That's up and to the right. I am now reading almost 30 percent more feeds than I was reading a month ago. Bring it on. And RSS powers everything - not just feed readers.
- Louis Gray
Pubsubhubbub is making RSS even faster. RSS is behind FriendFeed, LazyFeed, and every relevant aggregator. This argument is so silly.
- Louis Gray
Twitter's a great basic RSS reader for headlines and more realtime/'now' stuff. Not ditching NetNewsWire/Google Reader for actual post material anytime soon though.
- BeauGiles
I agree, but RSS could do with a few upgrades here and there though (I just want to comment on blogs straight from the feed itself).
- Hugh Isaacs II
Couldn't agree more. Sure, it might turn into more 'plumbing' for many users, but RSS is far from dead.
- Brad Kellett
My headline? RSS: interesting or boring? (Hint @marshallk and @louisgray, we’re not normal)
- Robert Scoble
I never said I was normal. Just that I am kicking ass at my job. :) And that anyone else who wants to ought really read feeds. imho
- Marshall Kirkpatrick
Agree with Marshall (and Scoble). I believe the best information producers are those who consume lots of information. Know your craft and use the best tools.
- Louis Gray
Marshall: you can read the feeds. The real news lately is being broken in Twitter. But I'm glad someone reads all those feeds so I don't have to!
- Robert Scoble
The signal to noise ratio in feeds is 10x to 100x better than Twitter, though. Even if you do prune your list of Twitter folks (as you have), much of what is there is not news-related.
- Louis Gray
Twitter is the news ticker. If you rely on the ticker to inform your opinion of the world... Good luck
- Johnny Worthington
from iPhone
I had no clue why anyone would use Dave Winer's Twitter OPML tool to get all tweets from friends via RSS. But I tried it anyway and discovered that it's easier to find the really relevant stuff when you get tweets via RSS. I can skim through 1,000 tweets in a few minutes and separate the signal from the noise much more efficiently. And, of course, it's all searchable in GReader.
- Dominic Jones
I'm with Louis on this. RSS is far from over. Like Louis, the number of feeds I'm subscribed to is on the increase, too. Services like Lazyfeed and Toluu are making it far easier for me to discover great new content.
- Andrew Terry
RSS is critical to the growth of the social web, and is growing quickly. It will eventually be replaced by friendlier, less protocol centric technologies that shield the user from the mess that is ATOM/RSS etc.
- William Toll
completely agree. google reader is a great feed reader and is getting better GUI wise by the week. great avenue for syndication via friendfeed
- James Butler
from BuddyFeed
Taking into account that Im far from been an expert, I want to leave a thought. What if the way of use is simply different I mean, ok twitter is real time while RSS has some minutes delay, but in any case if I receive 900 hits/day I will not be able to read them all as they come so I dont see the problem on getting some delay.To me is just a question of leaving the noise on Twitter as is much more quick to read and pass through the news & info and get the selected ones on RSS for better storage and record.
- Luis Guijarro
RSS needs a proper comment API, so you can fetch all recent comments on all posts in one call from a blog - with threading if the site supports that.
- Richard Cunningham
That particular person was serving up link bait
- Dave Hodson
Dave: links are dead. Or so says the same person (Steve Gillmor).
- Robert Scoble
I stopped using Google reader a couple of years ago and I now just read it in the stream with my Twitter, Facebook, Flickr mixed in (in FriendBinder [disclosure: I wrote FriendBinder]) I'm not sure why other people don't do something similar.
- Richard Cunningham
Stuart: life streaming is a headline with a link. For the most part.
- Robert Scoble
Google reader is a great tool...if you keep it to only important and feeds that matters to you
- testbeta
louis agreed I love using google reader. great tool.
- (jeff)isageek
I love RSS and losing it would change how I work (and play), but I really wish it would be more mainstream. I work in technical sales and I bet <30% of that group even uses RSS day to day. I bet for the non-techies it is closer to 10%.
- Bill Grant
Love RSS and Reader both, my feed reading is rising day by day!
- Ahad Bokhari
I can't seem to stop reading. Anyone else using Feedly in conjunction with Google Reader?
- ronnieledesma
RSS is an essential part of many things now. The argument is irrelevant and though I'd never say they were wrong, they are misdirected or trying to get a reaction. :)
- James Stratford
I use FF, Twitter and Google Reader for different things. Twitter and FF are far more about Buzz and the conversations around the topics. In Reader I aggregate many different original sources together. There is less need for it to be on-the-spot live, but it needs to be deeper and more detailed to be of value, and it is. They serve different purposes for me.
- Robert
Lately, I've been dumping select Twitter & FF feeds into Google Reader, as well as Posterous feeds, so even though I'm using all of these services, GR has now become more of a hub for me. Also: gReactions gives me a sense of how popular a feed item is. I would wish GR would incorporate these kinds of services so I could get more metadata about a feed item.
- phil baumann
Ughh, no, I believe the RSS is dead mantra arose from the real time Twitter phenomenon, however, us smarties know you gotta verify your sources & our attention spans MORE than the space of 140 characters. Catch that, the dual use of metaphor...attention "spans" MORE...As per myself, I read more articles via RSS feeds than ever as well.
- sofarsoShawn
So am I but not in Google reader, I read mine on my desktop in my e-mail program, they come to me, I don't go 'looking for them' I love RSS!
- Sandra Large
Say, don't Twitter streams have RSS feeds? The icon's right there at the bottom of the sidebar...
- Dennis Jernberg
RSS is very alive and well and dare I say, even young. With tech news, there aren't necessarily thousands of sources like with general business news, etc. Where RSS will be big is in who can create the best filters for those larger niches. But the RSS readers we have today don't support all the features we'd need to create those filters. Google Reader management taps out at maybe 1500 feeds in Chrome, the most of any reader that can export opml (not just rss like Friendfeed).
- beersage
I agree that the problem with RSS is filtering. If something changed the way I use the Net was RSS, but now the volume is so great that unless you prune your feeds regularly you can end up with a lot of garbage. Most average users don't have any idea of what RSS is and that's something that can't cease to amaze me.
- Angel B
RSS & EMAIL are not dead. They are getting better and faster. PUSH tech can push anything. Push Email on mobile devices is just as fast as twitter. And now we are going to PUSH RSS/ATOM. Twitter is different, yet the same. Sure, maybe a news headline will break first on twitter but will I see it before I see it in my inbox or reader? Prob not because I'm not frozen staring at a twitter...
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- sull
yeah apple pull your finger out... waiting months for updates is just stupid. there should be a 2 track system for new apps approvals and updates. sheesh
- Weird Shanghai
I only hope they start to allow API apps to tie into the iPhone app. Originally they were supposed allow app developers to develop for mobile versions of the site.
- Jesse Stay
I wouldn't oversimplify the "this is why" statement. I assume there are hundreds of reasons to choose FB over Twitter. (Not to mention a few million other reasons)
- Louis Gray
I'm watching Youtube videos on how to emulate Mac OS 9 on an Intel Mac, full screen so I can run old apps for old time's sake, while listening to Chris Pirillo talk about being a geek.
- Justin Lowery
@Justin check out 'Classic on Intel (COI)' - have had luck with it in the past when trying to play SimTower!
- BeauGiles
EB: that's in the queue to be watched next...gotta start on step one of robot building
- Sean Montgomery
researching why the USS Voyager's warp nacelles fold up
- Justin Ruckman
first iteration done, more scrubbing to do, so more perl to write, maybe some awk, peace kids.
- Erik Boles
@BeauGiles I was looking into SheepSaver. I'll have to take a look at COI also…
- Justin Lowery
You're all *nuts* - it's Saturday night, and you (me too) are in front of the computer. <sigh> I'm reminded of my horrible high school art teacher who said artists never have "week-ends." Bastard. Damn fool was right. Substitute "geek" for "artist" and Bob's your uncle - or auntie, depending on how she swings.
- Yule Heibel
watching the syfy channel (alien agent), while surfing the internet and playing the enchanted ds game - half a level to go and i've beaten the game!
- ann glenn
Writing a fiction futuristic piece for my final in Tech in Society class. Cyborgs and robotic secretariats. My favorite line so far is when my main character tells his house bot to go screw a toaster.
- Kenny Rayl
@BeauGiles Oh duh, same thing. Looks like I just finished downloading it.
- Justin Lowery
This weekend geek: robot building...next weekend non geek: Vegas baby....
- Sean Montgomery
and i'm watching the very end of the Seahawks/Chargers pre-season game.
