There's a great shot of Katy Bell NOT swallowing champagne on like page 10 or something. It's from the Laughing Squid 13 party. Ha! The caption is priceless. As is Katy Bell. - John Hell
I feel the same way about my GoogleReader. If I leave it alone for a day or two, I have the most amazing amount of feeds to read. - Colby Olson
Yeah, but actually, the insanely high number of unread items in a way cured me of spending way to much time reading my feeds every day. Now I just check some that I like and leave the rest. 'Mark all as read' is your best friend. - Bearded_Dave
It's locational. Check it out. The site will tell you more. I don't travel much so I guess it's not great for me, but a lot of people seem to love it. - Andrew Dobrow
I'm also checking it out. Still undecided, though. But yeah, it's locational microblogging. - Bearded_Dave
Brightkite is location, plus notes, plus photos... and now, it's FF compatible! - Lucretia Pruitt
Cool. I'll have to stick myself on the invite waiting list - Soup
Does anyone else think that the ideas around Spore is very similar to the game in the book "Oryx and Crake" written by Margaret Atwood? I think they are virtually identical... Anyways, it looks like it will be a fun game to try out. - Jon-Paul Bussoli
I went from thinking that FriendFeed was a rather boring looking link overload to having it be my #1 site as well. Took about 72 hours. The potential here is really intoxicating. - Steve Isaacs
Try using rescuetime.com and you can actually measure this. Really cool data result. - Christopher Sacca
it is my homepage... but I find I use twitter to feed it still. btw rescuetime.com asks for a credit card. f#(% that... please don't promote that here. talk about a waste of time. like a dumb ass I del.icio.used it before realizing it was a piece of shit - AnotherⓃⓄⒶⒽ
Rescuetime does not ask for a credit card unless you are buying it for your enterprise. The personal version is entirely free. - Christopher Sacca
facebook is so long to upload with all the apps, friendsfeed is so quick and useful…
Look like that between myspace/facebook/google battle, herecome the Outsider Friendsfeed, so exiting, it will relaunch web 2.0 sites - Marc Dahan
Yes, now the name of the game is apparently being the preferred intermediary to Friendfeed and other social aggregators. For me, it's http://twhirl.org which fronts end both services I care about most (FF & Twitter>) - Dion Hinchcliffe
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I'm not looking for a site on which to spend more time; I'm looking for one that aggregates what I need to know in one spot. - Francine Hardaway
I like FF a lot. Twhirl is slightly hardert to use for some reason. - Michael VanDervort
How do people using FF deal with Twitter friends who aren't on FF? Read both? I see there are "imaginary" friends, but does that mean manually importing and updating your Twitter friends on FF? - Greg Beck
Best way to deal with FriendFeed is through the browser. The clients make it seem more cluttery. - David Risley
Nothing beats using the browser. Clients are slow and sometimes unresponsive. - Winston Teo
oddly David you are right, but if you'd asked me a month ago I would have disagreed. For some reason FF works better on the web where as Twitter is via desktop client - Duncan Riley
yesh, i hope there's a google search box.. I also installed duncan's script - Raymond
Me too, its my start page and clients do suck, btw is the friendfeed air client done? - Kyle Weller
I spend much more time on Google Reader than Friendfeed because of superior signal to noise. - Sean McBride
I am baffled as to why anyone would think that Friendfeed is remotely competitive with Google Reader for processing highly strategic cutting edge information in a slick and efficient way. The potential is there, I can see that, but actualizing the potential is going to require a great deal of smart code and ranking algorithms. Also, am I the only one bothered by this "forum" interface? It's like trying to play Rachmaninoff on the piano while wearing boxing gloves. - Sean McBride
I think Reader and FriendFeed are useful for entirely different reasons. I use Reader for aggregation on news source and research material for those areas I track. FF enhances that information stream by personalizing some topics, and by giving me an entirely different personal stream . I often have both open and click back and forth betweem them. - Michael VanDervort
@MichaelVanDervort: I use Google Reader not only to aggregate high quality news, research and discussion, but to PRIORITIZE it. With GR I get a continuous stream of intensely concentrated strategic information. So far, after fiddling with all of FF's options, I have not been able to duplicate that experience here. Also, it is easy to use GR in tandem with Yahoo Groups, which provides much more powerful tools for in-depth forum discussions than is available in the current iteration of Friendfeed. - Sean McBride
