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““friendfeed greasemonkey "read later"is handy tool, but only beef is that it automaticcally mark as "like". link marked "like" is not always likable contents...
yesterday at 11:30 am - via Reshare - Link
You're absolutely right.. I changed this behavior in a later version.. I need to dig a little to find it. - Aviv
@aviv thank you. - huixing
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Cecily Walker posted a link
Om, Sweet Om | Views | TheRoot.com
Om, Sweet Om | Views | TheRoot.com
Monday at 7:32 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
"Anyway, apart from the much-needed relaxation I get from my weekly yoga class, I also see it as a metaphor, a way of kick-starting a vision I have of myself in the years to come, and for my children: In the moment, no matter your age, education, or income, you can stretch and extend yourself long enough, carefully enough and far enough. Repeat, until your fingertips connect to the future and the baton is safely passed." - Cecily Walker via Bookmarklet
and that is true because yoga is really about stretching the nerves so that consciousness flows more smoothly through the whole body - gregory lent
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Cecily Walker posted a link
The Obama Man Crush | Views | TheRoot.com
The Obama Man Crush | Views | TheRoot.com
Monday at 7:34 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
"Why do men as diverse as Colin Powell, Michael Eric Dyson, Andrew Sullivan, Tom Joyner, Ted Kennedy, Bill Richardson, Christopher Hitchens and numerous others, appear to have such a "man crush" on Sen. Obama? The answer: his white-collar masculinity." - Cecily Walker via Bookmarklet
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Robert Scoble posted an entry on Scobleizer's Recent Qik Videos
FriendFeed comments and clustering
Monday at 3:31 pm - Link
more stuff here : - http://friendfeed.com/e/9226b5... - Peter Dawson
and more here http://friendfeed.com/e/edfed2... - Peter Dawson
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very interesting conversation and point Scoble. definitely keep the goal of the product what the user wants. sometimes on friendfeed I ask for recommendations to the general public and other times I want to communicate with just my network. Users just need to be able to define the way they share content on friendfeed. - Randy Ksar
I feel like the first half of this video is right on but I disagree with some of the assumptions, and proposed solutions, in the latter half. As I've said several times, I didn't post the link with the intention that 'only my 5 friends' would discuss it. Because you were involved in the original conversation, that conversation was bubbled up to 16,000 users already, plus however many unique followers the other participants in that conversation brought to the table. Out of all those people, you were the only person I knew, and I wanted to have a conversation with people I knew, and I wanted to share the story, which interested me, rather than the existing conversation, which did not. - Kevin Fox
Not that there was anything *wrong* with the conversation, but it wasn't the content that I wanted to advocate to my own followers. By sharing it, I started a conversation with a much smaller group of people. This is the nature of FriendFeed. From that beginning the audience for that conversation grows organically around the friend circles of those who participated in my conversation. In my case, a control for saying 'don't share this beyond me' or 'don't participate unless you're my friend' is not what I would want. - Kevin Fox
Let's look at this a different way. Say that someone I don't know is going to see the new Batman movie, and he gets some friends to go see it, you (Robert) are a friend of his and are going to see it to, and send out a twitter saying 'Hey, I'm going to go see Batman with Mike'. Now say I read that Twitter and think 'Hey, I'd like to see that movie too, but the only person who I know in that group is Scoble, and I have a bunch of friends who I know want to see the movie. I think I'll get my own group together. So I tell my own friends "I'm going to go see Batman, who wants to come?" and Robert sees this and immediately says to all of my friends 'there's already a group of folks going. They're over here -->' - Kevin Fox
Audience matters. 'FOAFing', the feature of bubbling up the content that your friends have commented on, is a very important element of FriendFeed because it lets you see, via a mutual friend's actions, content that wasn't explicitly shared with you. Just as important is that FOAFing only expands the conversation one degree in any direction. If Robert's friend shares something and Robert comments on it, I can see it (because I'm a friend of Robert's) but if I then comment on the same item it isn't shared with all of my friends, because I'm not friends with the original sharer. - Kevin Fox