- geoff hines
• The Geekiest Thing? Well — I'm reading micro-blog posts from Robert Scoble! How can you possibly do anything geekier than that? ☺
- Richard Merritt
Watching Anime and talking about the MMA match on Facebook with my Blackberry 8900 through my access point. Only WPA encryption but have a long key and I live in the woods so I should be safe. That my friend is a geek combo :)
- Tony
from fftogo
Reading FF instead of going to bed. Probably should be writing copy of some sort, but this is the time of night where I'll start to babble if I get sleepy.
- MaryB, BrandingBroadOfFF
@Yule H. Having a lazy sunday afternoon over here in Australia - almost 3pm :)
- BeauGiles
Trying to get inspired to design a web site for a client so I can get my geek on. Instead, sitting here reading Robert Scoble's FriendFeed! Much more entertaining... :)
- Laura Zickus
digging deep into xml/css for start-up site... working on new web software that is like a next-generation friendfeed... grabbit.net
- Fred Davis
Building out the infrastructure to setup 500 live web cams across the US to let people like me and you report crimes on the street in real time! (2-5 second delay). Someone starts a fight, cops are called within 10 seconds. 500 cameras are going up by December. 10,000 more in 2010. Yes. it's effing hard!
- Adam Jackson
Using new de-soldering station to repair a bad MB to use in another dedicated system for climate prediction or seti@home...or some other grid computing project.
- Jimmy
On the loosers side: having a drink of JW Gold and reading this at an strippers bar while I wait for the next performance!
- Marco ILLESCAS
from iPhone
Trying to get my LazyFeed /just/ right.
- Shea
from iPhone
...actually, grabbit is really much more than just a next-generation friendfeed... but since that's one of the closest things so far, the comparisons are inevitable... even if they don't do grabbit justice ;-)
- Fred Davis
Did a brand new install of a family tree / genealogy web app, then imported the GEDCOM file from the previous install (which was an older version of the same app: http://www.phpgedview.net/ ). #ShinyNewVersion
- Micah Wittman
...usually I'm the geek of the week every week, so I hope someone is doing something nerdier than tweaking CSS style sheets! Especially on a saturday night! Sheesh! Good thing my GF (@lisapadilla) is a geeky girl, so she understands... in fact, she's nerding out on some grabbit stuff, too, right now ;-)
- Fred Davis
My God, Doc Searls was right, we're all living in Scoble's butt!
- Stephen Pickering
hehe, thx Mary Baum!, really love it so far
- Denverken
Was smoking a cigar, tweeting from iPod touch and thinking about buddha. Does that count? Or should I have also been coding in PHP & reading slashdot?
- Jerry Garcia
yes, Robert's friends all need to get a life! Ha!
- Fred Davis
Reorganizing my iPhone apps, comparing Newstand to free RSS feeds, & researching/pondering the best way to archive my Twitter stream after reading Mashable article
- Alexis
from iPhone
Watching Android get ported onto an MID
- Netbooknews
watching a bad movie with about 15 other people on IRC.. movie is "Frankenstein Island"
- monkeystick
I guess biting the head off of a chicken doesn't count for geeky any longer? Early last century it would have been a huge draw in Kansas.
- Jerry Garcia
I made a red necktie for my Brain (Pinky and the Brain) action figure. Now he's not only not naked, but looks even smarter.
- Fred Jones
Going thru 104 comments on this thread.
- Winston Teo
hmm, watching two long running procs on vm's, running a couple rsyncs to a new terabyte server, monitoring FF/IRC/IM, farming on WoW, preparing two servers with NGINX and i'm always keeping an eye on munin/monit/screen sessions -- but that's not geeky really, just a normal weekend
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Checking frienfeed at a wedding while everone else is dancing
- Jim Goldstein
from iPhone
Sean: thanks, I just wanted to see if something were happening on Twitter that wasn't here.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
I'm writing blog posts in gmail and saving them under the label "Posterous Drafts". And something something circuit board something thermal something capacitor.
- Brett Kelly
zeroing the hard drive of an old G4 that's going to be recycled.
- David Newman
Writing a paper about Artificial Intelligence in Expert systems :D
- Yahya
playing with Facebook FBML and pages (and hating it)
- Keith - @tsudo
Just chilling with an ice cold Bud and listening to a live Jimmy Buffett concert online. And smiling reading all the posts.
- lily taylor
Sitting at the keyboard in my jammies and reading FF.
- Sandra Large
reading FF & shooting my duck hunt background (just 'cause); listening to music on blip.fm; picking out fall fashion (posting to delicio.us/polyvore/blogspot...) & texting my son. Not sure what I would do w/out connection =)
- Charl Pearce
Listening to Bob Seger, Janis Joplin and The Who on vinyl. Guess that would be contra geek?
- John Nissim
trying to set-up Streamy (the "new Friendfeed')
- Bill Powell
Reading friendfeed on one monitor with 50 tabs open and watching the Second Life Citizen's Convention live music stream in Second Life on the other monitor.
- SuezanneC Baskerville
Upgrading my desktop computer to Windows 7
- RobinDotNet
Setting up a Linux server and giving it a static IP address, manually assigned DNS server settings, restarting the networking stack, and pinging the router on my local network all via the command line in the Terminal. Also doing a traceroute from this Linux server inside a virtual machine on my MacBook Pro to my website at www.thebrentcameron.com to see how many hops it takes and the time it takes for each of those hops. So do I win or what?
- Brent Cameron
My idea of optimizing Firefox is by uninstalling it.
- Alex Knight
running macros on my G15 to bulk process 500 kids soccer pictures, while browsing friendfeed, listening to techno on headphones while my son watches star wars episode IV
- Robert Higgins
Making my 4th LEGO city model of the day while watching 2 screens of FriendFeed (main feed + this thread). My wife is on Facebook on our hackint0shed netwbook while my 3 year old daughter plays games on the iPhone
- Johnny Worthington
Watching Conan the Barbarian, quoting far too much of it, analyzing too much of it altogether (like did they get all of the out of work Star Trek (original show) musicians together to do the score? It's way too similar.)
- Lucretia Pruitt
Coding an iPhone application which connects to Facebook, Twitter, FriendFeed, and fetches RSS feeds off the web :)
- Fahim
I dont know if this comes under the "tech" category! I am currently thinking ;-) Thinking if the human mind is really an illusion!
- rampantheart
Taking some downtime from the SLCC as an opportunity to work on writing for my blog.
- Tim Maly
Figuring out if I can get android running on a dell axim.
- Jim Connolly
Scampering between sites/browser-tabs like a headless chicken is hardly geeky but that's what I've been doing this Sunday morning. Google Reader, Friendfeed, Facebook, Twitter, Social Median, Lazy Feed, et. al.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Setting my Ruby on Rails environment up on my new Windows Laptop. I know it's the easiest platform to do it on, with InstantRails, but might install it on Linux, just for the crack :) And checking out the Mosso plans.
- Steve Farnworth
running a twitter experiment #chromeexperiment to see if I could actually replace firefox with chrome.
- Rohit
Writing a custom extension module for vTiger CRM which combines data from two other modules and working on my custom Layout Management & Authentication Libraries for the CodeIgniter MVC framework which I intend to release as open source when complete.
- Usman Bashir
Umm, searching for iPhone formatted porn. Does that count as geeky?
- Keith Bennett
from BuddyFeed
it's unlikely to be me - checking friendfeed while things compile (contributing to a linux distro this week), reading up on vtiger (coincidence? someone is vtigering above), and wondering what's for lunch
- Joelle Nebbe (iphigenie)
Reading Robert's friendfeed updates IS the geekiest thing one can do ^^
- Paul Papadimitriou
from iPhone
And Coffee is the spring of all good ideas :) So it IS geeky :)
- Roberto Bonini
I'm out on this one. Relaxing 'computer off' Sunday planned with my wife :)
- Charlie Anzman
When this was posted? Sleeping. Hows that for geeky?
- DGentry
Joelle: It has to be coincidence what else can it be. :)
- Usman Bashir
changing the links under my flickr photos from my personal website to my twitter and facebook fan page. You've got to go where the traffic is! </geekiness>
- Edward Barnieh
Editing videos from my holiday - not geeky enough - and 8 hours late for this post!
- Martin Bryant
We'll, when this was posted I was cutting some zzzs. Now I'm coding the privacy component for BuddyPress--a nice relaxing activity for a Sunday morning. Hum?
- Jeff Sayre
Compressing and archiving a load of files on JungleDisk, trying to convert a Drupal module intended for use with the Twitter OAuth API to work with FriendFeed, and drafting the OpenStream specification...
- Tyson Key
I'm organizing CloneFeed/OpenFF, the open source alternative to FF. Early stages though.
