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Wait, Internet Explorer is dead?!?!
MS is trying to rebrand it and hoping nobody notices. It won't be called Internet Explorer when Windows 10 comes out this summer. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
so, in effect, it is NOT dead. - Big Joe Silenced
Also, it will live on the computers of anyone who doesn't upgrade to Windows 10. - John (bird whisperer)
Of course, that's part of why they're trying to give Windows 10 away to most users (even unlicensed ones.) - Jennifer Dittrich
OK, so it's only mostly dead. My understanding is that in addition to not calling it IE in Win 10, they're also not using Trident anymore. - Victor Ganata
The quote I read on The Verge was "It will still be in the pipes of the operating system." - DB, Lil LB's Dad
Ah, I see: Microsoft is killing off the Internet Explorer brand - IE will live on, but only as plumbing for Windows - 2015 Mar 17 - Victor Ganata
LOL, is this a real quote? Or am I missing irony/sarcasm here? "We’ll continue to have Internet Explorer, but we’ll also have a new browser called Project Spartan, which is codenamed Project Spartan." - Victor Ganata
Hah, Microsoft is totally mining Halo, huh? First Cortana, and now Spartan. (OK, I don't actually know if they're referencing the SPARTAN Project from Halo, but it amuses me to believe so.) - Victor Ganata
Here is the deal. They want everyone to move to a new, modern browser. They will ship that with Windows 10. IE will still be available and likely continue to be used by enterprise customers. There are too many applications that rely on IE to just dump it for them. Everyone else, it's a clean start with a new browser which does not have a name yet. - Eric - Final Countdown
They will not be giving out Windows 10 to pirated users of other versions of Windows. That was cleared up today. - Eric - Final Countdown
Yeah we're dealing with IE hell right now at work. Just now moving people to 9. Found out last week that one of our departments needs to be moved to 10 pronto because a vendor they work with will no longer support anything less than 10 starting next month. Then of course there's the whole no support for anything less than 11 starting next January. I have a feeling Microsoft is gonna blink on that one though. Ala the XP support deadline. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
We are trying to get our desktop people to upgrade from 8. And our Java runtime from version 6. - Eric - Final Countdown
The name Internet Explorer doesn't poll well (go figure). - DB, Lil LB's Dad
Don't get me started on Java. Our boss won't let us pull the trigger on upgrading that.We're so far behind it's not even funny. Then if we get hit via an exploit folks will be looking at my team with the side eye saying "WHY HAVEN'T YOU UPGRADED JAVA IN FOREVER?!?!?!" - DB, Lil LB's Dad
We are waiting on our "Oracle developers" to just test the new version. That version 6 is so full of security holes. Might as well throw DVDs of our data on the sidewalk. - Eric - Final Countdown
IE is dead! Long live IE! - Stephan Planken from iPhone
I get to try to figure out how to implement IE11 with Enterprise mode in our environment. That should be fun. We (I mostly) recommended working on transitioning to IE 11 shortly after I started as a contractor last fall. We were told no just focus on getting everybody up to 9. Now 5 months later the sky is falling and we need to start working up a plan to get everybody to 11. I wanted to say "I TOLD YOU WE NEEDED TO DO THIS MONTHS AGO!" but refrained. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
"It just so happens that your friend here is only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive." - Victor Ganata
So... IE is in the witness protection program? - Andrew C (✔)
11 is actually growing on me. It's a good browser. I use both at work. Still mostly just Chrome at home though. Only use IE when something isn't working in Chrome (likely due to an extension blocking it) when I don't feel like troubleshooting. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
IE11 is good. I just received a ticket request some group policy today for compatibility and NTLM that made me get up from my desk and leave for the day it was so wrong. I'm having a moment about IE today too. - Eric - Final Countdown
It's a bit disconcerting when I switch over to IE and get confronted with a zillion ads. I've got all that stuff shutdown in Chrome. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
I use uBlock in Chrome. I went to a newspaper site in IE and it must have taken 30 seconds to load the front page and then popped up a video ad. Seriously, this is why. - Eric - Final Countdown
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In our grim meathook dystopian future after all nation-states have collapsed and multinational corporations rule all, the infrastructure will be maintained entirely by UPS and FedEx (or whichever delivery service wins the Global Delivery Service Nuclear War.)
