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I just signed up for the "Curated.By" beta...This beta addiction is getting out of control.
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Hey, how do you like it? I would love to get your feedback at: bastian@curated.by - Also Louis, you should get on it! You would like it, i think.
- Bastian
Bastien, I would love to give you feedback, but I haven't gotten an invite yet:( Submitted my email last night.
- Liza + = ?
Maybe not, but in Belarus time zone?
- Liza + = ?
Have iPhone 4 and it's perfect. What is left for iPhone 5 but Verizon or 4G? I think we've reached a stabilization point.
True.
- Bastian
I liked a YouTube video -- John Underkoffler points to the future of UI http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Nice!
- Bastian
Literally only just opening my laptop... So yeah, that'll be a busy morning then!
What about the iPad?
- Bastian
Don't watch and drive Robert! :)
- Bastian
No watching necessary. Most speeches can be listened to. I'm listening to Gillmor Gang right now.
- Robert Scoble
I do that all the time in my car - Ustream should do a driving mode that turns off the video so you're not tempted
- Jesse Stay
hat jemand eine Quelle wo steht wieviele Leute auf Twitter nur lesen, aber selbst nix schreiben? Danke!
Have a look here: http://www.sysomos.com/insidet... and here: http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive...
- Bastian
Drop of water at 2000 fps (very cool) - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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This is pretty cool.
- Bastian
I didn't see this segment, but I was watching this special in my hotel room when I was at the society of rheology conference. It made me think that I need a high speed camera. For science, of course ;)
- Clare Dibble
This is very cool. I'd like to see it with other liquids, and water with different this mixed in. Like soap for instance, which messes with the surface tension...what happens then?
- scherbi: bottom dweller
hi
- soso
Are there any liquids that don't have surface tension?
- Gabe
My husband and I are addicted to the show Time Warp: random things done in front of high speed cameras. The oldies but goodies like popping a water balloon are stil my favorite...
- FFing Enigma
That's amazing, which is why science rocks! :)
- imabonehead
Love it! I want to have 2000 fps water drops as my screensaver.
- EricaJoy
Very cool!
- Garin Kilpatrick
Amazing. What else would be interesting to visualize at 2000 fps?
- Philippe
True beauty
- glowing and vibrating
from iPhone
There is only as much beauty in nature as you can appreciate and not a grain more. thoreau
- Robert Higgins
+Bill I wanna see Quicksilver or Mercury at 2000 FPS
- Robert Higgins
Я предпологал!!!! :) Теперь я знаю!!!!
- atner
Gillmor Gang recording live 1PM Pacific http://www.building43.com/realtim...
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Looks like Bret Taylor of Facebook is talking with the Gang....
- Cliff Gerrish
Hopefully Bret shows up. Otherwise we'll be forced to talk about Twitter's new lists feature and you know where THAT will lead!
- Robert Scoble
I want to get a few words in about http://bit.ly/Spawn on Gillmor Gang today
- Kevin Marks
we will start in a minute.
- Robert Scoble
Only 13 viewers?
- beersage
Gillmor Gang is recorded live in front of a live studio audience.
- Cliff Gerrish
Oops, missed my calendar notification for this week's episode.
- Matt M (inactive)
The names have not been changed to protect the innocent...
- Aron Michalski
Gillmor Gang is recorded live in front of a real-time web audience...
- Kevin Marks
I'm happy to see a simplification of the Facebook API. That's one issue I've always had with the platform. The initial learning curve is very steep.
- Matt M (inactive)
Scoble still wants to port your email address out of Facebook...
- Cliff Gerrish
I don't have enough friends in my email address book to make Scoble's screen look busy enough
- Aron Michalski
I did a little hacking on this with @bradfitz's code at http://unmung.appspot.com
- Kevin Marks
The question is should Scoble be able to send your email address to another platform, or another application.
- Cliff Gerrish
Do I have to agree to TOS with Scoble or does he have to agree with me?
- Aron Michalski
Facebook is the intermediary. Although you have a social contact with Scoble.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: I did a brute force workaround. I just manually copied the email addresses I wanted into Outlook myself.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it's the programatic access that can lead to looting of addess books.
- Cliff Gerrish
The TOS doesn't forbid me from doing that and it only took a few hours.
- Robert Scoble
Cliff: yeah, but sorry, if you are a spammer you just go to Mechanical Turk and pay someone to do it.
- Robert Scoble
Yes, I agree. But the question is should Facebook facilitate the process?
- Cliff Gerrish
Putting money in front of a spammer's problem will reduce the amount of spam dramatically (which is why spammer probably won't use mturk). Maybe Facebook should charge per-user/per-transaction fees to extract email addresses?
- Matt M (inactive)
"Facebook is an identity platform." Very interesting competitive landscape -- Twitter, Google, MSFT, Comcast?
- Cliff Gerrish
"Your inside is out, and your outside is in"
- Cliff Gerrish
Comcast? You mean Plaxo?
- Ken Sheppardson
"Open Graph API" is a really confusing name for adding webpages to FB as feeds
- Kevin Marks
Actually I'm thinking of Comcast making Cable available through the Network for its users.
- Cliff Gerrish
And the topic of attention and identity which were of interest to a small group of us is now an issue for a very large group of users.
- Aron Michalski
Haven't checked the roadmap but I wonder if there will be more possibilities for API use with pages and not just the main FB friend stream.
- beersage
Seems like financial institutions have a better identity play, but they're hopeless with this kind of thing. Credit Cards have a jump on it. Telecoms could also have an opening.
- Cliff Gerrish
Does the open graph address pages or items in a stream?
- Cliff Gerrish
Anyone ask about the problem of Facebook owning our social graph?
- Kurt Jarchow
so FB's "Open Graph API" is the opposite of the Social Graph API that reveals existing connections.
- Kevin Marks
This aspect is interesting, in that presence on the internet for a long time could be anonymous and now the value will be from having a unified ID.
- Aron Michalski
So it Bret saying it's just marketing spin at this point? ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
You'll see that the owners of the pipe, the bankers and the retailers all want to know who we are so they can get paid.
- Aron Michalski
can we identify the source of the metadata item and allow for filtering of what's a valid linkage?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert, are you coming out for SideWiki for Facebook profiles?
- Cliff Gerrish
:-)
- Robert Scoble
wonder if Bret saw the Realtime chat games orkut launched http://code.google.com/apis...
- Kevin Marks
shared labels - is what i would like to see
- Bastian
For 'movies' shouldn't I just be able to pipe my Netflix data over?
- Cliff Gerrish
Netflix already exports Activity Streams of your movies - FB should read them
- Kevin Marks
Yes, rather than building a new and separate data set. Our combining the sets.
- Cliff Gerrish
Bret really shouldn't speak of FriendFeed in the past tense.
- Cliff Gerrish
Cliff: FriendFeed is not getting new engineering work.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah he said "was"...
- Bastian
It's often more revealing to hear how people talk about things indirectly than to hear them answer direct questions.
- Ken Sheppardson
better late than never...i'll have to catch the first 30 minutes on replay.
- Karoli
Friendfeed's conversations aren't duplicated by any of the other players.
- Cliff Gerrish
Why would FB buy FF if they weren't headed down that road? To use it or kill it?
- Aron Michalski
Interesting to hear the idea of protocols driven by User Interfaes in the realtime space.
- Cliff Gerrish
FriendFeed is still rolling out features: http://friendfeed.com/friendf...
- Tinfoil 2.0
I totally agree with Robert. The Friendfeed search is incredibly powerful and useful.
- Karoli
Permalinks for stream items is a critical feature.
- Cliff Gerrish
how long has Bret been in the FB world :) - he's being asked questions about future growth and planning that he may not have even been in the meetings that cover those new items yet :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
FB conversations are fractured, across different pages and places. Mobile experience can be a cul de sac of death for a conversation...
- Aron Michalski
my criticism of Facebook has nothing to do with the stream. it has to do with the mashup of everyone I've ever known in my entire life.
- Karoli
i think it's great that i see other people's comments when i comment on an item on FB
- Bastian
I'd like my stream to show me things that I initially reject, and then later come to accept.
- Cliff Gerrish
Facebook represents my "real" social network only as it existed 25 years ago.
- Ken Sheppardson
we need more depth as to what a "friend" is - need to factor in FOAF items
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Ken, i wish it was that way. It has pieces of every aspect and social graph I've had for my entire life.
- Karoli
I'm starting to realize and appreciate Robert as an underdamped dynamic system, oscillating wildly but eventually settling/converging on a steady signal, e.g. the comments today on Wave vs the initial reaction. And I mean that as a compliment, Robert :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
There is plenty of conversations I am glad to leave off of FB; 90% of the people from my past have no clue about any of what we are discussing and don't care.
- Aron Michalski
Ken, yea - that's a great way to describe him. I agree that he should take it as a compliment
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I do.
- Robert Scoble
Again, it is easy to bring content into FB but why can't I subscribe to an RSS feed of a page like I can w/ a Twitter user?
- beersage
my problem: 90% of the people I have contact with in real life have me friended on FB and HATE my politics, leaving me with fluffy little bullshit updates. No conversation. Just nonsense.
- Karoli
The FB pipes need to be full duplex.
- Cliff Gerrish
I think the part of FF we'll never see in FB is the basic lack of walls in FF and the philosophy that anything and everything can flow freely into and out of the system.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken, FF may be the outside part of FB.
- Cliff Gerrish
how is the spewing of netflix queuing any different that all of those mafia wars or farm app updates I get on FB ;)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
If that's the case, Cliff, I'd like to see them embrace that. I may have missed a bunch of signals, but I'm still working on the assumption that FF is feature frozen and will be subsumed into FB.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm glad that neither FF or FB or Twitter will be the hot new toy we all talk about this time next year!
- Bastian
Bastian: Twitter is about to release more new features than it has EVER released. Are you sure we won't be talking about them in a year?
- Robert Scoble
Bastian, where would be talking about whatever we'll be talking about.
- Cliff Gerrish
By the way, Tina says 'hi' to the chat...
- Cliff Gerrish
Robert, only if Twitter survives their own creativity and popularity
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
We should have OpenFF any day now... :-/
- Ken Sheppardson
hi back at Tina :)
- Karoli
Robert is raring to have a discussion about Twitter lists. :)
- beersage
bear: I'm pretty sure that in a year we'll be doing Twitter. Two years, though? Maybe not. Things don't change that fast when they have such momentum.
- Robert Scoble
I'm loving this shot of the studio. Rock on.
- Karoli
Robert: Twitter maybe, but i'm even more excited about new third party tools build on Tiwtter. Even so everything i was told from the people i know at Twitter, there are cool things coming.
- Bastian
yea, that was a great studio shot - nice layout
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
"talking a little about"... so, it's not imminent :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Generalizing twitter to many kinds of Activity Streams is interesting, and I hope Bret picks up on that
- Kevin Marks
The thing about FF & Twitter is that they make it possible to curate a stream of a niche topic and put it into context w/ other content on a website. Lost of potential. With FB, you cant use any valuable stream there outside. Still a walled garden.
- beersage
I have to say, time listening to the Gillmor Gang is always well spent!
- Bastian
yay sponsors!
- Karoli
bye all
- Karoli
good show
- Jamie
Hah, Kevin got cut off. That was a short edition.
- beersage
great show - I am loving the increase in quality discussion and the decrease in loud noises - thanks!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
http://bit.ly/Spawn is Ribbit's launch next Thursday
- Kevin Marks
Defrag is week after next - agenda: http://defragcon.com/2009...
- Kevin Marks
Um @mashable if you think Cliqset is FriendFeed done right I have a bridge to sell you. Looks like a clone without FF's best features.
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Damn, this article so misses the mark it isn't even funny.
- Robert Scoble
i agree robert
- andy brudtkuhl
Tech reporters should need to do their homework before writing headlines like this: http://mashable.com/2009... this is the worst article I've ever seen Mashable write.
- Robert Scoble
Mashable should pull that article and do a better job of editing before they publish.
- Hugh Briss
More discussion here: http://friendfeed.com/tad...
- Robert Scoble
Hugh: my problem is 70% with the headline, but 30% with the lack of effort to understanding FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, i know you are not the biggest Wave fan yet, but have you tried looking into the public waves? Just add: public@a.gwave.com as a contact, then define a search for example "with:public@a.gwave.com" and you get the full stream. We have a fun discussion over at Hacker News: http://www.victusspiritus.com/2009... I guess you probably know about it already :)
- Bastian
Yes, Public Waves are interesting. But far too geeky. If Mashable writers complain they don't get FriendFeed well, then, they have no hope of getting Google Wave.
- Robert Scoble
I agree, silly article about Cliqset.
- Bastian
If your going to compare something to something else at least try and give me a grid or something to show the features differences. Cnet's prize fights or Louis Gray's excellent article on twitter clients http://blog.louisgray.com/2009... are examples of how it should be done.
- Luke Kilpatrick
totally agree, the problem with Cliqset is that they will now be always labelled as a friendfeed clone.. people should move away from putting a clone stamp on services and let them be their own value.
- Jaap Willem
RT @Christina Warren: Oh FriendFeed Mafia. Calling people who don't get your service dumb is a real way to win friends and influence people
- Wins Fern
Wins: another inaccuracy. No one ever called her "dumb." I called her article the worst Mashable has ever written. But they are not the same thing.
- Robert Scoble
I bet it would be pretty easy to find worse Mashable articles. Given the site's longevity and frequency of publishing, they are no doubt out there. But it would make sense that if you were set up to present a case as an authority figure/journalist, you would have a good idea of the services being compared, and that's not the case here.
- Louis Gray
BTW, thanks Luke. I didn't see your link until now, but I agree! :)
- Louis Gray
Louis: y ou are probably right but this is one I know a bit about so can be authoritative on pointing it out. I don't remember anything with a more incorrect headline on Mashable, though.
- Robert Scoble
I like this one: "How would you insult Robert Scoble?" http://friendfeed.com/mashabl...
- Daniel J. Pritchett
Twitter is in a brownout.
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wondered if it was just me...
- walidmREALTOR
but no fail whale :)
- Kashif Khan
On a positive note, we just got Foursquare in London today.
- Bastian
looks like about 3 hours now...
- walidmREALTOR
my server side states show no timeline updates for 3 hours but some search updates. also if you go directly to some peoples pages it's hit-or-miss if their timeline shows updates. Nothing mentioned on the IRC dev channel and one status.twitter.com update an hour ago about it. But the feed from twitter to friendfeed is working partially.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Working fine from here so far today.
- Kathy Fitch
from iPhone
Kathy: it looks like it is working but it is not.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Thought it was just me.
- Darrel Davis
I got a fail whale! Woo Hoo!!!! oh wait.. =(
- RAD Moose
lol...Something is clogging the Twitter stream! - CNET News
- walidmREALTOR
Now why would someone think it was "just me" when Twitter has an issue? LOL
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
It's weird, because the API seems to still be working. I sent a tweet and it went out to FF and FB.
- Veronica
Veronica: yes but something is really screwed up.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I really don't understand lotsa funding is poured in already for twitter and still cannot manage to cope with data
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Gotcha--haven't really been active there today. Mostly just auto feeding fb updates.
- Kathy Fitch
from iPhone
I asked about it. What's happening at Twitter?
- Helge V. Keitel
Sunny: funding takes a while to turn into new machines and architectures and such.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Robert, I wasn't disagreeing with you.
- Veronica
Robert: may be you are right but they need to better accelerate the conversion
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
I wasn't disagreeing with you either! :-)
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Na fail whale for me, but retrieving tweets from any client seems impossible, posting from clients drags slower than snail mail, and twitter site takes ages to load, but it does load. It's been on like this since yesterday. I dont know what the problem is, but likely another hack attack. Time has come Twitter learned how to deal with bot attacks already! Grrr.
- Olivia Lovag
Yup...last updates over 3 hours ago. Oops!
- Kathy Fitch
from iPhone
And this is future of Twitter?
- W. Kirk Crawford
It's been this way between twitter and FriendFeed for a long time: http://friendfeed.com/mediaph...
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
My personal updates up to twitter ... but I am not seeing the updates of those I follow. This applies to the API and the Web page. Rather vexing. Using FF as a stand in while Twitter sorts itself out.
- Caleb
I would suggest that there is ZERO or NO truth to the rumor that Twitter is browning out because Jesse and I were at their HQ yesterday. NO truth to it. NONE.
- Louis Gray
Louis - did you guys sabotage Twitter HQ?
- andy brudtkuhl
Twitter up ?
- Sunny (The Geek Lord)
Things have been eerily quiet...hmmm
- Jerry Perez
Quiet be4 the holidays coming into the full force
- polou/indigo_bow
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ at service for those who wondered if it was “just me”.
- Кто это тут у нас
ahh - via status.twitter.com "We are currently investigating a problem causing many users’ timelines to be delayed. We will update with status here shortly."
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Same here. No updates for 2 hours...
- Bastian
Post-Medium Publishing - http://www.paulgraham.com/publish...
When you see something that's taking advantage of new technology to give people something they want that they couldn't have before, you're probably looking at a winner.
- Bastian
My FitBit has arrived. Will it encourage me to get in shape? Or is it yet another intrusion into privacy? Let's discuss here:
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http://www.fitbit.com This is a small device you carry with you. It keeps track of your activity during the day. The website asks you to keep track of other things like what you are eating. It shows you how you are doing every day. Oh, and you can share this too. I'm really wondering whether I should. On one side the peer pressure would help me get into exercising. On the other side I really don't want my lack of exercise to be part of the public discourse. :-)
- Robert Scoble
awesome. Can't wait to see the six pack
- Zee.
I can't wait to get mine...still waiting...
- Mike Bracco
Zee is right, you probably look like Lou Ferrigno soon!
- Bastian
The next piece of the puzzle would be to have something that auto-registers all the calories you eat and not have it be a manual process. I've used the Daily Burn and their iPhone app but it's still a rather manual process. While the fitbit is cool for seeing cals burned, you really need the other side of the equation of cals consumed to really see what's going on.
- Mike Bracco
Bastian: that's not very probable. In High School I ran two hours every day and did four marathons and I didn't look anything like Lou Ferrigno, but I sure was in shape!
- Robert Scoble
Without knowing the effects of our actions or habits - how do we really know what to change in our lifestyles? If used consistently, the Fitbit provides great Personal Metrics that can help you see what you could do to improve your lifestyle. The Fitbit really turns the process of staying (or getting) healthy into something that's measurable and interactive - seamlessly (and relatively effortlessly) blending the technology with lifestyle.
- Sarah Doody
I think for personal use and ways to improve your health it's a great idea; however, controlling the data and where it does is a must. I blog about many such devices and there are insurance companies who offer discounts to employees who agree to participate in wellness program that review and get involved in the process, so make sure you know where your data goes and who gets to see it,...
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- MedicalQuack
Steven: Yeah I definitely agree that the barcode scanning is the best solution today. When I said making it easier I was really talking about big picture/way down the road tech that doesn't' exist today. It would have to be some sort of nano-bot in your body that sampled food and registered caloric information upon consumption. Obviously something that doesn't exist today :)
- Mike Bracco
UCLA has a program/study where they are looking at participatory sensing with devices that report data, how do we work with them without disruption and stay within privacy laws, this is going to get real interesting as this area grows. http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2009...
- MedicalQuack
Steve, I also used to log my rowing workouts with Concept2 - I agree, great motivation. That's element of competition - whether against self or others - certainly moves us to make changes in our habits. Another thing I've noticed - with all the location based tools (such as Foursquare) - this element of peer motivation is become more common. For example, if I get a notification that my...
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- Sarah Doody
Robert: as for you question about privacy, Google can already track every website you search for. To me, that is a lot more personal than how many calories I burned today or how long my run was. Obviously my health records are a different issue but the info that fitbit captures about you is not that sensitive or a big risk - IMHO.
- Mike Bracco
I know some people will hate this idea but imagine how much more efficient health insurance could be if everyone was monitored in this way. You could easily see who has healthy habits and who doesn't and then charge those who don't' higher premiums. A large part of the healthcare issue is due to the fact that the system doesn't reward (or punish) people based on diet and exercise habits.