- Jason Huebel
from iPhone
Geeky/cultural - going through my favorite Woodstock performances on blip.fm.
- jcunwired
....multi-tasking between sourcing UI icons for a new app, scanning FF live feed, coding PHP, browsing Seesmic and now commenting on a thread where i appear not to be geekiest person here on a Sunday. Oh, and now i have too many tabs open in firefox, so i'm using Safari as a fill-in.
- Matthew Ogston
everyon'es working around me and im on friendfeed. lol
- nivcalderon
Browsing Google Reader, Friendfeed best of day, Twitter, Facebook, Digg, Social Median, Twine while copying a video off my Flip & uploading to Viddler... and on my iPhone: getting the Kindle & audible format of a @TedDekker book (Showdown) to take along on my kayaking trip down the Juniata river this afternoon. In the background, Mythbusters is busy figuring out how the Hindenburg blew up.
- Courtney Engle
ohhhh.. i forgot: downloading my entire list of domains for backup before moving servers. Add FTP to the list. and drinking freshly ground coffee in my french press travel mug. The coffee was purchased from a Guatemalan farmer my sister met while there.
- Courtney Engle
A couple of people have mentioned coffee. I just had my tea (I'm not from England). I think that may be even more geeky than drinking coffee!
- Jeff Sayre
I'm singing a song about robots with my one year old daughter ... "Robot parade... Robot parade .... Robots obey what the children say!"
- Trent Hamm
from iPod
Selecting photos + editing videos from the U2 360° Tour - I went to see last nite! Every geek will love the high-tech specs of the tour: http://www.flickr.com/photos... - stunning visuals!
- Frank Da Silva
Reading FriendFeed to see what geeky things everyone is doing
- Cathleen Rittereiser
Backing my computer up to my home network, while using regedit and preparing to install Win7. Oh +Twitter and FriendFeed are running in the background :P
- Aram Zucker-Scharff
from twhirl
I'm backing up The Internet. And storing it in the cloud.
- Micah Wittman
Micah +1!. Better than me - sister in law just dropped of HP laptop with Vista and said "it's slower now." so I get to play with the cleaning of spyware and the uninstalling of a billion little apps that HP feels are so necessary that they should be part of startup just to ensure that it takes a full 5-10 minutes before you can use the machine. But I'm not bitter.
- Michael Pardee
I'm commenting on this post. Can life get more "geeky?"
- Jimmy Walker
I'm crocheting but I don't think that counts. I'm ripping out am old unfinished to use the yarn in a new project. Next up: a slouchy beret using DPNs then circular knitting needles.
- Zulema ◕ ◡ ◕
from iPhone
reading friendfeed and catching up on my rss feed on google reader.
- Fuad Arshad
OK - and now - in English! WOW - I only "get" about a third of the comments! feeling very ungeeky!
- Robyn Hawk
I am wasting my time by writing comments on FF .. it's slightly after midnight in Central Europe now. Shower and bed next!
- Jan Horna
Ditched my wife at the airport to get free wifi. I'm flying virgin she's flying southwest. You snooze you lose LOL
- Jim Goldstein
Trying to decide about paying for Tweet Spinner . . .
- MikeEllsworth
Writing custom PHP code that will pull data from a MySQL database to present a technical class schedule in WordPress.
- Michael Carnell
Ripping Hogan's Hereos DVDs to make H.264 files for later playing on Apple TV. It's good to carry on in comments here as it shows FF that there is a continuing need and use of the FF ways of doing things. If this was on Facebook, I could not send a comment to Robert unless he friended me. Things are just so much tighter and efficient here.
- Keith Rowland
About the only other thing we could ask for in comments, is comments on comments.
- Keith Rowland
playing Ikariam and WoW while on FF and watching Nature
- Heather
Using my phone to Skype, Friendfeeding on a netbook, playing sudoku on my ipod while watching Pulp Fiction.
- MVB (Curmudgeon of FF)
Converting/Creating Direct Response Television Ads to Direct Response Web Video and distribution http://www.directresponsetelev... closing deals before the site is even populated.
- Jim Peake
I think Robert should announce the winners of the contest now:)
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
I believe it worked for Life Force too
- Ron Wening
The code enables developer mode which you need to load in homebrew apps. Check out http://precentral.net for the great catalog of apps being built for the pre
- Luke Kilpatrick
remember the old Nokia phone that you could put into field mode with *5001#12345# and the phone dealers couldn't get it back out. Ahhhhh, geek pranks.
- Erik Boles
BTW, How am I supposed to punch B & A keys? From On-screen keyboard?
- jef
The Developer code lets you put your palm pre into a mode where you can load homebrew apps. There are already 124 apps in homebrew app catalog at http://www.precentral.net/homebre... - its very easy to install them to your pre with just a few downloads here is how http://www.precentral.net/how-to-... - Some really great ones out there for it.
- Luke Kilpatrick
Derrich, the select moves the 'selector' from 1player to 2player so if you leave it out you're going it alone
- Chris Heath
I'm now wondering what that sounds like! Non of my British gay friends sounded like each other - what part of Britain are they from?
- WorldofHiglet
WoH, I'm not sure. I'll be seeing one of guys again this week; I'll be photographing he and his boyfriend soon.
- Derrick
Oh - *that* couple! Do you feel as good about the shoot after talking to them more?
- WorldofHiglet
I do...we have one more meeting this week to talk about what exactly we're going to do, but the Brit half of the couple has worked professionally as a model. My biggest hurdle is shooting people; I'm used to shooting pastries or cutlery. I'm not used to having to talk to the subjects, let alone them responding.
- Derrick
Soon subscribing and following won't matter. Publishing good stuff that people "like" will matter most with the only little advantage in having a lot of subscribers or followers will be that your good content might reach more people faster.
- Charbax
“Under a direct comparison, I would say that RSS subscribers are worth more than Twitter followers,” says Daniel Scocco
- kang
how does growth in google reader users compare to growth in twitter/facebook users?
- Brian Hendrickson
gotta agree. RSS. Twitter is great as cloudthink, but not the best for organizing things. At least not for those with lives that don't involve looking at it all day long :)
- Jorge Chapa
Ask a teenager and they'd likely say they're both worthless and are for old folks. It's all relative and dependant on who your target audience is. I find RSS subscribers to be of greater value, but there is value in the real-time echo chamber of Twitter. The value with Twitter lies in the ability to reach broader audience numbers faster and pull them in as RSS subscribers.
- Jim Goldstein
Twitter is two-way and thus allows built-in communication/feedback. RSS is one-way and does not. I'd have to go with Twitter on this one.
- Jeff Harbert
Followers. It's like writing and publishing a book, selling it, and then nobody makes any comments, or any feedback. Twitter makes that happen, RSS is helpful (I use it daily), but Twitter is two-way. Sorry RSS, but looks like you need to expand your highway.
- Zachary TG
Dave Winer is gonna come in here and smack you for comparing Twitter to RSS
- @baratunde
Interesting article. I think it is a different animal. RSS is passive, Twitter is an active process of conversation. I guess the same has been said earlier in this stream conversation. For me personally, more business has been done in the interaction on Twitter. I also have discovered more new things on Ttwitter than any other way.
- Eran Even-Kesef
part of the "value" is how much you know about your new audience member. a new follower on Twitter/Facebook/Friendfeed (if it's not a spammer) includes useful/interesting info about who just joined your network
- Brian Hendrickson
Both, mostly, the information in a tweet are very interesting but the author would never write a blog post about such a short tought...
- Antonio Correnti
RSS is like a DVR -- you can save everythign to read later. Twitter is real-time, so most people followers will miss your Tweets anyway. It's all about the spiral of silence.
- Steve Lynch
from twhirl
All about the likes... especially when you consider Facebook and Google's future impact on our notions of "following" or "subscribing."
- Sam Harrelson
Like the others... it's RSS. Too much gets lost in the stream of twitter. Even if you don't have a massive network. RSS feeds are there waiting for me. And I only subscribe to the stuff I really care about.
- adam christensen
The question should be about value. What have you given to your readers via RSS/Twitter? You build your communities/followers/friends through giving information/knowledge that they find useful. Twitter is about sharing, not selling. Build trust first. Engage. Both RSS/Twitter work in tandem.
- iconic88
Both have a lot of value and the best/most interesting bloggers know how to leverage both medium. Fred Wilson is a perfect example of twitter, blogging and discuss/comments working in concert to create a very active community.
- Edwin Khodabakchian
Jim: im a teenager (im 17) - i dont think their worthless. i would have to say twitter - why? if you where to stop posting to your blog today, nothing would be sent to your subscribers... right?