When the nukes come raining down, the very last vestige of the U.S. federal government will be the USPS. - Victor Ganata
Wasn't Kevin Costner a postman in some post-apocalyptic movie? Maybe WATERWORLD? - Andrew C (✔)
:D Indeed he was. In The Man Who Brings The Mail, or something like that - Pete's Got To Go
… d'oh - Andrew C (✔)
Who knew David Brin had anticipated Amazon Prime in 1985? :D - Victor Ganata
The first thing I thought of was Idiocracy... Dystopian future, corporations rule... - Brian Johns
You mean The Postman, based on David Brin's novel? - walt crawford
"Snow crash", by Neal Stephenson - Mafia owns/runs the pizza delivery industry, executes delivery people if the order isn't delivered in 30 mins or less. :) - Ken Gidley
LOL, I forgot that part. "30 minutes or else!" - Victor Ganata
Andrew C (✔)
It's really great how everyone involved in March Madness gets paid. Coaches, trainers, scouts, universities, the league, merchandisers, …
...broadcasters, local businesses, sports media, all those bracket sites, .... - Stephen Mack
Go capitalism! Go remuneration for services provided! - Andrew C (✔)
Damn, that's a disturbing metaphor. Everyone is making money except the people who are doing the actual work and risking their bodies. #CapitalismFTW - Victor Ganata
We wouldn't want to sully the purity of the sport with something so base as money. At least not for the players. Everyone else is so impure we might as well pay them. - Andrew C (✔)
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"Is this about sockpuppets or genocide?" - John (bird whisperer) #LookingThroughOldPosts (and old comments)
Tangentially: I like how lets you like comments. - Victor Ganata
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Over Two Dozen Test Positive for TB at Kansas High School - MPR
This is way scarier than Ebola - Victor Ganata
Oh, yikes. - Jennifer Dittrich
Hopefully not of the overly-drug-resistant kind. - rønin
"Another round of tests will be offered May 5 for people known to have been exposed to TB during the spring semester. It can take up to eight weeks for TB to give a positive test result, according to health officials." - Steve C, Team Marina
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Electrical stimulation therapy for slow transit constipation in children: a systematic review. - Int J Colorectal Dis. 2015 Mar 15. o_O
"Not pooping yet, huh? Crank up the juice." - Victor Ganata
electrical stimulation of what? - Todd Hoff
There might be other targets - Victor Ganata
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Virginia governor calls for inquiry into student arrest - BBC America
re: University student, Honor Committee member Martese Johnson arrested - The Cavalier Daily - University of Virginia - The Cavalier Daily - University of Virginia - Victor Ganata
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University student, Honor Committee member Martese Johnson arrested - The Cavalier Daily - University of Virginia
A bouncer at the local bar refuses to let Johnson in because of "some discrepancies about his ID." Alcohol and Beverage Control officers then detain him and beat the shit out of him. - Victor Ganata
This is messed up. - DB, Lil LB's Dad
Andrew C (✔)
The real magic of ranch dressing is that whatever you put it on becomes a salad, by definition. #eathealthy
^ Oh dear. - Andrew C (✔)
Mmm, pizza salad! - Amit Patel
Cheeseburger salad? - April Russo (FForever!)
My brother had a roommate who was fond of peanut butter and ranch - Victor Ganata from iPhone
And he didn't execute the roommate on the spot? - Andrew C (✔)
:D - Victor Ganata from iPhone
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Rep. Aaron Schock (R-IL) resigns after new questions about mileage expenses - Politico
Illinois, of course. What a way to go down. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
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On St. Patrick’s Day, Mexico remembers the Irishmen who fought for Mexico against the US - PRI
So there is an Irish-Mexican connection - Victor Ganata from iPhone
I think Louis CK descends from some of those guys. - Brent Schaus from iPhone
Victor Ganata
I know we've had this discussion before. It's not just the whole privacy thing (or lack thereof). Facebook just feels like a different space. A lot of it is obviously because there are a bunch of people over there that aren't over here, but even in the confines of the FF group following a lot of the same people, I can already guarantee…
…that my posting style will be different. I will hold off on posting things there that I wouldn't hesitate to post here. So even though the people will still be (mostly) there and even though FriendFeed will live on in some shape or form, it will still be a real and permanent loss when this site goes 410. - Victor Ganata
Yep. Unless the Italian version takes off... - Jaclyn aka spamgirl from Android
The italian one seems offline. Will it be back? And agree completely Victor. I don't feel comfortable posting the same things I post here on facebook or G+. - Todd Hoff
Big ol' co-sign, Vic - AHnix (Anna Haro)
Me either. The FB just isn't the same. - Yolanda
So I'm Chrome translation really makes handling the Italian easy. - Todd Hoff
Victor I feel the same way. But I keep trying ot remind myself that FF has essential been FB for years. It may have felt friendlier and more protected, but really the FB ecosystem was able to vacuum up whatever ti wanted, right? I'm not sure I;m persuading myself of anything, but that's how I've been trying.... - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
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Is it too late to sign up for I keep getting "Prossimamente su questi schermi..." which Google translates to "Coming soon on these screens" should be able...I'll forward this to senape (the guy who runs the show over there.) - Bren from iPhone
Make sure you go to and not just the bare URL. - Stephen Mack
Stephen Mack
For English to evolve, grammarians must die -
From my post: "Starting today, I resolve to never make another spelling or grammar flame. For informal forums, I may gently encourage others to stop making such corrections as well." - Stephen Mack
Sweet. As I'm a terrible speller. And generally have bad grammer (and yes I'm misspelling that on purpose. grammar just doesn't seem right to me. Let the evolution begin). :) - Dario Gomez
Dario, I don't think I've ever seen you misspell a word prior to that, so you're far from a terrible speller. I agree "grammar" looks weird. There aren't nearly as many words ending in -ar in English as -er. Kelsey Grammer also has a lot to answer for. But I certainly can get behind your proposal that "grammer" should be a valid substitute for "grammar" from now on. For English to evolve we'll also need to get the spell checks on board. - Stephen Mack
I don't think I have the patients for this. - Brian Johns
If by 'evolve' you mean 'dumb down for the un- and miseducated', I'll take an unevolved English any day of the weak. - Akiva
Certainly took me a while to get past that point of view, Akiva. But to take the first example of my post, why do we put up with irregularities? Why make it so hard for new learners and non-native speakers to learn? WHY do you feel the way you feel beyond wanting others to have to go through the hurdles you went through? - Stephen Mack
That's precisely it, though, Stephen. Flattening the learning curve doesn't make it better and it isn't that I want people to have to go through what I went through: this isn't about me; it's about being educated. Taking this to its horrifying conclusion, you might as well champion for the dismissal of complex words. Why use 'extrapolate' instead of 'explain' or 'loathe' instead of... more... - Akiva
If English is so hard to learn, why do I hear many Polish adults speaking better English here in the UK than British children in schools? Simply because the kids aren't being taught well enough and the resources are too few and too late. The problem lies within the education, not the language itself. - Charley M
Akiva, I'm not advocating the removal of words. I'm advocating simpler spelling -- similar to Benjamin Franklin's original proposal, which I'll link in separately. English evolves over time whether you want it to or not ("doughnut" to "donut" in American English, for example). Is someone "less educated" for wanting spelling to be simpler, so that learners can acquire the language faster? I don't want to rob the language of anything except pointless irregularity. - Stephen Mack
I dated a linguistics major once who was pretty adamant about language needing to be allowed to evolve, and was NOT the type to constantly correct others. However, I think that there's a difference between "letting grammarians die" and having them "loosen up" (losen up? lol) a bit. The bigger question, I think, is how organic we let the evolution be. For example, if we let lolcats-speak gain too much inflooense [sic], we've let the reigns go too much. - George S.
