While the Alexa numbers are not accurate in absolute terms, it is true that Turkey is now officially the largest source of traffic for FriendFeed by all metrics (unique users and page views)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
@Bret, tell us approx. # of ff users from Turkey :)
- Serkan Ünsal
auto-translate (server side) is the next killer feature - translations aren't always perfect i know, but it's better than nothing (or learning all the other languages)
- Chris Heath
Please just keep FriendFeed up, don't let it die. This is absolutely the best thing you can do for Turkey.
- Ahmet Alp Balkan
Dear Bret, I couldn't get my pay check this month. Is there a problem or something else? Looking forward to hear from ya. Love, another turkish user keeps INTERNETS alive.
- Bahriye
I read an article about Turkey in Psychology Today recently. It seems the population in general is very forward-looking and eager to prove their modernity to the rest of the world. Like :).
- LANjackal
bret gardaş biz olmasag FF batardı ha. Bizede bi sakal atarsın artıgın feysin verdiği manilerle ?
- Çağatay " SKYLAB " Şama
Kıymetimizi bil Bret, biz sana bazen kızıyoruz ama senin iyiliğin için onlar. FB'deki sarışın oğlana tiggat et, iyi şeyler duymuyorum onunla ilgili.
- mcd
Funny how some countries just take over some social networking sites. Like Orkut in Brazil and FriendFeed in Turkey.
- Gabe
we are a veeeeeeery communicative nation, that is all:) and we love sharing:)
- Neşe
ah bi de konuşsan neler söyleyecen ama, tek laf yok. teşekkürler de Alah razı olsun de, milletçe bir tepki koyduk mu facebook geri satar valla....
- Serbay Arda Ayzit
FYI and as a side-note to my earlier comment about translation; gmail offered to translate Serbay's recent comment as it came through my email notifications... here's the turkish > english translation: "What you talking ah bi de söyleyecen, but not a single word. Thank you also get consent Alah, the nation do we put a response back to facebook sells valla ...." --- i'm guessing there's...
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- Chris Heath
@chris :) please do not use google translate, it makes a horrifying translation, probably because the Turkish syntax is very different than English. Yet, it is very true that there was a lot of slang in Serbay's comment, no translator algorhythm would solve:) he simply was commenting on the fact that Bret did not really say anything about or commented on the situation, he just presented it:) apperantly serbay was expecting a thank at least, on behalf of Turkey:)
- Neşe
Bret, come visit turkey and we will show you the best food around :) and also you might find some really good tech startups. ps. did you know every startup in turkey has a belly dancer ? it help keeping the spirits up :)
- denizoktar
Neşe, thanks for the summary. And I did notice the poor quality of the translation, and that is part of why I posted it. I just found it cool that the option was right there in my email. Google noticed that the language was not english, realized that it was turkish, and then offered to translate it for me all in one simple click. With these types of features and capabilities that we...
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- Chris Heath
Today at lunch at Facebook, a good friend reconfirmed Turkey is still in top 10 countries globally for Facebook
- Aydin Senkut
Turkey is the biggest user of FriendFeed on the planet ;)
- Orlando Pozo
Indeed, that's sad. Turkey has one of the greatest social web consumer market in the world, and still we got no producers, and no products. Just consuming, and that sucks. Turks always cheer up when they are in some top 10 list, but that doesn't change the fact we are still far away from building a FriendFeed-like site. I don't mean we are just consumer idiots, there are brilliant...
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- deerstep
turkey is huge for us too.. but.. the female to male ratio from turkey is like 1/100 :( through turkish men seem quite motivated, using translators to talk in any language
- t toring
Well, half of the population in Turkey is under 25 years, so yes... Turkish men is quite motivated :) Since Mahir, Internet is the most convenient method to find a partner in Turkey :D
- deerstep
the issue though is that turkish women participate WAY less resulting in an imbalance. i havent run the numbers but i can safely assume 95% of the turkish traffic is male. is this typical?
- t toring
No, it is not typical. I guess the ratio is almost 50/50. You can safely assume that you were heading to a gay bar :)
- deerstep
umm... well no because browsing around clearly the turkish men are not engaging with other males but women from other countries. when i say "assume" i mean without running reports.. simply browsing around.. so its not really an assumption. just like when u walk into a bar you can tell whether its frequented by a particular kind of people, you dont need to actually do a count or survey
- t toring
In touristic places that's probably typical in any country: Local people engage with people from other countries, but in general... don't think so. Maybe you should spend some 2-3 months in Istanbul if you want to understand how Turkish men engage.
- deerstep
Onur i think you misunderstood.. i am talking about the traffic on a site i run..
- t toring
Onur seems quite motivated to convince you ahah
- Fikret
Toring, ah I see, but it is not typical even on a web-site. For example, Turkish User profile on FriendFeed is quite different from what you assume. And Turkish users on Myspace are quite different than here, and it goes ... From your assumptions I can tell, you are running a dating site which is popular among Turkish men, but not women.
- deerstep
well, most of turkish ff users are not able to reach to friendfeed from this afternoon bret :) we do not know the reason yet, but i can tell it is an isp related problem. we (i) use tunnels or ultrasurf kinda patchs to reach friendfeed atm.
- Bahriye
Me too. Yet there's something to it. Often when a security drops in value it's because volume of *new* sell orders was greater than the volume of *new* buy orders. The difference was made up by buyers already willing to buy, either existing limit orders or market makers, or by opportunistic buying attracted by the lower price. The sellers were the more proactive.
- Ethan Herdrick
I am looking forward to playing board games on the iPad while travelling with Karen. This is the first device I can really picture two people using at the same time, which seems like an opportunity for some truly new types of software.
With mice and keyboard, two people at the same time on the same device doesn't really work well. Touch screen seems like a really cool opportunity.
- Bret Taylor
I thought to myself I could have used this when I would play chess with my little brother, and he would get mad and sweep the pieces off the board. I figured it'd be pretty difficult to do that with an iPad. Then I realized what he could have done to the iPad...
- MiniMage, enterRUPPted
Yeah - I keep thinking of how popular this is going to be on road trips with the family
- Jesse Stay
Taking turns. Like handing a crossword puzzle or magazine back and forth. Plus a swipe for changing posting accounts.
- Hayes Haugen
You're going to drive that accelerometer nuts with two people, you know that don't you? :)
- JCunwired
SMART idea - that's why I like you - out of the box - excellent eye for various use cases - neat! The iPad has a lot of potential. I have been wanting what I call an iCouch tablet for web viewing, this i really great. I can't wait till i get one!
- Susan Beebe
Nathalie, air hockey was my first thought when they said it worked with two people. That would be cool.
- Todd Hoff
Wow that's true- I didn't really get the iPad until I thought of 2-player games. Now to develop Catan for the iPad.
- anna sauce
Todd and Nathalie, an air-hockey type game (maybe more like Pong) is what people are playing in the photo I linked to in my previous comment. I sympathize with whoever the manufacturer is, in that the perception is that it doesn't exist until Apple ships it.
- Bruce Lewis
Hey I want an I pad, but they said the 3g version isn't available till April, mmmm. How can I get one sooner???
- amelia arapoff
I have to admit it's a wee bit more portable than Microsoft's Big Ass Table™
- Richard Walker
Never thought of this possibility. For the first time I can begin to see myself possibly even buying one - assuming the software is there to make it worthwhile.