If I had merely commented on Michael Markman's original conversation, that conversation would not have bubbled up to my friends because i don't know Michael, and only saw the content because Robert commented on it and I know Robert. This '2-degrees limit' is what keeps FriendFeed discussions from becoming Reddit, Slashdot, or YouTube discussions, keeping both their quality and social relevance high. Without it, consolidation that is advocated as an advantage in this video would mean that there is only one dominant discussion about any topic, it would be filled with comments and replies from people you don't know and have never seen before, and who are removed from the social pressures that currently prevent FriendFeed conversations to devloving into irrelevant flamewars and f1rst p0sts. - Kevin Fox
The model of FriendFeed where superconnectors connect not only people and ideas, but also connect conversations into one big ball, is one that is far, far noisier than what we have today. This is not a good thing. However, this is *not* to say that duplicate content can't be handled better. If, due to my social connections, I can see two different conversations about the new Batman movie, (one centered around my friend Ammy and her social circle and one centered around Robert and his social circle), and Robert can see eight such conversations (Ammy's, because I participated in it and Robert is subscribed to me, one that Robert started himself, and six others from friends of Roberts, but he hasn't participated in) then that's as it should be. - Kevin Fox
I don't need the noise of 6 conversations amidst people I don't know, talking about a movie that my friends are already talking about. And since my mom subscribes to me, but isn't subscribed to you or Ammy, she only sees the one I'm participating in; the one with people she knows, or at least has heard me talk about. As an enemy of noise, I assume you'd agree that it's not optimal for my mom to see all eight conversations by default, and how it would certainly not be optimal for all eight of those conversations to be rolled into one. - Kevin Fox
Now the area for improvement is in how to display those N conversations around the same topic that I *can* see. In my case, I'd like to be able to be aware of and absorb those two conversations aroundt he same topic in a unified fashion, even if some people in one conversation can't see the people in the other. In Robert's case there are 8 conversations, and the need to reduce the clutter becomes even more pressing. - Kevin Fox
Kevin: good points. But we need a way to signal to the world ""I know this is being discussed elsewhere but I am willfully creating a new node so that only my friends can discuss this." clicking that rule should lock out super connectors and should turn of friend-of-a-friend (both should be off for only a day or two so an organic conversation in a micronode can develop first). - Robert Scoble
For those who don't know, Kevin Fox is the designer behind FriendFeed and is one of the best designers that exists in the software industry (he did a ton of Google stuff). - Robert Scoble
We need http://labs.digg.com/swarm for Friendfeed. BINGO! Go find Kevin Rose and get him to kick down the code to the Friendfeed crew. Seriously. - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
The ability to create user groups and filter conversations within a group along with a simple "mute" button would help a great deal - João Almeida via twhirl
Well said, Kevin. Much better than the mess I was trying to get across in the mashable thread about this. - Mark Trapp
Good write up Kevin. I agree with both you AND Scoble. Consolidation of content will inevitably lead to "first" posts. To me, the issue was with Robert saying "We're already talking about this item here:" vs something friendlier like "Also discussed here:" Had he done that, it wouldn't have come across as 'You're doing it wrong'. 'Hide' is ff's best feature and must be promoted as such. - Andrew Smith
...but isn't that what the 'hide' button is for? *added: Andrew, we added our comments at the same time LOL - Mona N
Great minds Mona :) - Andrew Smith
Thanks for the praise, Robert (to which I reply with an 'aww shucks'). The idea of letting people 'block out' superconnector FOAFing is interesting, but would probably be better tackled by a sufficiently smart system, rather than by making a user make the call. If today's discussions are any indication, it would be difficult to relate the purpose of this control to the layuser without diverting them too much from their sharing task. I'm not sure it's even needed though. Everyone who follows you (16,000+ people) has already seen the other conversation because you commented on it. The only people who are learning about the distant conversation for the first time because of your comment are people who are my friends, but who don't follow you. I believe that with your very large following, merely commenting on an item serves to connect your followers with content they would otherwise not have seen. - Kevin Fox
When a superconnector comments on one person's shared item just to say that another person shared the same item on the other side of their social sphere, the *only* people who get access to a conversation they didn't already see are people who are subscribed to me and not to you, and it feels strange when people who follow me-not-you are being diverted by someone they don't follow to a conversation being carried on by other people they don't follow, instead of starting and having a conversation with people they know. - Kevin Fox
...isn't that what the private feed option is for? - Mona N
