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google voice
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TWiT
- Eric Geller
GV is another app that would Greatly benefit from a good tutorial, or a walk through ... I love it as far as I am able to push it !
- TalkToMeGuy
what about it?
- Laura Norvig
Wonder when they'll allow integration with Google Apps? And number portability?
- Bob DeAmbra
I've got a number but no one ever calls me using that number LOL
- milesg
BREAKIN UP REALY BAD IN GEORGIA ON THE AUDIO
- daveccorey
I'm on hold with my long distance carrier right now - going to cancel it because I can just use google voice. This is bad for telcos!
- Laura Norvig
I'll use Voice till they start charging me money to use it..
- milesg
I love google voice! How did I live without it?
- Captain Jack
i love this rant by @MattBlumberg about business deals getting "Stuck in Legal" http://onlyonce.blogs.com/onlyonc...
Tracy Benham and Bob DeAmbra liked this
So painfully true...
- George Tziralis
Hey, Paul and Bret, can you sell out more often? I got 1,000 followers this week alone. :-)
M.Bamieh, Ahmet Soyata, Sezer Degirmenbasi and 13 other people liked this
haha :)
- Oğuz Serdar
So far I've got about 40 new followers, and I don't even post any comments
- Reyna Carlos
my facebook account is on fire this week after the FF acquisition!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
oh, and Demi Moore is following me now on FF!
- Susan Beebe
from BuddyFeed
Yeah, it's crazy the influx of new subscriptions.
- Akiva Moskovitz
I got a follower from Turkey. Robert, did I hear you say there's a way to translate foreign-language posts right here on the site? I went looking for something like that in the Tools and didn't find it, so it's possible I hallucinated you mentioning such a feature.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
Twitter outages and the truncated reply issue are moving folks to look around
- WarLord
OUCH.
- Derrick
Robert, I sent you an email earlier today about The Social Web TV, but I know you have too many signals via too many channels! :)
- John McCrea
Is Amazon announcing some new web services stuff? http://twitter.com/jeffbar... sure hints that.
Nicholas James, Santa CW™, anna sauce and 12 other people liked this
Jeff Barr is Amazon's Web services evangelist. When he stays up usually interesting stuff happens.
- Robert Scoble
hope support for Windows Server 2008 is on the list. just Server 2003 at the moment.
- Karim
nahhhhh. they just announced a 2nd east coast u.s. availability zone, and one in the EU. so now your app can survive global thermonuclear war without a single fail whale.
- Karim
Jeff Barr is my hero. He just helped me out HUGE on a copyright issue
- anna sauce
Big-Screen e-Readers May Help Save Newspapers - NYTimes.com - http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
David P., Denise Howell, Brandon Mendelson and 4 other people liked this
But it is Amazon, maker of the Kindle, that appears to be first in line to try throwing an electronic life preserver to old-media companies. As early as this week, according to people briefed on the online retailer’s plans, Amazon will introduce a larger version of its Kindle wireless device tailored for displaying newspapers, magazines and perhaps textbooks. An Amazon spokesman would not comment, but some news organizations, including The New York Times, are expected to be involved in the introduction of the device, according to people briefed on the plans. A spokeswoman for The Times, Catherine J. Mathis, said she could not comment on the company’s relationship with Amazon.
- Leo Laporte
What really sucks is that you can't get kindle in Japan.
- Carlos Brefe
You can import one, but you won't be able to download anything over the air. No can do because of commercial copyright-zoning agreements. It is even doubtful if Amazon will let you download "non-Japanese" titles to the desktop for the same reason.
- ianf ⌘
Wow... a big Kindle would be tough for me to resist. Although I won't make any move until I see if anything comes of the Apple media pad. Color trumps everything else for me.
- Roger Benningfield
Conor Oberst's documentary "One of My Kind" in HD http://documentary.causecast.org
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FriendFeed roll call: who's here?
Christian Burns , Ahsan Ali aka. Slick, aerobroken and 56 other people liked this
raises hand
- Nathan Chase
me2
- Peter Dawson
Yep.
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
not here today (mostly)
- Micah Wittman
[looking around] I was here a minute ago...
- Sprague D
Me.
- Rochelle
✓
- Brian Sullivan
Me
- Michelle Martinez
sort of here, sort of there
- RAPatton
Just for a minute
- Patrick Jordan
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
- Bec Rowe @d0tski
Me, but off to take daughter to ballet soon. Daddy/Daughter time FTW!
- AJ Kohn
+100 Brian :) so, yeah me too.
- vijay
Yuvi!
- Yuvi
I'm here, well, kinda ;)
- Paula Hawk
This guy --->
- Derrick
tehGuy who makes dorky posts.
- teh Dork Knight aka Kenny
Me!
- Jim Connolly
present, but not for long.
- Trish Haley
Me.
- Alex Scoble
meh
- WorldofHiglet
Just in.
- Willem (@wim66) ☠
I'm here...listening to a webinar
- Damian Love
I'm here, just stopping by for a few mins.
- Simon Wicks
Over here.
- Kevin Whalen
I think MiniMage is missing
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
'Sup!
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
✔ Hola.☺
- Daniel Rowley
Me, as isual
- Richard A.
from Nambu
✓ useful character, thanks Brian
- Jesper Lind
I am here & not here...you know how that multi-tasking thing is.
- April Russo (app103)
SIR!
- John E. Bredehoft
from fftogo
here
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
What are you going to do with this information? Trying to see how many weekend users there are?
- Richard A.
You can't see me with my Cloak of Invisibility.
- Admiral Anika
me! except i must go to work on my new mancave urinal
- andy brudtkuhl
PSST Anika, you forgot to change the batteries again. WE CAN SEE YOU.
- Haggis (Sean Loyless)
presently on FF ✓ *new character*
- Eric Logan
Uh, Anika? I think there's a problem with your cloak...
- Jandy, ConcertMaven of FF
10-4
- Brian Appleby
here
- BCK
Bill
- Bill Romanos
Dangitall to heck! There. NOW you can't see me. Especially when I do...this!
- Admiral Anika
Not here. In Vegas. Out.
- Stephen Mack
Nobody is here.
- Robert Scoble
here i am.
- Jeremy Kunz
There and here
- Gaby K. Slezák
word
- Jamie
Present.
- © b e e n s w a n k
hola.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Finally up and here
- Sandra
I'm baaaaaa-aaack.