- Chris Clayton
I just declared bankruptcy on my google reader and dumped 1000+ unread feeds, that said, I still think RSS is a very powerful way of connecting with your readers. Twitter is important, but more flighty because it is so temporal in nature. Whereas a feed sits in your reader until you are ready to look at it.
- Peggy Dolane
Who cares? As long as the people are active, comment, join the conversation and come back - that what matters. The source matters for statistics. P.S. Came here from a twitter RT :)
- Sasha Kovaliov(.com)
My blog readers pay more than mere followers or even socnet friends.
- Bernie Goldbach
And I thought I heard somewhere RSS was slowly fading away...Or maybe it's time for it to evolve? I would also vote for RSS.
- Zack Brandit
I think a better question is 'RSS Readers or Friendfeed Subscribers: Which are worth more'
- Steven Cains
I've always viewed RSS subscribers as being worth about 10x a Twitter follower. FriendFeed is up in the air because I think the number of people with accounts >>> the people who actively use it.
- Gary
Oh. My. God. Who fucking cares? I agree that Scoble does bring some value to the internet, but all the star fucking and waiting on his next turd is getting to be a bit much, people. For fucks sake, let's take a step back and remember he has to put his pants on one leg at a time just like you do. And he probably does it sitting down. >:(
Maybe he's the Paris Hilton of web tech blogs? Famous for his videos and for being famous/followed.;) That's stretching it perhaps... :)
- Thomas Bøhm
from BuddyFeed
Just ask yourself, would you rather be Robert? If you do, I'm sure you could spend all your time getting attention on the Internet. Just apply yourself. It's such a noble endeavor, improving humanity and moving the human race forward technologically.
- Cristo
Without Scoble, Arrington, and other A-lister bloggers, it's unclear if we'd have the great advances in technology we have today. For example, would iPhone and Google exist? I'm not sure.
- Cristo
Holden, yes. I'm sure they provided valuable input into the design of all the important products in the valley. And without them, nobody would have bought those products. E.g. Robert was first in line at the Palo Alto iPhone intro, so he must have created the massive sales they experienced.
- Cristo
No, but Robert actually talked to Bill Atkinson.
- Cristo
Cristo: that is true that I talked with Atkinson, but the iPhone would have been popular anyway.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, don't be modest. Some of us know you invented the region code for the original Mac.
- Cristo
Cristo: no, but I did build some Apple IIs when I was in Jr. High.
- Robert Scoble
It's hard to be mean to Robert. He just keeps being social. :)
- Cristo
Cristo: I'm still wondering whether to put Monique on my Christmas Card list.
- Robert Scoble
You have a Christmas Card list? I've never done that. It seems like a lot of work. I've even stopped giving presents to family. I just give stuff to people when they need it. Maybe there should be a website to handle Christmas cards.
- Cristo
Man, I just like the guy because he seems like... a nice guy.
- Adrian
Cristo: I'm just kidding, I don't really have a list.
- Robert Scoble
I have a friend who sends out Christmas cards from his bird, and his bird bites every card as the signature.
- Cristo
Adrian: sssshhhh. Talk like that makes Monique mad!
- Robert Scoble
What was the reason for this post originally? I'm not on friendfeed as much these days.
- Cristo
Cristo: I don't know. I just saw it pop up on my screen, probably cause my brother commented on it. I assume Monique was tired of my following posts tonight and all the talk about being unfollowed.
- Robert Scoble
I care. I'm actually waiting to see if this is a viable solution.
- Mark Davidson
from BuddyFeed
Monique: Do you find it ironic that your rant about Robert, landed you with a huge thread about him in your feed.... or expected?
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Ironically Scoble has liked it. Then, Scoble, please follow all people who have commented in this thread too.
- Lakshman Prasad
I put both legs in first, then pull my pants up. It's quite efficient, thankyouverymuch.
- David Chartier
from iPhone
you know this just blows sunshine up Scoble ass? he is winning if you talk about him. never talk about someone you really don't want to interact with
- Noah David Simon
Lakshman: I already am following most everyone here.
- Robert Scoble
Cristo, give me some cash money and I'll send out Christmas cards for you. This is comedy, see, because I'm Jewish.
- Rochelle
I know for a fact that he doesn't put his pants on like me, as I don't wear pants.
- Will Higgins™
For the record, I don't have anything against Robert. I don't dislike him. Knowing that other people like him does not make me "mad". I just think people take every little thing he says and blow it up into something "epic" when it doesn't really need to be. So what if he is unfollowing people? Do we make a post about every person that unfollows someone? I also think it's dumb when...
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- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
I never said I did not want to interact with him. I notice all the FF trolls showed up in this thread to bash Robert. My post did not bash Robert, nor did it set out to, but I guess much like his unfollowing posts, people will jump on anything and try to turn it into a huge thing.
- DO ANYBODY NO MONIQUE
I like Robert Scoble too. but I agree with Monique that the stargazers are a bit much. I mostly ignore them. the sad part is I miss some of the meaningful comments when a FF thread reaches 60+. I also think it's funny that someone suggested Monique posted this to get attention. shows how some people (not Scoble) don't realize others exist and thrive on FF outside of tech.
- jbrotherlove
Monique, maybe if Scoble would stop attracting Drama to himself by not announcing who he unfollows and blocks, he would not have so many TROLL admirers! I guess Robert likes attention? ;-)
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
Maybe, Monique. But Robert's 'social' experiments and experiences are still interestings. That's all.
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
postmodern asskissing. self referencing and aware of the hypocrisy. it works for Saturday Night Live... I guess it works on friendfeed
- Noah David Simon
I'm with you monique and don't mind his rabid fan club. They're all the wannabe new media-whore types anyways.
- Nemo
Pretty soon there won't be any trolls left, and friendfeed will be about as interesting as watching paint dry.
- Cristo
What's annoying about Scoble is that if I'm not interested, I can unfollow (with no drama), but I still have to hear about him every freaking day. FriendFeed needs a "hide items that mention Robert Scoble" option :P
- Lo is a Quitter
It is sad but what put Friendfeed on the map is taking it off the map. Instead of us interacting, debating, and learning about each other, we have the Scoble club which follows his every command and "pithy" word, and the open-minded people who demand equality! Sounds like a Frieendfeed revolution is in the works! What you all think? Tea party time? Remove the Blocks!!!
- Igor The Troll יִצְחָק
You are my new heroine. I really enjoy Scoble's work/insight, but must admit the fanboys / manlove I see on his FF stream is a bit out of hand.....I'd write more, but I'm glued to the latest video on Building 43... ;O)
- Harold Cabezas
No need to talk you out of it - if that's what you think is the right thing for you then go for it. It didn't hurt you last time you cleared things out.
- WorldofHiglet
I love it...its like twitter/friendfeed bankruptcy.
- sean andersen
Are you going to stop using @notsecretscoble, then?
- Kathy Fitch
Finally turning down the firehose eh? Even with those big a$$ monitors you've got, keeping up with that amount of noise is maddening at times. Are you going to use Jesse's site (http://socialtoo.com/) to nix all your followers?
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Richard: I just wanted to see if anyone could come up with a good reason not to do that.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Haven't you always maintained that it's WHO YOU FOLLOW, not who follows you that matters? Exactly what you are doing by re-tuning the firehose. Will be curious to see if you get bored with a much slower moving river streaming by.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
What are you going to use to watch the patterns in the noise with? An Anon Account?
- BairdWilliamson
This is gonna create a new era on Twitter, “if Scoble thinks quantity does not matter let's unfollow everyone too” ;)
- Jacque
from fftogo
Brian: yes but I got distracted by the DM feature which only works if I am following you.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Yup. DM on Twitter is useless. DM here on the other hand.... Are you going to do the same thing with the 25k you follow here on FF?
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
Baird: I will still be following 25,000 here. There is plenty of noise in my life.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Brian: here on FF we have groups. I already have a few small groups.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
Exactly. Groups and lists make it a LOT easier to manage the noise.
- Brian Daniel Eisenberg
noop. twitter is just a (narrow) pipe. friendfeed where (my) content aggregates.
- jacek
I say do it, and I say that as someone you will no longer be following. Thousands upon thousands of people only provide background noise. By the time something bubbles up enough to be noticeable in the feed of that many people, its on techmeme anyway.
- DGentry
You can unfollow me on Twitter. I don't even feed to it from Friendfeed anymore. :)
- CAJ, somewhere else
Feels sort of sad to be getting unfollowed by one of my favorite peeps! :-( But yeah, totally understand
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
Robert: Are you actually going to do it tonight - or is this just a topic for debate?
