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Brad Kellett › Comments
So let me get this straight. RSS is dead because one guy stopped reading Google Reader? I am reading more feeds than ever.
Jon Gosier, sull, beersage and 94 other people liked this
That's up and to the right. I am now reading almost 30 percent more feeds than I was reading a month ago. Bring it on. And RSS powers everything - not just feed readers.
- Louis Gray
I just started...
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
Pubsubhubbub is making RSS even faster. RSS is behind FriendFeed, LazyFeed, and every relevant aggregator. This argument is so silly.
- Louis Gray
Twitter's a great basic RSS reader for headlines and more realtime/'now' stuff. Not ditching NetNewsWire/Google Reader for actual post material anytime soon though.
- BeauGiles
I agree, but RSS could do with a few upgrades here and there though (I just want to comment on blogs straight from the feed itself).
- Hugh Isaacs II
Couldn't agree more. Sure, it might turn into more 'plumbing' for many users, but RSS is far from dead.
- Brad Kellett
900 articles a day? Now that's a lot!
- 321
Louis: I am writing an article about this. It will be in your reader a few minutes after it hits Twitter. :-)
- Robert Scoble
RSS: 1. Really Simple Syndication ; 2. Rich Site Summary => I like the interpretation #2 better.
- Ethan Gahng
That's fine, Robert. We're already discussing it here, though. :)
- Louis Gray
Louis: http://scobleizer.com/2009...
- Robert Scoble
My headline? RSS: interesting or boring? (Hint @marshallk and @louisgray, we’re not normal)
- Robert Scoble
I never said I was normal. Just that I am kicking ass at my job. :) And that anyone else who wants to ought really read feeds. imho
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Agree with Marshall (and Scoble). I believe the best information producers are those who consume lots of information. Know your craft and use the best tools.
- Louis Gray
Marshall: you can read the feeds. The real news lately is being broken in Twitter. But I'm glad someone reads all those feeds so I don't have to!
- Robert Scoble
The signal to noise ratio in feeds is 10x to 100x better than Twitter, though. Even if you do prune your list of Twitter folks (as you have), much of what is there is not news-related.
- Louis Gray
Twitter is the news ticker. If you rely on the ticker to inform your opinion of the world... Good luck
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
I had no clue why anyone would use Dave Winer's Twitter OPML tool to get all tweets from friends via RSS. But I tried it anyway and discovered that it's easier to find the really relevant stuff when you get tweets via RSS. I can skim through 1,000 tweets in a few minutes and separate the signal from the noise much more efficiently. And, of course, it's all searchable in GReader.
- Dominic Jones
I'm with Louis on this. RSS is far from over. Like Louis, the number of feeds I'm subscribed to is on the increase, too. Services like Lazyfeed and Toluu are making it far easier for me to discover great new content.
- Andrew Terry
RSS is critical to the growth of the social web, and is growing quickly. It will eventually be replaced by friendlier, less protocol centric technologies that shield the user from the mess that is ATOM/RSS etc.
- William Toll
Me too. Feedly has rebooted my RSS reading.
- Roberto Bonini
from iPhone
completely agree. google reader is a great feed reader and is getting better GUI wise by the week. great avenue for syndication via friendfeed
- James Butler
from BuddyFeed
Taking into account that Im far from been an expert, I want to leave a thought. What if the way of use is simply different I mean, ok twitter is real time while RSS has some minutes delay, but in any case if I receive 900 hits/day I will not be able to read them all as they come so I dont see the problem on getting some delay.To me is just a question of leaving the noise on Twitter as is much more quick to read and pass through the news & info and get the selected ones on RSS for better storage and record.
- Luis Guijarro
RSS needs a proper comment API, so you can fetch all recent comments on all posts in one call from a blog - with threading if the site supports that.
- Richard Cunningham
That particular person was serving up link bait
- Dave Hodson
Dave: links are dead. Or so says the same person (Steve Gillmor).
- Robert Scoble
I stopped using Google reader a couple of years ago and I now just read it in the stream with my Twitter, Facebook, Flickr mixed in (in FriendBinder [disclosure: I wrote FriendBinder]) I'm not sure why other people don't do something similar.