Kevin: anyone who is a friend of yours is a friend of mine! :-) I also didn't know that FoF feature only goes one level deep. - Robert Scoble
@Robert Scoble (scobleizer): I'd say that one level is enough... Imagine all the star-network arround one person, and then the foaf star-networks generated by every leaf of the first network! That makes things go "fractal". The solution to this IMHO -and I hope Kevin et. al. are listening :)- is the ability (also exposed in the API) to search for entries by URL. - directeur via NoiseRiver
Robert, that FoF is only one layer deep is much easier to notice when you're following less than 200 people. You could do a little experiment and create a FriendFeed acct where you only follow 50 or so people you're really interested in and then compare what you see there vs. your main acct. It would be interesting to know how the experiences were different. - Robert Seidman
directeur , it has to be search by canonical type for the URI . We also get the same URL /URI being seeded by Twitter, Blogs and what not.. RSSmeme does a good job at that !! :)- - Peter Dawson
when is Qik coming to the iPhone? - Rob Fuller
Mona the Private feature is so your boss or co-workers can't spy on you... - Susan Beebe
LOL Susan I would DIE if my boss ever found out I was on FF. I haven't even accepted his FaceBook request! - Mona N
@Peter Dawson (slashpd): Agree! :) But heh, we just have to start from something... I implemented for example "hidding by url" in NoiseRiver just to reduce the noise about redundant posts pointing to the same url. It works fine but how I would like to have the possibility to have -at least- all the entries pointing to the same url! This would offer us the ability to collapse, group and merge comments clusters so easily! - directeur via NoiseRiver
Mona - Just chatted with your boss .... Oh nevermind ... tell you about it later - Charlie Anzman
I follow 490 people including Kevin and Robert. I saw Robert's comment on Kevin's conversation early in that conversation. What I don't understand is how those long conversations disappear in my feed, then randomly reappear. I am following too many people? I really notice this when I go to Best of Day and find long conversation I did not know existed. - Russellreno
Russellreno: I haven't quite figured out that algorithm either, but I think it means that one of your friends has commented on that cluster or liked it. After a while that person stops having "votes" to move the item up, so a new one of your friends has to discover it to move it up to the top of your view. I might be wrong, though, cause I still haven't quite figured it out. - Robert Scoble
Robert, I really like your solution of FF collecting all of the conversations around a piece of content. It would be interesting to see the conversations that popup around a single Google Reader share or Reddit entry. - Bryan Clark
I understand Kevin's point about not wanting to smush together comments from a thread of your friends with other threads from people you don't know. However it seems Like FriendFeed could monitor duplicate shares to help you discover new people you might want to befriend, that they share many items in common with items that you shared or commented on. - Denton Gentry
Kevin, just had a thought. You mentioned that FF is at most friend of a friend. However, with the default list of recommended people to subscribe to, this somewhat defeats the purpose as people like Scoble and Loic now tend towards connecting lots of peeps. - Trebor Elbocs
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mashable posted an entry on Mashable!
Will FriendFeed Forever Be a Niche Service?
Monday at 3:27 pm - Link
I looked at the title and I just knew it was one of Steven's posts! :) - Mark Dykeman
oh oh .. getting to predictable - Steven Hodson
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Liked the piece Steven. I think there's more mainstream potential than you do. Commented on the blog. - Hutch Carpenter
Steven!!! Funny, I just did a Qik video about comment duplication and Kevin Fox stuff and it hits on this big time. FriendFeed needs a new UI. I keep trying to spread it and I keep getting pushback I never got with Twitter. The people who run FriendFeed aren't delivering noise-reducing tools, either, and insist that the noise is good (duplication from one micro-node of friends to another). I don't think they've done research with real users. - Robert Scoble
FF should steal some ideas from Digg on commenting. It should also steal some of Digg's recommendation features. I think an interesting addition would be to have most popular threads and discussions for the global FF network, among other types of recommendations. - Charles Ju
Fragmentation and duplication are serious ills of FF - oh how I wish we could tag a conversation so we could have unified conversations around a topic; but just think how LONG the comment thread would be...wow. Rich convo but too long?! - Susan Beebe
Robert, you "don't think" Kevin's done user research, or you asked him and he told you he didn't? Kevin, what do you say? - Jason Wehmhoener
I agree with Robert, Friendfeed needs a new UI if it wants to go mainstream. Maybe some sort of homepage like the new facebook profile. More noise-reductions tool would be good too. - Alejandro S.