FF may not be Reader, but it still retains that element of subscribing to others. And yes, FF could be Digg or google News, but its besides the point. GF is Reader in steroids because not only do we subscribe, but we comment, like and manage the noise interactively- none of which Reader does. And we wouldn't want it to since Reader is excellent at what it does. - Roberto Bonini
Just about every time I visit FriendFeed there is another piece of brain candy to consume (or, more applicable perhaps, subsume). I haven't had this much enjoyment since the web started up. - JodyUnwired
I have limited time to spend on these things every day. I find I indeed am spending a lot less of that time on TechMeme and Google Reader lately and a lot more of that time on FriendFeed. I still use the other two, so they are still important, but I have cut way back. - Robert Scoble
To RS: and where, amidst the flood of tweets, does one find time to mull over carefully constructed books, dissertations, journal articles, conference papers, patents and the like, and think visionary thoughts? - Sean McBride
You know, I'm complaining about certain issues with Friendfeed, but I'm here, I'm hooked, I feel the gravitational pull of the thing. Something important is happening here. - Sean McBride
I have a tough time deciding where to spend time - My Google Reader or Friendfeed - Kapil
True - I'm the same, within 2 days I've converted from reader to friendfeed. I like it a lot! - Richard Bradshaw
Stealth growers seed or plant on land that doesn't belong to them. The result? Plants that beautify or yield crops in otherwise neglected or vacant spaces. - Bearded_Dave
s/o with poor impulse control and boredom. don't know anyone who bought one, though. - Bearded_Dave
I've bought a Tag Heur at an airport store, but that was only because it was cheaper (duty-free) then the one I saw in the shops about a week before. - Timothy Neilen
"By forging a partnership with Disqus, FriendFeed users could comment on FriendFeed items, and have comments also post to the originating blog, just as other services, including Fav.or.it and Plaxo have implemented. Combined with the recent introduction of video comments from Seesmic, and the above conversation with SezWho, you can see Disqus' strategy develop, to be open to partnerships of all kinds, establishing their service as one of the most versatile, almost default, in the nascent comment replacement market." - Louis Gray
this would make disqus an invaluable partner for bloggers worried about or interested in retaining relevance in the conversation, regardless of where it takes place. - Morgan
it doesn't belong to the content generator but i'm sure they want to stay relevant to the conversation and this would help them do so without chasing it down across the internet - Morgan
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a lot of times the conversationm isn't even relevant to the original post though - Tyler Gillies
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Disqus is really shaping up lately. New API that doesn't use Javascript (I am 99% sure it doesn't) to display comments coming out soon which will allow you to still get the SEO back on your comments. With FriendFeed integration, Disqus will be huge - Bartek Gniado
i think including images in posting on FF really increases traffic - Tyler Gillies
Daniel Ha confirmed that "two way" integration with FriendFeed was coming in a reply to a comment I left on the Disqus blog about a month ago - see the bottom of http://blog.disqus.net/2008/03... . When this feature appears, it will mean that if I reply to a comment on FriendFeed for a blog which supports Disqus, it will show up back on the originating blog too - that's a massive step forward. - Ian Betteridge
"conversation doesn't belong to content generator." No, but doesn't the content generator have a right to be part of the ongoing conversation? And this feature facilitates that. - Ian Betteridge
Disqus integrating with FriendFeed would be nice, but if they had a "complete" API, then anyone can get into the game. Their API is really close to feature complete, they only need a few more tweaks. - Rob Diana
I use FriendFeed to join in the conversation, not have the conversation join me ;-) - Stephen B
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Hey, now there are three comments! :) - Bearded_Dave
It might be related to the fact that you've never left any comments here either (at least when I posted this your count is 0)... Got to give some to get some! - Lindsay Donaghe
Shannon, looking at your stream here: http://friendfeed.com/rycaut it's almost 100% twitter. Many people block twitter. So you'll need to add new services to get more visible to more people who will then comment and get this more active. - Louis Gray
