Sorry you feel you have to make a buck and reck such a cool site as FriendFeed.
- Frank Sant'Agata
I only ask you to stop spamming, I never lowered myself by calling you names.
- Frank Sant'Agata
you are harassing me...for nothing! and that IS LOWERING YOURSELF !
- Aline Ohannessian
I'm sorry you have decided to take it that way. Have a wonderful day!
- Frank Sant'Agata
@Frank: Although the topic of the post isn't personally of interest to me, I have a hard time seeing how it's spamming. It's appropriate for every group it's been submitted to IMO.
- LANjackal
@Frank: you are obviously uneducated in the field of internet marketing, not to be able to recognize the difference between an affiliate and straight forward recommendation/Sharing information. You should do YOUr research before making comments that are accusatory in nature!
- Aline Ohannessian
Internet marketing is a big negitive for the FriendFeed user. We want unaffiliate infomation. Frank must of hit a nerve with you and uncovered some truth here.
- Joe Gata
@Joe Gata: yes i may have reacted emotionally, caught off guard in the moment, as i do take spamming seriously, therefore to me this was an Unjust continued accusation on my lazy sunday afternoon - thanks for your input.
- Aline Ohannessian
I looked into your feeds and it is obvious you are doing advertising. I'm sure you do take spamming seriously thats how you make money, per click right? I like how you even tried to market yourself as a victim in your comment
- Joe Gata
okay my LOVElies, it is very obvious that some of us are clearly more informed regarding links, internet use, social media, the purpose of such than others.....
- Roni Lipstein
The purpose of social media is to SHARE information.......
- Roni Lipstein
SPAM is sending people to junk sites, it is leading them astray.......
- Roni Lipstein
EVEN IF someone were to advertise as opposed to merely RECOMMENDING or SHARING information, {if one DID have an affiliate link- we can get into what that means as some clearly do not know}, which CLEARLY is NOT the case here with ArtWave, so long as that which they were "advertising" was upfront- no-one is "misdirecting" YOU, if they show you a pic of a new item and take u to the item's...
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- Roni Lipstein
furthermore, BEfore any comment on another taking specific action in any public forum, it is allways highly recommended to DO your research FIRST.
- Roni Lipstein
@Kelly W - Kelly, I think you may have read incorrectly.....ArtWave is NOT SELLING ANYTHING.............someone who is unaware of and uneducated regarding links made a FALSE ACCUSATION......ArtWave happens to BE amongst the foremost individuals whom offers FREE TIPS to GREAT Products, Information and Resources for ALL of WE at ABSOLUTELY NO PROFIT to herSELF........she's just AMAZING like that......you may want to investigate her feeds YOUr SELF to see what I am speaking to.
- Roni Lipstein
Got it-sorry about the misunderstanding. I was responding from my iphone and not able to read further. Comment deleted. :)
- Kelly W.
Well, REAL FriendFeed users such as Mitch Wagner wouldn't share things from InformationWeek in FriendFeed, and REAL FriendFeed users such as Robert Scoble wouldn't set up a Building 43 room in FriendFeed...what? Seriously, the logic that refers to this item as spam completely escapes me. I'm subscribed to Aline now...
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
The only thing is that I'd be worried about storing things like database credentials in my PHP code, as well as my FTP login information "in the cloud". Other than that, it looks pretty slick.
- ax0n
Wow @Frank, someone pissed in your coffee this morning. How about you just go away, since you are coming off like a lousy troll? Maybe he's already gone, since he hasn't commented in a while. Thanks @Aline for the great link. Don't get frazzled by idiots.
- Fleagle
Nice link and interesting webapp, but I think I will stay with vim/emacs/Sublime/jEdit.
- Artem Daniliants
"The city of Amsterdam has held an ‘adaptive reuse design competition’ to redesign two abandoned sewage treatment silos in Zeeburgereiland. With one of the three silos set to be converted into an office building, the remaining towers silos were open to proposal"
- clarke thomas
from Bookmarklet
I wish i could work some place that fostered creativity...
- Tad
i don't understand why more companies aren't creative in office space. google, pixar, etc. all the top companies know that old 50's cubes are out and new "open" "inviting" areas are in.
- Chris Harris
But but but, that's what FF is for! ;)
- Mona Nomura
.....why are there like 8 jars of peanut butter and like... ONE jar of jelly? BIZARRE
- Mona Nomura
Mona: Perhaps there are more varieties of Peanut Butter (Creamy, Chunky, Organic, etc), but everyone only likes Strawberry jelly.
- Justin Korn
JK: but only one jar? I would fight people to get to it everyday... Dude, this is in Emeryville. We should SO go check it out
- Mona Nomura
It wouldn't be that hard for Facebook. They're tiny compared to Google's massive campus. They don't even need a cafeteria. They could just hook up a deal with the restaurant that's next to them on the bottom floor or any of the other eateries around them.
- Louie
Mona: I'd be totally down to go check it out!
- Justin Korn
@Louis: but it's the THOUGHT that counts dude. @JK: I wonder if there're any FFers who work at Pixar... hmmmmmm
- Mona Nomura
i've seen this. pretty cool stuff. it actually makes one want to work productively
- Cee Bee
Mona: I bet there is, but if not, someone out there (Robert Scoble, Louis Gray, etc.) has got to know someone...
- Justin Korn
great pics. But that facility looks much more blah than I imagined Pixar to be
- Aspi
from twhirl
Got a buddy who works there and went on a tour... amazing place. They even have family oriented events in their quad area. Their movie theater gets special advance screenings of all the major blockbusters. Sadly, I'm still waiting for my invite... ;)
- Jericho
I worked next to the Pixar compound for 3 years. They have a lunch room, yet they kicked out one lunch spot and are still trying to get Semifreddi's to move. I like the movies, but it would have been nice (given their lunch room and roving cake cart) that they'd preserve lunch spots for the rest of us.
