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lol -- I'm not laughing AT you...per se.. :P - Shey
WIN +BAGILLION Marco - Anna Haro
I can't stand mac and cheese, but I am with you on simplicity. And hubby said nom nom. - Michelle Martinez
I _am_ a food snob, and what you just described (Kraft Dinner for our Canadian friends) sounds awesome. - Dave Roth
@shey this is one of those things that i don't mind being ridiculed over - i've had some damned good food in my life and in the right circumstances mac n cheese holds its own with all of it @anna das' right! @michelle it feels like you just told me you don't like chocolate - Marco
There are so many toddlers out there who will tolerate nothing but Kraft Mac n Cheese that a lot of restaurants keep boxes of it on hand. I don't see why adults cannot ask for it too... - Denton Gentry
lol @dave is that really what they call it? I am thinking back through the lyrics of...omg YOU'RE RIGHT they call it Kraft Dinner in "If I had a million dollars"!!!!!! - Marco
Ha ha ha, I really don't like chocolate! The only time I could tolerate chocolate was when I was pregnant. - Michelle Martinez
say it ain't so ok now i'm sad ; ) - Marco
@Michelle blasphemy!! - Shey
I know, I know. I have to hear about this all the time from my dark chocolate loving mom. I like white chocolate, surely that should count for something?!? - Michelle Martinez
oh - you like white chocolate - that totally counts - I can't stand dark choc - milk choc followed by white choc is what i love - Marco
I am one of five people on the planet who *loathe* mac-n-cheese. - Roger Benningfield
@roger I am going to block your comment from my memory so that I can go on believing that people inherently desire good things (kidding of course) - Marco
Heh. As a kid, my mom had to force me to eat m-n-c... to me, it was like a plate full of kyptonite Brussels sprouts - Roger Benningfield
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McCain Names Alaska Gov. Palin as Running Mate - America’s Election HQ
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"“Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Governor Palin shares John McCain’s commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush’s failed economic policies — that’s not the change we need, it’s just more of the same,” said spokesman Bill Burton." - Russellreno via Bookmarklet
But, you know, she's a Hockey Mom. - Jason Toney
*screaming inside* why??? - Kamilah Gill
was she at all responsible for the pork re: bridge to nowhere? - anna
@anna according to her speech she told Congress "no thank you" on the bridge - it will be interesting to see questions like these really get vetted in the coming weeks as information surfaces - Marco
I am just WAITING for Bill Clinton to say that people with no foreign policy experience shouldn't be elected Vice President. WAITING. - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
Stunt casting, first thing that pops to mind. - Bluesun 2600 via twhirl
Whoever said she looked like Tina Fey needs bifocals. I'm just saying. - Cyndy
@Cyndy. hah! it depends on the angle :) http://bit.ly/3LgPX5 - ~C4Chaos
Heard that she came in 2nd in the Miss Alaska in 1984. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S... - Bluesun 2600
McCain needs to pick someone that is conservative since most conservatives see him as liberal and only slightly to the right of Obama. - Paul L. McCord Jr.