- Martha
on and off
- ♥patricia♥
I'm here!
- Nicholas James
Yo
- Robert Hafer
✓ There!!
- Praveen Vasudev
Present!
- imabonehead
Present
- James Myatt
Present and accounted for, thanks for asking!Here
- Christian (Simply X)
Here, but not for long.
- Brome
here!
- Alp
me? I'm here
- Kelly W.
Hello? Is this thing on?
- Jesse Stay
What's next?
- Amani
Yo!
- David Cook
wass up!
- Mycaptain
I was here, but I have to go work now. :(
- Steven Perez
Here!
- Neal Jansons
present
- Parth Awasthi
Yo!
- Hamish MacEwan
here, there, and that's everywhere...
- Bob DeAmbra
me!
- Merry Xmas FFeeders - AJ
HERE!
- Joseph Ferris
from fftogo
me too
- Reese Jones
Tardy, but present. There's no FF detention right?
- Jeffrey Marsh
Jeffrey, I'm sure we could make a detention room
- Jesse Stay
This is an autobot, LPH will be back momentarily. Please hold the line.
- LPH™ and his dog P™
Hello
- alexandere
(clears throat)
- Bryan R. Adams
here
- tomit
Jesse, hmmm...if there were to be a FriendFeed detention room/group...what would it be composed of? I suppose the most annoying components of 'social media' (for lack of a better term)...Britney tweets maybe? I know if there was Facebook detention room I would toss those darn quizzes in there..."so if you were a US President you would be John Adams huh? Imagine that..."
- Jeffrey Marsh
Always here.
- Louis Gray
Off and on throughout today. I'm fighting my yard.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
✓
- Jay Neff
What's FriendFeed?
- Mike Nayyar
FriendFlush?
- mjc
✓
- Majento
I am not here.... ;o)
- Rob Sellen :o)
hey hey
- Mattb4rd
not here but you can leave a msg
- Ryan Miller
from Nambu
I'm vaguely here. ;-)
- Kol Tregaskes
✓
- Mickey Mellen
Here
- George Hall (Australia)
Present
- Mark Traphagen
✓ here i am ..
- CantorJF
*raises hand* Here, sir!
- Larry Hudson
Present
- Gregory R
hello...
- Zee.
here now - snowboarding earlier...
- mike "glemak" dunn
a little late, but here
- Raphael, Raphael
not me
- Mistletoe Glen
Here
- TheHenry
+Vincent
- Vincent Wright
I wasn't but I am now
- Charlie Anzman
always :)
- Jaica Kinsman
I'm back, did stop for a few hours of sleep
- Richard A.
better late than later :-)
- Dobromir Hadzhiev
still here.
- Randy
Are we planning to recycle this thread daily? In any event, I'm in here.
- © b e e n s w a n k
Sooner than later is better than not at all!
- Michael Krigsman
If Twitter is Netscape, who is Microsoft?
Thomas Power, мрачное готическое говно, Peter Renshaw and 16 other people liked this
Google.
- Robert Scoble
Facebook?
- Jeremy Brooks
yeap ! Google !
- Rocky
Google
- Trad Robinson
IBM?
- Steven (optionshiftk)
still Microsoft?
- Matsis
Facebook
- Louis Simoneau
AOL?
- Charles Fenwick
If we're talking about the web browser space as the metaphor basis, then we're looking for an established behemoth who is second to market. So for microblogging it could be Google, or Microsoft. But if we're talking about search then the metaphor doesn't hold because Netscape wasn't trying to overpower Microsoft's browser.
- Kevin Fox
Geocities
- Johnny Worthington
Kevin, Scoble knows I think it's Google cause we talked on the phone about this today. I think Microsoft lost its ego when Gates left the building. They'll do fine without another bout with the DOJ. Google however won't go gracefully, and Twitter is leaving too many openings for them not to take a shot at them. Question is do they know how to do an Embrace and Extend? I think they do if they listen to Vic G. Joe Beda probably has a clue too. But then Facebook has the old Firefox team, they're really smart.
- Dave Winer
But I think for Facebook to produce a Twitter, they'd confuse the hell out of their users, and they have so many more users than Twitter, they can't really afford to do that. Where Google starts off with 0 users in this space. They can do whatever they want without disrupting any of their users.
- Dave Winer
And don't forget Charles Simonyi is a space cadet now. Literally! :-)
- Dave Winer
If Google is really concentrating on Android, Latitude and other location-based stuff, then maybe it doesn't need to be a Microsoft-style market-dominating 700 tonne gorilla if it can monetize those services via advertising. Just in the same way that the TV networks made tonnes of money in their day without any one company dominating the marketplace. What's the point in 90% market share if you're not making a profit from it?
- James
But Dave, Facebook already is Twitter-like. What do people do on Twitter? They update their status, they post links to stuff they read, they post links to vids and music they like (or don't), they have conversations. Gasp! That sounds just like FB. Sure, there's all this other shit you can do on FB, but that's cuz it has a broader view than "what are you doing right now and say it in 140 characters." So if Twitter is Netscape, FB is its MS.
- Dread Pirate PJ
And if I may add... who will acquire MagPie - twitter or Google? http://twitter.com/davewin...
- Ankush Narula
But then if Microsoft is Google - who is Google?
- Nicholas James
Nicholas, excellent question. If history repeats, we won't know for a while. Twitter's challenge is to escape the mediocrity of being a tech wunderkind, and mature quickly enough to be excellent as Google was when they came on the scene.
- Dave Winer
SkypeBook
- Bob DeAmbra
facebook, which ironically microsoft has invested heavily in
- Peter Warnock
Is this question a result of Twitter having a great idea, some buzz and an early lead but ultimately not executing well and not being ruthless enough?
- Paul M. Watson
Facebook for sure.
- Vijayendra (V-Mo) Mohanty
My first thought was MySpace.
- MiniMage TKDteacher of FF
Friendfeed is Twitter and Twitter is Microsoft
- Steve Gillmor
facebook, no question
- kosmar
Funny, nobody mentions News Corp. Never ignore the gorilla in the dark corners.
- Shoq
Steve, what FriendFeed features do you think Twtr/Doug Bowman couldn't implement in 3 weeks, if market or vision warranted? I can't find any.
- Shoq
Twitter *ISN'T* Netscape. It's either AOL or MySpace. But I think FaceBook is Twitter's biggest rival now. Twitter is becoming a cesspool of banality and irrelevant babble.
