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Victor Ganata
Besides Michael Brown, Whom Else Does The New York Times Call “No Angel”? - Vanity Fair http://www.vanityfair.com/online...
"A sample of the white folks the Times has called 'no angel' includes infamous mobsters, murderers, a pornographer, and a Nazi. Black Americans described similarly by the paper include a basketball player, a singer, criminal suspects, and unarmed men killed by white people." - Victor Ganata
Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
A scientific study proving a wine bottle with an expensive label tastes better: http://www.pnas.org/content... #design #aeachi via @helveticagirl
A scientific study proving a wine bottle with an expensive label tastes better: http://www.pnas.org/content/105/3/1050.abstract #design #aeachi via @helveticagirl
Good to see "proof," but has there ever been much doubt? (Not just wine; this holds true for most everything: If we think it must be better, it *is* better...to us.) - Walt Crawford
Too bad having proof won't change the way consumers think. :-/ - Hookuh Tinypants
Holds true for beer, too. If a beer has a good rating from various sources, then I might lean that way when I try to evaluate it myself. - Joe
The presentation was on design and how despite some thinking it isn't important or undervalued, it actually affects the bottom line. She also talked about this paper: http://friendfeed.com/zoblue... - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
Here's the thing: the study didn't (can't) prove that there are no differences among products--wine, beer, whatever. It did show that we can be persuaded to taste differences that may not be there: Quite a different thing. - Walt Crawford
Walt, agreed. Someone who has a palate for wine will be able to tell the differences between wines, and those that enjoy wine are quite aware of the overpriced nature of many brands. A casual drinker would do better to keep it simple for the palate and wallet. - Eric
It's not about the wine. It's about the physical chemical changes that occur in the brain when imbibing what the subject perceives to be a superior product by being told it's more expensive, has better labeling, etc. - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
Yeah, basically dopamine and ethanol have synergistic effects :) - Victor Ganata
Yup, essentially even those who think they have some kind of palate for wine can be duped into thinking they can discern high quality wine from low quality. We've tested this repeatedly in my tasting group over the years and the results are always the same (which pleases me greatly because it's a nice slap to the ego for the couple of super pretentious twats in the group). - Hookuh Tinypants
Zulema: I understand that. I also know from experience that some will use the study (and those like it) to say "See? All wines taste the same!" (I've had one beer-lover make essentially that statement.) - Walt Crawford
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Libertarianism Is Very Strange - Boston Review http://www.bostonreview.net/made-am...
"The Western, especially American, view of autonomous selves is anomalous." - Victor Ganata
"Collective life did not arise from individual life; on the contrary, it is the latter that emerged from the former.” — Emile Durkheim - Victor Ganata
"There are no such things as natural rights—no such things as rights anterior to the establishment of government…. The origination of governments from a contract is a pure fiction…. It never has been known to be true in any instance…. All governments that we have any account of have been gradually established by habit, after having formed by force." — Jeremy Bentham - Victor Ganata
"Not paying taxes was Thoreau’s way of remaining unstained by connection to slavery, yet it took big government to end slavery." - Victor Ganata
"Americans’ life expectancy, health, physical security, and living standards soared in the 20th century—not, however, because of the march of libertarianism, as Domenech insinuates, but in great measure because of the welfare state and of regulation of food, medicine, water, work safety, pollution, and so on." - Victor Ganata
""Personal liberty itself has also improved in the last century, with civil rights for minorities and women and broader guarantees of civil liberties. These advances, too, largely developed not against government but with it." - Victor Ganata
"Both historical and contemporary research suggests that Thoreau was wrong; the government that governs least does not govern best, whether the criterion is promoting the general welfare or promoting individual liberty. This does not mean that the converse is true, that maximal government is best." - Victor Ganata
Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
"Look, it’s simple. Build your apps so they aren’t a twirling shitshow of clown horns when JavaScript breaks."-David Sleight #aeachi #webdev
I bet there's a subsegment of the population that would totally be into twirling shitshows of clown horns…. - Victor Ganata
Yeah, I don't doubt it. People are weird. :) - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
Wait did someone mention a twirling shitshow of clown horns??? - Steve C
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Effect of virtual reality on upper extremity function in children with cerebral palsy: a meta-analysis - Pediatr Phys Ther - 2014 Fall http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed...
"The future is here. It's just not evenly distributed." - Victor Ganata
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I really don’t know how this is growing. It’s just dirt, rocks, and concrete here. I wonder where it’s getting its water from. - http://x0.tumblr.com/post...
I really don’t know how this is growing. It’s just dirt, rocks, and concrete here. I wonder where it’s getting its water from.
Rocks create condensation. Maybe that's enough? - Todd Hoff
I suspect it might actually be leeching moisture out of my neighbor's yard :D - Victor Ganata
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I guess every Star Trek series had an episode set in the Wild West.
Some people call me the space cowboy.... - Katy S
Even Voyager and DS9? - Halil
I guess Voyager didn't have one, but DS9 was pretty much has a Wild West frontier vibe - Victor Ganata from iPhone
I'd say more Checkpoint Charlie / post-conflict zone , but yeah - Pete
Until I started watching Western TV shows, I never really appreciated how much the Wild West *was* a post-conflict zone. (Although I suppose the analogies from "Firefly" and "Serenity" made it even more explicit.) - Victor Ganata
Steven Perez
…the thing is he [Obama] posed as a progressive and turned out to be counterfeit. We ended up with a Wall Street presidency, a drone presidency, a national security presidency. The torturers go free. The Wall Street executives go free. The war crimes in the Middle East, especially now in Gaza, the war criminals go free. And yet, you know, he acted... - http://silas216.tumblr.com/post...