- Andrew Perry
Share option of friend-feed cost me a call from my wife yelling at me "who the hell is this Karen you are playing with on the train to work? I am gonna kill you both!" She simply saw it on my facebook feed never realized it is a FW. (http://friendfeed.com/tzury...) LOL
- Tzury Bar Yochay
not sure about this, the form factor may still be too small to be comfortable for two players simultaneously looking at it, or touching it. Now with blue tooth connexion between two iPads, I would see lots of opportunities for boardgames, including games where each player need to keep some information secret (his hand of cards usually).
- Antoine Bertier
Hmm nice idea. Checkers, Domino, Backgammon would be all excellent
- Özkan Altuner
I just downloaded SDK and am working with another programmer on the Catan version. Bret you inspired me!
- anna sauce
Dwarfing even the 5,195 piece Millennium Falcon, comes LEGO's newest, and largest, set ever: The Taj Mahal. Weighing in at 5,922 pieces, the $300 set ships mid September. But the thing that gets me is that it's only 20" wide and 16" tall. That's not very big.
- τorƍue
from Bookmarklet
That is *exactly* why FF will become more mainstream than twitter.. try explaining how to tweet to your parents (who are finally comfortable with email)!
- Chris Myles
I think abdellah's original comment was asking why the couple WASN'T same-sex.
- Brian Chang
so please take note of the following, first it wasn't intended to be homophobic I was just to make a point that not all couple are hetero, second point accusing my comment beeing homophobic without refrefing to me in dm or something else is abusive.
- abdellah
@brian you get it, but what can I say, I think that some jump to earlier to conclusion, @bret hope that as you deleted my comment you will edit or delete your owns refering to me as some one who make homophob comment thank you.
- abdellah
I agree, it is awesome! (not biased, whatsoever)
- Jeanette Bosman
@Erica!! really all what I saay was "why the pic wasn't a pic of a homo couple a man and man) damn FF is too masculin to be shown as women that all, for me there is nothing homophob in my sentence, but accusing me beeing homophob is really sad. but now I have to ask a question is it homophob to replace the pic above by a pic showing a homo couple, this is really sad, for me it is the...
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- abdellah
abdellah, if you don't mind my asking, is English your first language? I think part of what may have caused the misunderstanding is that, at least in the parts of the United States where I have lived, the term "homo" is almost always used in a derogatory sense.
- Brian Chang
ha ok, yes english is my 2 language, homo is a french terms= gay, there is nothing degratory in saying homosexual.
- abdellah
Told you it was a misunderstanding...LOL
- Rah-PM 2012
I've been dying for FB to drink some of the FF cool aid!! Let's hope the integration or technology transfer goes smoothly. Can't wait to see what comes out of it. I think it is a testament to the FB team that they saw and appreciated the same power off FF we all did.
- Phil Ashman
We've been acquired by Facebook! We are really excited about joining the Facebook team. (Note: FriendFeed will continue to operate - see the blog post for details)
- Bret Taylor
from Bookmarklet
"FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being. We're still figuring out our longer-term plans for the product with the Facebook team." Those are NOT encouraging things to read as a FF user.
- S of 2C
Sniff... not sure if I'm excited about this. But I have enormous respect for the FriendFeed team... so, I assume they believe in the move as more than an exit strategy.
- Michael Leggett
Coolest web 2.0 site I've ever seen & used. I hope things don't derail. Ads will be coming soon, which is fine, but.... then what 's next? Please no quizzes!
- Ben Hanten
Who would have thought that after Facebook were shamelessly being "inspired" by FriendFeed, the inevitable would have happened?
- Tyson Key
Hey guys, keep in mind that Facebook is blocked in workplaces across the nation. 250 million casual users commenting about last night's party does not intelligent conversation make.
- Hector
yes you have just failed at failing, no it is not a double negative.
- Bahriye
I really can't see how FB would buy FF only to shut it down. There are way too many innovations and features FF has that FB honestly needs. I'm looking forward.
- Harry Wolff
Oh, this does not make me happy. Not at all! I've stayed off of Facebook intentionally and FriendFeed is my favorite social network. This is like when the Red Sox traded Babe Ruth to the Yankees. :>(
- Larry Hawes
i have stopped using FB for the most part and liked FF alot more. now FF will go the way of FB. screwed again.
- Joe The Sausage
Berge Gazen beat your score in Mafia Wars
- Berge Gazen
Enjoy your fat paychecks, guys. You've sold us out.
- Akiva
Bravo Bret! Been following your successes ever since we had the opportunity to work together on the YellowPages.ca / Google Maps Canada deal. Congrats!
- Sebastien
I wished it was Google or even Yahoo!, instead...
- Tyson Key
i really hope ff stays as it is. fb is kinder carder while ff is a great tool.
- jkkmobile
Not sure what to make of this. It could eiter be a big win or a huge fail.
- dorn
It could have been Microsoft, which would have been worse for everyone. :(
- Tyson Key
Can I take this opportunity to say I HATE facebook?
- Alex Scrivener
seems the only ppl happy here are the ones in the biz or who stand to profit from the merger.
- Joe The Sausage
I guess we should get ready to get poked by our supposed friends and have various shit thrown at us? Plus 5,000 requests by apps that nearly all suck.
- Joey Gibson
Painful. And apparently I completely misunderstood what FF was trying to accomplish both technically and as an organization. I guess Facebook must have dangled a pretty big bag of money in front of them.
- Ken Sheppardson
FriendFeed is Dead! Long Live FriendFeed! :/
- Tyson Key
I will reserve judgement, i don't like or use FB but if FF maintains it's current goodness i don't care who cuts the checks.
- SteVe C
I hope this doesn't turn into an APP filled hunk of crap. I love FriendFeed, it was the untouched gem of microblogging. I don't want Mafia Wars invited in my FriendFeed!!! Congrats on the sale though.
- Jay 'Farmington'
@Philipp: until the new masters start flexing their muscles and bringing in their own people to enforce their own vision.
- Joe The Sausage
I read the blog post and one statement stands out to me "FriendFeed.com will continue to operate normally for the time being." The time being. This is not just bad, I think it may be #FAIL
- berchman
Facebook obviously liked FriendFeed a long time ago. Why would they have copied so many features (feed item comments and the "Like" action, to name a couple) otherwise? It was only logical for this to happen eventually. Doesn't mean I like it, but acquisition is part of the game. I have the same feeling I did when SocialThing! was acquired by AOL, though.
- dgw
"Relationship Status: It's complicated" comes to mind. ;)
- Tyson Key
Wow, I finally sign up, and read this. This could end up being a very bad thing for FF fans: "Your FriendFeed friend just signed up on this poll, would you like to too?"
- Brian Bommarito
Does this mean that we'll be seeing an influx of webcam spammers, a la Twitter? Along with abolishment of the rooms feature, crappification of the search feature, and more "privacy features" that really just put more nails in the openness coffin?
- Tyson Key
Some people will do whatever their friends request........
- Michael Muller
I really don't see why people would be anything but excited about this Facebook freindfeed deal. Great news as far as I am concerned. The Friend feed team is going to go over facebook and make it that much easier to connect, share... isn't that what the social web is about?
- Kevin Murray
I know a lot of people who use Facebook and enjoy it and that's fair enough. It's just not my cup of tea. The chaps from Friendfeed will get rich and the technology will get absorbed in Facebook but I can't see Friendfeed continuing in anything like it's present form.
