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What's so interesting about friendfeed? =/
Not much anymore since it is very likely on the way out post Facebook acquisition.
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FriendFoo Demo Note http://www.microsoft.com/windows... http://friendfeed.com/static...
And here it is!
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More for the demo
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Moar
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Even Moar
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I got lots of http://simler.com invites to give away, just reply and i will send one to you!. #Simler - http://twitter.com/AvatarX...
hallo, i would like an invite...
- Samuel Balco
replied to you on twitter too
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Like every birthday, I woke up early, had waffles for breakfast and had morning walk. - http://twitter.com/AvatarX...
Happy birthday buddy.
- Mark Krynsky
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Thanks Mark.
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Hello Everyon. Hope all of you had a great weekend. - http://twitter.com/AvatarX...
Same to you my friend, explain you pipe trick?
- Ciro
pipe trick?
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A decade of Blogger. I remember the days of Pyra Labs and the original blogger, Cool to remember back. Happy 10th Anniversary!!! #Blogger - http://twitter.com/AvatarX...
I really hated original Blogger, but you're right, it is nice to remember. =)
- Kelly
i love version 1 and version 2 with its "magic" $tag$ (that is how you rounded them) based templates that allowed so much hacking, modding and tricks. still unrivaled. i wrote a post on them in Bloggeratto and about how version 3 caused the explosion of theming and layout design while causing a implosion in hacks, mods and tricks for 2 years. i am biased since i was behind the concepts...
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Posterous is the way to go!
- Matt Ruiz
Posterous really doesn't even compare to Blogger. Sorry.
- Kelly
Matt was just being funny..
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Good Saturday Everyone - http://twitter.com/AvatarX...
Good Saturday to you, my friend.
- Ciro
Hope you had a good one too ciro
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Friendfeed + Facebook = Friendbook/FaceFeed That means FriendFoo will became FaceFoo? I was just wondering if this means that FriendFoo will then just reach v2 final and that would be it. i guess all depends on facebook reimplementation of their APIs based on Friendfeed and if nothing decent comes in before the year ends. it is very possible that...
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It all depends on what certain squirrel thinks.
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um
- YungSang
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I'm not interested in Friendfeed + Facebook anyway. I will find another. Open Rejaw? or Google Waved Rejaw?
- YungSang
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- YungSang
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Hah. i see from where you are coming from. did you considered the idea of filter scripts for @ coming from twitter?. that would make it all better.
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Just remove posts which has @ at the first from twitter?
- YungSang
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mine?, sure. but how about everyone else?
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you just like giving me stuff to do don't ya?.. i will do that.. i am replying more and more in twitter. I am contributing to the noise problem here for as long that may be (my guess is to the end of the year)
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I hope that it works for you.
- YungSang
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it did
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- YungSang
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:)
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@gwensutton :)
Hey X, heard the twhirl bell.
- Gwen Sutton
twhirl got a bell sound now?
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Had a night walk. unfortunately not a good one since i saw someone get hit by a car. saw it in real time. the drunk was the not at the wheel
- YungSang
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yeah..
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http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i...
Looks like YungSang is crashing on people photos again
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again?
- YungSang
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yeah, there is one of you interrupting a picnic.
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- YungSang
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So you are bragging about it and about that squirrel seem to have photo enthusiasts?
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Noting that FriendFoo is getting slower and hanging on a little when you call for the Post Form. it also denies to post sometimes.
IE8 handling is actually getting faster and better.
Weird
I am IE8 and everything is fast and responsive. while chrome/iron gets slower. will have to check if it has changed a little in firefox 3.5..find it odd but amusing that just like with Rejawoo, FriendFoo is doing better with IE8...
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hmm
- YungSang
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i am of course now in the latest stable dev Iron/Chrome 3 build
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It may depend on a Javascript engine. And a post request still goes through my server.
- YungSang
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I might have to port it to GAE/Python.
- YungSang
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umm nope. Firefox 3.5 continues to be horrible for me.
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but IE8 is now great. no prompts, no hanging, no slowdowns
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no prompts?
- YungSang
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yeah, no javascript prompts at all
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"this script is blah blah, you want it to stop?"