While there are undoubtedly many disappointing things about the Obama administration, I always knew he was a conventional neoliberal beholden to moneyed interests with a thin veneer of populism and social liberalism, because that's what the Democratic Party is and has been for at least as long as I've been alive. Since we really only have two choices, it's the less bad one. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
People who are surprised that Obama is a neoliberal are like people who are surprised the PATRIOT Act seriously compromised our civil rights. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
I'm not surprised, with a couple of exceptions - Guantanamo being the biggest for me. It's one of the things he specifically ran on, and reneged on. In most ways, his policy has been more or less what I expected. I don't know too many people who are genuinely surprised, just disappointed. - Jennifer Dittrich
The thing is, does he even have the authority to shut down Gitmo unilaterally? I mean, it is one of my greatest disappointments about his administration, but I don't know how it could've gone any other way. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
From what I understand, mostly - a huge amount of that is built on executive orders anyway. They were on track to have actual trials, when the localities (mostly NY) balked at the security measures needed. - Jennifer Dittrich
Obama may have presented himself as somewhat more progressive on foreign policy matters than he has been, but it was always clear that he intended to continue the war in Afghanistan and that he would maintain the Democrats' commitment to neoliberalism. - John (bird whisperer)
Chris Topher
There should REALLY be some sort of ratio requirement of healers to DPS for all the battlegrounds. A 10 man group with 1 healer versus a group with 3 is ridiculous...
Yeah, it would be great if they actually did some balancing, but I guess there aren't enough PvPers to keep wait times from being absurd. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
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Talking about Darmok again made me think about eponymic verbs, e.g., bowlderize, galvanize, macadamize, boycott….
Pasteurize, mesmerize, lynch - Victor Ganata
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Guillotine - Victor Ganata
Right, but the dictionary includes non-allusion definitions for all of those. - Andrew C (✔)
But that's because you have access to an English dictionary. You can't decompose their morphemes to figure out what they mean. - Victor Ganata
What, like you could with "when", "the", "walls", or "fell"???? - Andrew C (✔)
Well, the way you can parse -ize to mean verbification of a noun. - Victor Ganata
It kind of cracks me up that the OED definition of the verb "to guillotine" is "Execute (someone) by guillotine." http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us... - Victor Ganata
And the wiktionary definition of "to martinize" is "To clean using the Martinizing dry-cleaning process." http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki... - Victor Ganata
I mean, there's always a fine line between canon and fanon, though, when it comes to Trek. Across all the series and movies, given the number of writers, there's really no way to be consistent without fanon glue. - Victor Ganata
Clearly the ST writers were bothered enough by the preposterousness of the Babel Fish-like qualities of the UT (I realize that the UT existed before the Babel Fish, but that's basically what it is, and Douglas Adams points out how ridiculous the mechanism is) that they totally retconned it in Enterprise. - Victor Ganata
Presumably, the only reason they could even algorithimize the learning of other humanoid species is (1) we had access to Vulcan archives and they are capable of using telepathy to read other humanoid species minds and (2) we have a shared genetic origin with all humanoid species in the Alpha Quadrant through the Ancients, which suggests (although panspermia is still kind of preposterous) that we have common neurological pathways. - Victor Ganata
This makes it more reasonable to assume there really are common factors between species that a massive supercomputer could model and then use to algorithmically decompose the morphemes of languages. - Victor Ganata
Of course, this kind of falls apart considering that the UT didn't have major problems translating the languages of Delta Quadrant species, but it's always possible that the Ancients also visited the Delta Quadrant. - Victor Ganata
" there's always a fine line between canon and fanon, though, when it comes to Trek." -- I've known about Memory-Alpha for some time, but today I found the Memory-Beta wiki, devoted to non-canon Trek. - Andrew C (✔)
But the reason I bring up eponymic verbs is because there is no bootstrapping problem. You don't need to know anything about who the eponym was named for or why their name got turned into an ordinary word in order to know what they mean. - Victor Ganata
Because we don't speak solely in allusions! The Tamarian language purportedly ONLY has an allusive level, there's no foundation underneath. - Andrew C (✔)
Except when there are, for words like "walls" and "fell"!!!!! - Andrew C (✔)
I can even imagine how a hypothetical UT algorithm would fail. Maybe whoever originally inputted the rudimentary translation matrix flagged Darmok and Tanagra as proper names, so the UT doesn't even bother properly chunking the idiom and renders it almost literally. - Victor Ganata
Except we do mostly speak in allusion. Like, that's the whole idea with a dictionary. Words are defined by other words, which are defined by other words, which are defined by other words, ad infinitum. There's no way to parse an unknown language without knowing some words in the language. And if all you know are concrete nouns and propositions and some proper names, that's probably not sufficient to build a translation matrix. - Victor Ganata
How a language has a word for "walls" and "fell" (and "fall" is a verb!) but not "defeat" is garbage, IMO. - Andrew C (✔)
"Walls" and "fell" are pretty concrete. "Defeat" is less so. And the word for "defeat" is exactly "Shaka-when-the-walls-fell" but for whatever reason, the UT is decomposing the morphemes inappropriately. - Victor Ganata
It would be like translating "defeat" not as a single chunk but as "de-" and "feat", except more so. - Victor Ganata
Also "crossed", "unfurled", "uncovered", "left"... Meanwhile, "[that guy], his arms wide" means "give"... - Andrew C (✔)
AT BEST the UT was absurdly plot-driven in its selective failure WRT the Tamarian language. - Andrew C (✔)
Yeah, but that sort of thing happens all the time. Oh, now the UT doesn't work. Oh, now the warp drive doesn't work. Oh, now the transporter doesn't work. Like, Trek writers often use that gimmick of disabling some magical 23rd or 24th century device to make things a little more interesting, as ridiculous as the loss of function might be. - Victor Ganata
Oh, we can't travel to the past anymore by circling around the Earth at superliminal speeds. - Victor Ganata
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TV Producer In Beverly Hills For Pre-Emmys Event Arrested For Being Tall, Bald And Black - LAist http://laist.com/2014...