Well, considering most people I talk to still wont use a feed reader, you may be right. I think part of the mainstream problem is that there are so many different services out there and friendfeed can potentially pull all of it together for them. For me, I want to be able to read blog posts, shared google reader items, digg articles, etc right here, I mean heck - there's an awful lot of screen real estate there to the right-hand side....let's have some AJAX-y fetching going on of the actual content. - Rob Neville
I think you're incorrect, Robert: mainstream people are not as interconnected as people are in early adopter communities. I think Kevin's got a point: let's say you remove the early adopter audience. Do you think one person's friends really cares what you, or me, or potentially 50 to 100 strangers think about something? They care about what they're friends are doing. Just look to real world examples: not every social event is open to any stranger coming in off the street. So why would you expect that's wanted online? When you approach people outside of people like us, to try to stay connectd with 100, 500, 1000, or 10,000 people is absurd: how could you possibly interact with that many people substantively on a regular basis? It's dangerous to try to extrapolate user testing out of how we use it. We're abnormal. - Mark Trapp
To my point, I really don't care that 500 other strangers shared a story, or that there were 80 comments with people I don't know talking about it. I care about the people I'm following. I want to have a discussion with people I care about, not strangers. I think the reshare and fragmentation facilitates that. If say, James Ferguson shared a story, I'm interested in that, because it tells me more about him. Even if Mashable or you or whomever picked it up first: that's not interesting in and of itself. The fact that it's a piece of content AND my friend shared it comprises the total value of it. I think what'd be more useful for people is what was talked about a few months ago: prioritization or friend groups, so you can focus on different types of people. You touched a little on that in your Qik video, Robert. - Mark Trapp
well then we need a feature that locks out superconnectors who have, say, more than 50 friends. Or at least locks them out for, say, a day so that a micronode conversation can happen first. - Robert Scoble
I was watching Michael Arington's Stanford Startup School presentation and I think a good point he made was that after your site gets to critical mass, the comments start to become trolly and the community loses its close connection. I can foresee this being a huge problem for FF as it grows. - Charles Ju
Robert, maybe even if there was a way for the content producer to say "Do not allow friend of friend on this post." So, it becomes sorta like an on-demand private feed. You can still see it, but your like and your comment doesn't expose it to 15,000 other people. And of course, there'd be some visual indicator: could even use the lock icon like it does for full private feeds. - Mark Trapp
Mark: point taken...I suppose what I was getting at, although not articulating quite well now that I read it again is that I think the key for taking FF beyond us abnormal folks is to make it a one-stop-shop to remove the confusion of so many social interactivity services and feed readers, etc. I think FF has the capacity to do that with some tweaks. - Rob Neville
I agree with you Robert Neville; I apologize, my response was directed towards Robert Scoble. There's a few assumptions that I think we take for granted that's lost on most people: 1) privacy is an illusion, 2) we're all interconnected, 3) we spend an acceptably large amount of time online. No matter how true those sound to us, for most people, there's a lot of pushback. Which is why, when Facebook goes crazy with the privacy restrictions, we go "what the hell" when the rest of the world goes "thank god." So I think anything that appeals to privacy, close networks, and saving a person's time online is going to go over hugely with mainstream people. I think to ignore one for the sake of another is the wrong way to approach it. - Mark Trapp
