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hat jemand eine Quelle wo steht wieviele Leute auf Twitter nur lesen, aber selbst nix schreiben? Danke!
Have a look here: http://www.sysomos.com/insidet... and here: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- Bastian
Drop of water at 2000 fps (very cool) - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Eren Emre Kanal, Dan Hsiao, durbin and 74 other people liked this
This is pretty cool.
- Bastian
I didn't see this segment, but I was watching this special in my hotel room when I was at the society of rheology conference. It made me think that I need a high speed camera. For science, of course ;)
- Clare Dibble
This is very cool. I'd like to see it with other liquids, and water with different this mixed in. Like soap for instance, which messes with the surface tension...what happens then?
- Bill Scherer
hi
- soso
Are there any liquids that don't have surface tension?
- Gabe
My husband and I are addicted to the show Time Warp: random things done in front of high speed cameras. The oldies but goodies like popping a water balloon are stil my favorite...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
That's amazing, which is why science rocks! :)
- imabonehead
Love it! I want to have 2000 fps water drops as my screensaver.
- EricaJoy
Very cool!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Amazing. What else would be interesting to visualize at 2000 fps?
- Philippe
True beauty
- Инк Лонгтан
from iPhone
There is only as much beauty in nature as you can appreciate and not a grain more. thoreau
- Robert Higgins
+Bill I wanna see Quicksilver or Mercury at 2000 FPS
- Robert Higgins
Я предпологал!!!! :) Теперь я знаю!!!!
- atner
Gillmor Gang recording live 1PM Pacific http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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Looks like Bret Taylor of Facebook is talking with the Gang....
- Cliff Gerrish
Hopefully Bret shows up. Otherwise we'll be forced to talk about Twitter's new lists feature and you know where THAT will lead!
- Robert Scoble
I want to get a few words in about http://bit.ly/Spawn on Gillmor Gang today
- Kevin Marks
we will start in a minute.
- Robert Scoble
Only 13 viewers?
- beersage
Gillmor Gang is recorded live in front of a live studio audience.
- Cliff Gerrish
Oops, missed my calendar notification for this week's episode.
- Matt Mastracci
The names have not been changed to protect the innocent...
- Aron Michalski
Gillmor Gang is recorded live in front of a real-time web audience...
- Kevin Marks
I'm happy to see a simplification of the Facebook API. That's one issue I've always had with the platform. The initial learning curve is very steep.
- Matt Mastracci
Scoble still wants to port your email address out of Facebook...
- Cliff Gerrish
I don't have enough friends in my email address book to make Scoble's screen look busy enough
- Aron Michalski
I did a little hacking on this with @bradfitz's code at http://unmung.appspot.com
- Kevin Marks
The question is should Scoble be able to send your email address to another platform, or another application.
- Cliff Gerrish
Do I have to agree to TOS with Scoble or does he have to agree with me?
- Aron Michalski
Facebook is the intermediary. Although you have a social contact with Scoble.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: I did a brute force workaround. I just manually copied the email addresses I wanted into Outlook myself.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it's the programatic access that can lead to looting of addess books.
- Cliff Gerrish
The TOS doesn't forbid me from doing that and it only took a few hours.
- Robert Scoble
Cliff: yeah, but sorry, if you are a spammer you just go to Mechanical Turk and pay someone to do it.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, I agree. But the question is should Facebook facilitate the process?
- Cliff Gerrish
Putting money in front of a spammer's problem will reduce the amount of spam dramatically (which is why spammer probably won't use mturk). Maybe Facebook should charge per-user/per-transaction fees to extract email addresses?
- Matt Mastracci
"Facebook is an identity platform." Very interesting competitive landscape -- Twitter, Google, MSFT, Comcast?
- Cliff Gerrish
"Your inside is out, and your outside is in"
- Cliff Gerrish
Comcast? You mean Plaxo?
- Ken Sheppardson
"Open Graph API" is a really confusing name for adding webpages to FB as feeds
- Kevin Marks
Actually I'm thinking of Comcast making Cable available through the Network for its users.
- Cliff Gerrish
And the topic of attention and identity which were of interest to a small group of us is now an issue for a very large group of users.
- Aron Michalski
Haven't checked the roadmap but I wonder if there will be more possibilities for API use with pages and not just the main FB friend stream.
- beersage
Seems like financial institutions have a better identity play, but they're hopeless with this kind of thing. Credit Cards have a jump on it. Telecoms could also have an opening.
- Cliff Gerrish
Does the open graph address pages or items in a stream?
- Cliff Gerrish
Anyone ask about the problem of Facebook owning our social graph?
- Kurt Jarchow
so FB's "Open Graph API" is the opposite of the Social Graph API that reveals existing connections.
- Kevin Marks
This aspect is interesting, in that presence on the internet for a long time could be anonymous and now the value will be from having a unified ID.
- Aron Michalski
So it Bret saying it's just marketing spin at this point? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
You'll see that the owners of the pipe, the bankers and the retailers all want to know who we are so they can get paid.
- Aron Michalski
can we identify the source of the metadata item and allow for filtering of what's a valid linkage?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert, are you coming out for SideWiki for Facebook profiles?
- Cliff Gerrish
:-)
- Robert Scoble
wonder if Bret saw the Realtime chat games orkut launched http://code.google.com/apis...
- Kevin Marks
shared labels - is what i would like to see
- Bastian
For 'movies' shouldn't I just be able to pipe my Netflix data over?
- Cliff Gerrish
Netflix already exports Activity Streams of your movies - FB should read them
- Kevin Marks
Yes, rather than building a new and separate data set. Our combining the sets.
- Cliff Gerrish
Bret really shouldn't speak of FriendFeed in the past tense.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: FriendFeed is not getting new engineering work.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah he said "was"...
- Bastian
It's often more revealing to hear how people talk about things indirectly than to hear them answer direct questions.
- Ken Sheppardson
better late than never...i'll have to catch the first 30 minutes on replay.
- Karoli
Friendfeed's conversations aren't duplicated by any of the other players.
- Cliff Gerrish
Why would FB buy FF if they weren't headed down that road? To use it or kill it?
- Aron Michalski
Interesting to hear the idea of protocols driven by User Interfaes in the realtime space.
- Cliff Gerrish
FriendFeed is still rolling out features: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- LogEx
I totally agree with Robert. The Friendfeed search is incredibly powerful and useful.
- Karoli
Permalinks for stream items is a critical feature.
- Cliff Gerrish
how long has Bret been in the FB world :) - he's being asked questions about future growth and planning that he may not have even been in the meetings that cover those new items yet :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
FB conversations are fractured, across different pages and places. Mobile experience can be a cul de sac of death for a conversation...
- Aron Michalski
my criticism of Facebook has nothing to do with the stream. it has to do with the mashup of everyone I've ever known in my entire life.
- Karoli
i think it's great that i see other people's comments when i comment on an item on FB
- Bastian
I'd like my stream to show me things that I initially reject, and then later come to accept.
- Cliff Gerrish
Facebook represents my "real" social network only as it existed 25 years ago.
- Ken Sheppardson
we need more depth as to what a "friend" is - need to factor in FOAF items
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Ken, i wish it was that way. It has pieces of every aspect and social graph I've had for my entire life.
- Karoli
I'm starting to realize and appreciate Robert as an underdamped dynamic system, oscillating wildly but eventually settling/converging on a steady signal, e.g. the comments today on Wave vs the initial reaction. And I mean that as a compliment, Robert :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
There is plenty of conversations I am glad to leave off of FB; 90% of the people from my past have no clue about any of what we are discussing and don't care.
- Aron Michalski
Ken, yea - that's a great way to describe him. I agree that he should take it as a compliment
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I do.
- Robert Scoble
Again, it is easy to bring content into FB but why can't I subscribe to an RSS feed of a page like I can w/ a Twitter user?
- beersage
my problem: 90% of the people I have contact with in real life have me friended on FB and HATE my politics, leaving me with fluffy little bullshit updates. No conversation. Just nonsense.
- Karoli
The FB pipes need to be full duplex.
- Cliff Gerrish
I think the part of FF we'll never see in FB is the basic lack of walls in FF and the philosophy that anything and everything can flow freely into and out of the system.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, FF may be the outside part of FB.
- Cliff Gerrish
how is the spewing of netflix queuing any different that all of those mafia wars or farm app updates I get on FB ;)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
If that's the case, Cliff, I'd like to see them embrace that. I may have missed a bunch of signals, but I'm still working on the assumption that FF is feature frozen and will be subsumed into FB.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm glad that neither FF or FB or Twitter will be the hot new toy we all talk about this time next year!
- Bastian
Bastian: Twitter is about to release more new features than it has EVER released. Are you sure we won't be talking about them in a year?
- Robert Scoble
Bastian, where would be talking about whatever we'll be talking about.
- Cliff Gerrish
By the way, Tina says 'hi' to the chat...
- Cliff Gerrish
Robert, only if Twitter survives their own creativity and popularity
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
We should have OpenFF any day now... :-/
- Ken Sheppardson
hi back at Tina :)
- Karoli
Robert is raring to have a discussion about Twitter lists. :)
- beersage
bear: I'm pretty sure that in a year we'll be doing Twitter. Two years, though? Maybe not. Things don't change that fast when they have such momentum.
- Robert Scoble
I'm loving this shot of the studio. Rock on.
- Karoli
Robert: Twitter maybe, but i'm even more excited about new third party tools build on Tiwtter. Even so everything i was told from the people i know at Twitter, there are cool things coming.
- Bastian
yea, that was a great studio shot - nice layout
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
"talking a little about"... so, it's not imminent :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Generalizing twitter to many kinds of Activity Streams is interesting, and I hope Bret picks up on that
- Kevin Marks
The thing about FF & Twitter is that they make it possible to curate a stream of a niche topic and put it into context w/ other content on a website. Lost of potential. With FB, you cant use any valuable stream there outside. Still a walled garden.
- beersage
I have to say, time listening to the Gillmor Gang is always well spent!
- Bastian
yay sponsors!
- Karoli
bye all
- Karoli
good show
- Jamie
Hah, Kevin got cut off. That was a short edition.
- beersage
great show - I am loving the increase in quality discussion and the decrease in loud noises - thanks!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
http://bit.ly/Spawn is Ribbit's launch next Thursday
- Kevin Marks
Defrag is week after next - agenda: http://defragcon.com/2009...
- Kevin Marks
Um @mashable if you think Cliqset is FriendFeed done right I have a bridge to sell you. Looks like a clone without FF's best features.
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Damn, this article so misses the mark it isn't even funny.
- Robert Scoble
i agree robert
- andy brudtkuhl
Tech reporters should need to do their homework before writing headlines like this: http://mashable.com/2009... this is the worst article I've ever seen Mashable write.
- Robert Scoble
Mashable should pull that article and do a better job of editing before they publish.
- Hugh Briss
More discussion here: http://friendfeed.com/tad...
- Robert Scoble
Hugh: my problem is 70% with the headline, but 30% with the lack of effort to understanding FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, i know you are not the biggest Wave fan yet, but have you tried looking into the public waves? Just add: public@a.gwave.com as a contact, then define a search for example "with:public@a.gwave.com" and you get the full stream. We have a fun discussion over at Hacker News: http://www.victusspiritus.com/2009... I guess you probably know about it already :)
- Bastian
Yes, Public Waves are interesting. But far too geeky. If Mashable writers complain they don't get FriendFeed well, then, they have no hope of getting Google Wave.
- Robert Scoble
I agree, silly article about Cliqset.