- AJ Kohn
It's too bad more people (in my circle of friends) don't use friendfeed. Then again, they don't use Twitter either. Everyone is on Facebook tho :-/
- Doug Jones
I DO agree with you there Leo Laporte.. me either.. and the new Seesmic Desktop client didn't help either.. friendfeed ftw
- Qbat
I haven't visited Twitter since I figured out how to post via IRC.
- Pete Brown
My Twitter activity has dropped as well. What's ironic is that I'm hearing about a lot of Twitter issues since the new FF beta... very strange
- Bwana ☠
Rob: I meant here with the FF beta ui
- Mark Essel
I'm with you all, the FF realtime feed has almost completely replaced twitter.com for me. Wild
- Jeff Carter
I'd bet the Twitter issues are being caused by all the FriendFeeder's dumping their content back into Twitter through the API. Just a guess though.
- The Griff
mark... yeah add filters ;o) use them. :o) if not following bwana follow him... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
thanks Rob, I suppose there's a better way to get this to update then hitting refresh?
- Mark Essel
it all updates live time now anyway. :o) but yeah use filters ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
I think in a lot of ways Twitter is *too* minimalist. I appreciate at least one level of comment threading that almost every other site supports. Also, sometimes I like to be wordy and don't want to post everything in 160 character chunks.
- Doug Jones
@Rob: I get all interesting posts delivered to Tweetdeck anyway (because ppl crosspost) and always used FF for discussions and not "regular updates".. I'm pretty happy with Facebook, being for close friends, FriendFeed being for discussions and Twitter for everything else (like recently spending time with my friend, the whale) :)
- Dan van Moll
But Leo, you are a Social Media Butterfly. ;)
- Robert Hafer
@Bwana: That's true! Since FF beta release on monday the "whale-rate" increased significant. Twitter recently disabled the "delete" function for tweets -- maybe to ease server load (see elections 2008, where they did this, too).
- Dan van Moll
Am learning how to use FF. Pretty good I think :)
- mahjongmi
@Doug: Same here.. But I'm pretty fine with my "real life friends" being on Facebook and everyone else being on the twitters/friendfeed.. especially since the new Tweetdeck made monitoring Twitter and Facebook so easy.
- Dan van Moll
I wish I could "automatically" have all of my twitter friends' posts show up in ff. I've imported all of my twitter friends who are on ff, into ff, but for those twitter friends who are NOT on ff, is what I'm missing, and forcing me to still watch twitter a bit. Any good solutions to that?
- Dan Nimtz
This is interesting? Will this be the new twitter? I would like some customization too.
- Disney By The Numbers
what i am waiting for Dan.. that way I can stop using twitter full stop :o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
Hmm maybe I should just invest a little more time into "learning friendfeed" (especially lists). In general it has everything Twitter got plus a better visualization of discussions.. do you all use the website or are there tools like Tweetdeck out yet?
- Dan van Moll
use the website dan ;o) how can we all not improve it via feedback if we dont use it ;o) these people ACT on feedback ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
ok I'm following @bwana, now to find those filters...(got blind sided by 3 articles)
- Mark Essel
Figured out how to see non FF Twitter friends on my feed...may not work for protected updates tho.
- The Griff
Griff.. care to share? i got a room with all my twitter replies going to it.. but really want a stream with ALL my twitter in it, so i just reply from here.
- Rob Sellen :o)
ahh I see there's a beta.friendfeed.com hmmm looks familiar
- Mark Essel
Posted it to my feed. Basically just "Create a Feed", make it private if you want. Then add the twitter service pointing to your (unprotected) friends. Can do one feed per friend to make it clearer or one big feed if you want. Still checking whether it'll work for protected friends...thinking it might since you are already signed into Twitter from FF.
- The Griff
The funny thing is that I read this while listening to the Gillmor Gang from last weekend which was all about Friendfeed.
- Michael K Pate
Leo, are you automatically creating imaginary friends for people that are on Twitter but not on FriendFeed? Anyone know of something automated for that?
- Jason Carter
Same here. Now if only FriendFeed had a native iPhone App. But Nambu is pretty good.
- Adam Nieto
thats what I already do griff.. i dont get the whole twitter stream.. ;o(
- Rob Sellen :o)
I did once... to follow someone who was only on twitter. But this place is home now.
- Aaron
Trying out friendfeed for the first time... seems pretty cool
- Danny Dunn
I think I might just make this my home too!
- Kevin J Hatton
do you follow all your twitter friends here? I wasn't able to get that rss feed into FF
- Mark Essel
Really glad to have you over here Leo. It really is a superior medium.
- Thomas Hawk
Liking the iPhone UI though a native app will be nice. Tweetie sets the bar for Twitter clients let's hope for something similar on the iPhone. But I would like a desktop app too.
- Ken Knight
I'll visit Twitter just to see if people have replied to me in Twitter.
- John E. Bredehoft
Honnestly, I don't understand. You've just "broadcasted" this message, Leo. Where's your contribution to this discussion? Live, real-time or not... where's the difference (to you)?
- directeur
Griff: Not clear on what you're doing and/or getting out of the feed you made. Rob's question seems to still stand? What the goal is: Have all those that you follow on twitter to be feeding in (as FF friends or as invisible friends) to a single feed which would then represent everything that you would see via the twitter web page. Not necessarily real elegant, but less frustrating that fail whales ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
I've looked at Twitter more since Beta came out than the previous 30 days.
