wish I had a camera I am doing Jazz hands for you Derrick.........
- VAL D.
*dons black tam... shuffles slowly on to stage... turns back on audience... awaits muse....*
- MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS
have you been to Red, White and Blues in Pasadena yet? I walked by there the other day and it looked pretty happening. Live Jazz and shitloads of wine to choose from.
- Morgan Haley
I'll have to check it out. I've been listening to Coltrane, but I'm thinking I need some Thelonious.
- Derrick
Even though I've seen these cakes and have even attended a few divorce parties, it seems like an awful waste of energy and kinda sad.
- Admiral Anika
A.. divorce party? As in "OHH YAY OUR MARRIED LIFE FAILED!" party? WTF
- Mo Kargas
Yes. The people are like, "I signed the papers, let's go celebrate". There's always a sort of desperation to it, so it just makes me sad. I can see having a few close friends over for support, but treating it like a bachelor(ette) party strikes me odd.
- Admiral Anika
Weird. I guess if it has taken a really long time, I could see wanting to mark it somehow, and that's less destructive than drinking a whole bottle of scotch, or lighting a bunch of pictures on fire...
- Jennifer Dittrich
I would imagine it is the celebration of a great liberating experience given the right circumstances.
- Geoff Schultz
Well, let's see... the Apple 30" is 27 inches wide, and standard ergo recommendations says you want a viewing distance of 20-40"... 6 would give you a polygon with a 23" viewing distance... 7 would give you you 28"... I'd say 7. Actually 14. Two "rows" of 7.
- Ken Sheppardson
It's really the 360 degree chair/desk rig that's the hard part, btw.
- Ken Sheppardson
Doesn't that leave you stuck inside, Ken?
- Tim Tyler
I too thought it was Al Gore & a post about his many computers' effects on global warming!
- beersage
I think the right number ignoring cost is the same as the right number including cost -- the massive energy consumption exerts downward pressure, just like the cost. But now the ideal number of 30" monitors if you ignore both cost and the effect on the environment...well I still think it's 1. Doing what Al Gore's doing here, to me, is like sitting in the very front row of the movie theatre.
- j1m
30" monitors are very effective internal wall insulation.
- Bernie Goldbach
I think maybe a 10' high by 30' wide wall of them would be about ideal. I can't decide if I would want the wall to be linear or circular, though, or what kind of seating choices I would like.
- ⓞnor
He should convert all those books and papers in his office into electronic format. Use his bookcase as a monitor wall with nine 30" monitors. A setup like this would rock: http://friendfeed.com/imabone...
- imabonehead
Put some of them on a hinged or sliding wall and the trapped problem goes away.
- Andrew C
I just hope his computer desktop isn't as messy as his actual desktop.
- j1m
I am only staring at two at the moment... (actually 2x30"+23"+20")
- Paulo Gaspar
I was thinking of some sort of turret-like setup where you climb up into the ring of monitors... or better yet: hydraulics
- Ken Sheppardson
Yes, ideally you'd want something that would make Professor X jealous. Maybe they could fold down from a petal-like ring arrangement from the ceiling.
- Andrew C
Aha... or think Darth Vader meditation chamber.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, now I'm picturing Al Vader surrounded by monitors, hilarious!!
- Lo is a Quitter
I'd say 3. Anymore and you'll start neglecting one of them.
- Mr. Gunn
Empirically speaking, zero. I've stopped plugging my laptop into my 30" monitor at work. All the windows get messed up. Plus, I have this theory that sticking to a single laptop screen helps me focus better.
- Jim Norris
Fighting climate change one flat screen at a time. Just think how much power he is saving when he turns it all off to go out. Does he have eyes in the back of his head or is the TV on just because he hates polar bears?
- John Cooper
Jim, I agree with you. When I had two monitors, I used one for actual work and the other for mail, friendfeed and other distractions. I do prefer using a 24" screen to my laptop screen.
