A place for all things DUNE. Feel free to geek-out, argue, discuss all things related to the Known Universe. Even Tleilaxu are welcome. The Spice must flow!
"The desert planets Arrakis in Frank Herbert’s 1965 novel Dune, and the planet Tatooine in the Star Wars trilogy are legendary arid worlds covered in sand dune "seas." And a mere one billion miles away orbiting Saturn the planet-sized moon Titan has all the trimmings of the real deal. However, with surface temperatures of minus 300 degrees Fahrenheit it's hard to imagine Titan as a sun-parched desert world. Radar imaging from the NASA/ESA Cassini mission reveals that there is nothing in the solar system quite like Titan's immense dune fields."
- Shevonne
from Bookmarklet
there were at least two...perhaps three versions. Lynch didn't get to do the final cut, so you can't blame him. they weren't even able to finish all the effects before the studio snatched it away for release.
- Hieronymous Boosh
"Researchers at the University of Nottingham have found a way to switch on tumor suppressor genes—and turn off cancer growth—using an extract from eggs of the axolotl salamander."
- Josh Haley
from Bookmarklet
"Dino De Laurentiis, legendary producer of such cult films as Flash Gordon and Dune, has died in Los Angeles aged 91, his family has said."
- Shevonne
from Bookmarklet
disambiguate *grin* hmm, thinking... that was minutes ago already *rereads* oh, aside from little Alicia Witt as Alia in the film (spooky spooky was she), I liked the SciFi miniseries much more.
- Michael W. May
Fair enough. There were certain things about that version I liked, and I even bought the DVDs, but I much prefer Lynch's film.
- Josh Haley
In this case I have to agree with Michael. The Lynch film version to me is all but unwatchable -- a combination of wooden acting by Kyle and overacting by everyone else. Sting is especially atrocious in his role.
- Friar Ticket to Ride
Yes, There are acting moments that are atrocious in both versions. As far as the look and feel, though, the Lynch version is imprinted on me. That's just how it is and how things and people look when I read the books now.
- Josh Haley
I'm curious, Josh, which did you first see or read?
- Michael W. May
i prefer the Lynch version as well. minus the Toto music and plus the deleted scenes. :P
- Hieronymous Boosh
I saw the film in the theater when I was 13. I didn't read the book until I was an adult. I am not much of a reader at all.
- Josh Haley
I still maintain the theatrical release of the Lynch version of "Dune" on the list of top ten worst big budget movies of all time. Regardless, I would still endorse Grace Park as Chani.
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
disagree. top 50, perhaps, but not top 10. the director's cut is certainly far better.
- Hieronymous Boosh
I still can't seem to find the director's cut anywhere. And "better" is relative. There is no forgiving that whole "weirding module" bastardization that Lynch came up with.
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
I don't buy Grace Park as Chani. Sting did suck in the OG movie, but hey, so did a lot of people. It's just too close to impossible to cram the complexity of the story and the characters into a 2 hour movie that the average movie watcher wouldn't understand or enjoy.
- Morgan
The quality on this disc is simply stunning. And I found something funny I didn't notice before. When the 3rd stage Guild navigator is being brought in to see the Emperor, one of the guildsman to the right of the tank totally falls down and they just keep going like nothing happened. I LOLed.
- Josh Haley
from iPhone
"If you're fascinated by Frank Herbert's Dune novels, you'll definitely want to read Scott Timberg's latest article in the Los Angeles Times, chronicling the book's origins and legacy. Plus there's great commentary from Kim Stanley Robinson and Jonathan Lethem."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
""I first heard about 'Dune' through Bob Venosa, an American painter of fantastic realism who lived in Cadaqués with his family and was a frequent visitor at Salvador Dali's house. It was a project for a three hour 70 mm science fiction film, in which Dali was to play a leading role for a fee of $100,000 an hour (he was later invited to leave the film because of his pro-Franco statements). Bob Venosa telephoned me to say that the director Alejandro Jodorowsky, to whom Dali had shown my catalogue, was interested in my work. So I went to Spain, but unfortunately Jodorowsky had already left."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
14 hours of Giger-inspired sandworms and other strange conceits? I need to find the universe where this movie got made.
- Steven Perez
"Roiling sandstorms in China's Xinjiang province have enveloped the far western Hotan prefecture in a thick orange miasma straight out of Frank Herbert's Dune. Let's hope the Shai-Hulud decided to stay fictional."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
OMG SHAI-HALUD IS IN THE GOBI DESERT. GENGHIS KHAN MUST HAVE BEEN A SANDRIDER.
- Steven Perez
"David Lynch's 1984 adaptation of Dune, with its grotesque baron, lithe Sting and pre-Blue Velvet Kyle McLachlan, sharply divided the audience for what's often considered SF's bestselling novel. It succeeded neither critically nor commercially — even the easy-going Roger Ebert dissed it, calling it "a real mess... incomprehensible, ugly, unstructured, pointless." Audiences generally agreed, and many of the novel's fans thought the baroque film took too many liberties. To the author himself, though, the film succeeds at many levels, in some ways better than his novel. "As far as I'm concerned, the film is a visual feast," he says in the interview, going on to explain that he wants to frame some of the film's stills so he can have them around him. Herbert was heavily involved with the Lynch film, and even admits at one point that his own screenplay for Dune was horrible."
- Jennifer Dittrich
from Bookmarklet
"A 1983 promotional interview with Frank Herbert and David Lynch, freshly posted on YouTube, features Dune author Herbert explaining in unambiguous terms his fondness for the Lynch Dune film that polarized his readers."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
As I've always liked the David Lynch film, I'm glad Herbert liked it too! :)
- Laura H.
"When Pierre Morel was announced as director for the new version of Dune, Brendon wondered, “is it reasonable to assume we’re on for a rather ballistic version of the story?” Yesterday the director spoke about his love of the book, and it seemed like he was trying to be right on the same page as ol’ Frank Herbert. Now more of his ideas are being reported, and he’s definitely going for something with a little more zip. Or, as he says with respect to David Lynch’s 1984 adaptation, “faster and more modern.”"
- Shevonne
from Bookmarklet
"The greatest and most valuable beast of planet Arrakis has been conquered. This is just one image from an amazing collection on "Project Sand," a group blog devoted entirely to recreating the world of Frank Herbert's Dune in concept designs."
- Rob H.
from Bookmarklet
"DUNE is ostensibly a science fiction novel. But like most good genre fiction, the trappings of its genre are little more than a container large enough to hold the story. Dune is not about spaceships or lasers, though both of those make brief appearances from time to time. Dune is not about aliens, though there are some of those too, later on."
- Shevonne
from Bookmarklet
Is that a gom jabbar or are you just happy to see me?
- Josh Haley
I'm watching the extended edition of the David Lynch film. I just spied that Gurney's Baliset is actually a dressed up Chapman Stick. And Patrick Stewart appears to have no idea how to play it.