- Chuck Shotton
to me, the only guess is friendfeed. i believe that twitter's reign will be pretty short
- Kirill Bolgarov
To answer this question there has to be a good guy and a bad guy. So I pick Facebook.
- Kevin Gamble
Microsoft is Mosaic :)
- CantorJF
twitter is not netscape - netscape was based on quality tech from its earliest days and when they had issues they improved them iteratively - twitter is nothing like netscape in this regard...
- mike "glemak" dunn
FriendFeed is Microsoft to your Twitter is Netscape.
- Diego Barros
Bigfoot is the rest of us. Anyone can set up a status feed or micro-blog. Big or small.
- tom murphy
Oh, oh, the celebrities are coming to friendfeed soon, according to LA Weekly - http://blogs.laweekly.com/style_c...
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But we'll always be the cool ones for finding it first
- Alan Cheslow
Too late. I claimed this couch.
- Bwana ☠
damn, well, was nice hanging with you all for a moment or two :(
- chaz2b
This should really help bring FriendFeed into the mainstream much like celebs helped boost Twitter's profile.
- Paul Jacobson
Yeah - we get to follow the amazingly deep insights of Britney Spears!!!
- Jim Connolly
but will they get on the recommended users list? ;)
- guruvan (Rob Nelson)
LOL @ Bwana :D
- vijay
*yawn*... next thing you know, my clients will come sniffing around, then my RLF. sheesh....is there no place safe to be left in peace anymore?!? <g>
- Laura Zickus
It may be too geeky for them here
- Bob Morris (polizeros)
polizeros: you actually think most of them do their own tweets? Heck no.
- Robert Scoble
Jimmy Fallon is on FF
- Outsanity
Everytime I hear Jimmy Fallon I think about the family guy episode where they mock his laughter in the middle of sketches http://www.hulu.com/watch...
- Bwana ☠
Where will we go when that happens? Identi.ca?
- Jesse Stay
Jesse, they're will probably be a new service that will entertain us although, FriendFeed is probably the best services I've used so far.
- Nicholas James
Still confused about why the "highly controversial FF avatar" is highly controversial.......
- Chris Rogers
Is my mom here yet?
- Mark Traphagen
ff ftw
- Giraffes Up In The AIr
Awww man. Is it time to move onto the next social network? But I was liking FF.
- Manuel Arroyo
Hey cool. The first time I've ever gotten to write "I'm Thomas" in the L.A. Weekly!
- Thomas Hawk
Will they actually join in the community or just broadcast their own material? I realise there are many different ways to use social media, but interaction is key.
- Steven Cains
adding "O.G." to my name
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
What celebs?
- bnoise
They can have twitter, Facebook, etc. but not ff. Maybe we can fool them into trying Strands instead!
- Michael Fidler
Luckily, FF lets me put people in a list if I chose to. I would think getting/giving 'celebrity' follows would be much more feasible in this kind of setup...
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
I don't see the fuss here. We already have "celebrities" here on FF (John Cleese, Wil Wheaton, Jonathan Coulton, Jimmy Fallon, et. al.). All they are doing rebroadcasting their other services, using this place strictly as a life stream. I imagine the "bigger" names will be doing the same. If they don't interact, they don't exist on the service, as far as I'm concerned. I'm over it.
- Helen Sventitsky
Just like with Twitter it'll separate into two camps - the celebs that "get it" (MC Hammer, Shaq) and actually use the service - i.e. comment/like - and the ones that have their interns (eh hem Ryan Seacrest) post to their feed. The internet calls bullshit on the latter VERY quickly.
- alexia tsotsis
Your right Helen, I was just kidding around. Now, I now where to find the LA Weekly too!
- Michael Fidler
they are easier to ignore on FF than on Twitter
- andy brudtkuhl
When the celebs come, we'll have to create a secret, complex, nearly unusable web service as a final refuge. We'll call it BetterThanYourFeed or something, and take turns spamming it with threads about the purity of its metadata and why it's better than everyplace else we used to spend so much of our time. We'll tell FriendFeeders how stupid they are, and how having gigabytes of pure binary information shot up your ass with a fiber optic cable is how the smart people do it. The meds should really help.
- Chris Baskind
Celebrities can takeover twitter, but they won't takeover FriendFeed!
- TheHenry
But we already have Scoble, why do we need the other celebs? Anyway, what appeal is there in engaging/chatting with a controlled celeb account?
- Winston Teo
Winston - Kudos!
- Jim Connolly
oh no run to the hills the celebs are coming
- Kim Landwehr
Who cares, as long as the lifestyle users stick around.
- Richard A.
What!!?? Abby, you *haven't* heard of AcquaintanceHub (tm) (r) ?? :)
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
@Chris BetterThanYourFeed ftw
- Pat Hawks
I really don't think they really need/want discussions after their posts.
- Gianluca Neri
from twhirl
Does that mean hardcore spammers are following close behind?
- Joe Mescher
from Nambu
@Joe: I hope not.
- Amy H.
They better contribute. :D
- Steven Perez
that's what block is for ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Robert - There goes the neighborhood!!!! LOL
- Susan Beebe
What do we do about the people who just import Tweets? Seems kinda lazy no? Like the celeb feeds with no @ replies - there's nothing lonelier than a one way conversation.
- alexia tsotsis
The Prime Minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd, has a Twitter account that is usually quite boring but he surprised me a couple of days a go by @ messaging the hosts of a radio show that he appeared on.
- Peter Kelley
"What do we do about the people who just import Tweets?" what do we do? um, ignore them because they aren't truly participating? what else would you do? round them up and run them out of town?
- holly
Can we have one place PLEASE without Celebritys .... Sheesh ..
- johnpiercy
You do. Simply unplug.
- Chris Baskind
On the bright side, ghost writers will lower unemployment numbers.
- jcunwired
What do you want to bet that Mona falls all over Kevin Bacon. :)
- jcunwired
@johnpiercy as soon as people stop congregating in a place and being 'audiences' heh. Also, world peace.
- Eric Rice
see there's one already, that "eric rice" guy is a celebrity right :-p
- mike "glemak" dunn
/me signs your chest, mike
- Eric Rice
that's why i always carry a sharpie ;)
- mike "glemak" dunn
Oh Good ... now the Paparazzi are gonna be following FF around ...