- Mike Bracco
Just saw this post. Robert ( or anyone who just got one) did you just get it? I ordered 2 last winter and was wondering. Thanks
- Tracy Benham
Mike, you should check out an article that Techcrunch wrote on a new company (not launched yet) called HealthyWage http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
- Sarah Doody
I want one as well, but there are not available in Canada... I hope it will help you get in shape, every little motivation helps!
- Tyson Williams
I'm still waiting for mine to show up in the mail. I'll be happier if I can better track sleep and the other things which it instruments.
- rob friedman
Joanna Geary (timesjoanna) - Times of London on Twitter - Journalists on Muck Rack - http://muckrack.com/timesjo...
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Nice. I'm home this afternoon and get to see it live for the first time.
- Amyloo
ditto. no sound either.
- Christopher Harris
We're getting there
- Brett Slatkin
The test pattern looks good so far.
- Matt M (inactive)
We are starting shortly.
- Robert Scoble
whoooo! shortly!
- Christopher Harris
Please stand by...
- Robert Scoble
It's on
- Matt M (inactive)
Cool
- Ken Sheppardson
Rackspace is wasting their money, they could reach 175000 geeks by advertising on TWiT
- Mark
first time i'm seeing the new video :)
- Christopher Harris
Mark: who said we won't do that too?
- Robert Scoble
Alright... need to pull up Dave's Twitter stream in another window...
- Ken Sheppardson
look at that chizzled jaw, lucky guy
- Mark
dave winer?
- Christopher Harris
Considering we're watching video sucked over Skype and rebroadcast over ustream, the quality is pretty good.
- Matt M (inactive)
"Fast RSS." I liek that generic term. Harkens to fast zombies.
- Amyloo
Fast feeds - like fast food? Will there be a Slow Feeds movement?
- Kevin Marks
Polling sucks.
- Bob Wyman
Bob: can you explain why you think that?
- Robert Scoble
And how that fits into this conversation?
- Robert Scoble
Knowing "what's new" is pretty important - as important as "something is new".
- Matt M (inactive)
Scoble: It's inefficient.
- Eric Florenzano
Aha I'm awake in time for the gillmor gang.
- Hilary Talbot
polling wastes resources on both sides of the connection for the majority of the time when there are no new items
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Hey Hil.
- Amyloo
hey Amy :)
- Hilary Talbot
Scoble: Think of the browser. V1 of friendfeed was polling. You had to ask (by refreshing) whether there was new content. This version of friendfeed is push, where FriendFeed tells you when there's new stuff.
- Eric Florenzano
bear: right, so is Pubsubhubbub doing it right or wrong? And, is there a better way?
- Robert Scoble
the key part is that it's sending the content along with the item - this dramatically reduces client complexity
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
By "server", he means "hub", re: doing more work. The blogs do as much work as they do today (ie: ping the hub).
- Matt M (inactive)
Hubbub is doing it right IMO
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Scoble: Just remember everything I said to you 5 or 6 years ago when explaining why PubSub was useful and why "one-day" people would realize that real-time would be good. Nothing has changed.
- Bob Wyman
Bob: yup, I'm slow. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Robert: You need to get more "real-time"!
- Bob Wyman
Right - this is the HTTP/HTML version of what PubSub has been doing for XMPP
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Absolutely. No question. Yes.
- Bob Wyman
Yeah. It could do twitter.
- Matt M (inactive)
correction - I'm not the CTO - I don't think Johann would like me taking his job :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Oh, sorry.
- Robert Scoble
Is it possible Bill Gates had it right, Business at the speed of Thought? We want content and information as we think it.
- Owen Greaves
I get confused. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Someone ask Recordon if they've figured out how all this can relate to activitystrea.ms, the streams protocol Facebook, MySpace, and others support
- Jesse Stay
no worries :) I like the promotion
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
which is Atom based
- Jesse Stay
You'd have a hard time doing twitter over rssCloud - you'd have to be pulling the last 30 twitter messages after each tweet. That's 30x the traffic.
- Matt M (inactive)
If you were designing this sort of system from scratch today, I can't imagine that you'd take a polling approach. It's legacy left over from page-based web browsing.
- Ken Sheppardson
This is a great fit for activitystrea.ms
- Kevin Marks
Kevin, that's what I was thinking - both being Atom, they ought to fit together well. I'd love to see a use-case in action.
- Jesse Stay
Yeah, activitystrea.ms works easily with Atom which can then be made real time using PSHB.
- David Recordon
robert - easily - Seesmic ran in the cloud until we finally needed more memory for the Java side
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
polling is useful as a fallback and to pull history when subscribing for the first time.
- Kevin Marks
Can we all just agree on "Hubbub" vs "PuSH" or saying "pubsubhubbub" every time... once and for all? :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
I'd love to see Brett's opinion on why Twitter won't implement PSHB
- Jesse Stay
It requires a big player just to have the operations staff to maintain a high volume site
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Jesse: I was just about to ask that.
- Robert Scoble
Tornado uses epoll and it's been used by Twisted Python
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
but if it's distributed - it would scale out anyway
- Ankush Narula
Kqueue too :) (Well, Twisted does support that, Tornado doesn't yet)
- Eric Florenzano
Twitter won't implement it because they want to be the hub, and they want everybody to use their own, proprietary APIS
- Ken Sheppardson
Ankush - correct - until you get "scobled" (i.e. when you have one user with a huge number of followers)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Mike: and wait until you get onto Oprah! :-)
- Robert Scoble
Sounds like DNS
- Rob La Gesse
Ken, I understand the Hub part, but I can't help wonder if they just don't understand how it could help their API. They could use their own hub if they wanted.
- Jesse Stay
Are Hubbub and rssCloud the same thing? (...he asks, feigning innocence)
- Ken Sheppardson
The PSHB protocol is "simple" and fairly trivial implementations are possible. But, *any* single hub that monitors millions of feeds is going to need care and feeding. There will be *very large* hubs and their will be tiny hubs and they can all work together happily.
- Bob Wyman
I'd love to know if Brett or Brad have reached out to Twitter in any way
- Jesse Stay
Ken: no. Similar efforts but come from different histories. RSSCloud comes from Dave Winer's side of the house.
- Robert Scoble
robert - oh hell no - that's what Loic is good at
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
the distinction is that PubSubHubbub sends the fat pings with content in; rssCloud sends an update notification and still needs a poll
- Kevin Marks
Mike: actually Loic has someone speaking at LeWeb that has a bigger global brand than Oprah.
- Robert Scoble
robert - yea, I haven't found out who yet - i'm curioius about that
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
It's Dr. Laura isn't it Robert?
- Jesse Stay
what happens if a hub dies?
- Ankush Narula
Jesse: way bigger than that.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, Twitter wants other people to adopt their streaming API, if anything... they don't want to be yet another hub in some network
- Ken Sheppardson
rssCloud causes "thundering herd" problem on source blogs. The result can be a complete swamping of smaller publishers. This was the core "mistake" in rssCloud when it was first done 7 years ago and it remains the core error in that protocol.
- Bob Wyman
How about working with the OMB guys? Why PSHB vs. OMB protocol?
- Jesse Stay
yea, Twitter got burned with XMPP early in their engineering life so have a bad taste for it - they got burned not because of XMPP but because of other non-tech reasons
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Jesse - IMO OMB should allow for atom payloads - then it could become part of PSHB by default
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
OMB could generate activitystrea.ms + PSHB too
- Kevin Marks
Thundering herd would be a *huge* problem if Twitter were to get decentralized. Oprah has 1MM+ followers - that's 20 tweets * 1k * 1MM subscribers on each tweet.
- Matt M (inactive)
Celine Dion probably has a bigger brand than Opera, and she speaks French (ADD kicking in here)
- Jesse Stay
Bear, interesting
- Jesse Stay
Bear: The issue wasn't XMPP the protocol, it was the software they used to implement it, the systems they built to feed it, the way they configured it, etc... XMPP isn't, a priori, any worse than the alternatives.
- Bob Wyman
OMB made a big mistake when they created their own protocol instead of just extending ATOM, IMO
- Eric Florenzano
Bob, yes - you said it much better than I did - I was trying to say just that
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
There was also the on again/off again relationship Twitter had with Gnip that confused the whole XMPP situation
- Ken Sheppardson
Yeah, I don't really see what OMB gets you these days given activitystrea.ms, Hubbub, etc. Seems redundant.
- Ken Sheppardson
We have an interesting interview with Gnip's founder on Building43 right now, by the way.
- Robert Scoble
@Matt: Right. with rssCloud, publishing becomes massively expensive if you get popular. rssCloud will, on the other hand, work well for people who aren't very popular and don't have many people interested in what they publish. For those folk, rssCloud is a potential solution... :-)
- Bob Wyman
Gnip link: http://www.building43.com/videos...
- Rob La Gesse
oh cool - Gnip has some very cool tech behind the scenes - i'll have to queue that video
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Ken - now that identi.ca/status.net has plugins - nothing prevents someone from wiring up a PHSB hook to the internal message queue for identi.ca/status.net
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
bear: You know if anybody's pushing activitystrea.ms out of a Laconica instance yet?
- Ken Sheppardson
I imagine that hooking up the twitter firehose to PSHB would be really easy and cheap, but it would likely violate the twitter firehose license.
- Matt M (inactive)
kevin - yea, one of the most fun projects I did was to hook a sms/xmpp bot to a phone switch - it allowed you to control your vm/phone from xmpp and gave a lot of benefit
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
EVERYTHING cool violates the Twitter firehose rules :)
- Rob La Gesse
ken - there is some private branch work being done on that - but they are working on getting 0.9 out the door first
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@bear great - we should get you hooked up to the Ribbit APIs for telephony stuff and Seesmic
- Kevin Marks
Rob: FriendFeed figured out a way around the stupid Twitter rules.
- Robert Scoble
I think just knowing that Twitter offers a firehose violates it's terms of use.
- Ken Sheppardson
@kevin i would love to review them and make a pitch to the team about them
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert - FF didn't try to share the firehose.
- Rob La Gesse
$50M for FF engineering and architecture team?
- Ankush Narula
@bear great, email me kevinmarks@gmail.com
- Kevin Marks
..and FF was able to position themselves as a Twitter client, in a sense, by pushing traffic to Twitter. They weren't just extracting value from the system. Plus, they probably asked nicely and sent cupcakes.
- Ken Sheppardson
Rob: sure it did, but it only shares it for people who have logged into FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Rob: Twitter's rules are "don't create a shadow Twitter." As long as you don't try to do that they probably will let you play.
- Robert Scoble
Rob: of course every geek in the world wants to create a shadow Twitter. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Rob - once they produced the v2 api - then they started sharing the full stream. Until that point it was a partial stream
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert - my point is - at the same time Twitter couldn't support more use of the firehose, they demanded the firehose NOT be re-broadcast. They don;t allow one to become a "node" of the stream. Which seems silly.
- Rob La Gesse
That's not entirely correct, Robert. Their other rule is "don't try to monetize something firehose based that we may at some point in the indefinite future think about monetizing ourselves"
- Ken Sheppardson
On PubSubHubbub and rssCloud ... (http://brad.livejournal.com/2405147...)
- David Recordon
Ken: we're saying the same thing. :-)
- Robert Scoble
decentralization!!!
- Ankush Narula
Rob: FriendFeed rebroadcasts the Twitter firehose, but only for the people who have signed onto FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: Ah... right... "shadow Twitter". Gotcha :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert/Ken - I can understand why Twitter doesn't want downstream nodes passing on the stream - they lose access control
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert - they are not. They are broadcasting back a VERY small portion of that stream, at best.
- Rob La Gesse
I think technically rebroadcasting is illegal according to the Twitter developer terms for the firehose
- Jesse Stay
Mike me too! Rob: it is a small portion because only a few hundred thousand people have signed onto FriendFeed, but if you could get everyone on Twitter to sign up here you'd see the entire firehose.
- Robert Scoble
In so far as fire-walled end-user applications can't receive pings, PSHB protocol mainly helps publishers and server-side aggregators like Google reader. Since this "last mile problem" is out-of-scope for PSHB, we can't yet expect any client explosion the likes that Twitter has seen. Any thoughts from the panel on the last mile problem? What would have to be done so that Tweetie, Seesmic, etc, might benefit from PSHB?
- Mason Lee
Robert - I disagree. I think if that happened the hose would be shut off.
- Rob La Gesse
The protocol comparison document is at: http://code.google.com/p...
- Bob Wyman
Well, I don't think it's just rebroadcasting... there's also an issue around derivative/aggregations based on the firehose, firehose-based analytics, etc
- Ken Sheppardson
Why isn't Twitter ever a part of these conversations? I'd love to hear their viewpoint. You should get Ryan Sarver on one of these episodes.
- Jesse Stay
I believe they have an open invite :)
- Rob La Gesse
real time chat across different media and internet access levels - you pick what size/speed your want your conversation to happen at
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
The last time I saw Twitter participate in this sort of conversation was at BearHugCamp last fall.... and I suspect that left a bad taste in their mouth :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm curious if anyone invited them
- Jesse Stay
But you can't do global Track across a federated system
- Ken Sheppardson
But Kevin, what about tracking the firehose?
- Cliff Gerrish
*somebody* needs to aggregate everything if you want to search across everything
- Ken Sheppardson
*drink* someone mentioned Track
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@Mason If PSHB handles the backbone problem of providing fan-in and then fan-out for millions of feeds, it makes it massively easier for people to focus on building innovative front ends. There isn't much opportunity for creativity in solving the backend problem -- that's why it is reasonable to build something like PSHB today. The really fun problems are the things that should be relying on PSHB as a source of feeds. Let PSHB do the boring backend problem -- you should focus on innovative clients.
- Bob Wyman
drink
- Rob La Gesse
or you need to delegate/distribute searches out to the hubs
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: that's a good point.
- Robert Scoble
I need a drink!
- Robert Scoble
Robert - grab some formula!
- Rob La Gesse
But, "follow" isn't enough. We also need TRACK!
- Bob Wyman
Or that other kind of milk.
- Amyloo
There are certainly benefits to distribution and redundancy, but there *are* benefits to centralization.
- Ken Sheppardson
Kevin has the key point, getting what you want... Discovery of what you want would be next... these hubs will be learning patterns of what is wanted.
- Ben Hedrington
Or will it be too decentralized?
- Ben Hedrington
Discovery on a federated/partitioned system is problematic.
- Ken Sheppardson
but PSHB isn't for track, as you have said eloquently on the mailing list, Bob
- Kevin Marks
live filtering?
- Ankush Narula
So discovery is the next frontier?
- Ben Hedrington
track remains a problem even with PSHB *but* using PSHB allows you to do a track across more than just one source
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert: chat room other than here?
- David Stratton
discovery happens the same way you discover new blogs IMO
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@Kevin: But, if I've got PSHB aggregating the feeds, it makes it really, really easy for me to build a server that *does* do track on the stuff that PSHB feeds to me.
- Bob Wyman
Discovery has always been the new frontier
- Francine Hardaway
David: this is the chat room.
- Robert Scoble
Hubbub allows some central search provider subscribe to everything, then people can subscribe to the search provider... but there just has to be some way to discover/broadcast which feeds are out there... this is an issue with SUP, btw... discovery. You have to know a feed's SUP ID first.
- Ken Sheppardson
okay, thought so
- David Stratton
I guess I wasn't being 2010 enough. This is the chat feed. :-)
- Robert Scoble
So you mean if you want to do research or market research you will pay
- Francine Hardaway
@bobwyman sure, but that isn't the usecase Robert says he wants; he needs a mass crawl for that
- Kevin Marks
Francine: and restaurants will pay $10 a month to have their own Twitter.
- Robert Scoble
I remember the Microsoft guy at BearHugCamp last fall was wondering why anybody would ever want to build a Track system, rather than just leave it to Google...
- Ken Sheppardson
I'm a set of keywords, I'm looking for a set of keywords
- Arnie Klaus
Of course, Twitter will probably offer http://www.sushirestaurant.com/twitter at some point too.
- Robert Scoble
Live regexp for big pipes sounds like a $1Billion dollar business.
- Cliff Gerrish
@kevin, I dont' see the distinction. I can do track based on all that flows through the PSHB hubs. That's semantically equivelant to doing a "mass crawl"
- Bob Wyman
we've been doing this stuff with MOM in financial market feeds - topic subscriptions, channels, etc.
- Ankush Narula
And what will they really do with it? That they don't do now
- Francine Hardaway
You can have one aggregator that controls the entire feed, or you can set the feed loose and let several companies aggregate from those. Same data, no single point of control.
- Rob La Gesse
Francine: I can see a lot you would do if you had your own branded Twitter clone.
- Robert Scoble
Every Hubbub hub could/should provide a local firehose to anyone who wants it.
- Ken Sheppardson
distributed track is possible. Centralization only makes it easier.
- Bob Wyman
Complex events processing...
- Cliff Gerrish
@bobwyman only if all the hubs do collation for you, surely? Content-based filtering inot feeds on the hubs too
- Kevin Marks
Bob: and even centralization isn't THAT easy. Twitter only shows you the last few days on http://search.twitter.com
- Robert Scoble
How similar to JustSignal?
- Francine Hardaway
This is similar to tracking multiple market centers (pools of liquidity) to get the right trade.
- Cliff Gerrish
John Kalucki, a SQLstream co-founder, has been at Twitter for about 18 month now working on... wait for it... their firehose API.
- Ken Sheppardson
Cliff: Now I understand
- Francine Hardaway
the fun happens when PSHB allows for disparate streams to have firehoses - then all the search/filter geeks can do their thing
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@Scoble: "history" is irrelevant to any system doing a real-time track. All you care about is the future -- not the past. Past is for "retrospective search," "track" is about "prospective search".
- Bob Wyman
The future: filter, search, discover, curate
- Francine Hardaway
So Twitter is trying to become FriendFeed?
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Sure we do. It's called TwitterSpy. Dustin Sallings built it two years ago
- Ken Sheppardson
others have built the same thing...
- Ken Sheppardson
Mike - so is Facebook :)
- Rob La Gesse
Bob: I want both.
- Robert Scoble
@bobwyman disagree - you need both flow and past; they complement one another
- Kevin Marks
bear: I think if you look at some of the newer Twitter web clients, they're basically a FriendFeed-like UI on top of the Twitter message bus.
- Ken Sheppardson
twitter retweet is going to make a lot of folks angry - not that I have any inside info or anything
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
bear: hah!
- Robert Scoble
@Scoble: Of course you want both. I would never question that. The two halves of search compliment each other. Only retrospective or only prospective is only half the solution. Most of the systems you've ever used have only solved half the problem .
- Bob Wyman
bear: Justine Bateman's already mad about it. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Bob: agreed. FriendFeed came close to solving both.
- Robert Scoble
London here :)
- Bastian
New York here...
- Bob Wyman
hawaii here
- Arnie Klaus
Texas
- Rob La Gesse
Philadelphia
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
NYC
- Ankush Narula
Just got a 503 on Twitter... we breaking it real time?
- Ben Hedrington
Washington State
- Steve Hammer
San Francisco (not Silcon Valley ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
canberra, Aust
- Hilary Talbot
Dana Point, CA here
- michael sean wright
nice thing we started here
- Bastian
Wow - what a nice distribution!
- Rob La Gesse
Ben - no - Twitter's auth API is having trouble right now - my monitoring alerts are going berserk about it
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Minneapolis, MN
- Ben Hedrington
RSS!!
- michael sean wright
Arizona
- Francine Hardaway
awww...RSS :-)
- Jodi Church
RSS, welcome to the world.
- Bob Wyman
RSS lives!
- Mason Lee
Don;t know how Scoble had a cute baby :) I mean, Maryam is cute, but Robert? Hee
- Rob La Gesse
LOL @RSS...
- Karoli
That gives new meaning to RSS stream.
- Steve Hammer
when he farts - do you call it an rssCloud? ;-)
- Ankush Narula
welcome to the intertubes RSS!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@ankush LOL!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Rocky looks so cute petting him
- Francine Hardaway
Ankush, FTW!
- Karoli
Careful - Rocky looks hungry!