- Bastian
If your going to compare something to something else at least try and give me a grid or something to show the features differences. Cnet's prize fights or Louis Gray's excellent article on twitter clients http://blog.louisgray.com/2009... are examples of how it should be done.
- Luke Kilpatrick
totally agree, the problem with Cliqset is that they will now be always labelled as a friendfeed clone.. people should move away from putting a clone stamp on services and let them be their own value.
- Jaap Willem
RT @Christina Warren: Oh FriendFeed Mafia. Calling people who don't get your service dumb is a real way to win friends and influence people
- Wins Fern
Wins: another inaccuracy. No one ever called her "dumb." I called her article the worst Mashable has ever written. But they are not the same thing.
- Robert Scoble
I bet it would be pretty easy to find worse Mashable articles. Given the site's longevity and frequency of publishing, they are no doubt out there. But it would make sense that if you were set up to present a case as an authority figure/journalist, you would have a good idea of the services being compared, and that's not the case here.
- Louis Gray
BTW, thanks Luke. I didn't see your link until now, but I agree! :)
- Louis Gray
Louis: y ou are probably right but this is one I know a bit about so can be authoritative on pointing it out. I don't remember anything with a more incorrect headline on Mashable, though.
- Robert Scoble
I like this one: "How would you insult Robert Scoble?" http://friendfeed.com/mashabl...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Twitter is in a brownout.
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wondered if it was just me...
- walidmREALTOR
but no fail whale :)
- Kashif Khan
On a positive note, we just got Foursquare in London today.
- Bastian
looks like about 3 hours now...
- walidmREALTOR
my server side states show no timeline updates for 3 hours but some search updates. also if you go directly to some peoples pages it's hit-or-miss if their timeline shows updates. Nothing mentioned on the IRC dev channel and one status.twitter.com update an hour ago about it. But the feed from twitter to friendfeed is working partially.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Working fine from here so far today.
- Kathy Fitch
from iPhone
Kathy: it looks like it is working but it is not.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Thought it was just me.
- Darrel Davis
I got a fail whale! Woo Hoo!!!! oh wait.. =(
- RAD Moose
lol...Something is clogging the Twitter stream! - CNET News
- walidmREALTOR
Now why would someone think it was "just me" when Twitter has an issue? LOL
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
It's weird, because the API seems to still be working. I sent a tweet and it went out to FF and FB.
- Veronica
My bad
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
Veronica: yes but something is really screwed up.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I really don't understand lotsa funding is poured in already for twitter and still cannot manage to cope with data
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Gotcha--haven't really been active there today. Mostly just auto feeding fb updates.
- Kathy Fitch
from iPhone
I asked about it. What's happening at Twitter?
- Helge V. Keitel
Sunny: funding takes a while to turn into new machines and architectures and such.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, I wasn't disagreeing with you.
- Veronica
Robert: may be you are right but they need to better accelerate the conversion
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
I wasn't disagreeing with you either! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Na fail whale for me, but retrieving tweets from any client seems impossible, posting from clients drags slower than snail mail, and twitter site takes ages to load, but it does load. It's been on like this since yesterday. I dont know what the problem is, but likely another hack attack. Time has come Twitter learned how to deal with bot attacks already! Grrr.
- Olivia Lovag
Yup...last updates over 3 hours ago. Oops!
- Kathy Fitch
from iPhone
And this is future of Twitter?
- W. Kirk Crawford
has there been a phenomenon like twitter ever?
- ffcode
It's been this way between twitter and FriendFeed for a long time: http://friendfeed.com/mediaph...
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
My personal updates up to twitter ... but I am not seeing the updates of those I follow. This applies to the API and the Web page. Rather vexing. Using FF as a stand in while Twitter sorts itself out.
- Caleb
I would suggest that there is ZERO or NO truth to the rumor that Twitter is browning out because Jesse and I were at their HQ yesterday. NO truth to it. NONE.
- Louis Gray
Louis - did you guys sabotage Twitter HQ?
- andy brudtkuhl
Twitter up ?
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Things have been eerily quiet...hmmm
- Jerry Perez
Quiet be4 the holidays coming into the full force
- polou/indigo_bow
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ at service for those who wondered if it was “just me”.
- Кто это тут у нас
ahh - via status.twitter.com "We are currently investigating a problem causing many users’ timelines to be delayed. We will update with status here shortly."
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Same here. No updates for 2 hours...
- Bastian
My FitBit has arrived. Will it encourage me to get in shape? Or is it yet another intrusion into privacy? Let's discuss here:
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http://www.fitbit.com This is a small device you carry with you. It keeps track of your activity during the day. The website asks you to keep track of other things like what you are eating. It shows you how you are doing every day. Oh, and you can share this too. I'm really wondering whether I should. On one side the peer pressure would help me get into exercising. On the other side I really don't want my lack of exercise to be part of the public discourse. :-)
- Robert Scoble
awesome. Can't wait to see the six pack
- Zee.
I can't wait to get mine...still waiting...
- Mike Bracco
Zee is right, you probably look like Lou Ferrigno soon!
- Bastian
The next piece of the puzzle would be to have something that auto-registers all the calories you eat and not have it be a manual process. I've used the Daily Burn and their iPhone app but it's still a rather manual process. While the fitbit is cool for seeing cals burned, you really need the other side of the equation of cals consumed to really see what's going on.
- Mike Bracco
Bastian: that's not very probable. In High School I ran two hours every day and did four marathons and I didn't look anything like Lou Ferrigno, but I sure was in shape!
- Robert Scoble
Robert FitBit is a good idea because it's when you loose track of your eating patterns & activity that you gain weight. Keeping fit is really a life long goal. It's not a "Oh I lost 25 pounds, I reached my goal weight and now I'm gonna quit working out". When you quit the weight sneaks up on you. "Just like a spider" :)
- Jeunelle Foster
Without knowing the effects of our actions or habits - how do we really know what to change in our lifestyles? If used consistently, the Fitbit provides great Personal Metrics that can help you see what you could do to improve your lifestyle. The Fitbit really turns the process of staying (or getting) healthy into something that's measurable and interactive - seamlessly (and relatively effortlessly) blending the technology with lifestyle.
- Sarah Doody
Mike; I'm a dailyburn user too, I'm just wondering how they could make it easier to track your food intake? The barcode scanning iphone was the best solution I could think of, any suggestions?
- Steven Cains
Back to the original topic, I think peer pressure motivates us all. A long time ago I brought a rowing machine from Concept2 that let me upload my data (via USB) to the manufacturer's site to track my results. You could also share your results and become part of an online leaderboard. Certainly helped motivate me
- Steven Cains
I think for personal use and ways to improve your health it's a great idea; however, controlling the data and where it does is a must. I blog about many such devices and there are insurance companies who offer discounts to employees who agree to participate in wellness program that review and get involved in the process, so make sure you know where your data goes and who gets to see it,...
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- Barbara Duck
Steven: Yeah I definitely agree that the barcode scanning is the best solution today. When I said making it easier I was really talking about big picture/way down the road tech that doesn't' exist today. It would have to be some sort of nano-bot in your body that sampled food and registered caloric information upon consumption. Obviously something that doesn't exist today :)
- Mike Bracco
UCLA has a program/study where they are looking at participatory sensing with devices that report data, how do we work with them without disruption and stay within privacy laws, this is going to get real interesting as this area grows. http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2009...
- Barbara Duck
Steve, I also used to log my rowing workouts with Concept2 - I agree, great motivation. That's element of competition - whether against self or others - certainly moves us to make changes in our habits. Another thing I've noticed - with all the location based tools (such as Foursquare) - this element of peer motivation is become more common. For example, if I get a notification that my...
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- Sarah Doody
Robert: as for you question about privacy, Google can already track every website you search for. To me, that is a lot more personal than how many calories I burned today or how long my run was. Obviously my health records are a different issue but the info that fitbit captures about you is not that sensitive or a big risk - IMHO.
- Mike Bracco
I know some people will hate this idea but imagine how much more efficient health insurance could be if everyone was monitored in this way. You could easily see who has healthy habits and who doesn't and then charge those who don't' higher premiums. A large part of the healthcare issue is due to the fact that the system doesn't reward (or punish) people based on diet and exercise habits.
- Mike Bracco
Just saw this post. Robert ( or anyone who just got one) did you just get it? I ordered 2 last winter and was wondering. Thanks
- Tracy Benham
Mike, you should check out an article that Techcrunch wrote on a new company (not launched yet) called HealthyWage http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Sarah Doody
I want one as well, but there are not available in Canada... I hope it will help you get in shape, every little motivation helps!
- Tyson Williams
I'm still waiting for mine to show up in the mail. I'll be happier if I can better track sleep and the other things which it instruments.
- rob friedman
My fitbit showed up in the mail on Sat. -- I placed my order on 9/12/2008.
- Rick Chlopan
Joanna Geary (timesjoanna) - Times of London on Twitter - Journalists on Muck Rack - http://muckrack.com/timesjo...
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Nice. I'm home this afternoon and get to see it live for the first time.
- Amyloo
ditto. no sound either.
- Christopher Harris
We're getting there
- Brett Slatkin
The test pattern looks good so far.
- Matt Mastracci
We are starting shortly.
- Robert Scoble
whoooo! shortly!
- Christopher Harris
Please stand by...
- Robert Scoble
It's on
- Matt Mastracci
Cool
- Ken Sheppardson
Rackspace is wasting their money, they could reach 175000 geeks by advertising on TWiT
- Mark
first time i'm seeing the new video :)
- Christopher Harris
Mark: who said we won't do that too?
- Robert Scoble
Alright... need to pull up Dave's Twitter stream in another window...
- Ken Sheppardson
look at that chizzled jaw, lucky guy
- Mark
dave winer?
- Christopher Harris
Considering we're watching video sucked over Skype and rebroadcast over ustream, the quality is pretty good.
- Matt Mastracci
"Fast RSS." I liek that generic term. Harkens to fast zombies.
- Amyloo
Fast feeds - like fast food? Will there be a Slow Feeds movement?
- Kevin Marks
Polling sucks.
- Bob Wyman
Bob: can you explain why you think that?
- Robert Scoble
And how that fits into this conversation?
- Robert Scoble
Knowing "what's new" is pretty important - as important as "something is new".
- Matt Mastracci
Scoble: It's inefficient.
- Eric Florenzano
Aha I'm awake in time for the gillmor gang.
- Hilary Talbot
polling wastes resources on both sides of the connection for the majority of the time when there are no new items
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Hey Hil.
- Amyloo
hey Amy :)
- Hilary Talbot
Scoble: Think of the browser. V1 of friendfeed was polling. You had to ask (by refreshing) whether there was new content. This version of friendfeed is push, where FriendFeed tells you when there's new stuff.
- Eric Florenzano
bear: right, so is Pubsubhubbub doing it right or wrong? And, is there a better way?
- Robert Scoble
the key part is that it's sending the content along with the item - this dramatically reduces client complexity
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
By "server", he means "hub", re: doing more work. The blogs do as much work as they do today (ie: ping the hub).
- Matt Mastracci
Hubbub is doing it right IMO
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Scoble: Just remember everything I said to you 5 or 6 years ago when explaining why PubSub was useful and why "one-day" people would realize that real-time would be good. Nothing has changed.
- Bob Wyman
Bob: yup, I'm slow. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: You need to get more "real-time"!
- Bob Wyman
Right - this is the HTTP/HTML version of what PubSub has been doing for XMPP
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Absolutely. No question. Yes.
- Bob Wyman
Yeah. It could do twitter.
- Matt Mastracci
correction - I'm not the CTO - I don't think Johann would like me taking his job :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Is it possible Bill Gates had it right, Business at the speed of Thought? We want content and information as we think it.
