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Chart: U.S. Small Businesses increasing search ad spend over 90% (@eMarketer) [Q3 '08 to Q3 '09] - http://www.emarketer.com/Article...
Bing gaining share and providing better click through rates
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Execs draw a blank on BPM - http://www.itworldcanada.com/news...
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What's your opinion?: The biggest obstacles to Social Media adoption in large companies? The legal and I.T. departments. What do you think?
@goodwolve said: and their internal PR people.
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Chart: Social Media Sites on which companies maintain profiles, 2009 (Source-Business.com) [Includes link to free report]
Q: On which of the social media sites does your company currently maintain one or more company accounts or profiles? Please check all that apply.
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Link to report: http://www.business.com/info...
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Chart: Ability to see impact of Social Media Initiatives on Success Metrics, 2009 (Source-Business.com) [Includes link to free report]
Q:Today, how well can your company see the impact of a given social media initiative on the following key success metrics 1-not at all, unable to measure, 2-Barely-may or may not have the data, 3-Somewhat, data is there but you have to dig, 4-most of the data is easily accessed, 5-part of standard reports. [Click on graphic above to enlarge]
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Link to report: http://www.business.com/info...
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Chart: Usefulness of different social media for business information, 2009 (Source-Business.com) [Includes link to free report]
Q:How useful do you find each of the following as a resource that helps you do your job more easily and effectively [Productivity question] 1-Not at all useful to 5-very useful. [Click on graphic above to enlarge]
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Link to report: http://www.business.com/info...
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Chart: Comparing GenY vs GenX females discovery & referral of brands/products to their friends, US mkt, Sep 2009 (via @eMarketer) - http://www.emarketer.com/Article...
From a B2B perspective it's important to know how your customers and prospective customers communicate in the consumer world. Personal/Professional task overlap occurs at work and at home.
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Chart:Role of adv/communications providers becoming more important to the "C-Suite" (via @marketingcharts) [w/my thoughts] - http://www.marketingcharts.com/topics...
The first test will be how are adv/communications firms communicating with the "C suite"?
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Chart: What apps etailers plan to add/replace within the nxt 12 months, US mkt (Source: Inet retailer via @eMarketer) [w/my thoughts] - http://www.emarketer.com/Article...
The adoption of technology relates services/systems by consumers is driving the adoption of technology in the enterprise. If consumers expect these types of things in their personal life these expectations will bleed into the b2b world..this has happened with wifi, instant messaging and the iphone.
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CHART: Activities US college students would least likely give up for a week, Oct 2009 (Source: PMN/Pace U via eMarketer) [I comment] - http://www.emarketer.com/Article...
Boston college no longer gives out email addresses to students. Disconnect?
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CHART: 80% of marketers agree that social sharing helps extend reach of content email to new markets (Source: MarketingSherpa) - http://www.marketingsherpa.com/article...
We need to make sure that sharing information is meant to help followers learn, inform and solve problems that our businesses may be able to solve. Also, think about sharing things that won't directly contribute to a sale but solely focused on helping people and companies be successful without you.
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CHART: 80% of marketers agree that social sharing helps extend reach of content email to new markets (Source: MarketingSherpa) - http://www.marketingsherpa.com/article... (via http://friendfeed.com/mi6agen...)
We need to make sure that sharing information is meant to help followers learn, inform and solve problems that our businesses may be able to solve. Also, think about sharing things that won't directly contribute to a sale but solely focused on helping people and companies be successful without you.
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FEATURED ARTICLE: Twitter Serves Up Ideas From Its Followers, Oct 2009 (Source: NY Times) http://www.nytimes.com/2009... [But: http://www.btobonline.com/apps...]
Are product managers using social media to listen, learn, improve & create new products? Twitter is.
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FEATURED ARTICLE:The FTC Has Spoken: Pay Attention Or Pay The Price (Source: @SimaSays via @KentHuffman) [w/ comment] - http://www.expertbusinesssource.com/blog...
I think it's important that there is full disclosure. If you're paid to blog about something then disclose it. By extension, I think the FTC should take a look at mainstream advertising and dig deeper on how authentic it is as well. If a claim is made by the advertiser such as the best network coverage or # 1 in customer satisfaction then this proof should be easy to find on the advertisers website. Another example is how many dentists recommend Crest and why do they recommend it over other products?