- Rob La Gesse
loved the mp3 of the sounds of RSS greeting the world
- michael sean wright
Your saving it all for his great, great grandkids!
- Arnie Klaus
I need to run! :)
- David Recordon
Thanks man ttyl
- Brett Slatkin
lots of spamming yesterday
- Karoli
it was a classic phishing scam
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Good to hear about http://superfeedr.com!
- Julien
2 different things
- Karoli
If you were using SocialToo you wouldn't have gotten those messages :-)
- Jesse Stay
they're able to insert messages into your stream when you don't follow via the Twitter API
- Karoli
PSHB is not really decentralized from the client's perspective-- there will be one front end: google.
- Mason Lee
Diversity is important in *any* ecosystem...
- Bob Wyman
It's funny that I'm getting a fail whale on the Gillmor Gang.
- Robert Scoble
it's the same with your computer network - all the same server means you are pwned by a single attack
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Steve Gillmor needs his Twitter anti-virus (SocialToo) :-)
- Jesse Stay
DNS
- Eric Florenzano
Gmail
- Ken Sheppardson
Commonality in protocols -- diversity in servers.
- Bob Wyman
oh, wait...
- Ken Sheppardson
Twitter is down hard now.
- Robert Scoble
Ok, really need to go now! Thanks and talk to everyone later.
- David Recordon
I'm gettting 503 server error.
- Robert Scoble
everyone gets nervous when we add a layer on top of the web stack...
- Ankush Narula
yea, i'm getting hard errors from Twitter in my server alerts
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Ahh, it's back.
- Robert Scoble
One day Twitter just won't come back.
- Ken Sheppardson
i was, but it's working again for me
- Jodi Church
Yeah - API's having issues too
- Jesse Stay
Still 503 here
- Ken Sheppardson
@ken - then, we will all sleep.
- Rob La Gesse
Ken: Not after it has raise $100m
- Francine Hardaway
Its google wave getting ready to go live.
- Arnie Klaus
it's both
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Annie: Hah!
- Ben Hedrington
The problem comes in ownership of the resource. In the decentralized web, we share the pipes in neutral fashion. But, "commercial" people tend to violate net neutrality rules. Like Twitter deciding who can and cannot read their data. That is a net neutrality failure...
- Bob Wyman
Only portrayed that way by the FSF/GPL extremists
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Love the sound of Skype in the morning
- Bastian
@bear: We should profit by competing on the service we provide users -- not on how much of user's data we have captured.
- Bob Wyman
Bob: and what about Facebook's front door being completely locked?
- Ankush Narula
@bob agree 100%
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Is he saying Dave Winer's naive? :-)
- Jesse Stay
Bob: agree. Jesse: I think so.
- Robert Scoble
He's saying light pinging won't work.
- Cliff Gerrish
*smack*
- Rob La Gesse
@Ankush I'm seriously hoping that the new hires at Facebook help steer them away from the dark side :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
So to argue in Twitter and Facebook's defense, they're not just a neutral pass through. They're adding value to the system, and they'd argue that they shouldn't be "forced" to just let that walk out the back door.
- Ken Sheppardson
I'd like to see Dave Winer's response to that
- Jesse Stay
@ankush , Folk don't always agree with me. But, I believe that users should control access to their data and they should make decisions based on what is in their interest -- the people who run the services that people use should *not* be the ones deciding what access controls will be enforced.
- Bob Wyman
so do you see there being an APi to Google's crawl for use in this, Bob?
- Kevin Marks
Because of stampeding herds?
- Mason Lee
I'm a big +1 on the fat ping
- Eric Florenzano
Jesse: I'm sure you will (see the response)
- Ken Sheppardson
Mike: if Facebook doesn't get its public service act together they will see themselves becoming the next MySpace. In the early adopter audience it already is.
- Robert Scoble
Bob/Mike - i'm in full agreement - but when you're building a service that has zero monetization (twitter) - what else can your valuation be based on other than your core data assets?
- Ankush Narula
I think Facebook is getting it together. Connect is their answer, but they're also slowly opening up search as well.
- Jesse Stay
Of course they have FriendFeed now to keep the early adopters inside the Facebook tent, but there's a lot more early adopters on Twitter than here.
- Robert Scoble
@robert agree completely - I had already zero'd out my profile and moved to FF - but the FF folks moving to FB made me give them more time
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Bob/Mike - as for FB - I hope so too
- Ankush Narula
Of course, you are better off doing it on Rackspace :)
- Rob La Gesse
Jesse: I agree with you.
- Robert Scoble
Don't build services that have no legitimate path to profit. In that case, you should be building protocols whose costs can be shared by the community and then build your business by creating the best tools for using the protocol.
- Bob Wyman
popping in to listen to RL Gilmor Gang stream #gillmorgang
- Del_
Bob - Sounds ideal - but knowing the history of Twitter - I suspect they were much more concerned about uptime rather than the public good
- Ankush Narula
robert and rob: speaking of using Rackspace, Cartus put my contract on hold while they figure out their needs
- David Stratton
"Has *2* Bs"?? Doesn't it have, like 12?
- Ken Sheppardson
pub sub hub bub (five bs)
- Robert Scoble
activitystrea.ms is yet another endpoint that can be connected to PSHB
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
@Ankush I don't know who was thinking what. But, I do know that those who focus on "public good" typically write protocols, not walled garden closed sites.
- Bob Wyman
Sidewiki is so not a wiki
- Ken Sheppardson
I think it's actually "pub/sub hubbub" - I'm usually wrong though
- Jesse Stay
I want Sidewiki to have Wave support
- Jesse Stay
Bob - fair enough :-)
- Ankush Narula
Locking a new "feature" into relying on me installing a toolbar is a GREAT way to make sure I don;t play with it.
- Rob La Gesse
ooh - I hear tension in the realms of Google :-)
- Jesse Stay
you would have to gather a set of wave changesets and then push that out via PSHB
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Rob: I'm sure they'll support it in Chrome too, eventually
- Ken Sheppardson
It's PSHB vs. Wave - who will win? :-)
- Jesse Stay
you guys are nuts :-)
- Loic Le Meur
Wave *IS* XMPP
- Ken Sheppardson
Loic is in the building :)
- Rob La Gesse
Loic it's Celine Dion isn't it? :-) (how's it going?)
- Jesse Stay
nope
- Loic Le Meur
Where's my Wave invitation?
- Francine Hardaway
The Wave protocol is just an extension of XMPP
- Ken Sheppardson
good try though
- Loic Le Meur
PSHB and Wave don't compete. They do different things. Othogonal. PSHB does *nothing* in the last-mile user interface space.
- Bob Wyman
Loic: thanks for filling infor me.
- Robert Scoble
dang - I'm going to figure it out one of these days
- Jesse Stay
Francine: don't worry, I don't have one either.
- Robert Scoble
oh robert, no thank YOU
- Loic Le Meur
XMPP is also nice in that completes the last mile.
- Mason Lee
I had a blast being you for 24 hours
- Loic Le Meur
Seemed like a good conference watching it on my iPhone.
- Robert Scoble
XMPP is great for "last mile" as well as for reasonable number of persistent connections on teh backend.
- Bob Wyman
Great conversation guys!
- Ben Hedrington
I LOVED Tony Robbins, I was expecting to hate him so that was a pleasant surprise, best speaker I have ever seen. Such a stage presence. amazing/
- Loic Le Meur
Great show, everyone
- Rob La Gesse
great show!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Enjoyed listening/watching
- Ankush Narula
Great discussion here. Thanks Brett, et al.
- Mason Lee
That was very good - thanks Steve
- Jesse Stay
thank you
- Hilary Talbot
/me is wondering why everyone thanks everyone
- Loic Le Meur
@Loic It's because we americans are so polite!
- Bob Wyman
Thanks, Loic, I was wondering that myself.
- Mason Lee
Errr... That was a joke.
- Bob Wyman
LOL
- Loic Le Meur
social networking
- Arnie Klaus
don't get me started
- Loic Le Meur
Good show Steve, thank you all for making the time.
- David Stratton
You rang?
- John Kalucki
Hey John! When are you going to be on the Gillmor Gang?
- Jesse Stay
quick - get Steve back on video - Twitter is here!
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
John is in charge of Twitter's Streaming API, FYI
- Jesse Stay
I totally didn't realize John had a FriendFeed account - awesome
- Jesse Stay
I skimmed most of the conversation. I didn't see any explicit questions to respond to, or that haven't been addressed on the twitter-dev list about pubhub...
- John Kalucki
have you looked at PubSubHubbub John?
- Kevin Marks
As far as the Streaming API rules, we'll work on them. The user TOS and API rules just went out last week.
- John Kalucki
John - except that a lot of the folks who were asking don't regularly read the twitter dev list :)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Let me find the link...
- John Kalucki
Heh :-)
- Jesse Stay
I'd just like to be able to standardize my code and not have to re-write for every new social network out there.
- Jesse Stay
But we've had this conversation. :-)
- Jesse Stay
how about activitystrea.ms support, John? You going to write the shim or do we have to?
- Kevin Marks
Activitystrea.ms support seems unlikely. A shim would probably be seen as syndication.
- John Kalucki
Overall, the direction is towards exposing more data types, more predicate types, and supporting more use cases. Format and protocol support, while making developer's lives easier, isn't as high priority as some of the proposed features we're considering.
- John Kalucki
That's too bad John - hard to be the "pulse of the internet" if you're not supporting open standards
- Jesse Stay
Hey JK! Welcome! How goes?
- Ken Sheppardson
Hey Ken. It goes. It goes.
- John Kalucki
Looks like we still have 27 viewers for a test pattern...
- Cliff Gerrish
I missed this shooooooot! need regular calendared events so i can add you guys to my schedule! :)
- Susan Beebe
@hadaly still dont know where I stand with regard to FB acquires FF; a) #Posterous (http://blog.posterous.com/send-to...) b) 250 million users cant be wrong?
250 million users probably can be wrong. I was simply commenting on your facebook absence.
- Clare
I feel that joining Facebook is probably inevitable. I don't know many people who aren't on fb at this point. Not much benefit in being a social network recluse, however fb looks like a very cluttered product . I think Posterous is the way forward, had great fun with that service recently.
- Maciej Matyjas
from Android
Facebook is cluttered, i do however think that there is great value in it. I have lot's a good conversations there recently and more and more people move over. I would also say that using Posterous is great and the way to go.
- Bastian
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- MoTO #TeamMonique
here
- Mel Buckpitt
""
- Richard Brock
yo.
- Zee.
Present
- Clifford Kennedy
Addicted... checkin' in
- Rob Schieber
addiction check
- Edgar Rodríguez
I checked in before you even posted this.
- Akiva
here.
- Luca Sofri
'sup
- Nolan Alston
shuffles quietly at the back
- Ivor Whitten
Present...
- George Hall (Australia)
here
- Kimberle Kelly
I'm not an addict. I can quit any time I want.
- Ha3rvey #teamMonique
jawohl.
- Spidra Webster
I am here. How about you?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Check Check
- Robert Burgin
check
- Amani
yo
- Bill McFarland
I'm here!
- Bonnie Foster
HeRe!
- Bruno Mertins
Hooah!
- Kevin Fox
Till they kick me out.
- Tony Miller
here but i can stop anytime
- phil baumann
In!
- Pon
Here!
- Oracio
here
- tevfik bülent öngün
I'm not, uh, like an addict, or anything. I can quit anytime. yeah
- jeff hammond
w00t!
- Shane
hi:P
- K.D.
here
- Panayotis Vryonis
I don't have time for this...I'm too busy liking stuff
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
Yo
- Bret Taylor
Yep count me in!!
- Guillaume Foutry
Present and accounted for.
- Colette
Here
- TonyatMATC
Present
- Mike Doeff
It is amazing to see how fast these discussions fill up.
- Damond Nollan
Present
- Olympia Scott
Howdy.
- Daniel Morgan
Present.
- Alonis
Sir Yes SIr!
- Robert Kenney
Word
- Matthew Horton
not an addict, but check in often
- Göze Sencer
I'm only addicted to the email service
- joebrooks
As always :)
- Paul Buchheit
wassup
- Alejandro
here
- Ken Kennedy
Yup, that would be me =)
- FFing Enigma
here
- Matt Ruiz
Here Here!
- Benjamin Golub
was going to be, but not anymore
- Lo
here
- ebru
Here!!! :P
- Chris Zlatis
Snorting a line of FF as I type this.
- Lola Bean (Penguin)
from fftogo
++
- jacek
Phew, still here ...
- Tom Horn
I'm not here LOL
- Rob aka Cerberus
Here I be -/
- Chris Loft
I'm Free
- kenneth glenn
Damn: a lot of addicts here still!
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Well, I *was* an addict until yesterday.
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
alive and well.
- Tyler Molamphy
present
- Jeff Weber
yes we R
- Johni Fisher
Hey, I can stop whenever I want. No, really.
- Tom Landini
I'll leave kicking and screaming.
- Andrew Smith
---...---
- constantinos alexacos
Where else are we going to go?
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
Yep, here
- LANjackal
Check
- Jesper Lind
So addicted I said I was addicted twice. < g >
- Rob Schieber
Hello everyone.
- Ryan - @magicofpi
Here.
- tehKenny
always here!
- Marco Ramirez
Hip hip...
- Gary Gannon
Still here!
- Lee Watters
Still around :)
- Sean Powell
Always here!
- Louis Gray
staying put until they kick us out.
- michael sean wright
still not here :D
- Rob aka Cerberus
Yo!
- Libraryman
*cough cough*
- John Robert Ladd
Here.
- Jonathan Hardesty
from Android
I am here. Isn't it now FACEFEED?
- Francine Hardaway
Here!
- onurc
I love that Bret, Paul, and Kevin checked in. They probably are looking at their screens and asking "what do we do now?" how about ship some new features before Facebook overlords take you off to do bigger things?
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I feel sorry for all you addicts. My use of it is purely social.
- Bruce Lewis
Not an addict but I like it.
- Joao Alves
I got the papers in my glove box....you ready to make a beer run?
- Morgan
Is Friendfeed a safe place to bring new friends?
- Christian Burns
from iPhone
I'm here - and staying here until Paul and Bret kick me out the </door>
- AJ Kohn
yup. Guess I am.
- Mark Interrante
+1 happy user... till now
- giuseppe c. | markgreene
What am I doing? I don't even know.
- Suzanne
Here!!!
- Felipe Aneudi Campana
from iPhone
That hitler thing was amazing. That is all.
- James Watters
present.
- Trish Haley
Yo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Stephen Pickering
What of it.
- Rochelle
"So, Who are you?" "very cool, very cool"
- Stephen Pickering
what?
- Nine Ferdinand
Just my luck. I got to this party about a month ago and NOW they decide to sell.
- Ian Paul
FF4EVR. :D
- David Vasileff
02:10 am and still here :-)
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
Yo ¡Aquí!
- David Austria
present
- Albert Maruggi
Yo!
- Mathew Barnes
presente
- Eric Gagne
Not sure I'm an addict yet but I'm here and working on it.
- Paul Goldsmith
Checking in!
- Marci Golub
Checking in
- Richard Gallo
Here
- Darrell Madore
Present!
- MsJosay
Here and ready for duty sir!
- David Damore
I survived the night.
- Frankie Warren
yes
- Matthew Schrock
Present
- Joshua Kahn
I do like FF and use it almost every day. Wouldn't it be great if FB either left it alone so we can continue to use it as "professionals," or somehow incorporate it into a more "mature" version of FB that didn't have all the annoying, time-wasting apps, games, etc. I'd much prefer a totally customizable FF "wall."
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I think FFundercats HO!!!!! would have worked but I'm here anyways.
- Gimminy
yo
- Rahul Krishnakumar
here!
- Greg Louderman
are there fake friendfeed addicts?
- acedanger
Oh I'm still here :)
- Owen Greaves
here
- John Kitchen
:)
- Lindsay Davies
Hello?
- Vaughn
you betcha
- Rick Bucich
holy crap, looks like master and commander ;-)
- Aad 't Hart
Not an addict but still here.
- Brandon
hello from a german FRIENDFEED addicted :-)
- Simon Zeimke
On in real time
- Mike Lizun
Money rules! Money rules! Money rules! The world doesn't change!
- ¡amFrancesco!
O HAI
- Ambar Pansari
from iPhone
Not an addict, but defiantly a user. Wish there was a desktop client though. Or TweetDeck integrated it.
- Michael
Present!
- Denverken
Aye, Mon.
- Gordon Swaby
PRESENT
- Kamilah Reed (K. Gill)
Check
- Jason Heppler
It's nice seeing new comments drop down, sexy as fuck, bye friendfeed *snifs*
- Gordon Swaby
president
- Dennis O'Neil
Aloha
- Nathan
Where else would I be? Facebook? Pfft ...
- Kevin Mohr
Bueller, Bueller, ........ Bueller
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
Sorry I was late.. I have a note from my parole officer.
- Mike Shulman
I CAN QUIT ANYTIME!!!
- Jim #TeamMonique
here
- Rahul Gupta
just getting started
- Patrice Vizzone
Aye!
- Joshua
hello there
- Murilo Terrabuio
Here, I am
- Luca Ciccarelli
Sorry I'm late. I was on Facebook. It works on a cellphone.
- Paul Puri
here
- Gary Prechtel
I'm not here often, but when I am... it's a happy place indeed... I hope they don't take away my fix!
- Robyn Miller
Hey Robert - got a separate thread for people who have a healthy, positive relationship with FriendFeed?
- Edward Coffey
Check
- tristan
it's gonna take 11 years for FaceBook to catch up to where FF is now....isn't that how tech "progress" works?
- Marg Uerite
Ahoy
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
aye
- chaz2b
Polo!
- m9m, Crone of FriendFeed
Ere I am in Aust standing up with my right hand raised yelling out HERE!
- Bob Heath
Count me in.
- Sebastian
Present
- Charlie Anzman
Knock on wood!
- ↂGiorgiँ Zarrelliↂ
O Hai!
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Check
- Erik Boles
from iPhone
What's the qualifier for addict? If you believe the MacLean researcher, addiction is a choice!
- Sally - Skyrimmin' It
I MEAN IT!!! ANYTIME!!!
- Jim #TeamMonique
O Captain, My Captain ;)
- Stuart Miniman
hey!
- Imran Jafri
yes
- Steve Mott
I'm here. Now what?
- Christian Collins
Count me in too please!
- RobinDotNet
from iPhone
not addicted but perhaps in a state of advanced 'like'
- Threepwood
Yep Yep
- Rahsheen?
Yeah. Going to miss this if it morphs into something else for real.
- Robert Anderson
I need my FriendFeed!
- Brandon Titus
I really Need Friendfeed!
- TheHenry
Ya, that's me.
- Sweyn Venderbush
Yo.
- Absentee
HOOAH. or something
- mjc
Here. At the Rack proctoring an exam.
- Stuart Rath
here
- Bluesun 2600
Everybody sing: "They tried to make me go to rehab I said no, no, no "
- Laurent
•_•*b
- videopixil
from Nambu
check
- Jaica Kinsman
from iPhone
Here!
- Michael Hocter
Aye!
- ωαřмaiden ❤Marrit Woman❤
yo!
- Ronald S
hola!
- Oguz Serdar
Aren't we all here? I guess that's the point why we adopted Friendfeed, while others just "heard about it", isn't it?
- Wolfgang G. Wettach
and many of us in Europe are sleeping.
- Luca Sofri
Some of us in the USA are just busy, too.
- Duncan Blake
Man, this check-in line is pretty darn long... must be Southwest. heh
- Daynah
<raises hand>
- Jack&Cleo
please excuse me while I pretend to be one of your guys
- Kirk
i am
- Brian Hendrickson
I'm not addicted, I'm just a social FriendFeeder.
- Joe "Funkasaurus" Pierce
here i am
- vitzbank (aka claudio)
check 1,2
- Wayne Sutton
Here.
- scherbi: bottom dweller
Here
- Bora Zivkovic
.-.. --- --. --- ..- -
- constantinos alexacos
YOYOYO!
- Mathew™ aka Youngblood
Eccomi, presente!