- Owen Greaves
Oh, sorry.
- Robert Scoble
I get confused. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Someone ask Recordon if they've figured out how all this can relate to activitystrea.ms, the streams protocol Facebook, MySpace, and others support
- Jesse Stay
no worries :) I like the promotion
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
which is Atom based
- Jesse Stay
You'd have a hard time doing twitter over rssCloud - you'd have to be pulling the last 30 twitter messages after each tweet. That's 30x the traffic.
- Matt Mastracci
If you were designing this sort of system from scratch today, I can't imagine that you'd take a polling approach. It's legacy left over from page-based web browsing.
- Ken Sheppardson
This is a great fit for activitystrea.ms
- Kevin Marks
Kevin, that's what I was thinking - both being Atom, they ought to fit together well. I'd love to see a use-case in action.
- Jesse Stay
Yeah, activitystrea.ms works easily with Atom which can then be made real time using PSHB.
- David Recordon
robert - easily - Seesmic ran in the cloud until we finally needed more memory for the Java side
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
polling is useful as a fallback and to pull history when subscribing for the first time.
- Kevin Marks
Can we all just agree on "Hubbub" vs "PuSH" or saying "pubsubhubbub" every time... once and for all? :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
I'd love to see Brett's opinion on why Twitter won't implement PSHB
- Jesse Stay
It requires a big player just to have the operations staff to maintain a high volume site
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Jesse: I was just about to ask that.
- Robert Scoble
Tornado uses epoll and it's been used by Twisted Python
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
but if it's distributed - it would scale out anyway
- Ankush Narula
Kqueue too :) (Well, Twisted does support that, Tornado doesn't yet)
- Eric Florenzano
Twitter won't implement it because they want to be the hub, and they want everybody to use their own, proprietary APIS
- Ken Sheppardson
Ankush - correct - until you get "scobled" (i.e. when you have one user with a huge number of followers)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Mike: and wait until you get onto Oprah! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Sounds like DNS
- Rob La Gesse
Ken, I understand the Hub part, but I can't help wonder if they just don't understand how it could help their API. They could use their own hub if they wanted.
- Jesse Stay
Are Hubbub and rssCloud the same thing? (...he asks, feigning innocence)
- Ken Sheppardson
The PSHB protocol is "simple" and fairly trivial implementations are possible. But, *any* single hub that monitors millions of feeds is going to need care and feeding. There will be *very large* hubs and their will be tiny hubs and they can all work together happily.
- Bob Wyman
I'd love to know if Brett or Brad have reached out to Twitter in any way
- Jesse Stay
Ken: no. Similar efforts but come from different histories. RSSCloud comes from Dave Winer's side of the house.
- Robert Scoble
robert - oh hell no - that's what Loic is good at
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
the distinction is that PubSubHubbub sends the fat pings with content in; rssCloud sends an update notification and still needs a poll
- Kevin Marks
Mike: actually Loic has someone speaking at LeWeb that has a bigger global brand than Oprah.
- Robert Scoble
robert - yea, I haven't found out who yet - i'm curioius about that
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
It's Dr. Laura isn't it Robert?
- Jesse Stay
what happens if a hub dies?
- Ankush Narula
Jesse: way bigger than that.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, Twitter wants other people to adopt their streaming API, if anything... they don't want to be yet another hub in some network
- Ken Sheppardson
rssCloud causes "thundering herd" problem on source blogs. The result can be a complete swamping of smaller publishers. This was the core "mistake" in rssCloud when it was first done 7 years ago and it remains the core error in that protocol.
- Bob Wyman
How about working with the OMB guys? Why PSHB vs. OMB protocol?
- Jesse Stay
yea, Twitter got burned with XMPP early in their engineering life so have a bad taste for it - they got burned not because of XMPP but because of other non-tech reasons
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Jesse - IMO OMB should allow for atom payloads - then it could become part of PSHB by default
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
OMB could generate activitystrea.ms + PSHB too
- Kevin Marks
Thundering herd would be a *huge* problem if Twitter were to get decentralized. Oprah has 1MM+ followers - that's 20 tweets * 1k * 1MM subscribers on each tweet.
- Matt Mastracci
Celine Dion probably has a bigger brand than Opera, and she speaks French (ADD kicking in here)
- Jesse Stay
Bear, interesting
- Jesse Stay
Bear: The issue wasn't XMPP the protocol, it was the software they used to implement it, the systems they built to feed it, the way they configured it, etc... XMPP isn't, a priori, any worse than the alternatives.
- Bob Wyman
OMB made a big mistake when they created their own protocol instead of just extending ATOM, IMO
- Eric Florenzano
Bob, yes - you said it much better than I did - I was trying to say just that
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
There was also the on again/off again relationship Twitter had with Gnip that confused the whole XMPP situation
- Ken Sheppardson
Yeah, I don't really see what OMB gets you these days given activitystrea.ms, Hubbub, etc. Seems redundant.
- Ken Sheppardson
We have an interesting interview with Gnip's founder on Building43 right now, by the way.
- Robert Scoble
@Matt: Right. with rssCloud, publishing becomes massively expensive if you get popular. rssCloud will, on the other hand, work well for people who aren't very popular and don't have many people interested in what they publish. For those folk, rssCloud is a potential solution... :-)
- Bob Wyman
Gnip link: http://www.building43.com/videos...
- Rob La Gesse
oh cool - Gnip has some very cool tech behind the scenes - i'll have to queue that video
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Ken - now that identi.ca/status.net has plugins - nothing prevents someone from wiring up a PHSB hook to the internal message queue for identi.ca/status.net
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
bear: You know if anybody's pushing activitystrea.ms out of a Laconica instance yet?
- Ken Sheppardson
I imagine that hooking up the twitter firehose to PSHB would be really easy and cheap, but it would likely violate the twitter firehose license.
- Matt Mastracci
kevin - yea, one of the most fun projects I did was to hook a sms/xmpp bot to a phone switch - it allowed you to control your vm/phone from xmpp and gave a lot of benefit
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
EVERYTHING cool violates the Twitter firehose rules :)
- Rob La Gesse
ken - there is some private branch work being done on that - but they are working on getting 0.9 out the door first
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@bear great - we should get you hooked up to the Ribbit APIs for telephony stuff and Seesmic
- Kevin Marks
Rob: FriendFeed figured out a way around the stupid Twitter rules.
- Robert Scoble
I think just knowing that Twitter offers a firehose violates it's terms of use.
- Ken Sheppardson
@kevin i would love to review them and make a pitch to the team about them
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert - FF didn't try to share the firehose.
- Rob La Gesse
$50M for FF engineering and architecture team?
- Ankush Narula
@bear great, email me kevinmarks@gmail.com
- Kevin Marks
..and FF was able to position themselves as a Twitter client, in a sense, by pushing traffic to Twitter. They weren't just extracting value from the system. Plus, they probably asked nicely and sent cupcakes.
- Ken Sheppardson
Rob: sure it did, but it only shares it for people who have logged into FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Rob: Twitter's rules are "don't create a shadow Twitter." As long as you don't try to do that they probably will let you play.
- Robert Scoble
Rob: of course every geek in the world wants to create a shadow Twitter. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Rob - once they produced the v2 api - then they started sharing the full stream. Until that point it was a partial stream
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert - my point is - at the same time Twitter couldn't support more use of the firehose, they demanded the firehose NOT be re-broadcast. They don;t allow one to become a "node" of the stream. Which seems silly.
- Rob La Gesse
That's not entirely correct, Robert. Their other rule is "don't try to monetize something firehose based that we may at some point in the indefinite future think about monetizing ourselves"
- Ken Sheppardson
On PubSubHubbub and rssCloud ... (http://brad.livejournal.com/2405147...)
- David Recordon
Ken: we're saying the same thing. :-)
- Robert Scoble
decentralization!!!
- Ankush Narula
Rob: FriendFeed rebroadcasts the Twitter firehose, but only for the people who have signed onto FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Ah... right... "shadow Twitter". Gotcha :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert/Ken - I can understand why Twitter doesn't want downstream nodes passing on the stream - they lose access control
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert - they are not. They are broadcasting back a VERY small portion of that stream, at best.
- Rob La Gesse
I think technically rebroadcasting is illegal according to the Twitter developer terms for the firehose
- Jesse Stay
Mike me too! Rob: it is a small portion because only a few hundred thousand people have signed onto FriendFeed, but if you could get everyone on Twitter to sign up here you'd see the entire firehose.
- Robert Scoble
In so far as fire-walled end-user applications can't receive pings, PSHB protocol mainly helps publishers and server-side aggregators like Google reader. Since this "last mile problem" is out-of-scope for PSHB, we can't yet expect any client explosion the likes that Twitter has seen. Any thoughts from the panel on the last mile problem? What would have to be done so that Tweetie, Seesmic, etc, might benefit from PSHB?
- Mason Lee
Robert - I disagree. I think if that happened the hose would be shut off.
- Rob La Gesse
The protocol comparison document is at: http://code.google.com/p...
- Bob Wyman
Well, I don't think it's just rebroadcasting... there's also an issue around derivative/aggregations based on the firehose, firehose-based analytics, etc
- Ken Sheppardson
Why isn't Twitter ever a part of these conversations? I'd love to hear their viewpoint. You should get Ryan Sarver on one of these episodes.
- Jesse Stay
I believe they have an open invite :)
- Rob La Gesse
real time chat across different media and internet access levels - you pick what size/speed your want your conversation to happen at
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
The last time I saw Twitter participate in this sort of conversation was at BearHugCamp last fall.... and I suspect that left a bad taste in their mouth :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm curious if anyone invited them
- Jesse Stay
But you can't do global Track across a federated system
- Ken Sheppardson
But Kevin, what about tracking the firehose?
- Cliff Gerrish
*somebody* needs to aggregate everything if you want to search across everything
- Ken Sheppardson
*drink* someone mentioned Track
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@Mason If PSHB handles the backbone problem of providing fan-in and then fan-out for millions of feeds, it makes it massively easier for people to focus on building innovative front ends. There isn't much opportunity for creativity in solving the backend problem -- that's why it is reasonable to build something like PSHB today. The really fun problems are the things that should be relying on PSHB as a source of feeds. Let PSHB do the boring backend problem -- you should focus on innovative clients.
- Bob Wyman
drink
- Rob La Gesse
or you need to delegate/distribute searches out to the hubs
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: that's a good point.
- Robert Scoble
I need a drink!
- Robert Scoble
Robert - grab some formula!
- Rob La Gesse
But, "follow" isn't enough. We also need TRACK!
- Bob Wyman
Or that other kind of milk.
- Amyloo
There are certainly benefits to distribution and redundancy, but there *are* benefits to centralization.
- Ken Sheppardson
Kevin has the key point, getting what you want... Discovery of what you want would be next... these hubs will be learning patterns of what is wanted.
- Ben Hedrington
Or will it be too decentralized?
- Ben Hedrington
Discovery on a federated/partitioned system is problematic.
- Ken Sheppardson
but PSHB isn't for track, as you have said eloquently on the mailing list, Bob
- Kevin Marks
live filtering?
- Ankush Narula
So discovery is the next frontier?
- Ben Hedrington
track remains a problem even with PSHB *but* using PSHB allows you to do a track across more than just one source
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert: chat room other than here?
- David Stratton
discovery happens the same way you discover new blogs IMO
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@Kevin: But, if I've got PSHB aggregating the feeds, it makes it really, really easy for me to build a server that *does* do track on the stuff that PSHB feeds to me.
