protest letter to journals with extra fees for fast-track peer reviewing http://groups.google.com/group... initiated by Alex Holcombe, signed by 18, sent 26 April 2011
"there are many opportunities to achieve better dissemination and comprehension of our science, and as producers of that output I believe authors have a responsibility to see it used in the best possible way."
Philip E. Bourne 2010, doi:10.1371/journal.pcbi.1000787
Pawel says: "Claudia, wouldn't be that cool if following your idea, publishers paid to authors to have best papers published in their journal? :)" - next question: do authors want to be paid? do reviewers? do - ehhh, readers want to be paid by journals, maybe? what would be the corollary?
via http://friendfeed.com/freesci... where I replied to Pawel's complaint re waiting too long for peer review by suggesting: >"put all papers in Arxiv" + keep us updated which journals approach you to ask if they may use your papers for their branding exercises ;-) - I consider THIS a possible procedure for authors to self-determine the visibility of their outcome - didn't it work like this in the early days of arxiv? any data available on this?"<
- Claudia Koltzenburg
http://ff.im/paHrB Because supplements didn't contain anything useful anyway... who needs to see the actual equations, data, or code? No mention of central databases like dataONE. link from @EvoMRI - Carl Boettiger from Bookmarklet
- Claudia Koltzenburg
http://ff.im/oG5Ya "...embedded movies or three-dimensional models, both online and in downloaded PDFs. This change eliminates the only essential role of supplemental material." (from http://www.jneurosci.org/cgi... ) - so far so good, and what about embedding the movies in the HTML? (via http://ff.im/pa3aT ). - Daniel Mietchen
- Claudia Koltzenburg
http://ff.im/p8oTF ...feel like adding a new one: why not put data first? and put up the text as "supplementary material"? no, am not being 100% serious, what I mean is this: why privilege one format over another at all? they're all bytes after all, and if they are relevant to what the author(s) want to tell the world - let's have'em all. And in the open, of course. - Claudia Koltzenburg
- Claudia Koltzenburg
http://ff.im/p8oTF this is definitely part of my reaction. I guess I've only thought about the consumer's side of supplemental materials, not the producers. - Christina Pikas
- Claudia Koltzenburg
http://ff.im/p8XnK agree "Specifically, I’m thinking that the disciplinary differences in what supplemental materials contain and how they’re treated might be important." -- brilliant questions, thanks, "What is in the supplemental material?" hm, any format of bytes, so maybe plain text, too? - Claudia Koltzenburg
- Claudia Koltzenburg
http://ff.im/p7twO Once again, we see the limitations of the traditional printed journal article. There are 2 issues here: (1) it's just "data", not "supplementary data" and (2) traditionally, it's only labelled "supplemental" because it won't fit in the (no longer relevant) space constraints of the main article. When articles become fully online and consist mainly of the data, all of this nonsense will go away :-) - Neil Saunders
- Claudia Koltzenburg
http://ff.im/oG5Ya Yikes! J. Neurosci is discontinuing reviewing and archiving supplementary materials because they've gotten too large? because nothing can go wrong with scientists hosting the data themselves... - Carl Boettiger
- Claudia Koltzenburg
Peer Review and Reputation Systems: A Discussion, Journal of Participatory Medicine (Podcast with transcripts) -- http://www.patientpower.info/JoPM... -- 1. Defining the Problems and Issues with Peer Review Today -- 2. Light Versus Heavy Peer Review -- 3. Transparency in Peer Review -- 4. Wikipedia-Style Peer Review…and Rating/Reputation Systems...
Alex Jadad says in 6. "We should experiment in collaboration with other groups, especially those groups that are using social networking tools" -- well, I agree ;-)
- Claudia Koltzenburg
should be great to hear about any other field of research where someone is (keen on) setting up a similar path with subject repository via a journal (or any other way to get to the open subject repository) - or has any other idea of how to close gaps/ overcome barriers in the knowledge environments -- Link for Claudia's CTT Journal/ Open...
Kirsop: "contribute their essential and unique knowledge to the world’s information pool", "filling the S to N knowledge gap" "For economically poor countries, the development of the fastest, lowest cost route to open access is a ‘no brainer’. It’s a major priority." http://epublishingtrust.blogspot.com/2009... (via...
Also of possible interest: a 2005 study showed that 75% of toll-access journals DO charge author-side fees (http://www.alpsp.org/ngen_pu...), and I have tried to estimate the average author-side fee charged by TA journals (see http://www.sennoma.net/main...) -- the figure I arrived at is $909 - $1136 per article, which is consistent with the handful of self-reported figures I have been able to find.
- Bill Hooker
Remember that the author-side income is in addition to subscription income for these TA journals; I updated a 2004 study by Philip Davis and came up with an estimated average subscription cost per article of $970 - $1750. My data point to the upper figure being the more reliable, so that gives us $1879 to $2886, with a better guess of $2659 to $2886, as the likely per-article income...
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- Bill Hooker
That is roughly consistent with the charges levied by most hybrid programs (TA journals which will, for an extra fee, make an article OA), most of which cost around $3000.
- Bill Hooker
journal makers: show immediately which references are OA (one example: http://www.ctt-journal.com/1-3-en-...). If you don't, you place a larger burden on those who cannot overcome toll-access barriers. If you do, less privileged colleagues may save time, too :-)
author/reader: well, I would use the original if it was easily available... well, now positive for: 1909 'stem cell' article by Maximow #openaccess here (in German, English and Russian): http://www.ctt-journal.com/content...
Publishing abroad: Fair trade or short sell for non-English-speaking authors? A Spanish study [1976-1987] (published in 1995) - http://www.springerlink.com/content... - any recent experiences from Spain or anywhere else?