- Richard Cunningham
Stuart: life streaming is a headline with a link. For the most part.
- Robert Scoble
The reports of my death are sadly mistaken - quote Mr. RSS
- Dan Morrill AKA Techwag
Google reader is a great tool...if you keep it to only important and feeds that matters to you
- testbeta
louis agreed I love using google reader. great tool.
- (jeff)isageek
I love RSS and losing it would change how I work (and play), but I really wish it would be more mainstream. I work in technical sales and I bet <30% of that group even uses RSS day to day. I bet for the non-techies it is closer to 10%.
- Bill Grant
Love RSS and Reader both, my feed reading is rising day by day!
- Ahad Bokhari
i'm with you on this louis
- Andy Jenks
RSS is dead. Long live RSS!
- Aaron Strout
I can't seem to stop reading. Anyone else using Feedly in conjunction with Google Reader?
- ronnieledesma
RSS is an essential part of many things now. The argument is irrelevant and though I'd never say they were wrong, they are misdirected or trying to get a reaction. :)
- James Stratford
I use FF, Twitter and Google Reader for different things. Twitter and FF are far more about Buzz and the conversations around the topics. In Reader I aggregate many different original sources together. There is less need for it to be on-the-spot live, but it needs to be deeper and more detailed to be of value, and it is. They serve different purposes for me.
- Robert
Lately, I've been dumping select Twitter & FF feeds into Google Reader, as well as Posterous feeds, so even though I'm using all of these services, GR has now become more of a hub for me. Also: gReactions gives me a sense of how popular a feed item is. I would wish GR would incorporate these kinds of services so I could get more metadata about a feed item.
- phil baumann
Ughh, no, I believe the RSS is dead mantra arose from the real time Twitter phenomenon, however, us smarties know you gotta verify your sources & our attention spans MORE than the space of 140 characters. Catch that, the dual use of metaphor...attention "spans" MORE...As per myself, I read more articles via RSS feeds than ever as well.
- sofarsoShawn
So am I but not in Google reader, I read mine on my desktop in my e-mail program, they come to me, I don't go 'looking for them' I love RSS!
- Sandra Large
Say, don't Twitter streams have RSS feeds? The icon's right there at the bottom of the sidebar...
- Dennis Jernberg
RSS? It'll never displace Usenet.
- Ian Tindale
RSS is very alive and well and dare I say, even young. With tech news, there aren't necessarily thousands of sources like with general business news, etc. Where RSS will be big is in who can create the best filters for those larger niches. But the RSS readers we have today don't support all the features we'd need to create those filters. Google Reader management taps out at maybe 1500 feeds in Chrome, the most of any reader that can export opml (not just rss like Friendfeed).
- beersage
I agree that the problem with RSS is filtering. If something changed the way I use the Net was RSS, but now the volume is so great that unless you prune your feeds regularly you can end up with a lot of garbage. Most average users don't have any idea of what RSS is and that's something that can't cease to amaze me.
- Angel B
RSS & EMAIL are not dead. They are getting better and faster. PUSH tech can push anything. Push Email on mobile devices is just as fast as twitter. And now we are going to PUSH RSS/ATOM. Twitter is different, yet the same. Sure, maybe a news headline will break first on twitter but will I see it before I see it in my inbox or reader? Prob not because I'm not frozen staring at a twitter...
more...
- sull
Hey Aussie folk, I'm moving back to Sydney! I arrive on Tuesday the 11th, looking forward to a beer with you all.
Will Higgins™, Roberto Bonini, Mo Kargas and Snipergirl liked this
woot! what brings you back//
- Snipergirl
I'd love to but the fates have me pinned down in Adelaide. Blast it all :)
- Mo Kargas
Coming back to start my family! Calisa is due in December.
- Brad Kellett
Awww :) Good on ya mate
- Mo Kargas
aww congrats dude that's awesome!!!
- Snipergirl
MogileFS - open source distributed filesystem - http://www.danga.com/mogilefs/
Distributed filesystem using basic HTTP PUT/GET/DELETE to access files.