- Bob Wyman
Discovery has always been the new frontier
- Francine Hardaway
David: this is the chat room.
- Robert Scoble
Hubbub allows some central search provider subscribe to everything, then people can subscribe to the search provider... but there just has to be some way to discover/broadcast which feeds are out there... this is an issue with SUP, btw... discovery. You have to know a feed's SUP ID first.
- Ken Sheppardson
okay, thought so
- David Stratton
I guess I wasn't being 2010 enough. This is the chat feed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
So you mean if you want to do research or market research you will pay
- Francine Hardaway
@bobwyman sure, but that isn't the usecase Robert says he wants; he needs a mass crawl for that
- Kevin Marks
Francine: and restaurants will pay $10 a month to have their own Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I remember the Microsoft guy at BearHugCamp last fall was wondering why anybody would ever want to build a Track system, rather than just leave it to Google...
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm a set of keywords, I'm looking for a set of keywords
- Arnie Klaus
Of course, Twitter will probably offer http://www.sushirestaurant.com/twitter at some point too.
- Robert Scoble
Live regexp for big pipes sounds like a $1Billion dollar business.
- Cliff Gerrish
we've been doing this stuff with MOM in financial market feeds - topic subscriptions, channels, etc.
- Ankush Narula
@kevin, I dont' see the distinction. I can do track based on all that flows through the PSHB hubs. That's semantically equivelant to doing a "mass crawl"
- Bob Wyman
And what will they really do with it? That they don't do now
- Francine Hardaway
You can have one aggregator that controls the entire feed, or you can set the feed loose and let several companies aggregate from those. Same data, no single point of control.
- Rob La Gesse
Francine: I can see a lot you would do if you had your own branded Twitter clone.
- Robert Scoble
Every Hubbub hub could/should provide a local firehose to anyone who wants it.
- Ken Sheppardson
distributed track is possible. Centralization only makes it easier.
- Bob Wyman
Complex events processing...
- Cliff Gerrish
@bobwyman only if all the hubs do collation for you, surely? Content-based filtering inot feeds on the hubs too
- Kevin Marks
Bob: and even centralization isn't THAT easy. Twitter only shows you the last few days on http://search.twitter.com
- Robert Scoble
How similar to JustSignal?
- Francine Hardaway
This is similar to tracking multiple market centers (pools of liquidity) to get the right trade.
- Cliff Gerrish
John Kalucki, a SQLstream co-founder, has been at Twitter for about 18 month now working on... wait for it... their firehose API.
- Ken Sheppardson
Cliff: Now I understand
- Francine Hardaway
the fun happens when PSHB allows for disparate streams to have firehoses - then all the search/filter geeks can do their thing
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@Scoble: "history" is irrelevant to any system doing a real-time track. All you care about is the future -- not the past. Past is for "retrospective search," "track" is about "prospective search".
- Bob Wyman
The future: filter, search, discover, curate
- Francine Hardaway
So Twitter is trying to become FriendFeed?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Sure we do. It's called TwitterSpy. Dustin Sallings built it two years ago
- Ken Sheppardson
others have built the same thing...
- Ken Sheppardson
Mike - so is Facebook :)
- Rob La Gesse
Bob: I want both.
- Robert Scoble
@bobwyman disagree - you need both flow and past; they complement one another
- Kevin Marks
bear: I think if you look at some of the newer Twitter web clients, they're basically a FriendFeed-like UI on top of the Twitter message bus.
- Ken Sheppardson
twitter retweet is going to make a lot of folks angry - not that I have any inside info or anything
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
bear: hah!
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble: Of course you want both. I would never question that. The two halves of search compliment each other. Only retrospective or only prospective is only half the solution. Most of the systems you've ever used have only solved half the problem .
- Bob Wyman
bear: Justine Bateman's already mad about it. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Bob: agreed. FriendFeed came close to solving both.
- Robert Scoble
London here :)
- Bastian
New York here...
- Bob Wyman
hawaii here
- Arnie Klaus
Texas
- Rob La Gesse
Philadelphia
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
NYC
- Ankush Narula
Just got a 503 on Twitter... we breaking it real time?
- Ben Hedrington
Washington State
- Steve Hammer
San Francisco (not Silcon Valley ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
canberra, Aust
- Hilary Talbot
Dana Point, CA here
- michael sean wright
nice thing we started here
- Bastian
Wow - what a nice distribution!
- Rob La Gesse
Ben - no - Twitter's auth API is having trouble right now - my monitoring alerts are going berserk about it
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Minneapolis, MN
- Ben Hedrington
RSS!!
- michael sean wright
Arizona
- Francine Hardaway
awww...RSS :-)
- Jodi Church
RSS, welcome to the world.
- Bob Wyman
RSS lives!
- Mason Lee
Don;t know how Scoble had a cute baby :) I mean, Maryam is cute, but Robert? Hee
- Rob La Gesse
LOL @RSS...
- Karoli
That gives new meaning to RSS stream.
- Steve Hammer
when he farts - do you call it an rssCloud? ;-)
- Ankush Narula
welcome to the intertubes RSS!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@ankush LOL!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Rocky looks so cute petting him
- Francine Hardaway
Ankush, FTW!
- Karoli
Careful - Rocky looks hungry!
- Rob La Gesse
loved the mp3 of the sounds of RSS greeting the world
- michael sean wright
Your saving it all for his great, great grandkids!
- Arnie Klaus
I need to run! :)
- David Recordon
Thanks man ttyl
- Brett Slatkin
lots of spamming yesterday
- Karoli
it was a classic phishing scam
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Good to hear about http://superfeedr.com!
- Julien
2 different things
- Karoli
If you were using SocialToo you wouldn't have gotten those messages :-)
- Jesse Stay
they're able to insert messages into your stream when you don't follow via the Twitter API
- Karoli
PSHB is not really decentralized from the client's perspective-- there will be one front end: google.
- Mason Lee
Diversity is important in *any* ecosystem...
- Bob Wyman
It's funny that I'm getting a fail whale on the Gillmor Gang.
- Robert Scoble
it's the same with your computer network - all the same server means you are pwned by a single attack
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Steve Gillmor needs his Twitter anti-virus (SocialToo) :-)
- Jesse Stay
DNS
- Eric Florenzano
Gmail
- Ken Sheppardson
Commonality in protocols -- diversity in servers.
- Bob Wyman
oh, wait...
- Ken Sheppardson
Twitter is down hard now.
- Robert Scoble
Ok, really need to go now! Thanks and talk to everyone later.
- David Recordon
I'm gettting 503 server error.
- Robert Scoble
everyone gets nervous when we add a layer on top of the web stack...
- Ankush Narula
yea, i'm getting hard errors from Twitter in my server alerts
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Ahh, it's back.
- Robert Scoble
One day Twitter just won't come back.
- Ken Sheppardson
i was, but it's working again for me
- Jodi Church
Yeah - API's having issues too
- Jesse Stay
Still 503 here
- Ken Sheppardson
@ken - then, we will all sleep.
- Rob La Gesse
Ken: Not after it has raise $100m
- Francine Hardaway
Its google wave getting ready to go live.
- Arnie Klaus
it's both
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Annie: Hah!
- Ben Hedrington
The problem comes in ownership of the resource. In the decentralized web, we share the pipes in neutral fashion. But, "commercial" people tend to violate net neutrality rules. Like Twitter deciding who can and cannot read their data. That is a net neutrality failure...
- Bob Wyman
Only portrayed that way by the FSF/GPL extremists
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Love the sound of Skype in the morning
- Bastian
@bear: We should profit by competing on the service we provide users -- not on how much of user's data we have captured.
- Bob Wyman
Bob: and what about Facebook's front door being completely locked?
- Ankush Narula
@bob agree 100%
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Is he saying Dave Winer's naive? :-)
- Jesse Stay
Bob: agree. Jesse: I think so.
- Robert Scoble
He's saying light pinging won't work.
- Cliff Gerrish
*smack*
- Rob La Gesse
@Ankush I'm seriously hoping that the new hires at Facebook help steer them away from the dark side :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
So to argue in Twitter and Facebook's defense, they're not just a neutral pass through. They're adding value to the system, and they'd argue that they shouldn't be "forced" to just let that walk out the back door.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'd like to see Dave Winer's response to that
- Jesse Stay
@ankush , Folk don't always agree with me. But, I believe that users should control access to their data and they should make decisions based on what is in their interest -- the people who run the services that people use should *not* be the ones deciding what access controls will be enforced.
- Bob Wyman
so do you see there being an APi to Google's crawl for use in this, Bob?
- Kevin Marks
Because of stampeding herds?
- Mason Lee
I'm a big +1 on the fat ping
- Eric Florenzano
Jesse: I'm sure you will (see the response)
- Ken Sheppardson
Mike: if Facebook doesn't get its public service act together they will see themselves becoming the next MySpace. In the early adopter audience it already is.
- Robert Scoble
Bob/Mike - i'm in full agreement - but when you're building a service that has zero monetization (twitter) - what else can your valuation be based on other than your core data assets?
- Ankush Narula
I think Facebook is getting it together. Connect is their answer, but they're also slowly opening up search as well.
- Jesse Stay
Of course they have FriendFeed now to keep the early adopters inside the Facebook tent, but there's a lot more early adopters on Twitter than here.
- Robert Scoble
@robert agree completely - I had already zero'd out my profile and moved to FF - but the FF folks moving to FB made me give them more time
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Bob/Mike - as for FB - I hope so too
- Ankush Narula
Of course, you are better off doing it on Rackspace :)
- Rob La Gesse
Jesse: I agree with you.
- Robert Scoble
Don't build services that have no legitimate path to profit. In that case, you should be building protocols whose costs can be shared by the community and then build your business by creating the best tools for using the protocol.
- Bob Wyman
popping in to listen to RL Gilmor Gang stream #gillmorgang
- Del_
Bob - Sounds ideal - but knowing the history of Twitter - I suspect they were much more concerned about uptime rather than the public good
- Ankush Narula
robert and rob: speaking of using Rackspace, Cartus put my contract on hold while they figure out their needs
- David Stratton
"Has *2* Bs"?? Doesn't it have, like 12?
- Ken Sheppardson
pub sub hub bub (five bs)
- Robert Scoble
activitystrea.ms is yet another endpoint that can be connected to PSHB
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@Ankush I don't know who was thinking what. But, I do know that those who focus on "public good" typically write protocols, not walled garden closed sites.
- Bob Wyman
Sidewiki is so not a wiki
- Ken Sheppardson
I think it's actually "pub/sub hubbub" - I'm usually wrong though
- Jesse Stay
I want Sidewiki to have Wave support
- Jesse Stay
Bob - fair enough :-)
- Ankush Narula
Locking a new "feature" into relying on me installing a toolbar is a GREAT way to make sure I don;t play with it.
- Rob La Gesse
ooh - I hear tension in the realms of Google :-)
- Jesse Stay
you would have to gather a set of wave changesets and then push that out via PSHB
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Rob: I'm sure they'll support it in Chrome too, eventually
- Ken Sheppardson
It's PSHB vs. Wave - who will win? :-)
- Jesse Stay
you guys are nuts :-)
- Loic Le Meur
Wave *IS* XMPP
- Ken Sheppardson
Loic is in the building :)
- Rob La Gesse
Loic it's Celine Dion isn't it? :-) (how's it going?)
- Jesse Stay
nope
- Loic Le Meur
Where's my Wave invitation?
- Francine Hardaway
The Wave protocol is just an extension of XMPP
- Ken Sheppardson
good try though
- Loic Le Meur
PSHB and Wave don't compete. They do different things. Othogonal. PSHB does *nothing* in the last-mile user interface space.