I think Kevin (and FF as a whole) is correct in realizing the value of fragmented conversations. The issue here is that super-connectors with 20K subscribers are bound to expose those fragmented conversations (that otherwise would go unnoticed by the masses, as intended) quite often - all they need to do is 'Like' whatever random item that shows up in their feed. Not only that - super-connectors also appear to be mega-likers, which contributes to the "problem". And of course, it doesn't help that new users are being presented with such super-connectors immediately upon sign-up - I don't think it's good in the long-run. - Aviv
Best two lines in this conversation: "We're abnormal" [Mark Trapp] & "we need a feature that locks out superconnectors" [Robert Scoble]. The rest is just noise. :P - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
a more compelling UI would truly elevate FF...but then, that could be said about many Web apps - .LAG
on the contrary, i would much rather have a service that is up and running all the time than a fancy prettified site that is virtually useless. the past few days, facebook has crashed my browser SO many times, the only time i go on is via phone. myspace? every since their overhaul i NEVER go there anymore - Mona N
some of my favorite services are niche! - Ross M Karchner
I actually like the FF interface in its current form. It's lightning fast ( damn facebook is getting irritatingly slower these days ) and its UI is simple much more Googlesque. It's quite unique that its social graph is not bi-directional (like many other social networks), and it gives me tons of useful links and is gradually becoming where i come for personalized information discovery. I agree it needs some UI improvements, for eg; one of my pet peeves is that i cannot restrictively post/comment so that only my friends or Fof can view my posts. That said I see FF going past facebook within a year :) and becoming the most useful social network out there. - Krishna Gade
Friendfeed will go mainstream when the applications that fuel it go mainstream (which might be a while). Whoever mentioned that people don't even get feed readers was right. Even among tech-savvy types (non-web), concepts like RSS and Social Bookmarking are still completely foreign. - Steve Spalding
*sigh* niche tools are so important both digitally and in meatspace - why does everything need to become mainstream to be viewed as a success - the majority of businesses and products in the world would be considered niche and in aggregate far out weight the aggregate of what would be considered mainstream - no disrespect to you steve for writing this post but anytime i see "this will never be mainstream" sentiments i can't help but think that its a myopic view - mike "glemak" dunn
FF depends on a whole lot of users using open services like Twitter Flickr etc. I know no one outside of tech who uses them. Most people are locked into the privacy world view and wouldn't dream of openly sharing their stuff. FF is SV/tech niche only. Sadly......... - Sean Kelly
The well rounded website is the weakest specialist. Why try to be all things to all people with mediocre success? - Geoff Schultz
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Lindsay Donaghe posted a link
Brian Romero: Zero Dollar Bill
Brian Romero: Zero Dollar Bill
Monday at 3:47 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
Is this what we're reduced to? :S - Lindsay Donaghe via Bookmarklet
Can I use this to pay for gas?! - Susan Beebe
Susan: yes, you can get zero gallons for it. - Tudor Bosman
hmmm, according to the NYTimes article about american debt, maybe a -100 bill would be in order, stapled to people's foreheads? - Jason Kaneshiro
Tudor: vapor gas... great - Susan Beebe
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Clay Newton posted a link
Cute Overload! :)
Cute Overload! :)
Cute Overload! :)
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Monday at 12:49 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
It's emokitten! - Clay Newton via Bookmarklet
awwwwwwwwwwww - Anna Haro
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Wut? I haz no Eeerz - Andrew Smith
Holy shit that's cute. - Michael Narciso via NoiseRiver
:) - Russellreno
Aww!!! - Geoff Girardin via twhirl
My dread pirate heart melteded - Dread Pirate PJ via NoiseRiver
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Lindsay Donaghe posted a message
“There should be a standard notation character for stating your account name on a site/service so I'm going to propose one: ~. We have @ for email addresses, but I dont want to have to share a long url to say that have an account on a site. So, for example, I could say bluecockatoo~friendfeed.com.”