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on default setting?
- YungSang
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no more of those
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That's nice.
- YungSang
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default setting?. the default rendering is standards mode. so yes.
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yeah, what was the bubble shortcut for v2?
- Avatar X
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Did you set something disable?
- YungSang
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want to see if it works as good running from bubbles
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>>16: Already done.
- YungSang
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No, not at all. but the latest updates to IE8 were recently
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in private posts for four of us.
- YungSang
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yeah, what was it?. the link of bubbles?. oh ok. will look for it then
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>>21: I'm wrong. but I gave it to Kelly.
- YungSang
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somewhere
- YungSang
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bubbles://yungsang.com/friendfoo/v2/friendfoo.bblbox
- YungSang
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talked too soon. it gave me a fail when i tried to load a 100+ replies and it prompted me on 50+ replies threads.
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>>26: on Bubbles?
- YungSang
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so it looks like prompts are reserved for big threads.. well. still a improvement. :P
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yeah, same good behaviour but prompts on big threads. as i said.. a good improvement all around even then
- Avatar X
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Yes, it is. The prompt is for a heavy javascript thread.
- YungSang
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>>30: I see.
- YungSang
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but before it prompted a lot more
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IE8 has been updated?
- YungSang
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security updates and comptibility list updates are every month
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Well, i wanted to share this little update.. c-y youngsang. :)
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Anyway it is too difficult to avoid the prompts at this time. Sorry. Or you can set the prompts disable.
- YungSang
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i mean yungsang
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Thanks. cy
- YungSang
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:P
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Plurk should capitalize in FriendFeed user exodus to new services. They only need to either Allow feeds directly or put up a API...
They have an API?
- YungSang
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maybe.. this came from Alvin at Plurk... and someone saw the api.plurk.com link active once
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?
- YungSang
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yeah. btw, what is that?
- YungSang
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That is the Android based HTC Hero that as you can see riffs from Palm Pre a little in style. That is a Plurk Widget and the photo came from someone at Plurk Team. that is why i said that it maybe using the API
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I don't think so. It must be a private API. The internal API for their Ajax has existed from the beginning. What's why I could create the bookmarklet.
- YungSang
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Ah.. i see.
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I compel you all to try out the new and improved FriendFoo
http://yungsang.com/friendf...
mainly a reminder for me and the other rejaw fugees.
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Me likey! (Even if I do get a script error constantly...me still likey!)
- Kelly
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The power of Avatar compels you!
- Kelly
hehehe
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So, there are other lifestream applications which aggregate feeds and allow comments. Profilactic, Storytlr, to name two. Are there others? Are they any good? What would it take for you to migrate to them? Or are we all off to Facebook?
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Which ones are OpenSource? If the FriendFeed software was OpenSource, then that would be a certain guarantee for future freedom, as people would set up alternatives in no time, forcing any provider to play friendly with the users... (not implying FF is not doing that!)
- Egon Willighagen
are we being a bit quick off the mark? do we know for sure that FF is going away? And maybe it will but take awhile and something else will come along in the mean time. Unless I have missed news that says otherwise I am not rushing into anything.
- suelibrarian
It's conceivable, but unlikely, that FF will be maintained. Even just leaving the servers running takes money, staff and time. And very similar services have come (and in some cases, gone) already. I'm not rushing out of here either, but the time will come to look at other options.
- Neil Saunders
I think it's safer to assume right now that FF is not going to continue in it's current form. I agree with Neil, other options need to be explored. I don't want to have to sign into Facebook (an increasingly rare event) to keep in touch with everyone here.
- Daniel Swan
God no. I had nicely partitioned Facebook into being mostly for family and RL friends. Adding the "friends" I have here would just confuse the conversations such as they are. The main issues I have with FB is that the "groups" are so closed. As soon as the news from the groups are enabled into the news streams they will become more active. I mostly inhabit FB to find out what my 17yr old is up to. Increasingly she isnt on there either.
- suelibrarian
It seems unlikely that FF would be maintained - particularly just for us. I'm with Sue, its less the privacy issues that bother me as the mixing of conversations that benefit from being (gently) partitioned. I don't know whether FF might consider open sourcing an earlier version of their code but I don't think anything else really has the functionality. What we do have is the community and critical mass to make it work if we can find the right place...