- Bob Wyman
Loic: thanks for filling infor me.
- Robert Scoble
dang - I'm going to figure it out one of these days
- Jesse Stay
Francine: don't worry, I don't have one either.
- Robert Scoble
oh robert, no thank YOU
- Loic Le Meur
XMPP is also nice in that completes the last mile.
- Mason Lee
I had a blast being you for 24 hours
- Loic Le Meur
Seemed like a good conference watching it on my iPhone.
- Robert Scoble
XMPP is great for "last mile" as well as for reasonable number of persistent connections on teh backend.
- Bob Wyman
Great conversation guys!
- Ben Hedrington
I LOVED Tony Robbins, I was expecting to hate him so that was a pleasant surprise, best speaker I have ever seen. Such a stage presence. amazing/
- Loic Le Meur
Great show, everyone
- Rob La Gesse
great show!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Enjoyed listening/watching
- Ankush Narula
Great discussion here. Thanks Brett, et al.
- Mason Lee
That was very good - thanks Steve
- Jesse Stay
thank you
- Hilary Talbot
/me is wondering why everyone thanks everyone
- Loic Le Meur
@Loic It's because we americans are so polite!
- Bob Wyman
Thanks, Loic, I was wondering that myself.
- Mason Lee
Errr... That was a joke.
- Bob Wyman
LOL
- Loic Le Meur
social networking
- Arnie Klaus
don't get me started
- Loic Le Meur
Good show Steve, thank you all for making the time.
- David Stratton
You rang?
- John Kalucki
Hey John! When are you going to be on the Gillmor Gang?
- Jesse Stay
quick - get Steve back on video - Twitter is here!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
John is in charge of Twitter's Streaming API, FYI
- Jesse Stay
I totally didn't realize John had a FriendFeed account - awesome
- Jesse Stay
I skimmed most of the conversation. I didn't see any explicit questions to respond to, or that haven't been addressed on the twitter-dev list about pubhub...
- John Kalucki
have you looked at PubSubHubbub John?
- Kevin Marks
As far as the Streaming API rules, we'll work on them. The user TOS and API rules just went out last week.
- John Kalucki
John - except that a lot of the folks who were asking don't regularly read the twitter dev list :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Let me find the link...
- John Kalucki
Heh :-)
- Jesse Stay
I'd just like to be able to standardize my code and not have to re-write for every new social network out there.
- Jesse Stay
But we've had this conversation. :-)
- Jesse Stay
how about activitystrea.ms support, John? You going to write the shim or do we have to?
- Kevin Marks
Activitystrea.ms support seems unlikely. A shim would probably be seen as syndication.
- John Kalucki
Overall, the direction is towards exposing more data types, more predicate types, and supporting more use cases. Format and protocol support, while making developer's lives easier, isn't as high priority as some of the proposed features we're considering.
- John Kalucki
That's too bad John - hard to be the "pulse of the internet" if you're not supporting open standards
- Jesse Stay
Hey JK! Welcome! How goes?
- Ken Sheppardson
Hey Ken. It goes. It goes.
- John Kalucki
Looks like we still have 27 viewers for a test pattern...
- Cliff Gerrish
I missed this shooooooot! need regular calendared events so i can add you guys to my schedule! :)
- Susan Beebe
@hadaly still dont know where I stand with regard to FB acquires FF; a) #Posterous (http://blog.posterous.com/send-to...) b) 250 million users cant be wrong?
250 million users probably can be wrong. I was simply commenting on your facebook absence.
- Clare
I feel that joining Facebook is probably inevitable. I don't know many people who aren't on fb at this point. Not much benefit in being a social network recluse, however fb looks like a very cluttered product . I think Posterous is the way forward, had great fun with that service recently.
- Matyjas
from Android
Facebook is cluttered, i do however think that there is great value in it. I have lot's a good conversations there recently and more and more people move over. I would also say that using Posterous is great and the way to go.
- Bastian
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shuffles quietly at the back
- Ivor Whitten
tap tap
- Sarah is Novembery
Present...
- George Hall (Australia)
here
- Kimberle Kelly
I'm not an addict. I can quit any time I want.
- Ha3rvey (not Akiva)
jawohl.
- Spidra Webster
I am here. How about you?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
HOORAH
- Glen Campbell, B.A.
Check Check
- Robert Burgin
here
- Ray H
sleepless in Kavala
- Apostolos Tsompanopoulos
check
- Amani
yo
- Bill McFarland
I'm here!
- Bonnie Foster
HeRe!
- Bruno Mertins
Whatup!
- jamar78
Hooah!
- Kevin Fox
Till they kick me out.
- Tony, Paradox of FF
here but i can stop anytime
- phil baumann
In!
- Pon
Here!
- Oracio
here
- tevfik bülent öngün
I'm not, uh, like an addict, or anything. I can quit anytime. yeah
- jeff hammond
w00t!
- Shane
hi:P
- K.D.
here
- Panayotis Vryonis
I don't have time for this...I'm too busy liking stuff
- Alex Scoble
Yo
- Bret Taylor
Yep count me in!!
- Guillaume Foutry
Present and accounted for.
- Colette
Here
- TonyatMATC
Present
- Mike Doeff
It is amazing to see how fast these discussions fill up.
- Damond Nollan
Present
- Olympia Scott
yep!
- Sets Turan
Howdy.
- Daniel Morgan
Present.
- Alonis
Sir Yes SIr!
- Robert Kenney
Word
- Matthew Horton
not an addict, but check in often
- Göze Sencer
I'm only addicted to the email service
- joebrooks
As always :)
- Paul Buchheit
wassup
- Alejandro
here
- Ken Kennedy
Yup, that would be me =)
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
here
- Matt Ruiz
Here Here!
- Benjamin Golub
was going to be, but not anymore
- Friday Lo is Friday!
here
- ebru
here
- Eric Logan
Here!!! :P
- Chris Zlatis
Snorting a line of FF as I type this.
- PENGUIN: MAJOR CAPS LOCK
from fftogo
++
- jacek
Phew, still here ...
- Tom Horn
I'm not here LOL
- Robert Szabo
Here I be -/
- Chris Loft
I'm Free
- kenneth glenn
Damn: a lot of addicts here still!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Well, I *was* an addict until yesterday.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
alive and well.
- Tyler Molamphy
present
- Jeff Weber
yes we R
- Johni Fisher
Hey, I can stop whenever I want. No, really.
- Tom Landini
I'll leave kicking and screaming.
- Andrew Smith
It's a trap!!
- Micah Wittman
from iPhone
---...---
- constantinos alexacos
Where else are we going to go?
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Yep, here
- LANjackal
Check
- Jesper Lind
So addicted I said I was addicted twice. < g >
- Rob Schieber
Hello everyone.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
Here.
- teh Dork Knight
always here!
- Marco Ramirez
Hip hip...
- Gary Gannon
Still here!
- Lee Watters
Still around :)
- Sean Powell
Always here!
- Louis Gray
staying put until they kick us out.
- michael sean wright
still not here :D
- Robert Szabo
Yo!
- Michael Porter
*cough cough*
- John Ladd
Here.
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
from Android
I am here. Isn't it now FACEFEED?
- Francine Hardaway
Here!
- OnuRC
I love that Bret, Paul, and Kevin checked in. They probably are looking at their screens and asking "what do we do now?" how about ship some new features before Facebook overlords take you off to do bigger things?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I feel sorry for all you addicts. My use of it is purely social.
- Bruce Lewis
Not an addict but I like it.
- Joao Alves
I got the papers in my glove box....you ready to make a beer run?
- Morgan Haley
Is Friendfeed a safe place to bring new friends?
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
I'm here - and staying here until Paul and Bret kick me out the </door>
- AJ Kohn
yup. Guess I am.
- Mark Interrante
+1 happy user... till now
- giuseppe c. | markgreene
What am I doing? I don't even know.
- Suzanne
Here!!!
- Felipe Aneudi Campana
from iPhone
Here for now...
- Travis Tasset
from iPhone
That hitler thing was amazing. That is all.
- James Watters
present.
- Trish Haley
Yo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Stephen Pickering
What of it.
- Rochelle
"So, Who are you?" "very cool, very cool"
- Stephen Pickering
what?
- Nine
Just my luck. I got to this party about a month ago and NOW they decide to sell.
- Ian Paul
FF4EVR. :D
- David Vasileff
02:10 am and still here :-)
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Yo ¡Aquí!
- David Austria
present
- Albert Maruggi
Yo!
- Mathew Barnes
presente
- Eric Gagne
Not sure I'm an addict yet but I'm here and working on it.
- Paul Goldsmith
I'm checking out not in. Friendfeed is on its way out kind ladies and gentlemen
- Mark Essel
Checking in!
- Marci Golub
Checking in
- Richard Gallo
Here
- Darrell Madore
Present!
- MsJosay
Here and ready for duty sir!
- David Damore
I survived the night.
- Frankie Warren
yes
- Matthew Schrock
Hello
- Sue
Present
- Joshua Kahn
I do like FF and use it almost every day. Wouldn't it be great if FB either left it alone so we can continue to use it as "professionals," or somehow incorporate it into a more "mature" version of FB that didn't have all the annoying, time-wasting apps, games, etc. I'd much prefer a totally customizable FF "wall."
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I think FFundercats HO!!!!! would have worked but I'm here anyways.
- Jimminy
yo
- Rahul Krishnakumar
here!
- Greg Louderman
are there fake friendfeed addicts?
- acedanger
Oh I'm still here :)
- Owen Greaves
here
- John Kitchen
:)
- Lindsay Davies
Hello?
- Vaughn
you betcha
- Rick Bucich
holy crap, looks like master and commander ;-)
- Aad 't Hart
Not an addict but still here.
- Brandon
hello from a german FRIENDFEED addicted :-)
- Simon Zeimke
On in real time
- Mike Lizun
Money rules! Money rules! Money rules! The world doesn't change!
- ¡amFrancesco!
O HAI
- Ambar Pansari
from iPhone
Not an addict, but defiantly a user. Wish there was a desktop client though. Or TweetDeck integrated it.
- Michael
:)
- Joe
Present!
- Denverken
Aye, Mon.
- Gordon Swaby
PRESENT
- Kamilah Gill
Check
- Jason Heppler
It's nice seeing new comments drop down, sexy as fuck, bye friendfeed *snifs*
- Gordon Swaby
president
- Dennis O'Neil
Aloha
- Nathan
Where else would I be? Facebook? Pfft ...
- Kevin Mohr
Bueller, Bueller, ........ Bueller
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Yeah, I'm here
- outofmyarse
Sorry I was late.. I have a note from my parole officer.
- Mike Shulman
Sir, YES, Sir!
- Mycaptain
I CAN QUIT ANYTIME!!!
- Jim Hearts FF
here
- Rahul Gupta
just getting started
- Patrice Vizzone
Aye!
- Joshua
hello there
- Murilo Terrabuio
Here, I am
- Luca Ciccarelli
Sorry I'm late. I was on Facebook. It works on a cellphone.
- Paul Puri
here
- Gary Prechtel
Present!
- Diego Barros
I'm not here often, but when I am... it's a happy place indeed... I hope they don't take away my fix!
- Robyn Miller
Hey Robert - got a separate thread for people who have a healthy, positive relationship with FriendFeed?
- Edward Coffey
Check
- tristan
Marco!
- Tomy Thomson
it's gonna take 11 years for FaceBook to catch up to where FF is now....isn't that how tech "progress" works?
- Marg Uerite
Ahoy
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
aye
- chaz2b
Polo!