- Paul Nash
Don't be so negative, something good might eventually come of this...
- Tarmo Aidantausta
Congrats! I know you all must be crazy excited right now.
- Michele Lorito-Chase
chance for FriendFeed to become more mainstream... congrats FriendFeed team!
- Jeroen De Miranda
Nothing could make me happier than if they integrated the good tools from FriendFeed into Facebook, which is where all my friends are. So a big "yay!" from me.
- Ian Betteridge
happy for you guys, but not for all of us
- Flavio
congratulations. this is going to be interesting.
- Dave Beckett
I think I preferred the non-mainstream version of FriendFeed...
- Tyson Key
I'm turning on my black shirt, my black trouser, my black socks, my black shoes. Although I probably must be happy for you.
- Ton Zijp
NASTY NASTY BAD BAD. But we'll see...
- Daniel Morgan
I don't know, Like it? or dislike it?
- Ömer Balamir
What happens to all the content that we've created and imported here, and the associated metadata? Will all that disappear into the ether?
- Tyson Key
If the FriendFeed guys can make FaceBook useful and responsive again, this seems like a pretty positive step!
- Robin Barooah
I have big loss of data concerns. See http://ff.im/6pHjo Is there any way to archive all my FriendFeed posts, likes, comments, and pictures (friendfeed-media.com) off-line? Can some Archive.org-like snapshots of FriendFeed be made (Once a month starting Sept 2009)? I'd like to see the cross-links between my posts & other people's posts, even in 2020. -
- Mitchell Tsai
Mitchell: the FriendFeed site is not shutting down. Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users.
- Bret Taylor
I just overheard a coworker mention FriendFeed. This is how the world ends...
- CannonGod
Then provide us with a way to easily make a back-up of all of our posts and all of the posts we have Liked and Commented on.
- Akiva
Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want it to be handed off to Facebook.
- zio bonino
I don't see good things coming from this. Although I like Facebook, I liked Friendfeed more. Partly because of the environment and the smallness of it. That is now going to be ruined. So, 10-1 odds that Friendfeed will be no more within a year after it gets intergrated into Facebook?
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
I doubt it Robin. Bret can only give us assurances about the "near future." Here's what I think will happen. Just like Twitter acquired Rael Dornfest and his awesome web services, Stikkit and I Want Sandy vanished (and so did he), Facebook will acquire all the talent from Friendfeed, shut this service down and Facebook will continue to suck.
- Vicarbott
Same question as Mitchel Tsai. How do I export my data? I don't want anything to be handed off to Facebook. And I don't want to lose anything.
- zio bonino
Congrats obviously, but im not sure about the feeling,, different user groups which can not integrate but collide.. hope there wont be an huge integration in the future.
- Yunus Tunak
I'm happy for FriendFeed! But, at the same time a bit worried about the future. Hope you guys convince FB to not be evil too.
- Vishal Verma
I can't believe it! damn! facebook tos will apply to friendfeed too? should i start to move to another service? why anyone would think that facebook public is friendfeed public?! damn! friedfeed was my favorite! I can't understand this move! they want to kill friendfeed or what?
- paula simoes ☃
"I bet I can find 1.000.0000 people who dislike this deal."...Welcome to FriendBook.
- Jacque
Well, huge congraulations to you and your team, you deserve every success. To be honest I had presumed this would happen sooner or later - the only business model cool little startups have is to hope they get bought by someone bigger for their brains and technology. I'm going to be in San Francisco in a couple of weeks and was going to stop by your office to bring you a cake and thank you for a great product - maybe I still will if you're still there and there's still a FriendFeed!
- Alex Lomas
"Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users" There's a bit of a contradiction in your statement, Bret. Nice try though.
- JCunwired
Grats Bret and the rest of FF. To all the naysayers... Lets see what happens before we start bitching....
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Just great. I'm certainly not very happy about this. Let's just hope FB doesn't ruin FF. Ugh.
- axolote
Who cares? Nothing's gonna change in our pitiful lifes.
- bluretina
This ties in nicely with the fact that you soon will have the opportunity to make your Facebook profiles public and get followers there.
- Michael Netsch
I don't mean to be negative but there's got to be a win-win logic to each merger&acquisiton. Audience high in only quantity is clearly not a win for friendfeed in the long term by considering its unique selling points. Let's wait and see who will benefit from friendfeed's death now.
- ayca
Seriously, what is this? It's like Bret just announced that he's killed all your mothers or something. It could turn out good, it could turn out bad, but at the end of the day, who cares, it's just a website (I mean honestly, come on). I could see it going either way, but in the near term, this is a pretty big win for the FF team, so congrats guys.
- Chieze Okoye
To be honest, my heart sank a little but I am happy to congratulate you and the team for building such a good brand. Well done.
- Kevin J Hatton
Wow, I specifically use friendfeed b/c it is not facebook. Sounds great for the friendfeed team, but not necessarily for friendfeed users.
- Evan Parker
Born to be sold, like in the old "new economy" era. Remember the late nineties?
- Federico Bolsoman
Sudden desire to check out Strands again... but hey, kudos on the incoming $$ for FF team
- Leslie Poston
This is wisdom. Bracing for Google Wave is a good idea.............
- Kevin J Hatton
this is clearly a talent aquisition... why am i not excited about this? could it be because facebook has been blatantly stealing features from friendfeed shamelessly. Likes were clearly not an original facebook idea...realtime feeds is another i could go on...
- Tate
While I'm sad, because I suspect this means the best things about FF will disappear or I'll be forced to use FB in some way, if the buyout was for some awesome amount of money, I can't say I blame 'em for taking an offer -- I would.
- Andy Bakun
I came to FriendFeed because I don't like facebook. Now the question is, will facebook become more like friend feed? or will they just take friend feed and turn it into facebook?
- Tom Ray
FF could be a good R&D arm for facebook.
- Andy Bakun
Fucking morons. FriendFeed is doomed now. Think logically. Facebook has NO REASON to keep FriendFeed alive. It will simply take FF's best features, suck the life of out of it, then trash FF. Way to go, FirnedFeed, damn.
- Jeremy Buff
This announcement should have been held off until the plans for Friendfeed were known. Regardless, this is *bad* for FF users. Best case: it continues on, but with stagnated feature development. Worst case: it's gone.
- tollie williams
I don't want my FF feed on Facebook :( I use both, but maintain both profiles separate
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
Sigh... Happy for the team if this is what they want, but baffled by the move. The users that are going to leave because of this will make FF a graveyard and the users it gains, well... Hello spam? Sorry, but I don't like it.
- Vince DeGeorge
from iPhone
Dang, and just as I was starting to get used to how FF works. FF is useful on it's own. I hope this only improves FF's system, rather than having it disappear into Facebook's wake.
- Don Faulkner
My big question to everybody here is this: What are the potential downsides / upsides to this acquisition? I mean on paper I just don't see what the pros OR cons are. I don't care for Facebook but I don't see how them acquiring FF is going to change everything.
- Nicholas Kreidberg
furthermore they are 2 different things: I follow a lot of people here that are not in my facebook list, which is for IRL friends!
- Flavio
I don't know where to go next either. I had just settled down to make imaginary friends for all my non-FF tweeps, etc. now, I'm not sure if I should bother.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
I hope friendfeed continues to operate normally but it does not look good.