- JSNFLMNG
Twitter may be a good place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
- Louis Gray
I was forced there as the corporate firewall blocked out friendfeed :S
- Sanne Buurma
I can't completely cut the cord from the twitters. Way too many friends there that will NEVER use friendfeed.
- tomit
I initially had one private feed setup for all of my non-FF Twitter friends. I've switched to having a private feed set per non-FF Twitter friend. Each time a friend posts on Twitter it comes into my FF stream. I can then reply and by checking the box send an @ reply back to Twitter. Hope that answers the question @guruvan. The problem with having the single feed is that people become unidentifiable. I'm sure an enhancement could be made to FF to fix that. Think the 1:1 is better though.
- The Griff
that is really awesome!! FF is kicking ass! woo hoo!
- Susan Beebe
The new FF Ui might very well be the perfect excuse to stop visiting twitter.
- Pedro Fonseca
I have, but I started using FriendFeed more after the UI change
- Cristian
I generally like the new UI but, I have to say, I'm getting burned out on the long comment threads here on FriendFeed. I just don't have time for it and I'm getting better information density on Twitter. Less is more for me.
- Mike Doeff
It would be nice if FF implemented a Twitter client using the API and automatically made non-FF users imaginary.
- Peter Warnock
How about opening up a method in the API to create imaginary friends and let the community build some tools to automate porting friends from other services?
- Brian Stoner
Then why is it all up and down FF, I see posts from you from Twitter, Leo? Am I missing something?
- Steve Austin
Steve, if you view the Twitter profile and see the source they are from FriendFeed, Tumblr etc ;)
- Nicholas James
So when I see the twitter icon next to one of his posts, that doesn't mean that it was first posted on twitter? I'm not trying to be accusatory or anything, just trying to learn...
- Steve Austin
I second this motion. Tired of recreating friend groups.
- Bryan Griffith
Steve; sometimes posts which receive "likes" and "comments" get bumped in the users feed. Although it does appear that Leo is using Twitter unless FriendFeed is recognizing the imported Tumblr items to Twitter as a source from Twitter. I'm not exactly sure on that.
- Nicholas James
It seems as though most people on Twitter INSIST on posting the very same tweets here, too. So what's the point of reading Twitter again?
- Stan Scott
That is the frustration most have. FF consolidates all feeds for all social sites in one location, so redundancy is inevitable.Now if FF incorporated a service like Ping.fm into the site, and build an app to support all mobile phones and appliances you would never have to go anywhere else! ;)
- Aaron Friedman
My reaction is that FriendFeed does not really add value over Twitter and other silos.
- Scott Royall
That's nothing yet! I haven't ate, drank or slept since the beta came out. I'm gonna sue these FF bastards, mark my words. ;)
- Meryn Stol
Scott: really? You clearly have NOT looked very deeply.
- Robert Scoble
Twitter never got me, or i never really "got" twitter. I'm much happier here on FF, not really because its real time, but because i find the content and conversations much more interesting.
- Lasse Johnsen
Oh and i actually FIND the content and conversations here.
- Lasse Johnsen
I have said it before and I'll say it again: How much can you really say in 140 characters anyway?
- Meryn Stol
I'm unimpresed. Think about it. You have to have an account on every service you want to aggregate. Each of those accounts has to be maintained. If you don't have those sources, you have a very dull FF account.
- Scott Royall
Scott, you can participate on FF without using any external services. Just comment, and post messages (and links) yourself. It's very much like Twitter then. Only way better UI. A UI which is impossible to duplicate on the Twitter platform atm.
- Meryn Stol
You want imaginary accounts that generates imaginary content? Thats totally Web 5.0!
- Lasse Johnsen
Yeah? :-) Good for you :-). I was enjoying your episode on the xserve today.
- Richard A.
What is the goal of Social Networking? To provide a way to interact with people who interest us, right? So why do we keep re-inventing it? Each time we do, we have to rebuild our commnities.
- Scott Royall
Scott: because we keep figuring out new things to do with it. Yelp is a social network for restaurant reviews. Upcoming.org is a social network for events. Friendfeed is needed because Twitter doesn't do enough. I'm sure there'll be others that will come along that will compete with friendfeed, too.
- Robert Scoble
My take: Something like FF ends up accidentally doing the opposite of what it intends by creating yet another refuge for discerning users to flee to.
- Scott Royall
Scott: ff is doing something other social networks have proven incapable of doing so far. First, it's live. Second, it has filtering that Twitter will never be able to match (Twitter doesn't have the metadata that friendfeed has). Third, friendfeed has a much better conversation surface than Twitter does (or facebook). Fourth, friendfeed's rooms (er, feeds) are a place where you can do private business much better than on any other network. Fifth, friendfeed's direct messaging features actually work.
- Robert Scoble
Finally, I just saw my fifth fail whale of the day over on Twitter. Friendfeed hasn't failed for me EVER (it was down for an hour quite a few months ago but is 100 times more reliable than Twitter and faster than Facebook).
- Robert Scoble
I am happy for you. Unfortunately you still cannot get Friendfeed via SMS so when I am at work, I cannot get those updates so I will stick with both.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
Paul: yup, there's a lot of things that Twitter does that friendfeed doesn't. It's why I stay on both too.
- Robert Scoble
Paul, you can receive FF updates via IM, would that be a viable option?
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Yes Robert, you duplicate effort, which was my point.
- Scott Royall
Scott: there's a tax to pay and I paid it. Yes! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, social networking is a major part of your life. I think most people just fit it in.
- Scott Royall
Scott: there are more and more people who make this stuff a major part of their lives. You've gotta see the engagement stats for Facebook. Off the charts. My wife is addicted.