- Jim Connolly
Do it. Following merely to allow a DM that may very well never come is not worth it.
- Meryn Stol
A man's got to do what a man's got to do. DM Whacker (discovered it today myself), deletes all received and sent DM's..
- Citronella
do it. I unfollowed 500+ and I can actually use Twitter again....
- Johnny
from BuddyFeed
I have dropped about 200 people today. I like your idea and I agree it might be lead to a movement of quality over quantity. I also think it might wake up the Twitter execs to see that groups and better list management are need.
- Ben Hanten
I am curious, though: I remember about a month ago you said that you follow a ton of people and it was invaluable because you could see trends, etc. What has changed?
- Ben Hanten
How does one mass unfollow? - I was trying to find ways to do that and can't find a way to do that easily.
- Jannifer @wordsforliving
robert i have some scripts to delete all DMs, but they appear to be broken now. the new way twitter handles pagination (the more button) makes it difficult
- sean percival
Jennifer: There are a few well known tools you can use to mass-unfollow. One that Jesse Stay @socialtoo developed is supposed to be very good.
- Jim Connolly
where is jesse? i see a future for socialtoo here. create an akismet like system as part of the auto follow. as i get new followers, give them a spam score and only follow back those who pass
- sean percival
Liza: I don't know what Blackberry users can do for FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
from iPhone
your autofollow didn't work on me for some reason, so it doesn't matter to me. in fact, yea unfollow everyone =]
- Özgür D. Cyric
I don't even know what twitter is for anymore. I check it sometimes but enjoy reading and sometimes joining the conversation on here much more.
- Aidan Mann
Hey, I don't need Scoble to follow me on Twitter. I've got Kim Kardashian following me on FriendFeed! ;)
- John Craft
I've observed 2 good people go through mass unfollow on Twitter, and they were both happy they did it. Do what works for you, Robert. It's your time. :)
- Veronica Sopher
My only argument is as a news junkie, you'll feel like you're missing something. In reality, you'll eliminate a lot of noise though and miss only "some" things.
- manielse (Mark Nielsen)
I'm changing my Twitter avatar to a screenshot of my DM box in protest of auto-dms. Hoping others will too.
- Jesse Stay
Sean, SocialToo does offer that - it needs to be improved, and will be. I'm just trying to get time to do it (on a very limited budget).
- Jesse Stay
I say go for it. Change is good. Having two accounts would make one schizo. The times they are a changin' Like @loic said it will fill like taking a shower
- Stephen Pickering
Either you know how to use the API, or it's going to take you a very long time...
- David Semeria
Knock yourself out. I don't pay much attention to Twitter anyway.
- Jason Huebel
Great idea! But it sounds like a lot of work. Besides, they're your accounts and it's your name/brand that you're experimenting with. Do whatever you want with it. How are you going to get people to watch a live feed you're doing. Are you shooting for a smaller audience too?
- Michael Fidler
Why not? It's your Twitter account Robert and you don't have to follow everyone who follows you. My Twitter experience improved dramatically when I unfollowed a lot or people and only followed those I like interacting with (mostly from FF or friends IRL) or have a common interest business-wise. Following under 2K made the interaction easier and more interesting.
- Sally Church
My only suggestion is to encourage you that after you dump everyone considering following a few of us that haven't had a chance to meet you in person. (yet)
- Keith - @tsudo
i've been meaning to do the same...good suggestion scoble
- Kevin Pruett
great way to start afresh, weed out all the spam from the post oprah-aston effect, now you will only have engaged followers, hopefully most that are also friendfeed loyalists
- Tate DA FF MVP
No need to talk you out of it. It's a smart move.
- Andru Edwards
from iPhone
Robert since friendfeed is a place 2 follow 1 another, there might not be a need 2 follow on Twitter unless u meet the person via face 2 face. In which I would love 2 @ some pt when we do cross path some pt.
- polou/indigo_bow
I wonder if you could organize a time when a bunch of us do this together to make a stand against the lack of user-friendly tools on Twitter. The fact that there are no groups or lists is ridiculous. This could make a big difference. What if there were a million unfollows? Would that get their attention?
- Ben Hanten
Personally, I look at search results and @ replies mostly, once in a while I'll scroll through my follow stream. Of course, thanks to @RackerHacker, I have several searches running via a ruby Twitter search bot that alerts me to interesting items via Jabber and email. Following is no longer a priority for me.
- Robert J Taylor
from iPhone
Whatever gets you through the night, Robert! :-)
- Lon Cohen
Why do you need to unfollow to ignore? You do that well already :-)
- RetiredTeacherD
You are doing the right activity to move the Twitter founders ,most of us are using Twitter long time but we never made anything against the SPAM or the porn users that are following by robots and posting so many links to porn sites ,it is so simple to block this activity but no one cares ,Twitter should learn much from Myspace links policy ,we can open new #tag#noporn and post there all the PORN tweets
- Johni Fisher
Don't want too unfollow you here Robert, that would be your choice.
- Mac Sharp
I believe the issue is more time and the medium you use everydsy, obviously the iphone. If you had three high powered connected desktops with dual monitors and could spend your time just with twitter, friendfeed, etc. it would not be so much of an issue. The truth is time for you to treat people as you would like to. I believe you are being realistic in your time management. I do not believe it is a lie for others to be able to deal with more than 2000 followers or subscribers.
- RetiredTeacherD
Great news! Caught up with this late, but a welcome addition to the stop auto follow movement. Just putting up a post on my http://stopautofollow.com site
- imrat
So far I've lost about 240, after unfollowing 20,000+
- Robert Scoble
Holden: I bet, I expect I'll lose about 5,000.
- Robert Scoble
Holden: About 60% of my followers on Twitter are spammers and bots or people who never do anything even if they are human, so it won't depress me.
- Robert Scoble
Yeah, I think if anything the quality of your followers will go up from this.
- Jesse Stay
I cant understand why Twitter dont mind and do nothing about it
- Johni Fisher
"Jesse, what's left?" —Robert, "Just the batteries. I can give you inpulse power in a couple minutes." —Jesse, "We don't have a couple minutes." —Robert
- Micah Wittman
He really does put your systems into real stress test. Doesnt he? ;)
- Lakshman Prasad
I am seriously thinking of doing exactly what Scoble did... greate idea!
- Susan Beebe
It might be a good idea to spring clean his list, but i don't understand why he blows such a big trumpet all day long. It's one thing to inform people about his actions, it's totally another to squeeze every drop of attention out of this. And the fact that its been discussed for the past so many hours, doesn't say a lot about us all.
- Siddharth Mitra
from twhirl
and then I will comment on whoever follows me here...
- Alpay Erturkmen
Louis, I recently got the "high five" DM spam, too. So off-putting!
- Robert J Taylor
from iPhone
I just need to spend more time setting up FF so it is my friend that intercepts all my social media content but only from who I want to read!
- Pentaxfan
Friend feed seems like mainstream to most serious ones?
- jibzy
Friendfeed has it's strengths once you get it setup
- Chris
@robert whether or not FF is technically better than <insertsocialnetwork> its really a question of said network reach
- Sean Scott
Once a week I go through my followers and delete most/all of the spammers, but I only have like 50-60 so it's not hard to do.
- Allison Warnock
Let's hope the spammers and bots and etc don't attack us here on FriendFeed next. I won't tell them if you don't.
- Louis Trapani
from iPhone
Sean: well, FF has better search, grouping, real time, a better community, and more.
- Robert Scoble
I think you're already following me.
- Danny Minick
In two years on Twitter I have never used any bots nor even tried to sell anything. I always look at profiles personally before following anyone and have never been concerned with how many are following me.
- Gord Young
See, cross posting that offer to Twitter is misleading
- Kevin Krewell
It is fun to watch my follower ## on Twitter go between 200 and 230 it is a constant battle to see what I post. Just not that interesting at times!
- Pentaxfan
Interesting project! Please follow us @streamfile :)
- Kimmo Gläborg
Checking in here...hope we continue to follow each other, Robert!
- Cathryn Hrudicka
I'm pretty sure I've commented here before Robert, but you don't follow me here or on Twitter. Not that I want you to under just for the sake of it...
- Gurpreet
Today's secret password is "cheese".
- Andrew Smith
And you don't have to read everything we say, my God we can't keep up with your feed! But it's nice to always be assured there will be something in my Friendfeed from Scoble. And more Scoble and more Scoble!
- Keith Rowland
...only if you actually find my tweets interesting enough.
- Gurpreet
It's Unfollow Sunday. Just purged all the bots, spammers, SEO/social media types from my own Twitter account. I never autofollow. Still got the "high five" DM spam, though...