- Charlie Anzman
Not a chance.
- Leo Laporte
we'll go hide on Bulletin boards
- Jeff (the マクダジ of FF)
you'll know the sh*t has hit the fan when they hit up usenet. oops... wait not supposed to talk about it.
- P.A.
I don't think so either Leo. Twitter is a tool developed for those with the attention span of a gnat. FF is for the rest of us.
- jcunwired
+1 P.A. Also, I hear Jason Calcanis has begun using something called an "e-mail newsletter." Exciting stuff!
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
those LA people, always trying to hollywood up the place :)
- sean percival
oh shit, @P.A., it's Friendfeed's eternal September!
- Eric Rice
We're in no danger of imminent invasion by the "unwashed masses." I love FF, and it's technically superior to pretty much everything out there. But it's too challenging in its current form to compete with a mass appeal service like Twitter for users. That's probably fine. Depends on FF's business plan.
- Chris Baskind
@Chris, What's challenging about FF? People are always suggesting there's something difficult about the way the service works; I just don't see it. You log on, you read things, sometimes you leave a comment or hide something or like something. Adding items to your own feed involves two button clicks. ATMs involve more tech savvy!
- Soup
++Chris, two times. @jcunwired I'm sure. // Soup, I think it's more on the user's productivity, simply sending tweets and interacting on FF is really two different levels in my eye. I think it's more about the management methodology, letting people down, not able to work as fast because they need to do more per second.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
@Zu I suppose the difficulty would range according to the number of incoming feeds, although that would be true of any other social media service. To me FF seems easier and more organic than Twitter; FF provides more of a jumping off point for discussions while Twitter is...I don't know, a random collection of thoughts that often would be better off left in someone's head. Whenever I log onto Twitter I experience a 'Crap, what now?' moment - that doesn't happen for me on FF
- Soup
Yeah, what Zu said. Most people have only the foggiest idea of what an RSS feed is, so explaining how to import theirs, filter those of others, and mine for data is really going to make FF an uphill climb for them. Then again -- my 10 year-old daughter managed to create an account with no help at all. So some users can jump in and grasp it as she does (as a message board). These people, however, will be plenty satisfied with Twitter's feature set, and they'll find more of their friends on that service.
- Chris Baskind
I can't imagine it with celebrities here.
- Andrew Trinh
@Soup & Chris, so true on the random collection of thoughts. I'm also having that instance in a part of my mind. Like reading Classified Ads. And on the accessing the service, my 15 year-old brother understood how to open the account and everything, showed him how an RSS feed was key to this, but he doesn't have friends with his interests: lost user. If the message board/Dynamic RSS viewer concept was in place, then twitter would be sufficient for such a user.
- ElijahBailey-Zu of FF <0,
OMG we're all finished
- Thomas Power
Let them come, and check out the FFundercats podcast while they are here. :)
- Josh Haley
It's be just like Twitter, though. They'll have their assistants do all the writing, or like some I could name, insist on telling us what they're eating that day. I thought a certain famous director might be interesting to follow on Twitter, for example, but he isn't (still love his work).
- Stan Scott
It'll be a while before they get here. FF is not in that stage of its life cycle, Twitter is. Will it happen? Yeah, but remember, Twitter had a good three years (if not slightly less) before it took off.
- Brandon Mendelson
There are some Hollywoodish celebs on FF already... and I don't mean pushing tweets here. They post directly on FF. You just need to look for them.
- Ari Herzog
Status.net Could Point to the Future of Business Intelligence http://www.readwriteweb.com/archive... (open source, hosted Twitter type service)
Bob DeAmbra liked this
Would you trust your financial future to a company who can't spell "concerned" correctly in a banner ad?
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Seen in an ad on a Reuters story...
- Louis Gray
In a word? No.
- Derrick
No.
- Anne Bouey
funny:)
- Igor Poltavskiy
Nope. That's ridiculous.
- Aaron Hood
If anything, I guess this proves every once in a while I look at ads.
- Louis Gray
that's pretty bad
- BEX
I don't trust anything to any company just based on their advertisements. Adverts let me know of the company, further research lets me know of how the company actually performs compared to their competitors. In this internet age, anything less is just stupid. If you don't have time to research, maybe there should be a business that would research this stuff for you. Just talking in general here. I've actually been thinking for a long time about setting up my own research business for people.
- Ⓐ ☠ slayerboy ☠ Ⓐ
I think Louis is just pointing out a funny ad, rather than making a financial judgement for his investment needs. BTW: good find Louis. I see ads like this in Hong Kong often.
- Vinko
The last financial institution that spammed me, I CCd every. person. on their employee contact list and told them to take me off their mailing list LOL
- Mona Nomura
Id be more concerned if I was their agency... chop chop
- Nigel Walsh
Apparently they misspelled their URL: surely they meant "myWelth.com" :-)
- Richard pancakhaus Walker
Wow..that is a really bad ad. How can you misspell something on your advertisement especially if your in the financial sector.
- Nicholas James
Eh, it's ok. They spelled financial right.
- Pete Delucchi
Imagine how they could manage stimulus money
- Russ Jackson
I can haz welth?
- Mike Reynolds
lol, signs point to not a chance
- Keith - @tsudo
Not really. Aren't they paying attention?
- Rahsheen ™, Coach Rah
There are ad campaign engines (saw one at WebInno, Boston recently) that let you mess around with different texts in the same graphical ad and experiment to see what gets the most response. Your typo can be exposed to thousands of people instantly!
- Bruce Lewis
Apple uses a jailbroken iPhone in patent application (via @ginasmith888) - http://www.engadget.com/2009...
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Not included in the Twitter Search beta? Me neither. But with the new Power Twitter, who cares? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US...
Nicholas James, Sylvain Nadeau, Daniel Rowley and 5 other people liked this
Power Twitter is cool. Can anyone even imagine where Twitter will be in two years?
- Bryan
Pretty sure this is the NYT "firehose" feed they were talking about last week. The feed calls itself a river which is imho a more accurate description. - http://friendfeed.com/nytriver
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I can't access this. Friendfeed says it is a private resource. Is this on purpose?
- Zaki Manian
Hmmm. No not on purpose -- its an imaginary friend.
- Dave Winer
OK, the link should work now.
- Dave Winer
Why is 'facebook' in the feed url?
