And we wonder why all our kids are killing each other? Their breakfast tells them too..lol - Sheryl
@Sheryl, the very act of promoting guns in a many ways, tells kids that its ok to have and use guns. The bloody 2nd amendment needs to be banned. Guns Kill people.. PERIOD. People dont kill PEOPLE ! - Peter Dawson
Be careful, big brother is watching us! CIA, FBI HLS has their consultants all over the Internet! <not joking> - Igor The Troll
just don't put it in the hand luggage :) You will get fried.... - Baard (not bored)
Good point Baard, Airport Control would be wanting a few words I am sure. - Joe Dawson
For a lot of people I know, this would be a hint about what the chef would like for Christmas. - Avdi Grimm
The price is not too bad until I saw the $145.00 shipping. What was I thinking? We know the package is at least 100 lbs. =) - Anthony K Valley
Aren't you in York? Go to the York Barbell factory store. That's where I got mine. - Avdi Grimm
Anthony, $145 shipping? Forget that... I was simply looking at reviews and listed price. :-/ Avdi, your right. Now to find the factory store. - "Czar" DJ Peterman
I notice a lot of parallels between this authors screed on hipsters and a lot of the negative press the tech-set get. Anyone notice the same thing? - Steve Spalding via Bookmarklet
Nihilism, cynicism and irony dressed up in cool clothing. It's not cool to be smart, sensitive or serious. Style masquerades as meaning in a world of surfaces. - melmcbride
I agree. I wonder how many "movements" are just different flavors of the same thing. This might be an extreme case, but I doubt it is -- as the author states -- the end of anything, let alone civilization. - Steve Spalding
While there are some parallels, those same ones can be drawn about any culture with an echo chamber. Those in the chamber are bound to repeat everything that those outside are saying. The problem with the article is the author thinks hipsters should be a "movement", I see the scene as more of a result of the "cool kids" not having anything to rebel against, life is too good and too optimistic for America's current youth. Hipsters are the mainstream sum of all things previously "cool". It's pragmatic really. - xero
Though I have to say, the writing is excellent. - xero
I agree. There is nothing to do so a "movement" forms around basically doing nothing. The writing is excellent but I agree it takes the point a little too far and might draw a few too many broad conclusions. - Steve Spalding
Movement around nothing... Would that make it the Seinfeld of counter-culture? ;) - xero
I agree, that was excellent writing. And Steve, you're right, it does draw broad conclusions, but this is a topic that intrigues me greatly and I liked it a lot because Haddow sheds light on a few things I've also observed. Not just in hipsters, but Gen Y. I don't think some of Haddow's description are unique to just hipsters, I think they also pertain to many other groups in the Gen Y pop. Gen Y is like no other generation we've seen before because he's right when he points out that they are "Less a subculture, the hipster (and I'll argue other groups in Gen Y) is a consumer group – using their capital to purchase empty authenticity and rebellion." And, "The hipster represents the end of Western civilization – a culture so detached and disconnected that it has stopped giving birth to anything new." And you know who is to blame -- their parents - Miiko Mentz
They are the ones who are not only the marketers of the never-ending marketing culture we've created, but they are also the ones who gave birth to this generation and were helicopter parents hovering over these kids and giving into their every whim and giving them every experience and thing that they wanted (and the parents wanted for them). And then there's the other extreme of parents who are so self-absorbed that they didn't give a damn about their kids and left them to fend for themselves, but think that they were there for their kids. And together these kids make up Gen Y...hipsters and others...detached, disconnected and wrapped in empty authenticity. But before you fire off and say that’s a blanket statement. Yes, there are some great kids who came out of Gen Y who are creating some amazing and worthy products, companies, music, art, etc. But there’s a whole lot more who aren’t. - Miiko Mentz
I'm a lot more likely to agree with you Miiko. I happen to live and work in a college town, and if there is anything I've noticed more and more is that there is an almost practiced apathy. Not that apathy is anything new, but in the last 10 years or so it seems to have been refined to a fine point. My biggest complaint about Gen Y/hipsters et al is that they really -should- expect more of themselves. They were born into a world with almost unlimited information and into a socio-economic strata (for the - - Steve Spalding
most part) that gives them the ability to do whatever they want with it. Instead of using this to rise above previous generations, many of them just used it as a way to become more efficiently apathetic. I disagree with the author that this is something new, I just think that society has changed such that we should have moved beyond it. - Steve Spalding
Those of you who can bear it should read Houellebecq's withering novel about the limits of a "me me me" ideology http://www.randomhouse.com/bol... this novel has sometimes been framed (incorrectly) as nihilist. It's not. It's an indictment and a cautionary tale. If anything, one walks away with an accute awareness and aversion to all things that contribute to narcissism. - melmcbride
I'll definitely give it a look. Thanks for the heads up Mel. - Steve Spalding
Anyone who thinks the relevant differences between managed and unmanaged C++ have to do with speed of execution is unfamiliar with the issues. - Avdi Grimm via Alert Thingy
Brilliant. Business losing customers, decides best way to win those customers back is to make fun of them for choosing a competing product/service. Yes, that should go swimmingly. - Pete Brown
Nice catch. Your analysis is so spot on. When will they wake up?!?! - Christian Anderson
"If he scurries adroitly enough -- zigging across the floor of House America to avoid the great boots of media oppobrium, political desertion and financial insolvency, zagging to catch the crumbs that fall from the randomly piled plates of power -- he can one day look forward to similarly corrupting his nemesis: the next young idealist to take a tentative step into the corridors of power." - Avdi Grimm via Bookmarklet