Charlotte, English is objectively more irregular than, say, Spanish or Polish, and is therefore harder to learn. Of course non-native speakers learn English successfully all the time. But for those who learned several languages, ask them which was easier to learn. English has notably higher barriers than many languages because of the pervasive irregularities. We could reduce the amount of time by simplifying, that's all I'm saying. - Stephen Mack
Re: "Bad spelling as a signifier for low intelligence is a deeply-ingrained bias in our culture", It's interesting because my dad is an intellectual, but a terrible speller - [anecdotally] it seems has more to do with personality than actual intelligence. He just has other people (i.e. my mom, a grammarian) proof-read anything he sends out there. That said, in this age of... more... - George S.
I have to go with Akiva on this one. English is hard to learn? Practice. When you practice something it gets "easier" not because the nature if the thing changes but that your capacity to do thing has increased. - Josh Haley from iPhone
English seems to have done OK despite the grammarians: It's use continues to embiggen. - Andy Dustman
Personally I like my education/intelligence to shine through. Although, I do type "slang" in conversational posts. - MicahBear78
Let's look at what rational reason there is to NOT reform and and simplify English spelling. If you've spent any time teaching reading to a young child you know how many irregularities there are. It adds complexity and difficulty, so there are costs, but with what benefit? We have: 1. Tradition. "But we've always spelled things this irregularly." Not true, and not rational. Spelling in... more... - Stephen Mack
Perfect case in point: Josh's comment. FF helpfully marks it as coming from the iPhone. His two typos ("if" instead of "of" and the missing "that") are clearly artifacts of that communication device. But did I understand him? Perfectly (even if I disagree). Why get hung up on that? As long as communication was achieved, that's my new standard of acceptance. Josh is correct that practice... more... - Stephen Mack
And Andy, I love love love that comment. - Stephen Mack
Perhaps the reason you understood Josh's comment despite the errors is because of context. If you were reading it centuries later in isolation there would be room for doubt as to what he really meant. - Trish Haley
Trish, true, but let centuries go by and suddenly you're reading Chaucer: "Whan that Aprille, with hise shoures soote / The droghte of March hath perced to the roote" ( What a perfect illustration of how spelling changes over time. ("When April with its showers sweet / has pierced the drought of March to the root") - Stephen Mack
Now we have to take into account accents and pronunciations to decipher that. - Trish Haley
Chaucer wasn't just about spelling differences. Take it down the absolute basics and you have phonics, blending the sounds to make a full pronunciation of that word. If simplifying words is the way forward, then the phonics are changed and in turn, so is the word. - Charley M
Charlotte, I agree -- and think that's a good thing, with many advantages, and no disadvantages beyond "that's the way we've done it for a while now." - Stephen Mack
A friend with a linguistics background who uses it practically in his day-to-day life explained the ebb and flow of language (which is mostly an unplanned phenomenon) like this: Language trends toward simplicity if sufficient comprehension is conserved. It moves toward more complexity when ambiguity interferes too greatly. So my theory is there will always be grammarians and anti-grammarians, it's just that their number and degree of influence will also ebb and flow. - Micah
Sorry but if I have to trust a Ste[ph|v]en on this, I'm going to trust Pinker over Mack. - Akiva
Also, well put, Micah. - Akiva
English is still evolving and the UKians will continue blaming the Yanks for ruining the language even tho they themselves were mutilating it long before we existed. :) - Big Joe Silenced
Sounds like you're asking for intelligent design here. You can't get rid of grammarians if you want evolution to work. They're the only natural predators irregularities have. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Wow, Bruce. That's just... wow. You're comparing people who care about the English language with people who don't believe in evolution because of a belief in a creator deity? That's such a wild comparison that my monitors just degaussed themselves. And they're LCD monitors. Are you going to lump mathematicians in here as well? They're bigger sticklers than grammarians are. - Akiva
Spellings I'm not too bothered about, but grammar is an essential part of the written form. Without it the entire meaning of prose gets screwed up. Still, regardless of this and irrespective of how many rules you put into place, a language will change and evolve along with the people that speak it. Imagine how things will change once we take to the stars. - alphaxion
Akiva, Pinker is a nativist -- very very far from a prescriptivist. He describes the evolutionary models of language in great detail. I cannot recall him writing about spelling reform one way or the other. How is he relevant to this discussion? - Stephen Mack
Wait, I'm proposing unnatural predation on irregularities! Brain hurts, must consider. - Stephen Mack
I don't see spelling as independent of syntax. - Akiva
Fine, Akiva, so let's take a few spelling examples. Suppose I'm elected supreme dictator of the universe, and I issue a decree that says from now on, all the "-ight" words in English that rhyme with "night" (might, right, sight, etc.) are to be spelled "-ite" instead. ADVANTAGES: Consistency, ease of learning, fewer letters to type. DISADVANTAGES: Spell checkers, dictionaries,... more... - Stephen Mack
Akiva, no. I'm being a stickler about English usage myself. The word "evolve" is being misused here. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Bruce, ah, sorry. Totally went right over my head. - Akiva
Bruce, I disagree. The "doughnut" to "donut" change is a perfect example of evolution in action. Look at that Chaucer excerpt earlier. All of the changes follow an evolutionary model -- things get simpler over time, due to survival of the fittest. Even Pinker, evoked earlier, describes the evolutionary model of language change similar to what we're discussing here. - Stephen Mack
Matthew, I read your post but I'm too dense to see the point you're making, sorry. - Stephen Mack