- Alessandro
checking in from Tejas
- George Dearing
from BuddyFeed
Finally turned the corner.
- Liza + = ?
trying to figure out how to use it...
- Ted Kinzer
There sure are a lot of people in here. It's a good thing Robert got the big room with extra chairs.
- RobinDotNet
from iPhone
Here!
- Zulema ❧ spicy cocoa tart
from BuddyFeed
Reporting! (My next blog entry will be called "Social Media Is My Crack".)
- Dennis Jernberg
present.
- Jim Halligan @jim
:(
- Angus Burton
late but here
- Heather Solos
Yo.
- Steve Lowe
all present and accounted for sir !
- John Wallace
from BuddyFeed
Nah, I'm too busy posting #badjokememe stuff.
- Ordinarybug Heather
I am in.
- Gabe Taviano
from iPhone
Depends.
- Nick Humphries
I'm working hard to get an addiction.
- Minu Nianda
never left
- Josh Haley
Robert, Now that you have us all here (or some of us), what are you going to do with us?
- RobinDotNet
Here I am... sad but I am!
- ¡amFrancesco!
Yes?
- Fajar Nurdiansyah
here
- Holly is Happy
from iPod
I'm here, but is this FF or FB?
- Dana Fosburgh
Guilty as charged. Use FF more than any other social network, including Twitter.
- Larry Hawes
I can stop anytime I want...
- mikepk
I can stop mikepk anytime I want...
- Akiva
here
- mike "glemak" dunn
holy cow that is a serious list...oh yeah here and dear!!!
- Braden Douglass
I tried to get addicted but none of my friends could afford it. Now I just have bad dreams about Scoble.
- Mr Saturday Morning NFG
Merhaba!
- @barisunver #beyn.org
Yep.
- joey
Here...and cloaked with sadness...
- Anthony K. Valley ©
True. What will happen to FF now?
- @barisunver #beyn.org
Alright
- Rodfather
:P
- Phillip Stewart
Roger that
- Rob Fahrni
(from Streamy)
- Marcos
yo
- Gus
cello!
- Hieronymous Boosh
reporting in.
- Randy Shapiro
ola.
- anna sauce
hello my name is Kim and I'm a Friendfeedaholic
- Kim Landwehr
from BuddyFeed
1st Step
- Thomas Page
True FriendFeed addicts don't need to report in. :P
- iTad
yep
- Marty
true friendfeed addicts are there.. always ;)
- alphaxion
Tad: and yet you did!
- Hieronymous Boosh
Still following Robert the Wise.
- Phil Boiarski
that's a *boolean true*
- Peter Renshaw
check
- Tim Ake
I'm here. FriendFeed will have to leave me, before I leave it.
- Tyson Key
ayo...
- Lipanantsi
Fashionably late ...BOOYA!
- Rich Weaver
Chris Martin checking in
- Chris Martin
Present
- Craig Eddy
present but in 12 step for addiction
- Criz
yo ho ho!
- Ferdinand Perez
I'm an addicted lurker. Does that count?
- ax0n
Solid Copy
- Drew Lucas
from iPhone
here. anecdote: a friend of mine just signed up for FF this evening. apparently the FriendFeed hype of the last 24 hours pushed him over the top. leaves me wondering whether FF has actually gained users today?it would be a crafty way of marketing the service. I'll wake up tomorrow to discover that there was a problem with the paperwork and the FriendFeed team have had a change of heart.
- JSLeFanu
from BuddyFeed
late, but present
- George Deane
Present and accounted for
- John Pfaff
hello hello
- shaun mclane
yo yo yo. ladi-dadi.
- berchman
i have been locked out of twitter since first attack on friday so just got into friendfeed and loooove it!
- Alannah Ryane
We are truly the coolest bunch on the internet.
- Vezquex
·[▪_▪]·
- Desirade
Whats up?
- AJ Batac
Present and accounted for! :-D
- Amy Flynn
Hello, my name is Pete, and I am a FriendFeed addict. Will there be cookies and coffee at this 12-step meeting?
- Pete D
Here stopped over on my way to Brightkite.
- John Ferron
I'm a Facebook junkie
- Molly Song ;)
Hi.
- Trent Olson
I'm not as active on FF as I used to be but I'm back.
- Bob Gannon
from iPhone
more than 2 days ago
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Little late but yes, I am still here. So to speak.
- Martha
I'm new but i like it...
- Jose Antonio Trujillo
Count me in even though I was just starting to get hooked. I guess it's time to find a rehab and get all sobered up until the next relapse with some other new addiction. Isn't life grand?
- Usman Bashir
addict..
- Peter
Define addict.
- Carl Black
Here too, lol
- Ange Recchia/angesbiz
ANYTIME!!!!
- Jim #TeamMonique
addict: currently 02:53 and I've failed to even start this weeks script because I've been messing about on friendfeed ;)
- alphaxion
03:01 in the morning in the UK and I am here!
- travispuk
Since we are logging time its 5:05 AM in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia and I am here too. :)
- Usman Bashir
Travis get some sleep!
- Arleen Boyd
Aloha!
- Peter Liu
guten tag!
- imabonehead
hmmm.
- Carlos Ayala
define addict :-)
- Duane @PreppyDude Myers
Gonna miss you honey. This is Facebook for adults
- Alan Morris
Is it just me or is the FF interface just plain usable? Clean! Uncluttered! Simple!.
- Alan Morris
Check is in the mail.
- Louis Trapani
from iPhone
Wow Peter, Are we all that crazy for friend feed and twitter?
- Marilyn Jansen Lopes
Aloha! Mahalo Robert... now WHAT IS the plan???
- Arleen Boyd
Hello there. this is today's last....go to bed now.
- Carloe Stamp
present
- Alex Scrivener
Allo
- Jan Ole Peek
^_^
- HealingBrush
I could be an addict if there was an app for my phone like one for the winmo!
- Andy Ghozali
Presente
- patrick
Checking In....
- Chris Jackson
Not quite addicted yet here.
- Mike Pennell
Where's Holden? Maybe celebrating his birthday early.
- Myrna
Yes SIR!!
- Mark Guadalupe
Present!
- Adam Turetzky
Reporting for duty SIR!
- Jack Humphrey
Yes
- Christopher Galtenberg
from iPhone
Checking in.
- John (bird whisperer)
¡Presente!
- Luis D. Santos
On it constantly!
- Tobin Truog
West Coast evening shift reporting for duty.
- Kryptic
Connected across all social media.Who needs open social?
- Lori Laurent Smith
Here!
- David Cook
hola.
- Sean Oliver
talk about a name and shame list...
- Nathan Vingoe
Yo!
- JR
Count me as an addict.
- Joey Gibson
check
- Kate
Always here!
- Michael Cuff
need more, need more friendfeed than any one has needed before
- Robert Higgins
Present.
- Lucas
I am present and accounted for...well present anyway
- Keith Murray
Here!
- Barry Owens
You rang?
- JA Castillo
I'm not sure is "being addicted to lurking on FF" counts, but I'm chiming in.
- Christian (Simply X)
I JUST joined and am trying to figure it out.
- Janine Nickel
Oui
- J.D. Deutschendorf
I quit everytime I go to bed
- Jeff (Team マクダジ )
from iPhone
check. It rocks
- Richard
I'm checking in from 37k feet on a Delta flight with GoGo Internet. If that's not addict I don't know what is. :D
- Jay Cuthrell
Jay, you win ;)
- Jesper Lind
oh hey, look, the added an "add comment" link to the end of the comment list. Huzzah!
- Brett Kelly
from iPhone
++Jay. I was going to do the same thing yesterday but I didn't want to pay the money.
- David Cook
David -- this was a $9.95 session but you can get them for $7.95 and there are also 25% off coupons if you do online check-in prior to your Delta flight. That's an incentive for folks to use that service and offload kiosk use at the terminals. Very savvy marketing by the folks at GoGo and Delta combined.
- Jay Cuthrell
Yo Scobey! I like Dave Winer's thoughts on user owned tech companies ... been thinking similar things.
- Jason Cronkhite
check.
- Justin Korn
here
- SteVe C
Ozgur reporting
- Özgür D. Cyric
from iPhone
in
- sirishkumar
Present
- Herb Hernandez
Yo!
- Aaron Draczynski
Me too
- Peter Hollard
Junkie
- Genaro Bardy
from iPhone
Seems like there's not much point being a FF addict, now. Bummer.
- Kathy Fitch
Checking in!
- Glenn Slaven
whatup! :)
- simran
Here as always.
- Jeff Smith
Here.
- Parth Awasthi
Do you even have to ask?
- Johnny
Aquí!
- Miguel
moi.
- amygeek
nano nano
- Eran Even-Kesef
ok, I'll play
- chrisofspades
:)
- Susan Beebe
from iPhone
I like this list of people, good crowd
- Jack DeWitt Smith
Yo. (And what is the point of this thread and why are we all saying Yo?)
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
Howdy!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
aye
- WoH: Professor MOTHRA
And if you're a *real* FF addict, comment twice.
- Dennis Jernberg
Arrrr!!
- Adrian
Here!
- Peter du Toit (S.Africa)
from fftogo
late, but check and still here.
- Rocky
No matter how many times "ff!" is met with "??" I still preach.
- Garin Kilpatrick
Another one for the books
- Greg Birch
YO!
- Eric - seven eleven
Hey.
- Kevin (aka ThreadKilla)
well, it's 12:12 a.m. and I'm perusing FF from my iPhone via BuddyFeed before turning in. so yeah, I guess I count. "Here!" (raises hand)
- Don Faulkner
from BuddyFeed
Here
- Paola Bonomo
Here..from Shanghai
- Marc Dong
My name is John, and I am a FFolic.. :-)
- John Serra
Here from Hong Kong!
- Dan Van Hoy
Here
- Musa Yılmaz
Good morning from Finland. I'm here again.
- Tapio Kulmala
Can't stay away.
- Tanath
Checked in ...How can I check out
- Sriks7
Sorry I am late
- Emre Öktem
Becoming more so.
- Travis B. Hartwell
Present
- Technogran
Here here...
- Alemsah Ozturk
from iPhone
Here!
- Jeff P. Henderson
here..
- Chris Myles
Hello I am here!
- Chris Bellinger
Am I too late? I've been out crying at my personal Friendfeed funeral :-(
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Just woke up and saw this thread. Addicted ? I guess so...
- Jacque
from m.ctor.org
✔ I'm not addicted. I can quit any time I want. I just don't want to. ;o)
- RetiredTeacherD
still lovin it
- Mark Sorsa-Leslie
Teacher: Awesome checkmark ;)
- Fajar Nurdiansyah
Yes it does ! :)
- Veda Informatics
Oh I'm late, just spend to much time at Streamy
- Michael Zehrer
:)
- M F
merhaba
- Sinan İŞLER
Here I am, having my first coffee in the morning.
- Federico Bolsoman
wazzzzup
- Andrew Salnikov
Breakfast FFeeding....
- David Peacock
Wof Wof, WOF !
- valerio fiandra
from iPhone
First site I launch
- Patrik Arwengrim
checked in
- Sarper Sılaoğlu
All present and correct!
- Paul M Evans
Présent! (for how long?)
- Zackatoustra
here I am
- GG aka "nessuno"
I send newbies straight to FriendFeed as the base for all of their online activities. I wonder how it will change.
- Sally Albright
I'm here
- Mackley, un biblio-troll
[DEAN HOLMES]
- Dean Holmes
I recommend FF to some of my clients, and there are some companies and nonprofits with presences here—not like Twitter, but I'll be curious how that will be affected when FB takes over more. Most have FB fan pages, groups and/or causes, too.
- Cathryn Hrudicka
Still here.......as always.
- Iain Baker
huh?
- bora "head" basman
Here I am
- l'Ego di Gigi
Because.....?
- Andrew Terry
from iPod
yup
- Thomas Power
Wassup?
- Winston Teo
in
- paniaguai
howdy!
- Nir Ben Yona
I can give it up any time. I swear.
- Matt G
Here!
- Brome
Me definitely one of these. :-)
- Kol Tregaskes
Trying to keep the addiction low.
- Muthu Ramadoss
Buongiorno
- FullSite
Just another one.
- m. elena
Yo.
- Carlton Hackett
What are we checking in for? Just to start a long thread?
- Adam Helweh
in
- MobilAdam
Where's duty free?
- Paul Downing
sorry i'm late :)
- Doruk Bayer
Late, but here I am.
- Filippo Ronco
Not an addict but I'm here anyway :-D
- Graham Lawrence
Reporting for duty.
- Mark H
Here I am! Would you collect 50M$ to "buy-back" FF? :)
- Marco Dal Pozzo [mdp]
Yo
- Franz Binder
I hope I'm not an addict... ;-) Oh, well.
- Hanna Wiszniewska
вписался
- Alex Kapranoff
I'm here
- Nick Bristow
8 hours later? i passed it!
- Avi Joseph
yop!
- zooz
привет чятег! давайте зохватим этот тредик?
- милый мой дружочек
заходит чувак к Scoble, а там чатег
- ложный тунец
Boom
- Simon Wicks
from iPhone
а сколько у них тут каментов?
- милый мой дружочек
смешные
- милый мой дружочек
Свободу попугаям!
- Ⓚⓔⓝⓞⓑⓘ
бггг
- милый мой дружочек
zdrastvitze!
- anna sauce
check!
- Don Digidon
КТО ВСЕ ЭТИ ЛЮДИ???
- Танаев!
Right Here!
- Ümit Orhan
present
- Tamara
слабаки, до нашего чатега им ещё работать и работать
- Танаев!
Да здравствует народ Чятега. Скобл мы следим за тобой™! Let our friendfeed alone!
- ideali
это не тру чатик
- Танаев!
^^ KAKIE VASHI DOKAZATELSTVA?
- I'm a Beta
кстати, все помнят, что у Даши сегодня день рождения?
- милый мой дружочек
The view is better from here
- Anthony
они виноваты сами. пускай теперь терпят.
- ideali
о, зайка пришол!
- милый мой дружочек
здравствуй Зайка. ты кого сегодня сделал счастливым?
- милый мой дружочек
*facepalm*
- Alex Kapranoff
Дашенька, в этом уютном подобии чятега мы поздравляем тебя!
- ideali
Дашенька ушла в салон красоты, но я ей передам обязательно!
- милый мой дружочек
路过：）
- K.D.
нитрогай кетайца, у него там коммунизм, ему тяжело
- милый мой дружочек
then ?
- alperyz
превед кетайцам
- Танаев!
И так чятег, пока Скобл не поговорит с нами представителями СовиетФрендфидика, все мои записи теперь можно читать в этом тредике. Пользуясь случае передаю Парню Бухайту и его команде большой привет, в связи с тем что [He can has sleep naw].
- ideali
превед кетаец! давай сегодня сделаем тебя счастливым!
- милый мой дружочек
а кто такой Скобл?
- Танаев!
кстати да
- милый мой дружочек
Greetings from Australia. Im here :-)
- Aussie_Camper
кто такой Скобл. и вообще, объясните мне плз про звезд американоязычного френдфидика - кто там есть кто?
- милый мой дружочек
кто все эти люди™ ?
- brain
у них там ночь, они спят еще. вот проснуцца - прифигеют
- милый мой дружочек
Triple check
- Geer
их спрашивать бессмысленно - сейчас они спят, а когда проснуцца, комменты уйдут далеко вверх
- милый мой дружочек
хоть тысячу каментов-то мы им сделаем сейчас?
- милый мой дружочек
:)
- Florent Morel
All your base are belong to us
- brain
I am here Jedi master.
- Steve de Mena
про этого Скобла статья в википедии есть. он евангелист. работал в мелкософте и в фаст компани. известный блоггер.
- милый мой дружочек
я уже спрашивал у Зайки, кого он сегодня сделал счастливым, но он молчит
- милый мой дружочек
here
- Ahmet Soyata
точно! поэт, пародист, переводчик. известный блоггер.
- милый мой дружочек
я вчера был в издательстве, с меня сведения об авторе просят. давайте, говорят, напишем, где учился, что генеральный директор. и что известный блоггер.
- милый мой дружочек
Here
- Kevin J Hatton
here I am
- Vedran Rudelj
чо ладно?
- милый мой дружочек
blessed are the sick
- undisclosed recipient
Бесков, не ругайся
- милый мой дружочек
а можно получить профессию известного блоггера? какие экзамены сдавать надо? какую специализацию лучше выбрать - микроблоггинг или аудиоподкастинг?
- милый мой дружочек
*где можно получить профессию*
- милый мой дружочек
а кто сертификат дает, что экзамены принимать можно?
- милый мой дружочек
себе полайкай! (с)
- милый мой дружочек
чо?
- внезапно!
ой чатег
- Толстый эксцентрик
давай Скоблу сертификат выпишем?
- милый мой дружочек
известный блоггер
- милый мой дружочек
в псто призывается Фил, рисовать сертификат для Скобла
- милый мой дружочек
Checked-in
- Özkan Altuner
согласен. экзамен принимает Зайка, сертификат рисует Фил. роли распределены.
- милый мой дружочек
чорт. я опаздываю. убежал. сделайте, пожалуйста, тысячу. я буду иногда появляться.
- милый мой дружочек
привет всем в этом чате
- Музон Хиггса
только до 7 тыщ ему всё равно не дорасти
- Музон Хиггса
привет этому чатегу. в прошлый раз не участвовала, но тут грех не поддержать.
- teinett
ээ, зачем второй чатик сделали?
- чото както ой
показать американцам, где раки зимуют
- Музон Хиггса
кстати, вы в курсе, что сегодня Россия играет с Аргентиной в Москве - отборочный матч на ЧМ-2010? сегодня в метро будет ЖЕЕЕЕЕЕЕСТЬ
- teinett
пока они спят
- nundesign
and here!
- Arnaud Fischer
Here!
- SimoTed
а кто-нибудь хоть раз катался в метро на машине? в рекламе это показывают, а реально? хотя бы слышали что-нибудь про ваших знакомых?
- teinett
Фесйбук, где наши деньги? Мы ёрлиадоптеры, дай нам тоже бабла!
- Музон Хиггса
me too, me too! Facebook baaaad, friendfeed gooood!! :-)
- Chris Pantazis
Скобла, защити наши интересы!
- Музон Хиггса
girls, send your photos here ->
- Музон Хиггса
let's chat!!!!1111111oneoneeleveneleven
- Музон Хиггса
но только чтоп по-русски
- Музон Хиггса
тема
- Музон Хиггса
кстати, IM пропускает 90% сообщений. :( как вы следите за этим чатегом?
- teinett
МОНЕТИЗАЦИЯ
- милый мой дружочек
а работа стоит?
- teinett
Guys, you russians are best!
- Музон Хиггса
уук
- Музон Хиггса
опять русские с балалайками наперевес
- чото както ой
с блаблаблайками
- Музон Хиггса
Ждем на машабле статью "после слияния с фейсбуком в уютный френдфидик ломанулись русские"
- ложный тунец
это напоминает мне одну историю про Сосидко
- Музон Хиггса
это что еще за на?
- Биомасса с биокассой
I'm still here. You won't get trid of me that easily.
- James Myatt
а ты не был на канале #2ch
- Музон Хиггса
привет чятег!
- Sergey Juchkov
here!
- Emanuele Guicciardi
ыч
- Billy
Фил по вашему указанию прибыл. Чо рисуем?
- Ph
привент ивангелистам
- Биомасса с биокассой
И чо они должны делать?
- Ph
тусня Скоблов
- Биомасса с биокассой
Фил, рисуй все подряд :)
- Sergey Juchkov
Вот еще, тредики читать! Я настоящий Friendfeed Addict - я пишу и рисую, а не читаю.
- Ph
русиш фантастиш скоблз
- Биомасса с биокассой
Скобл - это чувак с самым большим на данный момент количеством friends of в Френдфиде.
- ложный тунец
dı rırı dı rırı dı rırı cant touch this :P
- Sinan İŞLER
чятег, превед!
- penguin
Наскоблил себе друзей.
- Ph
Have I accidentally clicked a translation button or something?!?
