduction networks & HSP90 ... Hanahan and Weinberg, cell 2000
- Venkata P. Satagopam
showed signal transduction network involved by hsp90. It seems pretty spread.
- Dawei lin
hsp90's function is found by an accident.
- Dawei lin