- Brad Kellett
Anyone know what Louis Monier is doing after leaving Cuil? He's the AltaVista search guru. Thanks...
Kol Tregaskes liked this
He's working on the CrunchPad at TechCrunch, I believe.
- Brad Kellett
Great how people can fill out their profile in Friendfeed now, makes it easier to see if you want to subscribe.
I didn't notice, just did mine then. Well, 'did' as in 'copied from Twitter'
- Brad Kellett
Yeah, me too. I've been pretty much on mobile (and twitter I guess) for 3 weeks, so didn't notice until I went to add people who've been subscribing to me.
- jjprojects
WTF has everyone else just discovered friendfeed or something?
AJ Kohn and FFing Enigma (aka Tina) liked this
No, FriendFeed have implemented an easy way to import twitterfriends B4 had to do it manually or with an internetducttape app
- dedlam
I was thinking the same thing, more new subscribers in the last few days. Looks like you can sign in with Twitter/Facebook/etc now as well
- Brad Kellett
Yep, I now hate Friendfeed. Most of it's power was in sharing multiple content types, and they've now dropped that.
You can still share all the content types that you cold before. What specifically are you finding trouble with? I'd like to help.
- Kevin Fox
In the old Friendfeed, you could specify the type of content when you were posting, rather than just sticking a link in. As with the bookmarklet issue, it's entirely less useful to the end user.
- Brad Kellett
What the hell is with the FriendFeed share bookmarklet now? You can't post links properly, and you can't attach an image.
I thought I was the only one having this issue. May be backing off friendfeed if this is how the bookmarklet works.
- Andy Kleinschmidt
Links are now part of the title (rather than linkifying your whole note about the item) and you should be able to attach images as before. Can you give me an example of a page that's giving you trouble? Thanks!
- Kevin Fox
Kevin: the post immediately before this one was done with the bookmarket
- Brad Kellett
Which one? How to make a baby? What did you try to add?
- Kevin Fox
When you open the bookmarklet, it only let's you put the link in the title like you say. This screws up the posting to Twitter (you get two links, the one in the title, and the one to the Friendfeed post). Before, it would post the title, and the Friendfeed link would link to the original page.
- Brad Kellett
Particletree » PHP Quick Profiler - http://particletree.com/feature...
Like Firebug, but for PHP. Needs some work to make it happy with PHP5, but a good start.
- Brad Kellett
$ cheat git - http://cheat.errtheblog.com/s...
Git cheat sheet
- Brad Kellett
Remote Git Repos on Ubuntu: The Right Way - http://blog.drewolson.org/2008...
Bring Down IE 6: Calling time on IE6 - http://www.bringdownie6.com/bring-d...
Quite a thoughtful analysis, though still skewed towards those that really want it gone
- Brad Kellett
from Bookmarklet
I Want to Thank Cuil for Confusing Me With a Tech Mogul and BIllionaire - http://www.cuil.com/search...
Joel Alenchery, Kol Tregaskes, Morton Fox and 22 other people liked this
Given how long Cuil has been out, one would think they would have solved issues like this... but... I guess not! And Sergey, I'll trade you credit cards for just one day. One.
- Louis Gray
from Bookmarklet
Hehe, good one Louis, lol! That would be one lucky dream to realize.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
I had almost 100% forgotten that cuil existed.
- Alex Gawley
they are finished
- Donovan Slennon
Cuil is not yet deadpooled?
- Shane Pearson
Cuil really need some serious overhaul, if not -- give up already.
- AJ Batac
Shane, they've still got a nice amount of cash in the bank ;) they'll be around for a while yet.
- Nicholas James
Wow, Cuil is still alive!
- Alan Kodzasov
We've come a long way, but we still have a very long road ahead. And yes, images blow still, but they are about to get a lot better.
- Brad Kellett
World Gazetteer: download - http://www.world-gazetteer.com/wg...
Download list of locations around the world with population for import to a database
- Brad Kellett
Monitoring system for multiple nodes, lots of plugins
- Brad Kellett
generatedata.com - http://www.generatedata.com/#about
Generate random test data for various things, like to populate a test DB for your web app
- Brad Kellett
In Tanzania, cell phones used to save Albinos - http://www.textually.org/textual...