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Good points! If you're getting anything free for touting a product or service, just say so - doesn't mean you can't also be a raving fan :)
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CHART: When to tweet during the day, during the week (Source: @DanZarrella) [With some comments from me] - http://danzarrella.com/weekend...
Some thoughts: Factor in your timezone, the types of people that follow you, why they are following you. Also, take into consideration that some of your followers will subscribe to your feeds so they can capture your stream and read all your tweets at their convenience.
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CHART: Who Tweets? %age of US online adults based on sex, race, age and other demo data (Source: @marketingcharts) - http://www.marketingcharts.com/interac...
This is a "four clicker". You'll need to click on the image four times in order to see it properly (especially for old folks like me!)
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Seeking feedback from friends & followers. What social media role/stance do you think I'm serving? Thx to those who respond. - http://scottgould.me/pre-you...
Is my stance: Leadership, Passive Publishing or Monitoring. Or "something completely different?"
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CHART: Sources used by buyers to make purchase decisions, Aug-Sep 2009 (Source: Lightspeed research via eMarketer) - http://www.emarketer.com/Article...
Celebrity endorsements at the bottom of the list.
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FEATURED ARTICLE: Mktg Automation 2 Biggest Regrets (Source: @HJSewell via @KentHuffman) [Strategy, process & content are key] - http://connectdirect.wordpress.com/2009...
79.2% of respondents said they would “better prepare their organization by building proper processes and content offers to feed the automation system”
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FEATURED ARTICLE: Work at Eye Level [make sure you leave the horse at home] (Source:NY Times) http://bit.ly/4fMZio - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
"The pathway to change is through relationships, and you can’t form a relationship if you’re not at eye level."
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FEATURED ARTICLE: EchoStar tries technology to win over cable industry (Source: Denver Business Journal) http://bit.ly/5xbf3 [Watch shows from any device] - http://denver.bizjournals.com/denver...
Their technology helps cableco's make it possible for consumers to watch content on any screen (PC, iphone etc.) other then their TV that is connected to the cable DVR device. Cableco's in Canada?
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FEATURED ARTICLE: Apple’s game changer (Source: San Francisco Business Times) http://bit.ly/31RtQq [micro payments] - http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfran...
Apple, which has sold more than 50 million iPhones, began allowing micro-transactions over paid applications four months ago. The latest change, announced Oct. 16, removes all barriers to making small purchases over the iPhone. Apple already has the customer’s payment information and can simply process transactions, taking a 30 percent cut in the process.
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FEATURED ARTICLE: Small businesses seek broad access to health exchanges, (Source: Business First of Louisville) http://bit.ly/4aqRov - http://louisville.bizjournals.com/louisvi...
A social network/service for healthcare. Sign me up!
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How to access the @KentHuffman CMO Twitter List. I hope this works for @CKBurgess [Let me know if it works for you]
Thought Twitter Lists could at least be seen by everyone. Not the case. Sorry about that
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CHART: YoY Percent Change in Online Ad Spend by Industry in US, Aug 09, The Nielsen Company. Link to source article:http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsen...
I have no idea how this chart showed up from a "mobile" search. Although now that the word "mobile" is in this comment it will show up for sure.
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CHART: What marketing tactics will be used more in 2009 by European companies (Source: EIAA via eMarketer) - http://www.emarketer.com/Article...
No social media/network initiatives?
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FEATURED PRESENTATION: Twitter use, demographics and media consumption, U.S. Aug 2009 (Source: Pew) - http://www.slideshare.net/PewInte...
19% of American internet users used Twitter in August, 2009.
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Woah - @scobleizer's using FriendFeed again. Is that his way of saying @louisgray and I were right? ;-): http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... (update: I must have misunderstood Louis Gray's opinion before - see the comments below) (update 2: I think @scobleizer and I are mostly in agreement - this is just my passion for FriendFeed coming through (note the shirt))
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No.
- Robert Scoble
Yes?
- Brandon Titus
I never said I wouldn't ever use it again. I said it would get no new features. I'm pretty sure that even Paul Buchheit confirmed that today.