- Gary Burd
@Jim, personally, I find that my laptop screen is too confining. I plug into a 23" LCD at work. I use the LCD for TextMate and a couple of Terminals, then I keep a browser open on the laptop for testing and search. That works really well for me. If all I have is my laptop screen, I spend a lot of time Alt-TABing between apps.
- Jason Huebel
I've settled in on a 3-screen setup: Center (24") has 2-4 terminal windows, either half of 1/4 of the screen each; Right (22") has a Chrome window, IM, and often a couple more terminal windows monitoring processes or logs; Left (20") has either media player software or live.twit.tv in a Chrome window :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken - Are you using any special software to organize the windows on your screen? I'm using a 30" monitor at work as my main screen and my 17" laptop screen as my secondary. On the 30" screen, I use a proggie called WinSplit Revolution to split my screen into sections. It's a lifesaver. Keyboard shortcuts automatically move and size the focused window to any portion of the screen you choose.
- Curtiss Grymala
No, Curtiss. I've tried different apps over the years, but nothing ever really clicked. However, I just discovered that the Windows key plus arrow keys in Windows 7 will now resize windows, e.g. Win+Left expands the window to the left half of the screen, Win+Left again moves it to the next monitor, etc.
- Ken Sheppardson
Nice. That's kind of the way winsplit works, except it uses ctrl+alt. Ctrl+alt+left moves window to left monitor, ca+rt moves to right screen. It also uses ctrl+alt plus any key on the number pad to move the window to any quadrant/half of the screen.
- Curtiss Grymala
from iPhone
Hell yes it is! All the fine dudes and finest bitches still be rocking the Casbah daily and nightly here on the station with it all! K-FFD!
- Morgan Haley
Still alive but the momentum and will to live is gone -- and the sale and virtual abandonment was like shutting out the lights in the middle of a party -- a signal for everybody to go home.
- Brian Sullivan
The Google real-time announcement certainly didn't hurt!!!!
- Charlie Anzman
Honestly, it's not that much different -- plenty to chat about, and plenty to chat with -- and it's still storing all my web finds perfectly. There's an extremely considerate and passionate community. So... sure!
- Christopher Galtenberg
It is to me - it all depends on what you make of it
- Jesse Stay
Who is here is replying "yes". Who's not here any more just won't reply. The fact is few weeks ago you wouldn't have asked :) [ah, this means it is not kicking as in the past]
- Markingegno - Donato
from Android
I would say yes. It had a slump period for me for a couple of months, but now I'm putting more in it and getting more from it in return.
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Tricky question. Nothing else out there has this feature-set, and AFAIC that's the killer, I use FF because it's the best platform. Maybe some people drifting away since the sale, but OTOH there are new people joining. My buddies Nat and Brent from Calgary both joined around the time of the sale and have both really gotten into it. I have more discussions here than on Twitter, and I think that's true for a lot of people.
- Louis Simoneau
And @Scoble: the fact that you don't get 12 000+ followers on FF makes it less attractive to social media marketing types, which actually makes it BETTER as a platform for meeting and interacting with real people. I have 'friends' on Twitter that I've back-and-forthed with a few times but couldn't really tell you much about, whereas here, I feel like I really KNOW people like Derrick, Jandy, Monique, etc.
- Louis Simoneau
Only to some hardcore dedicated FF'ers. Other then that its just here for Robert Scoble to come on and preach how every worthy tech person he follows is on Twitter and how this site is dead.
- CW™
And regarding Robert's statement, OF COURSE a founder of Google will get thousands people who click the follow button. Then what? I look forward to Eric having 12,000 individual conversations this week, so someone ping me when that happens :) I've gleaned more valuable insights into the thought process and perspective of Google/Googlers from being in and around the conversations started by DeWitt on Friendfeed than I have in any other way.
- Micah Wittman
I have to excuse myself for not being very active for quite a while: I was being busy organising the Dutch Bloggies. I do think FriendFeed is still alive, but I sure wished there were more Dutch people to keep up a conversation with. It's making it difficult, now I'm out of organising for a week, to start up being involved again. I'm jealous at the Egyptian & Italian people, who seem to have a whole community here.
