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Microsoft claims to invent expunge level 2 - http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009...
Private Sanjeev, Ana, Kevin Fox and Bret Taylor liked this
"Microsoft argues that it has a real breakthrough with its Outlook 'Ignore' button. This comes in handy if there’s an out-of-control e-mail thread that you don’t want any part of. You hit 'ignore' and all of the messages in the thread are deleted and so is future e-mail tied to the thread. 'That is one feature nobody else has done,' Mr. Capossela said."
- Bay Chang
from Bookmarklet
Actually, it looks like they've implemented expunge level 3, since future messages are deleted, not just archived. :-)
- Kevin Fox
I want expunge level 4, in which robots go and attack anybody who even tries to respond to the deleted thread.
- Alex Power
I'd implement level 4.5, that demonstrates godwin's law every time.
- Zio Bonino
Isn't that what gmail's "mute" button is for? EXTREMELY useful when tracking convos on FF.
- vijay
Building collapse in Shanghai - http://www.archdaily.com/27245...
The building was under construction. One worker was killed in the collapse.
- Bay Chang
http://twitpic.com/45cg1 - Googletrout is ever cheerful
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Mona Nomura, Private Sanjeev, Prolific Programmer and Christian (Simply X) liked this
What is a Google Trout?
- Gary Burd
Perhaps he's just enjoying the scenery?
- Christian (Simply X)
the photo got cut off :( You can't see fishy's happy eyes.
- niniane
On the thumbnail it is, but if you click-through you can see them on twitpic.
- Christian (Simply X)
i know but the poor fishy thumbnail
- niniane
I have somehow lost my Googletrout :-(
- Bay Chang
Googletrout is watching you.
- Jim Norris
Official Gmail Blog: New in Labs: Undo Send - http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009...
HealingBrush, Renchin(Reina), Darren and 74 other people liked this
Undo send. We're going to add some longer time options.
- Keith Coleman
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haha i just did that mistake. accidentally send an email. ah i wish i had that feature 1 hour ago!
- Eren Emre Kanal
That's a BIG Feature!
- directeur
Sanjeev will finally be happy!
- Bay Chang
Yes I am!
- Private Sanjeev
I could have used this a few times when I was working at the G!;-)
- John Piscitello
this is awesome ... at this point everyone should be using gmail!
- Jay
@Paul Thanks for your original blog post on undo -- It came at a time I was trying to convince some that a 5 second delay would bring way more value than it would harm. It was nice to be able to say, "Well, Paul thinks so."
- Michael Leggett
i just used this for the first time a little bit ago. it was awesome!
- Dustin
It's very cool. I just used undo on a message I sent in 2002 and now I have my old job back. Thanks gmail! :-)
- Kelly Norton
@Kelly Undo Send only let's you undo for 5-10 sec after you send the message. What you want is our Custom Time feature - http://mail.google.com/mail... :)
- Michael Leggett
@Michael :)
- minus-one
You could always use http://www.deferredsender.com if you want a time window of more than 5-10s
- Deepak Jois
I've been waiting for this for a long time.
- Benjamin Golub
@Michael Leggett Unfortunately, that won't work either. It will only undo as far back as April 1, 2004!
- Anne Bouey
For use this function, I changed my Gmail from Japanese to English version.
- Renchin(Reina)
where am i
M F liked this
any clues?
- Private Sanjeev
Google Latitude isn't telling me
- Bay Chang
Inside of a GPS-proof box?
- Paul Buchheit
On FriendFeed?
- Kevin Fox
alas my iphone is neither gps nor latitude enabled. apparently my work desktop isn't either
- Bay Chang
The Matrix!!!!!
- Roberto Bonini
I think this is Sanjeev
Jeanette Bosman, April Buchheit, Paul Buchheit and Arvind Sundararajan liked this
This was the Go-Kart offsite!
- Arvind Sundararajan
Woah, that's an old picture. I can't even remember what I was doing in that outfit. Paintball?
- Private Sanjeev
yes, that was it!
- Private Sanjeev
It's too bad that place is gone (trampolines now) -- it was a lot of fun.
- Paul Buchheit
Holding up a 7-11?
- Jim Norris
Every once in a while this creepy/mundane photo pops up on my desktop photo gadget... it was time to release it into the wild.
- Bay Chang
Chris will finally get his laptop. Lenovo took *46* days to finally ship it. It should be leaving China today. http://www.facebook.com/people...