How big is your network? You've got Thomas, so that's a great start. We're seeing the things he Likes or Comments via the friend-of-friend feature. Welcome to FriendFeed! - Hutch Carpenter
the best way to interact is the FF raw message share. most of the long comment threads i've seen were started with this type of message - Tyler Gillies
lurking and occaisional posting is not an effective strategy - Nailed Jello
Here's another comment for you - I have to agree with Louis, I don't see much that you've posted to comment on, although I'm glad that has now changed. - Melissa Chang
What could also be a factor is that you aren't engaged enough for people to notice -- you have only 1 comment. Just like on Twitter, folks aren't going to follow you back if you aren't actively participating. - Shey
Thanks for the comments but I still don't see how I would have known about them (or for that matter how to hide anything twitter included). Perhaps there are some aspects of FriendFeed I simply don't get but I'm still not getting what people are liking about it so far. At present it is mostly random noise from my friends (and when I'm moved to comment I've often already either replied via twitter, shared the post via Google Reader, or left a comment directly on their blog (or written about it on my own blog - Shannon Clark
Comments? You look at your page and you'll see the comments. - Robert Scoble
Shannon, you'd have known about the comments by coming here to the site. Clicking on the "me" tab will show you all the comments you've left. My advice is to try hanging out here for 48 hours and you might start to get it. You have to give to get though. Participation is key. You can use the "hide" feature to hide individual items or types of items. Read this blog post here for more on hide: http://www.louisgray.com/live/... - Thomas Hawk
it can be absolutely maddening at first, but you start getting the kick' soon - bvs
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wow... you sure find out who ur active friends are.... I love online birthdays. I just subscribed to all my well wishers. Happy Birthday to y'all too. - AnotherⓃⓄⒶⒽ
From where do you access such a specific feed on FriendFeed? - Chris Farrugia
@Joe, I think Raoulpop said that you needed to unsubscribe and then resubscribe your Flickr feed to enable the import of favorites. - roel
@Joe Like @roel said, but I've also found there is a little bit of a delay on when the favs appear in the friendfeed stream. This is really getting to be my most used part of friendfeed, to see what other people fav to discover new photos and photogs. - Jeremy Hall
Watching your Fav stream show up in FriendFeed has actually gotten me to Fav more photos. Having that show up in FF seems like a real bonus. - TranceMist
Heh, I had forgotten I was even streaming to this account. Thanks. - Tim Cooper
@Chris Farrugia, just click through on the link above and you can access a stream of all flickr users on FriendFeed. I go through the stream and look for interesting publishers or favers and then add them as contacts in FriendFeed. - Thomas Hawk
I didn't even know I _could_ favorite photos in Flickr until I saw it happening on here. - Jordan Hofker
Same here, it's a great source for photography and I really want to get more into it now seeing what others are sharing! - Joe Dawson
@Jeremy Hall How long is this delay? I am waiting nearly 24hours. I agree this is one of the most interesting parts of FF. Thanks. - Scott Kuperus
I've found that faves show up sporadically on FF and never include more than 25 faves. - Thomas Hawk
If you want your faves to show up instantly you can refresh your FF Flickr feed manually. - Ole Begemann
Yep, I just wish to be a better photographer before the Thomas Hawks of the world see my flickr postings! :) - JodyUnwired
I love the favorites too! What a great way to get exposed to new stuff. - Brian
TH - thanks to you for sharing your images, I always start a blog post with an image from someone's favs. - Dave Hussein Martin
oddly enough, I have just been going back through my jaiku account to see how it is over there. they may not have the users and community that Twitter has, but it sure feels smooother! :) And with Google behind it, I'd say they can scale it :) - kosso
The thing I like about Jaiku is that while it functions like Twitter, it's much easier to follow conversations. Comments to your posts show as comments, not an @reply 3 pages down, where you may never see it. Another plus is that there is no need for services like Twitterfeed as Jaiku can pull the feeds itself. The things I don't like are the time it takes to pull in certain feeds (sometimes hours) and the fact that there isn't as much activity over there. - cmiper
Wouldn't this be the right time for Google (given Twitters technical problems) to open up Jaiku and pull/win people over from Twitter? - Gabriel N.