Saturday at 9:43 pm - Link
You could pronounce it as "bluecockatoo on friendfeed.com". Anyone who uses a service should know how to look up another user... - Lindsay Donaghe
why not put the whole URL so I can click it? - Robert Scoble
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because there are situations you might want to share when it's not clickable... business cards are my immediate case. And for which I'd like to save space... - Lindsay Donaghe
even then, I found it is safest to put the whole URL. Most people in the world don't know how to use the Internet. - Robert Scoble
I like: "Bluecockatoo on FF"; optionally added URL http://friendfeed.com/bluecock... - Susan Beebe
@Robert, yes that's unfortunate. I hate putting ugly/long urls on business cards though :(. Clutters stuff up. - Lindsay Donaghe
How about Friendfeed: bluecockatoo ? - Andru Edwards
better, how about ff:bluecockatoo - Alemsah
we should make google add this ff: tag ;) - Alemsah
isn't friendfeed.com/spullara the same length? you don't need the http. - Sam Pullara
ff.im/bluecockatoo is short - Aviv
If people don't know what to do with the notation, it's as if you didn't put it on there in the first place. friendfeed.com/username is fine. It's not a new type of way to use the internet: it's still a website. Appeal to what people already know how to use. - Mark Trapp
Well if you're going to make it a pseudo url format that's also machine processable why not use this: http://code.google.com/apis/so... You end up with urls like sgn://friendfeed.com/?ident=spullara To be honest the only advantage this gives over just using the real url is that it's often shorter+cleaner. There isn't a redirector like tinyurl for it though - Adewale Oshineye
This is how I'm handling it on my business cards: my email is @agincourtmedia.com, my FF is friendfeed.agincourtmedia.com, my Flickr is flickr.agincourtmedia.com and so on. It's an easy-to-understand scheme, requires zero invention of convention, and Just Works. - Roger Benningfield
So, Roger, are you setting up redirects or something from your domain for those services? I was thinking about putting up a page that just lists all the services I'm a part of and only putting a link to that on my card instead. - Lindsay Donaghe
Yup... the user is auto-forwarded to the applicable services. I can't argue that it's really better than a "here's where to find me" page (does one less click count?), but I like the transparency of it... I can see saying "hey, check me out at myspace.mydomain.com!" in conversation. - Roger Benningfield
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Fluid: Todd Ditchendorf posted a link
MobileMe window style coming soon to Fluid
July 16 at 11:07 pm - Link
Cool~ - Qing Feng
i call it "metalic olive chic"! - Todd Ditchendorf
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Louis Gray posted a link
“Size Comparison: Twins vs. Electronic Gadgets”
“Size Comparison: Twins vs. Electronic Gadgets”
“Size Comparison: Twins vs. Electronic Gadgets”
Saturday at 9:09 pm - via Reshare - Link
"Yes, it's me, abusing my baby pictures quotient on FriendFeed again. But in case you wanted to get a visual on Sarah's size, here's one item for comparison - the iPod Touch. Also included, Matthew, sleeping next to the iPod Touch, TiVo remote and Blackberry. It's better than using a ruler!" - Louis Gray
Man, the iPhone is so BIG - Aaron Brazell
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LOL LOUIS!!!! - Mona N
This will replace the pencil markings on the wall as a measurement of growth. - Hutch Carpenter
Way too cute! - Nice Fish Films
will there be an unboxing at some point - Allen Stern
The TiVo remote has hardly changed at all in 10 years. - Robert Seidman
WOW, they are SMALL! cool pics!! I love the one with the baby on the couch with 3 devices - Susan Beebe
Okay that's just really damn cute :) - justine
one day these kids are going to say, 'dad used us as props for his gadgets!'...and then there will be blood! lol - .LAG
@.LAG, then I'll remind them how when we parked in what I thought was acceptable shade outside Babies R Us today, they both went nuts, and I had to extract them from their car seats and walk into the store (using the exit), with the pair held tight to my chest, to commiserate with their mother. I'm sure I was quite the sight. "Hey! Look at that guy! He's in over his head!" (fingers pointing) - Louis Gray
Hey! Someone should say you - this is really unhealthy!! : ( - Erhan Erdogan
@Louis - You definitely look in over your head. However, I was that way with only one. Now my children are 21 and 18 and I still remain in over my head. ; ) - Rex Hammock
This made Maryam crack up and say "that's cute!" - Robert Scoble