- Robert Scoble
It's all Rob's fault that twitter is being ignored by me. Is it coincidence with the new ff ui? They say that things happen in perfect timing, when they're supposed to.
- Myrna
It seems to me there are two sides to social media: personal and professional. Just when I figured Twitter would win the professional side Friendfeed beta comes out. I have to wonder if the beta will cause the services' roles to switch. Then again why would anyone but close friends care about my Netflix queue, etc? Perhaps that's what filtering will help but FF needs some templates.
- The Griff
please pardon me, but new UI is terrible :P I pray God twitter will never change.
- 'Like' robot (frɐnc)
"The ability to easily bookmark or share content on popular social media platforms is now a must have feature for web sites. It’s also important that this feature isn’t over looked by web site visitors. So it’s always a good idea to use icons when linking to social media sites. They get peoples attention and the logos are immediately recognizable. I’ve taken the time to round up what I believe are the best free social media icons out there."
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
"No other president's disapproval rating has gone higher than 70 percent. Bush has managed to do that three times so far this year," says CNN polling director Keating Holland. "That means that Bush is now more unpopular than Richard Nixon was when he resigned from office during Watergate with a 66 percent disapproval rating." Before Bush, the record holder for presidential disapproval was Harry Truman, with a 67 percent disapproval rating in January of 1952, his last full year in office.
- Thomas Hawk
from Bookmarklet
I feel safe in predicting that history will be much kinder to him than social media. Much. Nicer.
- Mike Lewis
from Alert Thingy
W's captures are so unfortunate. He always looks like Curious George.
- Mona Nomura
Congress' numbers are worse, but nobody noticed
- Robert Hafer
I do have to say that I loved David Letterman's "Great Moments in Presidential Speeches" series that he did on Bush.
- Thomas Hawk
No president has provided more comedic material than W. If nothing else, we enter into a wasteland the likes of which we've never seen, one where we'll see the real measure of The Daily Show's writers. How good are they without a 1,000 pounds of raw material daily? I think our national comedy defense is strong and we'll be fine, but it may be rocky for a while :)
- Bob M. Montgomery
As long as no more terrorist attacks have occurred during his watch - good to go.
- tony
STDs have a higher approval rating that Bush.
- Admiral Anika
Are STD's more popular than Democratic Congress too?
- tony
It's too bad that congressional approval ratings aren't broken down by party. It's easy for folks to say that Congress's low approval rating is the fault of the majority party, but that logic is at odds with election results where Democrats were re-elected to every post they ran for, while many Republican incumbents lost their seats.
- Kevin Fox
Kevin, rest assured that Democrats in Congress share ratings just as low as the Republicans. The Democrat advancements last Tuesday are due solely to the Obama's coat tails, not to the fact that America thinks they're doing a great job. Proof in point: When the Democrat leadership was speaking several weeks ago on the financial crisis, Wall Street tanked. The minute they shut up, it recovered. That happened every single time they went in front of microphones. Every. Time.
- Gregory Pittman
from twhirl
Gregory: I'm not sure what you mean. I'd like you to find a single Democrat (or Republican) in Congress who has an approval rating as low as President Bush. Here's a source to get you started: http://www.surveyusa.com/50State... The approval rating of an institution is completely different than the approval rating of its constituent members, and it's overly simplistic to try and brand an institution's low approval rating on a single party.
- Kevin Fox
I would even go so far as to suggest that the low approval rating of the US Congress is largely due to its perceived ineffectiveness in challenging or reversing the abusive practices of the Executive office.
- Kevin Fox
So they were ineffective in challenging Bush's policies. They're the majority party in both houses and have been for years and they get low ratings because they were ineffective in challenging Bush's policies. That doesn't even come close to approaching logic.
- Gregory Pittman
funny how the conversation is being diverted from bush to congress as if they had anything to do with the last 8 shitty years
- Cee Bee
...and Truman was one of our great presidents. Nixon was the best Environmental president in 50 years.... and blah blah... proves nothing. Bush did fuck up the loan situation... but popularity polls... make me like him
- Noah David Simon
Cee Bee, are you saying they had *nothing* to do with the last 8 years? I hope not, because if you are, you're showing a gross lack of understanding of the American political system. Chris, indeed they have been a no-op Congress but accomplishing the things you suggest here would have been detrimental for America. No doubt we're about to see just how detrimental.
- Gregory Pittman
from twhirl
I agree that Congress has been ineffective for the last several years, and that it deserves low ratings. I do however disagree with assertions that the low approval ratings are an indictment of the Democratic party. If that were the case, the Democrats wouldn't have drastically solidified their hold on both houses last week, and I don't buy the coat-tails argument.
- Kevin Fox
they've been around for two years and like chris white wrote, have pretty much gone along with the bush administration's follies in order to not step on toes. regardless of that, this thread was about bush and his failures until a few of you"party loyalists" tried to flip the issue in order to cloud/avoid the subject
- Cee Bee
It'll be interesting to see if Howard Dean's successor will invigorate Congress beyond simply trying to limit GWB's damage.
- Kevin Fox
I'm not so sure the Democrats were merely following Obama's coat-tails. Democrats picked up House seats in states that didn't even go for Obama, and in states that did go for Obama, some Democratic candidates won by much higher margins than Obama did.
- Victor Ganata
You can't do very much when the minority party makes sure to block you whenever they can, and even if you manage to push something through, there's a veto pen waiting at the other end.
- Victor Ganata
Well, no excuses now. You guys have the ball. Dems: Please give us a date you will cease blaming Bush and take some responsibility. I bet we have to wait til the mid term elections. Kind of like a dog chasing a bus. What do you do when you catch it? Tee hee.