- Dennis Jernberg
Nice when you integrate Facebook and twitter and multiple accounts so you can read all at one place. I have to say I use Seesmic to read posts more than FF.
- Pentaxfan
bit bucket... here i come :) ps: scoble, what if we just "like" your post ;)
- simran
@pentaxfan of course. not wanting to start a FF vs Twitter debate. just saying the glasses through which we judge better or superior are diff based on our interests. Plus in the end FB will take it all :P
- Sean Scott
This is a sly way to get us to sign up for FF :)
- valb00
According to my following list, Scoble was the second person I followed after joining Twitter. A long time ago that was.
- Stephen Sclafani
UX tip for FF. Be nice to be able to click on the comment link at the end of a comment stream. Having to scroll back up on these long threads breaks flow.
- Sean Scott
Kimber: wait and watch http://friendfeed.com/scoblei... and see if I like any of your posts. I read a LOT and if you are posting interesting stuff I'll probably like it.
- Robert Scoble
Sean: click twice on the time stamp and you'll get a window of just this chat and you'll see a comment entry area at the bottom.
- Robert Scoble
Sean Scott: Click on the timeline (the '5 minutes ago' bit) :)
- 1x29
You will end up following me anyway. They all will. :)
- Matt G
But you're already following me here on Friendfeed, Robert. How is Twitter going to be different?
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
FriendFeed is better, deeper, yet Twitter works better on the go
- Majento
There's a lot to like about FF, except it needs a bigger community. Twitter is like the iPhone - for iPhone it's all the applications, with Twitter (and Facebook) it's all about the number of poeple.
- Kevin Krewell
@Sean, that is why we are always looking for new and improved apps to operate at a better level with more consistency. Take it easy! I'm off to bed for my 5 hours of mediocre horizontal time out.
- Pentaxfan
Hi Robert, you are obviously going to be following a lot more people. Thanks.
- Rob Zachritz
And I return. (Just cleared my account so I can start afresh with friend lists) :)
- BeauGiles
Robert, you have lost a lot of followers. I have been watching all night.
- TheHenry
I don't get the appeal of auto-following. I for one would not want thousands of updates showing up in my timeline.
- Alex Knight
Twitter -ly ♪ and FriendFeed -ly ♪ livin' in perfect har-mony ♪♪♪ LOL Why can't we be friends ♪♪♪
- RetiredTeacherD
Just created a corporate FF account so you can follow our corporate Twitter at http:/www.twitter.com/senderok - Plug-in with anti-phishing icons for the inbox and photo business cards in the header pane
- SenderOK
I'm here I'm here! :D just curious, what do you have against SEO and Social Media experts?
- Celia
Really? BTW I'm just a regular geeky gal.
- Teresa O
TheHenry: and I will lose even more this week. No biggie. I don't define myself by who follows me, especially if they are there just to get a follow back.
- Robert Scoble
We're already facebook friends. And I think friendfeed friends too. But FF just hasn't hit critical mass yet. It'll be cool when it does. Nice job throwing another rock at the hornet's nest! :-)
- Dan Becker
Rory: the catch is I might like one of your posts and then you'll have to deal with my other friends. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I'm glad to know that you are still interested in hearing from us :), I'm @tsudo
- Keith - @tsudo
Robin: I have only seen a handful of spams here. They are easily blocked and there are other defenses against them that I won't talk about here.
- Robert Scoble
Are we not allowed to comment if you are already following us?
- RobinDotNet
Are all those SEO types you're unfollowing now following me?!
- Dennis Jernberg
Thing I don't like is that FF doesn't have a very good topic when the primary line is directed at twitter. There may or may not be a link to something after FF part. Which means FF becomes a bit of a treasure hunt. I like FF for commentary but I hate the initial post.
- Justin Howard
Robert: Thanks mate, interesting and probably efficient idea. I'll do the same for quality content, tired of those "I just used whateveryoucallit.com to gain 300 new followers right now!".
- Nir Ben Yona
whateveryoucallit.com domain name is already taken :-]
- Stephane Tsacas
Hi Robert, I had to do the exact same thing to nail all the twit spam I was getting. Hope you get it all sorted!
- James Brown
Even as we sit here, my iPhone dings with new follow e-mails from spam/marketing people. Sigh.
- RobinDotNet
Stephane: LOL, probably. I took this line from Chris Brogan's "Twitter Etiquette Guide".
- Nir Ben Yona
The joys of not being internet famous means I can check out followers personally, block where required and I've only ever got about 2 DM spam. But with the volumes that Robert gets, it's obviously not possible.
- Rachel Clarke
TwitterEtiquetteGuide.com is available ;-)
- Stephane Tsacas
I think Twitter needs something like captcha to keep the bots to a minimum, IMHO.
- Dennis Jernberg
Robert -- yes, on twitter. It seems the more you tweet, and the more people you communicate with, the more spammers follow you. Hoping for auto-follows I guess (I disappoint them in that regard.)
- RobinDotNet
No offense, but what is the utility of being "followed" by someone who already follows tens of thousands?
- Derek Pangallo
Good way to filter, you know the spammers don't actually read anything or participate
- Justin Luey
What is the utility of being "followed" by someone who doesn't tweet and who follows thousands? What do they do, sit at their terminal and watch the tweets go by all day long?
- RobinDotNet
hi Robert u r already following me how r u?
- Gaith
First day on Friend Feed and Robert Scoble is available. What a welcome.... Carey@holisticdds
- Carey O'Rielly
What will you do when the spammers/SEOs infest Friendfeed, as they will, or do you believe this is better crowdsourced and will be able to hold against the hordes?
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Rachel -- But numbers alone don't mean anything. Are they that shallow? That must be a stupid question.
- RobinDotNet
Is this going to be the 'most-commented-ever' post on Friendfeed? 240+ already!
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Aaman: FriendFeed is FAR more defendable against spam than Twitter is.
- Robert Scoble
and how would this benefit people who follow Robert Scoble?
- Seyfi Erol
That seems like a good idea, but I think you're already following a lot of these people
- Carlton Prest
Seyfi: why don't you follow me and see how it goes?
- Robert Scoble
I've gotten 4 follow e-mails since my first post here from people I don't want to follow. Do the bots start running right around midnight?
- RobinDotNet
Mahendra, you're not following the threads in Russian (that's my only hint) :D
- Micah Wittman
Robin: oh yes. But I'm never sure what's worse. the people who just want to talk about the numbers or the people they may be able to impress.
- Rachel Clarke
Aaman - Friendfeed doesn't make link-tracking easy, so it's less interesting for spammers to infest.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Is this a test of interaction or more likely a sort of audience verification?
- Gilgamesh
Gilgamesh: it is what you want it to be. For me I followed you.
- Robert Scoble
If twitter is noise, and FriendFeed is conversation, Robert Scoble followers are their own discussion. It's like using an entirely different website.
- Carlton Prest
Rachel, that's a good point. Is Facebook the same way? I joined that and suddenly got all these people I've nothing in common with who want to be my friend. Creepy.
- RobinDotNet
Scoble: you convinced me! (thought you just needed self-validation, sorry)
- Derek Pangallo
Derek: heh, yeah, I am watching this, among other things running across my screen.
- Robert Scoble
Robin: Facebook is the same but I think to a lesser extent - it's harder to find people I think. But still got a load of friend requests that I ignore as I don't know them
- Rachel Clarke
Robin: you mean like people you went to high school with and didnt' like adding you on FB
- Derek Pangallo
I already do. what i mean is if we don't keep FF, Twitter limited to our interests, wouldn't it be garbage we already try hard to get rid of. Or how far can we extend our interests in life or amount of information we consume?
- Seyfi Erol
Derek -- I mean people I really have NO connection with at all. I've only friended a couple of people I work with, and 2 other real friends. I'm getting friend requests from people I don't know at all.
- RobinDotNet
Seyfi: you haven't discovered FriendFeed's groups and lists yet, have you?
- Robert Scoble
I got a Russian-speaking follower on Twitter. I didn't follow him because I don't understand a word he tweets.
- Dennis Jernberg
Did you know that Facebook has started selling parts of itself to the Russians? At end of May, they sold 1.96% stake of Facebook to Russia's Digital Sky Technologies for $200M.
- RobinDotNet
Robert: I shouldn't have underestimated you. You probably have started much longer comment threads on Friendfeed before.
- Mahendra (SkepticGeek)
Mahendra, Robert, I agree, FF has been very good at keeping out junk
- Aaman (Clone of FF)
Mahendra: I have. I gave away $5,000 once and got more than 1,000 comments on that. But that cost me a lot of cash. Can't afford to do that again.
