but that's exactly what Sundays are for. .LOLz!
- .LAG liked that
(and Saturdays) it's been slothathon here at the household.
- anna sauce
iCouch. Not to be confused with iCooch.
- Spidra Webster
Niece: "OK, so would you rather have a 3-Musketeers, Smarties, or a Snickers? I would have 3-Musketeers because I like to mush up the insides and it's like what play dough woudl taste like, if it was candy. So it's a candy, and a toy, in one."
experiment: I get on the couch, beckon cat, she looks at me and goes back to licking herself. I start to reach for powerbook, she runs to the couch and immediately jumps between me and screen. I put it back down, she sits by herself and licks herself. I pick up... you see where this is going.
"California is ceded to the U.S. People living in the territory, with the exception of Native Americans, are granted U.S. citizenship. The treaty gave the U.S. the land from Texas to Oregon, and completed the American vision of Manifest Destiny -- one nation from the Atlantic to the Pacific."
- anna sauce
from Bookmarklet
Seems so bizarre to exclude Native Americans, by definition
- anna sauce
I think it's because they're considered to be a part of a soverign nation, Anna.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Were they considered to be that in 1848? I think it's just out and out racism, along with a little fear. There's another official act that said you could enforce labor onto any native American that was "loitering"
- anna sauce
10 years before this native americans population was 500K to 5K white non-natives.
- anna sauce
California history is a long tract of racial injustice, giving Nazi Germany a run for it's money. And this is from a "native" lol I just found this researching something else and thought it was... odd to obviously exclude native americans from a pretty broad repatriation.
- anna sauce
I don't know when the soverign status was first set in motion, so I'm guessing racism is it.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Another weird thing is that California was anti-slavery, and that was an issue with the balance of power in Congress and some claimed it was part of the reason for Civil War.
- anna sauce
Tina- interesting, just read this in "federal indian law" back to 1831: According to the theory of sovereignty in federal Indian law, "tribal" peoples have a lesser form of "sovereignty," which is not really sovereignty at all, but dependence. In the words of Chief Justice John Marshall in Cherokee Nation v. Georgia (1831), American Indian societies, though they are "nations" in the...
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- anna sauce
I guess you can call it racism, but it's not specifically targeted at Californians. At the time, only whites were eligible for citizenship, and Mexican-born Californians were considered "white." It wasn't until 1866 that Federal laws allowed anyone born in the US and not tied to a foreign sovereign power (like most tribes) to have citizenship.
- Mark Trapp
also interesting: "The Mexican Republic's 1824 constitution declared Indians to be citizens with rights to both vote and hold public office. Despite this liberal declaration, Indians throughout the republic continued to be treated as slaves."
- anna sauce
California was ceded to US in 1848, so native americans were Mexicans acc. to the above.
- anna sauce
fascinating: "Mexican forced labor and violence at the hands of the militia and paramilitary slave hunting parties account for a significant amount of the population decline suffered by California Indians. On the eve of the American take-over the aboriginal population of approximately 310,000 had been reduced to about 150,000. This gut wrenching 50% decline had occurred in just 77...
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- anna sauce
I always find it quite sad that the genocide of the Native Americans gets so little coverage in courses. In my eyes, the only difference between the genocide of the Native Americans and the genocide comitted by the Nazi's was the time scale - because of that, the Nazi one took on an industrialised approach that rightfully horrified those who saw it. The genocide against the Native...
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- alphaxion
Nothing in the treaty says that Native Americans who were citizens of Mexico at the time of the treaty are no longer citizens. In fact, it says "The Mexicans who, in the territories aforesaid, shall not preserve the character of citizens of the Mexican Republic, conformably with what is stipulated in the preceding Article, shall be incorporated into the Union of the United States, and...
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- Mark Trapp
"The handiwork of these well armed death squads combined with the widespread random killing of Indians by individual miners resulted in the death of 100,000 Indians in the first two years of the gold rush. A staggering loss of two thirds of the population. Nothing in American Indian history is even remotely comparable to this massive orgy of theft and mass murder. Stunned survivors now perhaps numbering fewer than 70,000 teetered near the brink of total annihilation."
- anna sauce
the above is after calif. became US and gold rush was declared, which was (debatably) at the same time
- anna sauce
"Meanwhile, Congress had created a commission to validate land tittles in California. The commission was required by law to both inform the Indians that it would be necessary to file claims for their lands and report upon the nature of these claims. Because no one bothered to inform the Indians of these requirements, no claims were submitted. Through this neat trick, the federal...
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- anna sauce
I don't think that the US, when repatriating Californios, thought of Indians as soveriegn. I think they though to of them as un-Christian, the enemy, and less smart.
- anna sauce
I think the treaty with Mexico didn't include their ongoing war with the Native Americans.
- anna sauce
the writing candle has been lit, a cheesy tool which marks an inability to concentrate and a word debt in Nanowrimo.
Swedish hip hop. I suppose there had to be some.
- Spidra Webster
Oh it's soo good, don't even diss it.
- anna sauce
No diss on the Swedes. I'm not much of a fan of hip hop no matter who's doing it. There are exceptions, but by and large it's not a genre I'm fond of. (I did buy the Movits album, though.)
- Spidra Webster