Mine took longer. By the time it shipped, the price had dropped. They offered to refund the difference, credited my card, then charged me again two weeks later. They claim they paid it back a year later, but they're lying. Nice hardware, but their service is not up to IBM standards. I hope someone else will make decent laptops by the time I need a new one.
- Seth
They waited almost 4 weeks to tell me they couldn't charge my credit card, and so they cancelled my order, and please do a new order. Can't believe I still went ahead and ordered again.
- Bay Chang
Agree that the allure of the quality is too much. They lied too much at least once, and there was a lot of 'misdirection' when I spoke to them. I also had a credit card problem, but it was resolved in 2 days.... which caused the first 10 days of delay.
- Chris Roat
Official Gmail Blog: New in Labs: Send & Archive - http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009...
Adam Kazwell, Igor Poltavskiy, Matt Cutts and 11 other people liked this
Written by our eng manager in Zurich!
- Keith Coleman
from Bookmarklet
Go Pal!
- Arvind Sundararajan
" I'm planning to add undo support" would be awesome (undo the send part, that is :-))
- John μller
Next: archive + next :-)
- Bay Chang
So cool!
- Ashwin Bharambe
Bay, they already added that as [ and ]. I like to see my email after sending it though (don't see the mistakes until after I hit send), so I don't plan to use this new feature :)
- Paul Buchheit
Is it called snarkive?
- Jim Norris
Official Gmail Blog: New in Labs: Turn an email into a Google doc - http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008...
Igor Poltavskiy, Dan Hsiao, Zoltan Szendro and 9 other people liked this
The new "g-w" keyboard shortcut to create a Google doc saves me so much time.
- Keith Coleman
from Bookmarklet
This thing came out of left field. I hadn't seen or heard about it until now. Love how fast we're moving lately. Woo hoo!
- Michael Leggett
I found out about it when I was looking thru the code and saw an experiment with a useful sounding name. We'd talked about adding something like this a while ago -- thank you to Jeremie for just doing it :)
- Keith Coleman
I love these Gmail Labs addons, but I really wish non-Googlers could write them. :)
- Ray Cromwell
The Gmail platform, when it arrives, is going to be amazing :)
- Ashwin Bharambe
Who was it that said all software expands until it supports email?
- Amit Patel
But now it's "until it supports Google Maps"
- Bay Chang
@amit, Jamie Zawinsky, but he didn't say anything about email supporting word processing
- Ken Norton
Describe FriendFeed in 2-8 words. For example, "Friend news and discussion." (the term "social news" is already used for something else)
Tyson Key, yihuaderen, Susan Beebe and 48 other people liked this
Similar to the Facebook news feed, only useful
- Adam Kazwell
Easiest way to follow hyper-connected friends
- Adam Kazwell
Another way to squander what little time you have -- Oh rats! I went over.
- April Buchheit
Let me clarify, the description should be appealing :)
- Paul Buchheit
FriendFeed... you know, for your friends.
- Ana
"View the web through your friends' eyes."
- Bret Taylor
I like Ana's. It might also be good to have a tagline that showcases the other half. "All the stuff you put on the web in one place."
- Kevin Fox
"FriendFeed: you bring the friends, we bring the benefits" (from Ana)
- Bret Taylor
Attention Marquee
- Clare Dibble
Your friends' web activities fed into one spot.
- Bruce Lewis
FriendFeed - It's what's for dinner
- Fred Chung
"Isn't FriendNorexia just the pits?"
- ௸ (k2g)
"What your friends are up to online", "Follow your friends' online activities", "Stalk people", "Discover interesting news, photos, blogs through friends"
- Jess Lee
Keep up with what your friends are doing and sharing on the web.
- peter
All your friends are belong to us.
- Jim Norris
"FriendFeed: All your friends from across the web."
- Jason Chen
"FriendFeed collects your friends' scattered thoughts."
- Kevin Fox
Waste more time on the web.
- peter
"The stuff your friends pull out of the newspaper and put on the good pile"
- j1m
your friends' bread crumbs
- Karl Rosaen
Hmm, I kind of like, "Good things from your friends", though I'm looking for a quick explanation more than a slogan.
- Paul Buchheit
Web services aggregator and friend tracker
- Louis Gray
Also, ideally it would be comprehensible by regular people. The basic activities that drive FF, sharing and discussion, are very normal. For example, my most recent FF entry (http://friendfeed.com/e...) came from my aunt (via email).
- Paul Buchheit
FriendFeed: go ahead and feed the wild animals
- Huy Zing
FriendFeed: consume together
- Huy Zing
Where your friends are always on.