- Robert Scoble
i got the impression new is to come, and i still feel like the users could/should intro new, if they can (i cant, so thats why wrote this way)
- chaz2b
Robert, I didn't see Paul confirm anything.
- Jesse Stay
Holden, no kidding. Why isn't anyone just asking them? I'm surprised not even TechCrunch has tried to get in touch with them (or they at least haven't said they tried). As an entrepreneur I hate it when bloggers make assumptions without contacting me first.
- Jesse Stay
It's still going to get swallowed by the FaceBook Gear heads and disappear, it's really too bad. But, it's still here so lets party! : )
- Owen Greaves
Owen, that's an assumption
- Jesse Stay
It's logical
- Owen Greaves
Owen, it's an assumption
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: It's still logical assumption :)
- Owen Greaves
Jesse: I've tried to setup an interview with Paul. Just hasn't worked out yet.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse: So you would have me believe that FaceBook bought FF as a side business? To run side by each as a separate profit center?
- Owen Greaves
As to Paul's quote. It's pretty clear to me that they are working on bringing FriendFeed style features to a "larger group." Well, since FriendFeed's group is getting smaller that only means one thing: they are working on bringing these features to Facebook itself. Which matches what I've heard from my friends at Facebook.
- Robert Scoble
Owen: if Jesse thinks that he's VERY mistaken.
- Robert Scoble
Owen, I'm saying no one but FF and FB know what's happening to FriendFeed. No one knows anything right now
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: that's really not true. I have plenty of sources inside Facebook. What Paul said did NOT disagree with a damn thing I said.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, yes, Paul said that, but he didn't say FriendFeed is going away.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I can't believe you are actually sitting on the fence on this :)
- Owen Greaves
I never said that FriendFeed is going away either.
- Robert Scoble
Friend Feed will me merged into Facebook before it is out. Facebook bought Friend Feed for their R&D group as well as their technology. Mergers of this kind never result in both services being kept running.
- Rob Cairns
Robert, what features do you think FB is getting? FOAF?
- Cristo
Robert, you said it would get no new features - Paul didn't say that either
- Jesse Stay
Rob, that is an assumption
- Jesse Stay
Robert it willg oa way its a matter of time
- Rob Cairns
Will I be able to converse with this crowd without it being mixed in with family & friends?
- Cristo
Jesse: well, to get new features someone has to work on FriendFeed itself. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert, Paul never said people have stopped working on FriendFeed forever
- Jesse Stay
Jesse but look what happens in the industry it is a pretty good one based on past history.
- Rob Cairns
Maybe google will take Tornado and create their own FriendFeed/Twitter.
- Cristo
Cristo: they aren't telling me what features they are building for Facebook and if they were it would be under NDA so I would have to play dumb and stupid when you ask such a question.
- Robert Scoble
Robert Scoble and no one is adding features to FF but lots to Facebook
- Rob Cairns
Rob, like Robert, I have plenty of contacts inside Facebook as well
- Jesse Stay
Cristo: nah, Google is going to try to make Wave work. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
Wave is not social networking. At least not in it's current form.
- Cristo
Cristo: I disagree and agree at the same time.
- Robert Scoble
What's not logical, is that FF & FaceBook will continue to do business in it's current structure
- Owen Greaves
Jesse - Me too actually but the reality is people will use any service and reconnect if one shuts down. People always go where the people they communicate go.
- Rob Cairns
Robert, that's very hard to disagree with.
- Cristo
I predict Facebook will use Wave and Wave will use Facebook (but that's another argument)
- Jesse Stay
Owen: at least for the forseen future.
- Robert Scoble
Holden: that doesn't mean it's not social networking *sighs*
- Robert Scoble
Robert, is email and/or chat social networking? Is there any FOAF or ability to see other people's contacts on Wave?
- Cristo
Jesse somehow I doubt that because Facebook likes a closed network. You can not search the contents of Facebook from outside it and I can not see that changing so they will not partner with Google
- Rob Cairns
Rob, my point is we don't know if FriendFeed is dead (aka no new features). I'm not even sure if Paul or Brett know right now. There's no sense speculating until we're sure. Let's let them release their features and see what happens. Maybe they'll be so cool we'll all just switch to Facebook. Maybe not and we'll stick around here and they'll decide to continue adding features. I think they're watching what the users think right now. No one knows at the moment - to suggest such would be just an assumption
- Jesse Stay
Robert: It's a moot point anyway, we will use all services to promote ourselves, our brands and products no matter what happens. Including being in a state of flux like we are now.