- Nicola Quinn
массфрендер, масс его
- Биомасса с биокассой
中文用户 飘过 :)
- R093r-
^^^ гыгыгы
- penguin
Дебютирует так сказать
- Биомасса с биокассой
from Russia with Love
- ложный тунец
hello
- Ru Viljoen
интересно в каком словаре можно перевести с русского массфрендер
- Биомасса с биокассой
нет, не сериаладдер, просто популярный чел.
- ложный тунец
да не важно кто что говорит, Скоблись
- Биомасса с биокассой
Один чувак пришол в чятег и говорит я известный блоггер кто тут тру на первый второй рассчитайсь. А ему говорят чувак у тебя сертификат есть что ты известный блоггер? Вот иди Зайке экзамен сдай потом приходи. А Зайка стоит такой с топором и улыбается. Щас думает счастливым его сделаю.
- милый мой дружочек
ты кого скоблом назвал?
- Биомасса с биокассой
Yeah still kickin
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
Holy moly
- ◄ani625Ξ ಠ_ಠ
всем учить русский!
- Биомасса с биокассой
каждый день в зеркале вижу
- Биомасса с биокассой
албанский
- Sergey Juchkov
learn albanian!
- Sergey Juchkov
oh, now it's all water, all water...
- K.D.
время от времени прорываются addicts забавно
- Биомасса с биокассой
зобанить их
- Биомасса с биокассой
@pozorro, на сертификат отдельно опубликуй, как нарисуешь!
- nomoretears
аддикты чятега
- ложный тунец
do you know the longest thread in friendfeed is in Russian?:)) link http://ff.im/2OQex
- K.D.
если забанить - с кем трепаться?
- Sergey Juchkov
Почему каждый использованием Роберт Scoble как зовут?
- Matthew Horton
ololo
- Биомасса с биокассой
Nice Russian Robert, Bulgarian isn't far off, be happy to teach you :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
it's very smal thread in russian
- Sergey Juchkov
Google Translate тебе в помощь
- Биомасса с биокассой
ё
- Sergey Juchkov
here is the link http://ff.im/2OQex
- K.D.
привет и добър ден :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
@dobata hello
- Sergey Juchkov
партизанщина сплошная
- Биомасса с биокассой
Здравей, България! Как ви времето? :)
- nomoretears
линкер, все ещё впереди
- Sergey Juchkov
@grantape да без разницы, nevermind
- Биомасса с биокассой
Он придет и молча забанит всё.
- милый мой дружочек
Вавилонская башня, realy ((=
- brain
I'll still be around as long as this site exists.
- Neurario
Polacy?
- Sergey Juchkov
Češi mají jedno?
- Sergey Juchkov
хрена тебе. это я польский и чешский знаю :)
- Sergey Juchkov
Here, Mostly!
- Kreg Steppe
Хере Мостли
- Биомасса с биокассой
@sergey morning @nomeratears мрачно...чакаме слънцето
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
@Dobromir 早上好！：）
- K.D.
wombata misserious
- undisclosed recipient
ОМГ. На меня подписался китаец, который тут в чятеге разговаривает! Чувак, тебе зачем?
- милый мой дружочек
各位早安
- R093r-
вдруг и ты взаимностью ответишь...
- Биомасса с биокассой
А, он сразу же и отписался. Сириалэддер? Может, у него скрипт?
- милый мой дружочек
да можно из постов чувака повыше
- Биомасса с биокассой
Доктор, у меня скрипт.
- милый мой дружочек
(я ушел на час)
- милый мой дружочек
пей масло
- Биомасса с биокассой
汗，上面的Robert都是假的_ _!!!
- K.D.
vi a ze chempionz
- undisclosed recipient
亲眼目睹的事情，有一年过年，深圳梅林一个邮局，很多人排队寄钱回家，有个民工等着等着睡着了，抓在手上的几张钱撒了一地，保安就过去叫醒了他，让他小心钱，他说没办法，连续加了几个晚上的班，眼睛都睁不开了，保安马上和VIP室的 ...
- Биомасса с биокассой
Митрич, ему байки интересны.
- Sergey Juchkov
I'm alive :)
- Dimitar Tsonev
Скобалайзер мод он.
- Биомасса с биокассой
Ехал Скобл через Скобл. Видит Скобл в Скобл Скобл. Сунул Скобл Скобл в Скобл. СКОБЛ СКОБЛ СКОБЛ СКОБЛ!
- Ⓚⓔⓝⓞⓑⓘ
what's with all the Russian? Can I have a large Calzone please?
- MercyFlush
я запутался в своих двойниках.
- Sergey Juchkov
终于发现了，这些人都是专业的”俄国闪客“！！！
- K.D.
ема, палево
- Биомасса с биокассой
就看这楼刷刷的升啊
- 拓 | wavesand
Большой Калзоне и счёт товарищу!
- чото както ой
Скобл сломал Фэйсбук! У меня пароль не принимается и не ресетится. :(
- nomoretears
страна СКОБЛЯНДИЯ
- Биомасса с биокассой
Russians!
- Jacque
King Midas 2.0 — breaks every startup he touches
- undisclosed recipient
БЛЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯЯяяяя
- brain
Линкер - не надо
- Sergey Juchkov
о, наконец-то просыпаются. "рашнз! рашнз!" - кричали они и прибегали смотреть и тыкать пальцем.
- teinett
НЕ НАДО
- Биомасса с биокассой
Türkler sohbet!
- Sergey Juchkov
может им еще вприсядку станцевать?
- Биомасса с биокассой
главное не заблудиться по дороге
- Sergey Juchkov
и медведя показать?
- Биомасса с биокассой
VODKА PUTIN MATRESHKA
- Биомасса с биокассой
просто НЕ НАДО
- Sergey Juchkov
MEDVEDEV
- Sergey Juchkov
BALA-LIKE
- чото както ой
SGUSSCHYONKA is the brand new real thing
- undisclosed recipient
Будет ли комментарий самого Роберта по поводу творящегося здесь пиздеца?
- Профессиональный зануда
BANYA
- Биомасса с биокассой
SNEGUROCHKA
- Sergey Juchkov
DED MOROZ
- Sergey Juchkov
DEAD MOROZ
- Sergey Juchkov
TOPOL
- Биомасса с биокассой
BALET
- Биомасса с биокассой
TOPOL-M
- Sergey Juchkov
Пользуясь случаем хочу передать привет своей маме. Hi, mommy!
- Ⓚⓔⓝⓞⓑⓘ
SATANA-22
- undisclosed recipient
Wow I was so confused before I started mousing over your names guys.
- Neurario
Теперь в подарок иностранцам дарят не только воду и матрешек, но и балалайки с ГУСЛЯМИ.
- teinett
Скобл хотел видеть аддиктов? Скобл их получил.
- Ph
Yes I have revealed your secret mwahaha. =)
- Neurario
Введем новое слово в обиход инстранцев: GUSLI
- teinett
Такой сиртификат пойдет? http://friendfeed.com/pozorro...
- Ph
чятег!??
- антисова
кто посмел замолчать?
- Sergey Juchkov
it's hide time. Enjoy yourself.
- Luca Sofri
Эй! Разбудите там главного Скобла, у него в камментах русские!
- Ph
ТРУ РАШН СКОБЛЗ
- Биомасса с биокассой
@Лёля, нет, только Скобл
- Sergey Juchkov
КОМЕНТЬ@ХАЙДЬ
- Биомасса с биокассой
404 других пользователя/-ей оценили этот материал
- Sergey Juchkov
hide,hide,hide,hide,hide,hide,hide,hide,hide,hide,hide,hide,hide,hide,hide,hide,now~~ You guys are playing with Robert's name :(
- K.D.
No
- Matthew Horton
wow LONGEST post I've seen on ff 8) ...checking in too!
- Franc, a rememberer
ОУ НОУ
- Биомасса с биокассой
Дайте им ссылку на лонгест пост. А то эти ламеры думают на этот.
- Sergey Juchkov
This post is goes to hided posts folder
- Jacque
@ocurro, it's not longest. Longest is 7k comments long. %)
- nomoretears
Robert Scoble, Robert Scoble and 404 other Robert Scoble liked this
- brain
проснулись черти
- Sergey Juchkov
тогда не надо давать :)
- Sergey Juchkov
ок
- Sergey Juchkov
Это хромой. Вы знаете, это, верно?
- Matthew Horton
it's small post.
- Sergey Juchkov
I still love it.
- Paul Kinlan
i just unhide, and I see the true Robert is coming :)
- K.D.
The cake is a lie
- brain
lol: 7020 coments - longest post.
- Sergey Juchkov
Следующий!
- Ph
а вот если китайский френдфидик придет в наш чатег будет уже не так весело
- Биомасса с биокассой
Интересно - топикстартер подписался на получение комментов на почту или нет?
- Sergey Juchkov
Серьезно. Качество> количестве
- Matthew Horton
hide time... enjoy
- Armando Grati
^^^^^^ like
- Sergey Juchkov
all your base are belong to us
- 13pm
怎样用假名的呀？
- 陈浩小贤
Тема эта должность была ясна. Давайте не будем принимать его.
- Matthew Horton
ЭТО ХАЙД ТАЙМ
- Биомасса с биокассой
here i am and using the all new add comment feature :)
- Ali
НЕ ПОНИМАЮ
- Биомасса с биокассой
что-то о качестве и количестве
- Биомасса с биокассой
и всё типа по теме
- Sergey Juchkov
Here I am
- wolly
The theme of the post was clear. Let us not take it.
- brain
Word.
- Charles LePage
^^^ оценил/а
- Ⓚⓔⓝⓞⓑⓘ
@matthewhorton -What do you want to say?
- Sergey Juchkov
@matthewhorton write in english pls, i don't understand your russian
- Биомасса с биокассой
up^^
- nazer
i don't understand russian
- Sergey Juchkov
ЧМОГЕ ЧАТЕГГГ!!!!!
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
that thread is crazzy : P
- Franc, a rememberer
Yes please to Google Translate integration.
- Kol Tregaskes
merde alors!
- Tom Horn
\o/
- Jemm
какая гугля транслята?
- Sergey Juchkov
я видимо так и не узнаю чо имел ввиду Хортекс
- Биомасса с биокассой
http://translate.google.com - Он работает лучше, чем вы думаете.
- Matthew Horton
Hi, Steve
- Биомасса с биокассой
@matthewhorton давай все же на английском, моя твоя не понимай
- Биомасса с биокассой
Это делает работу плохо, но работает достаточно хорошо, чтобы понять.
- Matthew Horton
*waiting for real Robert Scoble*
- nomoretears
@matthewhorton speak englich please
- Sergey Juchkov
we don't understand your barbaric language! pls speak English here
- 13pm
какая тема чятега?
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
I'm real!!!!
- Sergey Juchkov
I will gladly. Robert is asleep, I'm sure. Now please stop this. People are getting very annoyed. :-)
- Matthew Horton
Скоблятина
- Биомасса с биокассой
И общение с иными мирами френдфидика
- Биомасса с биокассой
если анноит - вали отсюда мудак.
- Sergey Juchkov
I don't know if I'm a true FF addict, but I'm here nonetheless ;)
- Peter Kruit
О как! Кого-то уже забодало.
- teinett
@Matthew Horton НИВАЗМОЖНА
- Биомасса с биокассой
red dawn
- bopm
I sense the inspiration for an April Fool's Day gag...
- Neurario
Ехал Скобл через Скобл, видит Скобл в реке Скобл, Скобл Скобл Скобл Скобл...
- 13pm
А вообще, кажется, не хватает еще парочки Хортонов для полного счастья
- 13pm
Задолбало? Дави на "блок"!
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
НА АЛИЕНОВ НЕ БЫЧЕТЬ
- Биомасса с биокассой
Wow!
- Велопрограммист Аркадий
unicode power!
- bopm
BALALAIKA POWER
- Tasha Orbita.
Привет, кстати.
- Tasha Orbita.
babushka force!
- bopm
кревед
- bopm
КРЕВЕДКИ! МЫ ВАС НЕ ТРОНЕМ! СОЛДАТ РЕБЕНКА НЕ ОБИДИТ!
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
from IM
Таша!
- Ⓚⓔⓝⓞⓑⓘ
@matthewhorton let me hug you, we are friends, we do no wrong, juss bring happiness to people around, join us in rejoice!
- undisclosed recipient
КЕНОБИ!
- Tasha Orbita.
oh those Russians. They turn every topic into "chateg".
- 13pm
check
- Marco Fabbri
Тэш, я скучаю!
- Ⓚⓔⓝⓞⓑⓘ
Это не настоящий чатик
- Anton Volnuhin
Ты не чатег!
- сарказм тут неуместен
@Maieutic Rejoice of what?
- Matthew Horton
PUTEN WATCH YOU
- Биомасса с биокассой
and don't believe these Scobles, they're not real. But we are
- 13pm
у нас в ебурге солнышко наконецто
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
from IM
millomì
- Francesco Cugurra
@juchkov, дизреспект. -1.
- nomoretears
But HE IS RUSSIAN
- 13pm
ugh, Мы все знаем, вы все фальшивые.
- Matthew Horton
I'm here!
- ★ Soner Gönül
Они выучили слово «chateg»! Чуваки, еще несколько тысяч комментариев, и они научаться великому и могучему
- fxf
Мэтью нас раскусил!
- Ⓚⓔⓝⓞⓑⓘ
Я ТОЖЕ СКОББЛ
- Музон Хиггса
юхууу!!!))) а если еще весь чатег перечитают!!!!
- сарказм тут неуместен
ДАВАЙТЕ ПАНИКОВАТЬ
- Биомасса с биокассой
KGB WATCH CHATEG
- fxf
ААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААААА
- сарказм тут неуместен
START PANIC IMMEDIATELY!
- Музон Хиггса
LET'S PANIC! Uiiiiii!!
- Ⓚⓔⓝⓞⓑⓘ
chateg panic!
- Sergey Juchkov
SCOBBLE FACEBOOK KGB CHATEG
- Музон Хиггса
Don't believe Horton. We're real. And he's fake.
- 13pm
CHATEG HAS U!!!
- сарказм тут неуместен
Checking in.
- Robert Miller
А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А А
- Музон Хиггса
Checking out!
- Sergey Juchkov
Hi, Robert!
- Биомасса с биокассой
поскоблите чатег
- Музон Хиггса
Ладно, я только в нетрезвом состоянии уделять достаточно внимания, недостаточно для того, чтобы верить или укусить вас
- Matthew Horton
Hello chateg!
- Sergey Juchkov
LOL Robert. :)
- Robert Miller
IN SOVIET RUSSIA CHATEG PANICS YOU!
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
Hortex не надо меня кусать
- Биомасса с биокассой
опять Хортон тутфту несет непонятную
- Sergey Juchkov
POSKROBLITE CHATEG
- сарказм тут неуместен
укусить нас
- Sergey Juchkov
ВСЕ ЯСНО МЭТЬЮ ПЬЯН
- Биомасса с биокассой
пьяный он видите ли. алкаш.
- Sergey Juchkov
пусть у русских пить учится
- Sergey Juchkov
VODKA DRINK DRINK DEBOSH
- fxf
АЛИЕНЫ НЕДРУЖЕСТВЕННЫ! ХОТЯТ КУСАТЬ НАС!
- Музон Хиггса
и работать после этого
- Sergey Juchkov
Robert Scrabble
- Музон Хиггса
Кто притворяется говорящим по-русски Меттью Хортоном?
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
@Matthew Horton http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7xzzEA...
- Ⓚⓔⓝⓞⓑⓘ
ВЕРЬ! @ КУСАЙ!
- fxf
НЕ Я
- Sergey Juchkov
Matthew Horton, please stop drinking in chateg
- Биомасса с биокассой
Ладно, водка хороша. Я люблю пиво. Сталь Резерв FTW!
- Matthew Horton
HE Я
- сарказм тут неуместен
Америца сейчас вся спит. Где-то в 17:00 по москве там начнется рабочий день. Вот тогда нас всех запалят. :)
- ложный тунец
beer - good!
- Sergey Juchkov
НЕТ МЫ
- 13pm
у нас есть еще 3 часа
- Sergey Juchkov
Это он по сталь резерв какую-то марку подразумевает?
- Биомасса с биокассой
МЫ — МЯСО! МЫ – ГАЗ!
- fxf
тоже ничего так :)
- Sergey Juchkov
ЭТОТ ЧАТЕГ ОБОБРЕН УПЯЧКОЙ
- Биомасса с биокассой
надо притаиться, а потом КАААК ПРЫГНУТЬ!
- Музон Хиггса
ПОПЯЧТЕСЬ @ КУСАЙТЕСЬ
- сарказм тут неуместен
всем лежать два саса!!!!!
- Sergey Juchkov
Robert Scoble has subscribed to Robert Scoble's feed. Robert Scoble, Robert Scoble and Robert Scoble liked it.
- 13pm
зачем он в яндексе? скоблить будет?
- Sergey Juchkov
Ready to serve!
- Anders Dahlberg
from iPhone
зачем
- Музон Хиггса
3 часа за скобление! Да вы оскоблитесь!
- teinett
у меня чатик неимоверно тормозит
- Музон Хиггса
ВАС ВСЕХ ЗАБАНЯТ111
- 13pm
Я потерял интерес в данный момент. Я буду скрывать, как и любой другой. Это хромой, что вы захватили этот. Пивные правила. Спокойной ночи. :-)
- Matthew Horton
скоблите, скоблите - они золотые
- сарказм тут неуместен
I am here..
- Burak S. Vanlı
Да, Мэтью, это хромой. Мы старались все скрыть, но ты пришел и обнаружил это. Прости. Таковы уж пивные правила.
- 13pm
Buradayım :)
- Burçak Çubukçu
опять алиены
- Музон Хиггса
Все, надоело. Когда настоящий скобл придет - скажите.
- Ph
Вы все упоротые! Вас всех забанят!!!
- сарказм тут неуместен
Метью родил новый мем, не подозревая о том. Это хромой, но таковы Пивные правила.
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
from IM
@burcakcubukcu merhaba
- Sergey Juchkov
Мем-хуем
- Tasha Orbita.
это хромой! get in da car!
- Музон Хиггса
I'm here from Italy :)
- Ale♪nastrorosa
ola
- Durukan Duru
пойду пообедаю что-ли пока скобл не проснулся
- Sergey Juchkov
Hi, Alessandra
- Биомасса с биокассой
BEER RULES
- сарказм тут неуместен
Hi, Durukan
- Биомасса с биокассой
hello Italy!
- Sergey Juchkov
Hi Roberts!
- 13pm
Hi Robert :))
- Fatih Küçükbaltacı
Hey Robert!
- Berk D. Demir
Hi my name is Rasmus and I'm an addict
- Rasmus Lauridsen
Hi Rasmus!
- Ⓚⓔⓝⓞⓑⓘ
Да сражу же видно кто тут настоящщие аддикты
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
from IM
CICITMVI
- FlyMeToTheMoon
CHO?
- Биомасса с биокассой
СИСИтмВИ
- fxf
про сиси я понял, а дальше?
- Биомасса с биокассой
всех не забанишь!
- Антискобл
WAKE UP SCOBLE
- Биомасса с биокассой
ну что, ЭПИГ ЧЯТЕГ или день пропал?
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
from IM
CHATEG AGAINST BLOCKING RUSSIAN SCOBLES!
- Антискобл
window, over wing please :P
- Yunus Tunak
SCHITO?
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
from IM
Hi, I'm Bette... I don't know if I'm an addict, but I can't stay away... I keep checking, just to see if something's new... and I cry if I get no responses to a post. Is that addictive behavior? :D
- Bette Cooper
балалайка
- Танаев!
His name is Robert Scoble! His name is Robert Scoble! His name is Robert Scoble!
- Tasha Orbita.
водка
- Танаев!
матрёшка
- Танаев!
ПОМНИМ! СКОРБИМ!
- Антискобл
матрёшка
- Танаев!
нет, не так
- Танаев!
... и скоблим тоже...
- mikolka
VODKA
- Танаев!
SPUTNIK
- Танаев!
PERESTROYKA
- Танаев!
PUTIN
- Танаев!