I find it ironic that Akiva misused weak when he meant week. :) - Scoble, Alex Scoble
Stephen, sorry, but this discussion is slowly edging its way off the rails. The hypothetical you invoke is just way too unlikely to even be worth addressing, if you ask me. I might as well say, 'what if as the supreme dictator of the universe, I made red into blue'? - Akiva
@Bruce the collectivised mutations of something (language in this case) that eventually give rise to the formation of a distinct and new entity. The changes to our languages are organic in nature and certainly paralelle that of species in the natural world via many different evolutionary pressures (technology, interbreeding, random mutations as a result of generational change....) - alphaxion
There's no advantage to turning red into blue. There are numerous advantages to simplifying and regularizing spelling. My main point is to get you to consider WHY you want spelling to stay the same illogical way it is now, when it has no advantages beyond preserving (a fairly recent, in the scale of things) tradition. - Stephen Mack
Stephen, evolution creates as many irregularities as it eliminates. Why are there two correct spellings of harassment, for example. English will only get simpler by deliberate planning. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
I do think the prescriptivists are fighting a futile war. But spelling reform is just another form of prescriptivism. I say, tolerate diversity and let natural selection hone orthography. If more people favor nite over night or the single word loose instead of the two words loose/lose, then that's the way the language will go. Nothing you or I can do is going to stop it. - Victor Ganata
Stephen, the point is, you can't regulate either spelling nor grammar. They can and will change over time. - alphaxion
(Gah, three excellent comments within seconds of each other, and I want to respond to all three. Want threaded comments.) - Stephen Mack
Matthew, I'm missing the "too much pretty" reference. - Stephen Mack
(Pounces, claws extended, on the either/nor pairing in alphaxion's comment.). :-) - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Let me be clear: The dictator example is a hypothetical, and I'm not actually advocating we force wholesale spelling reform down anyone's throat. Instead, I'm asking people to examine their biases and beliefs. Previously I was a spelling snob. I made spelling flames. Despite believing in the abstract that I was a descriptionist, I was actually behaving as a prescriptivist. However, in... more... - Stephen Mack
For English spelling reform, we may have to look to other languages to lead the way. Filipino, the official language of the Philippines (which is really just a standardized dialect of Tagalog) basically incorporates tons of English words, but has changed the orthography to match the conventions of written Filipino, which is close to being completely phonetic. I understand Japanese kind... more... - Victor Ganata
Matthew, the Chaucer excerpt refutes the backwards-compatibility notion. I find Esperanto ridiculous, because it was mandated, not evolved. Almost no one wants to learn a whole new language just because they find English too complex or irregular. I agree with the rest of your comment. You illustrate the point I'm making perfectly. Before, I was acting as an agent resisting language... more... - Stephen Mack
My point, though, is that there have never been any brakes, and anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. - Victor Ganata
It shows that language changes and doesn't have to be backwards-compatible. - Stephen Mack
Matthew, true. I just think it'll be more dramatic when we start borrowing back from languages that are completely outside the Indo-European family of languages. - Victor Ganata
Victor: English borrowing words from other languages is a fait accompli. - Andy Dustman
Victor: Suppose someone says to you, "Good nite!" and you say back to them, "You miseducated nincompoop, don't say 'nite,' it's spelled 'night.'" You are acting as a "brake" as you say. Right? - Stephen Mack
Matthew, yes, that's what I mean -- apologies for use of metonymy as a grammatical shortcut. (And thank you for the literalist Panda joke.) - Stephen Mack
Matthew, that's one usage crusade you'll have to give up on. Information wants to be anthropomorphized. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Well played, Bruce. - Stephen Mack
On a more serious note, I think Stephen is making a good move by loosening up on spelling as his son starts to read and write. That fits the methodology I've seen work really well in Montessori schools. - Bruce Lewis from fftogo
Twitter's ability to influence language is probably substantial. - Stephen Mack
Stephen, yeah, I see your point. On the other hand, such a response might actually act as a accelerator, if the person I said it to thought I was someone not worth listening to. - Victor Ganata
Andy, true. I was specifically thinking of English borrowing words back from languages that had originally borrowed from English, which, yeah, we've already been doing. - Victor Ganata
Kids are good at unlearning. Empower them first. Tighten up spelling later. - Bruce Lewis
If I started 'loosening up on spelling', I'd never get a job because I'm a writer and am expected to produce literate and correct copy. - Charley M
Bruce L., you're exactly right, and it's very interesting to me that proper spelling is now hardly emphasized at all in the early grades. - Stephen Mack
Charlotte, I'm not suggesting all literate and correct copy be discarded wholesale. As I mention in the blog post, business communications are one venue where we place a huge emphasis on proper spelling and grammar, and that's not going to change for generations if at all. Really I'm trying to explain why for informal discussions (such as the ones here on FF) I'm interested in personally being less of a stickler. - Stephen Mack
Clearly spelling bees are corruptors of teh youth. Won't someone please think of the children? - Andy Dustman
Andy, did you see Spellbound? Freaky how much work is involved, for obscure words that most people have never heard of. I am all for intellectual competition, but the value of the top level of competition like that really escapes me. It seems to turn the kids into stress cases. - Stephen Mack
Stephen, I have not, but spelling bees are the intellectual equivalent of beauty contests. Memorization != rational thinking - Andy Dustman