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Ere I am in Aust standing up with my right hand raised yelling out HERE!
- Bob Heath
Count me in.
- Sebastian
Present
- Charlie Anzman
Knock on wood!
- Giorgio Zarrelli
O Hai!
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Check
- Erik Boles
from iPhone
What's the qualifier for addict? If you believe the MacLean researcher, addiction is a choice!
- Sally Robinson
I MEAN IT!!! ANYTIME!!!
- Jim Hearts FF
O Captain, My Captain ;)
- Stuart Miniman
hey!
- Imran Jafri
yes
- Steve Mott
I'm here. Now what?
- Christian Collins
Actively fighting addiction to anything on a daily basis, but I'm still a FriendFeed fan! (I'd have been here sooner but I've been staring at Phoebe Cates pics for longer than I realized.)
- Mark Jepsen
Thank you Robert Scoble to be here. :) BTW is this looks interesting for FF replacement? : http://streamy.com/ ? May be... I'll try it to see. :)
- Claude LaFrenière
Checking in!
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
from fftogo
Count me in too please!
- RobinDotNet
from iPhone
raises hand!
- Bhowmik Shah
not addicted but perhaps in a state of advanced 'like'
- Threepwood
Yep Yep
- Rahsheen ™, Coach of FF
Yeah. Going to miss this if it morphs into something else for real.
- Robert Anderson
I need my FriendFeed!
- Brandon Titus
I really Need Friendfeed!
- TheHenry
Ya, that's me.
- Sweyn Venderbush
Yo.
- James (!?)
HOOAH. or something
- mjc
Here. At the Rack proctoring an exam.
- Stuart Rath
here
- Bluesun 2600
Everybody sing: "They tried to make me go to rehab I said no, no, no "
- Laurent
•_•*b
- videopixil
from Nambu
YEP!
- Helen Sventitsky
check
- Jaica Kinsman
from iPhone
Here!
- Michael Hocter
Aye!
- The Archangel ωαřмaiden
yo!
- tomit
Why should I? Whats in it for me? You doing some sort of survey of people to send out the police to do a "Safety Check" on when the site is shutdown?
- CW™
hola!
- Oğuz Serdar
Aren't we all here? I guess that's the point why we adopted Friendfeed, while others just "heard about it", isn't it?
- Wolfgang G. Wettach
What is the differential diagnosis for this condition?
- Matthew DeVries
and many of us in Europe are sleeping.
- Luca Sofri
better late than never.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Some of us in the USA are just busy, too.
- Duncan Blake
Man, this check-in line is pretty darn long... must be Southwest. heh
- Daynah
<raises hand>
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
please excuse me while I pretend to be one of your guys
- Kirk
i am
- Brian Hendrickson
I'm not addicted, I'm just a social FriendFeeder.
- Joe Pierce
here i am
- v per vitzbank
check 1,2
- Wayne Sutton
Here.
- Bill Scherer
Here
- Bora Zivkovic
.-.. --- --. --- ..- -
- constantinos alexacos
hello
- echostreamer
YOYOYO!
- Mathew™ one of a kind
Eccomi, presente!
- Alessandro
checking in from Tejas
- George Dearing
from BuddyFeed
Finally turned the corner.
- Liza
trying to figure out how to use it...
- Ted Kinzer
There sure are a lot of people in here. It's a good thing Robert got the big room with extra chairs.
- RobinDotNet
from iPhone
Here!
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
from BuddyFeed
Reporting! (My next blog entry will be called "Social Media Is My Crack".)
- Dennis Jernberg
present.
- Jim Halligan @jim
:(
- Angus Burton
Roger, Roger!
- Jim Bergman
late but here
- Heather Solos
Yo.
- Steve Lowe
all present and accounted for sir !
- John Wallace
from BuddyFeed
Nah, I'm too busy posting #badjokememe stuff.
- Ladybug Heather
I am in.
- Gabe Taviano
from iPhone
Present.
- Christopher A Carr
Depends.
- Nick Humphries
Not an addict yet, but I'm starting to work on it.
- Alex Hellstrom
I'm working hard to get an addiction.
- Minu Nianda
never left
- Josh Haley
Robert, Now that you have us all here (or some of us), what are you going to do with us?
- RobinDotNet
Here I am... sad but I am!
- ¡amFrancesco!
Hiya. Still here. Don't plan on leaving for the foreseeable future.
- Jason Huebel
from iPhone
still here
- echostreamer
Yes?
- Fajar Nurdiansyah
here
- Holly is Happy
from iPod
I'm here, but is this FF or FB?
- Dana Fosburgh
Guilty as charged. Use FF more than any other social network, including Twitter.
- Larry Hawes
I can stop anytime I want...
- mikepk
I can stop mikepk anytime I want...
- Akiva Moskovitz
here
- mike "glemak" dunn
holy cow that is a serious list...oh yeah here and dear!!!
- Braden Douglass
the real time chat feed is simply amazing and what makes FF phenomenal!
- Travis Tasset
I tried to get addicted but none of my friends could afford it. Now I just have bad dreams about Scoble.
- Mr Saturday Morning NFG
Merhaba!
- Barış (beyn.org)
Yep.
- joey
Here...and cloaked with sadness...
- Anthony K. Valley ©
True. What will happen to FF now?
- Barış (beyn.org)
Alright
- Rodfather
:P
- Phillip Stewart
Roger that
- Rob Fahrni
(from Streamy)
- Marcos
yo
- Gus
cello!
- Joe Silence is not dead
You called?
- Jeunelle Foster
you called?
- pea ♥ fierce as a woozle
reporting in.
- Randy Shapiro
ola.
- anna sauce
hello my name is Kim and I'm a Friendfeedaholic
- Kim Landwehr
from BuddyFeed
1st Step
- Thomas Page
True FriendFeed addicts don't need to report in. :P
- Internet's Tad
yep
- The Letter M
true friendfeed addicts are there.. always ;)
- alphaxion
Tad: and yet you did!
- Joe Silence is not dead
Chiggity-Check!
- Richard Merritt
Still following Robert the Wise.
- Phil Boiarski
that's a *boolean true*
- Peter Renshaw
check
- Tim Ake
I'm here. FriendFeed will have to leave me, before I leave it.
- Tyson Key
ayo...
- Lipanantsi
Fashionably late ...BOOYA!
- Rich_Weaver
Chris Martin checking in
- Chris Martin
Present
- Craig Eddy
present but in 12 step for addiction
- Criz
'Ere
- Darren Heydon
yo ho ho!
- Ferdinand Perez
I'm an addicted lurker. Does that count?
- ax0n
Solid Copy
- Drew Lucas
from iPhone
Checking in by phone while on vacation. :)
- CAJ, somewhere else
from iPhone
here. anecdote: a friend of mine just signed up for FF this evening. apparently the FriendFeed hype of the last 24 hours pushed him over the top. leaves me wondering whether FF has actually gained users today?it would be a crafty way of marketing the service. I'll wake up tomorrow to discover that there was a problem with the paperwork and the FriendFeed team have had a change of heart.
- David Hall
from BuddyFeed
late, but present
- George Deane
Present and accounted for
- John Pfaff
hello hello
- shaun mclane
yo yo yo. ladi-dadi.
- berchman
"raises hand"
- Brian Appleby
i have been locked out of twitter since first attack on friday so just got into friendfeed and loooove it!
- Alannah Ryane
We are truly the coolest bunch on the internet.
- Vezquex: God of FF
·[▪_▪]·
- Desirade
Whats up?
- AJ Batac
Present and accounted for! :-D
- Amy Flynn
Hello, my name is Pete, and I am a FriendFeed addict. Will there be cookies and coffee at this 12-step meeting?
- Pete Delucchi
Here stopped over on my way to Brightkite.
- John C Ferron
I'm a Facebook junkie
- Mol, Time Warping
Yo.
- Neal Jansons
Hi.
- Trent Olson
is this a load test/friendly dos attack? :p
- ௸ (k2g)
I'm not as active on FF as I used to be but I'm back.
- Bob Gannon
from iPhone
more than 2 days ago
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Little late but yes, I am still here. So to speak.
- Martha
yo..
- Ricardo J. Valle
I'm new but i like it...
- Jose Antonio Trujillo
Count me in even though I was just starting to get hooked. I guess it's time to find a rehab and get all sobered up until the next relapse with some other new addiction. Isn't life grand?
- Usman Bashir
addict..
- Peter
Define addict.
- Carl Black
Here too, lol
- Ange Recchia/angesbiz
ANYTIME!!!!
- Jim Hearts FF
addict: currently 02:53 and I've failed to even start this weeks script because I've been messing about on friendfeed ;)
- alphaxion
03:01 in the morning in the UK and I am here!
- Travis Koger
Since we are logging time its 5:05 AM in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia and I am here too. :)
- Usman Bashir
Travis get some sleep!
- Arleen Anderson
Aloha!
- Peter Liu
guten tag!
- imabonehead
hmmm.
- Carlos Ayala
hello hello
- Tate DA FF MVP
from BuddyFeed
define addict :-)
- Duane-PreppyDude
Gonna miss you honey. This is Facebook for adults
- Alan Morris
Is it just me or is the FF interface just plain usable? Clean! Uncluttered! Simple!.
- Alan Morris
Yo
- Ahsan Ali aka. Slick
Check is in the mail.
- Louis Trapani
from iPhone
Wow Peter, Are we all that crazy for friend feed and twitter?
- Marilyn Jansen Lopes
Aloha! Mahalo Robert... now WHAT IS the plan???
- Arleen Anderson
Hello there. this is today's last....go to bed now.
- Carloe Stamp
present
- Alex Scrivener
Allo
- Jan Ole Peek
selamat pagi,, bon dia ,, good morning=))
- zʍıɔ
^_^
- HealingBrush
I could be an addict if there was an app for my phone like one for the winmo!
- Andy Ghozali
Presente
- patrick
Checking In....
- Chris Jackson
Not quite addicted yet here.
- Mike Pennell
Where's Holden? Maybe celebrating his birthday early.
- Myrna
Yes SIR!!
- Mark Guadalupe
Present!
- Adam Turetzky
Reporting for duty SIR!
- Jack Humphrey
Yes
- Christopher Galtenberg
from iPhone
Checking in.
- John (a.k.a. dendroica)
¡Presente!
- Luis D. Santos
On it constantly!
- Tobin Truog
West Coast evening shift reporting for duty.
- Kryptic
Connected across all social media.Who needs open social?
- Lori Laurent Smith
Here!
- David Cook
addicted for sure
- Gersham Meharg
hola.
- Sean Oliver
talk about a name and shame list...
- Nathan Vingoe
Yo!
- Walt Ruppar
Count me as an addict.
- Joey Gibson
Till the servers shut down and they boot us off forever.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
check
- Kate
Always here!
- Michael Cuff
need more, need more friendfeed than any one has needed before
- Robert Higgins
Present.
- Lucas
I am present and accounted for...well present anyway
- Keith Murray
Here!
- Barry Owens
You rang?
- JA Castillo
I'm not sure is "being addicted to lurking on FF" counts, but I'm chiming in.
- Christian (Simply X)
I JUST joined and am trying to figure it out.
- Janine Nickel
Oui
- J.D. Deutschendorf
I quit everytime I go to bed
- Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF)
from iPhone
check. It rocks
- Richard J Placide
I'm checking in from 37k feet on a Delta flight with GoGo Internet. If that's not addict I don't know what is. :D
- Jay Cuthrell
Jay, you win ;)
- Jesper Lind
oh hey, look, the added an "add comment" link to the end of the comment list. Huzzah!