буржуинцы начинают просыпаться. Я начинаю паниковать/
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
from IM
CHATEG COMES WITH PEACE
- Антискобл
мы пришли с миром
- Танаев!
самовар
- сарказм тут неуместен
was that really Robert Scoble ? or hacked ?
- сарказм тут неуместен
No. Impersonated. By several.
- Dennis Jernberg
NAZDOROVIE!
- ʕ⨂˕̥⨂ʔ Т ПДМЛ?
from IM
Кстати, если писать что-нибудь типа «Апруе ылцц оррке валдов», то особой разницы они не заметят.
- Tasha Orbita.
^^^ LIKE
- сарказм тут неуместен
++
- Tasha Orbita.
Апруе ылцц оррке валдов! Апруе ылцц оррке валдов! Апруе ылцц оррке валдов!
- fxf
Бедный, бедный гугл-транслейт.
- fxf
Yup, I have blocked all the impersonators now. You will still see them, but I don't see them and they no longer can comment on any of my items.
- Robert Scoble
Present.
- Dean
Yep Addict here :)
- Russell G
Check :) in
- Connee
addicted.
- Miketrevis
Checked.
- Smeerch
Here!
- Tiziano Caviglia
vabbe', eccomi
- punkwithgun
+1
- Borgognoni
@scobleizer As far as I can see you have blocked not only the impersonators (who renamed themselves back the moment they found out you have a problem with this) but most of the folks who chatted there.
- милый мой дружочек
@meatreach yes, see next thread. Scobble becomes anti-Russian.
- Never Impersonate You
here too:) waiting for my mission :)
- abdellah
Maxatma: well, that's just too bad. I speak English. Sorry. People who don't speak English really don't have any business commenting on one of my items, except in rare cases.
- Robert Scoble
Why you, Robert Scoble, don't block users from Spain or Italy? China or arabic countries? Those users that comments on non-English languages?
- Never Impersonate You
I'm an addict so I'm here.
- Francesco Passannanti
@Robert, in fact they do speak English. But they also do make fun of Friendfeed and everything that's going on there. You can block them or take part in this fun. ;)
- милый мой дружочек
Epic SUCCESS
- Mark
I'm here!
- Bastian
Here!
- Martynas
Go & Come !
- JohnDu™
here i am
- Howard Trickey
Use it every day.
- Nils Sandin
check
- arnaldostream
кисо куку ;)
- penguin
Maxatma: I have enough noise in my life. I don't need to have more.
- Robert Scoble
Epic success in banning innocent people
- Never Impersonate You
Checking in
- Johnny Chadda
What if I'm only a friendfeed addict in my current personality? My other personalities don't even use computers, apparently.
- MλTT
@scoblezier, really? Why this census of the population is not noise?
- Never Impersonate You
Never: no, it's not noise. What's noise is going off topic on a thread. I'm very close to blocking you too. Keep it up.
- Robert Scoble
here!
- Nilesh
Addicted but it's a love/hate kinda thing.
- sean808080
Here!
- DanDan
I prefer FF over twitter and facebook, but all my friends are on twitter and/or facebook. Maybe facebook will get it right this time now that it has acquired FF. If they simplify it a bit more without removing functionality. Then I would spend a bit more time on FB. Lets hope all goes well with the merger. If not I'm jumping ship and going over to Google Wave. oh wait, I'm going to go with Google Wave regardless! ;-)
- Captain Jack
Bu arada Russian friends Turkiye'ye selamlar gonderiyor.
- ideali
Red 5, standing by
- Danny F Santos
ideali: can you speak English please? Thanks.
- Robert Scoble
Yep
- Giorgio Burlini
from iPhone
for 6 words, this post sure got a lot of mileage. What now Scoble wan kenobi?
- shaun mclane
Oh, check FF.. doh FarceBook... my fingers are crossed in hope.
- Greig
Me! Me!
- DGentry
@scobleizer i can speak english and i beg you to remove bann from all russian friendfeeders, because we are all from it-community, working in internet companies and we came with peace, you asked for feedback from friendfeed addicts — we show you how really it is being frf addicts, we change names, we chat, we making things that are not serious. Why so serious? Unlock people, they are not bots, they just playing the game of real addicts and have fun. Common.
- ideali
shaun: I started this post to demonstrate that a lot of us are still here and aren't likely to leave. At least not quickly. So, life goes on after FriendFeed gets acquired by Facebook. Point proved.
- Robert Scoble
Beyler, bana bir sey anlatin, bu kadar ciddi olmaya ne gerek var? Translation: Guys, why so serious?
- ideali
Good morning, Robert!
- Hector
here
- Maitani
ideali: have them send email to scobleizer@gmail.com and I'll unblock anyone who says they weren't impersonating me.
- Robert Scoble
Hector: good morning! I need coffee.
- Robert Scoble
@robert yes they (we will) stay here, I think tat the migration process will take time and after reading @Paul Bucheit, I think that what we all are trying to get even if we don't say it explicitly is to preserve a kind of intimacy (beeing a part of the Huge faceBook community) don't mean that FF community will preserve their intimacy, why should a community be a plan one, (let imagine a community as a set of sub-community) that all.
- abdellah
Wow!! So many likes and comments; is it a record Rob?
- Erfun
@scobleizer thank you, for understanding. be cool, guys we just want have fun here a little. Take care.
- ideali
K
- Glenn Fay
Er-fun, This is the largest list of comments I've ever seen on FF... but no idea if it's a record or not
- Roy Herrod
whenever you're ready
- patrickdh
the record is in our russian community, guyz.
- ideali
Roy: it's not even close to being a record. It's nice to see that there's still a nice group hanging out here, though.
- Robert Scoble
Totally addicted
- Fernando Parra
"fax a cat" has 711 likes : http://friendfeed.com/funny-p... anything else top that? Is there a ff record page?
- Jason - The Opaque
so is this part of the regular Scoble-cull? :p
- Iwan
here
- Contz
totally addicted
- zsafwan
Yes We Do :)
- Jan Friman
right here, right now
- Hakan İyice
@Iwan --hahaha "we could be so lucky" lol
- Jason - The Opaque
There is no addiction, only habitual sin :)
- Mike Shields
@harfehesaab Уes, it is a Яecord for sиre ! .)
- белочка-белочка
Here
- Chris Riewe
http://friendfeed.com/sonergo... True FRİENDFEED addict!
- ★ Soner Gönül
Хотела остаться в стороне. Но тут такая "пьянка"! Всем привет в этом чатиге:)
- a little bit crazy
I feel like such a slacker checking in about 12 hours later. You caught me the one night I go offline early.
- Rob Diana
Present And Accounted For
- Roberto Bonini
check
- Mark Zip
I do.
- dstamand
Slow response from me, but still ...
- Christian Bolstad
@Robert RE "I have enough noise in my life. I don't need to have more" - isn't it a lot of noise having 26K subscriptions and 46K subscribers on your frf account? I'm kind of surprised - you create a community that large around yourself, yet when you see a new and unusual activity you just block it right away.
- милый мой дружочек
Good morning from the east coast!
- Domingo Rogers
Maxatma: when people impersonate me I have no patience. Sorry.
- Robert Scoble
present and accounted for
- Shawn Roos
Checking in.
- Warner Crocker
here
- Tracy Benham
I am in, of course!!
- Ronald
Still figuring it out, but liking it
- Rob Fisher
Here.
- Joe Bonner
from fftogo
Here.
- Joe Bonner
from fftogo
@Robert, patience? Who's talking about patience? It's about curiosity, not patience. When something strange and unusual happens around you, you can either try to stop it or try to see what it can develop into. You choose to stop - and it stopped. Well, not stopped - just moved to some other place. And do you really know what it was and what it was about to bring you?
- милый мой дружочек
Pow!
- Rolf Schewe
+1 to Maxatma :)
- Connee
why so nervous?
- Connee
Глядико, чатег)
- Кто здесь?
Late to the party but here all the same.
- Pete Gilbert
+1 to Maxatma too
- Shareli
оО
- Monk Albino
Oh Captain, My Captain!
- Daniel van Moll
yes sir.
- James Macgill
please don't go
- Zach Scott
here i am!
- Barbara R. S.
yo ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
check.
- Brian Sloane
hi. i can get a note from my wife and kids.
- Thom Kennon
here
- saskia
I love the fact that I can't read a good amount of the comments here :) FFAddicts without Borders
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Check
- Marco Massarotto
from iPhone
да, чатег однако )
- Pavel Rogozhin
here
- ahmet bulent
as requested
- Al Pasternak
in the process of getting addicted...yo
- Chad Gesser
from BuddyFeed
Yo addiction as per requested Sir.
- Steven J. Ram
ну пиздец понеслась
- Dolgiy-Rapoport
Here.. yay!
- seda irengü özmen
Check
- Eric Johnson
There!, Am I wrong or they added "add comment button" at the end of comments?
- Antonio Correnti
Guilty as charged :). Hope FF will continue to kick ass, even after being acquired by Facebook.
- alfred westerveld
I don't think of it as an addiction though I do get severe withdrawal symptoms for taking a long hiatus.. hmm
- Wang Yip
@Паша, чятег был утром, но потом проснулся топикстартер, пришел и молча забанил всех™.
- милый мой дружочек
here
- timepilot
hola
- spiros
Yes sir.
- Vinay | विनय
howdy
- Brandon Ball
My middle name is belated.
- Benjamin Taylor
Do I need to state my first name (Hi Robert - My name is Laurie and I am a friendfeed addict! "Hi Laurie" :))))
- Laurie DesAutels
I'm here
- Michael_techie
I'm getting there.
- Spencer
Sup?
- Brent - Yes I am
word.
- Ron Wening
Japan here! はい！
- Rick Cogley
here
- imran
not sure if I commented already but I will add onto the pile.
- beersage
pick me! pick me! pick me!
- .i.m.a.r.s.o.r.a.m.a.
oups !!!
- Polluxe
comment number 1287...
- Yann Ropars
This is trying to become the longest thread in the history of FF, eh? Nice show of hands, definitely good numbers!
- Bora Zivkovic
Wut? Oh, HERE!
- Noah Gray
Last, but not least
- Paul Brannan
from Italy too ;-)
- Andrea - womarketing
I;'m currently in Rome, Italy
- Danica Radovanovic
Nobody from Russia here already?
- Кто это тут у нас
Here I am.
- Evan Travers
Addiction came in again, I raise my hand.
- Zu from AOD
Here - and hoping that any changes here are for the better - that nothing goes backwards.
- Courtney Engle
check
- Dinc "Cтахановец" Arslan
Walmartization of friendfeed now in progress
- imran
whaddup
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Если все забанены, то хто ето пишетъ?
- Кто здесь?
Present
- TheDiva Rockin
Hello and goodbye.
- Carlton Prest
Party's not over yet? :)
- Sasha Kovaliov
Well, there is another party here in Chinese and Persian languages :)) Welcome joining! http://ff.im/6uezi
- K.D.
Here we are! ;)
- Ерөнхий захирал
Большой чятег, однако! :]
- Ерөнхий захирал
Nice to see so many languages.
- E-Advocate Network
Better late than never!
- Sherry BakerBrio
Here!
- David Sharpe
I'm here
- Amit Morson
here.
- felix
what was that again?
- Karthik Sridhar
Ой, да это маленький чятег оказывается. 1300 всего. У нас-то 7000 было :)
- Ерөнхий захирал
Hey, this chatroom appeared to be quite small - only 1300 messages :) We've done 7000 in our Russian thread ;)
- Ерөнхий захирал
Present. I'm here in Chile.
- Roberto Arancibia
@Сережа Мэ Come to join our chatroom:) http://ff.im/6uezi
- K.D.
In the house. Long live FriendFeed.
- Joel Zehring
presente!
- Alex Sauceda
yo
- Jeremiah Owyang
What is this 'Russian' thread you speak of? ;)
- Jason - The Opaque
It was already mentioned here - check this out: http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Ерөнхий захирал
@yogar thanx, I'm coming to visit you ;)
- Ерөнхий захирал
Im back!
- Lee Kent
Present from Romania
- cata b
Present.
- xero
İşsiz güçsüz bir sürü adam işte. Dağılın olm. (No, I'm not addicted, I'm just watching)
- ilterocktive
Тук!
- Valentine Valov
I'm always login in friendfeed
- Edgar Rodríguez
from iPhone
ehy guys!
- ɔɹɐɯ
me!
- prezzemolo
Greetings from Bulgaria!
- Valentine Valov
:O)
- Jeanne
I'm here all the way from South Africa! I dig this service and I'm not quite ready to give it up. Regardless of the news about the acquisition, this remains an awesome service.
- Paul Jacobson
I'm new to ff but find more valuable information here than anywhere else!
- Janet Crance
Hello! Here I am!
- Maria Gabriella Quadri
Oh hello there!
- Jaremy Rich
Present!
- April Buchheit
here too
- Flavio
here
- Ruchira S. Datta
not addicted yet :)
- vinod
presente
- Eric Gagne
yo
- Thomas Hawk
Here!
- Anne Bouey
Me too!
- Tudor Bosman
from Android
ok, now what? shall we dance for you?
- Trent Shields
Check
- Elf
I probably qualify.
- Lindsay
Count me in
- Andrei M. Marinescu
I'm here. Still :)
- Svartling
yes, we can dance, we can dance, everybody look at your hands!
- .LAG liked that
if i leave a comment means I am an addict?
- Nikos Anagnostou
1360 is that all out of a so called million hmmm ... must be more like 100,000 users in reality then
- Thomas Power
if if I "liked" - does it make me an FF addict ?
- Peter Dawson
aye!
- vino
I am not a true addict but I checked in to be part of the record :)
- Erfun
I find FF the most useful of my social networks.
- Leigh Marriner
Checkin in
- Bryan R. Adams
Got other things to do too :)
- Richard Hill
hmmm..
- Krishnamoorthy
Addict? Neh. Loyal, now-more-than-a-little-concerned user? Yeh!
- Anthony Citrano
Well, sure. Yeah, fine. Count me in.
- Jason Pontin
Just arrived. Is this the way to the next cliff?
- goodmachine
Here
- Graham Bunting
Guilty
- Ian Wright
from BuddyFeed
Still?
- Tyler Hurst
what for?
- Ali Sanaei
Hollah
- Greg Santos
I'm Thaths and I am a FF addict!
- Thaths
Check me in...
- Alb. [CHIUSO]
present.
- Marco
burada ;) hier, here,voilà...
- Bengi (Kılıç) Kepkep
Present
- Dave Martin
I'm late. But Mom got 75. Count me in though.
- Ton Zijp
I'm here scoble!
- Jason Pollock
presente
- Eric Gagne
Yo!
- Spiros A. Gianiotis
sup
- Kostantinos Koukopoulos
I'm a friendfeed addict and I'm here!
- Bryce Campbell
from iPhone
allo
- Patrick
Here!
- Bill Thomas
Here!
- Steffan Antonas
Out
- Declining Balance
from Nambu
Still here
- Transcribe It Quick
Here
- Shannon - GlassMistress
I'm NOT addicted!
- Iphigenie
I dedicate this song to friendfeed addicts :) http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- ilterocktive
reporting for duty
- Jason Miller
check. a little late. by i'm addicted, i swear!!
- Mike
ping
- Sameer
Here.
- Araceli
Ok!
- Business Blogger 【ツ】™
Here.
- Iván Abrego
Been without a computer for a couple of days. The horror! I'm here. Finally.
- Julie Barrett
from twhirl
in!
- Andrew David
right here
- Nightwatcher☣
✔
- Majento
amilateamilate??!
- Sarah Lane
word
- Fee501st
New fan but longtime subscriber.
- Steven Zenith
Hello!
- dthree
me
- John Mueller
it's my soc media glue.
- John Czwartacki
Half here.
- Eddie G
Holla. The only way I can keep track of the flowers in all these blessed walled gardens.
- saltpeter 【ツ】
I'm new, but I am here
- Ethan
yessir.
- Nathan Chase
Present!
- Ludwik C. Siadlak
I been Scoblized - again!
- Kevin Laverty
Hope this deal preserves FF's power and usability. FF:FB::Mac:Windows.
- David Lounsbury
check
- Drew S
Count me in.
- Nick B.
Here and accounted for...
- Brad
thread of the century.
- Vezquex
presente
- Eric Gagne
701 and counting
- Julie Williams
i'm here too
- Mehmet Fatih YILDIZ
Homer says "Mmmmm .. FriendFeed"
- Gary Etie
Check :)
- Stijn
There's got to be a prize for doing this! Here!
- timedalkat
from Nambu
1451st! :)
- Eric Geller
1452nd! :P
- avva
I can stop whenever I want. Oh, wait...
- dario
Here. Or did I check in yesterday about this time?
- Mary B: #TeamMonique
I always am coming back for more... And each time longer than the one before
- Bryce Campbell
from iPhone
Yes?
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
auuu, pa ovo jos traje?
- Danica Radovanovic
Here I am.
- Andrea Beggi
One more.
- Laura Fujiko
from fftogo
Started a "Save FriendFeed" Facebook group, because I love irony ... http://www.facebook.com/group...
- Paul Holmes
Checking in 23 hours later, which probably makes me the semi-addict that I am
- Eric Berlin
Do I have to check in every 60 minutes?
- Louis Gray
I'm checking in again.
- DGentry
Louis: you can if you want! I heard you can drink a Diet Coke once a day if you check in!
- Robert Scoble
that I don't understand at all
- Mark
are you checking to see who has left since the FB purchase? I'm staying here!
- Katy Barrilleaux
I just expanded this thing, what a fun ride!
- Cass
What if I drink a Diet Coke every 60 minutes? Then what?
- Louis Gray
presente
- Eric Gagne
Yes! I'm 23 hours late. :s That doesn't make me an addict. Damn. :(
- Faraz Mullick
so only a few % of rob's followers on here responded?
- Mark
Just logged into Friendfeed in the last 24 hours. This seems a lot cleaner than Twitter for certain. I'm an organization freak!
- David Kolln
Mark: I have 46,000 followers, but the usual thing is only a percentage of them show up on any week.
- Robert Scoble
That's sad
- Gianluca Neri
from iPhone
I'm sure this is part of Scoble's plot to poll all the people who really read his posts, and unfollow the rest. So I raise my hand.
- Shivanand Velmurugan
Just a wannabe. Not an addict (yet).
- Carole Hicks
It might also be a way for me to filter down my "following" count (diff (my followers, scoble)) are the only people I really need to follow. Those that scoble follows, I can safely unfollow and use Scoble as my social media filter :)
- Shivanand Velmurugan
check
- Joe Dawson
pardon the arrogance but it really sucks this great forum of sharing will turn into a myspace humdrum. Now I have to find another SM where first adopters and well informed techies won't haft to compete with general "noise"
- earl wallace
check. getting close to 1500!
- Jordan Brock
Hey
- Colin Hendricks
from iPhone
How you doin'? :-)
- Red Label
Wow... long list! I'm here :)
- Frank Da Silva
So, does anyone know the number of actual Friendfeed subscribers? Buehler? Buehler?
- Martha
Now that's an excellent question.
- Dennis Jernberg
Only 15 more comments to go and this thread will make it into the 1500 category http://friendfeed.com/search...
- Jay Cuthrell
I just mention the 1500 mark since it was such an iconic query to see... that and the 500 Likes club of FF posts. It's pretty exclusive stuff... but it's also sobering to note that the subject matter required to get to these levels isn't always a uniform mix of cares/concerns.
- Jay Cuthrell
When I heard the FaceBook news, I tried to quit FriendFeed and I couldn't... I'M HOOKED
- The Web's Wendell Wittler
i clicked the "1488 more comments" and my computer nearly exploded. and yes, i am using an amiga 500.
- jack
Now that I have instructions (thanks LouisGray) and figured out my Bookmarklet! I am LOVING the ease of use! addict - not quite...
- Robyn Hawk
you're addicted to deez nutz
- skunkman62
LOL - skunkman62. It's all good, the sun is still shining.
- Harold Cabezas
Is this the location of the next FA (Friendfeed Anonymous) meeting?