- Louis Gray
"Your friends make the news"
- Stephen Mack
"[Leave] a trail for your friends"
- Mustafa K. Isik
A website describable in two to eight words
- Frederick Akalin
Track what friends read & do.
- Philipp Lenssen
PS: Wonder if one day Friendfeed grows to the point where even the harmless word "feed" is too technical and it will be just friend.com :)
- Philipp Lenssen
FriendFeed: we're eating family-style
- Huy Zing
Feed finder confused? The best comes from pals.
- Howard Trickey
friendfeed is like a normal screwdriver, but it loves you as a person. http://thesurrealist.co.uk/priorar...
- Alex Gawley
"Bread crumbs for the mind." - Think of the bread crumbs from Hansel and Grethel and friendfeeders leaving trails of their online activity :)
- Mustafa K. Isik
Consolidating your life on the web.
- Michael Scarpelli
social media status stream
- Dan Rockwell
a glance bakery
- Dan Rockwell
"online activity aggregator for your social network", "nucleus of your social network", "pulls your online world into one place"
- Doug Rathburn
Flock's people bar, only better.
- Jason Silverstein
"A personalized site-seeing guide from your friends." --it's slogan-like, but kind of explanatory as well?
- Dan Hsiao
Sweet sweetness.
- Walter Korman
Friendfeed: see what interesting people are paying attention to
- Adam Kazwell
"FriendFeed: Consolidate your internet presence."
- ௸ (k2g)
Friends sharing what they're thinking about
- Jane Manning
Focal point for social web activities
- David Vasileff
Your life. Online.
- Michael Scarpelli
"All the news that, according to my awesome friends, is fit to print"
- j1m
Follow your other life.
- Jorge
All my things in one place.
- Nivi
Follow your friends' online activities at one place
- Ruhi
Ok, do we have a winner yet? At least some finalists? Something?
- j1m
Scoble-free since 2007.
- Louis Gray
Jim, yours is the night market t-shirt version!
- Anne Bouey
stalking made easy.
- paulm
facebook without zombies.
- paulm
eat up what your friends do.
- paulm
Consume your friends (feeds)
- Kevin Fox
Your web sandglass
- harryzou
All the content fit to print
- Jamie Wilkinson
All the content fit to read
- Sanjeev Singh
Feed your friends with feeds.
- Nivi
Palatable updates from busy friends
- Mike Wescott
"Info you care about, from people you care about" (yes, I know that's 9 words :)
- Mike Cassidy
Friendfeed: A database of intentions
- Kevin Fox
(most of these are missing what I think makes Ff really worthwhile -- the conversation): Talking is what makes sharing interesting.
- Bay Chang
'share-a-little, talk-a-little, share-a-little, talk-a-little' (say it fast)
- Kevin Fox
Track and comment on your friend's activities
- Shakeel Mahate
Fodder for friends
- Marc Chung
Don't worry, it tastes better than pad thai
- Marc Chung
Tap into your friends
- Jeremy Raines
Surf your friends
- Jeremy Raines
Human powered RSS feed
- jon bradford
FriendFeed: You like this
- Roshan Vyas
Human filtered RSS feed
- jon bradford
Where all your stuff comes together
- Ginger Makela Riker
"Feed Yourself and Your Friends with FriendFeed"
- harryzou
Friends' Unconscious Downloads (FUD)
- jon bradford
Friends' Feeds You Want To Read.
- Tony Ruscoe
@Chris: lol
- m13a
FriendFeed - the art of aggregate and share
- Lizunlong
FriendFeed.. no longer the private blogosphere backchannel. :-p
- Mark "Rizzn" Hopkins
FriendFeed - Share and discuss interesting things with your friends.
- Jick Nan
frndfd. compress your friends.
- Philipp Lenssen
person to rss converter
- Philipp Lenssen
Your Social Web Lifestream
- Louis Gray
'Like' Louis' comment
- April Buchheit
"Follow your friends all over the web". "The internet, for friends", "Roam together"...
- Neil Kandalgaonkar
Find Fun with Friends!
- Zacky Ma (马驰)
"follow and discuss interesting stuff from interesting people" -- they don't have to be your friends!
- Soyapi Mumba
What about friends
- Xuer Chen
Your friendcast，your friendboard
- Xuer Chen
Comment deleted
- Jim Norris
friend stalker
- Robert Felty
"as in 'Feed your friends.'"
- Kevin Fox
social unified comment platform
- terababy
FriendFeed - Two great tastes that taste great together
- Tomas Remotigue
Everything in one place. Everything? Something? You Choose.