- Cameron Neylon
Noserub is the main Open Source lifestreaming app that I know of. It is not as feature rich (e.g. no groups at the moment) nor as fast as FF, but you can follow someone's FF from a noserub installation as well as following people from other noserub installations. See http://noserub.com and http://identoo.com for an example of a public installation.
- Matt Leifer
Noserub looks potentially interesting as an open source platform. Would be interested to know what people with web management expertise think of it as a tool?
- Cameron Neylon
Facebook is a big NO for me. Thanks for telling alternatives, I'll surely try them all...
- Marcos Marado
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The gov. agency I work for has been developing a FF-like application for a while now. See my profile at http://me.edu.au/p/nlothian. We do aim to open source it, but that's probably a way off at the moment. But if anyone is looking at trying to develop this from scratch, DM me, because I'd love to try and make something happen.
- Nick Lothian
One problem with noserub is that it is ridiculously slow at the moment, especially if you are used to FriendFeed levels of performance. However, it is the closest to FF of any of the open source social media projects that I know of. Also, the federated approach is definitely something I would like to see in a future FF replacement.
- Matt Leifer
Streamy.
- Meg v. Meg v. 1.0.0.1
Streamy certainly has a better demo video ;)
- JSNFLMNG
Hmm. Streamy looks nice but I just tested it for 10 mins, around 9 of which were spent staring at an unresponsive browser, waiting for my CPU fan to stop howling.
- Neil Saunders
I was playing with http://noserub.com / http://identoo.com some month ago - I think this will be the place to be. Elgg.org might be also an alternative that I will test soon.
- Konrad Förstner
I wonder if elgg is close enough that the community could make it what we want? http://elgg.org/about.php
- Richard Akerman
I have installed both Elgg and noserub. Elgg is not really very close to FF because it is trying to be an all-purpose social networking engine. It is more flexible than noserub but would take quite a lot of coding to turn it into a FF clone.
- Matt Leifer
Maybe AmpliFeeder? http://amplifeeder.com/index... Haven't tried it, and I think it is missing the comments part.
- Endre Sebestyen
@Matt - maybe some plugins could fill the gap http://elgg.org/plugins.php
- Konrad Förstner
Agree that noserub seemed unresponsive, didn't try streamy. But presumably enterprise levels of responsiveness takes enterprise level investment? Please prove me wrong, I'd be delighted.
- Cameron Neylon
Are you talking about http://identoo.com? Works okay for me. The general advantage of the noserub protocol is the fact that it is decentralized so it's scalable http://noserub.com/quick-f...
- Konrad Förstner
Does anyone know how many regular users FF have?
- Ola
I don't think facebook will work for the kind of info sharing we have here. It would be too much noise for existing facebook friends, which tend to be more personal friends and less professional acquaintances, and the personal stuff would be too much noise for our science-focused group here. As most of you know, I am a big fan of the federated approach, but has it improved enough in usability to make it feasible if FF shut down tomorrow?
- Mr. Gunn
I'd be willing to put cash into a pool to pay someone with serious web scaling credibility in this community (Matt Wood? Neil Saunders? there are people out there, I'm just not really sure who is best qualified) to assess the scalability and suitability of Noserub/Elgg or any other appropriate framework to actually work for the general research community and to cost development pathways. I'd really like a professional opinion on the options.
- Cameron Neylon
I'd say Matt is your man for web scaling credibility/development from our community. Today, I find myself hopeful that FF might just be maintained "as is" and we can stop worrying, since Paul writes "I don't want to see it disappear".
- Neil Saunders
I'm hoping that too, Neil, but it just seems like too much of a "buy and bury" move to me.
- Mr. Gunn
I will be interested to see what happens. I've enjoyed FF, but perhaps I'm showing my age by finding the excitement over it (and the anxiety over its removal) to be a little overblown. As a Usenet veteran, I find the lack of threaded comments rather primitive; the feed aggregation is interesting and the Ajax is great, but I'd be surprised if they aren't replicated elsewhere. IMO, worries that the community will dissipate are excessive: communities rise and fall all the time.