- coldbrew
There's a speed bump in front of my house. When the Fedex truck drives by sometimes packages fall out the back. The URL was in one of those packages.
- Dave Winer
Why Is Change So Hard for Some People (Especially Older Ones?) | Collaboration 2.0 | ZDNet.com - http://blogs.zdnet.com/collabo...
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Because for many of us, after 50+ years of experiences, we tend to stick with the comfortable patterns and routines and avoid circumstances that complicate our lives.
- Jack (a.k.a. Jeber)
David Pogue writes about Twitter in the Times Tomorrow http://www.nytimes.com/2009...
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Great article. Anyone who is just starting out on Twitter should read this.
- David Wilson
We're all Catholics^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H validated now.
- Dave Winer
I got scented trash bags by mistake - much prefer the smell of trash.
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In a way it is a bit sad, really
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
another interesting way to look at this also might be that there are an awful lot of people on digg and reddit who like getting high.
- Thomas Hawk
I can only see the upside. This has gone on for far too long for the silliest of reasons.
- coldbrew
perhaps, but is it really the most important thing the president can do to improve the country?
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Though I agree that decriminalizing marijuana is something that should be done it is very sad that people believe it is the most important thing Obama could do to improve the country. The priorities of people sometimes frighten me.
- Sidney
I wouldn't imagine Obama is only capable of doing one thing at a time. I realize there are more important things to be done, but many of those will take quite a bit of work (healthcare, economy, etc). Anything that increases freedom is worthy in my book. It could also be a significant source of tax revenue, which could help the economy as well.
- coldbrew
Legalize it and tax the crap out of it. Could be the economic stimulus package the US needs. (Not joking)
- MVB (Grinch of FF)
I didn't know it was up to the executive branch of out government to decide one way or another. Isn't it the individual states and all of their elected officials who continue to enforce the prohibition?
- Christopher Harley
Thomas; I can't believe Digg users like getting high, their comments section doesn't seem relaxed enough (though they certainly have the paranoia).
- Steven Cains
I think the people who dismiss this as unimportant have no grasp of the scale and scope at which drug prohibition destroys lives.
- Anthony Citrano
While I can't speak for Digg and Reddit on the whole, I've personally never smoked a joint in my life and have no plans to, yet I'm a staunch advocate of ending the war on drugs and ending marijuana prohibition in particular. Supporting legalization has nothing to do with getting high, and everything to do with logic and facts.
- Eric P
+10 Can I go higher than that. Not get higher. lol
- Michael Fidler
Anthony can you elaborate on how drug prohibition destroys lives?
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
One way to look at it is that the prohibition causes the price of drugs to skyrocket, so that drug lords get obscenely rich. With that money, they buy arms, with which they commit mass murder, like in Mexico currently. Legalizing it would make the market collapse and dry up their funding.
- Victor Ganata
There are so many arguments for the removal of marijuana prohibition laws. Not the least of which, that would certainly signal to me that Obama is for change; just having him behind it would demonstrate a no-bullshit approach. What exactly are your arguments for retaining said laws, McCord?
- coldbrew
I just wanted to know how this destroys lives coldbrew.
- Paul L. McCord Jr.
Paul, imagine yourself being thrown in prison for any length of time because you were caught smoking a joint or possessing marijuana. What would it do to your life?
- jcunwired
Not exactly, Christopher. Marijuana is a federally restricted substance, which is why people who have legal medicinal marijuana in, say, California can still be busted by the DEA for drug possession.
- FFing Enigma (aka Tina)
Given the large number of people behind this initiative, i believe it is your argument that needs substantiation. Rather than asking others to substantiate their claims, I would argue you need to make a claim, or multiple, and back it/ them up.
- coldbrew
I don't think many people are for legalizing all substances. Marijuana is one thing but harder drugs are another. The number of drug dealers that Victor says "get obscenely rich" may dwindle but they will certainly still be there. @coldbrew: I disagree that it is the anti-drug legalization community that needs to substantiate it's claims, considering that the laws are written by the majority and if the majority wanted legalization then lawmakers who supported that should be elected, that's the idea.
- Brandon Titus
Paul: one million Americans will be arrested this year for nonviolent marijuana possession. The convicted will carry a permanent criminal record (and will forever be convicted felons in some states - good luck with that job search). Many will serve prison time (the urban black ones will, anyway) and be eternally barred from receiving any type of federal student financial aid. Sorry, Paul, but if that's not likely to blow a kid's socioeconomic lights out, please tell me what is.
- Anthony Citrano
Canada is on its gradual journey towards legalisation of marijuana,from what I've read about their Mounties not treating possession as a criminal act, thereby freeing up resources to deter and prosecute real criminals. Alcohol and tobacco are, in my opinion, far more dangerous in terms of the harm they cause, even though they are legal and heavily taxed in most countries.Too many people are getting their lives messed up by the legal system in the USA, just for using their relaxant of choice. Live & let live
- Siddharth Deb
The fact it was only ever made illegal because of america trying to make more money (got greedy) through the cotton trade...they forced other places to make it law, we in britian were the most reluctant to do it...yet we did...stupid move. The fact it has PROVEN medical benefits is also a big thing.
- Rob Sellen :o)
Yes, Rob, cotton had to win out and now marijuana continues its second act, front and center in the prison/industrial complex.
- Christopher Harley
Why did cotton have to win out? greed.....??
- Rob Sellen :o)
It's funny that an issue like this got pushed to the top of the list of priorities for Obama to address upon coming in to office. A poster above (Sidney) commented that this is sad as there are so many other problems to address. Agreed. Probably many of the supporters of this initiative don't have their minds on the big issues but just want another way to get intoxicated legally. I'm actually in favor of decriminalizing the substance but this issue is way, way down on the list of priorities I have for Obama
- Gale Stafford
Why are we pretending that the president can only pursue one thing at a time? Obviously, the economy and the wars are front-and-center right now. It still does seem that people don't make the connection between the "War on Drugs" and institutionalized racism in this country. Maybe as a person-of-color, I'm biased, but the fact that the prisons disproportionately harbor first-time drug offenders with brown or black skin does seem to be a problem on par with the health care crisis to me.
- Victor Ganata
I think this proves that the internet is not ready for prime-time democracy. First, we need to remember that the numbers here are a very small and skewed portion of the total American population. Second, there is no control here to prevent people from posting the same thing more than once, or has been pointed out, the effects of a site like Digg. While this makes a really great headline, I think the more important thing for government to remember about the change.gov site is to consider the source.