- Owen Greaves
Cristo: no. Because email is not public. Chat is not on the web for the most part. Chat could be a component of social networking.
- Robert Scoble
Rob, that's changing
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: new features take engineering time and AS OF RIGHT NOW FriendFeed is not getting engineering time. Will that change tomorrow? Well, I might win the lottery tomorrow too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, so social networking requires being on the web? You couldn't have client-based or P2P social networking?
- Cristo
When I talk I'm talking about TODAY and what the view is today and what our expectation of tomorrow is based on decisions made today.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse so the key is why invest time in a platform do do not know will survive. We put all this time and content into a service(do people back up what they post) and you potentially can lose it all.
- Rob Cairns
Cristo: most social networking I've seen, like Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, is on the web.
- Robert Scoble
Oh, c'mon people, this is easy: 'When the wind blows from the South I know the difference between a hawk and a handsaw.'
- Akiva Moskovitz
Rob: I don't back up anything here. But I'm not expecting the servers to get turned off.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, but to suggest such would be just an assumption. I think the proper approach would be to talk to them, get their opinions before making such assumptions, report that, and if you can't talk about it, just leave it alone.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: no, it's not an assumption. AS OF TODAY GOOGLE IS NOT BUILDING A GAME CONSOLE. Now, that might change tomorrow.
- Robert Scoble
The web is just another client. Email is both on & off the web, as is chat. The fact that Wave is on the web is no more interesting than gmail being on the web.
- Cristo
Robert - and if they did. Do you have the content you have been posting?
- Rob Cairns
Jesse: Paul confirmed FriendFeed is dead. He is working on Facebook features.
- scott anderson
If you play such a ridiculous game then there are no absolutes at all and we can't make definitive statements. I'm pretty sure the sun will come up tomorrow BUT IT MIGHT NOT.
- Robert Scoble
All that's missing here is the Beer : )
- Owen Greaves
Rob: no. If FriendFeed's servers died for some reason I'd lose everything. Just like I lost everything on my friend's BBS in the 1980s. Just like I lost everything on Prodigy in the 1980s. Just like I lost everything on CompuServe in the 1990s. You'd think I'd learn.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, and somehow you were able to move on.
- Cristo
I lost on a BBS & CompuServe, I haven't lost much since :)
- Owen Greaves
What the heck would you do with it if you kept it somehow?
- Jason Wehmhoener
Cristo: the crap I write in forums doesn't have that much value. :-)
- Robert Scoble
:)
- Cristo
Robert yes I am a geek I backup up the world I actually follow what I teach people I have never lost ANY Data:) Fortunately my FF aggregates into Twitter and I back all my Twitter posts up. I also keep control of my content and data
- Rob Cairns
I'm more interested in what's next than wondering what FaceBook will do with FF
- Owen Greaves
I am one of the few geeks who practice what they preach I am backup compulsive almost
- Rob Cairns
Owen, The Singularity is next. Just talk to Tad and Lindsay.
- Cristo
I talked to Ray Kurzweil, he is certain of it :)
- Owen Greaves
I'm just concerned about all the FUD being thrown around (I'm not just blaming Robert) when we still aren't sure of FriendFeed's future. If it's a service we like, then why not continue to push it so Facebook knows that? Like I said earlier, I really miss the positive Scoble (the last post on Twitter lists was great, btw). I hope this is all taken with all due respect. I just care a lot for FriendFeed, and I want to show both Facebook and the FriendFeed team that we're still behind them.
- Jesse Stay
Who said I didn't agree with Robert in the first place, Jesse? Why is my name being used?
- Louis Gray
Jesse: I don't believe in blowing smoke up people's asses when I've been told there is "no engineering" underway on FriendFeed. Sorry. If you think I should pretend that there's a future for FriendFeed when I know otherwise then we'll have a fundamental disagreement. And the people who I learned this from are not likely to change direction anytime soon, particularly with the traffic here way down, as it is.