- Ton Zijp
Friendfeed is immortal, perfect, the best. Friendfeed will never die. ... in fact, the end of behemoths like Facebook and Twitter will be tweeted on Friendfeed.!
- Petr Buben
Just got back into using FF more heavily and find it much more enjoyable to any of the Twitter clients I've found. I can actually engage with the people that I "follow" and learn more about them and find interests instead of just trying to separate the wheat from the chaff like I feel I do on Twitter
- Ian Rudy
Am I the only one who got tired of responding to posts that ask if the site is still alive? "Charlie, you there? Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Can you here me *now*?....I gave up on 'em after Scoble's 2nd one. Just ignore
- Fulaan, inna Hebel
they scanned a biz card from a Android ... into an Address Book ,.
- johnpiercy
Looks like on the fly OCR, properly parsed into contact data. That is win.
- EricaJoy
Two weeks ago, my boss came back from a big event with 60+ visit cards. He had a scanner and a software. Guess what I suggested and then regretted? :)
- Jérôme Flipo
This feature will save a lot of time, for many users, and move many of them to Google Contacts.
- Jérôme Flipo
Richard, it's one possible use of the new Google Goggles product http://www.techcrunch.com/2009.... It recognize the text on visit cards and makes it useful. That's a pretty convincing application of Google's mission IMO.
- Jérôme Flipo
I was just thinking how much I would like smartphone OCR.
- Andrew C
If you have this installed on your Android phone, for fun go to Amazon and start taking pictures of book covers. Its nuts!
- EricaJoy
Erica, does it read the book in the language you want? What, not yet?! :)
- Jérôme Flipo
Another reason to get an androphone soon, very soon ;-)
- Stanislas Jourdan
When is the Iphone vers,,, I want NOW
- johnpiercy
I bet they'll merge this Goggles thing with the current iPhone app. If they release their branded phone with Google Nav and Goggles, I'll feel old school with my iPhone.
- Jérôme Flipo
Erica, the existing Amazon Android app does book covers. And so does the standalone app SnapTell. =)
- Andrew C
Just DL'ed from Android Market. Doesn't work all the time but very cool!
- Mike Reynolds
It's been hit and miss for me, but when I took a picture of a business card, it Goggles scanned it and gave me a list of the contact information just like the picture depicts. It messed up a couple of letters ("e" was "o", etc), but overall did a decent job. It /does not/ do facial recognition.
- Jason Huebel
Took a picture of a bag of potato chips and got some demon wicca sex blogs. But then took a picture of a coffee table art book that's just a figurative painting on cover and it correctly identified it as a Julian Schnabel book. Definitely entertaining but definitely labs level results.
- Hayes Haugen
Can't see it in the [Canadian] Market. Does it work with Android 1.5?
- Andrew C
Nope, 1.6 and newer. Turning into a trend.
- Hayes Haugen
Then Rogers *really* needs to get off their asses and release the 1.6 update.
- Andrew C
Ahhhh.so it's for people with crappy input devices ;-). One day will people have forgotten how to type. It's a good idea. We'll see when they make it available to all platforms.
- Richard A.
If a device hasn't been updated to 1.6 already I don't think it's likely it ever will be. Everyone has their hands full with 2.0.1.
- Hayes Haugen
Ergh, maybe I'll just root the phone then. =P
- Andrew C
How to get more people to use FriendFeed after the FF buyout?
- imabonehead
Laura, that depends on what you define as moral. I know of several things that could act as another stream of income. What are your interests? Are you lookin for anything specific?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
to replace all audio. sorry I never saw this until today. basically - imagine the stream being a strict "lip sync" channel (because. seriously. you do not want to hear me sing)
- Nathalie, Dreamer of FF
"Prostitutes of a Danish sex workers association will offer their services for free to delegates of the UN climate summit in Copenhagen, an association official told AFP Saturday."