- Kenton
Exactly, Victor, what I was trying to say to Paul (just above ya.) I'm not saying it ought to be the top priority, or the only one, but we're witnessing a fucking genocide here (marijuana, crack, etc.), and no one seems to care. It's constantly dismissed us just those damn stoners who want to get high....
- Anthony Citrano
Now that I think about it, "The War on Drugs" and health care are actually pretty interlinked, too. We really ought to be treating non-violent addicts as patients and not as criminals. It doesn't help that poor minorities basically have no access to mental health care.
- Victor Ganata
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In case it isn't obvious -- McCain fucked up. He should have gone with Romney.
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I hope so. Then again, it's just about all they have going on. What a boring convention scene tonight! This may invigorate the base in a way that nothing else has yet.
- Bob DeAmbra
It's funny to see their banners at the GOP Convention b/c it looks like it says "McCain Pain '08"
- Larry Kless
McCain and the Republicans face the prospect of an endless mess about Sarah Palin -- the L'il Abner soap opera is going to grow more lurid and divert attention away from all substantive issues. At some point they will notice that they are looking ridiculous.
- Sean McBride
He needed someone young to counter his weaknesses as told him by his PR men, the fact he'll be dead soon. Nothing to do with actual policies of the individuals involved.
- Mark Edmondson
Mitt Romney was clearly his best choice, but the Christian fundamentalists who have destroyed the Republican Party blocked that move.
- Sean McBride
What's great is how McCain is refusing to acknowledge complexity - Bush Deux (doh)
- tom matrullo
I'm not so sure. This is playing VERY well in huge parts of our society. Let's face it, it only looks idiotic to those of us who were going to vote for Obama anyway. To the other side of the fence? She is just like them. She has that base energized and that's very important cause now they'll make sure they turn out and vote and they feel they have something to vote for, instead of just against Obama. The ones this decision put into play? Moderate Republicans and independents. How many of them are left?
- Robert Scoble
What do you base that on?
- Dave Winer
Also I should explain. Having just returned from the DNC where the speeches were coordinated and they connected with each other, and led to a finale that was truly inspiring, the Republicans are acting more like Democrats, with a cacaphony of confusion. All the focus is on the #2 position, and that's a problem, esp if they should happen to win!
- Dave Winer
He should have gone with Barney, a large purple dinosaur as the #2 that is the way forward!!
- Joe Dawson
Remember, that after the election comes (gulp) governing. Someone is going to have their finger on the button. How they make decisions is very material to our future quality of life (or lack thereof).
- Dave Winer
Dave: I used to be a fundamentalist Christian, remember? These people vote the ticket and have since the 80s.These people approach life like a sports fan does. My brother Ben is one of them. I'm sure he's overjoyed with this choice. He doesn't listen to rational arguments.
- Robert Scoble
I agree with Scoble. People I know who are far more conservative than I am are very pleased with the Palin choice. The foibles don't bother them so much, because there's plenty of people with those views who have endured foibles personally or known people who have. Especially people who were more likely to sit the election out, feeling disgusted with the whole process, now feel they have someone who at least reflects some of their views.
- Justin Long
You said "This is playing VERY well in huge parts of our society" and I asked how do you know. You said you know because you used to be a fundamentalist CHristian and your brother Ben is happy. Well, that isn't huge parts of our society, that isn't even huge parts of your family.
- Dave Winer
Dave: how many fundamentalist Christian Republicans watched the Democratic convention? They might have seen it the way a sports team does -- that the other team is playing better so they need to step it up.
- Robert Scoble
I agree, he's got to be insane to choose a woman.
- Mike Lewis
Robert, not sure I entirely agree. Many of my moderate and independent friends who were leaning towards McCain are now not doing so, because they see it as a hypocritical decision after he spent all summer arguing Obama's lack of experience then picking someone even less experienced. The HRC fans who were going to vote McCain are telling me they cannot vote for a conservative fundamentalist who believes in creationism. But that's the liberal NE crowd. In Kansas and the heartlands it might be different.
- Sally Church
McCain VP pick : Dead upon arrival : This is no longer a contest. McCain fumbled the ball, and there is no time left on clock. Obama takes the knee and wins the Game.
- imran
Dave: well, after this week, I'm sure we'll have some polling data to study. Of course I'm basing my opinion here on my knowledge of how many religious people think. The real interesting polling data will come after the debates. If minds are going to be shifted, it'll be there.
- Robert Scoble
for me, his pick is a good indication of his decision-making process. Obama does extensive diligence. McCain shoots from the hip in a few days without all the facts.
- Travis Parsons
imran: as much as I'd LOVE for you to be right (and Winer too) I'm very concerned that McCain has jumped back into this big time. When I visited DC a couple months ago even Republicans were telling me that Obama would win. That's changed.
- Robert Scoble
+1 Robert
- Kyle Lacy
Travis: how many here are evangelical Christians? Will anyone admit to it here?
- Robert Scoble
http://www.cookpolitical.com/node... - For what it's worth, the Gallup tracking poll of 2,730 registered voters conducted Aug. 29-31 shows Obama up 6 points, 48 percent to 42 percent, while the CNN/Opinion Research poll of 927 registered voters shows it at 49 percent to 48 percent. Take the average of the two and you're close to the 3.5-point advantage that Obama has averaged for the past three month
- Justin Long
I'm a evangelical Christian and I voted for Romney in the primarys for the state of Michigan.
- Colide81 (James)
I am a Christian, though I typically don't like to use the "evangelical" term as its bandied about in the modern media (which uses a somewhat different, more politically-loaded definition than the traditional "evangelical" understanding).
- Mistletoe Glen
Justin: those polls don't properly reflect the impact of the Palin decision. The polls to watch will be those in a week.
- Robert Scoble
See also http://www.cookpolitical.com/node... for a pretty indepth analysis on why McCain didn't pick the others. Ridge, Lieberman: no-no for abortion. Romney: too rich, too many houses. Pawlenty: unsure why no here. Its an interesting analysis.
- Justin Long
FWIW, I think McC pretty much had the evangelical vote before Palin. The right wing of his party warned him that they'd create a stink at the convention if he chose Lieberman, so he caved and picked Palin and they're happy, like your brother. But whether or not that does him any good remains to be seen. He was gaining on Obama pretty seriously before the conventions, and that was based on the celebrity campaign which is washed up now.