- Robert Scoble
DST is run by Alisher Usmanov who is closely tied with Putin. You feel ok to that, but re-read the company's user agreement where it says it can share all of your info with third parties. Of course, it's irrelevant to this thread, but I thought it was interesting.
- RobinDotNet
FF is interesting assuming the topic is FF... and/or Scoble's next devilishly clever stunt to generate FF comments
- John Hardy
John: there are lots of interesting topics here on FriendFeed. Did you know you could search by them based on number of likes? Click "Advanced Search" and try.
- Robert Scoble
Very bold, I like it, are you going to keep the people you follow under 2000?
- Joe Dawson
from iPhone
Tell me the newest best way to use FriendFeed!
- Shoichi
I notice that one of the prolific thought-leadering traffic drivers I follow on twitter basically tweets everything he reads, before he reads it. This has lead to spam a few times. disappointing.
- Derek Pangallo
Yo Robert: a man has to do what a man has to do, so one surfer to another: go for it!
- Geer
Here here! A good cleansing is good, now and then... Starting fresh is the way to go, get all of that nonsense out and maintain a core group of people for solid conversation!
- Brian Partridge
Great taking the tour w/ you, Levar Burton & @VegasBill during CES 09 at the Atomic Testing Museum. I would appreciate the follow back. Thanks Robert!
- Chris R
Thanks for following back on Twitter Robert. Cheers from Las Vegas!
- Vegas Bill
I'm pretty sure we're friends here, only just wish there was a easy way to check... and if there is, that some one will let me know....
- Grant Bierman
Just out of curiousity, why are there fewer spammers and bots on FF compared with Twiitter? Is it because they haven't discovered FF yet?
- Sally Church
from iPhone
there are occasionally spammers on FF but I think they mostly get handled quickly vs Twitter where more than occasionally clusters of spammers just follow each other...
- Shannon Clark
What if your already following me? Do I still need to comment here?
- CW™
Sally: I don't explain spam defenses in public. I don't want spammers to figure them out. But there are quite a few defenses against spam here.
- Robert Scoble
I was surprised about the spammer comments, until I started getting female nude model followers and I'm a women. Maybe a nude male model but not Sparkle or Hootie McBoob
- Corrine Pearce
Corrine: hope you don't see that here on FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Why are you doing this? You have one of the best listening audiences on twitter! Is there a point to prove that we will post here or go to wefollow?
- David Cole
David: and I can prove that. Twitter's audience has become less and less engaged lately.
- Robert Scoble
Wow, powerful shift by Robert Scoble, I'm really interested in seeing how this works for you Scoble. I slept through all the big news here tonight.
- Jimminy
Interesting experiment. This is probably one the most commented feedfriend threads in history!
- Menno te Koppele
Plus, David, if you all are listening, you are listening because of my ability to find cool stuff. Mostly that's been because of FriendFeed over the past 18 months. Now I've seen how ascerbic Twitter's spammers have gotten on my accounts.
- Robert Scoble
Interesting. This is going to boost 1000 egos for sure :-)
- Freddie Benjamin
So will it be a matter of just trying to say ahead of the spammers by jumping from one early adopted social network to another?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
JP: no. I am not leaving Twitter. I AM, however, deleting all their accounts so I will no longer be passing them juice.
- Robert Scoble
I wonder how will your FF homepage look like after this.
- ahmet bulent
Does this make you anti-social media?
- Cory Brown
To follow commenters from here on Twitter will be a lot of work for you Robert. Or do you have some magic tool that helps?
- Tibor Holoda
Robert, how many of the 100k do you think you'll still be following when you are done?
- RobinDotNet
~~~> Robert!! Follow me back again. [a] I'm a real fan of the @Scobleizer... and [b] I'm much nicer than some of these sassy bloofers. ;)
- Kim Sherrell
So what if you have all 58k + comment on here? And you have to keep everyone! And your plan is foiled, sir. Okay give or take 10k for the neglected abandoned twitters and the spammers. Btw, you're already following me on both twitter and here. But come on, you're not really. : /
- Lise
That's cool. I am finding the spammers too much to manage these days myself.
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Because I can't keep myself from doing math, that's 1.1%.
- RobinDotNet
Lise: I see you a few times a day, but you're right. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Are you trying to make a point about FF v Twitter? I have spammy things to say about my amateur photography, potential homelessness, and run-ins with public-run health system in the US. Isn't all Twitter spam--just spam you want? :)
- Dean Hall
the auto-refresh on this thread is mind-blowing, fun to watch
- nchenga
Do you ever worry about SM burnout Robert? How do you pace your self?
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
Interesting to note many of most commented threads are in languages other than English. Can we suggest FF has a better international appeal than Twitter?
- Kaan Bingol
Good idea, as you say, stop juicing up the spammers - it'll be interesting to see the stats once you've finished.
- Andrew Piggott
Dean: your Tweets aren't spam. I might keep you. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
I only followed people who were interesting to me, otherwise it is like trying to find a needle in a haystack of brain dumps.
- Daniel Durrans
Exactly. So I expect to be cut. And considering I'm in a crowd of close to 60k, it'll be the same thing.
- Lise
There should be a counter in front of the comments...
- Willem Karssenberg
Lise: and because FriendFeed's search engine is better here too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, yeah I know. Thought you might have meant for your secretscoble twitter account ;)
- Travis Koger
It's kind of like a giant SM break up Robert. *Oh the hearts you are breaking...*
- JP Holecka - Jaypiddy
I'm fairly selective about who I follow and I follow so maybe you will follow me back!
- Richard Cunningham
from iPod
Robert, care to explain how you use groups in this kind of context? Because I don't get the point of following people who are then placed into a "I don't read this much" kind of group. How do you use groups so that you're (1) not overwhealmed, and (2) actually read what people are saying?
- Ian Betteridge
How many people do you expect to end up with, Robert? What is a reasonable number?
- Lise
You don't have to follow me on Twitter. I think the FriendFeed party palace is mighty fine.
- Josette Torres
from fftogo
(Not that I'll probably see your response, btw - something at the bottom of 350+ responses is effectively buried until FF has better threading tools. Which I'm sure it will, some day.)
- Ian Betteridge
@Daniel - ditto, and for me it is generally development related also. Robert - I know you have to try and keep up with everything going on in the social media space, but I'm always surprised when people follow so many others as it must be extremely difficult to find the wheat in amongst all the chaff.
- Donald Matheson
Robert: I did not know about that search trick. Thanks!
- Menno te Koppele
Ian: a "I don't read this much" kind of group is awesome for serrendipity. Also, anyone who I find there who is high value gets quickly moved to a smaller group.
- Robert Scoble
What? Are you saying you're not following me already...? ;-)
- Jarno Peschier
Lise: on Twitter? Less than 2,000. I can't follow more.
- Robert Scoble
Jamo: I am already following you. Scott: why not? I am already following you too.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, it might be a problem for me re-gaining your following as my tweets are not 100% English only (whether that means trying to speak English or no English at all ;). How do you deal with occasional non-English tweeters? As that's clearly a noise for you.
- Tibor Holoda
if only twitter were as engaging as FriendFeed has become, and as instantaneous as things like this comment thread, then maybe I would use it more. Hence why I'm all for unfollowing who you conceive as uninteresting; and if that includes me, then so be it!
- Nick Soden
Tibor: I just skip over most of them. Sometimes I translate them to see if I was right.
- Robert Scoble
It is my hope that I provide you with something as interesting as what you provide me with. Either way, I will continue to peruse your posts with interest.
- James (!?)
Hi, I'm still newish to this social media thang - but good on you for taking a stand.
- Jus
Do you prefer night owls? Because what about all the poor people in SV who went to bed at a decent hour and missed your post? Bummer for them, huh?
- RobinDotNet
I'm back from picking my wife up at the airport and ran across this on my way back to sleep.
- nuBound CEO - Mark
The wild and woolly blogosphere is replete with all sorts of good stuff. Hard to follow 500 people, let alone 1000. I applaud you for trying to take the reins.
- Jack B
It funny you put spammers, SEO experts, bots, social media experts all in one bucket. What are you implying? Btw, I'm none of these...
- Peter Chee
.. and it works!! Just got a mail saying Robert is following me now... :)
- Sudar
Peter: I did that to piss off the SEO experts. :-)
- Robert Scoble
This makes me realise that posting from Twitter as opposed to "to twitter from FF" allows the Twitter stream to grow on the back of FF comments ! otherwise not : as in my case - what do you think Robert ? FF to Twitter ? Or FF aggregating all your tweets ?