in terms of Product Design i still think GOD(Evolution) did a better job than jobs ...:-) - Hakim
@Rex, I look in over my head? Definitely? Where's the proof on that? I disagree. :-) - Louis Gray
Maybe good idea to get the RF away from the newborns? Just sayin'. Amazing scale comparison pics though Louis. Thanks for sharing. Now get those radio wave emitting devices away from the generation that will hopefully save us all :) - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
I don't believe you all - Robert, Louis, Maryam, all likes, comments - i urgently need a judge for this photos! : ) Your tech love is get out of control!! - Erhan Erdogan
now let's see the Touch duke it out with the Blackberry - Paulo via twhirl
I'm so going to do this one day when I have one. haha - Daynah
@Erhan and Brian, 1) They're not sleeping with the gadgets in their cribs (yet) and 2) I am not worried about that nonsense. I might as well unplug the microwave and TV while I'm at it, no? - Louis Gray
We always left a computer keyboard in our kids cribs as a toy -- they loved it. - Jay Tannenbaum
The important thing to remember is that if Louis were forced to choose between his children and his gadgets,,,well, I'm sure the kids would find a good home. (JUST KIDDING!) - Ontario Emperor
definitely unplug the tv!! :-) - gregory lent
Yeah, I know I know Louis. I'm just waiting for the time I go to the Dr. to get the "news" after having gone through life carrying 3+ mobiles around in my pocket. It's safe to carry 3+ phones + EVDO + Cradlepoint wifi in my pockets right? - Brian Daniel Eisenberg
@Louis: Yeah...and might as well not have had a kid to begin with...I mean, Radio waves bombard this planet CONSTANTLY...if RF signals are THAT dangerous, none of us should have kids. [/sarcasm] On a more serious note, love the pics...I have one on the way myself...my wife is due 10/21. - Sean McGee
lmao I'm so reporting you for this. Too hilarious - Corvida
Hey guys you have to see this related post... Scoble is competing with Louis' over coolest kid toys! http://friendfeed.com/e/caa0bc... - Susan Beebe
Again with the cute overload! They're so tiny which makes them even more cute! - Candace Holly
OMG! that's priceless! I <3 it! Put the device on vibrate and see what happens! I bet it would sooth any crankiness. Can you say iTunes visualizer? Better than Baby Einstein. Makes us AND them drool into relaxation. My son has gumdrop iMac in his bedroom specifically for that reason (glorified nightlight). Hey! We have to do what we have to do, right? Why not have some fun with it? Hellz ya! - TheMacMommy via twhirl
You know Louis, most parents use a wall and a pencil to show height and growth, you choose electronic equipment, what comes next? comparisons to the wii and ps3? then a macbook, then macbook pro, then dell blade server, where will it end?!!?!? - Allen Stern
Oh what beautiful little souls! I'm sure they are very precious to you :-). - Heather Colman
umm... it's not too heavy on him?! - Orli Yakuel
those photos are really embarassingly sad. Please leave the kids alone. - Claudio Cicali
A coochii coo! They are too cute! Twins are born small but they'll catch up in no time! Congrats! - zoblue
LOL.. awesome pics - Aviv
Not loading for me :( (the pictures) - Bjorn Tipling
apparently Amazon S3 is down - Shey
Total weirdness - the cuteness overload causes the pics to show for me even when S3 is down! It might be just my cache, ofcourse, but I like the first theory better :) - Yuvi
I'll take the electronics when the kids are all grown up. It won't matter to me that the stuff is decades old. - possible248
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“Did FF avatars disappear for you too?”
Sunday at 10:30 am - Link
Amazon S3 is down.. - Aviv
Sucks :/ - Bjorn Tipling
yup - Maryam Ardakani
yep - Papak
yeah - Nima Akbarpour
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Q: Setting User-Agent Field? - comp.lang.java | Google Groups
July 18 at 1:50 am - via Bookmarklet - Link
"I have a web robot which is a Java app. I need to be able to set the User-Agent field in the HTTP header in order to be a good net citizen (so people know who is accessing their server). Anyone have any ideas? ... Thanks, Larry Page" - Jan 7, 1996 - Paul Buchheit via Bookmarklet
Is that for realz? - Yuvi
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Yes, it's from the very beginning. Here is Google's history: http://www.google.com/corporat... - Paul Buchheit
I dug up this page because I was thinking about http://friendfeed.com/e/026800... - Paul Buchheit
wow. In the beginning, God created.. Google. - Tim Hoeck via NoiseRiver
