It's been 2.5 years since Facebook acquired Friendfeed. Let's raise a glass for a moment and give thanks that the service is still running. I can't think of another acquired service that has continued on so well in a mothballed state.
I am still in awe at how well FriendFeed was designed and implemented. Even mothballed, it remains light years ahead of the rest. Well done, Ana, Ben, Ben, Bret, Casey, Dan, Gary, Goutham, Jim, Kevin, Paul, Ross, Sanjeev and Tudor!
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
Yup. Even with little maintenance, it's still a better tool than anything else out there. Yet people keep going to whatever the "new black" is...
- Spidra Webster
The FriendFeed team are like prophets of social networking interfaces or something and don't seem to get credit for it. It's amazing how all the hot new ish is still borrowing from FriendFeed and FriendFeed's illegitimate children.
- Rahsheen?
Hear, hear. (But let's not jinx it.)
- Steele Lawman
shhhhhh! someone at FB will hear you and remember it's still going! ;)
- holly #ravingfangirl
I'm glad it's still here. I hope we continue, unnoticed in a dark corner of the Internet and the Facebook data center.
- Eric - seven eleven
Stephen, I liked that you alphabetized the employee roster, but you need to swap #2 and #3.
- Kevin Fox
Love it, Akiva! "We've switched off the datacenters one by one and FF is still running. *shrug* So be it."
- Kevin Fox
I really wish I'd trusted those folks who speculated that things would keep cranking along... I'd actually have suggested FF as a platform for a couple different online communities. You suppose we're at a steady state at this point?
- Ken Sheppardson
He sometimes wakes up from a deep sleep with the word 'FriendFeed' on his lips. He's usually covered in sweat. Don't ask me how I know this.
- Akiva
I'm one of the folks who speculated that things would keep cranking along. But I also thought Facebook would succeed in bringing a near-FriendFeed experience to Facebook in two years. I was wrong about that. Today I'm concerned that the original team doesn't use it as much -- Paul comes in and Likes things (April's gone), Bret is barely here. I think it would be easy for FB to let it go. But I'm thankful it's lasted this long.
- Bruce Lewis
Would be pretty killer if they got around to open sourcing the whole thing.
- Ken Sheppardson
Akiva: No, Tornado's just part of the system. I want to install a turn-key, behind the firewall FriendFeed system in much the same way I'd install Wordpress or Drupal.
- Ken Sheppardson
FF like service for companies? Groups for projects and depts...
- Me
Yep. I'd kill to have FriendFeed in place of IRC, Campfire, Yammer, etc... Although come to think of it, Yammer might be the closest.
- Ken Sheppardson
Yammer doesn't look like its self-hostable which I know many enterprises would prefer to control and "own" the data.
- Me
Ha-ha, Micah, Mothball is a great name for some kind of cloud storage! As far as FF NOT being mothballed, it may have something to do with Bret having a soft spot for it and his being so high up in the Facebook hierarchy.
- Laura Norvig
I like to imagine the friendfeed servers being like WOPR from War Games 2. Sitting all alone in some remote location, completely forgotten, nobody has any idea what it really is, just chugging along.
- April Russo
I just remember how excited I was when this tool started out. Now I essentially use the e-mail digests to see the latest posts, but haven't had the heart to discontinue them. The service definitely struck a chord with many of us.
- Phil Ashman
Facebook is down (in Europe, at least), but FriendFeed is up. :)
- Jemm
Facebook is up now, so is FriendFeed (reporting from Istanbul :)
- Nevzat
Ken, self-hosted FriendFeed would really interesting for companies. Yes, yammer works (we use it,) but isn't a *great* real-time conversation tool what one would really want? Add to that owning the data and it's a winner. Based on its performance in "mothballed" state, I'd hope the person $$ in administration would be low, too...
- Eric Borisch
Maybe we shouldn't have said anything. Seems flakey today. Maybe they're getting things cleaned up to release it as OSS! :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Tell them, tell them the stories. Tell the children about the great social network. Let them learn and build a better future. #soapbox
- Eric - seven eleven
"But ask any startup around what they really do need right now, and the answer is clear — great technical talent. Startups of all sizes are competing for a small pool of highly skilled candidates, and in startup hubs like San Francisco and New York the competition for engineers is fierce. This scarcity has persisted despite consistently high national unemployment rates. And because it has become so easy and cheap to start a startup, convincing great engineers to join an existing startup has gotten much harder."