That first comment is so Poe's Law. - Victor Ganata
I did love some of the responses, though. "But sorry about your car being profiled, bro. I bet that really impacted your sense of self and your place in society." - Jennifer Dittrich
Andrew C (✔)
I can't ever fully respect someone who can excuse or get past the logical problems with the "Darmok" episode of TNG.
Like what? - Steven Perez from Android
The bootstrapping problem. Unless the Tamarians are /born/ knowing what the hell "Jalad and Darmok at Tenagra" means, etc, someone had to tell their young the stories in non-allusional ways. - Andrew C (✔)
C'mon, there are worse logical problems in other TNG episodes than in Darmok. It's not even the most preposterous thing. - Victor Ganata
There are few that fans have largely agreed to ignore though, IMO. - Andrew C (✔)
And anything that hinges on the preposterous nature of the UT is necessarily going to be preposterous. - Victor Ganata
Sure, there's the holodeck, the replicator, the transporter, the warp drive, the UT, Q, the Borg, Riker sitting down on chairs, Wesley Crusher, the time aliens pod-personned Starfleet Command and it all wrapped up in one episode, etc, but generally I feel like fandom excuses those rather than ignores them. - Andrew C (✔)
I dunno. If you ignore the preposterous nature of the UT, Darmok doesn't seem to break any known rules of linguistics or xenopsychology, whereas all those other features totally violate the known laws of physics :D - Victor Ganata
It's funny that in my feed this post http://friendfeed.com/linguis... comes right after this one. :D - Victor Ganata
I mean, if you can have an idiotic spacefaring humanoid species like that Pakled, it doesn't seem that far-fetched that there's a humanoid species that is very perseverative and slow to change its tactics like the Tamarians. - Victor Ganata
I feel like Darmok starts by saying "what if the universal translator works EVERYWHERE ELSE BUT HERE", which is a bit shit to begin with, then piles on by saying "and how about they only speak in allusion", which IMO is a logical failure. - Andrew C (✔)
The bootstrapping problem isn't a problem if you reject the premise that the UT is infallible. Language is metaphor and allusion, plain and simple. And there's no reason to suspect Picard or Troi have any linguistics training and actually know what they're talking about. - Victor Ganata
Troi almost definitely got a bachelor's in Communication. - Andrew C (✔)
Given the episode as far as I remember it (and also, isn't Data a walking encyclopedia? His NAME is Data!), I think you're basically writing fanon to make the episode work. - Andrew C (✔)
A concept that defies logic can still make for an intriguing story, and a real challenge for the characters. Such challenges, as I'm sure the late Iain M. Banks has mentioned on occasion, are hard to come by in a Universe of evolved civilisation and high technology. - Slippy: Formless
Spock, is that you? - Todd Hoff
LOL, well, you know the whole schema: Data is not information, information is not knowledge, knowledge is not wisdom, etc.… Certainly he isn't infallible either. - Victor Ganata
Seriously, though, you don't think it's preposterous that non-xenolinguists can really tell that a humanoid species speaking a language they don't understand are speaking in metaphor or allusion? - Victor Ganata
Personally, I think many, many things are preposterous. :^) - Friar Will
The more I look at this episode, the more I think the things that make it seem preposterous are actually even more preposterous. - Victor Ganata
It's preposterous _in a universe where the UT exists and works for freaking everyone else_. - Andrew C (✔)
But without the UT, EVERY episode would have been Darmok and Jalad at Tenagra. Besides, the UT worked...it translated the words, just not the meaning. - Slippy: Formless
Everyone's missing the point, which is let's just ignore that a virus attack on the device would be called UT infection. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
I mean, there's a big difference between the way the UT works in TOS and the way the UT works in Enterprise. - Victor Ganata
Mary B: #TeamMonique
RT @missangeladavis: Whole wheat ice cream sandwiches? Who...why...? *throws phone* "@Food52: http://f52.co/1vcEusS #MeatlessMonday http://t.co/X3huvAyx8T"
RT @missangeladavis: Whole wheat ice cream sandwiches? Who...why...? *throws phone* "@Food52:  http://f52.co/1vcEusS  #MeatlessMonday http://t.co/X3huvAyx8T"
I don't know about this, but one of these days, I'm going to try an ice cream panini. - Victor Ganata
With brownies as the bread? I could get behind that in a hurry. - Mary B: #TeamMonique
Maitani