- Dave Winer
Brian and Glen and Colide: does the Palin choice make you less or more excited to vote for McCain? Emotionally. Not rationally. Politics isn't decided rationally. It's more akin to team sports.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble: Yep, the article makes that clear. They are "for what its worth." Which isn't much...
- Justin Long
Robert: Polls will show dead heat, rest of the way, maybe even McCain leading by few, but come election night, Obama will have comfy win. McCain was first beaten by Bush and now by himself.
- imran
I'm an evangelical Christian, but not a fundamentalist. The two DO NOT equate, typically.
- Justin Long
He let Obama off the hook by choosing a celebrity of his own. That's why I thought Romney would have worked better. It would have fed the story that was working. "We (the Repubs) may be boring, but we know how to run things" whereas Obama gives a good speech and is pretty (never mind that Romney is pretty vain himself)."
- Dave Winer
Dave: I really hope you're right. Let's say you are. Did McCain just take one for the country? Here's alternative thinking. By giving into the Religious Right and, if, he loses, like you say, he might have known he was doing that. Next time up the Religious Right will have far less power in choosing a candidate because anyone who wanted to win would say "we went with your decision last time and it was rejected."
- Robert Scoble
@scoble I'll admit proudly to holding a faith that would be labeled as "evangelical" but I would also quickly add that, for me at least, there are many excesses that are a direct result of "evangelicalism" becoming a sub-culture in this country that I reject.
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
also I'm voting for McCain simply because I don't want Obama in the White House I don't care about any other issue.
- Colide81 (James)
I had a conversation with some guys in NC that may qualify as "evangelical." we discussed Obama's speech at DNC. First response was "I'm not sure about Obama's background.. his support of Muslims and the Wright stuff." Not saying this applies to all people.. but there are certainly some strange responses to Obama out there and they are probably very widespread.
- Travis Parsons
Lawrence O'Donnell explained it pretty well this morning on MSNBC. He was a writer on the West Wing, and he said Palin is like Glenn Close who appeared in one episode and made a big splash, but that was it. Imho, McC would have done well to endure the wrath of the right wing, and moved to the center. Romney would have been a good compromise. No excitement, which is fine. And they might have lost, but it would have been close. I don't think it'll be close with Palin. Again, imho.
- Dave Winer
Dave: I really hope so. By the way, I just gave another $100 to Obama because of Palin. So she is energizing at least some on the left side of the fence. Now we have something to vote for (Obama) and against (Palin).
- Robert Scoble
it is interesting to look back at the comments at the number of times terms like "they" and "them" are used with regards to people of faith/evangelicals/fundamentalists/christians etc - its as if the individuals who fall into any one of those tidy categories are some sort of bizarre Area 51 dwelling alien creature that many of you are gazing at in wonderment through a glass window - I know that many of you do not mean to convey that but that is what makes the Red vs Blue chasm so wide at times
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Do you guys really think, in the final analysis, that the VP pick will be THE deciding factor? For me, the VP is interesting... but I wouldn't say the VP is a deal breaker. Bigger issue, to me, is the candidate's positions and their perceived ability to actually get something done despite not having majorities in Congress.
- Justin Long
the Palin choice makes me more excited because it shows he listens to his base and in return I will fight harder to elect him.
- Colide81 (James)
Marco: when I attended an Evangelical Christian church for more than a decade you wouldn't believe the number of times I heard the same language used to describe non believers. You have a good point, though. It +is+ divisive speech and it's something I have to fix in my own head.
- Robert Scoble
Justin: the VP is more important to McCain because of his age. My mom died when she was 66. McCain is already past that and it certainly does play in my head as being a more important issue with McCain than with Obama. Although, I should treat them equally. People can die at any time and that's something that we don't like to think about, but should. Either way, Obama hired more experience than he had, McCain went with far less experience than he had. I think that says something.
- Robert Scoble
See, I think that's one of the reasons why the soap opera won't affect the conservative base that much. It's not *her* so much as what she *represents* - that the candidate is listening to people who back him, or at least they perceive him to be listening. their voice is heard, and so they are willing to make their voice heard through a vote. but those who are not interested in speaking to mccain feel very different feelings.
- Justin Long
Justin: exactly. Most people approach this as a team sport. Palin is one of them (oh, sorry, there I go again using that divisive language).
- Robert Scoble
On the horse race aspect, two comments: 1) We're still in the most volatile perios of the election cycle, polling is of little utility. Wait till next week when the dust settles. 2) Palin seems to have fired up the right wing base, but (and it's early to tell), at the expense of independents and moderates. Doing the former worked for Bush because party identification was at rough parity. Right now the GOP has a ten point deficit in that regard - McCain needs independents a lot more than the base.
- Eric P
Yes, the VP is important, because he's old and also because it gives us an idea of how he makes important decisions.
- Dave Winer
Robert: the selection of Palin, on a purely emotional level, does make me more interested. But NOT because of her evangelical Christian background; that, in fact, tends to be a negative in my book. One of the problems IMHO in our culture in general is that we want to be able to "label" people; someone will say, "Glen's an evangelical Christian, therefore I know exactly how he thinks." That bigotry, like racism, allows us to avoid connecting on an individual level.
- Mistletoe Glen
@scoble ready for this bombshell? (I CAN'T believe I am about to post this) I went to Bob Jones University for 3 years so I have grown up surrounded by the exact same type of language - I am far FAR tougher on people on my side of the aisle (no pun intended but I'll take it!) - the "we" vs "them" mentality is the biggest gripe I have with not only people from the religious circles I grew up in but my political circles as well - I'm am going to hit send before I delete the part about going to Bob Jones ; )
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I've reading he energizes basethrough some of the comments. The real issue is McCain's judgement in picking Palin when there were so many other women in the Republican Party that would have been much better. And yes Palin energizes the base but he has to reach to far more people then just the base.
- Paul
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So those who are not voting for McCain feel the VP selection is important due to more rational reasons - age, decision-making, hypocrisy of charges. But those voting for McCain feel the VP selection is important for more emotional reasons - that they are being listened to. or perhaps those are a different form of rational reason? two different takes, and the reasons why the soap opera will turn off those who are opposed to him, but not affect very much those who are pro-mccain?