Ah, good, then your previous comment was sarcastic. (I approve.) - Stephen Mack
Enjoy your weekend, Matthew! Don't worry, the zombie of this premise will dig its way out of the coffin over time. - Stephen Mack
Yes, there's a greasy red spot where the dead horse used to be. - Andy Dustman
Is there? I missed it. Better keep on kicking to be sure. - Stephen Mack
:) I certainly don't want anyone to accuse me of wanting English to evolve solely because I don't know how to speak it. And FFers are an unusually literate bunch. - Stephen Mack
A few years ago there was a news story that tracked the rate of decrease for irregular verbs. They predicted that in another 100 years only the most important irregular verbs will be around. That is kind of strange to predict where the language will go. - Rich Thomas
Slippy, I just dislike the people who hold on to the set or rules they learned like it is set in stone. - Rich Thomas
I tried to resist, but here's an example of current day comment prose to dissect: <----- endless linguistics theories will swirl around the reason for the strategic placement of the single comma, the only punctuation whatsoever therein (if you don't count ALL CAPS as punctuation). - Micah
Six-year bump. One of my favorite conversations on FF (a little off now with some of the deleted accounts, such as Matthew DeVries and Slippy), even though I didn't get much agreement for my point of view here. - Stephen Mack
Victor Ganata
Hah! Ensign Hoshi Sato and Keiko O'Brien were in the same "Castle" episode. #ST #DS9 #Enterprise
Castle S7E17 "Hong Kong Hustle" 2015 Mar 16 - Victor Ganata
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Eight weeks to a better brain - Harvard Gazette - 2011 Jan 21
"Participating in an eight-week mindfulness meditation program appears to make measurable changes in brain regions associated with memory, sense of self, empathy, and stress. In a study that will appear in the Jan. 30 issue of Psychiatry Research: Neuroimaging, a team led by Harvard-affiliated researchers at Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) reported the results of their study, the first to document meditation-produced changes over time in the brain’s gray matter." - Victor Ganata
*pen drop* - That's So CAJ!
Curiously, there's at least onomatopoeic agreement. - Micah
They've got a point but at the same time...why bother having grammar books, dictionaries or any other rules/guides to language if all you have to do is just blast your mistake to as many people as possible to make it the new majority? Does "would of" really make any sense? Instead of a helping verb "would" is now a helping preposition? - Spidra Webster
I will fight most forms of improper grammar. I'm not perfect and I get lazy or take short cuts that make sense to me, but improper grammar can lead to confusion. - Heather
To me the point is it's okay to acknowledge the two forces that forge language: replication and mutation. Like life itself. Here's an even-handed post that gets the lay of the land on normative language discussions: . Another post with some good tidbits: - Micah
The main issue I have with prescriptivism is the way it's used to repress people who aren't as privileged. There are generally understandable reasons why people end up using non-standard language, and it's rarely because they're essentially idiots. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
The flip side of descriptivism is that, yes, there is such a thing as standard language and formal register. It's really just the idea that using them is somehow a proof of intelligence and/or high moral character that I find distasteful. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
I'm generally a descriptivist, but … oxford comma ftw! - Amit Patel
Morton Fox
I keep misreading Master Chief as Master Chef, thinking it’s a game about cooking. #broken
Gordon Ramsay starring in Halo! :D - Victor Ganata
"You know why they aren't fucking eating your fucking oysters rockefeller? Because the other fucking team shot it with a bloody M7057 Defoliant Projector, didn't they?" - Stephen Mack
Victor Ganata
Study links Disneyland measles outbreak to low vaccination rates - L.A. Times #CaptainObvious
…and not because of the undocumented like some racist assholes would have us believe. - Victor Ganata
"In order to establish herd immunity, between 96% and 99% of the population must be vaccinated, experts say." - Victor Ganata
Huh. Maybe it's because I don't watch TV "news," but I never heard that "undocumented" stuff around here--mostly rich idiots in Marin County and others listening to semi-stars and (some) chiropractors. - walt crawford
Yes down here near Disney we haven't had any blame on undocumented (thank goodness) it's all been pointed back to wealthy neighborhoods where it dies on the vine as money makes the rules here as much as anywhere. - Steve C, Team Marina
Walt and Steve, it's probably because you've had the good sense not to expand comments on Facebook posts. - Victor Ganata
Ugh ergh well, yes, that too. There are a lot of idiots (I was going to say "racist idiots" but there are lots more besides) on FB. - walt crawford
Andrew C (✔)
Celebrity Chef’s ‘Paleo for Babies’ Book On Hold Over Infant-Death Fears | TIME -
Celebrity Chef’s ‘Paleo for Babies’ Book On Hold Over Infant-Death Fears | TIME
"Bubba Yum Yum: The Paleo Way features a DIY baby-milk formula made from chicken liver and bone broth, reports the Australian Women’s Weekly. Health experts have slammed the formula, which contains no milk products, saying it could seriously harm a child’s development. “In my view, there’s a very real possibility that a baby may die if this book goes ahead,” said Heather Yeatman, president of the Public Health Association of Australia." - Andrew C (✔) from Bookmarklet
I'm fairly confident that in the pre-agricultural era, humans breastfed. They weren't creating infant formulas from chicken liver and bone broths. - Victor Ganata
I'm confused, wouldn't the most Paleo thing be breast-milk? (What Victor said.) - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Paleo is almost whatever you want to be. I had a "paleo" meal once that had a giant pile of fries. - Andrew C (✔) from Android
He is a fuckstain. - Johnny from iPhone
Victor Ganata
It's definitely not pretty, and I have no idea if it will work with anyone else's feed, but I think this kludgy script I wrote might actually succeed in downloading my entire feed to my hard drive.