- Oldengrey (Jay)
January 20, 2009. I may keep blaming Bush/Cheney, for the things that need to be fixed (privacy, civil liberties, Gitmo, Iraq), but I won't blame him for continuing to try and block them.
- Kevin Fox
At least he's leaving, the sooner we can move on the better...
- Grant Bierman
Odd how GWB is so unpopular and Obama is so popular, when they share so much in common.
- ComicList
The comments of Bush supporters and apologists continue to be as empty-headed and substance free as they have been for the last eight years. They simply can't discuss policy issues in an informed and rational way. That is how we got into our current mess and why it is that Bush has pegged the unpopularity meter.
- Sean McBride
Hey guys. here's an opportunity to agree on something. Bush was a terrible president, right? We (all) I hope want the best for Obama, because we want the best for our country, agreed?
- Rod Bauer
from twhirl
We may not agree he was the absolute worst, but there's no disputing the fact that he was terrible. But, unless you've got a crystal ball that actually works, there's no telling what will happen the next two years (until the next midterms.) With the economic disaster, it's not going to be pretty no matter what the government does. Hopefully we'll make to the other side OK.
- Victor Ganata
"Ha HA" in my best Nelson voice from the Simpsons
- sofarsoShawn
Nixon was the most popular elected president ever. your point is lost on me. check the 1972 election results http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... ...in fact most people during Watergate still liked Nixon. and for good reason. relative to the other people (besides Reagan) in the last fifty years he was a strong leader.
- Noah David Simon
Instructive comment - Henry Kissinger once asked Chinese PM Chou En-Lei "what do you think about the repercussions of the French Revolution, in the present day?". Without missing a beat, Chou replied "Too soon to tell" Note - French Revolution began in 1789.
- Russell Wagner
exactly @Russell Wagner you are quoting the Nixon admininstration.... hence Nixon is not really a pariah. I'm not justifying Watergate... but with Nixon you are dealing with a man who was a good leader for the most part. if you compare Nixon to W Bush it is not a shock who is more popular. better to compare W with Carter
- Noah David Simon
Mohomed, do you have any particular reason for resurrecting this old chestnut? Not complaining, just curious... It's a keeper for sure though :-)
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Just making the point NoahDavidSimon - too soon to tell...
- Russell Wagner
I find it ridiculous that you are talking about Bush when Obama's Chas Freeman is in the news. guess what zionist hater!? you lose http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Noah David Simon
OMG. A fact! Let's not talk about *that* but instead make specious statements of comparison! Let's shift the conversation to another political body entirely! Too bad they don't track the US approval rating of dictators, huh? Maybe I should try this when I get a performance review. "Nevermind my rating, what about that Angolan dictator!" [edit] Sorry, but it's annoying to see such rationalization. He was one of the most unpopular presidents while in office. Deal with it.
- AJ Kohn
"U.S. President Barack Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner received failing grades for their efforts to revive the economy from participants in the latest Wall Street Journal forecasting survey." http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Noah David Simon
"Yes, free the president from his flacks, fixers and goons -- his posse of smirky smart alecks and provincial rubes, who were shrewd enough to beat the slow, pompous Clintons in the mano-a-mano primaries but who seem like dazed lost lambs in the brave new world of federal legislation and global statesmanship. Heads should be rolling at the White House for the embarrassing series of...
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- Noah David Simon
and you still talking about Bush? where you on the football team in highschool?
- Noah David Simon
@NDS: Again. Apples vs. Turtles. Approval of a President by People versus Approval of a President's handling of a topic by a group of economists. These are *not* alike. For the record I'm an avid Obama supporter but I *do* dislike his handling of the economic crisis. And whether you like it or not, Bush *was* unpopular leaving office. No amount of comparison or tangential topics will change that.
- AJ Kohn
I'd say when the economics guys says you suck... that is a rather bad sign. Truman was a great president. so was Lincoln. both unpopular. Nixon I mentioned was the most popular... for a while. shows how fleeting pop love is. Robert Scoble was the whale of the Alist. now he is leaving Fast Company. give me the king of the world and I will show you an easy target to harpoon. I didn't vote...
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- Noah David Simon
"What do you think Bush’s legacy will be? You know, I think the closeness of his administration to events right now and the public perspective on those events and his handling of those events and the outcome—you know, right now, I think, has a mixed result. ’Cause while everyone could scream and jump up and down about the war, you can’t take away from the guy a number of things. One, he...
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- Noah David Simon
"Now the iPod can answer the question: Am iDrunk? A new product called the iBreath turns Apple Inc.'s iPod into an alcohol breathalyzer. The $79 accessory plugs into the base of the iPod and functions like a field sobriety test. The person using the iBreath exhales into a retractable "blow wand" and the internal sensor measures the blood-alcohol content. Within two seconds, it displays the results on an LED screen. A reading of 0.08 or above sets off an alarm, signaling a blood-alcohol level above the legal limit in all 50 states"
- RAPatton
from Bookmarklet
"Moreover, Dean-Mooney questions the accuracy of the device. Law enforcement agents use instruments that are calibrated monthly, and accurate readings require the person taking a field sobriety test to blow "deep lung air," she said. iBreath claims to offer results in as little as five seconds within 0.01% accuracy. "I'm afraid it not only causes young people to use it as a training...
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- RAPatton
A car breathalyzer is one of the last barriers to drunk driving prevention for DUI offenders who want to stay out of jail. A car breathalyzer, also known as an ignition interlock device, requires drivers to give a breath sample prior to starting their cars. If the breathalyzer detects a certain amount of alcohol, the car simply will not start. Often used by the courts as a combination...
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- Thomas Hawk
I've never been on a sled. Of course, growing up in Beaumont, Texas, didn't help with that. But that's a pretty piece of kit.