- Ashish
integrate best features of ff to fb, then try to innovate in fb if possible, then kill ff... that's it, cheers, all the best. grrrr...
- Kemal Y.
niczak has good points. FF & FB aren't exactly competitors, but they aren't orthogonal either. Let's hope FB's smart enough to see the difference and improve both platforms.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Nicholas: The upside for Facebook is they just bought an engineering team that's built many of the feature's Facebook's going to need to stay competitive. The upside for FriendFeed's engineering team is $$$ and the ability to build system for a wider audience. FriendFeed's user base is small enough that it'll either get absorbed into Facebook or move on, and FF will become a footnote on the Internet timeline.
- Ken Sheppardson
first tr.im (heard about it yesterday), now this. I wasn't a heavy tr.im user (yet), but sad to see it go, even if I think url shortening is silly.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
As FB said they're interested in the people and not in the site, what if the community will keep running FF without its current staff?
- Flavio
I'll have to go with Flavio's position too. Given this news (plus tr.im and who knows who's next), I'd tend to favor community supported or federated services for things like this in the future.
- Don Faulkner
from IM
I am purposely not on facebook because I don't really want to talk to people I have not talked to in 20 years.
- Andy Bakun
trouble is (from my perspective), that the philosophies of the two platforms are at odds. FB wants to bring people to the site and keep them there, while FF is a hub, bringing people in and then sending them back out. (That's part of why it's hard for the newcomer to understand, IMHO.)
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Quote «Taylor and Cox say that the Friendfeed product will live on independently, and eventually Friendfeed will be merged into Facebook. But the Friendfeed team is not being kept whole. Some employees will now report to Cox, others to engineering head Mike Schroepfer. In my opinion that means, long term, the Friendfeed product itself is unlikely to be a big priority.¶ But Facebook is...
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- Philipp Lenssen
+1 Kol for the techcrunch article!
- Don Faulkner
from IM
techcrunch: "Cox agreed, noting that Facebook is focused on being a platform and a service, and not just a destination site." I certainly hope so!
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Brilliant move by both Facebook and friendfeed. Congratulations!!! I have theories of what they have planned, but I doubt you would verify any of them. This is going to go so well with their SocialTV which they have been developing. I'm so happy for you!
- Michael Fidler
I don't see what's so bad about it since no one knows right now what the outcome will be, everyone is just making assumptions that could possibly be wrong..... Might help just sitting back and seeing what happens first before complaining.
- ChaCha Fance
Nooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrghh! I´ve resisted getting a facebook acct for so long...
- ɯɥøq sɐɯoɥʇ
I wonder how the discussion over on facebook would compare to this?
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Congrats, FF! I'm approaching the situation with cautious optimism. A lot of my friends only share stuff via the Facebook wall/feed, so if Facebook is able to make their feed more like the FF feed (i.e. good, instead of sucktacular) through this acquisition, it's mostly a win for me in the end.
- Brian Chang
/me pokes Rutger. (just getting in practice. ;)
- Don Faulkner
from IM
Where will we go for the FFunderCats, bacon memes, and angry artists fighting over photo reshares now? ;)
- Tyson Key
If anybody has doubts as to what happens to the FriendFeed community or our stored information here, read this statement from Bret (in this thread) "Your data will not go away any time in the near term future - we are committed to our users". Now maybe you can see "whats so bad about it" and curb your optimism. Not good.
- JCunwired
@josh: do you think FB will throw away all the crap people use? various quiz, pick 5 and so on?
- Flavio
@jc: our data will not go away in the near future. what will be in few months? in a year?
- Flavio
Let's see if you can do a bit better than just not being evil this time around.
- Tim Tyler
Wooohooo!!, seems like we are being sent back to "good" old Facebook. Congrats Bret!!
- DanDan
Looks like I'm going to repeat the same thing many others did. My first reaction was "Oh my..." I have refused to join Facebook due to its philosophy while I have been with FriendFeed from the beginning for its. I'm sad and somewhat apprehensive.
- Sean Leather
Please say that facebook.com will be shutting down, and the combined company will still be called FriendFeed... I bet it won't happen, though.
- Tyson Key
"Regarding FB/FF - Here's how it's [probably] going to work. You will most likely have an account merge, all of the services FriendFeed supports will now be aggregated on Facebook, and all of your FriendFeed friends will be in a "list" on Facebook. The FF Groups will become Facebook Groups. The FF lists will become Facebook Lists." http://ff.im/6pNxq
- Ozgur Uckan
Nothing like an early retirement payout :)
- Owen Greaves
Congratulations Bret. For me this merger makes a lot of sense. Facebook will provide the "quantity" of users, which friendfeed deserves :).
- Karthick R
FriendFeed + Facebook... Oh noes FriendFace is coming (http://www.youtube.com/watch...)! Now sorry for that link, and seriously, thanks for your work, guys. Please don't let the spirit of FriendFeed to be blown away =)
- Anton
hey, that is great guys! interested to see how you integrate.
- Brian Walsh
Mind blown. Never expected this. I'm also disappointed, yet optimistic at the same time.
- Angus Burton
Kinda curious to see how this will all pan out...although i wouldnt want the friendfeed stuff just integrated into facebook. I feel like im among a group of people who i genuinely share interests with here...dont want to lost that.
- Cass
Best case: Facebook will continue to support and develop FriendFeed. Worst case: this is great news for Amplifeeder.
- David Gaw
Well done, well deserved, I hope FB's means and infrastructures empower your guys to even better things. But if quizzes appear in "my" friendfeed, evil things will haunt you and your descendents for 3 generations.
- Iphigenie
♪ ♪ This is the end.... beautiful friends ♪ ♪
- All for design
Well, I don't see the point of sticking around here if I have accounts in both and this is going to get swallowed whole into Facebook anyways. Put simply, goodbye.
- Micah Collard
The social community that has been behind FriendFeed creators have built a wonderful product. Only problem is, we don't have Zuck's checkbook :(
- JCunwired
friendfeed is a beautiful product, only god knows what facebrook will do to it. Hopefully the ability to upload files (such as mp3s) will not be removed. Zuck is a tool.
- Nibi
Congratulations. I'm sorry to say that I don't plan to move with you.
- Lars Juhl Jensen
Facebook is lucky to have such a talented group of people ... Congratulations FriendFeed!
- Rob Kurrus
doesn't look like a bad joke, better be for the good then, but... Well congrats anyway guys, you did something AWESOME now let's see where Mark takes it
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
That's too bad. Liked the openness if FriendFeed, and the lack crap that is on Facebook. Once FriendFeed dies, it will be Twitter only.
- Mike D.
Congrats, but concerned that FriendFeed and its tools may disappear. Merging the tools with Facebook seems impossible.
- Mike Reynolds
So, what does the acquisition of FriendFeed by Facebook mean to us, users of both websites: Can I make a friend request from FriendFeed, and be approved for both, on one click
- Reyna Carlos
Exciting news guys. I am actually looking forward to your collaboration with / work for FB. No matter what people may or may not like about FB, it does succeed in reaching a more "diverse" audience compared to most other Web 2.0/social web companies. Paired with your team's excellence in realizing features that succeed in pleasing the geekiest of Web 2.0 affine individuals, I think you are steering towards exciting waters :)
- Mustafa K. Isik
*heart sinks* actually a bit of shock - I think that Facebook will leave Friendfeed as-is but I don't think there is hope for future innovation in Friendfeed since their best superstar team members will be pulled onto 'more important' Facebook issues...