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
++Jay. I was going to do the same thing yesterday but I didn't want to pay the money.
- David Cook
David -- this was a $9.95 session but you can get them for $7.95 and there are also 25% off coupons if you do online check-in prior to your Delta flight. That's an incentive for folks to use that service and offload kiosk use at the terminals. Very savvy marketing by the folks at GoGo and Delta combined.
- Jay Cuthrell
Present and accounted for
- johnpiercy
Yo Scobey! I like Dave Winer's thoughts on user owned tech companies ... been thinking similar things.
- Jason Cronkhite
Scobey Scobey Doooooooooooooo!
- Jason Huebel
check.
- Justin Korn
here
- Steve C
Ozgur reporting
- Özgür D. Cyric
from iPhone
in
- sirishkumar
Present
- Herb Hernandez
Yo!
- Aaron Draczynski
Me too
- Peter Hollard
Junkie
- Genaro Bardy
from iPhone
Seems like there's not much point being a FF addict, now. Bummer.
- Kathy Fitch
Hola!
- George The Writer
Checking in!
- Glenn Slaven
whatup! :)
- simran
Still here :)
- 1x29
Here as always.
- Jeff Smith
Here.
- Parth Awasthi
Do you even have to ask?
- Johnny Worthington
Aquí!
- Miguel
moi.
- amygeek
nano nano
- Eran Even-Kesef
ok, I'll play
- chrisofspades
yes master
- Weird Shanghai
I suppose I can take some time from my Friendfeed scrolling to comment on this post....
- d.l.martin
:)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
I like this list of people, good crowd
- Jack DeWitt Smith
Yo. (And what is the point of this thread and why are we all saying Yo?)
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
Howdy!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
aye
- WorldofHiglet
And if you're a *real* FF addict, comment twice.
- Dennis Jernberg
Robert. What's up? :D
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
Arrrr!!
- Adrian
Here!
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
from fftogo
Here at 06:55 A.M. from iPhone.
- Pasquale Grimaldi
from iPhone
late, but check and still here.
- Rocky
No matter how many times "ff!" is met with "??" I still preach.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Another one for the books
- Greg Birch
YO!
- Eric @ CS Techcast
Here
- Véronique Rabuteau
Sup dawg I be in your feed, checkin in
- Geoff Schultz
Hey.
- Kevin Pedraja
I'm late, sorry. :)
- jcunwired
so...
- MegvMeg
well, it's 12:12 a.m. and I'm perusing FF from my iPhone via BuddyFeed before turning in. so yeah, I guess I count. "Here!" (raises hand)
- Don Faulkner
from BuddyFeed
Here
- Paola Bonomo
Here..from Shanghai
- Marc Dong
My name is John, and I am a FFolic.. :-)
- John Serra
Here from Hong Kong!
- Dan Van Hoy
Here
- Musa Yılmaz
Good morning from Finland. I'm here again.
- Tapio Kulmala
Can't stay away.
- Tanath
Checked in ...How can I check out
- Sriks7
Sorry I am late
- Emre Öktem
Becoming more so.
- Travis B. Hartwell
Present
- Sandra Large
Here here...
- Alemsah Ozturk
from iPhone
Here!
- Jeff P. Henderson
here..
- Chris Myles
Hello I am here!
- Chris Bellinger
hmm. Friendfeed response rate running about three times as good as a banner ad and about as good as a well placed Adword.
- Steve Wilhelm
Am I too late? I've been out crying at my personal Friendfeed funeral :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
✔ I'm not addicted. I can quit any time I want. I just don't want to. ;o)
- RetiredTeacherD
still lovin it
- Mark Sorsa-Leslie
Teacher: Awesome checkmark ;)
- Fajar Nurdiansyah
Jauser
- Flynn (Michael A. Volz)
from BuddyFeed
Yes it does ! :)
- Veda Informatics
Oh I'm late, just spend to much time at Streamy
- Michael Zehrer
:)
- M F
merhaba
- Sinan İŞLER
Here I am, having my first coffee in the morning.
- Federico Bolsoman
wazzzzup
- Andrew Salnikov
Breakfast FFeeding....
- David Peacock
Wof Wof, WOF !
- valerio fiandra
from iPhone
addiction check!
- ӊooқ
First site I launch
- Patrik Arwengrim
checked in
- Sarper Sılaoğlu
All present and correct!
- Paul M Evans
Présent! (for how long?)
- Zackatoustra
here I am
- nessuno
I send newbies straight to FriendFeed as the base for all of their online activities. I wonder how it will change.
- Sally Albright
I'm here
- Mackley ॐ
Present!
- Matthew Lang
ata ata hoglo hulu
- Dan H. Racek
[DEAN HOLMES]
- Dean Holmes
I recommend FF to some of my clients, and there are some companies and nonprofits with presences here—not like Twitter, but I'll be curious how that will be affected when FB takes over more. Most have FB fan pages, groups and/or causes, too.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Still here.......as always.
- Iain Baker
huh?
- bora "head" basman
Here I am
- l'Ego di Gigi
Because.....?
- Andrew Terry
from iPod
checked!
- Federì
yup
- Thomas Power
Wassup?
- Winston Teo
in
- paniaguai
howdy!
- Nir Ben Yona
I can give it up any time. I swear.
- Matt G
Here!
- Brome
Hey i'm in the hospital and I still checked.
- Steven Cogswell
from iPhone
Me definitely one of these. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Trying to keep the addiction low.
- Muthu Ramadoss
Buongiorno
- alex
Just another one.
- M. Elena
Yo.
- Carlton Hackett
What are we checking in for? Just to start a long thread?
- Adam Helweh
in
- MobilAdam
Where's duty free?
- Paul Downing
sorry i'm late :)
- Doruk Bayer
Late, but here I am.
- Filippo Ronco
Not an addict but I'm here anyway :-D
- Graham Lawrence
Reporting for duty.
- Mark H
Here I am! Would you collect 50M$ to "buy-back" FF? :)
- Marco Dal Pozzo
Yo
- Franz Binder
I hope I'm not an addict... ;-) Oh, well.
- Hanna Wiszniewska
вписался
- Alex Kapranoff
I'm here
- Nick Bristow
8 hours later? i passed it!
- Avi Joseph
yop!
- zooz
привет чятег! давайте зохватим этот тредик?
- Махатма Бугоганди
Yeah, me too. I just saw the request to have a comment link at the bottom of the comments from one of your friends just yesterday and here it is. I'd say they are listening. Thanks FF.
- Keith Rowland
ЧАТЕГ МЫ ТЕБЯ ЗАХВАТИМ!!!111
- чуваки
заходит чувак к Scoble, а там чатег
- опять двойка
Boom
- Simon Wicks
from iPhone
это наш чятег камон
- чуваки
а сколько у них тут каментов?
- Махатма Бугоганди
Давайте дадим чувакам ссылку на истинный чятег, пусть бояццо
- чуваки
пиццот
- чуваки
смешные
- Махатма Бугоганди
Свободу попугаям!
- Кеноби с кемпа
НАПИШИ ЗДЕСЬ ДВЕ ТЫСЯЧИ КАМЕНТОВ И ФРЕНДФИДИК ОСТАНЕТСЯ БЕСПЛАТНЫМ!!!
- чуваки
бггг
- Махатма Бугоганди
zdrastvitze!
- anna sauce
check!
- Maxim Getman
КТО ВСЕ ЭТИ ЛЮДИ???
- Танаев
Right Here!
- Ümit Orhan
present
- Tamara
http://friendfeed.com/ideali... MORE THAN 7000 COMMENTS IN SOVIETFRIENDFEEDIK
- чуваки
ОНИ ПРИШЛИ В НАШ ФРЕНДФИДИК!
- чуваки
слабаки, до нашего чатега им ещё работать и работать
- Танаев
Да здравствует народ Чятега. Скобл мы следим за тобой™! Let our friendfeed alone!
- ideali
это не тру чатик
- Танаев
^^ KAKIE VASHI DOKAZATELSTVA?
- Dmitry Fedorov
кстати, все помнят, что у Даши сегодня день рождения?
- Махатма Бугоганди
The view is better from here
- Anthony
ЧО, БУХАЕМ? ДАША ПРИВЕТ
- чуваки
Ин совьет унион чатег чатит тебя
- чуваки
они виноваты сами. пускай теперь терпят.
- ideali
о, зайка пришол!
- Махатма Бугоганди
здравствуй Зайка. ты кого сегодня сделал счастливым?
- Махатма Бугоганди
*facepalm*
- Alex Kapranoff
Дашенька, в этом уютном подобии чятега мы поздравляем тебя!
- ideali
All your base are белонг ту ас
- чуваки
Дашенька ушла в салон красоты, но я ей передам обязательно!
- Махатма Бугоганди
路过：）
- K.D.
кетайцам напалм привет
- чуваки
нитрогай кетайца, у него там коммунизм, ему тяжело
- Махатма Бугоганди
then ?
- alper*
чо сразу нитрогай, я превед передаю
- чуваки
превед кетайцам
- Танаев
И так чятег, пока Скобл не поговорит с нами представителями СовиетФрендфидика, все мои записи теперь можно читать в этом тредике. Пользуясь случае передаю Парню Бухайту и его команде большой привет, в связи с тем что [He can has sleep naw].
- ideali
превед кетаец! давай сегодня сделаем тебя счастливым!
- Махатма Бугоганди
а кто такой Скобл?
- Танаев
кстати да
- Махатма Бугоганди
И ещё десять твоих друзей тоже сделаем счастливыми, китаец, у нас сегодня акция
- чуваки
Мой Мир, вернись уже
- чуваки
в чатег призывается Цукенберррггг!
- чуваки
Greetings from Australia. Im here :-)
- Aussie_Camper
кто такой Скобл. и вообще, объясните мне плз про звезд американоязычного френдфидика - кто там есть кто?
- Махатма Бугоганди
зырьте, как притихли гики
- чуваки
фтыкают в кириллические интернеты
- чуваки
кто все эти люди™ ?
- brain
у них там ночь, они спят еще. вот проснуцца - прифигеют
- Махатма Бугоганди
Triple check
- Geer
не там а здеся. звёзды американоязычного френдфидика здеся. давайте их спросим
- чуваки
фаак, точно ночь
- чуваки
а чо удобно. утром мы говорим, вечером они
- чуваки
их спрашивать бессмысленно - сейчас они спят, а когда проснуцца, комменты уйдут далеко вверх
- Махатма Бугоганди
а мы ещщё напишем
- чуваки
хоть тысячу каментов-то мы им сделаем сейчас?
- Махатма Бугоганди
а чего там делать
- чуваки
:)
- Florent Morel
для тех кто в контексте урбаншипа канешн
- чуваки
All your base are belong to us
- brain
дурик
- чуваки
I am here Jedi master.
- Steve de Mena
про этого Скобла статья в википедии есть. он евангелист. работал в мелкософте и в фаст компани. известный блоггер.
- Махатма Бугоганди
кстати, можно обсудить вчерашник эпиктредик тут
- чуваки
я уже спрашивал у Зайки, кого он сегодня сделал счастливым, но он молчит
- Махатма Бугоганди
Митрич, этот скобл? http://be.wikipedia.org/wiki... Яндекс выдал
- чуваки
here
- Ahmet Soyata
точно! поэт, пародист, переводчик. известный блоггер.
- Махатма Бугоганди
я вчера был в издательстве, с меня сведения об авторе просят. давайте, говорят, напишем, где учился, что генеральный директор. и что известный блоггер.