- Nicholas Paul Gordon
from iPhone
Nicholas: shhhh, you are discovering my secrets! I'm doing more and more from FriendFeed lately.
- Robert Scoble
I comment and you follow me. Its totally worth it
- Arvind
Arvind: even better I was following you before. Mobilepax: no. I really don't care about followers. Inbound is more important than who is listening to you.
- Robert Scoble
and does that mean I have to write in English from now on :)
- Mobilepax
Nice one - it's cool that you give friendfeed (and all the commenters of course ;-) much kudos.
- Alex Vermeule (@alexve)
If you just follow everyone in this thread, won't you just wind up with noise from 'engaged' people. I mean, does this solve the problem?
- Missionary Broadcasting
Good thing its 4am and my car alarm went off, otherwise you wouldnt follow me! I had to look up a video online how to break the key fob apart becuase aparently its battery leaked and was self activating the panic switch. Damn VWs! a replacement key is only like 150 bucks!!
- Charlieray
Missionary: no. You have not discovered that FriendFeed has groups and MUCH BETTER search.
- Robert Scoble
Its funny that if you say "SEO" on twitter its an instant 10 followers
- Charlieray
I'd rather follow you on Friendfeed, Robert. Your tweets get cross posted here anyway, and there's a much greater sense of engagement in that conversation than there is over at Twitter.
- Andrew Terry
Everyone that "follows" you really does know you love FF. So did you build a tool to follow everyone back that comments on here or are you seriously going to manually follow people back?
- Peter Chee
Theres 451+ comment here, do you really follow *everyone*?
- Fajar Nurdiansyah
Because I am up at 1:20 a.m. PT, why not... I must be your target audience then.
- Georgiana Comsa
It must show you how many people enjoy engaging with you Robert, with the number of people posting here.
- Steve Farnworth
Amazing to see the comment thread to this entry expand constantly in real time.
- Christian Bolstad
Peter: I've manually followed everyone on this thread so far.
- Robert Scoble
Peter: although to be fair I've already followed quite a few people who have commented here.
- Robert Scoble
Hi, you are already following me. My solution to get rid of spammers on Twitter is to block them, that is what I do. If everyone started blocking them, I think things would improve
- Asgeir
What about the SEO experts who accidentally find this feed?
- phil baumann
Robert, but you're following commenters here, not on Twitter, right? Not that i care about Twitter that much, as for me it's just a pipeline. FF and FB are conversational platforms for me, or the places i hang out these days.
- Tibor Holoda
Aaman: Sleep? some of us are just starting the day. We're waiting for the US to go to sleep so we can talk about you ;-)
- Rachel Clarke
Spammers being blocked doesnt do anything as they are hoping for that 1 in 100 hit of someone clicking that link, eventually they get banned and create a new account.
- Charlieray
the term SEO expert is a crock of shit
- Charlieray
Marko: not true. It's better because it has very little spam. It's better because it has a better search engine. It's better because it has comments and likes. It's better because it's an aggregator. And more.
- Robert Scoble
you don't have to follow back. but i'll take the chance to say great work with building 43.
- Alexandre Gamela
from twhirl
Massimo: right up top. Heheh. Alexandre: thank you!
- Robert Scoble
After 6 months out of the social media loop I came back to a whole bunch of follows that I either couldn't remember who they were or why I had followed them - how can that be relevent? So, I culled my follows back to less than 200. I'm now just looking to find the signal amongst the noise.
- Colin Walker
What about FriendFeed? Is there any @notsecretscoble too?
- Ludwik C. Siadlak
Friendfeeding for Scoble to follow me while on vacation in Montauk. There is something wrong with me.
- Mitchell Schneider
Mitchell -- you just don't want to miss the fun.
- RobinDotNet
robkeynes -- nice to see you up and about
- RobinDotNet
Ludwik: no, because here I can just start a new list of users.
- Robert Scoble
Well, this has been fun to watch, but it's almost 2 a.m. and I have to be very smart tomorrow morning, which is easier when I'm not too tired, so everyone have a great [whatever comes next in your time zone].
- RobinDotNet
Robert, I'm trying to understand this follow/unfollow strategy you are applying as Napoleon Bonaparte on a battle field ;) Interested to know the result
- Thierry R. Andriamirado
pushing this thing to its limits just to see what happens? interesting.
- livefast
I really do think the way Twitter has changed in the last few months, with all the media attention, certainly begs for it to be used differently now.
- Nicola Quinn
Wow that's a whole lot of people commenting in the last 2 hours, Rob - How many of the new people you are following from this list are NEW to friendfeed? (estimate?)
- Roy Herrod
Does this constitute a comment or are you looking for some insightful commentary on the state of new media? ;)
- Iwan
40%? This must have turned out to be one of the biggest promotions in FF history, even if it wasn't intended that way. BTW, I'm new to FF too.
- Dennis Jernberg
guess it's good to clean up the list once in a while.
- shadow
Ha ha, nice.... So any major ramifications from the mass unfollow?
- Alistair (alpinefolk)
Alistair: other than losing about 1,000 followers so far? No major ramifications.
- Robert Scoble
Robert, I'm coming out with a project in the Continuing Medical Education field in the next weeks so if you are interested, I wouldn't mind if you will follow me :-)
- Marco Fabbri
Won't tell anybody, specially Seo people, ssshhhh.....
- Giorgio Burlini
from iPhone
You had me at don't tell the spammers...
- Sean Kelly
I think it's a hoot. Now I'm wondering whether to reverse my recent move towards following more, not less. I do believe that from my experience so far FF is more attuned to building/maintaining community than is Twitter.
- Des Walsh
Des: on FriendFeed you can do both strategies at the same time. You can follow a lot more in one list while following even fewer in another.
- Robert Scoble
Des - Once more people re-engage in the conversation here, they'll realize the continuing outright potential of Friendfeed. I still some here before I read my e-mail
- Charlie Anzman
Hi Mr Scoble, I'm with you (but on a smaller scale) I unfollowed about 150 users on Friday, felt good! I pretty much hang out in FF now at my home page and my groups
- Lee
from iPod
wow...just wow :) Robert, you have many fans !!
- Hayk H.
Good luck on hiding from the bots, they have ways of finding people.... :)
- Chris Holm
well, who am I to refuse such a nice offer? here I am!!!
- niccolò vecchia
Good to hear! I have only ~2000 followers, but I can't follow more at the moment due to Twitter's follow limit rule.
- Martin Lindeskog
Great way to test the chemistry between FF and Twitter. I like it.
- E-Advocate Network
Robert - I'am definitely not a spammer when it comes to broadcasting anything to people, who doesn't want to hear it :) but I do sometimes respond (mostly on twitter so @reply) to some tweets not aimed on me, but that's what everybody actually asks for when publicly broadcasting anything.
- Dušan Šimonovič
Shhh...don't tell anyone but I'm neither of those (the spammers, SEO experts, the bots, or the social media experts,) though, I like the heck out of the concept of this thread...
- Vincent Wright
Good idea about the unfollow. It was an interesting experiment whilst it lasted but given your lifestyle I'm sure most Twitter messages just passed you by. I never DM'd you however, it was nice to think that I had the option if I wanted to. Anyway I've been on FF for ages now, and what I need is a good FF app (for pc), any ideas anyone?
- Nick Bristow
Nick: I just use a browser with FriendFeed.
- Robert Scoble
Only 530 comments so far? Come on people you are not even trying.
- John Cooper
@Rob Sellen, did you see the comments on the most recent ffundercats podcast entry. http://friendfeed.com/ffunder... Over 1000 in a very short period of time. Although I expect that this post will also get up to those levels.
- Travis Koger
NOTICE: I am closing comments here because I gotta get some sleep. I'll consider doing this again sometime. Sorry if you didn't get in, but see you tomorrow night.
- Robert Scoble
Can I suggest Tweetadder to help in the unfollow process. It's what I used to go from following 25,000 to following 300 people. It automates the unfollow process.
- Roger @ CineVegas
I just had a very odd image pop into my head just now after reading that tweet. You were walking through vineyard, plucking various twitter users from a twitter-tree.
- Jon, the Beartato of FF
Roger: thanks, but I'm already using SocialToo which is in the process of unfollowing everyone.
- Robert Scoble
I remember, when loic did that. what about your ff-lists, robert? any changes?
- esther ♥ ♫
super cool. though, I'm wondering since I'm soon joining OII, Oxford, are there any folks from Oxford? (sorry Robert for this - but this should be good purpose of networking people among geeks)
- Danica Radovanovic