- Pon
:-) + :-( very happy for the team, huge achievement, hoping to see export of innovation but not a shut down of this unique community and location
- Majento
Congratulations, and best wishes for your future together! :-)
- Ruchira S. Datta
Wow, I was beginning to use Friendfeed as my defacto social site...Facebook is more for real life friends. They'll just take what makes Friendfeed great, add it to Facebook and slowly kill this site.
- Manuel Mas
What is the big deal? I think it'll make FF bigger and better. You should be happy about that!
- orionstarr
I am disappointed. I don't want to have to go to Facebook to do what i do here. I can not imagine they will port over all the features we enjoy here. We lose a lot for only a slight benefit to Facebook.
- Robert
It could be worse, myspace could've bought them lol...
- orionstarr
Awful news for users but congratulations to you guys. Ideally, FB will run FF as a distinct service but I'm not hopeful. I don't want the diversity and noise that facebook brings - people doing quizzes on which movie star they resemble and playing silly games. I also wanted to keep my day to day social activity distinct from the targeted information and discussion I use FF for.
- Rajit
Only just started taking a serious look at FF after hearing acquisition by FB. Sounds like I'm laggard rather than a leader in use of web 2.0
- ManojRanaweera
I think how Pon said it is what I'm feeling: *heart sinks*.
- Andy Bakun
Congratulations, i am really happy for you guys!! :)
- Mona Nomura
I'm not a Facebook fan, but can't begrudge the FF gang their chance to reap the rewards for all their hard work. However, it would be a shame if FB ruins the good thing we all have going here.
- Ken Morley
Congrats to the FF team... I hope the service doesn't disappear into a fold of light and heat.
- Brandon
if all the things that make FF great are brought to FB then I'll be happy to use it
- Mike Chelen
The community won't be there. Been on FB longer than any other, don't have nearly the relationship or sense of community there that I do here or on Twitter.
- Karoli
Karoli: that is due to the effectiveness of the FF platform and interface, which help to join conversations and find interesting people more so than FB does
- Mike Chelen
Mike: I suspect that FB wants FF for the search possibilities, not the community-building aspects. But we'll see.
- Karoli
i guess congrats are in order, but I'm going to now go and remove everything I have that feeds into FF, and I have to ask -- do I have any rights over my archive? I have a private feed, and I have no interest in offering up my lifestream to the FaceBook data-miners. I hope the FF folks get what they hope for out of the deal, but my FriendFeed experience has been effectively killed.
- RudĩϐЯaЯïan
I just learned about the FF acquisition by Facebook - WOW~! Congratulations Bret, Paul and FF team!! holy cow ........Mooooooooo! Where's the FF Acquisition Party? :)
- Susan Beebe
RT @alirizaesin FriendFeed, R.I.P. Home tweet home!..
- Ozgur Uckan
Congrats to facebook. Now, Twitter is the best.
- miocaro
Congratulations to the FriendFeed guys on the Facebook Acquisition. Not a big fan of Facebook, so I hope my favorite Uber Aggregator, Realtime Social, Microblogging site of awesomeness is not entirely absorbed into the Facebook infrastructure. I wait with baited breath to hear what "normally for the time being" means ;).
- Tom Horn
Can I now have comments propagate in both directions as far as Facebook/Friendfeed is concerned?
- Piaw Na
*checks date*. Damn .. not April 1st, must be for real. While I'm happy for the FF team, since I guess this is what they wanted (congrats guys!), I can't help but think this is the beginning of the end for a great service and a vibrant community. There are reasons I don't spend any time on Facebook and do spend lots of time on FF, and some kind of "FF integrated into Facebook" just won't cut it. I hope this service will live on for at least a few more years.
- Andrew Perry
Gratz to the FF team but as a user I'm not completely happy. In short, I like the FF team/product much more than I like the FB team/product. Best of luck to all.
- timepilot
Dang! I've killed another site! Sorry guys... FF was doing fine until I started coming here again! Same with Pownce! Went there and liked it... went underground for a spell... came back and still liked it, so I stayed. A few months later... BOOM! I have the touch! (I'm thinking I'll start devoting a lot of time to Twitter... maybe I can kill that one, too!)
- Mark J
Bret, congrats on the acquisition. You guys put in a lot of hard work to create this community. I just hope you learned the mistakes Pownce made, Jaiku etc, and ensured that you didn't sell out your community, but that you helped it evolve into something as great as this into something better. Good luck in future endeavors!
- Mike Lewis
Yay for you guys, I mean that seriously, I 'like' what this means for you personally, but -1000000 cool points for doing it with FB. Sad day.
- Threepwood
Karoli: FF search is so useful because it is integrated with all the other great features that help to find relevant content. if FB wants to have a similar capability, they must also develop the underlying architecture.
- Mike Chelen
from IM
shakeel, the reasons for friendfeed to join facebook are probably about other things besides money, since many of the FF staff left high-paying jobs to join in the first place
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Congrats, team! It's bittersweet, though.
- Anne Bouey
So now we will have FriendFeed blocked at work too. Darn.
- Mark Scrimshire
"Your data will not go away any time in the near term future" is not exactly inspiring for the long term for those of us who came here to escape Facebook for a) it's walled garden and b) privacy concerns. Nice for the Founders to make a pile of cash but for the many of us, it feels like we got sold down the river. Sad.
- Sally Church
cacarr: updates for FB have progressed rapidly in the past, count how many months since new features such as api calls and site redesigns have have been implemented
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Congratulation to the FF team! You guys deserves this. I just hope that Facebook does not change the directions of FF.
- Vinko
I hope this means better integration: liking here will auto-like on fb and such :D if that's the case, I won't mind the ads *wink* *wink*
- Friendfeed's Francisco
Franc, cant stand facebook ads in their current format, hope they will be fixed eventually :P
- Mike Chelen
from IM
Grats, dont spend it all in one place.....
- Robert Higgins
congrads. I think it will be good for BOTH companies.
- Logan Lindquist
Congratulations to all the FriendFeed team. I hope you'll be able to keep the FriendFeed spirit up at Facebook. Kudos for all the great work you've been doing.
- Paul Papadimitriou
I use FriendFeed and Facebook so it would be awesome to see FF features in Facebook. Congratulations!
- krzychukula
from IM
judging by the nearly 600 comments as i type this, including my own earlier one, FF could use a Don't Like button as well. or would, if we were going to be using it much longer.
- kelly
Nice, i like to wish you all the best for your new job (and it's really hard, i know). I'm happy, but... don't let die FF!!
- ''Ignobile''
Hope FriendFeed remains open. Love the spirit of FF
- Bernaldo Barrena
Seriously, what a coincidence! Just on Saturday I claimed to be both twitter- and facebook-free. I loved FF product and personally helped to bring at least a dozen of my friends into the community. I'll stick around for a while though.
- ✔ ǝuǝƃnǝ
This deal makes sense, now fb developers do not need to figure out how ff does it because they can just ask! Congrats facebook and ff!
- Garin Kilpatrick
I suppose Facebook had to do it, with Twitter and Google Wave as competitor...
- Alexander Kruel
I am noticing a lot of people going to re-esumate their lifestream.fm account now!
- Flavio
I don't think FB acquiring FF is bad. But I don't think it's good either. We'll see. :-) In the meantime, keep up the good work!