Agree with cmiper. I wrote about Jaiku in July of last year (http://www.raoulpop.com/2007/0...), and have been using it since late spring in 2007. I loved the feed integration, back before FriendFeed even existed, but the polling times for feeds were and still are ridiculously long (sometimes days, not hours) and there's very little activity. You can go to my Jaiku account and see for yourselves: http://raoul.jaiku.com/. - Raoul Pop
e has a history of buying tools / companies then simply letting them languish and ruining them (jottspot anyone?) - Jaiku is just another exaple of that. Google might be getting too big to be as nimble as they used to be? - Soulhuntre
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Google has a history of buying tools / companies then simply letting them languish and ruining them (jottspot anyone?) - Jaiku is just another exaple of that. Google might be getting too big to be as nimble as they used to be? - Soulhuntre
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It was mentioned in another FF comment thread but go to http://JaikuInvites.com for jaiku invites. I got mine within an hour of my request - acedanger
soulhuntre - don't you hate it when twhirl refreshes and you lose part of your comment, press enter and post it and then realize it's f'd up?! anyway - I used to get excited when Google would buy a "useful" service and then get disappointed when it stagnated for a year or so... - acedanger
Yeah, it is farily frustrating(that twhirl thing) - it shoudl suspend updates while I type. Google is not the universal saviour it's rep has it pegged as frankly - they blow it on a lot of stuff. - Soulhuntre
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Twitter ... I couldnt get used to jaiku for a reason - Alemsah
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acedanger and soulhunter, I have brought the refresh issue to Twhirl's attention twice: once through Twitter and once through their support forum. The only response I have received was, "That shouldn't be happening. We'll look into it." Well, thanks, but I know it shouldn't be happening. It seems to me this is a critical bug worthy of its own maintenance release. It also appears that since Seesmic bought Twhirl, bug fixes and updates are much slower to come out. - Gregory Pittman
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@Soulhuntre Google also has a history of buying companies and turning them into wild successes. Not every acquisition works out as intended. Jottspot was handled poorly but it hardly constitutes a pattern. - Kevin D. White
I only joined a couple of days ago but didn't like the UI and found Twitter to FF easier to play with. It doesn't make finding your existing friends easy. - Sally Church
I like Jaiku but people have chosen to use twitter - if I leave twitter I leave my community and join one that they may not want to be involved in. I also agree about the feeds they are slow. I also agree that Google will offer a very stable service. But truth is - twitter is where everyone is at and the service that they have chosen - so more happens there. BUT recent problems associated with twitter may just change the playing field. Everything will hinge on how long it takes them to "fix" things. - Dave Gray
I have some 20 invites for jaiku, leave your email on my channel. I'v read all these comments from ff mobile, works great. About jaiku, jaiku was doing feed integration from any Rss feed when FF was still a tought or a dream, they have been silent since the Google acquisition, but i have the feeling they where they are going.. - Ben Borges
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I have some 20 invites for jaiku, leave your email on my channel. I'v read all these comments from ff mobile, works great. About jaiku, jaiku was doing feed integration from any Rss feed when FF was still a tought or a dream, they have been silent since the Google acquisition, but i have the feeling they where they are going.. - Ben Borges
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Weren't Google accused of much the same behaviour - buying, neglecting and letting an acquisition wither on the vine - with Writely ? Then, eventually, Google Docs emerged. Hope the same is true for Jaiku. If anyone can integrate with gMail, gTalk, gReader, iGoogle tightly and provide a performant, scalable service, it should be Google. - Andy C
Actually I trust Google's ability on integrating their acquisition than other company. Jaiku should integrate with Gmail so all email, IM and messaging go under one roof. - Leon Ho
Personally, I prefer Pownce to either of these services. I really like the ability to share files as well as text. - Tim Finucane
To twitt is just to scream out in space, when writing on Jaiku people engage you. - Tomas Seo
Tomas Seo, do you think it's because there are relatively few people on Jaiku? - Dewald Pretorius