- Slappy Line
Most useful tool for HyperConnected people. --- More about that from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- Daniel Schildt
"Social news feed for the entire web"
- Jon Emerson
like morning coffee (but for all day all)
- paulm
FriendFeed: feed your freinds | read your feed
- Ross Miller
FriendFeed - feed in, friend out
- Will DeLuca
Only the stuff you'll like.
- Ginger Makela Riker
make friends thru feed
- 不了解的细节
Friends' feed
- terababy
To further elaborate on terebaby's comment: Friends feed friends' FriendFeed
- April Buchheit
Heh, I come back to this post, weeks after the fact with "A web of friends (and their feeds)." You can have that. That's free. Put it in your pocket, take it out at lunchtime. Show it to your friends.Draw flowers round it if you like. :-)
- Slappy Line
information mining of of being redundant
- fiorano
why can't we like comments? would be awesome here
- paulm
social media aggregation
- Stowe Boyd
information wants to be feed
- paulm
the great web 2.0 presence aggregator
- Bastard Operator From FF
(Sigh, I muted this thread -- as fun as it is! -- yet it's almost always on my front-page. Hope you guys fix this.)
- Philipp Lenssen
FriendFeed, your slice of the web
- Ionut
me and my friends
- Andy Britcliffe
from twhirl
The World Wide Talk Show.
- Robert Scoble
Discussion surrounding the social web
- Bwana ☠
Friendfeed: The New Babel-on
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
Engage The World
- James Urquhart
The capital of your Internet!
- Joe Dawson
Follow the conversation, wherever it goes
- Dave Senior
from twhirl
Experience the artistic process of inspiring online journalists :-) You guys rock! Do you know how much time you guys are saving me from having to personally check out all these 1000s of apps and websites? Priceless!
- Mitchell Tsai
Friendfeed... Your friends, their news.
- mjc
from Alert Thingy
come for the links stay for the comments
- rob zand
The High-Grade Social Network
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
from twhirl
The links and thoughts your friends care to share.
- Ranjit Mathoda
What your friends feel about what's happening on the web.
- Ranjit Mathoda
friends sharing digital food
- Cem Dalgic
Damn you, never-ending thread! (Yes, I blame you, lonut).
- Bret Taylor
Network Aggregator
- Andrew Baron
Friend's social activity aggregator
- Vikrant Sharma
from twhirl
I think the thread was re-activated just to promote the utility of the new streamlined 'hide' interface. :-)
- Kevin Fox
Social aggregater
- TranceMist
What Scoble is doing.
- Kevin Shannon
(friend of Robert Scoble)
- TranceMist
Turns Web 2.0 into what Facebook should have been.
- Meryn Stol
I'm going to pull an rms and say "FriendFeed's Not Twitter"
- Mark Trapp
from Alert Thingy
"Legend wait for it, wait more, arrryyy !!"
- Suryakant Patidar
from twhirl
Awesome way to see what your friends are doing online! (Sorry, I did 10 words!
- Paula Hawk
The ability to comment on anything.
- TranceMist
a great way to see what others think
- Robert Seidman
fresh view of the conversation
- jason burton
See what others are thinking & doing, all in one place
- Mike Hussein Cohen
from Alert Thingy
What your friends are up to across the web
- Ranjit Mathoda
misc-internet
- EricaJoy
Talk about stuff, make new friends
- Alex C. Williams
from Alert Thingy
Hi-tech curtain twitching
- Andy Davies
I apologize for this unpleasant side-effect of my innocent comment.
- Ionut
Friendfeed: The third place.
- Meryn Stol
Get ahead. Hear the news behind the news.
- Mitchell Tsai
Easily & quickly hear the fragmented conversation of technology journalists.
- Mitchell Tsai
Social stream
- jon bradford
Keep track of your friends´ updates, news... everything
- peter huesken
Just out of curiosity, is this the item with the most number of comments ever?
- Glenn Slaven
An overall picture of friends' activity.
- Ontario Emperor
@Glenn: The answer is yes. http://www.google.com/search...
- Ionut
Ha, very clever, I didn't even think of doing that!
- Glenn Slaven
(I think that the "Comment" and "Like" links need to be moved below the existing comments. I scrolled all the way down, back up, and down). Slogan: Friendfeed: Web 2.0 Made _Smaller_
- Rishabh Mishra (p248)
FriendFeed is a center for store ideas.
- accesine
High Tech playground - bounce around your ideas, stuff with your friends!
- Susan Beebe
All in one place
- Scott Johnston
FriendFeed: Share & Discuss Web Activity with Friends
- Mohamed J
I, for one, welcome our aggregator overlords.