Or end up in an infinite loop somewhere and take up all the free space. - Victor Ganata
Now that my backup is running, I am suddenly reluctant to create new posts :D - Victor Ganata
*fingers crossed that it works. - bentley
The script has gotten to late 2011, which about 20,000 posts in…. Still four years worth of posts to go! #halfwaythere - Victor Ganata
Does your script expand all comments and all long comments? - Andrew C (✔)
Nope, it's pretty crude. I'm just downloading the raw HTML, really. - Victor Ganata
Although on the individual posts, they're already expanded, right? - Victor Ganata
Does Claudio's script go all the way back now? I might try that as well. One can never have too many backups, right? - Victor Ganata
on individual posts, all comment threads are expanded, but exceptionally long individual comments are still folded up, I think. Not sure if that's just presentation or if they're actually not downloaded until you click to expand. - Andrew C (✔)
I've gotten to early 2009, which is about 28,000 posts in :) #almostthere - Victor Ganata
Late 2008, just past 30,000 posts. I think I'm going to suspend the script though and resume when I get home…. - Victor Ganata
Hah, Google Reader posts :D - Victor Ganata
So it has taken more than 2 hours to get to about 32,000 posts and it's still going. Welp, CTRL-Z for now…. - Victor Ganata
Resumed. Still going! - Victor Ganata
I've realized I didn't really get comments or likes on my feed until early 2009. - Victor Ganata
D'oh, just realized that Friendfeed saved pics to instead of early on. I guess I shouldn't have hard coded URLs…. - Victor Ganata
LOL, my loop stopped short one page. Needs more debugging. - Victor Ganata
So three hours to pull 32,490 posts (give or take) - Victor Ganata
Heh, this is the very first page of my feed: - Victor Ganata
My first post with a real time stamp is July 11, 2007 - Victor Ganata
I think I might succeed in downloading all the posts I commented on, too. Let's see how many hours this is going to take. - Victor Ganata
*fingers still crossed* - bentley
Looks like it finished. I will probably make another pass and download all the css stylesheets, but downloading people's background images might be too much :D - Victor Ganata
I'm amazed you made posts as far back as December 31, 1969. :-P - John (bird whisperer)
Yay! You got the comments and likes, too? - bentley
I dunno if I'll do the likes, but we still have time :D - Victor Ganata
Anne Bouey
6.0 Earthquake centered a few miles away did some damage here.
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I was like "HOLY HELL!!!1!1!" until I realised the portrait photos are landscape here :) - Johnny from iPhone
Whoa. Everybody okay? - Lisa L. Seifert from iPhone
Hope y'all are ok. - Kirsten from Android
Everyone is fine. Despite what the photos show, the house didn't flip over! Pics just showed up sideways. :) - Anne Bouey from iPhone
When I saw the epicenter, I wondered if you guys were unscathed. Glad to hear. - Anika
Power is out so we'll see if there's damage to the house in daylight. - Anne Bouey from iPhone
that poor pineapple ;) (glad everyone is ok) - ellbeecee from Android
Glad you're okay. - MoTO Boychick Devil
Glad everyone is okay. Stay safe! - Kristin from iPhone
I didn't think it was that big! It woke us up, but I was thinking it was in the 4.x range. I'm glad you are okay and hope that, in the daylight, the damage isn't worse. - vicster.
Glad you're OK. - Eric Logan
I'm glad you guys are okay. - OCoG of FF, Jimminy
Glad you're all ok! - Mary Carmen from iPhone
But how is the beautiful deck??? Oh and the kitty? :) - Steve C, Team Marina
Very glad you guys are okay. You were the first person I thought of when I heard where it was. *hugs* - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
Yeesh. Felt it here in Sac so I knew it had to be a big one. Glad you're okay, Anne. - Corinne L
Just saw the news and raced to check in. I'm glad you're okay! - joey
Glad you're ok! I now understand why the previous owners of my house had baby proofing on lower AND upper cabinets. Wondering if I should put them back on... - The Other Yvonne from FFHound!
^ Good idea - Stephan Planken from iPhone
((((Anne)))) - VALZONE#SCREWED
Earthquake putty for display items. Can't recommend it enough <3 - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Glad you're OK. "hugs" - #cryptic from FFHound(roid)!