- Махатма Бугоганди
пиши что генеральный блоггер
- чуваки
Here
- Kevin J Hatton
here I am
- Vedran Rudelj
да ладно!
- чуваки
чо ладно?
- Махатма Бугоганди
blessed are the sick
- um fo sho
Бесков, не ругайся
- Махатма Бугоганди
мафия засыпает просыпаются гики
- чуваки
а можно получить профессию известного блоггера? какие экзамены сдавать надо? какую специализацию лучше выбрать - микроблоггинг или аудиоподкастинг?
- Махатма Бугоганди
*где можно получить профессию*
- Махатма Бугоганди
экзамены надо не сдавать а принимать
- чуваки
тогда все скажут вот блоггер и будут хлопать хлопать
- чуваки
а кто сертификат дает, что экзамены принимать можно?
- Махатма Бугоганди
настоящий генеральный блоггер можно афтограф и ещё экзамен хачу здать
- чуваки
сам себе выдай что как маленький
- чуваки
юноше, обдумывающему жутьё
- чуваки
себе полайкай! (с)
- Махатма Бугоганди
только щас понял, что мы в тредике у Скобла разговариваем. Скобла, привеееет!
- чуваки
чо?
- Лучше не знать
всё!
- чуваки
ой чатег
- payalnik
паяльник привеееет
- чуваки
давай Скоблу сертификат выпишем?
- Махатма Бугоганди
сертификат "русский блоггеръ"?
- чуваки
известный блоггер
- Махатма Бугоганди
пусть с али поразговаривает. будем щитать што экзамен и сертификат сразу опа и выпишем
- чуваки
в псто призывается Фил, рисовать сертификат для Скобла
- Махатма Бугоганди
Checked-in
- Ozkan Altuner
согласен. экзамен принимает Зайка, сертификат рисует Фил. роли распределены.
- Махатма Бугоганди
чорт. я опаздываю. убежал. сделайте, пожалуйста, тысячу. я буду иногда появляться.
- Махатма Бугоганди
ок
- чуваки
привет всем в этом чате
- Слобода Свова
только до 7 тыщ ему всё равно не дорасти
- Слобода Свова
привет этому чатегу. в прошлый раз не участвовала, но тут грех не поддержать.
- Teinett
ээ, зачем второй чатик сделали?
- Один дяденька
показать американцам, где раки зимуют
- Слобода Свова
кстати, вы в курсе, что сегодня Россия играет с Аргентиной в Москве - отборочный матч на ЧМ-2010? сегодня в метро будет ЖЕЕЕЕЕЕЕСТЬ
- Teinett
http://ff.im/6urbH - Скоблу привет
- чуваки
пока они спят
- nundesign
О, кукуц пришол
- чуваки
сегодня в метро на машине не поеду ок
- чуваки
and here!
- Arnaud Fischer
Here!
- Simone Tedeschi
а кто-нибудь хоть раз катался в метро на машине? в рекламе это показывают, а реально? хотя бы слышали что-нибудь про ваших знакомых?
- Teinett
Фесйбук, где наши деньги? Мы ёрлиадоптеры, дай нам тоже бабла!
- Слобода Свова
me too, me too! Facebook baaaad, friendfeed gooood!! :-)
- Chris Pantazis
Скобла, защити наши интересы!
- Слобода Свова
не не слышали
- чуваки
О, греки пришли. Греки привееет!
- чуваки
girls, send your photos here ->
- Слобода Свова
let's chat!!!!1111111oneoneeleveneleven
- Слобода Свова
но только чтоп по-русски
- Слобода Свова
а ещё кстате можно всем дружно переименоваться в "Robert Scoble"
- чуваки
тема
- Слобода Свова
сиськам да!
- чуваки
кстати, IM пропускает 90% сообщений. :( как вы следите за этим чатегом?
- Teinett
МОНЕТИЗАЦИЯ
- Махатма Бугоганди
по русски не катит, они там не поймут
- чуваки
как как, из веба
- чуваки
yeah
- Amber, Random Time Lord
МОНЕТИЗИРУЙ @ ЛАЙКАЙ
- чуваки
а работа стоит?
- Teinett
Guys, you russians are best!
- Слобода Свова
yep!
- чуваки
уук
- Слобода Свова
опять русские с балалайками наперевес
- Один дяденька
руски блоггир привет
- чуваки
с блаблаблайками
- Слобода Свова
БАЛАЛАЙКАЙ
- чуваки
Ждем на машабле статью "после слияния с фейсбуком в уютный френдфидик ломанулись русские"
- опять двойка
это напоминает мне одну историю про Сосидко
- Слобода Свова
не помню
- чуваки
это что еще за на?
- Гении о легендах :▒
I'm still here. You won't get trid of me that easily.
- James Myatt
а ты не был на канале #2ch
- Слобода Свова
это не на! это чятег!
- чуваки
привет чятег!
- Sergey Juchkov
here!
- Emanuele Guicciardi
Старый добрый френдфидиик
- чуваки
ыч
- Billy
Фил по вашему указанию прибыл. Чо рисуем?
- Ph
привент ивангелистам
- Гении о легендах :▒
Скобла и Митрича
- чуваки
менья зовут Иван Гелист
- чуваки
И чо они должны делать?
- Ph
тусня Скоблов
- Гении о легендах :▒
а ты почитай тредик)
- чуваки
Фил, рисуй все подряд :)
- Sergey Juchkov
Скобла привеет!
- чуваки
Вот еще, тредики читать! Я настоящий Friendfeed Addict - я пишу и рисую, а не читаю.
- Ph
русиш фантастиш скоблз
- Гении о легендах :▒
ок
- чуваки
Скобл - это чувак с самым большим на данный момент количеством friends of в Френдфиде.
- опять двойка
dı rırı dı rırı dı rırı cant touch this :P
- Sinan İŞLER
сериаладдер штоле?
- чуваки
ну значит мы пришли в нужное место
- чуваки
чятег, превед!
- 14 other people
Наскоблил себе друзей.
- Ph
Руски френдфидик выходит на международную арену
- чуваки
Have I accidentally clicked a translation button or something?!?
- Nicola Quinn
массфрендер, масс его
- Гении о легендах :▒
Скоблогер
- чуваки
中文用户 飘过 :)
- Roger.Wei
транслейшен ему, смотрите
- чуваки
^^^ гыгыгы
- 14 other people
Дебютирует так сказать
- Гении о легендах :▒
Учу албанскому
- чуваки
from Russia with Love
- опять двойка
hello
- Ru Viljoen
privet
- чуваки
интересно в каком словаре можно перевести с русского массфрендер
- Гении о легендах :▒
чего и добивались
- чуваки
нет, не сериаладдер, просто популярный чел.
- опять двойка
Придёт настоящий Скобл и зобанит всех!
- чуваки
да не важно кто что говорит, Скоблись
- Гении о легендах :▒
Грядёт настоящий Скобл
- чуваки
от скобла слышу!
- чуваки
Один чувак пришол в чятег и говорит я известный блоггер кто тут тру на первый второй рассчитайсь. А ему говорят чувак у тебя сертификат есть что ты известный блоггер? Вот иди Зайке экзамен сдай потом приходи. А Зайка стоит такой с топором и улыбается. Щас думает счастливым его сделаю.
- Махатма Бугоганди
ты кого скоблом назвал?
- Гении о легендах :▒
Yeah still kickin
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
А другой чуваг пришол в чятег и говорит mi sami ne mestnie chekin pozhaluisto
- чуваки
Holy moly
- ◄ani625Ξ
I'm hererererererererere
- FFTornado
всем учить русский!
- Гении о легендах :▒
Скобла знаишь?
- чуваки
Кого ищё знаишь?
- чуваки
каждый день в зеркале вижу
- Гении о легендах :▒
албанский
- Sergey Juchkov
learn albanian!
- Sergey Juchkov
oh, now it's all water, all water...
- K.D.
i can speak albanian ok ok
- чуваки
время от времени прорываются addicts забавно
- Гении о легендах :▒
зобанить их
- Гении о легендах :▒
@pozorro, на сертификат отдельно опубликуй, как нарисуешь!
- nomoretears
они оскоблевают чо
- чуваки
аддикты чятега
- опять двойка
do you know the longest thread in friendfeed is in Russian?:)) link http://ff.im/2OQex
- K.D.
если забанить - с кем трепаться?
- Sergey Juchkov
you lie
- чуваки
Почему каждый использованием Роберт Scoble как зовут?
- Matthew Horton
ЧО СКАЗАЛ САМ ПОНЯЛ ДА
- чуваки
ololo
- Гении о легендах :▒
Nice Russian Robert, Bulgarian isn't far off, be happy to teach you :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
it's very smal thread in russian
- Sergey Juchkov
гугл транслейтерс камон
- чуваки
Google Translate тебе в помощь
- Гении о легендах :▒
Болгария привееет
- чуваки
ё
- Sergey Juchkov
here is the link http://ff.im/2OQex
- K.D.
привет и добър ден :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
я так думаю веселье только начинается
- чуваки
@dobata hello
- Sergey Juchkov
партизанщина сплошная
- Гении о легендах :▒
Здравей, България! Как ви времето? :)
- nomoretears
линкер, все ещё впереди
- Sergey Juchkov
@grantape да без разницы, nevermind
- Гении о легендах :▒
Он придет и молча забанит всё.
- Махатма Бугоганди
Вавилонская башня, realy ((=
- brain
I'll still be around as long as this site exists.
- Neurario
Polacy?
- Sergey Juchkov
Да я полиглот прям
- чуваки
Češi mají jedno?
- Sergey Juchkov
хрена тебе. это я польский и чешский знаю :)
- Sergey Juchkov
Here, Mostly!
- Kreg Steppe
Хере Мостли
- Гении о легендах :▒
@sergey morning @nomeratears мрачно...чакаме слънцето
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
@Dobromir 早上好！：）
- K.D.
wombata misserious
- um fo sho
ОМГ. На меня подписался китаец, который тут в чятеге разговаривает! Чувак, тебе зачем?
- Махатма Бугоганди
он руски учит я думать
- чуваки
here I am !
- Giovanni Cappellotto
各位早安
- Roger.Wei
вдруг и ты взаимностью ответишь...
- Гении о легендах :▒
а иероглифы можно копипастить из википедии
- чуваки
А, он сразу же и отписался. Сириалэддер? Может, у него скрипт?
- Махатма Бугоганди
да можно из постов чувака повыше
- Гении о легендах :▒
Доктор, у меня скрипт.
- Махатма Бугоганди
приссал
- чуваки
(я ушел на час)
- Махатма Бугоганди
пей масло
- Гении о легендах :▒
доктор, выньте скоблу
- чуваки
汗，上面的Robert都是假的_ _!!!
- K.D.
vi a ze chempionz
- um fo sho
亲眼目睹的事情，有一年过年，深圳梅林一个邮局，很多人排队寄钱回家，有个民工等着等着睡着了，抓在手上的几张钱撒了一地，保安就过去叫醒了他，让他小心钱，他说没办法，连续加了几个晚上的班，眼睛都睁不开了，保安马上和VIP室的 ...
- Гении о легендах :▒
НЕПИЗДИ!
- чуваки
Митрич, ему байки интересны.
- Sergey Juchkov
I'm alive :)
- Dimitar Tsonev
Скобалайзер мод он.
- Гении о легендах :▒
Ехал Скобл через Скобл. Видит Скобл в Скобл Скобл. Сунул Скобл Скобл в Скобл. СКОБЛ СКОБЛ СКОБЛ СКОБЛ!
- Кеноби с кемпа
what's with all the Russian? Can I have a large Calzone please?
-