- Justin Long
Oh well Marco. I'm presently serving as a missionary in Asia. And the interesting thing to me is how many missionaries don't like the divisive language either, and how many of them are having what would be to some surprising electoral leanings!
- Justin Long
Glen: if you study 100 evangelical Christians they will vote more Republican than the overall population. Yeah, not everyone will, but enough will that it's important as a voting block. Same for unions and other subgroups. Heck, more technology and science minded people will vote for Obama, but not all of us will. Justin: that's my read on it too.
- Robert Scoble
Scoble: I'll proudly be lumped in with the Christian crowd. I'm more of a reformed Christian, less of a fundie. Anyway, I'll say that before the VP announcement, I was voting for McCain, because I fear for an America with someone like Obama at the helm. Now? I'm happily voting for McCain, because I'm excited about the future of the Republican party now.
- Trevor Carpenter
Until recently, I feared the Republicans were headed toward a moderate form of the Democrat party. Now? I'm actually excited that we may be able to repair it from the damage caused by the neocons. (Trevor=hates neocons)
- Trevor Carpenter
Thanks for the great and thoughtful exchange, guys. Nice to have one that is (mostly) flame free :) But its 11pm where I am, and I'm going to bed. Look forward to seeing the rest of the comments in the morning--and doubtless we made ffholic.com! :)
- Justin Long
Trevor: are you sure you're not actually my brother Ben? Sounds like the same. He won't vote Democrat no matter what.
- Robert Scoble
lol Trevor Carpenter meet Sean McBride - Sean McBride meet Trevor Carpenter (said in the most joking and cordial way Sean!)
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
I just want this to be over and Obama Wins White House, Biden fixes world relations, Obama will give us great economy and undo Bush.
- imran
I do wish someone would do something to get the dollar back up in value. That plus the rise in prices due to the rise in oil has been killing us. Well, not literally, but you know what I mean. The dollar has lost a quarter of its value while a lot of prices doubled in the last 2 years.
- Justin Long
Robert: FriendFeed doesn't allow long enough comments, so I followed up here: http://blog.broadpool.com/2008...
- Mistletoe Glen
I think more that we might be afraid to own up for getting flamed. I personally don't usually mention it when I'm in normally tech-heavy areas. It's usually a waste of my time. But tonight's conversation has been great. (See, I'm still up, even when I said I was going to bed.)
- Justin Long
obama messed up by picking someone so obviously in the pocket of lobbyists.
- Tony Kanzia
The lower your intelligence and the less your education, the more likely you are to be a religious fundamentalist. The higher your intelligence and the greater your education, the less likely you are to be a religious fundamentalist. In other words, religious fundamentalism correlates closely with stupidity and ignorance. There are exceptions, but this is the main statistical trend. It...
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- Sean McBride
Jim lerley: I wanted to demonstrate to Dave Winer that the choice of Palin has energized his base big time.
- Robert Scoble
Sean: you would be shocked to hear how often that line was quoted by the pastors at my church (when I attended in the 80s). It's used as a dividing line. Sort of like "you don't need to be smart to be accepted by God" and "don't get too smart cause you might not get into heaven" kind of mind thought warfare. But, again, we're all behaving like this is a sports team. Not going to get us anywhere. I'd rather talk about technology and science and how our innovation is going overseas. (Watch my latest video).
- Robert Scoble
lol @sean I don't think I have had an interaction with you yet that I haven't enjoyed (being 100% sincere) - have no doubts in the statistics you cite but we are now in a very fuzzy zone of defining "religious fundamentalist"
- Marco(aureliusmaximus)
Marco - religious fundamentalists are very different from religionists (especially moderate religionists). Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu and other varieties of religious fundamentalists all tend to share the same set of psychological traits and behavioral patterns. They tend to be intellectually lazy, poorly educated and believe in the literal truth of a "sacred" text. They are highly suggestible to cultism and cult movements. Sarah Palin is a religious fundamentalist.
- Sean McBride
I've said this before on another post, but I'll reiterate my outsider's (Canadian) opinion. The "average American" does not debate on FF, does not watch the conventions closely, does not read as much as possible in order to make an informed decision, etc. The "average American" was responsible for getting GWB elected TWICE. As far as the "average American" is concerned GWB is just like them and Sarah Palin is just like them. Sarah Palin is an asset to the McCain campaign. Obama has an uphill battle.
- Kenton
Interesting, I have just heard from 2 christian conservative, Reagan loving Republican friends (their own description). Both wanted Romney for VP. One is staying loyal to the GOP, the other is switching to Obama but not telling his wife!
- Sally Church
Brian: my mom belonged to a cult up in Montana. Church Universal and Triumphant. I went up there and did a story on the cult (now a more legitimate church, but in the early 1990s it was a huge news story because they were building bomb shelters and preparing for an upcoming nuclear war). Nearly everyone I met had a college degree (including my mom). Funny thing, though. They couldn't keep kids there. They saw through it all and didn't like all the stupid rules and chanting.
- Robert Scoble
Don't you wish more people were loyal to America than their political party?
- Todd Hoff
Jim: most religious folks I know don't admit they are religious online because often they will be attacked. That's what I was getting at.
- Robert Scoble
todd: most people who are fanatical supporters of their political party see themselves as more loyal to America than the other party's supporters are. Look at the Republican themes at their convention for a great example of this.
- Robert Scoble
Jim: Time Magazine named her one of the top five Governors in the nation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... and I don't see the kinds of stuff that she's supported that would get her ire. What do you think is attackable about her?
- Robert Scoble
Todd: Here, here! Robert (on todd's comment): I agree with you. Admittedly, I feel that way. I see the liberal left (Democrats) yearning for the US to be more like Europe, in every way. I see the neocons yearning for who knows what. I see the legitimate conservatives (paleoconservatives)(me), as yearning for a return to a true America, one not twisting and destroying the Constitution, but leading a nation the way it was intended.
- Trevor Carpenter
@Robert - You make an interesting point about how our innovation is going overseas. It is due to high taxes and high regulation. California has been losing businesses for years because of this (http://tinyurl.com/58uvb9 article from 2004). AAA will move their call centers from California. Which candidate do you think will be able to stop the movement of jobs offshore? This requires lower taxes and less regulation.
- Chris Mayer
@Robert, I'm an evangelical Christian. Who's obviously late to this discussion :(
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@gregorylent which is why it's become my number one news source (and yours, too, I gather?)
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