- Ashton
the next generation social network
- Lode Nachtergaele
Getting instant updates from friends
- Juvenn Woo
News from friends.
- Panagiotis Astithas
Your friends. On the internet.
- engtech
more rss endorsement
- Alex Williams
A do it all tech dream...
- Anthony Farrior
from Alert Thingy
Be part of the dialog. Friendfeed.com
- Charlie Anzman
FF is the nozzle on the end of the firehose.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
sharing online presence
- Ian
Old friends moved here. Finding new ones too.
- בייַ מיר ביסטו שיין
Best community around for having a conversation
- Gadiel Rivera
kick ass twitter replacement! or Online Life Tracker! Stalker's dream research tool!
- Susan Beebe
Digital conference corridor
- Brian Sullivan
best trough so far
- Dan Covington
zeit geist
- Kishore Balakrishnan
Friendfeed: "What are *they* doing?"
- Space Cowboy
Introducing Gmail Custom Time - http://mail.google.com/mail...
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xiaoxiao, Lu Tao, Daniel Schildt and 12 other people liked this
Not a bad idea
- Paul Buchheit
Nice feature. But you have to use it with caution. :)
- Roger Chen
It'd be cool if they actually implemented. Unfortunately, it could cause some pretty weird problems. You can still do this by changing the date on your computer but they could theoretically implement the same thing by spoofing the headers I guess.
- Brandon Titus
What? This is a joke? Crap, I used it to pay some bills that were late. I thought I was getting over, now I find out I've been had. ~sigh~
- Brad Farris
So I can't send emails from yesterday? Damn, that would have made a great alibi. Oh well, nemesis, it seems you get to live another day...
- Slappy Line
I want to send emails from the future
- Dan Hsiao
If only messages didn't get sent right away so you could cancel them... :-)
- Bay Chang
Quite funny... and scary in same time.
- Daniel Schildt
Surely a lost cause... but I have to try. GIF is pronounced JIF with a soft 'G'. See: http://www.olsenhome.com/gif/
guh-if.
- Bay Chang
Friendfeedfolk: How important is comment styling? Being able to linkify text? make things bold or italic? What's your favorite means: HTML, markdown, *IM* _client_ /style/?
Jeremy Raines and Lizunlong liked this
Not promising anything. I just like to hear from folks.
- Kevin Fox
Do not want.
- ⓞnor
IMO having no special syntax but potentially just adjusting the output to stuff people already use -- like *this* and _this_ and http: //bla stuff -- can make sense. But in a way just leaving as is also seems to be cool because *this* style already looks exactly like what it's supposed to mean, right... and turning e.g. :) into a full-blown yellow icon can be overkill, I personally don't like that.
- Philipp Lenssen
PS: A YouTube link could turn into the YouTube video as expandable embedding, an HTML link could take the linked-to page title as link text (plus showing the domain, it might contain valuable info), a link to an SWF could turn into an expandable embedded SWF, an image could... etc.
- Philipp Lenssen
Nah, I agree with Phillip. I don't think that a rich, special syntax would help much. It would end up like a Steven Hodson wiki experience. I was thinking that you guys are parsing the @toddmck text to make a twitter link out of it, but maybe that's only for inbound links from twitter. Something like that, in moderation would possibly be useful. One of the things I found myself wanting...
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- Todd McKinney
HTML better
- herock
My m.o. is to type something like <a href="http://foo.com">bar</a> and expect that to render as the word "bar" but as a link. But then, that's just how I roll.<br>As it is now, that gives me the worst of all worlds - the brackets and the href don't get hidden and Firefox randomly chooses a large chunk of text to turn into an incorrect link.
- Brian Johns
The only thing I have felt I wanted was the ability to create a line break. Other than that I'm happy with the current functionality. Keeps it clean and simple to read.
- Rachel Lea Fox
I agree with Rachel. The current comment functionality is clean, and at most, the ability to have a line break could be added.
- Jatin
and please a lil' more characters per comment allowed if possible
- Philipp Lenssen
line breaks yes, otherwise, plain text with URLs linkified.
- Adam Lasnik
*bold* and _italic_ would be nice, keep urlifying urls please, no need for [url] or <a href>
- Benjamin Golub
I really like how it is now. Comments are and should be just a big, delimiting block of gray text my eyes can skim over if I don't find the article itself interesting.
- Wayne
I don't like how the comments are gray. Hard to read. I do not need any particular formatting, although I wouldn't mind anchor tags, line breaks, bold, and italic (in that order of preference).