Ironic that there still isn't a very good solution to that without 3rd party libraries.. (ie, the system property solution works, but affect the entire JVM which is less than ideal. You can manually set the header, but you'd think this would be solved properly by now) - Nick Lothian
@Nick - you mean, YOU CAN'T SET USERAGENT IN JAVA? :O - Yuvi
@Yuvi - no, I mean it's a lot less convenient than it should be in a platform that's been around for over10 years (which I guess relates to Paul's thing abotu how long it takes software to get good). - Nick Lothian
placeholder comment so @jasoncarreira can take a gander. - Cyndy
@Nick - yup, pretty much any time you need to do HTTP in Java, you should start with HttpClient rather than Java's HttpUrlConnection :) - Patrick Lightbody
Who does things without 3rd party libraries (and why would you)? - Jason Carreira
@Nick - my point, pretty much. In most languages I've used, it's a single line change affecting a single instance.... - Yuvi
@Patrick - yes. @Jason - well there are some cases where you don't want to introduce additional dependencies, or you have clashes in dependencies. In this case it's pretty clear the correct answer is "use HttpClient", but I think that it's sad these simple use cases haven't been fixed. They did fix timeouts, so you can set them per connection in JDK 6 (or 5?), but not the user agent thing. - Nick Lothian
The JDK (especially in its older parts) is full of this sort of global variable disease. The "platform default charset" is my favorite (to hate), though at least most things give you a way to specify an alternate charset. - Laurence Gonsalves
so this whole time the Java/1.0beta2 bot hitting my servers has been google? - Nik Cubrilovic
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Lego Sushi @ Flickr: "Big Daddy" Nelson's Photostream
Lego Sushi @ Flickr: "Big Daddy" Nelson's Photostream
Lego Sushi @ Flickr: "Big Daddy" Nelson's Photostream
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July 17 at 2:45 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
No crunch roll? FAIL - Michael Narciso via NoiseRiver
Cute! Here's some fabric sushi from my family's 5/21/08 visit to Japan http://friendfeed.com/e/4dbe13... - Mitchell Tsai
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yum? impressive salmon roe - Cee Bee
No but seriously that is really cool. - Michael Narciso via NoiseRiver
When you expand, there's a multi one.. ALL SORTSA WIN! - Mona N
LOL I just noticed the wasabi that is awesome. I love legos! I'm going to buy some next weekend. - Michael Narciso via NoiseRiver
Mmmmmm... sounds yummy. - l0ckergn0me
his entire stream if PHENOMENAL - Mona N
mmm. sushi....... - Connor P Jackson via twhirl
that wasabi is the raddest thing i've ever seen - Mona N
i'm getting hungry, were\s my lego - Naor
ok, that solves what I'm having for dinner tonight (no, not lego)... - Trent Olson
when i was 4 i had a Lego stuck up my nose and my mom took me to the hospital.. the only time i've ever been hospitalized =\ - Mona N
sounds like you tried to eat a bowl of lego :) - Naor
I was actually sniffing every piece to see how it'd smell. Lego = my crack - Mona N
:o .. each of us and his own kick :) - Naor
Mona, that wasabi! LOL - Kenichi Matsumoto
It's like Jabba the Hut LOL - Mona N
Jabba the, bwahahaha! I didn't think of that:) - Kenichi Matsumoto
I love the little tail on the shrimp! (there's a better angle for it if you click through) - Shannon Jiménez
this entire set is AMAZING. every angle is perfection. ie: http://www.flickr.com/photos/b... - Mona N
Okay... Now I feel like I need to bust out my LEGOs and make me some sushi... - Ross Miller
I think this guy is like a Lego artist or something.. I cna't get off his Flickr stream - Mona N
Feels so 8 bit :D - Mo Kargas
Seriuosly, I'm in awe. I've never seen anything like this before. Thumbnails and up close, his pieces are insane - Mona N
where's the tataki-seared Tuna legos? - Iain Baker
and no tartar! BLASPHEMY - Mona N
*cry* So hungry. Sushi so expensive in Bristol. - Natali Fisher
please do not eat. ;) - funkyboy via Posty
Now I'm hungry for Sushi and thirsty for Sake, thanks a lot. (not lego sushi/sake tho) - Geoff Schultz
I'll have a spider roll, please. - Bren
must not eat lego make me hunger... stick to star wars Vader doesn't look as tasty... LOL - Cecil Sandus
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July 17 at 4:55 pm - via Bookmarklet - Link
pressflip launches. interesting logo - David Vasileff via Bookmarklet
Smart name - mainstreamish, just like the logo. - Aviv
Patrick Gray freelanced this for us. We're shooting for the mainstream appeal. - pressflip
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