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
Well, you could locate in Mountain View. :-) But startups aren't doing that, which leads to twitter's situation, for instance. http://piaw.blogspot.com/2011...
- Piaw Na
a fantastic introduction to getting started with python stuff. I wish most languages (hello Ruby and JavaScript/node.js) had a document like this
- Jeremy Zawodny
"Besides the potential financial gains of getting out and coming back, there is a more important aspect, in my opinion, of getting a new job, career or opportunity and that’s learning new ways of doing things, new methodologies, new work styles, new technologies, new work environments, etc. It’s much harder to know how to improve your city if you only lived in the same place your entire life. Once you lived in multiple places, you start to form a much better understanding: what’s important, what’s not, what could be improved, what you like and what you don’t like."
- Amit Patel
from Bookmarklet
Wow, thanks a ton for sharing this.
- Space Cowboy
Facebook doesn't have to worry, but Twitter does.
- Piaw Na
I still find the Tweetdeck acquisition mildly confusing, in that the speed of app updates has slowed to a crawl since. Shouldn't Twitter want its app team to keep the app up to date?
- Andrew C (✓)
I do, as does, I suspect, anyone else who doesn't wish to live in a fish bowl. Facebook makes it hard to share and view sublists, Google+ makes it an integral part of the experience.
- Tinfoil 2.0
I do and was doing it with email distribution lists long before 'social' networks and likely doing it in my head well before that. I do admit I'm abnormal and not likely in any 'target market'
- John
Oddly enough, LogEx, until a few days ago my Google Profile said I lived in a Fish Bowl. To me the Google+'s Circles aren't any different from Facebook's Groups, or Friendfeed's Rooms, in functionality. Really hate curating friend lists, but Circles do make it easier.
- Gimminy
Come live in in a country where the divides between people really force you to curate such lists.
- Can Özmen
All of the Friendfeed librarians (FFribrarians?).
- Laura Norvig
One of the reasons Gmail succeeded is that people really hated sorting email messages into folders. Now Google+ wants us to sort people into folders.
- Tudor Bosman
Tudor: First thing I did upon switching from Y! to Gmail was set up filters to imitate all my folders from Y! Most of them skip the inbox & go right to their folder.
- Lisa | #TeamMonique
from Android
Friend lists are very valuable - to you. Because of my friend lists, most of you are spared from seeing all of my Facebook game updates.
- John E. Bredehoft
Err, Gmail didn't have folders, instead if had/has labels, so there's no exclusivity. Similarly with circles -- I have many people in 2 or more circles. I just want set operations!
- Phil Pennock
Phil: If you set up the filters in Gmail, the labels act like folders. That's all I was saying. Clearly, not very well...
- Lisa | #TeamMonique
from Android
I do. And have been since FriendFeed arrived on the since. Works just great. There not groups btw, they are friends lists. G+ doesn't have groups yet, but desperately needs them to compete with FriendFeed,
- Kol Tregaskes
I know friends who WON'T use Gmail because it doesn't have folders.
- Lisa | #TeamMonique
Seems simple to me. If you only have six friends, you make six circles and suddenly you feel like you have a page full of friends
- Le Slip Anglais
I want to remind you guys something, GMail is not the most popular free web based mail product. It is still Yahoo Mail.
- Ozgur Demir
Cristo, Phil: it's not about labels vs. folders, it's the fact that you don't have to categorize your email; archive now, search later.
- Tudor Bosman
Friends, not acquaintances, basically come in two flavors: one, they're interested in you for what you mean to them regardless of topic; two, they're interested in you for what you share in interest(s), i.e. topics. With circles one can deal with that division well.
- Sharon Stevenson
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- Paul Buchheit
from Bookmarklet
"Here’s a startling experiment: rats prefer saccharine and sugar to intravenous cocaine, even after previously becoming addicted to cocaine."
- Gabe
It was actually a more general thought, nothing to do with FriendFeed. On the topic of ff, my only real complaint is that people haven't copied it enough :)
- Paul Buchheit