- Cynthia Holladay
LOL - Cynthia
- nfan12
Monkey #1496 reporting in, sir. For true ADDICT status, I'd say the cut off is the first hour. The rest of us are wannabes. ;-)
- michael silverton
ANY! FLIPPING! TIME!
- Jim #TeamMonique
fftogo ftw
- Josette
asdf
- Benson Miller
FriendFeed user even before Robert Scoble joined the bandwagon
- Shakeel Mahate
wow! that's a big social - 1500 some ! :]
- pb:
i am japanese!
- psychedesire
yeah !
- MisterQ
Sir yes sir !
- Christopher Yeo
president.
- Ken Stewart | ChangeForge
present
- Laura Norvig
OK I'll check in now that the thread is up to 1500+...
- Stephen Mack #TeamMomo
yo joe!
- Wally Punsapy
I'm just trying to figure this out. Will I get used to i??
- Janet Frasier
holy friendfeed...this thread hasn't died yet? Point made Robert.
- shaun mclane
I didn't "check in" yet..
- Tim Hoeck
It's not an addiction until there's an intervention.
- Bill Sodeman
Some of us addicts will refuse any intervention. Especially by Facebook. ;)
- Dennis Jernberg
I like it!!! I really, REALLY do : D
- Ellen Spencer
Yo!
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
Actually, I lied. I am not a die-hard friendfeed fan. I desperately want to be but have just not been able to get into a good "feeding" rhythm. Maybe I need to add some more friends
- Anant Gairola
Present.
- Vijay
:)
- Nick Soden
here
- Robert Freeze
here I am
- Danilo P.
all on board
- Save As : Panos
actually I am addicted to twitter more. I use friendfeed a lot none the less.
- Volkan Özçelik
count me :)
- Meriç Dağlı
here
- erd
Presente
- Ruben Sanchez
from Android
i'm in
- Anton Noginov х
Add me from Cambridge, UK and DuoFertility the fertility monitor
- Philip Baddeley
have we broken the FF comment limit yet ?
- David Pascoe
I'm in.
- Peter Smulovics
naa-ahaa ... i have seen threads with 4k, 10k+ comments .... right here, on Friendfeed.
- pb:
Présent
- Harscoat
1537...checking in...
- Bob DeMarco
Here
- Keith
I don't need to be addict. I'm just here, everyday, absorbing so many geeky info :D There's no place like FF
- Lysender
I'm still with ya, Robert. Whatever FB paid for FF, it wasn't enough!
- Donald C. Lindsay
New here, but learning. Tips for best use?
- Barbara Langham
@bdlangam From my perspective the #1 tip in this category is: Explore and define "best use" for yourself. Despite potential "finishing" impression of some productive consolidations in this collective-collaborative cognition space, the emergent #cognosphere is still WAY too nascent to assert anything other than initial impressions. March to the beat of your own drum; build your own...
more...
- michael silverton
yeah sorry, late. was at Shambhala Music Festival, I know tardy, sorry...
- sofarsoShawn
I'm getting hooked, still figuring it all out
- Michele McGraw
I think I do. Not enough contacts to make a impression.
- Michael Schlag
Better late than never..
- Ginger Kenney
here
- Brady
Late but here.
- Nicolai Butzki
Not addicted enough, obviously...
- Daniel W. Crompton
trying to get addicted
- Glenn Fay
Definitely addicted. Not sure I want to stop using just because FB bought it.
- Rick Cogley
checking..
- Leandro Ardissone ⍨
I'm the 1500th visitor. What did I win?
- Ruben
Robert-I'm listening
- Dean Holmes
Here we be!
- Gary Dale Cearley
here!
- Domenico C.
Still going on , uh?
- Marco Massarotto
*bumps* the Scoble curve: bi-polar maybe?
- sofarsoShawn
Hello. My name is Morgan and I'm a FF addict. So who do I have to blow to get a fix? :-)
- Morgan
Yo
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
Elo govna
- Eric - seven eleven
No
- Scoble, Alex Scoble
check.
- Bren
double present
- sirishkumar
Here.
- topernic
Here
- نقطه
not #FEEDwithHITS
- Yusuf Temur
проебали юбилей тредика
- Eril
Present
- Stefano HBS
Türk bir başkan :D
- Özgür KARALAR
Ya
- ⓎⒶ➌ⒺⓇ یاسر
چقدر معتاد ، اوه اوه ، وا فرفرا
- آقا هادی
بله بله
- جنابـ( ع )ـالی
up
- ⓎⒶ➌ⒺⓇ یاسر
here :D
- §╠╣/~\╠╣R /~\ /\/\ ♛
he he he :D
- میر آق دایی آرش جونی ®©℗™
yup
- JSLeFanu
chateg up.
- Cibron Nethis
и снова торжественно проебали юбилей!
- Peter Fedin
+
- Koleksiyoner Ali
Sanki takip ettigim, tanidigim herkes like'lamis. | It's like everyone I follow, know liked this. | Habidi dubidi du.
- Jeaquares
Like'imi verip geri aldim cunku IPHONE'DAN GONDERILMIS!!! | I gave my like but took it back because IT'S SENT FROM IPHONE!!! | Habidi zubidi kubudu ANANIBUDU BU.
- Jeaquares
واویلا لیلی
- نومیا
معتاداروووو :)))
- LilaC
Juice - The intelligent add-on for Firefox - http://grabjuice.com/
Store any image or video in the Juice sidebar for later viewing.
- Bastian
Is Blogging Evolving Into Life Streams? - http://www.web-strategist.com/blog...
Some nice thoughts about aggregation and noise to signal here.
- Bastian
Catching up with videos - http://martinfowler.com/article...
nice to see :)
- Bastian
YouTube Mobile Uploads Up 400% Since iPhone 3GS Launch - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
and so it began... :)
- Bastian
Jonathan Doe | Web Designer, Director | name@yourdomain.com - http://sampleresumetemplate.net/srt-res...
Web Designer, Director
- Bastian
How to find the best #SXSW parties. Details/discussion here:
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http://upcoming.yahoo.com/tag... is the list of every event tagged with SXSW. My own calendar is here: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user... The Official SXSW party planner is here: http://sxsw2009.sched.org/
- Robert Scoble
The reason you should use Upcoming is because you can tell popularity of each party. Make sure you notice that people can mark that they are attending each party or that they simply are "interested." Lots of people, like me, list that they are interested on tons of parties. It's the "attend" votes you want to go for.
- Robert Scoble
The other reason you should use Upcoming is because you can tell who is going to each party. Your friends are probably already onto what parties are best. So use them. Here's an example:
- Robert Scoble
For instance, I know from past experience that Tantek (the guy who did the IE browser for the Macintosh and helped come up with microformats) is the kind of guy I like hanging out with. So, I go to his Upcoming page http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user... and see what he's attending. Anything he's going to I'll probably like too.
- Robert Scoble
If you don't have any friends in the industry, here's a few of the best if you're a geeky type (I'll come back with a bunch of names, just stick around):
- Robert Scoble
Scott Beale (Laughing Squid). Last year he made his own parties happen via Twitter. And he bought everyone beer. Basically everyone goes where Scott goes because he's a cool guy who throws great parties (if you ever get to attend his parties in SF, go, they are always very cool): http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user...
- Robert Scoble
Nicole Simon. She comes from Germany every year and she's always at the coolest parties. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user...
- Robert Scoble
Steve Garfield. He's the videobloggers video blogger. If you want to hang out with cool types like Gary Vaynerchuk and Veronica, Steve probably will be the one to follow. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user...
- Robert Scoble
Rachel Clarke: she's a web marketing expert coming from UK. Every year I see her at the best parties. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user... Of course she's attending the great British Boozeup: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event...
- Robert Scoble
Hi Robert, this is great. I will be in Austin for the first time. This will help a lot. It would be fun to have something like a feed tied into each location, that one could track in FF.
- Bastian
Ewan Spence: every year he's seen wearing a kilt (he comes from Scotland). One year he bought me a bottle of Scotch Whiskey. We drank it on the spot, of course, which made him one of my favorite people to party with. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/user...
- Robert Scoble
I'm stuck here in Toronto instead of being able to go to SXSW, and this is making me wish more and more that I could attend.
- Chris Charabaruk
++++++If picking out cool people doesn't help you, then pick out the cool events. Here's my favorites. Note, you might need to bribe your way into some of these.+++++++
- Robert Scoble
BarCamp. The standard. The one where I met Ze Frank and Matt Mullenweg at the same table. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event...
- Robert Scoble
The Big Digg Shindig. You know you want to go: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event...
- Robert Scoble
Make Magazine Party. Make is for people who like making things. Fit you? You'll be put to work here. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event...
- Robert Scoble
Facebook. I judge a party by how hard it is to get into. Last year I had to try twice to get my friends into this party. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event... Zuckerberg told me he probably won't be there this year, though.
- Robert Scoble
Wordpress. Come on, nothing cooler than Matt Mullenweg's crew. Represent! http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event...
- Robert Scoble
Google Reader/Blogger. OK, last year the Google party's line was so long we Twittered and started our own party with Scott Beale. Next year we're going to be smarter and get to this one early. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event...
- Robert Scoble
Brightkite. I'll bet you'll know where this party will be. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event...
- Robert Scoble
Mashable. Chris Brogan is going to the Mashable party, so you know it'll be social. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event...
- Robert Scoble
SXNW (South By NorthWest) geek party. One of the most popular. For good reason. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event... Betsy Weber and Robert Scales, along with 318 other geeks will be there.
- Robert Scoble
Someday I am going to SXSW, too busy this year with the Peterson's data center move project. But as I learn and engage more on the Social Media front, I need step up my understanding and my contact list :)
- Susan Beebe
Rackspace. One way to pick out the parties is to know who has the most to spend and to gain. Rackspace had an IPO last year and is looking to build a brand around its cloud computing services, so this one is one I'm looking forward to. http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event...
- Robert Scoble
If you can't attend SXSW you gotta watch http://www.ustream.tv/sxsw -- lots of music and smart people on from a decked out hotel. I'll be on most evenings at about 5 p.m. Central Time/6 p.m. Pacific Time.
- Robert Scoble
But not a single high quality live video stream, which is a shame.
- Richard A.
Richard: we'll be pushing out live video. I will also try to Qik or Kyte some stuff too. Stay tuned to Twitter. Usually someone sticks up a live stream of some stuff.
- Robert Scoble
I'm tired of low quality video. I want well produced content with good sound, good lighting, something that's not a pain to watch. By now the infrastructure should be in place.
- Richard A.
Patricia: if you think parties don't have business value then I gotta tell you you are doing them wrong. A friend went to a party at TED, met a VC, and walked away with six million dollars. If that's not business value, then I don't know what is. To say you get "nothing" out of a week hanging out with the best web experts and entrepreneurs in the world tells me your friend really has no clue, sorry. People like that SHOULD stay home.
- Robert Scoble
But there's lots at SXSW that have nothing to do with parties. Visit http://sxsw2009.sched.org and see the kinds of sessions that are there.
- Robert Scoble
Patricia, many of the top geeks from Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Facebook, Rackspace and many others will be there. That's who I'll be hanging out with. The kinds of people I've been pointing out here are the kinds: Tantek is one of the top programmers in the world. The CTO of Amazon is going to be there. Etc Etc.
- Robert Scoble
But I really don't care. The hotels are all sold out, this is going to be even bigger than last year, so I'm sure we won't miss you if you decide there's no value there. Obviously someone thinks there's some value.
- Robert Scoble
@Robert, what an odd thing to say. I don't know if there's value or not. I'm trying to figure it out. I hear mixed things. It's certainly not intended in some negative way - I am asking because I need to sift out if it's a smart move or not.
- Patricia
Patricia: it's an odd thing because it's an odd question and an odd stance by your friend. If someone came back from ANY event and said he got nothing out of it I'd fire him or try to get him out of my life. That's the lamest thing I've ever heard.
- Robert Scoble
And I don't care because you SHOULD stay home and watch me on http://www.upcoming.org/sxsw -- if you come you'll probably end up talking to someone interesting at a party instead of watching our cool show. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Patricia: even that is extremely lame. I don't go to an event if I don't know who will be there and if I need to meet certain people I make an appointment ahead of time or I don't go. This person should be fired if that's how she approaches events (or, at minimum, never allowed to go on the road again because she obviously has no clue about how to spend the company's money).
- Robert Scoble
Patricia: scary. I probably wouldn't stay employed by such a person if she came back from an event and told me something so lame.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, understood. but it is true that some events just aren't a fit. in her category, SXSW wouldn't more than likely have the type of people she needs to meet. if anything it may have been better for her to sample 2 days or so to start and see versus going all week.
- Patricia
Patricia: I bet she didn't look at Upcoming.org before spending all that money and time to go to an event. If she had, she probably would have been able to see that the people who attend the event aren't her kind of people.
- Robert Scoble
Heck, about 1065 people are listed here on the SXSW Upcoming event page: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event... -- you can very quickly troll around and figure out what kind of people are attending the event. There's no excuse anymore for attending an event that you don't have some affinity for. Plus, add into this the http://sxsw2009.sched.org and you can see all the sessions. I still say that's the lamest thing I've ever heard, though. I could attend a plumbing convention and get SOME value out of it.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, thank you. You helped me a ton here. I have a good idea of how to approach the conference and definitely appreciate all your insight!!
- Patricia
TechCrunch has some news about my career: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009...
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are you moving the cheese?
- Shane Wolsey
Saw this coming re: Seagate. It's not you, it's them and the economy. I can't think of a more marketable name in tech than yours. Scobleizer Inc. should be next. If your name was good for Microsoft, it's damn good for a lot of sponsors. Just don't let them have input into what you do or say.
- Dominic Jones
Sorry to hear, but where ever you go, we'll follow.
- MedicalQuack
No wonder you have been freaking busy. ;) All the best!
- Bastian
Dominic: thanks, but Seagate is a great company that is seeing margin compression that I'm happy I don't need to deal with. Look at the pricing on a terabyte hard drive today. Hard to make a profit in that business!
- Robert Scoble
I was pointing trying to point out neither you nor they have a bad product, just bad circumstances. But cream rises...
- Dominic Jones
Bindu: I can't discuss what I'll be doing yet because the ink isn't dry on the agreements and all that. Hopefully I'll be able to talk at SXSW.
- Robert Scoble
Good luck in whatever it is! We live in tumultuous, exciting times.
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
I have really enjoyed the videos you made over at FastCompany! Good luck with whatever comes up next :-)
- Reidar
Why Twitter is not for conversations. I will give you five reasons here:
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1. If you get into something with one other person all your other followers will start complaining.
- Robert Scoble
2. You can't "thread" and "capture" a conversation, like I can here.
- Robert Scoble
3. Most people on Twitter that are joining lately are not people who participate. Compare @ev's followers to mine.
- Robert Scoble
4. Twitter's expected usage is "what are you doing?" Not "what would you like to chat with your friends?" Whenever I try to break that usage I get tons of hate DMs and tons of unfollows.
- Robert Scoble
5. You can't bundle up a conversation and save it for later, like you can with this one. (You can even permalink to this conversation and link to it from a Tweet, but you can't do that in Twitter itself).
- Robert Scoble
Jonathan: Twitter is great for attracting attention to something, or just sending out a general update. For actually going into any detail at all about something, however, it's sorely lacking, and not just because of the 140 character limit.
- Chris Charabaruk
Jonathan: Twitter is great for going back and forth about twice. If you want to get really involved it really really sucks. It pisses off all your other followers. DM's would be fun, but you can only DM people who follow you. Makes that worthless to use for a lot of people.
- Robert Scoble
Re. to 4: Interestingly, I really enjoy those conversations that form on Twitter, I start click the "In reply to..." all the time and I end up seeing the twitter pages of new, interesting people.
- Javier Altman
Finally, if you get to 1,000 followers or more (like many of my friends), you'll miss a lot of stuff and so the conversation might be disjointed.
- Robert Scoble
@robert: there are other services ;)
- Enrico
First one, impossible to keep track of conversations, 2 user engagement is low 3. Information value is negligible.
- Richard A.
Javier: Twitter is an AWESOME discovery tool. Yes. But it is a CRAPPY conversation tool.
- Robert Scoble
Robert. which is why I use twitter as I do.
- Richard A.
That is true, as purely conversational in anything that is more than 1 or 2 messages in "depth" or "length" or whatever you wanna call it, it's quite terrible. Also, I find that if you follow too many people, then every single "conversation" is impossible to follow. I'm following 200 people, and that's hard to manage and follow some times.
- Javier Altman
Agreed. Twitter is a great platform for spreading knowledge, not for idle back & forth chit chat.
- David Lanning
Javier: Twitter is an AWESOME listening tool (especially if you have TweetDeck) because you can listen to lots of people on specific topics (thanks to search). It's also an AWESOME promotional tool (look how Mashable is using Twitter) but it's a horrid conversation tool.
- Robert Scoble
David. Spreading knowledge? A hyperlink with no real description? No value to me. I want to know why someone is linking to something.
- Richard A.
David: I wouldn't go that far. Out of 10,000 Tweets 9,996 are pretty stupid. Should I give you some examples?
- Robert Scoble
I find I get a lot smarter by using Google Reader and following some people who put some thought into blogging. Friendfeed and twitter are NOT places I typically find deep thoughts unless it's from someone like Tim O'Reilly, Jay Rosen, or Dave Winer and they both are always linking out to interesting stuff.
- Robert Scoble
Robert. I really like how twitter used to be "awesome" as a conversational tool in the past. Now though people have far less time for the site.
- Richard A.
I definitely agree on that, Robert. Too bad Twitter has become so centralized and developed a "star system" so quickly... a ton of people with interesting things to say are simply lost in the cloud left in the wake of @kevinrose or @levarburton, you know? The big guys get listened to and usually have little of interest to say -- the smaller guys with actual content worth your time are never heard of.
- Javier Altman
Javier, the little guys are the community builders, their engagement provides the dynamics the timeline needs to keep people engaged.
- Richard A.
Threaded conversations are needed on Twitter. Becomes increasingly painful to understand what people are referring to sometimes
- Paul Papadimitriou
Ryo: Twitter is way older and is further along the growth curve. Friendfeed also requires more work and more engagement. Look at all the icons on the people who are following me here (or that I'm following). Now compare those icons to the ones of the users in @ev's account. Not even close to the same kinds of users. I'd rather have one friendfeed user than 100 twitterers. Watch over the next year and you'll see what I'm seeing.
- Robert Scoble
@paul: "Threaded conversations are needed" ... sure :)
- Enrico
Javier: Sometimes what those big folk say is something people do want to hear, though. Levar Burton had a big tweetup in Toronto at the beginning of the week, with only an hour's notice on Twitter. Friend of mine got to meet him, blogged about it, and had his server crash under the load when Burton linked to the post in Twitter. But yeah, things of note from the celebs are usually pretty rare. (The post that caused the crash: http://imaddicted.ca/interne... )
- Chris Charabaruk
Conversation certainly is easier here both to follow and understand. Less chance of being unfollowed for saying something out of context or annoying new users.
- Pete Gilbert
Chris: and Levar is one of the real celebrities who actually engages a community. I met him at CES. Really great guy.
- Robert Scoble
If Twitter wants to be a great conversation tool, they should figure some way to spin out conversations from the tweet streams of the conversationalists (and I don't mean DMs). That they don't seem to be bothering with that is another strike against the service, at least in my books.
- Chris Charabaruk
@Richard: I don't see how much community can be built when your word isn't reaching anyone -- that's how I feel twitter is working lately, what you say gets missed in the cloud.
- Javier Altman
I think that we havn't to blame any service that offer a rest api, if there is some kind of lake in some feature then innovate, the main element to get in mind is to avoid redenduncy.
- abdellah
@Chris: Maybe LeVar wasn't the best example, of course Geordi LaForge would have something interesting to say :D
- Javier Altman
Javier I have written quite a few blog posts about twitter and community building because of how frustrated I am by how passive the site has become. All those I used to follow are now following thousands. They no longer focus on friends anymore. I agree with you.
- Richard A.
@Chris: I think that if the web interface for Twitter somehow added the "in reply to's.." that are chained together onto a collapsible tab below a particular, original tweet on the timeline, the problem would be solved.