Re my Bill Clinton comment, Dave Winer went one further. Not only does Palin not have national experience, she doesn't have American experience. (Alaska is kinda weird, you see...) - Ontario Emperor via fftogo
Nice teeth. - Andy C
haha! @ontario - Marco
he wants to drill in her yard. THAT'S what it is! - jeneane is in the house
jeneane FTW, hardcore!! - ::Kristen::
@anna - actually, she is responsible for killing the "bridge to nowhere." She is also playing a large and public role in getting the current corrupt congressional delegation from Alaska kicked out of office. The state GOP had no idea what it was getting itself into when it appointed her head of the state oil commission... - Forrest Cox
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lovelovelove. both my 2 and 4 year old have been to femmes concerts in utero :) - Bec
Bec, you know what that is? That's good parenting right there. :) - Anna Haro
+10 for @bec aka the new dr spock - Marco
I might have to go downstairs and grab that CD for tomorrow's car trip. - Becca
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The shameless pandering for Hillary's supporters is pretty insulting, IMHO. - Eric
As if "pandering" and "ploy" are the exclusive domain of the GOP...politics, by definition, is all about pandering and ploys...especially when it's time to elect a President... - Live4Soccer
I agree Soccer . . . both sides are employing any and all tactics to gain supporters. I just felt like speaking out about this particular one. - Lindsey Smith
Well, I didn't think HRC supporters would actually refuse to vote for Obama, even though McCain as none of their interests in mind, so there is no telling what ploy will work for their votes. - Rahsheen(isSoAwesome)
Why must we assume that choosing Palin is a ploy or tactic to gain Hillary supporters or women voters. That seems more sexist than the idea that she might be the right person for the job. - tsudohnimh
@tsudohnimh The Republicans' timing to be progressive seems a little more than coincidental. I don't have a lot of faith in anyone's ability to have a unique or genuine strategy, either democrat or republican. - Lindsey Smith
I agree that genuineness is not a trait I associate with Politicians but I do think Conservatives have long been more progressive on Race and Sex. Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell. Even on the political spectrum I have opposed affirmative action initiatives because I feel they tell people you aren't good enough to do it on your own. I think Dems have long focused on race/sex too long. I just want the best of best. - tsudohnimh
Some people would find fault with McCain's choice of VP no matter what. Black, young, woman, etc. someone would always say it was pandering to some group. I guess the only choice that McCain could have made that someone would not say he was pandering would be an old, white male. - Michael Tefft
Good point Michael - Lindsey Smith
"latest Republican ploy" kinda says it all. If I were a woman, I think I would only be able to manage a shake of my head and weary sigh at this point. - Michael W. May (Joffi)
I wish more people could see through the veil of the political machine and stop the BLIND allegiance to either party...while we need to have the opposing parties for balance in our system of Government, never forget that at their core, they both are slimy power machines driven by the all mighty $$$....For every Ted Stevens, there's a Donald Riegle. For every John Edwards, there's a Eliot Spitzer. And so on and so on... - Live4Soccer
I totally agree with Tefft & May. - tsudohnimh
It does also need noted that though this is not the first major party female VP candidate, it will be the first /Republican/. Think on how far that is coming. - Michael W. May (Joffi)
@tsudo Your last point was also good . . . i just missed it. @Soccer I would say it looks like I have a blind allegiance to democrats . . . but really their beliefs just align with mine. - Lindsey Smith
I am glad you feel qualified to speak for what women would do Michael. At least there is a woman on the ticket. Democrats rejected a woman as a candidate and refused to choose one for VP. I guess they were afraid that they might be accused of 'pandering' to HRC supporters. - Michael Tefft
heh, I was waiting for that. I can empathize. My life and upbringing make that possible more than most men. So while I do not feel qualified to speak on their behalf, I can quite easily share my thoughts on the matter. - Michael W. May (Joffi)
I still don't whole-heartedly agree that Dems rejected a woman candidate. There was a lot more at play there that we didn't get to hear about. She had a lot of support. - Lindsey Smith
The pick isn't a ploy to pull dem votes. It's a move to grab moderates, independents, and shore up the conservative base. "soccer moms" that listen to limbaugh. There are enough out there to make a difference in a close election (which this is shaping up to be). - Jason Kaneshiro
Either way it goes, this is going to be a historic election. - AlexScoble(Robert'sBro)