"For most language learners and lovers, translation is a hot topic. Should I translate new vocabulary into my first language? How can I say x in Japanese? Is this translated novel as good as the original? I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve been told that Pushkin isn’t Pushkin unless he’s read in Russian, and I have definitely chastised my own students for anxiously writing out lengthy bilingual wordlists: Paola, you’ll only remember trifle if you learn it in context!" - Maitani
"Many lovely people of the internet are in accordance: untranslatable words are out there, and they’re fascinating. A quick Google brings up articles, listicles, and even entire blogs on the matter. Goya, jayus, dépaysement — all wonderful words that neatly convey familiar concepts, but also “untranslatable” words that appear accompanied by an English definition. This English definition... more... - Maitani
I was watching a Korean variety show last night. The men were drinking makkeoli, which is a fermented rice drink. The subtitles used 'sake'. An odd choice since the Korean drink closest to sake is cheongju. I think I would've gone with 'rice wine', even though it's not really a wine. // On the other hand, Korean has some idioms that sometimes make no sense to my American ears (ex: 원숭이도... more... - Anika
For some reason, I can't think of any concrete examples right now, but I frequently get that feeling when trying to translate Tagalog into English. - Victor Ganata
But I'm sure part of it is that I don't have the whole cultural context to completely translate Tagalog phrases. Like "walang hiya" can be literally translated as "shameless" but I can't really convey (because I ultimately don't really grok) the vast difference between being "walang hiya" in the Philippines (while people use it facetiously all the time when f-ing around with friends, it can also be used as a grave insult and provocation) versus being "shameless" in the U.S. - Victor Ganata
So words or phrases are "untranslatable" because the cultural concepts they highlight are difficult to grasp for people who are not familiar with them. - Maitani
but that happens also in the same language. sometimes i cannot understand my neighbours, but we all speak italian - thomas morton ☢
Agreed. That indicates that the difference between translation and explanation (or definition, as she puts it) may be only gradual. - Maitani
if a language lacks a sharp-knife concept present in another language, often the best way to translate the word is just use the original one (and then explaining it, of course). I find more difficult to translate words whose meaning changes according to the context where they are used, even if Ifeel the difference - .mau.
"Untranslatable" words and phrases embody unique cultural perceptions and insights, which is one reason why a certain tongue may survive being absorbed by another language. +1 for diversity, and long footnotes :-) - Adriano
Adriano, do you have a particular example in mind? - Maitani
Maitani, got several... each blue dot http://ej.iop.org/images... can be seen as a juncture where something "untranslatable" begins to evolve. The distance between blue dots roughly increases the degree of incongruence, or uniqueness, among languages. Notice that over time, the number of branches tend to multiply, rather than merge into each... more... - Adriano
Victor Ganata
120 years ago today, Kitasato Shibasaburō had determined that Yersinia pestis is the causative agent of bubonic plague and his paper was published in The Lancet http://www.thelancet.com/journal...
It still trips me out how (relatively) recent the germ theory of disease and Koch's postulates are. - Victor Ganata
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Do the Dukes of Hazzard really have that much cultural cachet?
for people of my age, probably yeah. :P - holly #ravingfangirl
I guess that's true. I mean, I recognized who they were supposed to be, but the Dukes of Hazzard AutoTrader.com radio commercial just seemed like it would have a limited appeal. - Victor Ganata
I guess it makes more sense coupled with the serialized ads running on TV. - Jennifer Dittrich
Visuals, I could understand. Like a video or even still of the General Lee makes sense for a car broker. But for the radio ads, if you didn't already know who Bo and Luke are, I imagine it would seem pretty lame. - Victor Ganata
I'm guessing it's supposed to be complementary - they started the ads on TV a few weeks before the radio spots, so they're likely assuming a certain amount of market viewership already. I've seen that with other ad campaigns, and it was seriously bizarre when I didn't have any TV spots to compare it to. - Jennifer Dittrich
they were just' good ol' boys, never meanin' no harm. - Steve C
Andrew C (✔)
If White Characters Were Described Like People Of Color In Literature - http://www.buzzfeed.com/hnigatu...