- Robert Scoble
Louis, my bad if that's not the case - perhaps my assumption then. I thought we were both on the same side in the argument the other day. If not I'll correct the post above.
- Jesse Stay
Hey, Jesse, I hate to bug you but before I go read through all 80 comments here... is this thread any different than any of the other 16 "is FF dead" threads from the past 3-4 days?
- Ken Sheppardson
Jessie I do too but their is caring and reality/business model. I love the service but loving a service does not make it viable to run on its own. The problem is no one is saying any thing which is usual not a positive thing either.
- Rob Cairns
Ken: no.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse: That may be just wishful thinking that if we use it, make enough noise they will pull back, shift gears or what have you.
- Owen Greaves
Ken, no
- Jesse Stay
Cool. Thanks, guys.
- Ken Sheppardson
And, anyway, the market has already decided. Traffic went down 30 % in a month. Nothing I say now is going to change that. And, to tell you the truth, now that I've learned Twitter's roadmap for the next two months I'm pretty sure Twitter is going to take off again (it already has in the geek community and only a few percent has lists, wait until everyone gets those).
- Robert Scoble
I must say the Twitter LISTS are interesting
- Owen Greaves
Owen, it is wishful thinking - I really like FriendFeed and I'm going to fight it if it looks like it's getting taken away. I'm playing a "wait and see" approach now. IMO it's too early to make assumptions though. Let's see what Facebook releases from the FF team.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: it's not going to get taken away. It's just not going to get any new features. At least not unless Facebook has a serious change in direction.
- Robert Scoble
Jesse: I can appreciate your position on this, maybe I'm just more of a realist and also know that technology never stands still.
- Owen Greaves
Jesse fighting is not going to do it. The reason for the buyout only they know and they have kept the business plans quiet. So my whole thing is why invest ina service you do not know where it is going anymore?
- Rob Cairns
Robert, we'll see though - if Facebook does something better with it and makes me more productive in the Facebook environment the same way I am here I'll just switch, no questions asked (I'm a Facebook fanboy after all). If not, I hope, and I'll fight, to have FriendFeed continue to release new features after the new Facebook integration is in place.
- Jesse Stay
Rob, because right now it's still the best tool for the job - that's why I still use it at least.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I find FaceBook to laborious, I have to work too hard to make it work and those DAMN Farms & Mafia Games....I mean come on!
- Owen Greaves
Jesse but if everyone leaves it and its dying why invest would you invest money in Geocities right now even if it were the best knowing it was gone in a week or so I doubt it.
- Rob Cairns
Owen, block those requests/applications. Cleans up the wall and the invites.
- Mandy Vavrinak
Owen i avoid all the apps on Facebook that are silly
- Rob Cairns
While everyone is making assumptions, I'm going to pull one out my ass ad say that 'to the world' expands far beyond facebook.com. Using FriendFeed-esque features on your site with a FacebookConnect back end?
- Johnny Worthington
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Johnny, I thought you were on FFundercatation.
- Cristo
Owen, I am a realist. I recognize the current state of things. I'm just trying to keep people positive until we know for sure what's happening. I'm an optimist. People are welcome to their opinions though. I want these tools to continue growing - if that happens on Facebook, great. If it happens on FriendFeed, fine. I don't think anyone knows the long-term strategy yet though (that can reveal it).
- Jesse Stay
Just walking out the door now... I have a floral shirt and flip-flops on :)
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Jesse but unfortunately you/we are not in control if you were I could see it. If so concerned why not fight for control and push yourself for a purchase?
- Rob Cairns
Johnny, yeah - I'm really hoping we get everything we have here in the Facebook environment. Integration of FF into Connect would be awesome. If that happens, I'm totally jumping ship.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: Outside of FriendFeed, what's the thing that gets your fired up?
- Owen Greaves
Owen, Facebook ;-)
- Jesse Stay
~107 comments and only two Likes. Very iiiiiiiiiiiiiinteresting.
- Akiva Moskovitz
lol Jesse
- Rob Cairns
Akiva a good debate stay:)
- Rob Cairns
Now there's only one like. :P
- Cristo
Robert your quiet are you still here?