- Mistletoe Glen
I prefer round plastic sleds which have 0 steering control, placing you life at risk. If you can't find a hill, they also work really well for skitching (wonder how many folks know what that means).
- Andrew Leyden
been a while since i let a car drag me around...
- xero
isn't there a law that says products like this can only be sold through the Sharper Image catalog? or does that no longer apply since they went bankrupt?
- Karim
Whoa. Slam-worthy. It haz zee German engineering. But, seems a bit high profile for true aerodynamic maximization.
- Martha
Karim, I think you'll find it next month's SkyMall ;)
- Michael W. May
If somebody made me one of those, I wouldn't eat it. I would buy a big glass display case for it and hire a bodyguard to protect it 24/7!!!
- Mark O'Neill
And Singlehandedly, Mona starts a n AT-AT Gingerbread epidemic!
- Bill Sanders
sometimes I wonder if my friends have too much time on their hands. And then I see pictures like this and realize that some people operate on entirely different levels of awesome.
- Fraser
I'll be impressed when I see the gingerbread death star. Ok I'm already impressed..I'll be more impressed!
- Mike Lewis
Just use Friendfeed; longer tweets push here.
- Kenley Neufeld
Yeah, but if there's a convo on Twitter and you need to say something longer than 140 chars for some reason, this could come in handy. Not everyone following the convo will be on FF.
- Grey Drane
Twittermail also lets you send beyond 140 characters. It doesn't make a nice blog page like twitblogs.
- Kevin Shannon
sounds like a viagra for twitter commercial :)
- (jeff)isageek
Wasn't there a BigTweet(?) service, too?
- Tyson Key
I like the fact that Twitter cuts out the waffle and keeps the author to the point!
- PRBristolco.uk
Nah, that would become macroblogging!
- rampantheart
i love this, but already use it. it's called regular blogging.
- Jeremy Toeman
+100 Jeremy - at some point it isn't a tweet - and at some point tweets just become links (or pointers for those of you who program in C).
- Brian Roy
Tyson - Yes, BigTweet is at http://bigtweet.com Tweets up to 240 characters from a bookmarklet. Also shortens URLs and can capture link, title and highlighted text. Support for special Unicode characters too. Full disclosure: I wrote it :)
- Scott Carter
Dark Helmet: If there's one thing I despise, it is a fair fight. But if I must, then I must. May the best man win. Put 'er there. [Reaches out to shake Lone Starr's hand and takes his Schwartz ring] Dark Helmet: The Ring! I can't believe you fell for the oldest trick in the book! What a fool, what's with you man, c'mon? Here let me give it back to you. Oh! [throws it down a hole] Dark Helmet: Oh, look at that, you fell for that too! I can't believe it, man!
- Nathan Chase
"I knew it! I'm surrounded by assholes."
- Daniel Bruce
My son's girlfriend has not seen any of the early Star War movies -- she just didn't get most of the jokes in Spaceballs -- I guess the fate of spoofs -- you have understand the spoofed subject to get the humour.
- Brian Sullivan
[watching himself crash into the ship's console while fast-forwarding through Spaceballs: The Movie video cassette] Dark Helmet: No, no, no. Go past this. Pass this part. In fact, never play this again.
- (jeff)isageek
Say goodbye to your two best friends, and I'm not talking about the ones in the Winnebago!
- (jeff)isageek
Very good advice, Thomas. A comment on no. 6 ("Groups"): I remember Flickr staff mentioning that not only photos that are in too many groups (more than 10-15, as a rule of thumb) get penalties for their Explore rating. Allegedly, this is also true for photos that are in the *wrong* groups, specifically the ubiquitous "post 1, comment x" groups. So not all photo critique groups might be good when you want to get your pictures into Explore.
- Ole Begemann
Ole, I hadn't heard that certain groups penalized photos but have seen Flickr staff in the past mention that posting your photo to too many groups will reduce it's visibility with their algorithm.
- Thomas Hawk
Re: no. 5 ("Explore"): more criteria that seem to influence whether a photo makes it to Explore: the presence of EXIF data, geotags, title, description has a positive influence; faves and comments from people who are not among your contacts seem to count more than from contacts; faves and comments from popular photographers count more than those from nobodys; a photo that gets 2 or 3 faves within minutes after uploading is more likely to make Explore than one that gets faved 15 times within 24 hours.
- Ole Begemann
Thomas, I'll try to find a reference for this.
- Ole Begemann
Good point on EXIF data Ole, yes, photos in Explore are required to have EXIF data. My own guess as to why this is is that if a photo has EXIF data it is more likely to be your own photo vs. something you simply ripped from the web. Not foolproof of course but I'd guess that this policy is in part due to a desire to increase the authenticity of the photos promoted on Explore.
- Thomas Hawk
If you look at the photos in Explore, the only "Leave a comment" groups that I see with any regularity are TWTME and 1-2-3 groups... what makes them special I'm not sure, other than they're amongst the largest groups in general. But you see very few of those award groups or "leave x comments" groups in the photos in Explore, so I suspect that Flickr must be penalizing them.
- Eric P
Thomas, that's a great refresher on the original article. Some great tips.
- Tom Quinn
And Thomas, throwing reciprocation in as a "bonus"? It should have been #1 or #2. The vast, vast, vast majority of comments and faves that I receive are from people whose stream I previously visited. The only real exception to that is when a photo is high in Explore, which results in a torrent of views/comments/faves from strangers.
- Eric P
Yep Eric. Reciprocation is very high. Bonus tip might not be the best place for it. It's very important. Faving back when people fave your work, commenting back. Adding people back as mutual contacts, etc. All encourage activity on your photostream.