"1. He looked at her longingly, as he imagined her exotic, mashed potato skin laying gently against his." - Andrew C (✔)
#16 bwahahaha. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
... I think I just lost one FB friend because they felt this post was racist. - Andrew C (✔)
Now I'm the one saying shitty things like "I'm sorry you were offended" and "I don't get why this is racist". Bleah. - Andrew C (✔)
Well, it is racist, but that's kind of the whole idea: it's pointing out how literature tends to portray PoCs in gross, objectified ways with the gimmick of flipping the script. It's supposed to offend. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
The idea that just because something is racist, we shouldn't talk about it ever just helps prop up de facto white supremacy IMHO. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
I imagine their point might have been "you could call out those gross literary devices without counter-racism". Maybe. Not sure, haven't heard back from them besides the initial call-out. - Andrew C (✔)
I know I'm very naive on this, so that might be why I didn't think marzipan and cauliflower were all that bad... - Heather
I dunno, I guess it depends on the context. - Victor Ganata from iPhone
It's funny because it's weird. I remember reading books describing skin like porcelain. I hated that shit. - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
What isn't explicitly said is how many black people are tired of always being described as foodstuffs. I think the piece is powerful BECAUSE it sounds racist. An in-your-face way of saying "well how would YOU feel?" - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
I knew a white guy who'd call me all sorts of variations of chocolate, but would get violently mad when I called him 'mayo', 'milky' or 'Wonder bread'. - Anika
I would think it hilarious if a black friend called me "Wonder Bread." Heck, I'd probably find it hilarious if a white friend called me "Wonder Bread." - Steele Lawman
I think in the buzzfeed piece, the "mayonnaise legs" line was both the funniest and probably the most offensive. - Andrew C (✔)
Alabaster is another one used to describe white people in books. But that makes them sound like rocks. Haha! - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
For me: "her complexion was that of a woefully under ripe tomato, the kind one finds in salad bars during winter." - maʀtha
I find the original post hilariously funny and effective satire. One of their points, I think, is that the skin color of white people in fiction often isn't describe at all, because they are, you know, "normal". And when people of color are described, their skin is often compared to coffee, chocolate, or other foods, but one never sees white people compared to food. And, yes, people of color are often described in ways that are racist. - maʀtha
skin like cheesy grits? was that in there? tl;dr - Big Joe Silence
But some of my best friends are white. - Andrew C (✔) from Android
Andrew C (✔)
RT @upshotnyt: Too little salt is as much a problem as too much salt. http://nyti.ms/1ruLLDV http://t.co/PRE5PA9cIT
RT @upshotnyt: Too little salt is as much a problem as too much salt.  http://nyti.ms/1ruLLDV http://t.co/PRE5PA9cIT
This makes a lot of sense if you have high blood pressure, especially if you're already on blood pressure meds. - Victor Ganata
The flipside, though, is that this only applies to the general population. If you have heart failure or chronic kidney disease, it doesn't really take that much extra salt to send you to the ER. - Victor Ganata
The little increase in BP from salt is a significant risk is you have high BP? - Todd Hoff
If you just have high blood pressure? Probably not (unless you're going over 7 grams/day regularly). But if your heart or kidneys are structurally/physiologically compromised, it's a different story. - Victor Ganata
Andrew C (✔)
RT @simonmaloy: Apparently Michael Brown was not "unarmed" because he had actual physical appendages called "arms." http://mediamatters.org/blog...
RT @simonmaloy: Apparently Michael Brown was not "unarmed" because he had actual physical appendages called "arms." http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/08/25/fox-news-worried-that-referring-to-michael-brow/200532
Anne Bouey
6.0 Earthquake centered a few miles away did some damage here.
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I was like "HOLY HELL!!!1!1!" until I realised the portrait photos are landscape here :) - Johnny from iPhone
Whoa. Everybody okay? - Lisa L. Seifert from iPhone
Hope y'all are ok. - Kirsten from Android
Non-human damage is doable. Glad you are okay. - Janet
Everyone is fine. Despite what the photos show, the house didn't flip over! Pics just showed up sideways. :) - Anne Bouey from iPhone
When I saw the epicenter, I wondered if you guys were unscathed. Glad to hear. - Anika
Power is out so we'll see if there's damage to the house in daylight. - Anne Bouey from iPhone
that poor pineapple ;) (glad everyone is ok) - ellbeecee from Android
Glad you're okay. - MoTO: Tufted Coqeutte
Glad everyone is okay. Stay safe! - Kristin from iPhone
I didn't think it was that big! It woke us up, but I was thinking it was in the 4.x range. I'm glad you are okay and hope that, in the daylight, the damage isn't worse. - vicster: full-bodied
Glad you're OK. - Eric Logan
I'm glad you guys are okay. - NOT THE CRICKET
Glad you're all ok! - Mary Carmen from iPhone
But how is the beautiful deck??? Oh and the kitty? :) - Steve C
Very glad you guys are okay. You were the first person I thought of when I heard where it was. *hugs* - Tamara J. B. from FFHound(roid)!
Yeesh. Felt it here in Sac so I knew it had to be a big one. Glad you're okay, Anne. - Corinne L
Just saw the news and raced to check in. I'm glad you're okay! - joey
Glad you're ok! I now understand why the previous owners of my house had baby proofing on lower AND upper cabinets. Wondering if I should put them back on... - Yvonne Renee from FFHound!
^ Good idea - Stephan Planken from iPhone
((((Anne)))) - MAMA VAL#GOSCARLETTGO
Earthquake putty for display items. Can't recommend it enough <3 - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Glad you're OK. "hugs" - #cryptic from FFHound(roid)!
(((( )))) ... hope you are doing OK!! - Sepi ⌘ سپی
Glad to hear you're OK! - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Scary. I felt it all the way down here in Watsonville. - Rodfather from Android
glad you all are ok! - holly #ravingfangirl
Happy to hear that no one was hurt! - Jenny H. from Android
Sarah G.
RT @clint: BBC took it there http://t.co/tEz1udpdrH
RT @clint: BBC took it there http://t.co/tEz1udpdrH
Long live the California Republic :) - Victor Ganata from iPhone
laura x
Survey: When I see a police officer, I feel ____________. DM me if you don't want to answer publicly.
intimidated - RepoRat
Defensive - Christina Pikas from iPhone
curious. (As in, what is the officer doing, thinking, investigating. I see officers every day at my train station since it's connected to the airport.) - Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart from Android
reflexively afraid. unless I know them personally. (have since I was a kid. raised in a hippie context.) when I lived in a high-crime neighborhood, I generally felt relieved to see them, because it took them forever to show up when called, and they never patrolled our area - so if they were there, they were at least *interrupting* something bad going down. not sure I'd feel that way now. - Marianne
Anxious. (Even though I stopped speeding years ago.) - laura x from iPhone
Nothing - Amir
anxious - maʀtha
Grateful or anxious, depending on if I'm in a car or at work. - Rochelle *boom* Hartman
Grateful. - Eric Logan from FFHound!