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I would have rated Pownce above both services, mainly for its ability to file and photo share, and also to post to groups of contacts, but the service is horribly slow and following threads is next to impossible. - cmiper
cmiper, that just shows how difficult it is to scale these services - Dewald Pretorius
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Dewald - I agree, but then right in the thick of it, Pownce upped the file upload limits to 100MB (from 10mb) for non-paid members and 250mb (from 100mb) for paid members and also added the ability to show those files to the public, increasing the amount of hits/download/bandwidth on the system. Seems as though they should have worked out the issues before adding to the cause IMHO. - cmiper
sues, but the noise / bandwidth problem gets insane. - Soulhuntre
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@Nzben is responsible for this crazy conversation. (he prompted me to start it in email). Thanks! - Robert Scoble
Okay, after seeing how gigantic the Jaiku vs. Twitter comment threads went, I'm giving it another shot: (http://BeardedDave.jaiku.com/). I tried it out a while ago but it somehow seemed like empty space, compared with what is going on on FF ;) - Bearded_Dave
Robert, come to think of it, is asking "Jaiku vs Twitter" actually a valid question? After having looked at all three services, I think Jaiku leans far closer to FriendFeed in purpose than Twitter. - Dewald Pretorius
I was gonna say something but this pretty much hits the nail on the head "Robert, come to think of it, is asking "Jaiku vs Twitter" actually a valid question? After having looked at all three services, I think Jaiku leans far closer to FriendFeed in purpose than Twitter." - william douglas watson
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invite-only strategy when you are in competition to twitter = lose...via feedalizr - bvs
“Does the "like" button keep things positive? Does it keep you from "liking" things that may warrent attention but you dont want to neccessarily want to be assosiated with liking it? For example "Eating Puppies" the world should know about such horrors, but you dont want to "like". Need Coffee.”
I've been evolving my Friendfeed usage as I get move involved in it: I currently use like as a content recommendation mechanism to let my subscribers know "Hey, this is something Mark Trapp finds interesting. Check it out." and using comments for more selfish, "I want to respond to that," reasons. If there's a story about eating puppies and it's interesting, I'm liking that. No shame. - Mark Trapp
I've felt the same inner conflict. I'm afraid to appear as if I am supporting content if I "like" something when really I found it interesting. Perhaps I'll grow some guts and adopt Mark's approach - Jennifer Leggio
@Mark That's how I use it as well. But I'm curious of the subconscious effects on a population. If it could cause the community to trend towards sharing more positive information, and if that is the intent. - Not Not Geoff Schultz
One story that seems to know no bounds with "like" self-guilt is that story about the father killing his child because he/she fell in love: I must see that story pop up on my feed 3 or 4 times a day since it first was published. What do we as a Friendfeed community need to do to make stories like that not come up 20 or 30 times? - Mark Trapp
Hence the need for block/content management preferences. We can't manually control it because sometimes people are just simply bookmarking, Digg-ing, etc. But if there were options for "do not show me this story again" in any feed, that would be ideal. But it seems that FF is not that intuitive. - Jennifer Leggio
That would be ideal Jennifer. Feature like that could really improve the experience. - Not Not Geoff Schultz
I find myself just commenting *highlight*. Instead of liking, especially when the story is really morbid :| - Shey
The father-killing-daughter story was the first one I felt weird about 'liking.' I dugg it instead, which of course made it pop up again. All in all I use that feature a lot, but I wouldn't mind it being replaced by a star, like Google does it. In general I use 'like' the same way Mark does, I guess. - Bearded_Dave
Isn't "Hide" what Mark and Jennifer are looking for? - Jason Wehmhoener
Jason, I can't "hide by topic" (yet). I can hide by service and person, but then I'm hiding everything else that person does, too. And that doesn't hide future feed postings from other people (which is what happens as the story makes its rounds), so it still appears on my feed. - Mark Trapp
I think they are more looking for a way to hide all occurrences of the story.from all sharers. - Not Not Geoff Schultz