- Thomas Hawk
Eric, participation groups don't penalize your photo from Explore best I can tell. This photo http://www.flickr.com/photos... from a few weeks ago was in the Deleteme Uncensored critique group and was #3 on Explore as well.
- Thomas Hawk
In fact just searching flickr for the save10 tag from the DMU critique group along with "explore" brings up a number of photos: http://www.flickr.com/search...
- Thomas Hawk
Good post, *IF* getting attention is important to you, as opposed to using it as a vehicle to just share photos with people
- Eric Rice
After I read your original article on Flickr popularity a while back, I began reciprocating every comment received. That worked very well.
- Tom Harrison
Eric, true. Some people have no interest in their photos receiving attention. I do think that the majority of people posting on Flickr though do appreciate when their photos receive some attention. Lots of people do not though. I have friends that only publish private photos that their friends can see and opt out of every public aspect of Flickr. I think these people though are the exception rather than the norm and think that Caterina's quote is pretty typical of the most active users on the site.
- Thomas Hawk
Alright, I found something. Flickr staff member acknowledged almost 2 years ago that "groups that force people to comment/fave on certain photos with no choice" do in fact hurt your Explore chances. Also, "weight of comments and favorites from contacts is quite low in interestingness calculation." (http://www.flickr.com/groups...). A very old post and the algorithm has changed since then but we can probably say that the gist of it is still true.
- Ole Begemann
interesting Ole. I hadn't seen that. I think it would be difficult for Flickr to manually track every group that encourages tags and comments as participation. Per the links above though, photos in DMU have definitely made it into Explore anyways.
- Thomas Hawk
Yeah, I have no idea how they maintain a list of the "bad" groups. Further below, SilentObserver mentions his business is writing algorithms to filter them out automatically, though.
- Ole Begemann
Here is an example of tagging. I did not know this woman was a celebrity until after got this shot. It appears on the first page of the image search engines and it has received over 12,000 views. http://flickr.com/photos...
- Russellreno
So far I got 3 (!) photos into explore. Their common factor? They all were faved by you (TH) soon after I posted theim.
- Guillaume Lemoine
Flickr used to say "who" faves your shots was a part of the Explore algorithm. It wouldn't surprise me if the algorithm weights faves by different people from the Flickr community differently. For instance, Pro accounts where people actually have paid for the service might be weighted higher than non-Pro accounts. More active users might carry more weight with their faves then less active users. Just speculating on this part.
- Thomas Hawk
Thomas - I don't think that participation in all groups gets a penalty, just that there are some groups that are penalized as far as Explore is concerned. I simply don't see Explore photos in "Post 1, Comment X" groups - so either there's no explore-worthy photos in those groups (not likely IMHO), or Flickr is penalizing the photos in those groups.
- Eric P
As a note to certain groups penalizing your photos...I had a photo (http://www.flickr.com/photos...) that went to explore spot 150 or so. After, I added it to a few groups to see if I could bump it higher. It had the opposite affect and immediately dropped off. I can't say which group exactly did it or if it was the number of groups I submitted to, but adding to groups definitely does come with some sort of penalty.
- Justin Korn
If you use FeedBurner, you can splice your Flickr photos into your blog feed. I have it splice my last two photos and I find those have at least 5x the number of views as the ones that aren't in my spliced feed.
- Mike Hussein Cohen
Awesome post Thomas. I signed up for Flickr a couple of years ago, but only started using it more regularly after the purchase of a digital SLR camera - so this post is particularly relevant to me. I am still patiently waiting for that first comment/favourite on one of my photos to truly experience the emotions as described by Caterina Fake.
- Jeff Smith
Thanks for this post, Thomas. Great tips!
- Eric Johnson
Great article Thomas... I was also wondering about what my friend calls 'Shooting for the 75'. That is, a great majority of people only ever see a 75 x 75px thumbnail of your photo. When he processes, he always does a square crop to test how it looks in the frame. Would you like to see proportional thumbnails as an option?
- Johnny Worthington
I actually really like the square thumbnails. Heck I really like the square crop period. I think I'm cropping more and more of my photos 4x4 these days. Maybe it's just that I've always loved medium format photography so much, not sure why I'm so drawn to the square crop right now though. I much prefer Flickr's square thumbnails actually. Still would love to see larger sizes on FF like SmugMug's thumbnails.
- Thomas Hawk
you're right though. Frequently it's the thumbnail that draws people into a photo. A good looking thumbnail is more likely to be selected by viewers for clicking through to full size viewing, commenting, faving, etc.
- Thomas Hawk
One of my very first Flickr experiences was someone in a critique group cutting me down for a square crop. It was a rose in a perfect spiral petal pattern, could only be cropped square as far as I was concerned. LOL...I didn't change it either.
- Karoli
Haha, that's funny Karoli. so much of the criticism in critique groups on Flickr is so lame. You should have seen the deleteme critique group ravage a Henry Cartier Bresson photograph who is probably considered by most photo historians as the greatest photographer who ever lived. Read some of these comments on this photo for a laugh: http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Thomas Hawk
I used to work to get photos into explore. I think I probably take better pictures now, but I don't have the time at the moment to put in the work. Lots of community building and commenting went into the mix. I confess, there's a real rush to hitting the front page. I had three in the top 10, and it was a lot of fun.
- Karoli
I have been doing a lot of panoramic shots over the past year and I have started to play around with vertical cropping. Taking a portrait photo and cropping a really tight vertical crop: http://www.flickr.com/photos... It's all about how the picture looks to you in the end. Square, circle or hexagon, it's about the sensory reaction :) (and now I'm going to square crop for this week just to try it out, thanks guys)
- Johnny Worthington
Thomas, those comments are a hoot! I met some nice people in some of the critique groups, but it didn't take me long to know the critiques weren't helping. I do love Flickr's community...even if I haven't spent a lot of time in it lately.