- Alexander Gieg
How long until ex-FriendFeed employees start jumping ship from Facebook? I wonder...
- Tyson Key
Thomas Power still believes that Facebook/FF/Linkedin (2010) will be acquired by Apple (2011) and this is a transitional acquisition in the SN market cycle. The world is shifting to Mac, iTunes, iPhones and FB own the next generation. Apple have $29bn of cash on deposit price is not an issue. Google must jump for twitter while MS fiddle in the sticks with Yahoo. BillG will be back at the MS helm 2012.
- Penny Power
:( Happy for FF people, sad for the service. Was going to move from fb to ff this week..
- Martynas
Flavio: never heard of lifestream.fm before, but I'm going to go check it out. I'll reiterate, though, that I'm now shy of any service like this, since it can disappear just as it's getting good. I heard about sweetcron.com last night (via http://ff.im/6pR2w). Maybe it's time to move from centralized to distributed again.
- Don Faulkner
Just finished setting up my lifestream.fm at http://lifestream.fm/dfaulkner. Lifestream does what it says, and no more. FF's search blows lifestream away. FF is more flexible about adding source feeds, but lifestream does fine without the flexibility I suppose. FF still wins, or would, if I thought it would be sticking around. :P
- Don Faulkner
I also hate facebook, not because of their silly quizzes and pokes, but because I suspect they would like to maintain massive user base as the determining factor in choosing a social network. I would love to switch to orkut as I use so many other google services, but I can't because nobody else does. That should not be my criteria.... I thought friendfeed would try to make social networks work together.
- Ru Viljoen
I don't understand why everyone is so negative about the situation?
- orionstarr
@orionstarr - it's like Starbucks buying your neighborhood coffee shop and saying it still cares about the customers. You know it's just not going to be the same as what you've come to love.
- Robin Barooah
Presumably FF will go on the back burner - and the team will try and "fix" Facebook.
- Tim Tyler
I've watched Facebook morph from a relatively organised and well implemented social networking tool into the hulking mess it is now - and I really, really hope that a similar thing doesn't happen here with the inevitable changes this will bring about.
- Leslie Moore
Come on guys, out with the long-term game plan, this is tedious.
- Andrew Eglinton
Teach Facebook how to be FriendFeed. Let the small but fast teach the big but slow. Don't forget what Paul says - don’t be evil.
- whatidiscover
Friendfeed is not as huge as Facebook but you're doing such terrible work on it. Friendfeed is facing so many many problems these days though facebook doesn't seem to have one. Why?
- Sing For Absolution
"French accident investigators said the cockpit instruments were receiving conflicting speed data at the time of the incident. Air France said on Saturday that it had accelerated existing plans to replace airspeed-monitoring units in its jets. The airline said it began noticing "incidents of loss of airspeed information during cruise flight" on its twin-engine A330s and four-engine A340s in May last year. It said it informed Airbus of the problem. The device in question is the Pitot probe, usually on the leading edge of a wing, which measures the force of the air through which an aircraft passes. Dominique Bussereau, France's transport minister, said it was too early for investigators to identify the most likely cause of the crash, but confirmed that Airbus jets had experienced problems with speed monitors. "Too low a speed can cause the plane to stall, or too high a speed can lead to it ripping up as it approached the speed of sound, as the outer skin is not designed to resist such speed," he said."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
This is wrong: "France's transport minister ... confirmed that Airbus jets had experienced problems with speed monitors." Regardless of the cause of accidents, problems on COMMERCIALS JETS should not be left unresolved for over a year! That is irresponsible and unacceptable. Scary.
- Christopher Chung
Weird. According to the twelve tests I just ran it seems I should be using Yahoo for best results and that's actually the one I'm least inclined to use.
- Mark H
So far, I've picked Google a little more than the others, but not by much.
- Louis Gray
Current results: "Google: 46%, Bing: 34%, Yahoo: 20% | 6905 votes" but I worry a little bit about self-selection bias--a MSFT employee (Michael Kordahi) did this, so some of those votes are perhaps a little more likely to be MSFT employees. Barry Schwartz did a similar comparison a while ago, but the comparison had more granularity because people could rate search results from 1 (bleah) to 5 (really relevant). Here's more info: http://www.rustybrick.com/rustyse...
- Matt Cutts
"more granularity because people could rate search results from 1 (bleah) to 5 (really relevant)." Not sure that makes a big difference, with enough votes you still get 1st, 2nd and 3rd positions, including granular percentages (and you may accumulate votes faster this way as less thinking is required). Of course if you're looking for data on how often a search engine REALLY screws up, this method may not work well.
- Philipp Lenssen
"a MSFT employee (Michael Kordahi) did this" Didn't know this, added an update at Blogoscoped. "so some of those votes are perhaps a little more likely to be MSFT employees" Why? (Not that I'm doubting it, but it's a blind test so you can't just vote for Bing results, unless perhaps you hack the thing...)
- Philipp Lenssen
Philipp, the nice thing is that with Rusty's poll, he provided a downloadable spreadsheet afterwards. For each row, I think he had the query, the result, and the relevance rating (1..5). That's much easier to dig into. Philipp, MSFT employees have been using Kumo/Bing for the last few months, so my guess is that they're more likely to prefer Kumo/Bing results. The fact I first saw it on...
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- Matt Cutts
Matt: "MSFT employees have been using Kumo/Bing for the last few months, so my guess is that they're more likely to prefer Kumo/Bing results." But why, considering it's a blind test? (I have some guesses as to why but I'd like to hear your opinion.) And by that reasoning would you also say that everone who's been using Google for the last few months and beyond is, for that reason, more likely to prefer Google results, even in a blind test which does not show the logo?
- Philipp Lenssen
Yahoo went from 20% to 35% in just a couple hours and continues to rise. Seems like a large coincidence, but who knows? :) That's the problem with this sort of self-selecting poll; you're not sure about the demographics of who is voting.
- Matt Cutts
Yup, Yahoo went from 20% to 40% in ~2-3 hours. I believe this poll has been astroturfed. :) Did someone invite 4chan into the party or something?
- Matt Cutts
The app doesn't use any captchas so maybe it's abusable (not that captchas would stop 4chan, as we saw with the Time poll!).
- Philipp Lenssen
Yahoo jumped from 40% to 44% in the past few minutes...
- Simon
Yahoo went from 35% to 42% in 20 minutes. I have a hard time believing that's organic. Ooh, now it's at 46%! Whee! :)
- Matt Cutts
Funny thing is, I could tell which one was google simply by the results. It was hard to find a search that I couldn't tell which one was google. I'd like to see the experiment replay with bogus headers half the time and blind the other half. It was suggested in a test (I think maybe Louis wrote about it?) that if google's name was placed on search results, they would prefer those, not matter whose search results they were.
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
One thing I have noticed is that in any ovie, v show, etc where anything odd happens, the English are always portrayed as standing in place saying something like "This can't be happening" or some stupid thing like that, when it clearly IS happening. Is this some sort of national trait? I like to think that if, say, the dead rise and turn on the living, I would fight back + run to safety FIRST and worry about the ontological implications after.
- Neal "thePuck" Jansons
Here Neal, you dropped an "m" and a "t" :)
- Richard Walker
well, it's almost a month later but anyway in Canada the top three are currently Sims 3, StoneLoops and StickWars
- Richard Akerman
My cousin dl'ed the Moron Test and tried to get me to take it. I told him he'd already failed because he was a moron for buying it in the first place. He was unamused. I wasn't.