Jason - It's more than hiding. If we have a content management/blocking system then we're able to hide a story permanently - regardless of whose feed it pops up in. Right now we have to hide it multiple times. There's a TON of redundancy on FF. - Jennifer Leggio
It's true, you do have to hit "Hide" multiple times. I'm not sure how the redundancy could be avoided though. (Just trying to think through it on a technical level, and coming up empty) - Jason Wehmhoener
As mark posted it serves the same purpose for me, to guide my followers to a flavor i like and that they may like. But more so it serves me for a bookmarking tool, instead of resharing friends content and making things noisier, i will like content, and at later date come back to FF to view it. - Mike Fruchter
I think it should be renamed to "notable" or "flag" or something. - Phil Glockner
Jason - There has to be some way to filter feeds by headline name. Generally if we Digg or del.icio.us something it shows up exactly the same in everyone's feed. Perhaps there's a way to base it on language. Then the question arises - do we miss conversation? - Jennifer Leggio
@jennifer: this is a good point. I've seen the same item coming up as dugg, greader, original blog post, etc. each with its own string of comments. - Bearded_Dave
I guess you could "hide by phrase" or "hide by keyword" but it would be tricky to use. You'd have to try to be general enough to catch variations on what you want to hide, but specific enough to avoid hiding things you might want to see. My perception of Friendfeed's interaction design is that they're trying hard to make any action you might take "simple" as in: doesn't require much thinking. This makes FF quick and easy to use. - Jason Wehmhoener
Definitely quick and easy to use, but in the long-term as it grows they need to think about content. Currently there is not a spam/bot/troll problem but there will be soon. Scoble suggested we have to all manage our own feeds for that. That would be tiresome. I think that's more critical than a keyword filter but I think both will be important for power users. - Jennifer Leggio
FF for me is a a digital archive and life stream, so i don't worry to much about what people think of my likes or dislikes. On the other hand I'm a little cautious as well as to not create "Noise on ff", this is what twitter is for :-) - Mike Fruchter
Jason, Google News, Techmeme, and Read Burner all are smart in terms of how they group stories; they're pretty accurate with the groupings, too. Friendfeed could implement something like that: give top billing to the first instance of a story, then have a line (like it has for likes) saying "45 similar stories..." - Mark Trapp
Mark - That is an exceptional idea. So if you want to see the other convos, you can go to them but you're not overwhelmed. - Jennifer Leggio
I tend to be a little obsessive about details, so it grates on me to use the "Like" link when I don't like something. :) Even though I know, logically, the real purpose for that link is to influence the prioritization algorithm, it still says "Like" so I feel bad about clicking it dishonestly. - Kenneth LeFebvre
Merging any and all ff posts which have the same target URI would certainly cut the redundancy. On the "like" thing - if I find a story unlikable, but still interesting, then I'll just comment. If it's likable, I'll like it. - Slippy Lane
I use the "like" link to mean "interested in" - because when I "like" something I know that (a) it shares it more with others, and (b) it shows up in my "me" tab, so I can follow discussion threads easier. It doesn't mean I actually *like* whatever action or topic is displayed. - Bruce Williams
Argh, this is one of those posts where I just feel very queasy hitting the 'like' button. Anyone else knows this dilemma? There, I just dug it. - Bearded_Dave
I had this dilemma when I first saw it in someone else's feed. Hence why I del.icio.us'ed it rather than liking. :-/ - Jennifer Leggio
yeah some of them are crazy. In canada , Mississuga, a father strangles his daughter to death. Reasons- she removed her "hajab" while hangin out with friends. She was 16 yrs old. I cant understand how people distort religion to such a degree !! http://www.nationalpost.com/st... - Peter Dawson
I see similar stories here in the UK on an almost weekly basis. - Slippy Lane
I'm trying to say no. But twitter is too easy and fun! - Shoichi
YEs, much less small, inane stuff. More big entries. - Soulhuntre
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Absolutely. Sometimes there's not enough to justify a whole blog post -- just a snippet of something interesting. A fleeting thought. These can be better captured in Twitter than a “traditional” blog. - Dillon TenBrink
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I haven't blog in a long time due to several reasons being twitter one of them. yet am working on rebranding it as we speak - Gilbert Corrales
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