(((( )))) ... hope you are doing OK!! - Sepi ⌘ سپی
Glad to hear you're OK! - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Scary. I felt it all the way down here in Watsonville. - Rodfather from Android
glad you all are ok! - holly #ravingfangirl
Happy to hear that no one was hurt! - Jenny H. from Android The FriendFeed team : Don Not Shut Down the FriendFeed! - ‌‌ ‌‌گرگان نت ‌‌‌ (✓)
Apart from that person spamming your feed, that petition has hardly any signups, only 156 but they need 100,000! I doubt its success - Halil
AHnix (Anna Haro)
Read a few older posts/threads earlier today, and I fell out laughing again. :D When I have my 'moment before death' montage, I wonder how many shots will be me LOLing in front of a computer screen. Thank you, ff!
An old thread I've referred back to for a hearty laugh time and again was one where Victor Ganata had posted about people coming in complaining of pains the day after Thanksgiving and it was all due to overeating. And then FF took over. And it just got awesomely ridiculous. :D - Hookuh Tinypants
^hahaha! I remember that one. In fact, I put my stink on it too, but I deleted my old account (>_<). I think I asked Victor if a good solution to an upset stomach was to eat MORE food because the new food would then push out the old food that's making my belly ache. #Science - AHnix (Anna Haro)
Yup! That's pretty much what you said. :D - Hookuh Tinypants
ahahah. - Micah
Hi Anna Haro! - Josh Haley
Hiya Josh! I'll never forget when you posted And said something like 'replace the water with diet pepsi, and that's me' :D - AHnix (Anna Haro)
Truth! - Josh Haley
Although it would be Diet Coke. Natch. - Josh Haley
yes! Thanks, Vic. @Josh, My bad! I forgot you HATE diet pepsi. Now I do remember posting, 'diet pepsi taste like ass' And then you said you wanted to give me a hug. LOL :D - AHnix (Anna Haro)
NOW you're talking. When the waiter asks if Diet Pepsi is OK, I give him a look up and down and explain exactly why it is not! - Josh Haley
Andrew C (✔)
The logical endpoint of the travel neck pillow would be a mummifying sleeping bag/pillow that one would be placed in after being sedated.
This is how I imagine what interplanetary space travel is going to be like. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Andrew C (✔)
Funny to think in the future that all books, film, music, art, etc, will be reclassified as "pre-apocalyptic".
If civilization gets rebuilt, academics will argue endless about what qualifies as apocalyptic vs. postapocalyptic - Victor Ganata from iPhone
proto-apocalyptic - Meg VMeg
Pre- vs proto- will be decided by what, in retrospect, contained the seeds of our destruction and what did not. - Andrew C (✔) from Android
Scott. Cat Herder.
So since this place is going into obscurity shortly, as good a place to share as any. It's amazing the impact that, even if briefly, people have on your life. An old friend and coworker took his life yesterday and it's been much harder than even I would have thought. He was one of the most quirky, brilliant people I ever had the chance to know.
I'm so sorry, Scott. *hugs* - Anne Bouey
My condolences, Scott. - imabonehead
Oh I'm so sorry. - Carmen
Oh, Scott. I'm sorry. *gentle hand squeeze* Condolences to those who knew and loved him. - AHnix (Anna Haro)
I'm so sorry, Scott. :( - Laura
*hugs* - Kirsten
I'm so sorry. **hugs** - Jennifer Dittrich
I am so sorry. Sending good thoughts to you and his family & friends. - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
Jeez. Sorry for your loss. - Joe
oh, i'm so sorry, scott. :( - holly #ravingfangirl
I'm so sorry, Scott. - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
I'm so sorry to hear, Scott. *hugs* - Stephen Mack
My condolences. - MoTO Boychick Devil
I'm sorry, Scott. :( - Kristin
Oh man. I'm so sorry. - Yolanda
I'm sorry. - Eric - Final Countdown
I'm sorry Scott. *hugs* - Hedgehog
Thanks all, just needed to get if off my chest. - Scott. Cat Herder.
I'm so very sorry. More *hugs* - Galadriel C. from Android
I'm sorry to hear this, Scott. - Corinne L
My condolences, Scott - CarlC
I'm sorry, Scott. My condolences. - Victor Ganata
I'm sorry, Scott. - bentley
I'm so sorry, Scott. - Katy S
Our condolences Scott. {Scott} - Pete's Got To Go
I'm so sorry for your loss. :( - LB needs a vacation from Android
I'm so sorry, Scott. For you and your friend's loved ones. It's just an awful, horrible thing, and so terribly sad. *hugs* - vicster.
I'm so sorry, Scott. *hugs* - Alix May
Victor Ganata
All my FriendFeed posts (including images) take up 397.5 MB
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This is your life. - Josh Haley
Well, at least seven years of it. :) - Victor Ganata from iPhone
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Victor Ganata
I wouldn't feel bad about being at work today if I were actually saving lives or something. If I hear one more person complain about having a stomach ache after stuffing themselves yesterday, I will scream.