"Investigators say the body parts of a single murdered albino sell for over $1,000, with the skin and flesh dried out and set into amulets and the bones ground down into a powder."
- Brad Kellett
from Bookmarklet
My new Univega, already started doing a few things to it.
Jim Vrckovski liked this
neat looking ride. you trying to shed some weight?
- Roman Tarnavski
Narh, I ride to and from the train station for work every day and pretty much everywhere around SF, wanted a new toy - I'm a vintage bike lover.
- Brad Kellett
ah… fair enough. it looks great. is the infrastructure for bikes better in SF than in Sydney?
- Roman Tarnavski
@brentoe ah. I didn't see it (I can't stream video from Cricket Australia over here), so thanks :)
I can probably hook you up with an Australian proxy so that isn't a problem...
- Brad Kellett
I've really got to get to an optometrist.I've been relying on Dollar Store reading glasses for a while lately. Am I ruining my eyes with em?
Yes, you probably are. If you're having trouble, those things are terrible. I need new glasses as well, thinking about it...
- Brad Kellett
I've never needed glasses up until now. But at almost 41 it makes a helluva difference for me with reading stuff. I think I'll have to get in there in the next week or two - but first I'll check my coverage. ;)
- Richard Querin
browsersec - Google Code - http://code.google.com/p...
The Browser Security Handbook, covering IE 6 and 7, Firefox 2 and 3, Safari, Opera, Chrome, and the Android browser
- Brad Kellett
Twply (a new tool for getting @replies to email) spams Twitter: http://search.twitter.com/search... -- really awful marketing. Stupid. Lame. Idiotic.
Doug McArthur, Steve 'Chippy' Paine, Timo Heuer and 41 other people liked this
Not that I like it any more than everyone else, but it does give you the option to turn the post off when you sign up. Language could be a lot more specific though, and it should be off by default.
- Brad Kellett
Why would you want @replies to email anyway? RSS seems a much more elegant solution.
- AJ Kohn
One of the reasons I use Twitter (and FF and IM and etc) is to AVOID stuff getting sent to my email. I don't get what the value of Twply is supposed to be.
- Troy Forster
from twhirl
first time I've seen it, I thought someone actually tweeted it. Then all of a sudden, most of my timeline was 'tweeting' the same message.
- Dee S.
Email may be preferable on some mobile devices. But, I agree with Robert, an awful way to spam Twitter. Spam as the default=bad. Choice of "support twply on your first login" is too vague and even misleading.
- iSteeve
They seem to have a different idea of what "viral marketing" is about.
- Franz Binder
Definetely agree with iSteeve - "I support twply ... every three weeks I show them love" is vague. This does not indicate to me that every three weeks they will be sending out spam with my name attached. I hope they are shut down.
- Renee Hendricks
any 3rd application that asks for my twitter name/pswd - I don't give my info. Red flag - but just my opinion.
- Jennifer
The thing that put it over the edge for me was "Neat Stuff!" --- It sounds like a personal endorsement instead of an announcement that someone is trying it out. Big difference between "I'm trying this out" and "I think this is the coolest thing ever"
- Jose Castillo
I don't think they should shut down, I think they need to let the people who use it tell others about it on a "hey check this tool out", basis.
- Charlieray
I agree with TheJennTaFur ... unfortunately, Twply has set a bad example for those 3rd party twitter apps who are actually developing for the betterment of the Twittersphere, not just to spread themselves thin
- Kevin Pruett
They've now seemingly removed the checkbox altogether from their site.
- Patrick Veverka
FWIW, I enabled Twply on a test account and it honored my "no tweet" request
- Dan Byler
Don't trust them now. Changed my Twitter password so they couldn't screw with my account. We need a better way to interact with Twitter from a security perspective. Some sort of trust 3rd party. Maybe Twitter could implement something that allowed us to authorize various clients through the Twitter site, rather than giving out our password to multiple companies. PeopleBrowsr, TweetDeck, etc, etc all have our password.