Careful - Todd Hoff
Meh. - Joe
If I see an officer and the lights are spinning on a car that he or she may be in, then I get a little anxious. - Joe
nothing one way or the other - MAMA VAL#GOSCARLETTGO
grateful that we seem to have a skilled serve & protect department, not a paramilitary force. - Walt Crawford
Anxious. The two times I've called them for help: embarrassed. I never realized just how much my parents managed to inculcate me with the whole "never talk to cops" thing that probably a lot of immigrants from developing countries have. - Victor Ganata
Conscientious. - Julian
Curious, mostly. But depending in the situation, that feeling might be anxiety, anger, or relief. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
Nothing. It is about as noteworthy as seeing a fast food worker or UPS guy. They're just someone doing their job in an immediately recognizable uniform. - Soup in a TARDIS
Curious, but it's also contextual. If I seem them coming in where I work, I do wonder what's wrong (we've had the police come in to arrest people in the past). - Katy S
Self-aware. Am I acting normal enough? AM I ACTING TOO NORMAL? What would a normal person do, in my situation? - Meg VMeg
^ This right here. I start to immediately wonder if I'm doing anything that might get me in trouble or make me seem suspicious, even though I know perfectly well that I've done nothing wrong. - Hookuh Tinypants
Oh, yeah...totally what Meg and Amanda are talking about. Why do I suddenly feel like I got caught on my way to the kitchen to sneak a cookie at night? - (Curtis) Alan Jackson
Is it possible for Meg to act normal? Or anyone? - Joe
Curious, self-conscious, possibly defensive depending on the context. - Corinne L
Cautious. Self-aware works, too. - Lola Bean (Penguin)
Tense, anxious, self conscious. Usually it's seeing a police car while driving which means I immediately slow down even though I'm rarely gouing more than 5 mph over the limit. - Galadriel C. from Android
Agree on the context. Curious/bland. I lived with a NY city cop (he's married to one of my best friends, we shared an apt when he was in academy) and both this apt/last I live 2 blocks from police station. I am at ease w/ the liaison from CPD that I see at work all the time, though other officers in MPOW make me nervous. - Hedgehog from Android
Anxious, defensive (if in US). Nothing (if in Norway). - Jenny H. from Android
Norwegian's make me nervous. They eat Reindeer. - Eric Logan
Curious. - Melly
Especially if in traffic I know he's above the law. Speeding, no turn signals, weaving around btwn lanes, running red lights, anything everybody else would get pulled over for. So I just get out of the way. Because who pulls over a cop? - Otherwise, not much to be felt. - Uli
Stephen Mack
You know what triggers my latent OCD sometimes? The fact that September, October, November and December are not the 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th months.
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Image: Matinée de Septembre (or September Morn), a painting by the French artist Paul Émile Chabas (1869–1937). "Painted over three summers ending in 1912, it became famous when it provoked a scandal in the USA." Via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Stephen Mack from iPhone
"Ultimately, the painting would be labelled as kitsch by critics who thought it lacking in interesting artistic features: contrast, coordinated lines, and a worthy subject." Ouch! - Brian Johns
Sparky: Yeah, critics are mean! - Stephen Mack
And I have always liked this painting, kitschy or not. - Stephen Mack
But! Back to month names. - Stephen Mack
How do we fix this? Well, the easiest fix would be to remove the two months added latest, January and February. And then stick them at the end of the year. So we'd essentially shift every month down two spots. - Stephen Mack
But I actually think "May" is a terrible name for a month. If you buy that "June" is named after the Latin word "iuniores" (young men; juniors) and that May is named after the Latin word "maiores" (grown men; majors) then we have two months dedicated to young and old men. (Via http://www.pantheon.org/miscell... .) No one needs that. So we should remove those two, shift the rest up two, and then come up with two new month names for the 11th and 12th months. - Stephen Mack
I am therefore hereby calling for submissions for new month names. - Stephen Mack
(Note that "June" is typically described as being named after the goddess Juno. e.g.http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki...) - Stephen Mack
"Stupid Smarch weather." - Victor Ganata
We could always just go back to the old Roman calendar of 10 months plus 60 days of Winter (at least in the Northern Hemisphere). :D #WinterIsComing #decimalization #metricization - Victor Ganata
Thinking about this more, I think it would probably just be easier to rename September, October, November, and December to things that aren't numerical. Problem solved! - Victor Ganata
If 9=Septem, 10=Octo, 11=Novem, 12=Decem bothers you, can you imagine how people must've been really irritated by the fact that New Year's Day was March 25th? - Victor Ganata
Can you imagine if we still had a month called Sextilis? #iam12 - Victor Ganata
^ I think we need that month again. - Stephen Mack
Sextilis, nine months later, Natalis ;) - Pete
Or remove the vanity months of July and August, whose names were changed after January & February were added. - Cristo