Epic. People amaze me daily with new levels of stupidity.... - Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
*gets back in car and leaves ER* - Ha3rvey (on hiatus)
Oops, sorry I dissuaded you from coming in for your inferior wall MI. My bad! :D - Victor Ganata
But the gas....*explodes* - Anika
*stops for tacos on the way home* - Ha3rvey (on hiatus)
Turkey tacos.....*drools* - Anika
The problem is all I'm going to tell you is that you have gas. There's really nothing you can do but wait for it to come out one end or the other. :) - Victor Ganata
When you do end up having to go to the ER, please don't mention my name. :) - Victor Ganata
Doctor's orders, Anna. Do it! - Anika
I wish I could double-like this thread. - Andrew C (✔)
I can see it now. "So she had a stomach ache after Thanksgiving, and her doctor told her to eat more, and now her esophagus just exploded." - Victor Ganata
"Mr. Simmons, you see this light-colored area on your angiogram? That's cheese." - Ha3rvey (on hiatus)
"During the previous week, van Wassenaer had suffered a particularly vexing bout of his usual stomach trouble. After three days of near fasting, though, he had felt well enough to treat himself to a sumptuous lunch. He tucked into veal soup and cabbage boiled with mutton, then devoured calf sweetbreads, spinach, a generous helping of duck, two larks, apple compote, and bread, all washed... more... - Victor Ganata
I am laughing so hard, I'm almost crying. How in the hell did I miss this thread? I IZ SLACKING - Hookuh Tinypants
Almost a year later and I still love this thread. (sorry, just found this link in my Delicious) - Hookuh Tinypants
(The Harvard link's no good now, but I found the text in Internet Archive: ) - bentley
Andrew C (✔)
Remember when desktop computers were horizontal, not "tower" layout? Also, remember when desktop computers?
Hey I still desktop computers: - joey from iPhone
I remember when you could choose which configuration you wanted - horizontal or tower. - Spidra Webster
My iMac may not be replaced when it dies. - Gunneh-MoTo Calls me that
Yup. Mine had a 5.25" floppy drive. - chrisofspades
I still desktop too. - Andrew C (✔)
Is a desktop computer still a desktop computer if the computer part is under the desk? - John (bird whisperer)
Yup, still desktop. Or under-the-desktop. I think my last horizontal desktop was a Mac IIsi in college. Been all towers afterwards. - rønin
i still desktop...and tablet and mini-tablet and faptop. - Big Joe Silenced
Ok, technically mine is under the desktop too. - Andrew C (✔)
And a 25/33 MHz switch! - Brian Johns
8 and 16 bit ISA slots ONLY. - Big Joe Silenced
My desktop computers keep getting bigger. The case alone on the current one is 27lb. - Amit Patel
No small form factor for you, huh? I'm trying to keep mine to mid-towers. - Andrew C (✔)
I still have a horizontal small form factor P4 Prescott desktop, running XP. This one: It's my backup emergency PC, just in case everything else dies. It has all the vital apps installed on it, to get me by till I can replace whatever died to cause me to have to use it. I also have a P4 Prescott in a full... more... - April Russo (FForever!)
Turbo Mode - Victor Ganata
Victor Ganata
For those who are into data hoarding, what are people using to archive whatever Friendfeed posts are still accessible?
I've seen more mentions of this: - rønin
Although the non-US crowd has been bandying this about as well: - rønin
I'm systematically copying and pasting all my posts into a word document and deleting as I go. Not the popular route, but the one of my choosing. - Jenny H. from Android
Copy, paste, delete, drink, repeat... :-) - Todd Hoff
ALL. DAY. LONG. I finished one account, but I'm only mid-2011 on the other. Super tedious, but worth it to me. - Jenny H. from Android
Ack! No, no deleting! How am I supposed to find my comments that I want to download if you're deleting them all? (she asked, selfishly and ack-fully) - bentley
I know and I feel bad about that, but I've tried with the scripts before, they didn't work, and I'm not risking losing the documentation of my life since 2008. Selfish, perhaps, but I'm out of time and options. - Jenny H. from Android
Copy/paste I understand, but why delete? - bentley
Because you can only go back 640 posts and I have many thousands of them. - Jenny H. from Android
I think Benjamin Golub pushed a change so that you can go back farther than 640 posts now. So far I've gotten to 1140 posts. - Victor Ganata
I guess I'll try re-running the script, but I assumed that message was that going back would be more robust but not that they raised the cap on how far back you could go. - Andrew C (✔)
If you manually type in$USERNAME?start=1350, it won't work and it'll just give you that same page as$USERNAME?start=660, but there's now an additional ncursor=$LONG_HEXADECIMAL_STRING field that I have no idea how to parse that allows you to go back way farther - Victor Ganata
OIC. Yeah, so a robust script would have to manually grab and parse the "older" link rather than just calculate it. - Andrew C (✔)
I can't get past start=630 and I KNOW I have posts beyond January of this year. :( - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Yeah you need the ncursor=xxx key too. - Victor Ganata
Ben's change definitely let's you go beyond start=2010 now. But as Victor mentioned, it only works with the corresponding ncursor. Seems like the only way to get that is to physically click to each page. - chrisofspades
I guess I'll just have to save the raw HTML - Victor Ganata
Could someone who knows Ben ask if the ncursor thing could be used in the FF API? - Andrew C (✔)
And if server load is an issue, which it might be, Twitter's export runs on the server. You make a request, it churns away for a bit, and then when it's done it emails you (I think?) with a link for an archive you can download. - Andrew C (✔) goes beyond 640 posts boundary (scroll to the end of for instructions in English). - courant
Trying the Ruby version now, courant. Thanks for sharing! - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
The scripts I've run do seem to get past the 640 post limit, but they end up going in infinite loops after the 10,000th post. - Victor Ganata
Victor, the Ruby version got as far back as 2013 (with only one month from 2012). That's a lot because, as we all know, I post A LOT. - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
Right, so, does anyone know anyone at FF/FB to ask to adjust the API to go past 10K posts? - Andrew C (✔)
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