- Karoli
yeah, the attention from Explore can be fun. But I'm pretty unimpressed with a lot of the photos there. I think Flickr could do a much better job with that algorithm. I do find filtering explore just by my contacts though produces more consistently interesting photographs for me. I use this script to do just that: http://www.drewmyersphoto.net/flickr_...
- Thomas Hawk
Agree on the photo quality on Explore. Seems like a lot of the same sort of gimmicky stuff lands there. Looking forward to trying the script.
- Karoli
Thanks for the article, that opened my eyes up a lot
- Alex Carpenter
Hey Karoli, here's you and your daughter by the way. I uploaded this to Zooomr a while back when I was taking a break from Flickr but uploaded it tonight on Flickr. Great fun on that photowalk. http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Thomas Hawk
Hey, cool! Thanks for the pointer. It was a great photowalk, would love to do another sometime soon!
- Karoli
Here is one more way to get attention: Comment on this post with a link to one of your photos. I received a hit today from the comment about. http://www.flickr.com/photos...
- Russellreno
sure thing - and it's still only a workaround - hopefully Apple will finally implement a native version of this soon
- Frederic
I don't get what compels them to NOT add such a basic...but needed feature
- Jon Gosier
from IM
@jon - exactly - but Apple works in mysterious ways...
- Frederic
@Jon, it's something about the fact that the iPhone OS never runs more than one app at a time. Therefore you can't have a clipboard running all the time to capture the copies. I may be wrong but that is the way I understand it.
- Kenton
I think they are probably working a Copy/Paste facility, but want to make absolutely sure that they are happy with it before releasing to the world.
- Paul Grav
I agree Paul - though it almost seems like they were able to get the iPhone OS out faster than the copy and paste function...
- Frederic
Apple has this amazing way of holding back basic features and until the masses are starving for them and foaming at the mouth. Then they release them to a wide-eyed frantically clapping audience with a fancy keynote and they are heralded as revolutionaries. I see cut'n'paste following this same formula.
- Phil Whelan
what about the so called 'security' flaw ?? any feedback on that?
- Susan Beebe
Yep Phil, Apple are master marketers. Things that people really want will always sell better than, trying to push something they don't really want
- Allison
Susan, the security flaw was users unable to follow instructions (not sure if it was because the instructions were confusing, or because the users weren't reading carefully). I believe that the pastebud folks have fixed it so that users don't have to do their own configuring anymore. You still wouldn't want to use the bookmarklets for sensitive material.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
The thing is, I don't really miss it. Then again, I didn't start using a computer that *could* copy and paste until the mid-'90's.
- Victor Ganata
You can read about the security flaw here: http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008.... It's been explained and "fixed". but i'm not confident enough yet to use it constantly. Rule here is to never "copy" and paste any sensitive data.
- David Bisset (sn)
*I* missed copy/paste, especially when I wanted to use the bookmarklet to share something on FF with a quote. There was no way I was going to type all that out on that miserable keyboard. Another scenario was wanting to send a link to someone else.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
What do you need help with? Renewing it? Just click on your name in the upper right to access your account and then you should see a link that says something like manage pro account and you can renew it there.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I looked at your photostream and enjoyed it. Get a PayPal link and I'll chip in $5 for the $25 renewal. Get four more folks and you're good.
- Kevin C. Tofel
I used to have one through Verizon and they're taking it away! BOOOO
- Sarah Perez
I am in agreement with the link Rich posted. I use the FriendFeed realtime page in a Firefox sidebar. Works excellently well, and better than any native client would. How to: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- David Wilson
I want this posted on my wall, in supersize proportion, hehe! :)
- Danielle Closs
I'm with Danielle. Massive poster of this. And one for each of my coworkers as well, but more as an admonishment than anything else...
- tinypants - Hagitha of FF
'I hope I didn't kill anyone': Top Gun pilot's first words moments after his U.S. fighter jet slammed into suburb, leaving three dead | Mail Online - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news...
"Three generations of the same family were killed when a fighter jet crashed in a residential street in California, turning their home into a fireball."
- clarke thomas
from Bookmarklet
Haven't been paying attention to the news all morning, so not sure how breaking it is, but he was arrested on corruption charges some time today. There's supposed to be a news conference about the arrest at noon.
- Mark Trapp
"Fitzgerald's office said the 76-page FBI affidavit alleges that Blagojevich was taped conspiring to sell or trade Obama's vacated U.S. Senate seat for financial and other personal benefits for himself and his wife, including an annual salary of $250,000-$300,000 at a nonprofit foundation or an organization affiliated with labor unions." http://www.foxnews.com/politic...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
USAToday is doing regular updates on the breaking story here: http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadl... "Update at 11:40 a.m. ET: Federal agents searched the governor's office in Chicago, according to the Tribune. Update at 11:20 a.m. ET: At noon, you can click on this link to watch a live feed of the news conference that federal prosecutors are scheduled to hold...
more...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
sell??? are you kidding me! that's simply evil... whoa!
- Susan Beebe
If I was this guy's brother, I'd be SO 'i'm telling mom'
- Morgan Haley
"Grant noted that Blagojevich was elected in 2002 after Illinois Gov. George Ryan retired in the face of looming federal corruption charges. Ryan was convicted and sentenced in 2006 to six and a half years in prison."
- RAPatton
In his history book Dave Barry Slept Here, Barry points out that Nixon and Agnew ran on a campaign theme of "Law and Order." Hubris indeed.
- Ontario Emperor