- Ian Holmes
Despite my many posts to the contrary, I'm not too concerned either :-) I like FF, I think it's a great demo of how the right technology can enable conversation within/between communities. But it's only a website. There are multiple ways to find people and information - FF is just a particularly effective one.
- Neil Saunders
For me identoo is winning: it lacks "hide" to be a usable replacement, and then lot's of features that will come with time. Being opensource, we can easilly affect its roadmap even if not with code ;-)
- Marcos Marado
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I believe that the FF team honestly wants to keep FF around, but it no longer matters what they want -- and what FaceBook doesn't want is another site that makes them look bad, even if they own it. FF is doomed, mark my words, doomed. Dooooomed. I'm with Cameron, I'd happily contribute to a fund to pay for a professional opinion on how to build and pay for a science-centric FF clone. If...
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- Bill Hooker
what about Google Wave? Will it be replacement of FF?
- Alexey
ReadWriteWeb article on Streamy: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- Walter Jessen
Nick Lothian - I'd be interesting in talking with you about what neds to be built. Cameron Neylon - I know a few things about web scaling and I would be happy to help evaluate frameworks.
- Jordan M
Tons of options out there people http://lifestreamblog.com/create... Covering Lifetreaming services, scripts, and apps has been my passion for over two years. You got questions? I should have answers.
- Mark Krynsky
what? no mention of Lifestream.fm?. shocking.
- Avatar X
You could just add Lists to Facebook just like you do in here and add FF people into that list.
- Manuel Mas
Liking that identoo at least has all the same services.
- Mr. Gunn
Friendfeed Alternatives:
1.-Lifestream.fm (but it is not real-time)
2.-Plurk if it gets a API or Accepts Feeds (it's semi real time and got good search)
3.-Streamy (it is more of a feedly and greader competitor actually than a friendfeed alternative)
Streamy?
- YungSang
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I'd already had it. :p
- YungSang
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heh. not surprised
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I knew that Facebook would end up having to cope with their Twitter Envy and would buy Friendfeed. FF was already showing signs of anemia
hmm
- YungSang
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A certain amount of anemia is not a bad thing in social media IMHO (fewer but better?)...
- Ciro
Yeah. Friendfeed was not growing anywhere but in the U.K for the past 3 months. Not that long ago i said that based on active accounts and registered accounts from Twitter. Friendfeed was already 23 times smallers in registered users and 10 times smaller when it came to active users. I imagine that if i recalculated it for today it would 30 times smaller than twitter for registrations...
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Thanks to Spotify, I am enjoying Echo and the Bunnymen. Good stuff.
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Still can't use Spotify
- Bwana ☠
:(
- Josh Haley
Still have no idea what Spotify is.
- Admiral Anika
Love Spotify, not in the US yet though.
- Jessica Lares
Very jealous Louis- can't wait for a good software music offering (have never liked iTunes). Pleasantly surprised with some of your musical interests (Deadmau5, Underworld, Armin, etc.)
- Alex Calic
Alex, I enjoy great music. Much more here: http://louisgray.com/music/ and here: http://www.last.fm/user...
- Louis Gray
just seeing your music page for the first time... that just rocks- checking out KavaTunes now!
- michael sean wright
Will definitely check it out. I'd add Sander Kleinenberg to the list :p - he's also fun to follow on Twitter
- Alex Calic
How does Louis have access to Spotify if he's in the US? :)
- Travis B. Hartwell
Press Beta, Travis. (2 days in and love it)
- Louis Gray
whatever. I'm fine. NOT AT ALL JEALOUS.
- Call me Bronco
:-)
- Jesse Stay
Dang. I need to write in my blog more so I can to be "press" too. :)
- Travis B. Hartwell
Travis, yes, you should
- Jesse Stay
Louis, it's mean you won't give it to me (even though I'm your wife) because you don't want to hear my music. :-(
- Kristine Gray
LOL - I love that Kristine is on here now :-) Louis, yeah, why won't you let your wife have a copy?