- Scott Maentz
Pretty sure that you made twply's day, Robert.
- beersage
beersage: probably.
- Robert Scoble
I wish I had seen your post about 8 minutes earlier Robert.
- Mathew A. Koeneker
Dan, I tried it on a test account and it tweeted anyway. Seems like they have a bug in their code.
- Patrick Veverka
Agree with @smaentz -- third party apps should be authorized through Twitter account, not by giving out Twitter password.
- Frank Scavo
Started hashtag #twplyFAIL
- Justin Stayshyn
You know, the CAN-SPAM act is sufficiently vague on the definition of an electronic mail message that this type of stuff could feasibly be under its domain. Do they provide an opt-out mechanism for their "support" tweets? Is there a physical address?
- Mark Trapp
I agree with Scott - we need the allow/authorize feature for clients in Twitter. I m recommending everyone to change their Twitter pswd after the 'twply' thing. As soon I put my Twitter username and pwd I found something weird about it!
- Frank Da Silva
They need to be clear what it means to "support" them on your first login. I see from their Twitter stream that they'll post your "support" every three weeks. Did I miss that on their home page?
- Julie Barrett
Was this due to not reading carefully? Or are they sent even if elected not to support? Read carefully before signing up at http:/twply.com
- Brian
Brian: it's both. The opt-in was "support Twply on first login": no mention of sending out a Tweet. In addition, people are reporting that even though they clicked "No thanks" they sent out the tweet anyway. Combined with the developer of Twply's intransigence, it doesn't make for a very good experience.
- Mark Trapp
Checking out the twply page again - I m wondering where is the 'about us', 'contact us, 'help', etc... as in any other website/application or whois behind it hyperlink! Very weird indeed! Red Flag big time!! as the first 2009 starter it failed!! This is the Whois Record for the domain: http://whois.domaintools.com/twply...
- Frank Da Silva
Yeah, last thing I want is twitter invading my inbox. Part of what I like about twitter is the lack of inbox integration.
- Jeff
I unchecked the support box and it still sent the spam. There is no delete account on the site. Changed my password. This is a spam hack. FAIL.
- Mark Interrante
unchecked the support box, same as everyone else, still sent the tweet
- Patphelan
If you're an active Twitter user and 1) you see two or three people with the same tweet in near succession and 2) go check out the service and 3) see the "Support twply..." radio button, and you can't put it all together to know it's going to send the same message on your behalf if you opt-in, well then, i don't know what to tell you. I guess stop breathing through your mouth?
- Morgan
...if on the otherhand you checked no and it still sent it then that is total fail. @mark trapp's comment about CAN-SPAM and the opt-out of notices is also an interesting angle.
- Morgan
Doesn't Twply.com mimic what TweetLater.com already does? Per the site, Tweetlater has about 12K Twitter users.
- Anthony K. Valley ©
twply just sold for $1200 , very strange http://marketplace.sitepoint.com/auction...
- Patphelan
Is this credible? Doesn't it seem nuts to sell so quickly? And what are they selling? The service or just the domain name?
- Carter Rabasa
Could be that the seller will incur costs beyond what they can handle and decided to sell, Or they just ran off with people's account info.
- Charlieray
My first -ve experience with twitter. Compliments of twply.
- B2B Specialist
Fastest flip in the history of Web 2.0? Twply was just sold for $1200 after being in operation for less than a day. http://bit.ly/twply4sale
- Mike Doeff
An interesting dilemma - I hate spam and would like to boycott anything promoted that way. Usually it's junk - Viagra or whatever - but occasionally it's something I would actually have liked had it been promoted honestly. I agree with Frank Scavo and @smaentz though: Twitter should have a better access-control system, like Flickr: give Twply read-only access, no risk of this happening in the first place.
- James
Mike - I'd say this one was just as quick - http://www.centernetworks.com/justhac...
- Allen Stern
Scott: it's probably worth me pointing out that TweetDeck accesses your Twitter username password from your local machine only, it is not stored centrally. There's no point saving this data centrally, poses way to much of a security risk and responsibilty on the developers shoulders.