nowadays we no longer need the calendar to know when to sow, I wonder how it could be a 400-days-long year, with ten months, each with four ten-days weeks, with three day of festivity per week - mario leone
Mario, why a 400 day year? Don't we still need it to be 365.3? Or do you want the seasons to shift? - Stephen Mack
I think we don't, seasons may shift, they would shift without the leap years - mario leone
But we have leap years just so the seasons don't shift! I'm all for decimalization, but I think a basic requirement of an annual calendar is that it should actually align to the period of time it takes the Earth to revolve around the sun. - Stephen Mack
Proposal: 10 "months", each with 6 weeks of 6 days, (so "month" = 36 days), with 5.3 days of 'bonus' time between the 'end' of a year and the 'start' of the next. Days are still 24 hours of course. 'Bonus' time may or may not be used as in the 'Purge' movies. :) - Ken Gidley
Metric time: 1 year = 10 months, 1 month = 10 weeks, 1 week = 10 days, 1 day = 10 hours, 1 hour = 100 minutes, 1 minute = 100 seconds, with seconds redefined appropriately :D Screw solstices, the moon, and sunrises and sunsets! - Victor Ganata
So THAT'S how The Purge got started! - Stephen Mack from iPhone
And that's the news on Quintidi, Fructidor the 5th, 221. - David Lounsbury from iPhone
Somewhat similar to Victor's proposal, but slightly different. The fixed time units are days and years, which correspond to the rotation of the Earth and its orbit around the Sun. I'll explain more in another post: http://friendfeed.com/cristob... - Cristo
I swear that I heard this conversation just the other day in the office. - NOT THE CRICKET
Andrew C (✔)
RT @lonefilm: .@ndsinnott An actual Simpsons HD conversion blunder (from S06E10). Are the kids at a Sausage Festival? #thanksfxx http://t.co/DosObNkwzh
RT @lonefilm: .@ndsinnott An actual Simpsons HD conversion blunder (from S06E10).  Are the kids at a Sausage Festival? #thanksfxx http://t.co/DosObNkwzh
Makes you wonder how much of that random visual humor ends up getting cut off. - Jennifer Dittrich
There'll probably be a tumblr cataloging them all eventually. Off the top of my head there's also "Old Man Yells At Cloud" and the Stock Footage Festival signs. - Andrew C (✔)
"Old Man Yells At Cloud" is going have such a different interpretation in the future :D - Victor Ganata from iPhone
It's like what happened to the opening line of Neuromancer - Victor Ganata from iPhone
Victor Ganata
I always struggle with finding a suitable term for the idea (or perhaps even the delusion) that with enough effort, the human brain can comprehend everything there is about the universe. I think "positivism" works, but it's kind of obscure and esoteric and no one ever knows what I'm talking about.
It's interesting that someone like Neil deGrasse Tyson, who generally seems to be a positivist, would utter something like "The Universe is under no obligation to make sense to you." - Victor Ganata
It fits for me, because it acknowledges that there are barriers to understanding, even if we are ultimately capable of overcoming them. The why and how of what we discover may bear little relation to what we think we're going to find starting out. - Jennifer Dittrich
I think what he means is it doesn't have to make sense to you, you have to understand why the universe makes sense. - Johnny from iPhone
I figure he means something like that, that the Universe has no obligation to obey your personal idiosyncratic logic and that it has its own internal logic that is not transparent to the human brain but can be eventually elucidated to an extent. It's still a far cry from the position a lot of apparent positivists hold, though. - Victor Ganata
I figure it's a more nuanced and ultimately more productive version of positivism. Yes, we have the potential, but we can't realize that without challenging our assumptions and doing the work. Acknowledging the challenges doesn't lessen the potential, it just gives people more room to have inevitable failures or wrongheadedness at various points. - Jennifer Dittrich
Well, I suppose it's the ideal balance between positivism and skepticism that science is supposed to be. Currently accepted theories are only supposed to be *provisionally* authoritative at best, if ever, and it's acknowledged that no matter how much we learn, there's always going to be some mystery lurking beyond the horizon of what we know that can't be explained with our existing logical constructs. But humans don't really seem to operate that way, even in science. - Victor Ganata
Miriella
One of these is not like the other. Someone should be fired. #starwars http://instagram.com/p...
One of these is not like the other. Someone should be fired. #starwars http://instagram.com/p/sDSB5vDpFp/
pfff I don't know what the problem is! they both have star in their titles, which means that they're the same thing! and that darth...sidioadary dude is in both of them right? :P - Sir Shuping is just sir
Tangential, but I just heard an interview with George Takei where he was talking about how ST:TMP wouldn't have been greenlit if not for Star Wars. - Victor Ganata
Victor Ganata
As expected, this "upgrade" to the EMR's UI is still terrible, but in a different way.
Seriously, though, having to side scroll in a frame is such a total UI fail. /headdesk - Victor Ganata
t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
I just got laid off. Fuck.
Aw, shit. (((t-ra))) - Spidra Webster
(hugs) I'm sorry. - Steve C
:( - Todd Hoff
:( - Amit Patel
(((t))) - Julian
Damn. Sorry to hear it. - Jim: with more caffeine!
I'm so sorry. - Jed rocks the party.