- Rob Cairns
Why FaceBook, it's not a dumb question, I'm truly curious why you feel FaceBook is the thing that fires you up.
- Owen Greaves
Owen, I think the things Facebook is doing surrounding their developer platform are powerful. Facebook Connect is HUGE. Johnny now has me thinking about FriendFeed and Connect integration - that would be AWESOME! (can you say Wave killer? (maybe))
- Jesse Stay
Rob: no. I'm gone. :-) Actually now I'm really gone to play with the kids.
- Robert Scoble
Have a great night Robert:)
- Rob Cairns
I'm still not sold on WAVE yet, Johnny's got an idea there but that's a temporary thing me thinks
- Owen Greaves
Also, Facebook lets me get into my close relationships - it's the same reason I'm really starting to like FourSquare. It's friends, family, and neighbors - real people. And it allows you to connect with them in ways you never were able to before. It *only* misses a public aspect, but I think that's changing, and *hopefully* FriendFeed is part of that. If not I'd still like them to focus on FriendFeed.com
- Jesse Stay
Jesse the big issue I have with Facebook is it's closed book and its TOS. They seem to close accounts at will with no explanation, they are not consistent, and you can not search Facebook from outside of it.
- Rob Cairns
Robert, I've got your back now - I think we both have the same love for FriendFeed. I also think we both understand FriendFeed isn't releasing new features. This is just the optimist in me speaking out - hopefully that hasn't reflected negatively on you at all. Go have fun with your kids. :-)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse I wish Friend Feed would be a focus I love the service personally but I am also a realist. I am still on FF, I use it every day.
- Rob Cairns
Rob, they have gotten much better with that recently, and they really do listen. Each TOS change is put up for vote before its users, and if enough disagree they change it. What other services do that? Twitter is even worse with account Suspension recently. Have you tried to even contact Twitter support recently? You can't. Account suspension is a huge issue with any growing service trying to keep up with the growth.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse the problem with account suspension is they never give you a reason my other half has been threw it once and we still never received a proper reason. The only way the account was reinstated is she had a paid app and complained to the app provider who was now losing her money. As for the TOS, I still have issues with it now. An account gets deleted and they do not delete the...
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- Rob Cairns
I've updated the post title - some times I just have to think this through. Discussion really helps.
- Jesse Stay
Jesse: I love your PASSION, thanks for putting up with me, I hope you are right because I love FF too
- Owen Greaves
Rob, have you ever tried to enable record deletion on a 300 million+ growing user database? It's a nightmare. It's much simpler to just disable it. Regarding suspension, it's no worse than Twitter - again, it has to do with their size and relative growth rate.
- Jesse Stay
This would be called wiki blogging (viaf FF) arriving at an understanding through the discourse.
- sofarsoShawn
Owen, that's the one thing you can count on from me. I have intense passion for both FF and FB. They both have their places. I can't wait to see what they do with the merger. I will be just as passionate if I disagree with it though. I'm playing wait and see until that happens. I trust the FF team won't abandon us (nor will Facebook)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse & Robert: I'm not nearly as smart as you two but I am a passionate man with convictions, I'm a technology enthusiast that is passionate about the impact technology will have on society.
- Owen Greaves
sofarsoShawn yeah - this would probably be more effective on Wave :-)
- Jesse Stay
Jesse thanks for putting up with us:) I love the service and would really like it to be left alone. The industry does need more passionate people. Yes I do understand databases and what it is like but I also understand you can not toss someone without giving them a proper reason too
- Rob Cairns
Jesse: I don't share the same passion with FaceBook, to be honest, I have been lurking to see how it will improve and the ease of use will also get better
- Owen Greaves
Owen, I suggest spending some time learning it - it has its place. It's not FriendFeed (yet) though.
- Jesse Stay
Rob, I agree - I think they're working on those issues. I know they're aware of them.
- Jesse Stay
I will, on your suggestion I will make an effort. Again, thanks for sharing and listening..I'm gonna call it a night. Keep one thing in mind Jesse: How many people are better off because you lived? That's my life's war cry.