So when Obama picked Biden was he pandering to old, white males? BTW, Biden is only 6 years younger than McCain. Where are all the too old jokes? And I agree with AlexScoble that this is going to be a historic election. - Michael Tefft
kick-butt speech... she will do well ... brains - gregory lent
its really a "damned if you do..." situation - he picks a white male its "heh, figures the GOP would pick someone from the boys' club, panderers" he picks a woman its "heh, picking a woman?! panderers" I can understand the distrust but its not like he selected a random woman - she's a popular governor who won by upsetting the establishment in a state that personifies the word, understands energy issues but has ruffled alot of feathers by taking them on - she has a lot to offer - Marco
She is a creationist. - Kamilah Gill
Kamilah: good point, that alone was enough to send me running away. - Sally Church
@Marco true, but what does she offer on abortion? Another staunchly pro-life opinion. Not really the most popular position to have if you're looking for women's votes. - Aaron Krug
@Marco Not to mention Creationist views, and lets not forget her husband works for BP. Can you say 'lobbyist influenced'? Sorry, that's just too much for me to go for. - Aaron Krug
I guess they're hoping some HRC supporters will only vote on gender. I simply don't want Palin *that* close to the Presidency. She's *way* too inexperienced (mayor of a 6,000 pop town just 2 years ago), cozy with big oil and has abused her power. There were other VP picks that I might have disagreed with in principle, but wouldn't have been *scared* of being President. - AJ Kohn
I like how everything the Republicans do is called a "ploy" - Craig Eddy
I've written as much elsewhere, but this entire line of "outraged / insulted" reasoning is misguided. Sarah's pick isn't meant to try to win liberal-leaning female votes. If McCain wanted those, he'd have picked a pro-choice executive with private-sector credentials (he had two at his disposal here - Meg and Carly). This selection was made to shore up the conservative base, which it will... - Forrest Cox
AJ, Way too inexperienced? Sounds like criticism I have heard of Obama. As for Aaron, lobbyist influenced? like Joe Biden isn't? - Michael Tefft
@AJ - so on the basis of political experience, am I right to understand that you'd rather elect a person who's had a very quiet stint in the state legislature and a virtual no-show term in the national senate over a former mayor and current governor with a history of wrecking political establishments? You're walking right into the experience trap Republicans are hoping for - there are ways to attack Palin, but experience is a mistake. - Forrest Cox
Of course, had HRC been the nominee, none of this would have been an issue... - Forrest Cox
Concur, Forrest, we Republicans are a sneaky bunch. ;-) - Michael Tefft
@aaron i'm not sure her husband's role with BP ='s lobbyist influence anymore than if he was instead a supervisor at a GM manufacturing plant - that plus she has done anything but ingratiate herself to the oil interests that are ubiquitous in AK - Marco
Palin has been endorsed by Fishing and Forestry Associations in Alaska. Hardly in BP's pocket. - Michael Tefft
In her first year as governor of Alaska, Palin raised taxes on the oil industry, pushed through ethics legislation amid a burgeoning corruption investigation of Alaska lawmakers, bucked her party’s old guard and ordered her administration to seek fewer congressional earmarks after Alaska’s “bridge to nowhere” became a national symbol of pork-barrel spending. Her popularity soared above 80 percent when she enacted an ethics bill and shelved pork-barrel projects by fellow Republicans. - Michael Tefft
For the record, it is national politics, /everything/ is a ploy - Michael W. May (Joffi) via twhirl
@Michael touche, you've got me on the Biden thing. @Marco I would be saying the same thing if he was a field manager for GM, I don't think either position is free of conflicts of interest. She isn't big oil's fav pick, but she isn't exactly their worst pick either. I'm not saying she hasn't done good things for AK but our views are too far apart on too many things for me to even consider supporting that ticket. Then again, its not like I was in their camp to begin with, so its not like they lost anything. - Aaron Krug
@krug I think the phrase "fortune favors the bold" applies here - this could turn out to be a very, very poor choice BUT if it doesn't... - Marco
@Forrest: Yes because City Council/Mayor/Governor in Alaska does not match State Legislator/Senator from Illinois. Nor does it match Biden's record. She's the least experienced on either ticket by a wide margin. Think of it this way, should Obama and McCain both get hit by a bus ... Biden v. Palin, who do you want in the driver's seat and who do you think wins? - AJ Kohn