- bcultral
from Bookmarklet
Keeps them warm in their 65 degree hotel rooms?
- Kenton
Yes Jerome, I agree and lots of people are telling the same in the last months. But I still prefer the GREAT contents which I cant find anywhere else.
- Luca Gianneramo
Sure, but what if Friendfeeders were (silently) moving to Facebook to share their content? I would subscribe to my favorite FF friends there and actually start using my account.
- Jérôme Flipo
I think I could use Twitter to distribute links but right now, I just can't follow or participate in discussion there.
- Jérôme Flipo
In fact I cant use Twitter to distribute link: there's no way to really create a discussion and share opinions. That's why FF is better to me. Regarding FB: I cant imagine the average FF user moving to FB to share stuff. With who? Come on... :P
- Luca Gianneramo
The point to me is that here (at least regarding the Italian users in general) discussions' level is decreasing: more jokes, less serious stuff. But it's still a clever, intelligent way to get fun.
- Luca Gianneramo
Luck Italians http://friendfeed.com/bret...! There's very little activity among French users, now. And people I found extremely interesting have somewhat abandoned the ship, even though they drop a comment every now and then :(
- Jérôme Flipo
Thanks for the chart, very interesting (I knew in Turkey FF is widespread). Anyway, even here a few of users (the so-called "stars") left this networ in the last months.
- Luca Gianneramo
And my internship let me very little time for sharing content and participate in discussions. I'm sure the best days of FF are far behind now, whatever the Facebook teams is preparing.
- Jérôme Flipo
My stars are more tech/science/media innovators than entertainers, and they do have retired :( Unfortunately, we didn't migrate to one service, and we're scattered between Reader, Twitter and Facebook, and none of these places can host conversation.
- Jérôme Flipo
Here they are above all bloggers (which moved to the social networks in the last years).
- Luca Gianneramo
For tech stuff, Reddit gives me a daily shot of great content and comments, but it isn't as social as FF, and very geeky.
- Jérôme Flipo
what do you mean by "a la friendfeed"? I have an idea about where you're leading to, just need confirmation
- lelapin
BTW, have you seen some interesting threads in Wave? Oh, and are you there??
- Jérôme Flipo
Me, Jerome? Yes, I'm in there, but I use Wave for my job (it's GREAT for it), not as a social network. To me it's not and it wont be a SN.
- Luca Gianneramo
lelapin until now I've only used Facebook to share personal stuff to real-life friends. 95% of my home stream is made of friends' photos and status updates. Pushing public and serious content may be perceived as spamming by my friends, right now :)
- Jérôme Flipo
I agree with Jerome regarding the "spam issue" on FB. Moreover to me that's not the target for serious discussions. It's sad, but I talk about cultural level...
- Luca Gianneramo
There's definitly a lack of a tool, be that on Facebook or Friendfeed for that matter, that would allow one to adjust the 'volume' one would accept to get from one's friends. This said 'spam' might be too strong a word for something coming from one's friends, don't think? It is like unsollicited e-mail, is it?
- lelapin
Oh cool, Luca! But I hope you'll manage to use it for work and leisure, if it takes off.
- Jérôme Flipo
Absolutely, lelapin. But most of my friends don't differentiate spam from bacn :)
- Jérôme Flipo
I use it basically to share articles like I do on FF or Twitter. Now I don't expect much comments from there and I try not to engage in conversations on FB knowing nothing can be synched and agregated outside FB which is THE problem I have with FB. Other than that, I have several pages there since it is admitedly the most popular platform these days.
- lelapin
Meh. No one answered my question: "who's using Facebook à la Friendfeed?"
- Jérôme Flipo
Read a couple of comments above please, I asked you what you meant by "a la friendfeed"
- lelapin
From my experience, à la Friendfeed = "pushing public and serious content" while the Facebook style consists in "sharing personal stuff to real-life friends".