- Owen Greaves
Owen, amen to that
- Jesse Stay
Jesse thanks for caring and for your time:) I think everyone has good points just going to take time to shake out:)
- Rob Cairns
Rob Cairns & I are wacky Canadians so we see things from a different perspective. Silicon valley plays by different rules me thinks.
- Owen Greaves
We're all passionate about this - I just had to get it out of my system (I think this is the first actual post I've put on FriendFeed/Twitter about it)
- Jesse Stay
I'm glued to your Blog via Google Reader so I'll pester you again :) If you ever have the time, please do peek at my site: http://blog.owengreaves.com
- Owen Greaves
Jesse we need more passionate people around just keep being you:)
- Rob Cairns
Rob, as long as you and Owen keep being Canadian. ;-) Owen, subscribed.
- Jesse Stay
Hmmm...what does that mean, keep being CDN? LOL! I carry an axe & snow shoes...oh we live in Igloo's here in the Vancouver area :)
- Owen Greaves
Jesse you got it:) I have not spent 22 years in the Technology business to not care:)
- Rob Cairns
Jesse we will make you an honorary Canadian:)
- Rob Cairns
Rob, I will accept - I already know most of the words to the National Anthem (I had a Canadian friend growing up that forced me to learn them all)
- Jesse Stay
Have a great night Jesse:)
- Rob Cairns
You too Rob!
- Jesse Stay
Heyo Jesse, any idea who I can contact to get more twitter API calls per hour? http://www.victusspiritus.com/2009...
- Mark Essel
I hope friendfeed kicks it up into high gear, but how are they splitting the developers now? (I'd love to use the social media info here as well to learn more about folks with semantic tools). Two -way search and personalized ads :D
- Mark Essel
I don't use facebook for professional social networking/sharing. It's too personal. If FF goes away and integrates with facebook...FF is done for me. That would be too bad because I use FF daily.
- B2B Specialist
But surely the traffic on FriendFeed is way down because you all began saying it was doomed? (a sort of self fulfilling prophecy if you like) It wouldn't be down if you all carried on as normal would it?
- technogran
technogran that's one reason I'm fighting it
- Jesse Stay
Yes many forget that often things are driven by the users and just what they do. If everyone hadn't begun the 'FF is dead' or the 'FF is doomed' stuff and instead concentrated on encouraging more and more folks to use it, then the powers that be can't ignore that. You should all be busy working on 'spreading the word' about FF especially with the mainstream user such as myself.
- technogran
The thing is if you are passionate and love something, then don't abandon it! Instead use your powers of being a user, unite with other users and make that application so popular that the powers that be sit up and take notice!
- technogran
If Robert is back I didn't quite understand why he left. FF is still here. ;-) Either way I'm not worried, there are lots of lovely people left on FF. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
My usage has gone down, but that is mostly just due to not having the time available. Ever since I got this new job and started freelancing more I don't have to time to spend on social networks.
- Mathew™ one of a kind
I'm gonna use FriendFeed much more than I have done in the past and spead the word also encourage others to do the same. Unlike Facebook FF has never really been mainstream has it?
- technogran
Today @scobleizer is slowly but surely starting to convince me to move my activity 100% over to Facebook. Not yet though... :-)
The other tools all still have a place. Facebook is so close though!
- Jesse Stay
Facebook is NOT an option for me when it comes to professional networking. I don't want to see pictures of people eating pies at family picnics. I don't want to see comments from people about Scoble eating pie at a a family picnic. Ask people outside of the social media bubble whether they use Facebook for professional networking.
- B2B Specialist
B2B talk to Mari Smith about that - I bet she'd disagree and can point you to plenty of people that use it as such (as can I - I wrote an entire book about it, in fact)
- Jesse Stay
Though one would think the place to do professional networking is LinkedIn. As for Facebook, it's just one of my many social networking places, and I don't do much there, at least not yet. Most of my activity is on Twitter, FriendFeed, and my blogs. (Eventually I'll have to set up a Facebook page of my own, once I get published myself...)
- Dennis Jernberg
Networking is Facebook's best-kept secret. It can be much more effective than LinkedIn if used right, although both have their place.
- Jesse Stay
RT: Looking for a facebook like application for private social networking/connecting..must include presence indicator
Man this went over like a lead balloon on Twitter!
- B2B Specialist
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