@Michael: Ethics. Pressure an official to fire a trooper who's in a custody battle with her sister. Fire that official when he doesn't fire the trooper. Give $10K to the replacement after he resigns because of sexual harassment issues. Oh, but the first official got nothing. No, I'm not sure ethics is a real winning theme for Palin. Stick to pro-life anti-gay and she'll help secure the conservative base. - AJ Kohn
Wasn't going to comment on this but since when does being president of the PTA, excellent point guard, and thinking that the VP job isn't productive qualities for someone a step away from the presidency - Joel Martinez
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agree on that. - Thomas Hawk
I'm with you there, either way we're making history! - Aaron Krug
i thought bill clinton was america's first 'black' president. silly me. lolz - .LAGizmoto
It's not just about making history - it's about setting the world back on the right track - Chris Saad via twhirl
McCain needs to keep the votes from those who would have voted for HRC, had she made it to be the dems candidate, but were moving towards him once the nomination was lost. Not much more information about Palin this side of the pond, but it sounds a bit like a last minute contingency plan to me. - dario
+ - Marco
Just consider: Palin as commander-in-chief. You nervous yet? How about the military brass? - Glenn Batuyong via twhirl
Well-said, Chris. - Matthew Davidson via twhirl
McCain's choice of running mate is obvious pandering to get just that reaction from voters. Palin is a weak candidate, maybe weaker that Quayle who we remember couldn't spell potato or some such ridiculous thing. - Rafael Robayna
half-caucasian. either that, or we can just say he's black (versus *non*-caucasian) like everyone else. sorry, feeling nitpicky today. - Kamilah Gill
Except that Palin is staunchly anti-abortion. What may seem like a win for equality would in effect be a loss for women's rights. Firsts in gender or race may have novelty, but let's not forget there are long term results from our choices here. - Sherard Ewing
Good point. It will be a "change" - Eric_T
For me it's more about what's the right thing to do, who represents the best opportunity for a better America? Who is going to dig us out of the hole Dubya dug so resolutely? That's what gets me excited. It's nothing to do with race, gender, religion or whatever. I'm now an Obamacan because I genuinely believe he will offer this country the best chance right now. - Sally Church
Yep this is shaping up to be a very pivotal election. We're presented with two very different ideas of the "american dream" (yes, it seems we don't all agree on this means) - and how to achieve it. - Jason Kaneshiro
I agree with Chris. It's nice that we're making history, but much more is at stake than history. - Chieze Okoye
It will be interesting for Mcain and his running mate. I mean he doesn't even think women should get paid the same as men. - PC Easy via twhirl
not an Obamacan or a McCainiac, I'm an American - Jeff Quinton
For most jobs in the tech sector, you can't actually do much to guarantee that women will get paid the same as men. Most of the time the people working alongside each other have no idea what the other people are getting paid. And employers should be allowed to base pay on experience and merit. I don't see how you can equalize pay in most non-unionized jobs where there isn't a set pay scale. - AlexScoble(Robert'sBro)
I'm not against the idea of women getting paid the same as men for the same job given that they both have similar experience and performance, but I don't see how this can be effectively regulated in industries where people are salaried. - AlexScoble(Robert'sBro)
I can like that! - JMS
I realized that too -- very cool indeed. - Tamar Weinberg
Exactly what I told my kids over lunch today. Historic and way overdue. - Kevin C. Tofel
There are firsts and there are meaningful firsts -- I'll take the Obama first over the Palin first any day. - Mitch Ratcliffe via twhirl
Couldn't have said it better myself, Chris :) - Mona N.
Palin is a joke conservative so I disagree. Obama needs to win to change this country for the better and for the future - Photo Larry via twhirl
That's exactly what my History teacher said. - OekelWm
I am just hoping that the disgruntled Hillary supporters are not taken in by the "yay, another woman" sham being propagated by McCain. Palin is anti-choice, anti-science (supports creationism in schools and doesn't believe climate change is man-made), anti-wildlife (supports drilling in ANWR, opposed classification of polar bears as endangered, supports hunting from the air - yeah, that's real sporting..) - Marci Maleski
Marci, why take the negative? I'd say she's pro-human survival (against killing our own or protecting animals at the cost of our economy), and pro-not having your opinion ridiculed because someone else's opinion is accepted as a matter of public policy. At least creationism can explain first cause and the origin of matter and energy...and the disappointing shortage of transitional species. - klecu
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