- Stephen Mack
simple = good
- don loeb
Agree with you Stephen, especially on this laptop this gray is harder to read (which might be a problem of my own hardware but on the other hand, other sites look good).
- Philipp Lenssen
I want the ability to make all vowels in words blink alternately blue, red, yellow, blue, green, then red. Seriously, I like very few choices, I just want to be able to 1) edit my comments just my clicking on them rather than having to hit the (edit) button and 2) the ability to like comments, so the best comments rise to the top.
- Ginger Makela Riker
Rising comments could be confusing, since many of them make more sense in chronological order... (like this one) =)
- Dan Hsiao
i like the comments the way they are now. i think line breaks will encourage comments that are too long.
- Jess Lee
I like it without HTML. That way I can feel special using Unicode® to highlight my text…
- Rob Schonberger
I like links, but don't need anything else. That the URLs are automatic makes this very unimportant.
- Louis Gray
links are nice. i don't care about the rest.
- Lilly Irani
I see no need for formatting. Links might be good, but auto-linking urls does 90% of what I want. If you do add links, don't make me learn a new syntax. The only truly portable link syntax is HTML.
- Neil Kandalgaonkar
"i think line breaks will encourage comments that are too long." Though some people would prefer longer comments (and already use multi-comment-style continuations to write them) so it's really a question of "What's Friendfeed anyway?" (Perhaps it wasn't intended this way, but half the fun here are the interesting comments from interesting people, and the most interesting comments aren't necessarily always the short quips.)
- Philipp Lenssen
Eh. Not really necessary. I haven't once thought, "If only I could make this text purple..."
- Carla Thompson
Don't want no stylin - don't want to see no stylin - line breaks nifty
- Nida
Resist. If you don't you will soon be implementing a menu of smilies.
- Bay Chang
Do not want
- Carlo Maglinao
No HTML, please. Basic formatting (bold text, underlining and putting a link behind a text) would be cool.
- sebmos
I agree with just about everyone: all we need is plain text and automagically-linkified URLs - although I believe a maximum of 1 consecutive carriage return would be useful too!
- Tony Ruscoe
Maybe the styling could be changed for repeated comments by the same person (removing redundant icons and attribution) so they render as a multi-paragraph comment.
- ⓞnor
not interested in styling beyond links. What would be more interesting is to automatically guess how to comment using the same service if we share the service in comment. IE: "reply on twitter", "reply on facebook", "reply on blog"
- engtech
I'd really love to be able to linkify text, but I think other formatting, smileys, images, etc could really ugly up the site
- Jeremy Raines
Minimalism is good.
- Numair Faraz
How about threading? Dis/like on comments too. These would save quoting previous comments and improve readability. On your original question, except for dangerous elements such as <script>, pass xHTML inside <div> and <iframe> for those who know and prefer to type it; otherwise except for urlify, text remains text. For readers i prefer comprehensive ease to expressive ease. Let those who crap up their comments get modded down or even censored by the thread owner.
- John Lam
ff now is easy to read because of minimal styling. keep it minimal.
- Jing Lim
I'm not keen on adding a bunch of extra style to the comments. Linkification might be useful, but I think it would be okay to only automagically linkify stuff that starts with the http:// header. All that said, I would like there to be some kind of style on new comments that bump an older item back to the top of my pile, so my eye can go straight to the new jazz. I don't have a specific request for what that would look like, just as long as I could tell new stuff from old stuff along for the ride.
- Keith Pelczarski
Headlines you just have to click on - http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008...
Nice self-reference... it worked.
- Bay Chang
Still a good read. Piaw links to an article about the only company in the world that makes gigantic nuclear reactor cores out of single ingots (which also makes samurai swords on the side).
- Sanjeev Singh
21 Accents - http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Daniel Shaw, Nikpay, Evan Parker and 5 other people liked this
Hey FriendFeeders, I was going to favorite this video on YouTube, but realized that then there would be a third copy of this in the feed for the folks who are friends with Bay, Kevin, and me. Are y'all working on a way to aggregate links to the same content, or should I get used to redundancy? ;-)
- Keith Pelczarski
We are working on it, I promise! Seriously, my name is next to it on the whiteboard :)
- Bret Taylor
Ah, the redundancy question. I've been wondering about that myself.
- Richard Hemmer
@Bret: Do you guys have a whiteboard like the one we've seen pictures of at Google?
- Voyagerfan5761
I felt the same pressure to *not* favorite this video, for the same reason, but then decided that FriendFeed does not control me. In soviet russia I control friendfeed.