- Javier Altman
@Richard: Exactly, that's why I actually went back the other day and started un-following people. I want to focus my attention, and hopefully that will trickle down to others in my stream.
- Javier Altman
Brilliant and I was angry with you, silly me :). Twitter is more or less like a group IM. Mirco-blogging not so much.
- Chirag Chamoli
Javier, Because I did the same thing I had 11 pages of conversation in twelve hours. I was quite happy with that result. :-), made twitter feel vibrant once more. I like feeling that people want to engage for more than one message at a time.
- Richard A.
Martin Schecter says I'm wrong: http://www.commonmistakesblog.com/2009... -- but this is something he can not do on Twitter (join together lots of little pieces into one whole). Give it up, Twitter sucks for conversations and building knowledge on a topic. Quick, go to Twitter search and find all Tweets on this conversation. You can't. Don't even try.
- Robert Scoble
Just Out Of Home: Friendfeed is totally different than Twitter. You haven't really used them if you believe that.
- Robert Scoble
what about app that offer to create twitter users group?!!
- abdellah
I actually see a use case for both. As a pure broadcasting channel Twitter is great, many people don´t even care about @replies. All they care about is that many people hear what they have to say. A conversation can and will never happen nicely on Twitter, not only because of the technical limitations but in my opinion also because of the different user structure. Twitter will stay popular but will also get polluted more and more. FF might be able to grow with a different user base towards something bigger.
- Bastian
I personally find Friendfeed quite daunting. I like the simplicity of Twitter, it's "shoot and forget"-ness, so to speak. Friendfeed is more involved, which helps for conversations, but because everything is linked together in a feed, it can get unmanageable quite quickly. That said, Twitter is obviously imperfect as well.
- Javier Altman
Bastian: exactly. Twitter is a "pure broadcasting channel." It's stunningly awesome for that.
- Robert Scoble
Bastian, if you want subscribers get an RSS feed, easier to sort by source.
- Richard A.
"Friendfeed is totally different than Twitter" - then I'd love to know why both continue to be thrown into battle against each other. Can't they just co-exist?
- Shawn Farner
Javier: right. But that's why your engagement here will increase over time and on Twitter yours will decrease over time. By the way, Facebook is seeing a ton more engagement (per user) than Twitter is. Why is that?
- Robert Scoble
Friendefeed is a web forum based around RSS aggregation. We use feedly to find the articles, say why we're think they're interesting and people decide whether to pay attention according to that. Twitter makes that much harder to do.
- Richard A.
simply because they take it seriousely, remember friend real life one are watching
- abdellah
Adding threading, groups, rich DM, would turn twitter into an IRC-meme product, useless. twitter is more a broadcasting product and needs to focus on search, trends, more than interaction
- Jean-Charles VERDIE
from Nambu
seriously the most ridiculous is their trend :) have you take time to see twitter trend?
- abdellah
Robert: I think Facebook is a different creature altogether -- The engagement could stem from IM-ing, or maybe from the silly apps and quizzes you take in it. I personally don't like Facebook, I rarely go in there, and only update the status by having my Twitter linked to it. And I have to disagree, my engagement is still on Twitter more than Friendfeed, and I haven't seen any particular increase or decrease there. Sure, topics like this keep me refreshing the page, but that happens on Forums too :)
- Javier Altman
Robert: Facebook is like Friendfeed. we share our personal images with friends (when not web celebs) share blog posts, comments about small things. It's a more intimate community. There is a lot of common ground.
- Richard A.
Javier: you really need to sit down with me sometime and I'll show you why facebook is so much more engaging. It has nothing to do with what you're talking about. YOUR engagement might be high. I'm talking about the aggregate.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: might be hard to do from Argentina to California, but I'm game :D But seriously, can you expound on the aggregate?
- Javier Altman
i want more of my face to face friends here too, but they aren't so tech or early adopters. if they are here, not to participate - just stream. educating the general public on value here will make this stand out more.
- Courtney Engle
Courtney: they will come. Twitter had the same feel to it two years ago.
- Robert Scoble
Courtney. They're on Facebook though right? Just use the status messages as a form of twitter. It's just as versatile as twitter itself.
- Richard A.
Robert Llewellyn is another one who's really into it as well he talks back to the twitterers (okay, he was teasing me about knowing about red dwarf 9, but you know) and he's big into blip. and to a point, yes, even bloody ashton and demi :P
- Terry O'Fee
I don't get how you could make Twitter be threaded and still have it be Twitter, which is this rolling stream. You can have little micro convos on Twitter but it's easier to get into a fight precisely because most people on Twitter are on broadcast mode, dispensing with a pearl of wisdom they imagine their hundreds or thousands of fans merely want to docilely listen to, and they hate backtalk. Whoever gets the good backtalk app working will win.
- Prokofy Neva
This is probably a noob question, but Plurk offers convo threading, grouping in the form of cliques so why aren't people talking about it as a viable option to the address the concerns listed above?
- Tech Teacher
the interface :)
- abdellah
Robert - I believe FB is more popular (not better, mind) because it's social networking at its simplest. it's wonderful for older parents who don't get twitter or friendfeed to sign up and add as much or as little as they want. perfect for the people who just want a small, family connection online..
- Terry O'Fee
personnaly I will not use it for just one reason the damn interface.
- abdellah
@Kimberly: probably because Plurk didn't ever get critical mass of users. Without the userbase, you can have the best app, and never get anywhere.
- Javier Altman
Kimberly: the UI of Plurk feels like a coloring book to me. I never took to it. The people who joined it at first also were not the kind of people who I wanted to have conversations with. Plus, friendfeed was way way way better at all this stuff than Plurk was and friendfeed was started by three superstars from Google. Plurk? I don't even know the people who started it.
- Robert Scoble
terry, FB is more particular due to it rigid rule, compared to twitter or FF the process on mutual fellowing is a walk in fire.
- abdellah
Funny that back when I started using Twitter in 2006, it was bad etiquette to have too many @'s in your stream. Now that seems to be inversed.
- Sam Harrelson
plurk needs to get rid of that stupid karma crap as well. people on there "plurk" and reply so theyre top of their karma, not because they feel like it
- Terry O'Fee
you deserve a kiss for the karma mention, I hate it
- abdellah
Just Out Of Home: you are right. I'm sorry.
- Robert Scoble
abdellah - mwah!
- Terry O'Fee
Robert: I do remember early Twitter. It was still mostly status update. Too much of that now seems like they don't have much to contribute and aren't connecting. If Twitter users just do status updates it seems like they are self absorbed or lack contribution of some sort. They're still learning over there. Wait till their eyes open here.
- Courtney Engle
I'm sorry, but how the hell would you be able to cope with the stream of information on Friendfeed (considering all that gets aggregated) if it had Twitter's mass? You'd be able to "follow" 20 people and that's it, otherwise you'd never be able to be involved with anybody.
- Javier Altman
terry , mwah too (what about kiss feature here in FF) :)
- abdellah
Richard: I turned the Twitter sync off as I want my FB wall to not be overwhelmed in my tweets. I keep it for friends to post there, reply, and engage. The sync would make it a mass broadcast firehose drowning those yet to know Twitter or FF, but I do have digg, greader, flickr, etc all synced back to my wall.
- Courtney Engle
OT a little, do you ever see in the future a greater integration with gps services on phones with social networks?? imagine being able to see twitters from people in your area. able to contact or @ them?? imagine the advertisers, theyd have a field day! a computer twittering deals close by to where you are...
- Terry O'Fee
Javier: you are absolutely wrong. I'm following 14,000 and 28,000 are following me here on friendfeed and it's FAR easier to deal with large numbers here than over on twitter.
- Robert Scoble
@Terry isn't that called Loopt?
- Javier Altman
terry, oh yes and it sound pretty good perspective, but there will be always a spammer here or elswere to make thing collapse, the main problem with twitter is that twitter bases how fragile and how risky to build on fragile foundation.
- abdellah
Robert: Hmm, I see. It could very well be the way I interact with these type of service then. If Twitter only has 140 character lines as the only input and I already have a hard time keeping up with the people I follow, I can't imagine how chaotic it'd be to do that here, plus all the other aggregated info (digg, youtube, likes, dislikes, commenting, etc...)
- Javier Altman
Courtney, I don't sync twitter with facebook. I tweet far too much. What I mean is that it's short messages people can comment on without having to join a new service :-)
- Richard A.
Javier: because you aren't seeing the advantages of having lists, rooms, and the metadata that lets you hide lame stuff (you can hide all tweets that don't have a like, for instance).
- Robert Scoble
Terry, Google latitude has been running non stop on my phone for three weeks by now, works fine. used it to meet one friend a few times already.
- Richard A.
Javier: you should watch this video: http://friendfeed.com/e...
- Robert Scoble
Robert and Javier. I hide all tweets that haven't been responded to. Works well for me.
- Richard A.
i dont just mean advertising though, it would be awesome for twitter meetups for example. where is @(insertname), you could have them on a list to see where they are, see just tweets from people in the area as well, i mean out here in the sticks it would be useless, but in the cities it would be interesting. sure, we have brightkite now, but im thinking in a more twitter esque direction
- Terry O'Fee
Richard: don't add more than 150 people to Latitude until version 2 comes out. I can't use it on my phone anymore cause I added 250. Sigh.
- Robert Scoble
Terry. There's a service that's being developed in Switzerland that would represent that type of information, but still early days... have to see how it evolves.
- Richard A.
Javier, have you explored the "Hide" feature and its "Hide entries like this" options?
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
latitude updates an area, mainly brightkite does the same. imagine posting an entry and the phone instantly updates where that post (or reply) has come from. there will still be privacy settings of course but it would put the social really into social media..
- Terry O'Fee
Robert: Yeah, then again that probably happens because the people I'm interested in the most, that would drive me to actually sit down and organize all this information into rooms, etc. isn't here on FF, but they are on Twitter and FB. I definitely see the superiority of FF in terms of app, I guess I'm just a bit apprehensive to its complexity?
- Javier Altman
Robert: I'm not going to, but I have invited my direct family to follow and the occasional friend. Working fine for me. :-). I'm loving the service.
- Richard A.
Javier: you aren't the only one. Friendfeed is too complex and they know it. Hopefully they'll have an answer to that soon,
- Robert Scoble
@Richard: Dude, if a lot of people do what you do of hiding un-commented stuff, you'd miss, essentially, all of my content on FF. :D
- Javier Altman
terry, now after the enthusiast plz make some dark side to the whole project, I mean how could this new service be bad or hurting or make people in danger,!!
- abdellah
@Bruce: Not really, I probably should. But I just am not on FF enough to really explore it. I only pop in here when Robert posts this kind of thing that drives me here.
- Javier Altman
Robert: Tweetdeck FF video was great. need to clean up my lists of people, conduct searches & filters. Sorting through the pile now could take a while. I just put most into homefeed.
- Courtney Engle
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- Moghamer
Javier, but I follow people on twitter with twhirl, so i don't need the same tweets in two places. I don't want to answer without the answer being read.
- Richard A.
I'm in the same boat as Javier; the people I'm most interested in are on Twitter and FB, not FF. FF IS much better for having conversations yes, but they are often mostly about tech, food, memes and cats, so the point for some of us is moot. FF still needs a lot of work - you can't hide based on keywords; I may not want to see someone's posts on cats but I might want to see their other stuff, so filtering is very crude.
- Sally Church
Javier, you're probably over-thinking it. Try to dumb yourself down a little. Say, "This is something I don't care to see", click Hide, and follow the prompts. I think FriendFeed might actually be easier for late adopters because early adopters have all these preconceived notions about how UIs are to be structured.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
The big downside to FF over Twitter is that it requires a lot more work to make it work well and ends up with over-hiding, filtering or user scripts etc. If it's too much work it gets dispiriting. If you like tech, cats or memes then you will be in hog heaven here.
- Sally Church
@Richard: That is perfectly understandable -- btw, say hi to Maggie for me :D
- Javier Altman
Twitter is now the "classifieds" section of the social media newspaper. It's a good place to announce something. And you can start a lot of conversations with very little investment. But it is nearly impossible to carry on a dialog though the classifieds. And while you can write (or link to) a long-winded missive on Twitter, it just isn't suited for that. But sometimes, you just need to get a message out very cheaply. And Twitter does that job admirably.
- Lorin Olsen
@Robert... Twitter : Megaphone = FF : Coffe ;-)
- Luca Perugini
lorin, does this mean that twitter is a buzz machine injector?!!
- abdellah
Javier, maggieconv? Will do.
- Richard A.
@Robert ... Twitter as a Megaphone and FF as a Coffee ;-)
- Luca Perugini
It's like a shouting on a market square.
- Dimitar Vesselinov
I was showing my non-tech wife Twitter this week and right away she picked up on the difficulty of following conversations.
- Paul Rodriguez
There's a reason they call Twitter "microblogging". It's like blogging. It's hard to have an extended multi-way conversation with trackbacks.
- Bruce Lewis
from fftogo
Twitter is see current threads and Friendfeed is to talk about them
- Kim Landwehr
People who think twitter is about microblogging are the ones I don't follow.
- Richard A.
richard, so twitter is about what?!!
- abdellah
@Richard: Ok, then that brings me to a question: what is the proper use for Twitter then? I share interesting news stories from Google Reader, comment on life, use it as a cathartic tool on on occasion, comment on other people's tweets... Is that all that Twitter is, or am I missing something?
- Javier Altman
@abdellah I used to think of it as a multiplatform chat too.
- Richard A.
richard, yes it can but we haven't to do because we can. this is what bring all the pb people travesty the use of the service if they do using the api it would be intelligent and a source of innovation, but they do using the original service what make thing go out of hand.
- abdellah
Twitter has suffered from having so man new users that don't know what works and doesn't. As a result the early adopters have really decreased how often they use it.
- Richard A.
Twitter is the conversational equivalent of playing phonetag but it is definitely more lightweight than FF.
- Stephan Miller
from Friend Deck
stephan, the word playing resume the whole really :)
- abdellah
These are valid points. Never thought Twitter is an extended conversation tool. Maybe with new features like targeted tweets to different groups it can become one. It's still early days for them when you listen to Evan Williams.
- Joe Buhler
it doesn't have to be "all conversation" or "no conversation". Twitter can be for "some kinds of conversations" or "somewhat for conversation". Or you can endlessly argue that "no it isn't for conversation" and "yes it is for conversation". It's in between. It doesn't have to be all or nothing.
- Stephanie Booth
from twhirl
Evan Williams is the last person in the world I'll listen to when it comes to twitter. I'd rather speak to actual users of the service.
- Richard A.
I am new to Friend Feed, but not Twitter. Thanks for the lesson in FF!
- Rachel Levy
I think the big issues are #2 and #5. While search.twitter allows you to view a conversation between two people, it's far from efficient. When twitter fixes this problem, it will be a much better conversation platform.
- David Spinks
Both have their uses - and Twitter can definitely use an upgrade. I can see more journalists type people (like yourself) get more benefits from FriendFeed.
- Chris Gieger
Robert, that commonmistakesblog entry is weird. If you need to be told how to have conversations "correctly", then there is something wrong with the service.
- Andy Bakun
Twitter as a broadcasting channel only makes sense if you either 1) have a lot of followers, or 2) have followers who retweet all your tweets. This is actually no different than having a blog.
- Andy Bakun
Proof is in the pudding. Would *this* conversation happen on Twitter? No. Twitter was built as a status update service. It does that nicely. Conversations is a square peg being fit into a round hole.
- AJ Kohn
I think Friendfeed should add this list functionality into its posts. It is annooyin when people start commenting before the list is done.
- Sweyn Venderbush
from twhirl
Again I think Scoble is trying to make Twitter what he wants instead of what it is. No problem with that I guess. Twitter is great for general broadcasts and as someone else said a few quick back and forths. Those are still conversations. Just short ones. What Robert wants are discussions. Which Twitter is not for...Twitter is great for the mobile crowd who like to do as they go. There are other forums for those who like to sit at their desk and have long community discussions.
- Sidney
@Andy I think too many people who are currently into Social Media (the tech crowd) try to look at Twitter as what they can get out of it on a business level. I think it is much easier to say, "Hey I'm hitting lunch at this place who's joining me?" and it goes to all my friends instead of having to SMS everyone. This is functionality the non-techs are using it for. It's useful. Saves time and isn't meant for long drawn out discussions.
- Sidney
Something else struck me about that commonmistakesblog post... it suggests you put context in all your tweets in order to not piss of your followers who don't know what the hell you're talking about. By the time you put in context (repeating what was said already so people can jump in the middle), and @replies, the 140 character limit becomes even further limited.
- Andy Bakun
Andy: +100.
- Robert Scoble
honestly I like plurk better than twitter.I don't check friendfeed and reply to stuff that often.
- Logan Lindquist
Logan: that's cool. I just never got into Plurk. The UI there is too inefficient for me and too goofy.
- Robert Scoble
yea I agree the UI could be more mainstream, but the features and community are much better
- Logan Lindquist
Logan: I'll give it another try. Everytime I've gone there I didn't like the community. It shows that if you don't see people you recognize you'll not like the service.
- Robert Scoble
wow, im surprised that there are still people who try to enforce rules to tools like twitter,how incredibly naive. twitter is a tool, people use tools the way they want and need to, despite what you, or i tell them, its this that forms the basis of human and techno-evolution...if twitter is being used by people for conversations then it obviously meets that need at some level. its this evolution of technology that drives (or should drive) successful product and service developments,
- john
Kind of makes you wonder what made Twitter take off in the first place? Identi.ca, Plurk, Pownce, Jaiku......Is Twitter really that much better? Is it the name? Viral "marketing"? I tend to lean toward the name. I fear that FriendFeed will never catch on simply because of the name. It's not "glitzy". Neither are identi.ca, plurk, pownce, or jaiku. I'd much rather support identi.ca because it's open source.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
@slayerboy: twitter's power is a global namespace which allows for interesting social dynamics: you want to know what your friends are doing, you want to share cool experiences with them, you want to follow people you admire. Twitter sux at conversations but they are *very* good at those other use cases and they are dead simple. That and they were able to attract some of the most vocal bloggers and social media advocates (Robert included)!
- Edwin Khodabakchian
robert: well of course if the people you follow don't use it then its not much use. its funny how everyone hates twitter and they keep using it. its like the myspace of mico-blogging.
- Logan Lindquist
Absolutely agree with #5 Robert - "5. You can't bundle up a conversation and save it for later, like you can with this one. (You can even permalink to this conversation and link to it from a Tweet, but you can't do that in Twitter itself)" I find myself getting more and more frustrated with NOT being able to follow a conversation on Twitter... and esp. a conversation between 2 others...
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- Deanna Belle Govoni
That gives me some inspiration, Deanna. I'd like to see a feature on friendfeed that lets you "lock" an entry to just being commented by a few people, but still be public. You could do interviews and debates this way. It would be asynchronous because new activity floats it to the top where you can see it again. The most recent stuff is the stuff that shows by default (with the previous...
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- Andy Bakun
I guess you could do the same thing with a restricted access room, but they don't have the same exposure, and there's less chance of it cropping up randomly.
- Andy Bakun
@Andy Bakun - Yep, the less clicks the better and the less CLUTTER the better - have you seen this post yet?: http://friendfeed.com/e... - too much noise is frustrating, who has time to sift through it all? Your idea is interesting,do you mean that you'd want to be able to "flag" comments from specific...
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- Deanna Belle Govoni
That's a damn good idea, Deanna, the non-focused comments being collapsible. This would help keep things on topic, keep the focus on the target participants, but not restrict other people from participating. It's threads like this one, with 156 comments, that show the power of the FF medium and presentation and UX. Some minor tweaks and there are additional possibilities.
- Andy Bakun
Lorin, good comparison the classifieds and trying to have a conversation through them. Even better would be a comparison to the "missed connections" section of the classifieds.
- Andy Bakun
I have the chance to run Robert Scoble through our product later on. What is the best advice you can give me?
Good point Nick! Even though at this point i´m more interested in his personal feedback, since we hope to build a tool for people like him.
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