- Jesse Stay
Wait - what type of music do you like, Kristine?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, I don't have invites, otherwise, maybe I would "let her" have one.
- Louis Gray
Doesn't yours, Holden? Oh yeah. :)
- Louis Gray
@spotify is nice, but the name can be confused with @topify, a very useful tool in the Twitterverse.
- Pierre-Philippe Martin
You don't need a invitation. just sign up with a U.K mail address and connect via a U.K vpn and it will work. I am in Mexico and i can use it without any problem and for free of course. There is also a way to use the premium service without paying but that i will not share for obvious reasons.
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I also like the Echo app for Last.FM when you want a more online radio experience. Otherwise i just use my Zune Pass most of the time.
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This is not available in Canada. :-(
- Moobie
Jesse: So what should I write about? :) I've already got an entry in progress doing a pre-release review of Peter Seibel's Coders at Work. What else?
- Travis B. Hartwell
Travis, anything. It's good to just write at least semi-regularly. Speak what's on your mind. I often keep a list so when I don't have something to write about I can refer back to.
- Jesse Stay
My goal is usually at least twice a week, but I should probably still be doing more. Twice a week is sufficient for most, though.
- Jesse Stay
It's really nice...I don't know if I'll continue using it, just because, as you said, I am not a heavy IM user, but, again, it looks really nice. Facebook support seems to be limited to incoming only.
- Ciro
Yeah. that the only downside. you HAVE to be a heavy multi im network user so it is worth it. otherwise Windows Live Messenger + Messenger Plus is all you will need..
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Rejaw would be a year old now, wouldn't it?
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Happy NON-birthday Rejaw!
- Kelly
Tomorrow it will - 6 of august.
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We should send a Tweet to one of the Old Staff about this in OUTRAGE.
- Matt Ruiz
@Matt: or throw eggs at his house if you want :p hah
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w
- YungSang
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I knew it was somewhere around the first week of August.
- Kelly
@Kelly Brown Yes, you got it right.
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Twitter & Plurk are DOWN. More DDOS Attacks?
Oh
- YungSang
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Friendfeed is the only social messaging site up..
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Nice. :p
- YungSang
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the only big one that is.. since it is 1.-Twitter, 2.- Friendfeed, 3.-Plurk..
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Weird. i noted because i loaded them up and the creatures appeared in plurk and in twitter it just gave a "cannot access site" message
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Plurk just recoved
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Twitter is too slow now.
- YungSang
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FriendFoo v2 gives out a 404 or a "That application sent a invalid request" message
works from me but I just sign-in (I'm on genuine Fx3.5.2 which freezes sometimes on FriendFooV2)
- NaHi
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Message sounds OAuth trouble. It should be 401 or 403 but there's a developer who said he gets 404 after revoking OAuth access.
- NaHi
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And now it works again.. maybe it was just a little outage..
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Hello from IE8 + FriendFooV2
- NaHi
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hmm
- YungSang
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Yeah, it sorts out if you log in from another browser and then return back and reload from the browser that could not access.
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Please shout something toward 10,000 until the end of Rejaw.
The Never Ending Rejaw Thread
http://rejaw.com/Avatar...
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I want 10,000.
- ChaCha Fance
http://ff.im/-2MYtG We better hurry
- LouCypher
We are now pass 9000+ with 9125 replies!
- Avatar X
Now at 9500
- Avatar X
I sure do Hope we can do this guys! :)
- Matt Ruiz
Congrats!
- YungSang
Dang...I'm sorry I missed all that. =(
- Kelly
Good Night Walk. Now time to see if i get to sleep or not.
Good night. I have to stay awake for a while. I'm so tired. I'm not tired if I have nothing to do.
- Kelly
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yeah. read you did.
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Test 2: Browser/Windows Testing
Opera 10: Bad rendering, impossible to post. glitchy transitions from home to me to friends. search is impossible = NO GO
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Firefox 3.5: Renders perfectly, transitions are fine. Impossible to post: Not Entirely a Go
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IE8 in Standards Mode: Good Rendering, Good Transitions, perfect posting and searching. only thing is that it triggers Script Warnings sometimes
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IE8 in IE7 Mode: All Good
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Chrome/Iron 3: All Good.