- Bay Chang
Her "Toronto" accent isn't right. The accent she used is more typical of the maritime provinces or maybe the prairie provinces. A Toronto accent is actually closer to the Seattle accent than it is to that.
- Laurence Gonsalves
Partially agree about "Toronto" - my first 24 years were spent there and I think I sound more like her Seattle one. But my sister is closer to her "Toronto" one.
- Howard Trickey
I messed up. Anyone want to buy a brand new all-in-one Canon fax/printer/scanner?
I bought and set up a brand new Canon Pixma MP530 all-in-one and now I need to either sell it or return it to Amazon. It's a great unit, and it's only been used to print three pages. I thought it had two-sided scanning but it doesn't. Amazon sells it for $139.99 but I'd be happy to hand it off for $100 if anyone local to Mountain View is in need of one. http://www.amazon.com/Canon-P...
- Kevin Fox
Hmm... might have a good use for that. Let me look it the specs when I am not at work so I can decide if it will work for me.
- Ragani Harris
What are you going to get instead? I need to replace my HP AIO -- I can't stand how HP installs 60G of software any time you buy any product of theirs.
- Bay Chang
Bay: I'm getting the MP850: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-P... It has two-sided scanning, which is really useful since my primary goal is to start archiving my paperwork electronically. I actually cancelled an order for the 850 because it wasn't released yet and got the MP530 instead, but the...
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- Kevin Fox
Chris: It wasn't a contrived experiment, but as I was posting this I considered it an experiment nonetheless. ;-)
- Kevin Fox
FriendFeed is a communication medium for sharing and discussing interesting stuff, such as news and photos
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At first, I didn't think friendfeed would be so interesting. But after applying to beta test it, I really found it to be amazing. I don't think I'll ever leave here.
- Arnaldo M Pereira
Sounds good, if it's supposed to be a public tag line I'd replace "communication medium" with something more low-brow tho
- Philipp Lenssen
Definitely not a tag line :)
- Paul Buchheit
Right... sharing without talking is monochromatic.
- Bay Chang
It's unusually addicting <hits refresh again>
- Marc Chung
So addicting, I have both a feed reader and FF opened. An auto-update (somehow) would be nice.
- Arnaldo M Pereira
This is my latest attempt at http://friendfeed.com/e... btw (though I've exceeded the 8 word limit)
- Paul Buchheit
“Go to the zoo—Friendfeed”… no, strike… “Friendfeed: eat your friends”… strike again… “Let friends follow you across the Web—Friendfeed”. There, that's almost right. “Share (good) stuff everywhere. Reply at Friendfeed.” That kinda captures it, no? I even left a word or two to spare.
- John Lam
New feature: Comment moderation!
Please let this comment go through.
- Bay Chang
Now you can delete offensive or inappropriate comments posted to your own shared items. If you comment on this entry and I delete it, don't take offense. I'm just testing! :-)
- Kevin Fox
Why is it under "Options"? Why not just have a "delete" button on every comment under your own posts (the way there is on your own comments anywhere)? Also, there's a bug: if I delete a comment, and then select "Moderate comments" again, then it adds a delete button to the "Comment deleted (undo)" entry.
- ⓞnor
Why say "Comment deleted" instead of just removing it; I'm curious to hear from the UI guru himself
- Benjamin Golub
We're still playing with it. My feeling after playing with it this morning is that we should show 'Comment deleted' to the author and the moderator, but not to the general public. Thoughts?
- Kevin Fox
Dan: Because we're hoping this is really edge-case functionality. Deleting comments shouldn't be seen as a regular task, but one that we'd still lie to support when it's needed. Adding less-used functions behind the Options menu helps us add more functions without filling the primary experience with stuff you usually don't want. :-)
- Kevin Fox
Yes - no need to show comment deleted, unless you want to show "Comment by [user name] deleted" and out the [expletive] who posted it.
- Louis Gray
Robert'); DROP TABLE Students;
- Philipp Lenssen
Bobby Tables can't work his mischief here. We're real programmers.
- Kevin Fox
Wonder what you think of the desktop interface tradition of ghosted options. Meaning the Options menu would include all entries, but the ones you cannot use are grayed out and not clickable or something -- resulting in e.g. you understanding and knowing there's a delete option, to then be able to look for it (apply your knowledge) when you got the correct rights. Right now, I can't...
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- Philipp Lenssen
That's a very good point Philipp -- I think a disabled/ghosted option would be much clearer. What do you think Kevin?
- Bret Taylor
Deleted comments still seem to be coming through, undeleted, on the RSS feed.