- Hookuh Tinypants
To be fair, he's kind of a tool, so it's less a reflection of the app and more a reflection of how much I want to throw him off the nearest high-rise.
- Hookuh Tinypants
I notice that the U.S. is no longer a nation of morons -- for the last few days, "The Sims 3" is #1, so we're now a nation of replicants.
- Stephen Mack
got this after my first intelligent use of ff filtered search. populist USA likes to feign ignorance and UK likes to superficial awareness
- Lane Rapp
In other news, reporters have stopped researching anything. From http://www.google.com/intl... "Omid Kordestani has decided to hand over the reins to Nikesh Arora, currently President of International Operations, and take on a new role as Senior Advisor, Office of the CEO and Founders. Continued growth is essential to our future success and no one is better placed to advise on new revenue opportunities than Omid, the business founder of Google."
- EricaJoy
Yeah, "leaves" is the wrong word, but it sounds a lot like partial retirement at the very least.
- Paul Buchheit
I'm not quite sure that counts as "leaving Google."
- EricaJoy
Erica, don't forget that big moves like this are sometimes done slowly. That may not be the case here, but it might be.
- Paul Buchheit
Current re-orgs were all pointing in this direction as all new promotions were dotted line reporting to Nikesh - still it's sad to see this change, I remember [a decade ago] when I received my Google offer from Omid, and he's been an amazing role model for all those years...
- Aydin Senkut
Still, the headline makes approximately zero sense. If Omid does leave someday (which would of course be very unfortunate), then that headline would be appropriate, but as it is it's just wrong.
- Joel Webber
Omid is actually turning into an alien zombie werewolf. Note: big changes like this are sometimes done slowly. That may not be the case here, but it might be.
- Jim Norris
Yah, they updated the story after I posted this: "Google spokesperson just emailed to let us know that Omid is staying on with the company in a full time capacity and is still on company’s operating committee."
- Bret Taylor
When I first saw Nikesh Arora speak at our sales conference a few years ago, my co-worker and I turned to each other and said: "This guy is the next Omid."
- Ginger Makela Riker
Little known: Omid studied electrical engineering, and wrote Fortran code on punch cards in his early days.
- Amit Patel
Big change, interesting move - still laughing over Jim Norris' comment ;o)
- Susan Beebe
Omid is great, but honestly I think he'll be better for Google in a more strategic role. Nikesh is a master tactician.
- Daniel Dulitz
Okay, may help if I turn off the mute button, but still not getting much of a signal. Qik announcement FAIL?
- Jesse Stay
Robert, if that's you behind the camera, your laughing is deafening. Anyway, the quality on Qik isn't that great. They should've broadcasted it on Ustream ;)
- Michael Forian
You would think that Qik themselves could get the stream right for their own PR announcement.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
Henry, there is already a Qik app for the iPhone. You need to get a special invite to use it. Apple will not approve it, it does some voodoo to get video out of the iPhone camera. I expect the app to be approved when the new rumored iPhone comes out.
- Steven (optionshiftk)
I helped beta test their original iPhone app and they won't even give me access to the final version. I'm a little ticked, honestly. I was a huge supporter of theirs until they started giving preference to the really big guys.
- Jesse Stay
Maybe it means you can soon use the Qik for iPhone without Jailbreaking your phone. I currently have qik on my iphone and was one of the reasons for me jailbreaking it.
- Paul Wade
The roaming data rates are still not competitive in Germany. You can get a pre-paid SIM (www.simyo.de) and use 3G at just $0.32/MB (or $0.032/100 KB). The rates quoted for Germany are $0.47-$2.56/100 KB, and most other countries are at that same $2.56 level. Over 100x higher than rates they are able to provide in Germany! So when will the other providers finally realize that lower prices can enable customers to use mobile data services?
- Nils Sandin
Paul: nope Qik is not going to be available on iPhone until version 3 comes out.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Robert, I haven't done my research, but will Qik be on the Palm Pre?
- Bwana ☠
Bwana, not sure Palm Pre will have video capability at first release.
- JCunwired
The knees belong to Chandrasekar Rathakrishnan, founder and CEO of http://fusiongarage.com -- which is doing the engineering work on the CrunchPad, the Tablet PCs that TechCrunch is making. Mike Arrington, founder of TechCrunch, is Twittering while riding his new Segway. Calacanis is Twittering too. The rest of the office is trying to get some work done. By the way, I met my wife in this office 10 years ago when I helped interview her for a job. The office also is where Doc Searls had his marketing company (the beginnings of Cluetrain Manifesto came from here).
- Robert Scoble
from Bookmarklet
Maryam and I worked right about where Heather is standing. By the way, this used to be Palo Alto's Mortuary. Off to find info about that. Bummer, not much info about this office is online.
- Robert Scoble
Didn't he say he'd kick your ass if you showed any Crunchpad pics? I got your back though, no worries. Btw, he's totally fug.
- The Real sofarsoShawn
Slightly off topic: Using a Cannon 5D mark II in a well lit room? Almost seems like a waste. Sometime when you are in the northwest we need to go see a band play at one of the dark dive clubs I take photos in. I want to see how it works in that situation.
- MarkCarras
Mark: yeah, shooting at 6400 ISO too. It is an awesome camera. Used my 24 mm F2.8 prime lens.
- Robert Scoble
If only Scoble was in the pic that would be the nerdiest photo ever.
- Jonathan Coffman
sofaroshawn: I'm not too worried about Mike. Anyway, me thinks he really wanted the PR for the CrunchPad. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Just now realizing that I live almost next door to the new techcrunch office. pretty sweet place!
- Blake
Scoble: What is this colorful display on the table?
- Rafael
Rafael: those are the prototypes of the CrunchPad.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, this office is on Lytton in Palo Alto at the corner of Ramona.
- Robert Scoble
I saw the CrunchPad when I was there that morning as well and was sworn not to mention/blog about it. But it looks like that didn't last long! :)
- Louis Gray
Dave McClure was first to post images from that day, so you guys are probably all just fine. :-) I don't think it's much of a secret any more.
- Jesse Stay
Intel Atom, you say... wish'em luck - they will need it...
- A. T.
Louis: I didn't agree to any embargo. And, anyway, it's TechCrunch. You know, those guys who don't agree to embargoes anyway! And I only posted this after Calacanis posted his own pictures. So there. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Are you guys seriously worrying about breaking a TECHCRUNCH embargo? Techcrunch doesn't seem too worried about embargos on their blogs.
- Jim Connolly
Awesome, Mike reminds me of Job on Arrested Development. Does he have his title stitched on the front of the bag?
- Ryan
And auto makers too often only offer boring colors for cars. It's a chicken and the egg problem, but is a big problem as I want to get a factory paint job in a striking color.
- Kevin Fox
from Bookmarklet
My car is a luxury (Acura RL) colored white, with a gray trim. Take THAT, conformity!
- Mike Nayyar
Boring colors stand the test of time for those who keep their cars longer, avoids getting sucked into what's fashionable this year but dated-looking next year. White and black are hard to keep looking clean, thus silver and gray tend to dominate. It's like "relocation beige" carpeting in a house.