- Iain Dodsworth
I don't know if I'd consider 825 sign-ups (according to their sale notice) all that effective, especially considering the number of big names that talked about it. It did net the guy a quick 1,200 bucks, though.
- Mark Trapp
I suspect oAuth just got bumped up the list at Twitter today. Even Google Friend Connect is asking for my Twitter password.
- Bob Hitching
Digg this if your sick of power users stealing stories. - http://digg.com/tech_ne...
Julian Muñoz, Brad Parler, Mike D. and Jeff (the メガマクダジ of FF) liked this
"Thanks all, we are readying the -constructive- suggestions now."
- Kevin Rose
Firefox just choked trying to load that page, eventually giving an unresponsive script error. Hope there is some good value coming out of those comments.
- Brad Kellett
Same here, Brad, it totally hosed Firefox for me.
- David Wilson
Remember El Caballo Blanco? http://www.elcaballoblanco.com.au/
Wow they have been up and down. Used to live near them, but never went.
- Brad Kellett
Gran Torino is a fantastic movie.
I absolutely agree. I thought it would be a good one for Eastwood to retire on.
- Brad Kellett
Just placed an order on Amazon for HD MiniDV tapes and Audio-Technica ATR-35S Lavalier Microphone! Getting ready for Macworld!
What camera do you use? Haven't gone non-tape yet?
- Brad Kellett
Seriously, even being on this list is an honor. http://www.businessweek.com/the_thr...
Andy Breeding, Mathew™ one of a kind, MVB (Grinch of FF) and Robert Scoble liked this
BusinessWeek picked Cuil as most successful startup. That proves this list doesn't mean much.
- Robert Scoble
And I am on the list too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert: As an employee of Cuil, I can say that while our launch was botched (mainly due to some bad PR people, we know we're not a damn Google competitor yet...), we have some seriously interesting things coming up and a lot of smart people working on them. I hope we can change people's opinions with time - we're in it for the long haul.
- Brad Kellett
And I do apologize for getting off-topic there ;)
- Brad Kellett
Brad: that is good to hear but successful this year? No way.
- Robert Scoble
I think Scoble is talking about early adopters having passed on Cuil.
- Marshall Sponder
Robert: Oh yeah, I totally agree with you there, was just trying to say that we're not over yet. I'd love to hear what BW's criteria was for that.
- Brad Kellett
Robert does this mean you will be asking to be removed from the list? And from my understanding, the names were chosen by readers, not by BW.
- Mack Collier
I don't know if i'd call them "bad" PR people, they drummed up a ridiculous amount of attention very quickly
- Richard Lawler
Richard: True, bad is the wrong word. We were just misrepresented somewhat, we know we're not Google yet, Cuil is a work in progress.
- Brad Kellett
just overheard some Americans on the train refer to Hilary Clinton as 'a corrupt hillbilly from Arkansas'
Think of what it's like when you're actually over here ;)
- Brad Kellett
Slicehost - VPS Hosting - http://www.slicehost.com/
Anyone have any experience with Slicehost? Their plans look pretty good for what you're getting.
- Brad Kellett
from Bookmarklet
ever since I switched my site hosting to @mosso, I have not had a minute of downtime.. love them, let me know if you need a coupon to switch
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of techstars.com is praising @mosso -- anyone else using @mosso to host their sites? Or is everyone else on Amazon's S3?
- Robert Scoble
I'm using Mosso. I've had some down time over the last few months (php related, about two hours) but not significant (and it is getting better). I've also had email arrive 'slower' than say a cc sent to gmail or my own dedicated box. I'm still with Mosso but need other servers for things requiring command line interface.
- Andrew Leyden
@Scoble Mosso isn't like S3 ;)
- Yuvi
I'm using a Xen partition on a resold XLS Hosting account, and haven't had many problems, for what it's worth (other than a minor screwup involving MySQL hosting).
- Tyson Key
I'd be interested in the coupon Andrew. I'm on MediaTemple at the moment, and they have been having a few problems lately. Was going to start looking into other hosts since my account is almost up for renewal.
- Brad Kellett
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