- Bay Chang
Bay: this is fixed now. One of our servers was out of sync.
- Bret Taylor
Kevin: I understand about hiding options, but it doesn't seem really great to add a button under Options that just adds buttons to other items. It's indirect and complicated and trades visual clutter for conceptual complexity. If your own comments already have a "delete" button, I don't think it hurts to add the same "delete" button to other people's comments on your own items. I think...
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- ⓞnor
Have comments always been gray and hard to read, or is that new too? (Feel free to delete!)
- Stephen Mack
Dan: Yep, it's all about tradeoffs. The thinking is that editing or deleting your own posts is something you're very likely to want to do, and the added links there give you a degree of comfort in clearly knowing that you have control over your own content. We don't want to give a UI that implies that deleting someone else's comment is as frequent, or socially acceptable, an action as...
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- Kevin Fox
I agree, the social ramifications of moderation are tricky. Deleting someone else's comment is a hostile act, and I've seen lots of forums where "censorship" accusations are common, and people obsess about control by in-groups. I think transparency helps, and I favor permanent "Comment by [username] deleted" tombstones. I'm not so sure that burying the option will help; it may hinder...
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- ⓞnor
How about having a menu popup when you hover over / click each individual comment icon? If I have many comments appear on one of my FriendFeed items and I expand them to read them all, if I want to delete one of the later ones I'd have to scroll up to find that menu and then scroll back down to find the comment I wanted to delete. I think that would make more sense too because it's an...
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- Tony Ruscoe
If I delete my own comments now, "Comment Deleted" is displayed. It's embarrassing for the original poster. I think you should make it work like it used to.
- m13a
Kevin: How about this -- rename "delete" to "hide", replace hidden messages with a "Comments by [list of usernames] hidden" marker, put a button on the marker to let anyone view the hidden comments, and don't count hidden comments for sort order? That way people can tuck spam and obnoxiousness out of sight, but you're not actually killing anyone's content, there isn't any mystery, and it's less dangerous to leave the "hide" button out in plain sight.
- ⓞnor
Also, have you noticed that posting a comment and then deleting it bumps the thread to the start of the feed?
- m13a
Alex, you found that out! That's a sneaky way for me (or others) to bump something to the top we felt was important but had slipped past attention. Now, with showing my comment as deleted, I'd be caught! :-)
- Louis Gray
Philipp: Sorry for missing your earlier comment. (I blame overly-aggressive 'show N hidden comments', but that's another issue ;-) I agree that a grayed out menu option here makes some sense, though there can be some residual confusion as to *why* the menu item is grayed out. Users might not instantly make the connection that they can only moderate comments on their own items. We could...
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- Kevin Fox
Dan: From a 'how can we make this feature the best feature it can be' standpoint I agree that requiring a compound action isn't optimal, but from one step back, weighing how the feature impacts the primary task of using the site, and considering both the frequency and importance of the task, the compound makes more sense, especially when you consider a future FF version that has twice...
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- Kevin Fox
Now I see why FriendFeed scooped you up Kevin; clearly this was all very well thought out, no detail is too minor for you is it?
- Benjamin Golub
"In that scenario, 'Options' might be better named to something else." I kinda like "More ▼" too for some contexts.
- Philipp Lenssen
Philipp: Only if we can have an 'even more »' at the bottom of the list. ;-)
- Kevin Fox
I would hate to see "Options" become a way to turn on a variety of buttons for individual comments. (Infrequent actions on the post as a whole, sure.) The back-and-forth two-step just seems like a funny way to do UI, and not something I've seen anywhere else. Regarding "hide": terminology aside, what about the semantics? "Show deleted comments" may seem strange, but since it's not your...
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- ⓞnor
Thanks for all the suggestions and feedback! I'm sure we'll be tweaking stuff once we (all) play with it some more. Watch for changes. :-)
- Kevin Fox
Wow, if only the community could muster such passion for the features we actually use.
- j1m
Hmm, did I really add this comment? (This is just a test!)
- You
At the FriendFeed ski trip in Tahoe!
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"Dislike!" Get back to work! :-)
- Louis Gray
really? my friend and i are going to sierra tomorrow...maybe we'll see you there!
- Emily Miller
Did you hire Tainted Love for the party?
- Tudor Bosman
No and no, but the views of the sun setting over the lake from the Taylors ski lodge was quite breathtaking. Wish the 'internets' worked, tho.
- April Buchheit
I miss real company ski trips.
- Bay Chang
Bay, move to NY ;)
- Michelle Lee
I agree with Michelle!
- Kushal Dave
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