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This are just the quick impression testings
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Faster in Windows 7, Fast in Vista, XP is the one with more problems for some reason.
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Will Test in OpenSuse/Ubuntu in Chrome 3 and Firefox 3.5 for next test.
- Avatar X
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will report later Yungsang
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Thanks a lot. Opera: I know that as same as v1. Firefox 3.5: Hmm. I will figure this out. IE: I got some JavaScript heavy processing warnings as well. I don't know why...
- YungSang
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I can't open the post dialog properly at the first time on my Firefox 3.5.1/Mac with a clean profile, either, as I mentioned at the other entry about Firefox issue.
- YungSang
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But after you install GreaseMonkey and my userscript, you will be able to use it on Firefox, as well.
- YungSang
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Can't we just use it in Bubbles the way we did with Rejawoo?
- Kelly
Give me a few minute. I will create a bubble box for v2.
- YungSang
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testing
- YungSang
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Done. bubbles://yungsang.com/friendfoo/v2/friendfoo.bblbox Copy & paste the above url into the address bar in your browser as always.
- YungSang
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Wow, that was fast. But I am getting a script error and it's not working if I stop the script or not.
- Kelly
Trying again.
- Kelly
Just click 'no'.
- YungSang
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Ok, closed it out and retried it...clicked "no" and it worked. Thanks! XD
- Kelly
You're welcome.
- YungSang
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I am getting that script error each time I leave a thread, or page. =( But I can live with it.
- Kelly
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Hmm..
- YungSang
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Well, it's not EVERY time, but most of the time. Like I said, I can live with it. It's not a big deal.
- Kelly
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I see. That is a good hint for me. I will figure it out. Thanks anyway.
- YungSang
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Well, I will still use it, because I really like your apps. If you get it fixed, then that's great. If not, it's not a big deal. =)
- Kelly
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You are very kind. Thanks.
- YungSang
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I have tested also SSB scenarios.. Bubbles and Prism are a Epic Fail. only way to enjoy FriendFoo v2 right now is via Chrome/Iron 3 as SSB
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Hmm
- YungSang
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Good thing i resisted to invite people to it. we need to give time to implement it in App Engine and resolve its issues
- Avatar X
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I see.
- YungSang
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even testing it in Iron/Chrome 2 portable returns that it is not as fast as with Iron/Chrome 3
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Also figured why the script warnings plague IE8
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Did you? let me know.
- YungSang
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IE8 thinks it is unsafe code since it is running too fast.. The only other applications that caused this in IE8 were TurboJuitter and PubSubHub or whatever its name is.
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TurboJuitter is a Jquery Semi Real Time Twitter search widget
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That app has some issue in IE8?
- YungSang
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it causes the same prompts. Turbojuitter is a tweaked version of the regular juitter.
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Maybe javascript timers conflict ..
- YungSang
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the regular juitter causes the prompts but only after 30 minutes or so of running since it is also ram hungry. it was in the page of the WPC09. in the MSI Wind it caused this issue 30 minutes in.
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others that had high end machines simply reported the ram consume but not prompts.
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maybe.. but i can confirm it is a javascript related behavior more than anything. After all i have access to the biggest and more complex JS app there is.. and there is no issues with IE8 but the very same prompts after you have it running for 50 minutes.
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That app is known as Web Office Apps of course ;)
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Oh I see.
- YungSang
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the MS Ajax mode. the other mode is Silverlight 3 and that is not live entirely
- Avatar X
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Office Web Apps got two modes. the MS Ajax mode and the SL3 mode. and there is not biggest use of Ajax ever than Excel Web. it is better than Zoho or Google Docs. that i assure you.
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Interesting. SL3 mode
- YungSang
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yeah. only got access for less than 24hrs. they are very cautious of it.
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but nevermind. i am sure that the issue is indeed in the javascript behavior and something about IE8 guidelines or something.
- Avatar X
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I understand. Thanks for the report and info.
- YungSang
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in Opera 10 and Firefox 3.5 it is also a issue since when you click post you get the spinner and the spinner never ends loading.
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if you want pictures of that. i can load them here.