- Jérôme Flipo
in that regard I use Facebook a la Friendfeed. Twitter is actually the platform I favour for, like you worded it, pushing serious content by mostly retweeting. Whenever I come across something, be that originally from a tweet or other sources, I generally Tumblr it, Stumble upon it, Digg it, [insert all kind of SN] it and, because I wired Facebook and Friendfeed so as to allow...
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- lelapin
Jérôme : I try more and more to use facebook like you describe that. Many reasons push me to do so : I have more and more non-IRL friends there (even my next employer...), and I also see more and more senior people there who are more likely to use fb in a serious way.
- Stanislas Jourdan
For the moment it is still (too) quiet on my wall, but sometimes there are some good discussions still. I believe that more and more people will engage discussions there, but the shift will be very slow.
- Stanislas Jourdan
However, people like you who want to have great discussion on your favorite topics, i'm afraid will be disappointed for a long time... Wave might be a better place for that IMO.
- Stanislas Jourdan
Indeed. I just need a way to push Facebook updates only to some people (and better policies, and better interface, and better content aggregation functions, and....). I think "group updates" is already available to US-based users (meanwhile, we have "groups" where you can set up a visibility level to your content).
- Jérôme Flipo
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- Spidra Webster
from Bookmarklet
I have this talk with myself every other month. I hate having to kill myself trying to make enough money just to rent an apartment in the Bay Area, but there are some things about living here that I just can't give up. Yet.
- vicster
I always told myself that if I moved from the Bay Area, it would be because I'm moving out of the US. However, getting more and more disabled has made it so I need to move back in with my parents. I'll miss LOADS of things here but I won't miss the crime, crime-enabling PC attitudes and dirtiness.
- Spidra Webster
Two close friends of mine left the Bay Area for these among other reasons and moved to Portland. It may be the best thing that ever happened to them, after the birth of their child. :-)
- Kevin Fox
If I were having children, the high cost of living here would not be the biggest problem. Far bigger is the crime problem and bad public schools.
- Spidra Webster
What do you mean by crime-enabling PC attitudes?
- Jim Norris
I was pretty sure someone was going to ask that. I just wrote a whole bunch about it but really, I can't adequately explain it if you don't live here. Politics in Berkeley and Oakland are pretty messed up. Read some newspapers & blogs if you want to know more.
- Spidra Webster
Actually the government for Oakland, Berkeley AND San Francisco is pretty seriously effed up.Very ineffective (not just where crime is concerned) and the elected officials all make it obvious that they are there only because they see it as a step on the ladder to higher office.
- vicster
Thanks, Spidra. I live on the Peninsula but I'm only somewhat familiar with East Bay politics.
- Jim Norris
"Once upon a time, some brave scientists had a noble dream of ridding our food of the plague of nutrients. Today, at the start of the 21st century, the miracle of food processing has brought that dream closer to reality than ever before. From vitamin-free "blueberry bits" to spray-can cheese to avocado-free guacamole, food scientists have worked tirelessly to bring us new and exciting foods that contain as little nutrition as possible. Even apparently "healthy" foods such as soups have been ingeniously overloaded with so much salt you feel as if you’re eating French fries. In this article, we’ll provide a handy guide to six uniquely unnatural processed foods that will hopefully serve as a blueprint for humanity’s eventual triumph over the tyrannical fist of Mother Nature."
- Steven Perez
from Bookmarklet
Generally liked, but "Spam is derived primarily from pork shoulder meat (seriously)" is idiotic. Where on the pig does the author think would be better? If you can't handle the thought that your meat used to be a working muscle on an animal, then don't eat meat.
- Andrew C
"Spam first hit the big-time during World War II [...] When you think about it, it's remarkable that more of our troops didn't defect to the German army, which assuredly would have offered them generous helpings of bratwurst, knockwurst and schweineschnitzel in exchange for changing sides." Man, the author is going to be in for a huge surprise if/when he looks up (1) the fat content of those sausages and (2) where on the pig those meats come from.
- Andrew C
No Velveeta pasteurized processed cheese-like product?
- LogEx