Oh, no. :( *huggle* - Alix May
Well hell. - Kirsten
:( - Amir
Oh, crap. I'm so sorry :((( - Jennifer Dittrich
:(((. so sorry to hear that - WarLord
thanks y'all. I'm just... I dunno, kinda shocked really. I knew something was wrong, but didn't want to believe it was that bad. dang. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
Damn. Sorry to hear that. Hope something better works out for you. - SAM
Oh jeez. - Joe
ow. so sorry to hear - MoTO: Tufted Coqeutte
That sucks. - Steele Lawman
Aw, hell. I'm sorry t-ra. *hugs and hugs* - vicster: full-bodied
Oof, I'm sorry. - Anika
Oh, I'm sorry! - Katy S from iPhone
Oh no. - Marie
Sorry - Rodfather
aw man. sorry to hear that. - holly #ravingfangirl
Damn it. I'm sorry. - Betsy
:( So sorry to hear that. (((t-ra))) - Anne Bouey
:((( *hugs* - Tamara J. B.
I'm sorry. - Eric
sorry to hear that - Shevonne
:( Sorry to hear - Me
:( I'm sorry, T-Ra. - Stephen Mack
oh wow, you gais! you are so sweet. thanks for all your comments. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra
I'm sorry, t-ra. Entirely their loss. - Brent Schaus from FFHound!
I hope this is a only a temporary setback for you. - Mark H
😢 - Steven Perez from Android
crap-o-potamus. - Stephan!e•CogSc!L!brar!an
Oof. Bummer. Hope things turn around fast. - RepoRat
Sorry, t. - Micah from FFHound(roid)!
So. very. Sorry! :( - CarlC
:( That sucks. - rönin
I am sorry - Patrick aka Damexican
Crap. - Meg VMeg from Android
wha??? *HUGS* is there anything we can do to help? - Sir Shuping is just sir
:( - imabonehead from Android
So very sorry :( - Janet from FFHound!
Oh no, sorry to hear that! - Stephan Planken from iPhone
Oh no! I am sorry to hear this news! - Hedgehog from Android
Shit. I'm sorry, honey. - Starmama from FFHound(roid)!
I'm so very sorry about this! - Galadriel C. from Android
oh shit (((((t)))) - MAMA VAL#GOSCARLETTGO
Thanks again, everyone. Y'all are so good to me. I truly appreciate being part of this community. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
Just saw this. Dammit, dammit, dammit. May the sucky part end soon and lead to something truly awesome. - Corinne L
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Stuff 'em, they don't deserve you - Mo Kargas
Oy. I hope it's because the universe needed to free you up for the effing fantastic plans in store for you soon. - Kristin
*hugs* - Michael W. May from Android
Damn. ((((hugs)))) - J. Marie B
Ugh! I'm so sorry :( - Jen
I hope this turn of events proves to be an opportunity to pursue something new and exciting. I know you will rock, whatever else you do. - Bren
Thank you, boo. - t-ra supports #LOLSpidra from Android
:-(. I'm so sorry. - Shannon - GlassMistress
Oh, no. :( - Lisa L. Seifert from iPhone
Sorry to hear, let's talk I may have a project that might be interested in. - Eric Logan from FFHound!
oh Fuck! that sucks! - RudĩϐЯaЯïan
Andrew C (✔)
If Christopher Columbus discovered America, who discovered Italy?
Well, see, there were these twins, Mario and Luigi, raised by a she-wolf... - Micah
Aeneas. No, wait, Lavinia. - Victor Ganata
Marius Marius and Ludovicus Marius—Super Mariō Fratres :) - Victor Ganata
heh - Micah
Victor Ganata
Giving an orbital period of exactly 365 days for earth is actually inaccurate enough to cause a noticeable discrepancy within four years. (I'm looking at you Google!)
Depends on how you define "noticeable". navigators and astrologers would notice, but farmers might not. - DJF from Android
In four years, the solstices would shift by a day. I mean, it might not be *significant* and people probably wouldn't realize it unless they were told, but I still imagine shifting the first day of summer (in the northern hemisphere) from June 21 to June 22 (then to June 23, etc., etc.) would be a relatively big deal. - Victor Ganata
One day wouldn't be noticeable in the mid European latitudes, because you need minute accuracy times for sunrise and sunset to see that it's the longest day. But yes, the drift would be noticeable fairly quickly. Such is why the Julian calendar is so old (but that's because of astrology and navigation, since the length of the day is far less variable closer to the equator). - DJF from Android
In the average lifespan of a human male in the U.S., the solstice would shift 19 days. So maybe still not significant, but still kind of weird to imagine the first day of summer being in July. - Victor Ganata
I stated by talking about the one day shift caused by a single for year leap cycle. At the equator, days and nights are effectively both twelve hours long year round, so the calendar is driven by the constellations, and by the Nile's flooding. - DJF from Android
Well, I was just assuming a situation where the only difference was the lack of the leap year. Like, you'd still be able to Google for sunrises and sunsets and astronomers would still post when the solstices were occurring. So, yeah, it's doubtful you'd notice just looking for the sun (unless you were at the poles, I guess) but it would be weird to see astronomers tracking the shift of the solstices. - Victor Ganata
You mean like the way Ramadan drifts through the Gregorian calendar? - DJF from Android
Yeah, but Ramadan is always in the same place in the Hijri calendar. It just depends on which cycle you want to prioritize. I mean, it's not like most of us need to know when the solstices and the equinoxes are to plant crops, but it does make planning vacations a little more convenient :D - Victor Ganata
I guess I didn't say that well. Ramadan drifting through the sidereal year is the same effect as astronomers tracking the drift of the solstice, or conversely and equivalently, June 19th drifting through the sidereal year. - DJF from Android
Ah, I searched for "orbital period of earth" and got 365 exact https://www.google.com/search... - Victor Ganata
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