- Tinfoil 2.0
I have wanted a copper orange car badly for the last 4 years! *sighs*
- Rachel Lea Fox
one of my favorite weird colors for a car is burnt orange, like the 40th anniversary lotus - http://twitpic.com/376pu
- mjc
"The designers meet with three different paint houses, we go to fashion shows, we read magazines such as the Trend Union, a bi-annual trend forecasting book that shapes colors and lifestyles for seasons ahead." Wow, they read a *magazine*? That's advanced design methodology!
- ⓞnor
If you've ever seen a big parking lot on Google Maps (or MS's Live Local or whatever they call it), you've seen how boring car colours are. Though in fairness, those photos might not be as saturated as real life.
- Andrew C (✓)
I used to have a funky colored beetle five years back.. before it finally aged out
- Sardar Mohkim Khan
its 2009 when it the changeable paint going to arrive? Click a button your car is orange. Tire of orange? Switch to green. Then blue. Formal event, Black sounds good.
- gfurry
Rachel - the Chevy HHR makes orange. I'd guess it's not very popular since 99% of them seem to be owned by Avis. Rental car lots are great places to see some more experimental colors not often seen on the road.
- Sarah Miller
Sarah - thanks!! This is actually the exact car I want: http://images.cars.com/main... Mazda 3 in burnt orange copper. They sold it as an anniversary edition about 4 years ago for one year only. According to salesmen, it is continually one of their more popular colors and if they get one in used they can't keep it very long. You would think they would learn from that and bring it back!!! But no, the 2010 colors are released and no orange. :(
- Rachel Lea Fox
Ours is silver. Sometimes makes it hard to find in the parkinglot.
- Lix
İMK'dan yepyeni, fırından yeni çıkmış, sıcacık bir organizasyon daha. Laf Arası Kariyer (sevenleri onu LaKLaK diye çağırıyor), 14-15 Nisan'da İTÜ Maçka Kampüsü'nde!
Programı yakında açıklıyoruz. Sıkıcı kariyer etkinliklerinden uzak, az katılımcısı olan ama daha eğlenceli, oyunlu, yönetimle ilgili çarpıcı belgeseller olan farklı bir kariyer deneyimi. Çeşitli alanlara dikkati çeken bir etkinlik olacak. İnternet sektöründen Secretcv.com'un katılması kesinleşti. İnovasyon grup çalışması olacak. KPMG geliyor, bazı firmalar kesinleşmedi, onları sonra açıklarız ;)
- Eren Soydaş
Elinizden geldiğince katılmaya çalışın lütfen :)
- Eren Soydaş
Tuesday afternoon and the apple store is packed. Amazing. Unfortunately the wait to see a 'genius' about my iphone is almost 3 hours, so I will be sticking with the android.
Agreed. They also need to fix the battery life problem. As of yesterday I've gone back to Blackberry for all of my primary communications as my iPhone was dying from low battery life every day by 7pm. Still keeping the iPhone with me because I'm an Apple guy at heart. But, looking forward to their next innovations in miniaturized battery awesomeness :)
- Dave Morin
Apple stores are always over crowded at the genius bar. On the upside though they have free internet there and FriendFeed looks really cool on one of this gigantic monitors that you can just hop on and use while you wait.
- Thomas Hawk
++ Josh, to Apple: handle the load please. ;p
- Zu from AOD
+++ Take Amazon as customer service Benchmark, where they go so far as to improve processes of other vendors selling on Amazon network - or send their own trucks to suppliers to make sure popular items are always in stock...
- Aydin Senkut
Well, Amazon doesn't offer local service counters where you can drop in and get help with your products. I suppose T-Mobile does, though I'm not sure how helpful they are.
- ⓞnor
Paul, you need to hire a tech to handle all that stuff for you. :P
- EricaJoy
What's wrong with making an appointment? I don't see the issue here
- Bwana ☠
Making an appointment means planning ahead Bwana. I happened to be on University Ave so I decided to drop in and try to get my iphone fixed. More than anything though, I was just impressed at how many people were there. Apparently nobody told them about the depression :)
- Paul Buchheit
You think it's not just unemployed folks killing time, Paul?
- Ken Sheppardson
I also saw people outside loading computers into a car. Palo Alto is still its own world for the moment.
- Paul Buchheit
Eric still seems like he doesn't get what's going on here. That's very good news for Facebook who really is going to run away with the prize this year.
- Robert Scoble
Robert - agreed. Still glad you wrote the afterword for our book? :-) We've got a second edition in the works.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: yeah. Twitter is still very important. Competiton is good! Even if I think they are messing up in a lot of ways.
- Robert Scoble
Either google has something big up their sleeve to counter twitter, or they are going the way of MS (as with search). I did like eric's view on regulating companies that are "too big" to fail. I wonder if that'll apply to google in the online mktg space? Hmmm
- Shivanand Velmurugan
I believe Schmidt when he says he did not diss twitter because I think that he either understands it very well and are getting ready to crush twitter or does not understands it at all. Either way, not his fault. "Stay the course" :)
- Antonio Altamirano
"According to the Case-Shiller index, as of December home prices in San Francisco have “rewound” nearly seven years. This is easily the furthest into the past that prices have gone in any of the eight cities Redfin serves."
- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
Wonder if it's consistent across zip codes in SF
- Aydin Senkut
and when I say San Francisco I mean all of Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, San Francisco, and San Mateo Counties.
- j1m
I doubt it. They have another post with "discounts vs asking price", which doesn't tell you about decline in value, but is probably somehow correlated, and it shows a lot of variety (94123 is still selling above asking, for example). http://blog.redfin.com/sfbay...
- Paul Buchheit
In Palo Alto I think prices are still going up...
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: I seriously doubt that, especially since Facebook isn't providing a housing subsidy anymore. Anyway, every other area around Palo Alto has started to fall so Palo Alto will too soon, if it hasn't already. There are foreclosures in Palo Alto, too, and where those happen housing prices fall.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook employees don't have enough money to buy a house in Palo Alto (at least not the ones who would care about a housing subsidy), so they shouldn't be affecting the market much. The problem with Palo Alto is that it's somewhat unique and there's a lot of unmet demand.
- Paul Buchheit
I'm hoping for it to go down btw. If I ever find a nice lot at a good price, I'll probably buy it, which is why I keep my eye on the market there.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: too bad friendfeed is a bit too far from Half Moon Bay. There are a bunch of nice homes for sale here. Will keep a look out. Certainly there is a lot of Silicon Valley wealth that's keeping Palo Alto higher than other places, but I would be shocked if Palo Alto doesn't feel it at some point. Even San Francisco's good neighborhoods are feeling it now.
- Robert Scoble
I'd like to see them drop to where they were in the 90's. So far they haven't dropped at all.
- Paul Buchheit
Paul: it's good for me that they haven't fallen yet. I live in a neighborhood that appeals to wealthy Silicon Valley types, so if Palo Alto stays stable it means my house won't drop much more.
- Robert Scoble
Paul -- what other sites / blogs do you use to keep an eye on the market?
- Michael Leggett
"Increasing the number of shards is similar to changing the backend infrastructure, but simpler. Downtime obviously isn't acceptable, so when switching from one system to the next, we have a period during which we write to both so that it is safe to read from either one. Other schemes could be used for resharding, but this is simple enough and also works for other changes, and in practice we've changed the schema more often than the number of shards. Also, keep in mind that it is ok to have more shards than you really need (multiple shards can run on the same machine, for example), so resharding needn't be a common operation."
- Paul Buchheit