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Opera 10, too? Though I've never tested it on Opera.
- YungSang
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ok. let me take those shots. BRB
- Avatar X
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don't need them. thanks.
- YungSang
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I can test by myself on VMWare.
- YungSang
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oh ok. so you know what i mean?. but what the hell already loaded jing and opera.. now you will have them
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But I think that it is not good for Opera anyway.
- YungSang
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Thanks. let me see.
- YungSang
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I knew it about the HTML/CSS rendering.
- YungSang
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both got the never ending spinner thing. you already know the issues in IE8 and IE8(IE7 mode) or IE7 for that matter
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I believe that Firefox javascript rending engine causes that endless loading on a post dialog with a long-polling JSONP.
- YungSang
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but can also load them up. if you want. no problem.
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Yeah. I know the javascript prompts in IE.
- YungSang
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ok. now since i don't want to open another thread. wait a second on this one.
- Avatar X
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?
- YungSang
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Testing something else. shots being uploaded. wait
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ok
- YungSang
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Oh I have never seen this dialog.
- YungSang
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Firefox 3 en ubuntu gets the same prompts that IE8/7 get in Windows. but the post, transitionts and reply work perfectly
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Firefox 3.5 is worse and got all the issues of the firefox 3.5 windows versions plus the ones of opera 10 in windows and the ones of IE8 in windows.
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Firefox 3 on ubuntu is ok execpt the dialog?
- YungSang
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? didn't understand your question.
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i am prepliying from pubuntu ;)
- Avatar X
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Do you mean that firefox 3 on ubuntu is ok except the prompts?
- YungSang
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but firefox 3.5
- YungSang
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>>79: oh! firefox 3? or 3.5?
- YungSang
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Chrome Linux seems fine
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nice
- YungSang
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Chrome on Ubuntu, right?
- YungSang
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yes.
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firefox 3 is fine but got IE like prompts.
- Avatar X
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Firefox 3.5 is worse than in windows. even worse than opera
- Avatar X
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but chrome linux is actually fine... and firefox 3 is mostly fine
- Avatar X
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so whatever that is plaguing Firefox 3.5 must be also something that plagues IE8
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That prompt pic on Firefox is very helpful for debugging . with script line info. Thanks.
- YungSang
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just wanted you to see that i actually do the tests everywhere.
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i know. that is why i wanted you to see it.
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Thanks again.
- YungSang
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mac debugging is of course on your side. :P
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firefox 3.5 in the mac must be also bad
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yeah :)
- YungSang
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oh i forgot about safari 4 in windows.. will add it here later. but in windows Safari and Opera are the very less used browsers.
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But Firefox 3.5 with my usercript is fine and never seen that prompts at all in mac.
- YungSang
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even in linux Opera is already the third browser behind Chrome/Iron Linux.
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quite pathetic..
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hmm
- YungSang
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even safari windows beats opera.. :P
- Avatar X
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sad sad sad.
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I like Safari. anyway time to get a rest.
- YungSang
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Thanks everything as usual.
- YungSang
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ok. well. now you know. My report for the day is done. hope to be helpful
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already tested every combinations from linux to windows to SSB.
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Yeah definitely helpful :)
- YungSang
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ok. c-y then. let me know what happens later.
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yes. but I'm going to have a business trip for a few weeks from this coming Sunday.
- YungSang
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ah ok. good trip and good luck.
- Avatar X
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I will not be able to get a time to test.
- YungSang
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you know where to find me when you get back. :D
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Thanks. When I will be back, I will check everything.
- YungSang
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sure.
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c-y then.
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See you then :)
- YungSang
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and good night.
- YungSang
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It works best for me in Chrome, so that's what I'm using now, because the script errors in Bubbles tend to get on the nerves after a while. It's working perfectly in Chrome on Vista.
- Kelly
Good Friday Everyone.
It's almost over now. But thanks anyway. XD How are you?
- Kelly
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I am and was fine. saw you were not fine. sorry to read that.
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I'm ok, just a little tired and muscles hurt. My spirits are good. =)
- Kelly
good
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Avatar Made myself a eggamuffin with cheese and bacon.
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